>male led shows >inventive settings with a variety of genres, views, character ages >female led shows >adulting is so hard, abortions veganas misogyny ugh, set in the big city/suburb, 3/4ths of the cast are some sort of brown, also all mid 20s cast because that's all the writer can imagine
>Old cartoons >Fantastical settings with grounded, relatable characters >New cartoons >Realistic settings, with purely fictitious characters formulated for talking points
Sometimes I wonder if it's because newer generations have progressively insular social circles, and have fewer real life interactions with people in the real world.
It’s more that the entertainment industry has spent the last decade butchering its other forms of income and now solely rely on investments from companies like black rock that push shit like this. The sad part is I doubt there are ANY writers left that don’t whole heartedly believe in this corporate drivel the write in the deluded thought that it’s “progressive”
>male led shows >inventive settings with a variety of genres, views, character ages >gets cancelled before the first season even ends because guys are off playing video games instead of watching it >female led shows >adulting is so hard, abortions veganas misogyny ugh, set in the big city/suburb, 3/4ths of the cast are some sort of brown, also all mid 20s cast because that's all the writer can imagine >gets great ratings (because women actually watch TV) and runs for 6 seasons and wins multiple emmys
fixed.
>male led shows >inventive settings with a variety of genres, views, character ages >never gets greenlit because it doesn't pass focus group testing >female led shows >adulting is so hard, abortions veganas misogyny ugh, set in the big city/suburb, 3/4ths of the cast are some sort of brown, also all mid 20s cast because that's all the writer can imagine >runs for 6 seasons and wins multiple emmys (the producers and voice actors are all blood-related to each other and the award academy execs) despite having abysmal ratings and costing the network millions
Fixed.
They didn't renew it because
1. The ratings were god awful, even when they premiered new episodes after Rick and Morty
2. Tiffany Haddish got cancelled for pedo shit
3. Hannawalt is a genuinely unhinged femcel
Don't care for the tone and subject matter. I have nothing against it, it's largely par for the course. There's just nothing creative or truly subversive and rebellious enough to make this worth sitting through. The kind of shock this offers simply has no value in this day and age. The only thing that could surprise me anymore is if they made something unironically wholesome.
The one thing that might have given it some legs is a good artstyle, but the few more polished frames seem dull. It sits somewhere between Birdgirl and Family Guy. It reminds me of Praise Petey, and I hope to god this is not the next prevailing style trend for adult cartoons.
cool, I can't wait for this board to get plagued with porn of the characters until it gets shoved to /aco/ where it'll inevitably be forgotten
unrelated; but whatever happened to that crowdfunded show about the disabled girls?
>hey guys our network is dying I know how to save us! >lets make shows that the majority of the viewers can’t relate or find it boring and awful! >make interesting and funny shows? no thanks xir its all about down to earth WACKY shows about women
That's what frat guys were like in 2003, which is who Adult Swim's original target demographic was. The sort of guys who read underground comix like Tank Girl and fantranslated BD back in the 80s and 90s.
12 oz Mouse's revival is a fricking mess that
1. Throws out the thriller for something more out of Aqua Teen
2. Throws out the mystery the original series had (not to mention the webisode) for its own mystery that by default is less interesting on the precipice that it too can be thrown out just as easily
Shark and Rectangular Businessman being demoted to bumbling side-villains was shit as well
They were idiots in the original series as well, but both were also threatening— not to mention the main villains of the show.
the new athf is good wdym?
Ironically that season was closer to ATHF than the actual ATHF
The comedy is COMPLETELY off, in a similar way to Clone High S2 is to the original but not as bad as Clone High S2.
You can see it in this
vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08vtd4kYIfQ
It feels subservient to the Pop Tart brand rather than at its level like the Slim Jim one.
also
the animation "upgrade" sucks and makes me want to play in traffic
I thought it was alright, nothing will ever top the humor of the early seasons (and I couldn't tell you what changed exactly either lol) but I think since Lazzo left it's been a bit better lately. Not to sperg but I swear he had a traumatic brain injury or something cuz literally what the frick happened to him
Adult animation makes too much money for them to waste slots on experimental shit anymore sadly. Everything they greenlight from now on has to be a Family Guy or Rick & Morty clone because the suits are always demanding another hit
Hey now, they put out Shivering Truth a few ywas ago
admittedly the same studio went on to produce this exact manner of trash, but two seasons ain't bad
The original point of AS was that the overnight scheduling block for a cartoon channel was pure graveyard, so the studio execs gave them a skeleton budget and free reign to do whatever the frick they wanted. Very little of it was popular, but it wasn't intended to be. It was basically one step above Newgrounds. That's why more than one original programmes on the channel was literal gag dubs/proto-YTP versions of cartoons from the 60s (Sealab, Space Ghost, et al). ATHF being as popular as it was was a total fluke.
It looks bad. Like I get that adult animation has the luxury of making their series less appealing but got what is the obsession of making everything look absolutely fugly.
Its not funny thou, it is annoying. Men know about veganas, but most women don't even know how their own veganas work. What is the fricking point of making vegana jokes? Its not like dicks jokes as funny either. Why not stop being annoying, and be fricking funny?
