I actually enjoyed it, although his simplification of vintage variation and low correlation between price points and quality was sorta inaccurate. >t. Irl wine salesman
>far too much to cover to cram into a single video >even if he does do it, it'll be several hours long, which means nobody get to see it until 10 years from now
AAAA NOO NOT PLAGARISM... ON MY INTERNET... NOO IM GOING INSANE... HOW CAN THIS MAN EVER BE FORGIVEN FOR TAKING A SNIPPET FROM AN ARTICLE AND PUTTING IT IN HIS VIDEO!? WE MUST... WE MUST WHIP HIM. YES, HE NEEDS TO BE WHIPPED. PERHAPS THE BRAZEN BULL WILL STRAIGHTEN HIM OUT.
It was about 15% of the script of the video, in the middle.
After much moronic checking in an attempt to le own de chuds, no other examples of copy-pasting can be found.
Given that this happened right after he said he was hiding writers to help with longer projects, the conclusion is pretty obvious.
>TAKING A SNIPPET FROM AN ARTICLE
He took all the research from article and did not credit the guy (despite crediting other people). You can project being mad, but if you didn't think it was bad you wouldn't try so hard to downplay it.
I think it's hilarious all the breadtubers are pissed off because he won't comment on it. They thrive on a response, which can only do you harm.
IH stole, doesn't give a shit, and neither do his audience
This is literally what he's doing. That's the cheat code to avoiding cancellation - you acknowledge nothing, lie low for months, then come back like nothing had happened. The people who have been turned by the initial drama aren't coming back anyways so why bother acknowledge them. The people on the fence of the drama only serve to be alienated by any defense you make. Your fans are your fans, and there's still a great crop of npc normies who aren't troony enough to even fall into hbomberguy's algorithm influence
It won't go away. Youtube isn't a platform for chuds. There are bottom feeding react channels primed and ready for his return so they can suck at HIVbomber's teets when he brings it up again.
You really overestimate the internet's attention span. The catty zoomer losers who care about internet drama have already moved on to some other shit. I guarantee that if IH made a video tomorrow, any of the response tubers trying to shit on him like you say will be met with "old news, who cares?"
This is what I noticed too. Every time a youtuber was confronted with drama and they just said "I'm sorry", or just flat out ignored it, and then moved on with their life, they ended up just fine
Like vaush could've done that and nobody would have cared, but now he escalated that incident to 100x
The Vaush thing is an example of spectacular failure at handling that kind of situation. I fully assumed it was just baseless manufactured drama bullshit but the fact that he was so fricking evasive and completely refused to address anything directly has totally changed my opinion on him.
>I thought they were short adult women even though they look like little girls >I love horse wiener >I like to imagine girls getting fricked by a horse
I don't know why he said those things
I don't know why you wouldn't just come out and unequivocally say "It was a mistake, it was just those few images, and I fully assumed they were adult characters, I'm not remotely into e-girl and I don't have any other images like that" just to clear the air. The horse thing is fricked up but there are other online personalities like YMS who get away with it so it can't be career-breaking.
It's too late to go down the "I'm not dignifying this with a response" route. Everyone's already talking about it and the longer he leaves it the longer it'll take for him to turn people round.
Best part was when he defended it >Uhhhhh, I thought they were shortstacks
Ah. Yes. Shortstacks. Shortstacks that don't even remotely look like shortstacks.
If he said "whatever, cartoon chicks aren't real", took a month off, and came back talking about Biden and Palestine, nothing would've changed. His fans all knew he was into that bullshit anyway, he admitted it on stream dozens of times.
Instead he stayed around to give people more ammunition like saying they "looked like shortstack goblins", acting evasive in a way that would make you assume he likely has worse on his hard drive, and accepting then ducking debates, and as a result h3h3 made a giant 4 hour vaush's worst moments compilation for a very large outside audience to see
[...]
He accidentally opened a folder on screen and the thumbnails for 1 or 2 e-girl images came up
Nothing will happen to him, he's a self admitted FBI informant.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well I don't think anything of his breaks the law, but his reputation and e-clout definitely isn't surviving this, which is the greatest punishment you can give to these "people"
He was doing one of his streams where he lectures his audience about fashion (like he's some authority even though he's only been interested in it for about a year) and was showing examples of clothes on google images, and when he was changing tabs he accidentally flipped to a browser window which contained a load of images/thumbnails of porn he had downloaded and was planning to sort. The thumbnails included e-girl and horses.
If he said "whatever, cartoon chicks aren't real", took a month off, and came back talking about Biden and Palestine, nothing would've changed. His fans all knew he was into that bullshit anyway, he admitted it on stream dozens of times.
Instead he stayed around to give people more ammunition like saying they "looked like shortstack goblins", acting evasive in a way that would make you assume he likely has worse on his hard drive, and accepting then ducking debates, and as a result h3h3 made a giant 4 hour vaush's worst moments compilation for a very large outside audience to see
>Vaush
what did that pedo-grifter do now? did someone find his stash of CP or something?
He accidentally opened a folder on screen and the thumbnails for 1 or 2 e-girl images came up
>If he said "whatever, cartoon chicks aren't real", took a month off, and came back talking about Biden and Palestine, nothing would've changed.
That's not how cancellation works. No one's ever gotten off by downplaying what they did. Whether they get a time out or a termination is a function of how big they are and how illegal the deed. Idk if anyone has gone down for e-girl but US law is pretty unambiguous about it. Pornography depicting minors is illegal, doesn't matter if real or not.
Best part was when he defended it >Uhhhhh, I thought they were shortstacks
Ah. Yes. Shortstacks. Shortstacks that don't even remotely look like shortstacks.
>shortstacks
A daring legal defense. Was the folder marked as e-girl? Ain't no getting around it in that case.
>Pornography depicting minors is illegal, doesn't matter if real or not.
It is an important distinction. It means the difference between a fine or prison.
It is slowly changing however to make cartoons more punishable, however it has thr knock on effect of needing to have low sentences to highlight it isn't real stuff or you then need to begin to increase real sentences.
