he's actually a pretty swell guy with all said and done
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he's actually a pretty swell guy with all said and done
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what's the symbolism if him turning into a giant dick, that he embodies the masculine ordering principle? i don't know because i never went to school.
his purpose in life was to constrict human freedoms to such a degree that they would never allow themselves to submit to another tyranical regime again
not a government, not a mindset, not a mesiah
in effect, he was the biggest dick that had ever existed in the universe
He also made sure to breed a race of humans invisible to psychic visions so they'd never be controlled by someone who could see the future
>He also made sure to breed a race of humans invisible to psychic visions
What are you talking about? I only remember Ixians conceiving and raising children in no-chambers to avoid Leto II's prescience.
>realize humanity needs to never submit to a tyrant ever again
>become a tyrant and force humanity to submit to me
>?????
>profit
its just the zero requiem like a false flag regime in order to oppress people so hard that they are forced to resist him
he was trying to breed humans that would revolt against tyrants and be strong enough to succeed, that was the only way for humanity to survive, the golden path forced him to make a creation that would slay him
The worm is sort of like oroborous in this context; he consumes and upon his death he becomes consumed. Also the fact that he is an amalgamated being makes him the embodiment of an empire. The roman empire, for example, consumed other cultures and digested them, and when it collapsed it became the foundation of Western European culture. Its like how a star turns hydrogen into the heavier elements and when it dies it becomes the building blocks for planets. Like all of Dune, ultimately its about ecology, and its saying that culture/civilization follows the same cyclical rules as nature.
Not to mention that the worm literally feeds on itself
So was Leto II the real Kwisatz Haderach all along?
Not to detract from the point you're making, but just to comment on the image: I don't think the adult sandworm really interacts with spice in any significant way. They live near the spice patches, but not out of any direct attraction to it, and I don't think they'd scatter it in any significant way, either.
Paul was a real KH but pussed out of following the golden path. Leto II (and Ghani) were pre-born because they had Paul's genes and fetal melange-spice syndrome so they had the same ability to interact with their ancestors. Leto II bred his sister's descendants to be able to see their anscestors/memories but be able to hide from them and any prescient beings
>So was Leto II the real Kwisatz Haderach all along?
Not according to Frank's son. The real KH is duncan, and they tell him this and suddently he absorbs a robot into his being and becomes a hybrid human / robot and saves the universe by doing so somehow.
God the ending was such shit.
Sandworms was ok
This is so moronic it's frying my brain.
Dune is space opera fantasy and not really science fiction other than having 'sci-fi' concepts like FTL but that might as well be magic (which it is)
Its necessary for the story to make a simple point about ecology
but where do plankton come from?
When the worms die they dissolve into plankton
ancient aliens put them on Arrakis
nobody knows, but its pointed out they are not native from Arakis
Brian Herbert's next novel will address this
yes literally, the entire species is beholden to him
he even notices that people who approach him always look for his giant worm dick
he called this decision The Golden Shower
it's a piss fetish
>getting zero pussy so i became the pussy
but seriously he looks like a giant clit in this pic. i'm getting mixed messages
He becomes the worm so the spice can flow once again.
Literally the opposite. He became the worm to restrict the spice and subjugate all the groups that needed it. Only after he dies is when spice becomes more abundant and then they find his hidden spice stash thousands of years later
They find his hidden stash immediately which they dole out waiting for the tiny babby worms to get big enough to make spice naturally.
don't forget that the tlelaxu start making spice in their wive's pussies
>He had an imperial guard made entirely of women
>They were galactic hall monitors. Interplanetary henpecking scolds.
so the clit on the giant dick actually makes sense.
That pic is fricked up, it never described his head as growing to the size of a human. He was a normal person size that was sprouted out the head of a giant worm.
Underrated comment. The art in sci fi often doesn't reflect the author's intent leaving aside the reader's interpretation.
he had to get it on. humanity was making a move.
Any of you want some pie?
he's the ultimate white savior
The golden path, someone's gotta do it
This. Leto#2 is taking one for the team and I can respect that
me on the far right
ChACKed.