Being annoying isn't funny. It makes people not like you even more. Dont be annoying and maybe people will like you. That goes for being a woman. Dont be an annoying b***h.
Everyone is going to say that this is bad because of the writing. Nobody is going to say that it's bad because the characters don't emote, or because every shot uses the 3/4 camera angle. Nobody is going to say that the jokes suck because they're written by writers who don't understand visual comedy.
They will keep making horseshit like this because few people understand animation well enough to critique it properly. People keep asking me why I watch kids shows like SpongeBob, and I say it's because the adult cartoons aren't even cartoons. They're radio dramas.
The new season of Aqua Teen actually looks good. AQUA TEEN. With dedication and expertise, you can make something that's infamously cheap look nice! But these frickers aren't trying.
I wish the Clone High reboot was a success, because for all its problems, it at least has SOME visual humor.
The more you get triggered by vegana jokes the more they will make them. You know they make vag jokes BECAUSE men cry and complain about them, right?
If you think the problem is the subject matter and not the direction, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Danny Antonucci and Jhonen Vasquez have said the same shit on podcasts, but I don't have screencaps because podcasts aren't a textual medium. But everyone knows this shit. Adult cartoons are fricked because they're not real cartoons.
>"Your cartoons are too lively and animated. Adults don't want that." >hurr don't have your CARTOONS be too ANIMATED
Fricking hell do these dumbasses know that Gen X was all over that shit back in the 90s? But then again that comment about the Simpsons just shows that she doesn't know what the frick she's talking about so it checks out.
The people in charge of television networks don't know anything about television, much less animation. The current CEO of WB (owner of AS) is a lawyer by trade. The president of Paramount (owner of Viacom/Nick) is a 'financial consultant' by trade. These giant companies just poach executives from other giant companies rather than train and promote from within their own ranks, so the end result is a revolving door of morons who only know how to butter up wallstreet investors and asset-strip.
Should I pitch my cartoon to Adult Swim when they do those dumb livestreams on their YouTube channel? Will I have a shot since they will greenlight anything no matter how shitty it is, like my cartoon for instance?
Those streams aren't actually hosted by executives, those are just random dipshits. It's not guaranteed to be greenlit either, they'll buy your idea for like 100 bucks but that's it
You're better off pitching it directly or doing it on your own time
Very true, it is just better to make your own animatic and pitch it yourself. Even better, make a proof of concept yourself with a small team of talent. You can do it yourself with the digital tools available.
It is going to be hard work and a test of your dedication of your passion. But if you have a vision you want to share with the world, then you should try.
Which in that case this series makes no sense either. It’s obviously mid at best but shitty at worse but they’ve already canceled series that had a built in fanbase. WB is gutting AS but sure make some shitty woke series because ESG points I guess?
Which in that case this series makes no sense either. It’s obviously mid at best but shitty at worse but they’ve already canceled series that had a built in fanbase. WB is gutting AS but sure make some shitty woke series because ESG points I guess?
I remember some moronic b***h got mad at them because they turned down her awful pitch. she made a rant video about it on her youtube video afterwards lol
I get her points. She’s obviously some autismo who’s taking it too seriously. But even she must realize that Adult Swim are known for their moronation. Hasn’t she seen any of their series before? The livestream is obviously just a set up so they can make fun of people pitching their ideas like the foot fetish guy and she seems to understand that but then dismissed it as “you guys aren’t being serious enough about these ideas”.
>I understand this is a comedy situation, I'm not complaining about that. >But I'm complaining they were being too comedic
This is why these people are never taken seriously. Well, that and the stupid hair. What could this dweeb possibly have pitched? Anybody got it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Having a hard time finding it since no one archived it and Adult Swim either unlisted or removed the streams from their YouTube channel.
If I remember correctly, it was just some mundane ass slice of life story about characters in a school like setting. It's basic white woman shit. Discount Daria to put it nicely.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I have an idea for a comedic version of Walker Texas Ranger starring a ditzy cute blonde with big breasts. Who do I talk to to make the pitch?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Those bozos who run the AS pitch meeting, that is if they even do it again.
3 months ago
Anonymous
there's a good chance it has something to do with this...
Remember when Pan pitched his idea to Adult Swim and he told Mike Lazzo and Genndy Tartakovsky that in his world humans could frick cartoons?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>humans could frick cartoons
yikes
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3 months ago
Anonymous
> Also, yeah you CAN bone cartoon characters in this world and uh...reproduce
Lazzo's face when
3 months ago
Anonymous
24:19 - "whats the structure of an episode?"
25:32 - "im still not sure what the show is"
25:55 - "why don't you take us through an episode?"
26:19 - Pan: "You can bone cartoons and stuff"
Whole room gets immediately awkward
26:58 - "I don't know if I'm fully getting where it goes"
Genndy (guy on the top left) has to explain to the others what the show is since Pan can't cause he's like a moronic child lmfao.
28:02 - "What is it about?"