>>If he said "whatever, cartoon chicks aren't real",
Problem with that is minutes earlier he was saying anime fans are evil nazis because they want to frick children
>balloon boy + the follow up
that fricking family is so full of shit. It was a hoax the whole time and they didn't provide any evidence to the contrary.
the in the field videos are great and some of the funniest ones he makes. The storymode videos are the actual unfunny ones despite probably taking more effort to make.
idk starting a youtube channel seemed to be a pretty good idea for him. Has made him richer and more famous than 99% of people will ever be without even having to show his face.
Probably a lot. NordVPN sponsors his main channel and had made raid shadowlegends ads who are notorious for paying big money for sponsors
I bet he has Patreon too
lol the guy has 4 million subs WITH ad reads and sponsorships. He is raking it in to the point where he's making like one vid every 2-3 months. Youtube is easy money when you're that popular
Never ceases to amaze me how technologically inept some of the boomers here are. Anyone that puts up the numbers that Internet Historian does pretty much never has to work a they in their life anymore.
This. If plagiarism mattered sssniperprostitute would have 0 views. Nobody gives a frick. Seems like he's run out of content though. Everything past the storm area 51 video should be on his shitty secondary channel.
It’s not. That’s probably when his YouTubing career jumped the shark. His other content was great because he’s just repeating facts like a historian. The stupid ass raid segment wasn’t facts, it was stupid entertainment trying to be funny. And it went on for way too long. The internet is already a moronic place, you don’t need to embellish the truth to make it sound dumber than it actually is.
The internet is built upon information being shared, repackaged, copied. That is literally what a meme is. To try and police it with moral grandstanding is useless because ultimately, people take the primary benefits of the video they're watching being entertaining over some arbitrary moral obligation to only credit original authors. Basically Hbomberguy is a brainlet that doesnt understand the internet or content machines.
>Hbomberguy is a brainlet that doesnt understand the internet or content machines.
That rape apologist understands it perfectly, he will literally say or do anything to 'own the chuds'. Just look at his psychopathic fans and the way they act on the youtube comments.
That's true, but as the internet becomes more and more commercialized the matter of authorship becomes more and more relevant. You've got tubers and "react" streamers who are literally millionaires these days, that has never been the case before.
>steals memes
you already look moronic right there. see [...]
Last time I checked, pewdiepie was literally farming Cinemaphile threads for content and selling suka blyat t-shirts. How does it feel to know he's living out his weeaboo fantasies in Japan and drinking expensive sake while (you) do it for free?
No one cares if sssniperwolf does shit because her audience are literal childs, and the youtube communty(sorry i don't know how else to phrase it) has zero expectations from her to not be a moronic thieving prostitute. For whatever reason the community does have much higher expectations for internet historian, and thus he is going to have to deal with the blow back from this. Ultimately it will just blow over after a couple of videos, but the more time he waits the worse its going to be.
Idk if that is true, as far as I understand it was only the man in cave video that was suspect. Everything else he did was fine, so clearly he has the capability to make something original.
30k lefty soicucks unsubscribed in their limp dicked protest a few month ago and the rest of the world moved on.
The controversy only persists in the form of bait threads like this.
It's not plagiarism when she's just reuploading other people's stuff with her face "reacting" to it, plagiarism is passing someone else's work off as your own
So one single person cares about the Internet historian video? Its not plagiarism. Its a news story and he put his own spin on the telling of the story.
3 months ago
Anonymous
his own spin = reading an article near word for word
You can like his videos and still admit he made an extremely lazy video ripped straight from someone else without riding his dick
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah id call it his own spin. He is doing voice acting and animations.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, if you copy pasted the Lord of the Rings and changed a few names around you'd be plagiarizing. Or if you submitted an original pitch or novel to an editor and they published it claiming authorship.
Even assuming every single thing in the IH video was copied, the transformative nature of the video itself takes work. So even if it was copied 1:1 from the article and put in to video form with voices, animations, msuic. If someone animated, voiced, scored and did the art for a full 1:1 copy of the lord of the rings it would not be plagiarizing because translating it from text to screen takes a lot of work and changes the way the story is digested. There are literally videos of people reading LOTR word for word on youtube already.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think the issue is that they dont know what the word means.
3 months ago
Anonymous
"transformative" is an argument for fair use which is an aspect of copyright not plagiarism btw
3 months ago
Anonymous
the article is taken from a non-fiction event with eyewitness testimony that must be repeated in order for the events to be told accurately. There is no plagiarism because there is no "work" done beyond the collection and presentation of information. Its like saying that newspapers are all plagiarizing each other by reporting on the same story with the same snippets of interview.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Collecting and presenting information is work. Newspapers would get in shit for copy/pasting the same article from somewhere else. You fanboys are making yourselves look extremely stupid by saying this stuff
3 months ago
Anonymous
If the president was hit by a car at 120mph and it was in the newspaper tomorrow. How varied do you think the newspaper clips would be in their description of the event? It was an objective event that happened in a certain way. There is bound to be a lot of overlap in describing it. Especially when you bring interviews and singular primary source to the mix.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They would all report the same facts in a different way because there would be no plagiarism involved. Hope this helps!
3 months ago
Anonymous
yeah bro sure they would!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Thats not fair. Thats a link to literal propaganda.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes anon, if a company owns multiple local news channels then theyll often be handed a script from the top down when running stories. This isn't plagiarism.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Most reporters just copy-paste from Reuters and AP with an editorial spin.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I agree with that, but even then, he should have put on a disclaimer saying that the video was a dramatization of the article.
What I don't understand is that, yeah it's one video. But apparently this makes him a nazi, he has no original content and "WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE HE STOLE!?" which are all lies. Why is he singled out in that whole BORING 4 hour video about shit nobody should really care about?
3 months ago
Anonymous
He's a "nazi" because he/his fans made some jokes about israelites
htroonyguy just used the alleged plagiarism as a hit piece to discredit him
3 months ago
Anonymous
>discrediting funny youtube memer
Seems like a pointless endeavour.