>tfw the spice must flow
>It's a Leto II crushes Duncan (again) - episode.
pics taken moments before disaster
Can someone shoop this guy's face behind a much smaller
killer whale sitting on an ice block
>Yeah let's steal that.
> rip off everyone
> remake your ripoff so you could copyright all the shit you ripped off
> profit
Gews Workshop
It really is, how many more shekels did they squeeze out 'aelves' or whatever other shite Age of Smegma produced
40ks God Emperor is a corpse hooked up to a warp beacon.
>to a warp beacon.
moron
HE IS THE WARP BEACON
the throne is just an amplifier/ life support machine.
also he was the "god" emperor before he "died"
they kept saying how le (purposely) evil he is but they never actually showed any atrocities commited by him. yes he ruled them for like thousand years and restrained their travel but I don't see a reason why would an average joe from the planet uranus hate him for that. but apparentely every fricking person in the galaxy hates him with burning passion. this doesn't make sense
He had an imperial guard made entirely of women. I would hate to be subjected to that.
were they sexy? it's different if they are sexy
If I recall, they were breeding stock so they were mannish and ugly
If they're looking like them crossfit roasties I'd wife any of them in a heartbeat
Those cute crossfit varbies are few and far between
Most of the time they look ugly and gross.
this is why i prefer qt trans girls. at least their sissyclits are usually good enough to reach my prostate
And still not the weirdest thing to happen in the books
Muscle mummies who could actually crush your head between their thighs
I'm thinking Leto had patrician tastes
>I only remember Ixians conceiving and raising children in no-chambers to avoid Leto II's prescience.
There were also people invisible to prescience bred by Leto, like all the Atreides descendants like Siona iirc
It's how they were able to ambush and kill him
>breeding stock
shouldnt they have wide hips and huge breasts then?
>Mannish and ugly
Zendaya's descendants
Probably. Jason Mamoa had a massive sperg out when he saw a couple of them making out which led to him assassinating the worm. He also gave another one an orgasm from rock climbing. Frank Herbert is weird, man.
Well not all writers can be based like Robert Jordan and like collaring scenes and spanking
>smoothed her skirts
>set the dice rolling
>tugged her braid
Frank Herbert wrote a book called the Jesus Incident where there is a mutant sex room, and there is a hermaphrodite grotesque thing that is fricking itself. Giga based, the video game Alpha Centauri was inspired by that book.
I've wanted to read that since I adore SMAC. But the only non-Dune book I've read from Herbert the Elder was "Direct Descent", easily one of the worst novels I've read, sci-fi or not. My enthusiasm is yet tempered.
I have The Dosadi Experiment and Destination: VOID, I heard those are good
What spanking scenes are in Robert Jordan books? That's hot.
They were galactic hall monitors. Interplanetary henpecking scolds. Jen Psaki harpies empowered by their omniscient god emperor to oppress the population utterly.
Space Karen Commandos
Put a one year old in a small pen and walk away, you will have your answer by their reaction
except the pen is the size of a planet
The size of a tiny village.
Imagine a million worlds all littered with countless shithole villages, where people are not allowed to leave unless a Gigastacy signs their papers, and where the fastest speed is walking.
That was his empire.
maybe they should try building some cities like we did on earth
congratulations, fish speakers just killed everyone in your town for daring to make a house that is taller than a single story and/or made of anything but mud brick or wood
source?
The book called "God Emperor of Dune"
can you cite this particular passage?
my girlfriend has my copy but it's in one of the pre-chapter quote things and the chapter when Duncan/Siona go to Tuono
>a small village
>in which the fastest speed is walking
so?
You can't get to the barcade
Kaczinsky wet dream, sounds comfy actually
Sounds like walkable cities, the end of personal car ownership and the great reset. We'll own nothing and be happy
how many groomers are also in the pen? ( i need a self insert)
The Ixians and Bene Gesserit hated him because he wouldn't let them do whatever they wanted. He was truly our emperor.