Pan badly explains it AGAIN
Genndy and others nicely tells him it sucks
30:23 - "Just show me an animatic or storyboards cause so much of it is based on these fights and i wanna see it be cool"
30:49 - "miss the core of your show"
31:30 - "It's like if your pitching finding nemo and you go 'it's about the ocean'"
32:43 - "try and boil it down to 7 words"
Pan completely blew his chance. He straight up could have gotten industry contacts and eyes on his project if he properly pitched it. I can't remember his name but this artist was on one of these pitch nights and AS wanted more from him. He's made more pitches and is in contact with them. I don't know how he fricked up his one chance so badly.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>humans could frick cartoons
yikes
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How the frick do people like this get their foot in the door
3 months ago
Anonymous
The Adult Swim pitch series is/was open to anyone. Can't be arsed to google it, but they had an open invitation. I don't know if they're still doing it, but I also don't think anyone who pitched to them actually got anything out of it. As the aspie in the video linked here
pointed out, it seems to be mostly to poke fun at people's horrible pitches.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Pan seems to still be trying to make Loki is main project. Doesn’t he have any other ideas? I get that he’s spent a while on the comic but I don’t see this idea taking off to well on any network, streaming service, or even YouTube. Too bad cause I like his style.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think he's figured out what the story is actually about yet. He has a concept, but that's not a story. His pitch was like one of those "better cartoon" threads where he describes something he thinks would be cool instead of what actually drives the characters emotionally. Sure, they want to win a battle, but why? Who is the main character and why do they participate in the first place? Is there anything at stake? His pitch was essentially: > People can bring art to life > It will be animated in all mediums (read...costly and difficult to coordinate) > The creations can be made to battle > People can frick the cartoons
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like an autismo who watched Monkeybone when he was a teenager and got obsessed with it. Bet he has written fanfiction of himself porking Jessica Rabbit
3 months ago
Anonymous
What sucks is that he did have a good idea in the soft reboot of the comic (yes he made fricking short two comics run about the series beforehand) >MC wants to make cartoons >Is actually shit at it >Finds someone else's discarded idea and starts using it (Loki) >A Nationwide Tournament is held where the cartoons fight each other with their creators making gear on the fly >Their are multiple Rounds of eliminations of varying rule-sets. >Winner gets to make a show >Loki's twist is that while all characters get strengthened by social media attention he also goes berserk.
Like the bones are there to make a solid story of an artist coming into her own, with potential commentary on the state of social media in the industry.
That's all he had to fricking focus on and it would of been fine.
3 months ago
Anonymous
> My idea is basically Pokemon but you can frick the squirtle.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean if a cartoon existed that was Pokemon but the Pokemon were different animation styles and concepts there would be a place for that.
But yeah that you can frick them line is a death nail.
3 months ago
Anonymous
> that 'you can frick them' line is a death knell.
it wasn't even something that he accidentally blurted out because he was nervous. He had a god damned slide made for that comment. Like...what in the actual frick?
I know what you meant, but just so you know, it's 'death knell' which refers to the ringing of church bells which signified the passing of an important person
3 months ago
Anonymous
> I think we're still not getting where it goes. Maybe take us through another episode briefly? > Pan: "I dunno"
Genndy's face when
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's probably the most nervous I've ever heard him. Just the way he said it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't follow him. Does he always sound so autistic? and yeah, he probably should be nervous telling two legends of animation that he straight up wants to frick cartoons
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Does he always sound so autistic?
Yes, mostly in his podcasts. Though he tries to sound professional in his reviews with quips and wits here and there.
But this is peak Pan autism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZLdXkPVIo
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sometimes he holds the 's' or 't' at the ends of his words and it makes him sound like a tard.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Has he tried to review anything since his AS pitch? Hard to imagine people taking his critiques seriously after such a miserable display
Based. I watched exactly 30 seconds between the two webms and I ducked out before they even made a vegana joke. I don't know anyone who wants to watch a show about ugly moron chicks as it is, and I don't think adding gross out humor's gonna boost those numbers.
Is this supposed to appeal to Adult Swim's natural target demographic? Like honestly, did some boardroom full of suits imagine teenage-to-30-something males sitting down and watching this kind of thing?
This just proves that Lackadaisy, Smiling Friends and the Hellaverse aren’t going to change the standards of adult animation and make companies adopt cute, yet funnier art styles. It’s just going to be endless amounts of weird female showrunner shit, Ali Shankar fake-anime slop and Family Guy/Rick and Morty clones until it’s eventually no longer profitable. There’s probably been 30 shows made in the last decade that look exactly like this and there will probably be hundreds more in the future. All of which will last one or two seasons and leave zero impact. This is how an entire medium dies and the fat gluttonous consoomer is just laughing.
>All of which will last one or two seasons and leave zero impact.
What I don't understand is.... why do they keep doing it? If it's been proven to be a failure time and time again
I just wish Lackadaisy continued as a comic. As much as I enjoy it in animated form, it just doesn't work for me. I also don't like the visible guide-lines you see on some of the characters, nitpick but it's kinda jarring.
>I also don't like the visible guide-lines you see on some of the characters
It was a stylistic thing they purposely added in post as a throwback to the xerox era of Disney. If you watch some of the shorts they've been putting out recently it looks like they're dialing that back quite a bit.
The second episode is better than the first because their quirks are toned down.