3 months ago
Anonymous
When you look like hbomberguy all you have is the internet culture war
3 months ago
Anonymous
oh yeah I forgot that freak donated to that troony cult that was forcing transitions. Did he ever apologize for that (like when people found out he gaslit a rape victim)? Or did he double down?
>freeloading
Dude made a high quality 'movie' with a voiceover. That takes tremendous amount of time and effort.
You're presenting this as if he's literally just reading aloud from an article he "stole" and nothing else.
kys
3 months ago
Anonymous
Damn you're right anon. If we put enough effort into the plagiarism that makes it okay! I'm gonna go make a cartoon adaption of harry potter and put in like, a bunch of effort. I'm sure that'll be okay legally...
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's tons of those out there. It's called parody law
3 months ago
Anonymous
Thats literally how it works you maroon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm on the camp of the people who agree that he plagiarized. However, the animation and voice over are significant contributions to the original script. If the article had been freely available and not tied to copyright, such is the case with Cinemaphile greentexts or creepypasta then it would have been perfectly fine. All he had to do was acknowledge his source and the fact that he was working off that script. It's the "lie by omission" that caused this whole mess.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This. Anyone who’s taken a college English class knows that citing your sources is the difference between plagiarism and an A+ paper. I’ve literally padded out my papers by quoting word for word 3-4 sentences then expanding on it before I move on the next string of quotes and expanding on them. It’s a cheap and easy way to pad out the length of your paper and your professors will fricking love you for being able to cite your sources correctly like it’s some kind of Herculean task that the other morons in your class can’t seem to comprehend.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fricking Purdue APA and mla format of citation. Thank God I didn't go for a lit degree
3 months ago
Anonymous
Exactly. They love that shit. It makes you look well read and like you investigated a lot. Ironically my best papers contained very little in the way of direct quotes, but still, it's a viable tactic and it falls in the "contribution" category.
Yeah, if you copy pasted the Lord of the Rings and changed a few names around you'd be plagiarizing. Or if you submitted an original pitch or novel to an editor and they published it claiming authorship.
not really 1:1 though because the article that IH plagarized was non-fiction (ie an event with objective details that can only be described in X amount of ways if wanted to be accurate) and was based on/included eye-witness interview transcripts which pretty much have to be copied word for word if you want to be accurate.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That argument would hold weight if he didn't use the same phrases word for word as the original article
3 months ago
Anonymous
which were from eyewitness accounts
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not every time, no. He literally just read the article word for word and occasionally sprinkled in some random gag before going back to reading the article
3 months ago
Anonymous
>and sprinked in some random gag
so what you're telling me is that he didnt just read the article word for word? And actually did change some things? Right.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No that's not what I said, you lack reading comprehension and are probably sub 100 IQ
3 months ago
Anonymous
>bro he just read the article word for word! >then he said some other stuff that wasnt in the article >but then he went back to reading it word for word!
3 months ago
Anonymous
But Prof I only copy pasted these two paragraphs from that paper!!!!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>a youtube video is a college thesis
3 months ago
Anonymous
I copied a lot more than that and then I used a website that re phrased it all for me paragraph by paragraph.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's infotainment not research. On YouTube.
Gods I wish old yt were back. These "content creators" take themselves far too seriously. If they want to do real journalism and research then become an actual journalist or writer and publish something on an important topic... Not a 4hr analysis of a SpongeBob audio file or whatever these autistics write about.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>But Prof I only copy pasted these two paragraphs from that paper!!!!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, that's closer to what I said. Glad you could get it on a second read. Proud of you
3 months ago
Anonymous
Still falls under plagiarism. Not copying the entire thing only means you plagiarized less than if you did, but you still plagiarized. Even copying a paragraph without citing it and passing it off as your own is considered plagiarism. It's not like when you use a very common sentence, you have plausible deniability there.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nevertheless, if I wrote a book on Napoleon and lifted an entire chapter out of another biography, it doesn't matter if it's a historical docuemt , it's still passing off another person's work as my own.
3 months ago
Anonymous
except this isnt actually what IH did. He used some of the same phrases and descriptions used in the article, but the video is in no way a 1:1 copy of the article. the transcripts or eyewitness accounts are identical, but they have to be. IH uses jokes, descriptions, structure that arent in the original article.
3 months ago
Anonymous
hope he sees this bro
3 months ago
Anonymous
I did see it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Transcripting eye witnesses is fine, obviously. Those are quotations, they need to be cited to prove you are not making it up, but direct quotation is fine. The problem stems from the narration, which does copy literally from the article instead of simply using it as a framing devise or as a structural guide (which would be kind of weak but not plagiarism).
Yeah the content is internet historian telling the story. Not the story itself. It wasn't plagiarism. Like is someone that was a good voice actor read the Lord of the rings and it got loads of views on YouTube because the voice actor is so good. Maybe its copyright infringement? Can you copyright a news story??
3 months ago
Anonymous
okay lil bro go and read the entire Lord of the Rings and upload it to youtube and see what happens
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah you might get copyright strikes because its copyrighted. No one would call you a plagiariser tho. Only idiots would. >omg that shemale is pretending shim wrote the Lord of the rings!
Thanks. I now understand this story fully and its dumb. People mad at him are dumb and the dumb are to be ignored.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Like is someone that was a good voice actor read the Lord of the rings and it got loads of views on YouTube because the voice actor is so good
There is still an understanding that he didn't write it. Most video essayist write their own essays, which makes it implicit that every video that doesn't credit a source is written by the user who uploaded it. All he had to do was to post a link to the original article, perhaps even getting in touch with the author or the holders of the rights to the article to ask for permission for a dramatization.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah id already see the man in cave story so I knew he didn't write it. Much like how I would know someone didn't write the Lord of the rings.