You say that, but that's just cope. They planned yet another failed assassination attempt, and Leto was just disappointed because it didn't work and was boring. Hell, he didn't even reduce their spice rations afterwards. He just told them to git gud and don't be moronic next time.
He restricted spice. All the ruling class people were addicted to it so they hated him and saw him as literally hitler ×1000 years. After he was gone they became the ruling class again and wrote history so he was le epic evil man because he didnt give people the drug they wanted
it was 3,500 years of not allowing people to be anything besides mediocre. he also took away spice from everyone except for a few groups who got a pittance, so lifespans weren't longer.
he did this so that people were ready to explore further than ever before, past our universe and with atreides who could hide from prescience so that humanity wasn't ultimately threatened by whatever dangerous technology they were bound to eventually make.
>past our universe
I've always assumed this meant galaxy. Did anyone else? Humanity inhabiting the entirety of the universe is just absurd
also the Scattering is treated as though things out there were effecting it but not the old Imperium. Which would make sense if it was an exodus away from the Milky Way into a nearby Galaxy where the Honored Matres eventually become powerful
we don't really know all that much about normal people of the empire in Dune. The impression I get is that most people just sort of get by and live more primitive lives than people do now and submit to their feudal system unless they're part of something like the Spacing Guild. The average person in the Empire probably has very little reason to leave their planet so long as they can make a living there and Leto's largest repression seems to have been limiting inter-planetary travel to a trickle as very little spice is given to the Spacing Guild or other organizations that rely on it. The Fishspeakers were also specifically made to avoid atrocities with the idea they wouldn't engage in rape and pillaging. The planets of the old Imperium probably faced some level of overpopulation as they could not settle new worlds and that was part of the Scattering but yeah I agree I can't see most people giving too much of a shit outside of the Guild, Bene Gesserits, and other important groups like various major Houses that lost their CHOAM profits and travel privileges
>they kept saying how le (purposely) evil he is but they never actually showed any atrocities commited by him
Some of that is Frank just being a mediocre to above-average writer. But I suppose that's also to his credit as an author that he leaves a lot of it up to the imagination instead of explicitly spelling it out.
>most people just sort of get by and live more primitive lives than people do now and submit to their feudal system
The appendicies in Dune specifically points out that the victors in the aftermath of the Battle of Corrin decided that highly decentralized HRE+Achaemenid Persia would be the most optimal form of governance for a space-faring empire. I think that Leto's tyranny was breaking that system in favor of extremely centralized purposeful neglect. Like
and
said, you're stuck in an open-air prison from cradle to grave. It's not the idyllic indawoods primitivism that Uncle Ted envisioned (
), its an inflexible bureaucratic nightmare you can't wake up from.
I remember reading back when the earthquake-tsunami struck Fukushima, there were trucks filled with relief supplies lined up on the highway waiting to enter the region, but they couldn't go in because no one on the ground could authorize entry into the restricted disaster area, so the trucks just sat their idling while the bureaucrats played telephone with each other. I imagine that Leto's empire was that kind of red tape but on a galactic scale, PLUS Wahhabist punishments for anyone trying to exercise local agency to totally buckbreak the population
>oh so you're going to ignore the will of our infallible God-Emperor (pbuh) and move your haram combustion engine powered cart into this restricted area instead of waiting for the OK from a distant planet light years away?
>10,000 lashes and we're castrating your son in the village square
I hate this mary sue so much
witch hands typed this post
probably a dirty little bawd
>look morty I turned myself into a worm, I'm WOOORM LETOO
bravo herbert
YWNBAWorm
>wines about everything
>sets humanity back
>destroys Dune
>somehow falls in love with a regular human
>gets cucked by a clone
>lets himself die
fricking stupid ass character I hate frank herbert so much
He gave up his perfect waifu to create superhumans and advance humanity.
>perfect waifu
>cucks you instantly
>It's over
>The Golden Path has fallen
>Trillions must scatter
I turned myself into a worm Duncan
I'M GOD EMPEROR LETOOOOOO!!!
He seems kinda wormy and creepy to me.