Ramona works better as a delusional sheltered weirdo than a moron, Chrissy works better as a malicious but supportive bossy girl than an outwardly evil and controlling psychopath, annabelle is fine in the second episode and spike is good in both.
The first ep is really flawed in a lot of ways, it's framed like Annabelle learns a lesson but she never learns anything, the boy that fricked her loses his nuts and Spike and Ramona support her through it, there's also no reason Chrissy shouldn't have just told Ramona what an abortion was so she wouldn't be supportive of Annabelle.
Also the girls struggling to say it's better that their friend not being aborted and them not supporting her for being an abortion survivor was incredibly fricked up, even by adult swim standards. It was way more uncomfortable than Ramona fricking a horse.
>snarky postmodern writing that critiques american society >ugly art
Wow haven't seen this one before
Seeing as how you work at [as], here's an idea your bosses can have for free: cartoon with cute & sexy girls innocently getting themselves in lewd situations. Extra emphasis on them being endearing and desirable to a young MALE audience. Their flirty curvy ways should make the hearts of millions of boys flutter.
I have over thousands of dollars and I can write up a script. The only downside is that I cannot draw for shit. But I can set up a small studio to create a animated series for Cinemaphile.
Is there still time to get it done? I can rework an old script series I abandoned years ago and rework it for today's standards and none of this crap here.
>Shit, Maybe Hazbin kinda ain't that bad after-all
It was never bad, you just had shit tastes. Hazbin is the result of going hard on your autism and not giving up on your vision. Anything made for TV is made to be safe for network yes-men/yass-women.
I couldn't even make it to 3 minutes into the first video, good god that was awful. I wanted it to be over 60 seconds in. This looks like a pilot so who knows, I've seen miracles when shit pilots turned into gold.
>One thing I learned from my idol Hillary Clinton is how to make it look like a suicide.
Are people now allowed to make fun of the Clintons' various friends that committed suicide?
Who exactly is the demographic for this?
Where did you get this?? It's funny to be honest but
Women who think they're funny because they talk about gross stuff.
Honestly though, they've shit out worse.
Women who smoke weed I guess
Cool thanks it fricking sucks
she cute
I guess it's still in production, but damn those designs are less than inspired.
israelite nosed witch girl is kinda cute.
Acquire standards homosexuals.
You morons are so fricking weak
Boring as hell
would you like it more if it was a guy wearing a gay little hat you homo?
It's a tired girl in a witch hat
There are billions of those characters, already done much better.
Have some standards. Please.
Frick you
/co/‘s favorite witch is a troon’s self insert so you guys can’t talk
>Cinemaphile's favorite witch
That's Gwen, you troon.
Adult Swim makes nothing but fat chick cartoons now and it's sad.
What an estrogen filled nightmare
I doubt women like this "edgy' garbage
If only, some cute e-girl would redeem this shit, to bad they scared of being canceled and made them ugly
ToT
frick man that show was so good
and SHE's good
This feels like pedoshit
They canceled Pibby for this...
It never had a chance to begin with
wdym she's right there
>cancels Pibbys series
>keeps the character and moves her to a shitty girl cartoon
>she is also black now
WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS?
She was always BLACK
We've been over what non-human skin colors can mean black
BLUE IS NOT ONE OF THEM
>BLUE IS NOT ONE OF THEM
Oh really?
Pibby is light blue and the creators of love death and robots were blacklisted for breaking the cardinal rule
You can't say that about Skeeter you bigot
ugh
WHY ARE YOU SCREEAMING
Pibby was autistic creepypasta shit.
And that's a good thing!
Thank Frick
>Canceled
Like they ever had a plan for a full blown series in the first place. Get off your cross.
>30 seconds in
>already talking about abortion
Women are memes.
Who are the VA's?
Women aren't funny
Why did they feel the need to draw a literal horse wiener?
It's like they made a cartoon for Cinemaphile
Nah, the girls aren't hot enough. Cinemaphile would eat this shit up if the girls weren't hideous
Did Twitter made this why is this worst then Velma?
Any other information besides these animatics? Can't find a single thing about the show online
Guess it's a female lead show?
Every cartoon nowadays is female led.
>male led shows
>inventive settings with a variety of genres, views, character ages
>female led shows
>adulting is so hard, abortions veganas misogyny ugh, set in the big city/suburb, 3/4ths of the cast are some sort of brown, also all mid 20s cast because that's all the writer can imagine
>Old cartoons
>Fantastical settings with grounded, relatable characters
>New cartoons
>Realistic settings, with purely fictitious characters formulated for talking points
Sometimes I wonder if it's because newer generations have progressively insular social circles, and have fewer real life interactions with people in the real world.
It’s more that the entertainment industry has spent the last decade butchering its other forms of income and now solely rely on investments from companies like black rock that push shit like this. The sad part is I doubt there are ANY writers left that don’t whole heartedly believe in this corporate drivel the write in the deluded thought that it’s “progressive”
>inventive settings with a variety of genres, views, character ages
Don't lie, most of them are Family Guy clones
Oh, you thought I was just talking about "adult" cartoons. Nah, I meant all cartoons.
Seems like they are almost always self inserts.