People upset about this just seem like dumb people to me. Im superior.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you already read the article and knew that he plagiarised it? You don't understand why that's a problem? Seems like you're kinda slow then tbh
3 months ago
Anonymous
But Internet historian didn't put out an article so how can it be plagiarism?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because he read an article word for word and tried to pass it off as his own work
3 months ago
Anonymous
You are some moron hahah
3 months ago
Anonymous
>0 counter argument
I accept your concession. You may now leave another seethepost
>Seems like he's run out of content though
I mean, there is lots of notorious content that he can still cover in his own way, (like for example the r/antiwork shitshow) but the problem is that other youtubers that document internet stuff with less amount of video editing effort have already covered everything to death(from lolcows to internet/irl events), so Internet Historian cannot catch up with his editing style. He tried to be more niche with that wine video, but nobody fricking cares about wines on he internet.
He could do a video about reddit crying over how they cant afford rent and how we got to this point. That would be pretty funny if it was mocking reddit for just being losers.
His HWNDU series was great. Gamergate was so long ago that I don't think it's radioactive to make a video presenting the real story, either. The blowback against Gamergate was the media trying to stomp out an insurrection against one of its less vital tentacles. Then Trump happened and half the country turned on the media. They have so many bigger fires to put out that someone talking about Gamergate without the state approved talking points isn't something they have time to focus on.
Literally released the new video just as this "controversy" was happening, despite usually taking almost a year in between.
No one aside from twitter trannies mad about his Cinemaphile roots above anything else cares about this.
I like how you can see the aftereffects here. >see a bunch of threads on a similar tv show or movie >search for that movie on israelitetube >most recent and popular result is some streamer "deconstructing" the story
100 percent, every time, without fail for like the last 2 years now
>nowadays
It's been going on for ages anon. Half of the gamer gate channels are just people reading the news and laughing at how dumb it is while predicting the doom of their enemies.
oh my god, sister, not the alt-right chud protrump /misc/ gamergate incels, I literally can't even, I need to go back to the discord to take a few deep breath, this raid is over
To be fair he was probably the smallest offender in that hbomb video seeing as how he only plagiarized one video. And you know hbomb made sure to check if there was anything else on him, so him not mentioning means the other videos are fine
Yeah he didn't find anything and decided to harp on about nazi this nazi that. >Oh he's hiding videos! he's a reformed troll! (I know he delisted them for quality on a readily available playlist but this makes him sound more evil)
ironic coming from someone who would sexually harass women back in the SA days.
>*steals memes* >*steals jokes* >*steals talking points from news* >*steals content for upvotes* >*steals credit for things other websites made* >internet historian stole something >WHAAAAAAAAAT? HE...LE STOLE SOMETHING? US REDDITORS WILL NEVER FORGIVE THIS!
>Don't forget they are all pirating video games and TV and pissed off that YouTube isn't free. >b-but it's...LE ETHICAL
redditors wouldn't be so insufferable (just kidding they still would be) if they just admitted their double standards
>steals memes
you already look moronic right there. see
The internet is built upon information being shared, repackaged, copied. That is literally what a meme is. To try and police it with moral grandstanding is useless because ultimately, people take the primary benefits of the video they're watching being entertaining over some arbitrary moral obligation to only credit original authors. Basically Hbomberguy is a brainlet that doesnt understand the internet or content machines.
>make a new in the field video >guest makes a passing joke/remark about the controversy >zoom in on IH with angry eyebrows, angrily mumbling >never mention it again
Hey Alan, I know you're reading this thread and I know you're a Kiwi homosexual who lives in BrisVegas. I'm glad your career is dead and I hope you end up killing yourself over this. You're fricking pathetic and were never funny.
I liked his last of us 2 playthrough and his quick edits and sound bites. The end where he's eating loudly with playing the slide whistle cause he gave up on it was pure kino
Didn't he re-release the cave video with the proper citations? I mean he went about it the right way, fixed the video, said sorry and moved on I guess. Same with James Rolfe, he said he was sorry, made some amends to the issue and moved on. That other (James?) fella only got fricked as hard as he did because he was a SERIAL plagarist and did a shitty apology for it. At least the former two generally did good content and conducted themselves fairly well.
Yes. The company who first claimed his videos could still claim the video and probably defend it in court. They just don't because obviously there's been behind the scenes discussions. They're not offended they were copied, just that they didn't get any money from it.
The real problem for IH isn’t the plagiarism allegations. It’s that he set the standards for his main channel video too high with the Concordia video and now he’s too lazy to try to match the quality with his new videos. I bet it’s the same shit GRRM is going through and why he won’t finish his damn books, just distracting himself with side stories like the Dunk and Egg thing. IH is doing the same shit with Ingonito Mode and his other side channels. They probably have avoidant personality disorder. I should know because I do the exact same shit.
Why is this guy so popular here? His threads are guaranteed replies but he rarely releases videos and no one even seems to talk about his videos anyway
In liked the part where Hbomberguy acts like Youtube's morality police even though he's clearly aware of what PhilosophyTube did to Contrapoints and just kept quiet about it.
not that anon, but there's a strong persistent rumour that pre-trooning PhilosophyTube came on to ContraPoints inappropriately at a con (some stories saying he groped her). I don't think there's any hard evidence for it, but it does seem to align with everyone in that community - who used to be quite friendly with PhilosophyTube, visit him and do collab videos with him - very suddenly cutting him off and now they don't acknowledge his existence. Also ContraPoints said she could easily metoo a fairly popular leftist content creator if she wanted, and on a stream someone asked her about PhilosophyTroon and ContraPoints said something very cold like "that person is no longer a part of my life".
The way I understand the lore, Philosophy tube wanted to frick Contra points and before he trooned out he pushed his luck with contra and got rejected. Then after Philosophy Tube trooned out he started very clearly aping Contra's aesthetic down to the dressup and homosexual lighting as well as constantly retweeting contras to the point people started joking about how he wanted to skinwalk him
Then hontrapoints started tweeting about being creeped on and sexually assaulted by a very big name in the "breadtube" community. Never mentions the other troony but people put two and two together as it was tweeted just after they met face to face.