So are you afraid of your own dick then?
cool it with the antiwormitism
Would you guys recommend dune on audio book for a semi midwit? Or is it something you need to really pay attention and reread to appreciate?
There's a lot of weird names and technologies being slung at the reader so I have a hard time following audiobooks like that. The story itself is purposefully offputting at first to lure you into the worldbuilding so don't drop it right away if you're feeling lost. If you have access to the audiobook give it a shot, what's there to lose?
>what's there to lose?
time
Damn forgot my pic
I listened to the Dune audiobook on audibile and it's a bit hard to follow because some chapters are fully voiced acted but some have the narrator doing all the characters.
It's still pretty good though
Mine are older and ever book the pronounce things differently. Took me a few chapters to realize they were talking about the same person.
I swear that was an issue with Roy Dotrices voiceover for ASOIAF, because George takes like 20 years between each books and Roy forgets how he voiced actors or pronounced certain words. And now he’s dead which will make it even harder for him to voice Winds of Winter
I read it in 5th grade, the books are incredibly simple to understand
I'm almost done with Children of Dune, what am I in for?
The ramblings of a hippie on psychedelics
Some far out shit.
Over 200 pages of a boomer rambling about how pharoes bad
The unofficial biography of Muahmar Ghadafi
The greatest novel ever written.
>Moneo! My Duncan had an... Accident. Call the Telelaxu immediately and get me a fresh one!
>...Yes, M'Lord.
You guys are all fricking morons
why?
There are no guys on the internet you're on the upside down internet
Makes sense
You take that back! 🙁
Hello God Emperor Leto, Duncan is fricking hwi right now
I can't use MS Paint or Photoshop for shit - can someone please do a better job? also.. are Frank's book 5 and 6 worth it? Dune book 1 and book 4 (God Emperor) were great.. books 2 and 3 were such a god damn slog
>books 2 and 3 were such a god damn slog
Filtered
No it's perfect
You should stop at God Emperor then... The later novels are very slow moving and don't really lead to anything satisfying.
Without the final Frank book, the later half of the series is pointless. GEoD could have been the final boom, and epilogue to Paul's story and the path he turned from. Instead it takes a turn into muppet babies in space with Frank and his wife thrown in for fun.
Hows this?
lmao nice man,, please have a (You) you absolutely deserve it
just add the onions faces pointing at Leto and it's perfect
Fricking amazing.
>books 2 and 3 were such a god damn slog
shame, Messiah is my favorite of the series
Messiah is the best after Dune
Paul is the most interesting part of the series. Everything else is not as compelling.
I quit somewhere during God Emperor of Dune
I liked the first 3 books.
I haven't read 6 yet, but I'm just finishing 5 and it's not good. It started off fairly promisingly, but it's a linear decline throughout, with the latter third being a total snoozefest.
Sounds like a shitty Hyperion rip-off
Funnily enough im reading hyperion right now (on book 3 now) and thought it was basically a dune ripoff
>all human but the "alien" ones look weird
>a special planet both sides want control over
It just combines both the story and the butlerian jihad at the same time.
Also he starts book 3 with "my name is raul, which rhymes with paul" like wtf is this homie doing?
5 is like 3 where it doesn't pick up until the last act where it goes wild.
you liked 4 over 2 and 3?
god emperor is easily the worst
Not the same. Paul still had choices while Eren was never free from the future. People will hate but I like the puppet imagery in this design.
and he looks like suchi role
I'm halfway into the Dune novel and I really want to have sex with Lady Jessica
Then you're going to like what comes 4000 years later.
And 3 of the 4 adaptation actresses
play behind the dune
It's a surprisingly good adaptation. 😀 You can play Paul canonically, or a less cucked version of him, which is frankly refreshing.
>Duncan! Duncan look I turned myself into a worm!
>WOOO WORM LETO!
Have sex with my Great^infinity niece Duncan!
No! not with my genetically engineered clone waifu! NOOOOO DUNCAN!
wait wait wait
does Dune end up in like an attack on titan thing, where Eren/Paul was causing/driving all the events of the story the whole time?