>male led shows
>inventive settings with a variety of genres, views, character ages
>gets cancelled before the first season even ends because guys are off playing video games instead of watching it
>female led shows
>adulting is so hard, abortions veganas misogyny ugh, set in the big city/suburb, 3/4ths of the cast are some sort of brown, also all mid 20s cast because that's all the writer can imagine
>gets great ratings (because women actually watch TV) and runs for 6 seasons and wins multiple emmys
fixed.
>male led shows
>inventive settings with a variety of genres, views, character ages
>never gets greenlit because it doesn't pass focus group testing
>female led shows
>adulting is so hard, abortions veganas misogyny ugh, set in the big city/suburb, 3/4ths of the cast are some sort of brown, also all mid 20s cast because that's all the writer can imagine
>runs for 6 seasons and wins multiple emmys (the producers and voice actors are all blood-related to each other and the award academy execs) despite having abysmal ratings and costing the network millions
Fixed.
Gross Witch b***h pissed herself twice. Fricking disgusting.
No matter how many woman-led shows Adult Swim tries to launch they will never make one better than Tuca & Bertie. They should've just renewed that
Found Lisa Hanawalt's Cinemaphile account
They didn't renew it because
1. The ratings were god awful, even when they premiered new episodes after Rick and Morty
2. Tiffany Haddish got cancelled for pedo shit
3. Hannawalt is a genuinely unhinged femcel
needs more female slapstick
Don't care for the tone and subject matter. I have nothing against it, it's largely par for the course. There's just nothing creative or truly subversive and rebellious enough to make this worth sitting through. The kind of shock this offers simply has no value in this day and age. The only thing that could surprise me anymore is if they made something unironically wholesome.
The one thing that might have given it some legs is a good artstyle, but the few more polished frames seem dull. It sits somewhere between Birdgirl and Family Guy. It reminds me of Praise Petey, and I hope to god this is not the next prevailing style trend for adult cartoons.
cool, I can't wait for this board to get plagued with porn of the characters until it gets shoved to /aco/ where it'll inevitably be forgotten
unrelated; but whatever happened to that crowdfunded show about the disabled girls?
>hey guys our network is dying I know how to save us!
>lets make shows that the majority of the viewers can’t relate or find it boring and awful!
>make interesting and funny shows? no thanks xir its all about down to earth WACKY shows about women
>Adult Swim shows
>relatable
Really? What's relatable about wacky dude weed lmao humor with psychopathic characters?
That's what frat guys were like in 2003, which is who Adult Swim's original target demographic was. The sort of guys who read underground comix like Tank Girl and fantranslated BD back in the 80s and 90s.
remember when adult swim made experimental shows like 12 oz mouse and moral orel?
guess they aren't that anymore.
did you see the new aqua teen
they aren't even themselves from 9 years ago
the new athf is good wdym?
Nothings changed about ATHF my man
Last season of 12 oz mouse was pretty good too
Literally the only good new shows are Cusack related
12 oz Mouse's revival is a fricking mess that
1. Throws out the thriller for something more out of Aqua Teen
2. Throws out the mystery the original series had (not to mention the webisode) for its own mystery that by default is less interesting on the precipice that it too can be thrown out just as easily
Shark and Rectangular Businessman being demoted to bumbling side-villains was shit as well
They were idiots in the original series as well, but both were also threatening— not to mention the main villains of the show.
Ironically that season was closer to ATHF than the actual ATHF
The comedy is COMPLETELY off, in a similar way to Clone High S2 is to the original but not as bad as Clone High S2.
You can see it in this
vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08vtd4kYIfQ
It feels subservient to the Pop Tart brand rather than at its level like the Slim Jim one.
also
the animation "upgrade" sucks and makes me want to play in traffic
Dont care, Pop Tarts song was a banger
I thought it was alright, nothing will ever top the humor of the early seasons (and I couldn't tell you what changed exactly either lol) but I think since Lazzo left it's been a bit better lately. Not to sperg but I swear he had a traumatic brain injury or something cuz literally what the frick happened to him
Adult animation makes too much money for them to waste slots on experimental shit anymore sadly. Everything they greenlight from now on has to be a Family Guy or Rick & Morty clone because the suits are always demanding another hit
well something has to change soon, because wb having 60% bankruptcy will hit them like a truck.
Hey now, they put out Shivering Truth a few ywas ago
admittedly the same studio went on to produce this exact manner of trash, but two seasons ain't bad
12 oz mouse’s new season was so dead on arrival they shunted it to weekday night premieres, nobody cared about it.
Was the original 12 oz Mouse that popular?
I remember trying to watch it as a kid and I'd go to sleep as soon as the theme song was done
The original point of AS was that the overnight scheduling block for a cartoon channel was pure graveyard, so the studio execs gave them a skeleton budget and free reign to do whatever the frick they wanted. Very little of it was popular, but it wasn't intended to be. It was basically one step above Newgrounds. That's why more than one original programmes on the channel was literal gag dubs/proto-YTP versions of cartoons from the 60s (Sealab, Space Ghost, et al). ATHF being as popular as it was was a total fluke.
i remember it having an official russian dub, so the show went places i guess.