My favorite part was when he sucked Hamas Piker's wiener live on stream (with his permission) and then proceeded to call everyone who steals content Satan. Funny stuff.
Has there been a blowback from the Vaush thing yet? Don’t care about politics, I just enjoy it when e-celebs burn their online empire to the ground due to a frick up.
Vaush did a stream about 40 mins' after H3's latest stream about it, but he didn't acknowledge the allegations in any material way, acted super evasive and insisted that he just play a videogame and that nobody talk about it.
The real reason Internet Historian stopped posting videos is he’s afraid of being me too’d after he brutally raped Pyrocynical’s bussy after one of their collabs.
He was in the wrong
He should say he fricked up and 'pologize
If he apologizes we can forgive.
If no apology then he's basically saying he did nothing wrong. I don't know I want to watch an alleged "historian" who steals other people's work and won't even do the decent thing and 'pologize and instead tries to manipulate his audience. That's a unsub for me. Plus the last 2 videos were second channel material.
How do you think all the cool kids of YouTube he got to VO feel?
He should at least 'pologize to them
If I was one of those people I would be spitting mad
Hbomberguy should apologise for sitting on his bald ass collecting patreon bucks from his followers and after over a year of silence shitting out one video and it's some petty e-drama thing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
As someone who relies on their creativity to make a living you should know better than to steal someone else's hard work like that.
Then to fricken act a b***h and refuse to own up to your mistake is just fricken shithouse.
What a fricken sook.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you should know better than to steal someone else's hard work >t. socialist
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Steal people's work and think it's ok
You're the socialist kid
3 months ago
Anonymous
>socialism is when I can't steal and take credit for other people's work
Bit of a mouthbreather, aren't you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>socialism is when I can't steal and take credit for other people's work >can't >Bit of a mouthbreather, aren't you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone who cares about plagiarism is a socialist >because uhhhhhhhhhhhh *autistic noises*
3 months ago
Anonymous
you stole my opinion that I posted in a previous IH thread some days ago.... PLAGIARISM! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
3 months ago
Anonymous
You joke, but youtubers straight up stealing entire posts from Cinemaphile is a very widespread thing, and of course people can't say it's plagiarism because Anonymous is Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
P-plagiarismbros... our copypasta response?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not really plagiarism if you offer it for free anonymously. That's renouncing to the recognition of authorship.
3 months ago
Anonymous
T6 is my favorite bed time youtube channel and you homosexuals can't do anything about it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because its just limp critique of a youtuber that does transformative content, but then he throws in some Hitl0r connections as a rallying call for his lefty userbase.
I also found it funny that this happened, and then subsequently lefties were defending the President of Harvard's mass plagiarism.
We don't deserve shit.
And I don't want an apology.
I don't give two shits about this crap.
I want you gays to shut the frick up and stop shitting up the comments.
Afaic, the only one he needs to apologize to is the guy who wrote the article. There's really no reason to single IH out. This is part of a much broader problem. There is no requirement for tubers to source their shit. But if a video game is played, the title is automatically generated by yt. Curious, no?
>HtroonyGay: AS A PROUD SOCIALIST I WILL NOW TAKE A BRAVE STANCE AGAINST PLAGIARISATION OF PRIVATE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY WHEREVER IT REARS ITS UGLY HEAD, PROLETARIANS OF THE GLOBAL SOUTH UNITE >5 seconds later:
between incognito, main channel and storymode he has plenty of content. He is just a very lazy dude with a even lazier aussie net connection. Dont expect terminal online dramaqueens to understand
When i heard he read an article that said survivors were found safe but shivering... and then he STOLE it and said in his video that survivors were found safe but shivering...
When i heard he read an article that said survivors were found safe but shivering... and then he STOLE it and said in his video that survivors were found safe but shivering...
I lost all respect... how could do that?
It wasnt a wikipedia article
It was him copying the entire structure, all the details, specific phrases and even some visual gags.
I should make a e-girl vtuber, use a voice changer and make a youtube channel where I react to his videos for profit.
The InternetReactor.
It's not plagiarism so I'm gucci I assume... also he has several channels so I have hefty amount of content to farm
>e-girl horsegirl vtuber so you can collab with Vaush
Go for it. You don't even need a voice changer, there's a market for e-girl girls that sound like a 35 year old man.
Frick me man being a woman would be the easiest shit ever. Just say some moronic shit and accept donations from simps and you got yourself a living then and there like man why cant this shit be this easy
His fans literally never stop lying, they said at one point he got permission from the original author of the article, then they said it was fair use even though that literally isn’t what fair use is, then they said he “worked it out” with the original author who copyright striked him because he took down his video and uploaded a new one. Somehow, getting caught stealing, being told to stop and never do it again is “working it out” with whoever you stole from. There is no evidence that he, for example, gave the author any ad revenue he received, and he never issued any formal apology or anything. There are no emails or archived messages suggesting he ever got in contact with the original author, both before or after the copyright strike, or that they ever “worked out” anything and to this day no one can provide ANY receipts. He got caught stealing, was threatened with legal action if he didn’t stopped, so he stopped, that isn’t “working out” anything
It's a fricking youtube video. Who gives a shit? If he presented the idea to make a feature length blockbuster film I'd understand the autistic rage over it but all it was was internet guy reads something written by other internet guy. BIG FRICKING DEAL.
So? He read from an article made public. Not behind a paywall, a free to read article from some website no one gives a frick about.
Who gives a shit?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, and presented it as his own writing and idea, without crediting the person who came up with it. You might not care, but he clearly does, because if he didn't, he would've simply been upfront about it, which means he's aware that he's doing something bad
3 months ago
Anonymous
Or he realizes the internet isn't SRS BSNS and doesn't give a frick about morons like you crying over nothing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If that's the case, he would've simply fessed up after the first warning he got. But he didn't, he hid the video instead, and obfuscated the real reason why it was taken down. Because he knew his actions wouldn't be defensible if he came clean so late
3 months ago
Anonymous
>obfuscated the real reason why it was taken down.
what did he say was the reason? also any way to watch original video?