Go the frick back, holy shit
I cant, the CHOAM guild wont let me navigate myself back
Imagine being the type of weirdo who likes dune passed the first book or even worse acknowledging awful work of the son(and his ghost writer). Very very pathetic .It's okay to let things go.
I think messiah is good.
You already posted that. BTW: Didn't ask, don't care. I'm better than you.
If you liked Dune but didn't like Messiah you are actually moronic
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Frick you
God Emperor was the best one of the first four.
I didn't read any after it those space prostitutes seemed like they would be obnoxious.
>I didn't read any after it those space prostitutes seemed like they would be obnoxious
They actually weren't bad, its the capeshit tier powers he gives the atredies character and child duncan mentat that is obnoxious.
Yeah, it doesn't help that they came out of nowhere.
I still enjoyed the last books, but things were getting more unhinged at a rather alarming pace
yeah but the whole duncan idaho thing was moronic
made no sense why he kept being bred back into the line leto was breeding
Leto wanted to make sure Chad was preserved
Leto needed a reminder of his past and someone truly loyal who could be as close to a friend as he was able to ever have.. until they would inevitably try to kill him ofc
Because he saw the golden path that duncan will eventually be the savior of humanity.
Im sure it would have paid off better had he wrote it and not his son retconning the free-minded facedancers
Irony is that one day we'll use ChatGTP or some equivalent to write the final book based only on the original texts, the rest of Franks writing and fifty thousand replays of the Dune board game.
Also I'd like a board game set in the sequels. Maybe something like Black Orchestra for God Emperor where you all have to work together to kill Leto II.
I think duncans provide a personal honor to humanity, which is ingrained within their memory-dna, and needs to be refreshed with the constant addition of his genome, else it may become too dilute
for those that will rule, duncans provide humanity to lines which would otherwise become as inhuman as leto was
But all it amounted to was all his previous forms being mashed together into a super duncan clone that remembers all his other duncans.
only the first four books are canon, frank turns into a coomer fraud by the 5th and undermines everything he did in the previous 4
the last two have their own interesting bits and values, but they cant be considered the same story without taking his work as a whole down by several pegs
if you're willing to include those books, then might as well include all the rest written by his son
>ascends beyond the visionary tier and into the enlightened plane of coomerism
I've been following in Frank's footsteps all along...
Pretty much. Heretics and Chapterhouse are just bizarre.
Why would a Fleet research mission in a distant planet welcome with open arms an infamous space pirate?
>book 6 of a 7-8 book long series
>introduce israelites to the story (literal 20th century israelites who've been around for 20000 years)
What did Herbert mean by this?
>books 1-4 are about arabia
>jews invade in '48 and must be at some point addressed.
I don't know why he went with literal, rather than metaphorical israelites tho.
1-4 are about arabia
Books 1-3 are about the Caucauses, the desert setting is just window dressing. Book 4 is Filthy Frank writing his Socratic dialogue featuring a giant worm-man, and setting up the absolute degeneracy that is going to be book 5 and 6 when the coomer awakens.
The asian doctor was a christian in book 1, whats so hard to believe israelites are still around too?
>The asian doctor was a christian
No he wasn't, he was part of the undefined and purposefully vague state sanctioned religion that everyone in the empire was. Admittedly, the Orange Catholic religion is basically just made-up sci-fi Christianity, but the israelites that show up are straight up kvetching israelites from Long Island in the 20th Century, it's an abrupt tonal shift.
The Fremen are also "muslim" but it's clearly not modern day Islam and a made up scifi version
>even the literal worm god-emperor of mankind gets cucked by chad
He took the ultimate blackpill
chair
dogs
he looks like a big black dick
worship bbc white boi
Guys, what the frick was up with Sheeana? Like, I get that the Bene Gesserit plan was to use her as a new religious figurehead and finally mostly seize the reins for themselves, but what was her deal? Why could she control the worms? Where do you think Frank was going with her?
She's a decendant of Paul
Everything after God Emperor is about surprises. Sheanna just had some crazy random evolutionary trait
Bene gesserit are Jesuit witches