I made it about 30 seconds before I had to shut it off
>I'm playing the north tower, I can't explode twice
kek
While you have access to WB shit, can you leak any Cartoon Cartoons material? Particularly Harmony in Despair
omg so heckin witchy and valid thank you OP I decided to become trans
srry bruh but the humor gave me cancer
It looks bad. Like I get that adult animation has the luxury of making their series less appealing but got what is the obsession of making everything look absolutely fugly.
What a loser.
They canceled Tuca and Bertie for this
>they canceled shit for shit
it wasn't that bad but maybe my brain is rotten
MUH vegana OMG
The more you get triggered by vegana jokes the more they will make them. You know they make vag jokes BECAUSE men cry and complain about them, right?
>they're shit on purpose
weird flex but okay. I'd say they're terrified of actual effort, but cope however gets you through life
Its not funny thou, it is annoying. Men know about veganas, but most women don't even know how their own veganas work. What is the fricking point of making vegana jokes? Its not like dicks jokes as funny either. Why not stop being annoying, and be fricking funny?
Being annoying isn't funny. It makes people not like you even more. Dont be annoying and maybe people will like you. That goes for being a woman. Dont be an annoying b***h.
Everyone is going to say that this is bad because of the writing. Nobody is going to say that it's bad because the characters don't emote, or because every shot uses the 3/4 camera angle. Nobody is going to say that the jokes suck because they're written by writers who don't understand visual comedy.
They will keep making horseshit like this because few people understand animation well enough to critique it properly. People keep asking me why I watch kids shows like SpongeBob, and I say it's because the adult cartoons aren't even cartoons. They're radio dramas.
The new season of Aqua Teen actually looks good. AQUA TEEN. With dedication and expertise, you can make something that's infamously cheap look nice! But these frickers aren't trying.
I wish the Clone High reboot was a success, because for all its problems, it at least has SOME visual humor.
If you think the problem is the subject matter and not the direction, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Danny Antonucci and Jhonen Vasquez have said the same shit on podcasts, but I don't have screencaps because podcasts aren't a textual medium. But everyone knows this shit. Adult cartoons are fricked because they're not real cartoons.
>"Your cartoons are too lively and animated. Adults don't want that."
>hurr don't have your CARTOONS be too ANIMATED
Fricking hell do these dumbasses know that Gen X was all over that shit back in the 90s? But then again that comment about the Simpsons just shows that she doesn't know what the frick she's talking about so it checks out.
The people in charge of television networks don't know anything about television, much less animation. The current CEO of WB (owner of AS) is a lawyer by trade. The president of Paramount (owner of Viacom/Nick) is a 'financial consultant' by trade. These giant companies just poach executives from other giant companies rather than train and promote from within their own ranks, so the end result is a revolving door of morons who only know how to butter up wallstreet investors and asset-strip.
John K is a fan of Beavis and Butthead however.
He wasn't criticising B&BH or Simpsons, he was criticising the studio executives who misunderstood why they were so popular.
This is the kind of show Zaslav wants AS to make? Whew boy
How come on the rare occasions Cinemaphile gets leaks it's always boring shit like this no one cares about
Because it's easier to leak boring shit no one cares about, less likely for anyone to care or notice it got leaked at all
>funny show
>homosexuals are complaining because the idea of women having inside jokes is on par with homosexuality
your mothers were moronic
How many of these “good girls” are trannies? I think the witch girl’s VA is a guy at least?
>a man has never voiced a cartoon woman
I think you look out for wiener more than your look out for pussy, gay
Don't bother insulting him about his fixation man, he'll just register you as a troony in his head and pretend like he won the argument.
Fricking troony I hurt your fee fees?
>fee fees?
???
ignorance isn't a virtue m8
The second episode was better than the first. It reminds me of the old days of edgy Adult Swim.
Should I pitch my cartoon to Adult Swim when they do those dumb livestreams on their YouTube channel? Will I have a shot since they will greenlight anything no matter how shitty it is, like my cartoon for instance?
Those streams aren't actually hosted by executives, those are just random dipshits. It's not guaranteed to be greenlit either, they'll buy your idea for like 100 bucks but that's it
Damn
You're better off pitching it directly or doing it on your own time
Very true, it is just better to make your own animatic and pitch it yourself. Even better, make a proof of concept yourself with a small team of talent. You can do it yourself with the digital tools available.
Will do. Thought about giving Blender a shot since I'm too cheap to renew Maya since Autodesk is ran by scum.
It is going to be hard work and a test of your dedication of your passion. But if you have a vision you want to share with the world, then you should try.
Pretty sure they stopped doing those livestreams years ago due to budget cuts
Which in that case this series makes no sense either. It’s obviously mid at best but shitty at worse but they’ve already canceled series that had a built in fanbase. WB is gutting AS but sure make some shitty woke series because ESG points I guess?
I remember some moronic b***h got mad at them because they turned down her awful pitch. she made a rant video about it on her youtube video afterwards lol
I'd love to see that video if it's still on Youtube.
Sweet mother of Jesus Christo
The katana in the background is the perfect touch.
What a bizarre video. My favorite quote was probably: "I personally believe that no idea is a bad idea".
The fact that this whole incident was started by some footgay's show pitch to Adult Swim is just amazing.