3 months ago
Anonymous
'some issues with copyright' which can be interpreted in a million different ways seeing as how youtube throws those out if you feature even a recording of someone humming certain songs for a few seconds
3 months ago
Anonymous
seems accurate to me.
Or he realizes the internet isn't SRS BSNS and doesn't give a frick about morons like you crying over nothing.
yeah, sounds about right.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He photoshopped the YouTube warning saying it got taken down for blatant plagiarism and said it was about Copyrights saying it got "copystruck"
3 months ago
Anonymous
lmao the internet might not be SRS BSNS for you, random internet moron, but for this Black person its his livelihood, I guarantee you it is very much SRS BSNS for him
>STOP DON'T READ INTERENET ARTICLES FOR YOUR YOOTOOB CHANNEL IT'S LITERALLY A HECKIN VIOLENCE.
Both you homosexuals need to grow up.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Theft is theft, no matter who does. Your pet content creator lied to you, it happens. Be thankful it was only on one video and not 80% of their content output like the rest of the morons featured in hbombs video
3 months ago
Anonymous
lmao the internet might not be SRS BSNS for you, random internet moron, but for this Black person its his livelihood, I guarantee you it is very much SRS BSNS for him
the quality of content in his videos has been slowly diminishing and he's gradually gotten lazier about uploads. he's gotten too rich is probably the biggest problem.
>is openly bisexual >probably consumes onions products >still produces enough testosterone in his body that he starts balding >makes one video and impacts several creators >even gay leftists like himself >makes Cinemaphile seethe
How does he do it
It's over.
His wine one was shit anyway
It Genuinely annoyed me by how bad it was.
Couldn't care less about the commie HBM shit.
I actually enjoyed it, although his simplification of vintage variation and low correlation between price points and quality was sorta inaccurate.
>t. Irl wine salesman
He absolutely was correct. Modern wine is all branding once you get above a certain cost threshold.
Would you watch it if he made one about Chris-chan?
Yes
>far too much to cover to cram into a single video
>even if he does do it, it'll be several hours long, which means nobody get to see it until 10 years from now
What's Cinemaphile's consenus on the internet historian being the idea guy in chris chan lore? they sound awfully similar
He should release a video. What are they going to do to him?
What drama? I'm out of the loop
He dramatically read a well written article on a dude trapped in a cave and pretended it was his own research/prose/work.
unforgivable
AAAA NOO NOT PLAGARISM... ON MY INTERNET... NOO IM GOING INSANE... HOW CAN THIS MAN EVER BE FORGIVEN FOR TAKING A SNIPPET FROM AN ARTICLE AND PUTTING IT IN HIS VIDEO!? WE MUST... WE MUST WHIP HIM. YES, HE NEEDS TO BE WHIPPED. PERHAPS THE BRAZEN BULL WILL STRAIGHTEN HIM OUT.
>snippet
most of it, to be fair
It was the entire article word for word.
It was about 15% of the script of the video, in the middle.
After much moronic checking in an attempt to le own de chuds, no other examples of copy-pasting can be found.
Given that this happened right after he said he was hiding writers to help with longer projects, the conclusion is pretty obvious.
>TAKING A SNIPPET FROM AN ARTICLE
He took all the research from article and did not credit the guy (despite crediting other people). You can project being mad, but if you didn't think it was bad you wouldn't try so hard to downplay it.
>He took all the research from article and did not credit the guy (despite crediting other people)
this is based
huh, that is weird. Maybe he had some kind of personal grudge against the article author
some bald bisexual bullied him off the internet lmao
Don't understand why youtubers cant just ignore drama and continue as normal. What are people gonna do, sperg in the comments? wow
I think it's hilarious all the breadtubers are pissed off because he won't comment on it. They thrive on a response, which can only do you harm.
IH stole, doesn't give a shit, and neither do his audience
>IH stole, doesn't give a shit, and neither do his audience
They sound pretty defensive though...
When someone has already killed you its a bit late to defend yourself
>They sound pretty defensive though...
He stole from some Israeli media company, I don't think his audience cares one bit
This is literally what he's doing. That's the cheat code to avoiding cancellation - you acknowledge nothing, lie low for months, then come back like nothing had happened. The people who have been turned by the initial drama aren't coming back anyways so why bother acknowledge them. The people on the fence of the drama only serve to be alienated by any defense you make. Your fans are your fans, and there's still a great crop of npc normies who aren't troony enough to even fall into hbomberguy's algorithm influence
It won't go away. Youtube isn't a platform for chuds. There are bottom feeding react channels primed and ready for his return so they can suck at HIVbomber's teets when he brings it up again.
You really overestimate the internet's attention span. The catty zoomer losers who care about internet drama have already moved on to some other shit. I guarantee that if IH made a video tomorrow, any of the response tubers trying to shit on him like you say will be met with "old news, who cares?"
>chuds
Antisemitic slur
shut up newbie. Go back to sucking dick for money like you're used to
Logan Paul did that fricking suicide forest video in an ayy lmao hat, and he recovered quick enough
This is what I noticed too. Every time a youtuber was confronted with drama and they just said "I'm sorry", or just flat out ignored it, and then moved on with their life, they ended up just fine
Like vaush could've done that and nobody would have cared, but now he escalated that incident to 100x
The Vaush thing is an example of spectacular failure at handling that kind of situation. I fully assumed it was just baseless manufactured drama bullshit but the fact that he was so fricking evasive and completely refused to address anything directly has totally changed my opinion on him.
>I thought they were short adult women even though they look like little girls
>I love horse wiener
>I like to imagine girls getting fricked by a horse
I don't know why he said those things
I don't know why you wouldn't just come out and unequivocally say "It was a mistake, it was just those few images, and I fully assumed they were adult characters, I'm not remotely into e-girl and I don't have any other images like that" just to clear the air. The horse thing is fricked up but there are other online personalities like YMS who get away with it so it can't be career-breaking.
It's too late to go down the "I'm not dignifying this with a response" route. Everyone's already talking about it and the longer he leaves it the longer it'll take for him to turn people round.
>Vaush
what did that pedo-grifter do now? did someone find his stash of CP or something?
Displayed his horse wiener/e-girl porn folder on stream
Best part was when he defended it
>Uhhhhh, I thought they were shortstacks
Ah. Yes. Shortstacks. Shortstacks that don't even remotely look like shortstacks.
Nothing will happen to him, he's a self admitted FBI informant.
Well I don't think anything of his breaks the law, but his reputation and e-clout definitely isn't surviving this, which is the greatest punishment you can give to these "people"
He was doing one of his streams where he lectures his audience about fashion (like he's some authority even though he's only been interested in it for about a year) and was showing examples of clothes on google images, and when he was changing tabs he accidentally flipped to a browser window which contained a load of images/thumbnails of porn he had downloaded and was planning to sort. The thumbnails included e-girl and horses.
Vaush was caught with pics of e-girls getting fricked by horses. There’s no moving on from that.
I don't know if this is worse, but it was an image of two e-girls drinking horse cum out of a bucket with the horcse wiener in it
If he said "whatever, cartoon chicks aren't real", took a month off, and came back talking about Biden and Palestine, nothing would've changed. His fans all knew he was into that bullshit anyway, he admitted it on stream dozens of times.
Instead he stayed around to give people more ammunition like saying they "looked like shortstack goblins", acting evasive in a way that would make you assume he likely has worse on his hard drive, and accepting then ducking debates, and as a result h3h3 made a giant 4 hour vaush's worst moments compilation for a very large outside audience to see
He accidentally opened a folder on screen and the thumbnails for 1 or 2 e-girl images came up
>If he said "whatever, cartoon chicks aren't real", took a month off, and came back talking about Biden and Palestine, nothing would've changed.
That's not how cancellation works. No one's ever gotten off by downplaying what they did. Whether they get a time out or a termination is a function of how big they are and how illegal the deed. Idk if anyone has gone down for e-girl but US law is pretty unambiguous about it. Pornography depicting minors is illegal, doesn't matter if real or not.
>shortstacks
A daring legal defense. Was the folder marked as e-girl? Ain't no getting around it in that case.
>Pornography depicting minors is illegal, doesn't matter if real or not.
It is an important distinction. It means the difference between a fine or prison.
It is slowly changing however to make cartoons more punishable, however it has thr knock on effect of needing to have low sentences to highlight it isn't real stuff or you then need to begin to increase real sentences.
>>If he said "whatever, cartoon chicks aren't real",
Problem with that is minutes earlier he was saying anime fans are evil nazis because they want to frick children
they go after their sponsors
no sponsors = no videos
in theory they could make more videos
but why should they?
He has regularly been sponsored by Raid Shadow: Legends.
Raid doesn't care about anything.
SunnyV did it, frick the trannies.
I'm fairly certain that's what's happening with him rn. he's just working on a video
>those videos where he has other morons join in, hyena laughing every ten seconds, ruining the entire video
>you know he only does it because he's too lazy to make a proper video
frick this lazy homosexual, he hasn't made a good video since his last Cinemaphile one that he made like 10,000 years ago
The only good videos he ever did were literally just explaining Cinemaphile memes for redditors.
Nah cost of concordia and balloon boy + the follow up was really good. In fact balloon boy was real investigative journalism.
He plagiarized those as well.
Who cares. My phd thesis is plagiarised
So? He is more entertaining that whoever did it first or else nobody would watch his videos
literally not true
>real investigative journalism
So he called the guy, whoah that's fricking amazing!
Yes, the bar for journalism is that low.
>Giving air to the scam artist to spin yarns is investigative journalism!
Zoomers are so easily impressed
>balloon boy + the follow up
that fricking family is so full of shit. It was a hoax the whole time and they didn't provide any evidence to the contrary.
T. Bootlicker
If you heard all that and think it was still pure hoax you're a moron
Concordia was like four years ago.
the in the field videos are great and some of the funniest ones he makes. The storymode videos are the actual unfunny ones despite probably taking more effort to make.
That's your fault for watching his shitty secondary channel. You caused this.
He's just a lazy chud who didn't have any good ideas of his own.
idk starting a youtube channel seemed to be a pretty good idea for him. Has made him richer and more famous than 99% of people will ever be without even having to show his face.
i hope she sees this bro
Thanks bro, I appreciate it
>Has made him richer and more famous than 99% of people will ever be without even having to show his face.
How much money do you even make with his level of popularity? I doubt he quit his day job.
Enough to quit his day job
Probably a lot. NordVPN sponsors his main channel and had made raid shadowlegends ads who are notorious for paying big money for sponsors
I bet he has Patreon too
lol the guy has 4 million subs WITH ad reads and sponsorships. He is raking it in to the point where he's making like one vid every 2-3 months. Youtube is easy money when you're that popular
Jim never had a job
>I doubt he quit his day job.
i see you also fell for the "youtubers dont make much money" meme
this guy makes 10k month minimum
Never ceases to amaze me how technologically inept some of the boomers here are. Anyone that puts up the numbers that Internet Historian does pretty much never has to work a they in their life anymore.
This. If plagiarism mattered sssniperprostitute would have 0 views. Nobody gives a frick. Seems like he's run out of content though. Everything past the storm area 51 video should be on his shitty secondary channel.
>storm area 51 video
An underrated masterpiece. The live recreation footage of the raid at the end of the film is worthy of Cannes
It’s not. That’s probably when his YouTubing career jumped the shark. His other content was great because he’s just repeating facts like a historian. The stupid ass raid segment wasn’t facts, it was stupid entertainment trying to be funny. And it went on for way too long. The internet is already a moronic place, you don’t need to embellish the truth to make it sound dumber than it actually is.
The internet is built upon information being shared, repackaged, copied. That is literally what a meme is. To try and police it with moral grandstanding is useless because ultimately, people take the primary benefits of the video they're watching being entertaining over some arbitrary moral obligation to only credit original authors. Basically Hbomberguy is a brainlet that doesnt understand the internet or content machines.