I get her points. She’s obviously some autismo who’s taking it too seriously. But even she must realize that Adult Swim are known for their moronation. Hasn’t she seen any of their series before? The livestream is obviously just a set up so they can make fun of people pitching their ideas like the foot fetish guy and she seems to understand that but then dismissed it as “you guys aren’t being serious enough about these ideas”.
>I understand this is a comedy situation, I'm not complaining about that.
>But I'm complaining they were being too comedic
This is why these people are never taken seriously. Well, that and the stupid hair. What could this dweeb possibly have pitched? Anybody got it?
Having a hard time finding it since no one archived it and Adult Swim either unlisted or removed the streams from their YouTube channel.
If I remember correctly, it was just some mundane ass slice of life story about characters in a school like setting. It's basic white woman shit. Discount Daria to put it nicely.
I have an idea for a comedic version of Walker Texas Ranger starring a ditzy cute blonde with big breasts. Who do I talk to to make the pitch?
Those bozos who run the AS pitch meeting, that is if they even do it again.
there's a good chance it has something to do with this...
What in the everloving frick is going on with her teeth?
Lmao, where can I see the footgay's pitch?
Remember when Pan pitched his idea to Adult Swim and he told Mike Lazzo and Genndy Tartakovsky that in his world humans could frick cartoons?
>humans could frick cartoons
yikes
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> Also, yeah you CAN bone cartoon characters in this world and uh...reproduce
Lazzo's face when
24:19 - "whats the structure of an episode?"
25:32 - "im still not sure what the show is"
25:55 - "why don't you take us through an episode?"
26:19 - Pan: "You can bone cartoons and stuff"
Whole room gets immediately awkward
26:58 - "I don't know if I'm fully getting where it goes"
Genndy (guy on the top left) has to explain to the others what the show is since Pan can't cause he's like a moronic child lmfao.
28:02 - "What is it about?"
Pan badly explains it AGAIN
Genndy and others nicely tells him it sucks
30:23 - "Just show me an animatic or storyboards cause so much of it is based on these fights and i wanna see it be cool"
30:49 - "miss the core of your show"
31:30 - "It's like if your pitching finding nemo and you go 'it's about the ocean'"
32:43 - "try and boil it down to 7 words"
Pan completely blew his chance. He straight up could have gotten industry contacts and eyes on his project if he properly pitched it. I can't remember his name but this artist was on one of these pitch nights and AS wanted more from him. He's made more pitches and is in contact with them. I don't know how he fricked up his one chance so badly.
How the frick do people like this get their foot in the door
The Adult Swim pitch series is/was open to anyone. Can't be arsed to google it, but they had an open invitation. I don't know if they're still doing it, but I also don't think anyone who pitched to them actually got anything out of it. As the aspie in the video linked here
pointed out, it seems to be mostly to poke fun at people's horrible pitches.
Pan seems to still be trying to make Loki is main project. Doesn’t he have any other ideas? I get that he’s spent a while on the comic but I don’t see this idea taking off to well on any network, streaming service, or even YouTube. Too bad cause I like his style.
I don't think he's figured out what the story is actually about yet. He has a concept, but that's not a story. His pitch was like one of those "better cartoon" threads where he describes something he thinks would be cool instead of what actually drives the characters emotionally. Sure, they want to win a battle, but why? Who is the main character and why do they participate in the first place? Is there anything at stake? His pitch was essentially:
> People can bring art to life
> It will be animated in all mediums (read...costly and difficult to coordinate)
> The creations can be made to battle
> People can frick the cartoons
Sounds like an autismo who watched Monkeybone when he was a teenager and got obsessed with it. Bet he has written fanfiction of himself porking Jessica Rabbit
What sucks is that he did have a good idea in the soft reboot of the comic (yes he made fricking short two comics run about the series beforehand)
>MC wants to make cartoons
>Is actually shit at it
>Finds someone else's discarded idea and starts using it (Loki)
>A Nationwide Tournament is held where the cartoons fight each other with their creators making gear on the fly
>Their are multiple Rounds of eliminations of varying rule-sets.
>Winner gets to make a show
>Loki's twist is that while all characters get strengthened by social media attention he also goes berserk.
Like the bones are there to make a solid story of an artist coming into her own, with potential commentary on the state of social media in the industry.
That's all he had to fricking focus on and it would of been fine.
> My idea is basically Pokemon but you can frick the squirtle.
I mean if a cartoon existed that was Pokemon but the Pokemon were different animation styles and concepts there would be a place for that.
But yeah that you can frick them line is a death nail.
> that 'you can frick them' line is a death knell.
it wasn't even something that he accidentally blurted out because he was nervous. He had a god damned slide made for that comment. Like...what in the actual frick?
I know what you meant, but just so you know, it's 'death knell' which refers to the ringing of church bells which signified the passing of an important person
> I think we're still not getting where it goes. Maybe take us through another episode briefly?
> Pan: "I dunno"
Genndy's face when
That's probably the most nervous I've ever heard him. Just the way he said it.
I don't follow him. Does he always sound so autistic?
and yeah, he probably should be nervous telling two legends of animation that he straight up wants to frick cartoons
>Does he always sound so autistic?
Yes, mostly in his podcasts. Though he tries to sound professional in his reviews with quips and wits here and there.
But this is peak Pan autism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZLdXkPVIo
Sometimes he holds the 's' or 't' at the ends of his words and it makes him sound like a tard.
Has he tried to review anything since his AS pitch? Hard to imagine people taking his critiques seriously after such a miserable display
IDK why but the "humour" just reeks of this shit in pic related.
yeah but this leaked show doesn't have any frickable character
I was amused at the very least.
Grass grows
Birds fly
Sun shines
White women aren't funny
Indie stuff needs to burn down this hellscape of an industry holy fricking shit, corporate slop is cancer.
>that oval tool eyes style
dropped
don't bother
>Nice Girls Club!
Don't even need to watch it. It's crap.
Based. I watched exactly 30 seconds between the two webms and I ducked out before they even made a vegana joke. I don't know anyone who wants to watch a show about ugly moron chicks as it is, and I don't think adding gross out humor's gonna boost those numbers.
>8 secs in
>that artstyle for the house
consider me filtered
is this a show about girls?
>Don't worry bro AI can't replace us board artists
Is this supposed to appeal to Adult Swim's natural target demographic? Like honestly, did some boardroom full of suits imagine teenage-to-30-something males sitting down and watching this kind of thing?
I wonder who the frick would want to watch this. It's just vile stuff. I guess it is aimed at women after all.
T. had no problem with SuperJail
Adult Swim has been trying to appeal to females for the past few years. Even their current bumps read like they're full of estrogen.
I thought it had some funny bits but it didn't really keep my attention.
It's too bad this show didn't place in the Middle East so they could just kill the black girl for being a prostitute.
This just proves that Lackadaisy, Smiling Friends and the Hellaverse aren’t going to change the standards of adult animation and make companies adopt cute, yet funnier art styles. It’s just going to be endless amounts of weird female showrunner shit, Ali Shankar fake-anime slop and Family Guy/Rick and Morty clones until it’s eventually no longer profitable. There’s probably been 30 shows made in the last decade that look exactly like this and there will probably be hundreds more in the future. All of which will last one or two seasons and leave zero impact. This is how an entire medium dies and the fat gluttonous consoomer is just laughing.
>All of which will last one or two seasons and leave zero impact.
What I don't understand is.... why do they keep doing it? If it's been proven to be a failure time and time again
I just wish Lackadaisy continued as a comic. As much as I enjoy it in animated form, it just doesn't work for me. I also don't like the visible guide-lines you see on some of the characters, nitpick but it's kinda jarring.
>I also don't like the visible guide-lines you see on some of the characters
It was a stylistic thing they purposely added in post as a throwback to the xerox era of Disney. If you watch some of the shorts they've been putting out recently it looks like they're dialing that back quite a bit.
2 Seasons of gold or trash is long enough not to offer the creators or workers on said shows higher wages, benefits, and/or residuals.
The witch can stay
Sorry guys, I liked it.
The second episode is better than the first because their quirks are toned down.
Ramona works better as a delusional sheltered weirdo than a moron, Chrissy works better as a malicious but supportive bossy girl than an outwardly evil and controlling psychopath, annabelle is fine in the second episode and spike is good in both.
The first ep is really flawed in a lot of ways, it's framed like Annabelle learns a lesson but she never learns anything, the boy that fricked her loses his nuts and Spike and Ramona support her through it, there's also no reason Chrissy shouldn't have just told Ramona what an abortion was so she wouldn't be supportive of Annabelle.
Also the girls struggling to say it's better that their friend not being aborted and them not supporting her for being an abortion survivor was incredibly fricked up, even by adult swim standards. It was way more uncomfortable than Ramona fricking a horse.
>snarky postmodern writing that critiques american society
>ugly art
Wow haven't seen this one before
Seeing as how you work at [as], here's an idea your bosses can have for free: cartoon with cute & sexy girls innocently getting themselves in lewd situations. Extra emphasis on them being endearing and desirable to a young MALE audience. Their flirty curvy ways should make the hearts of millions of boys flutter.
Take that to the bank and cash it.
I have over thousands of dollars and I can write up a script. The only downside is that I cannot draw for shit. But I can set up a small studio to create a animated series for Cinemaphile.
Is there still time to get it done? I can rework an old script series I abandoned years ago and rework it for today's standards and none of this crap here.
It's not really fair to judge something by an animatic. Even the greatest shows look and feel like shit in this context.
so she fricked the horse?
I think she jerked it off but the fact Ramona is being called a sexual being when she's the moron awoke something inside me
Shit, Maybe Hazbin kinda ain't that bad after-all
>Shit, Maybe Hazbin kinda ain't that bad after-all
It was never bad, you just had shit tastes. Hazbin is the result of going hard on your autism and not giving up on your vision. Anything made for TV is made to be safe for network yes-men/yass-women.
I couldn't even make it to 3 minutes into the first video, good god that was awful. I wanted it to be over 60 seconds in. This looks like a pilot so who knows, I've seen miracles when shit pilots turned into gold.
>One thing I learned from my idol Hillary Clinton is how to make it look like a suicide.
Are people now allowed to make fun of the Clintons' various friends that committed suicide?