>Hbomberguy is a brainlet that doesnt understand the internet or content machines.
That rape apologist understands it perfectly, he will literally say or do anything to 'own the chuds'. Just look at his psychopathic fans and the way they act on the youtube comments.
Show me where his "fans" have been psychopathic
Sure thing
They're tankie scum.
Done.
Nice retort, for a fricking moron. Glad you literally don't have any evidence. Enjoy being wrong and killing yourself in the near future
Tanky melty detected
>t. hhomosexualguy dickriding commie redditor
Didn't they literally break into James Somerton's house a few days ago?
sauce?
That's true, but as the internet becomes more and more commercialized the matter of authorship becomes more and more relevant. You've got tubers and "react" streamers who are literally millionaires these days, that has never been the case before.
Last time I checked, pewdiepie was literally farming Cinemaphile threads for content and selling suka blyat t-shirts. How does it feel to know he's living out his weeaboo fantasies in Japan and drinking expensive sake while (you) do it for free?
No one cares if sssniperwolf does shit because her audience are literal childs, and the youtube communty(sorry i don't know how else to phrase it) has zero expectations from her to not be a moronic thieving prostitute. For whatever reason the community does have much higher expectations for internet historian, and thus he is going to have to deal with the blow back from this. Ultimately it will just blow over after a couple of videos, but the more time he waits the worse its going to be.
He would have to do something original which is impossible for him
Idk if that is true, as far as I understand it was only the man in cave video that was suspect. Everything else he did was fine, so clearly he has the capability to make something original.
30k lefty soicucks unsubscribed in their limp dicked protest a few month ago and the rest of the world moved on.
The controversy only persists in the form of bait threads like this.
It's not plagiarism when she's just reuploading other people's stuff with her face "reacting" to it, plagiarism is passing someone else's work off as your own
Why would anyone care if a youtuber plagiarised something? This isnt academia. Its entertainment.
Is plagiarism even a thing in entertainment?
People care when other people make money freeloading off their stuff
Are reaction youtubers not doing the exact same thing?
yes but it's not plagiarism per se and people are also against no effort reaction youtubers like sssniperwolf
So one single person cares about the Internet historian video? Its not plagiarism. Its a news story and he put his own spin on the telling of the story.
his own spin = reading an article near word for word
You can like his videos and still admit he made an extremely lazy video ripped straight from someone else without riding his dick
Yeah id call it his own spin. He is doing voice acting and animations.
Even assuming every single thing in the IH video was copied, the transformative nature of the video itself takes work. So even if it was copied 1:1 from the article and put in to video form with voices, animations, msuic. If someone animated, voiced, scored and did the art for a full 1:1 copy of the lord of the rings it would not be plagiarizing because translating it from text to screen takes a lot of work and changes the way the story is digested. There are literally videos of people reading LOTR word for word on youtube already.
I think the issue is that they dont know what the word means.
"transformative" is an argument for fair use which is an aspect of copyright not plagiarism btw
the article is taken from a non-fiction event with eyewitness testimony that must be repeated in order for the events to be told accurately. There is no plagiarism because there is no "work" done beyond the collection and presentation of information. Its like saying that newspapers are all plagiarizing each other by reporting on the same story with the same snippets of interview.
Collecting and presenting information is work. Newspapers would get in shit for copy/pasting the same article from somewhere else. You fanboys are making yourselves look extremely stupid by saying this stuff
If the president was hit by a car at 120mph and it was in the newspaper tomorrow. How varied do you think the newspaper clips would be in their description of the event? It was an objective event that happened in a certain way. There is bound to be a lot of overlap in describing it. Especially when you bring interviews and singular primary source to the mix.
They would all report the same facts in a different way because there would be no plagiarism involved. Hope this helps!
yeah bro sure they would!
Thats not fair. Thats a link to literal propaganda.
Yes anon, if a company owns multiple local news channels then theyll often be handed a script from the top down when running stories. This isn't plagiarism.
Most reporters just copy-paste from Reuters and AP with an editorial spin.
I agree with that, but even then, he should have put on a disclaimer saying that the video was a dramatization of the article.
What I don't understand is that, yeah it's one video. But apparently this makes him a nazi, he has no original content and "WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE HE STOLE!?" which are all lies. Why is he singled out in that whole BORING 4 hour video about shit nobody should really care about?
He's a "nazi" because he/his fans made some jokes about israelites
htroonyguy just used the alleged plagiarism as a hit piece to discredit him
>discrediting funny youtube memer
Seems like a pointless endeavour.
When you look like hbomberguy all you have is the internet culture war
oh yeah I forgot that freak donated to that troony cult that was forcing transitions. Did he ever apologize for that (like when people found out he gaslit a rape victim)? Or did he double down?
>freeloading
Dude made a high quality 'movie' with a voiceover. That takes tremendous amount of time and effort.
You're presenting this as if he's literally just reading aloud from an article he "stole" and nothing else.
kys
Damn you're right anon. If we put enough effort into the plagiarism that makes it okay! I'm gonna go make a cartoon adaption of harry potter and put in like, a bunch of effort. I'm sure that'll be okay legally...
There's tons of those out there. It's called parody law
Thats literally how it works you maroon.
I'm on the camp of the people who agree that he plagiarized. However, the animation and voice over are significant contributions to the original script. If the article had been freely available and not tied to copyright, such is the case with Cinemaphile greentexts or creepypasta then it would have been perfectly fine. All he had to do was acknowledge his source and the fact that he was working off that script. It's the "lie by omission" that caused this whole mess.
This. Anyone who’s taken a college English class knows that citing your sources is the difference between plagiarism and an A+ paper. I’ve literally padded out my papers by quoting word for word 3-4 sentences then expanding on it before I move on the next string of quotes and expanding on them. It’s a cheap and easy way to pad out the length of your paper and your professors will fricking love you for being able to cite your sources correctly like it’s some kind of Herculean task that the other morons in your class can’t seem to comprehend.
Fricking Purdue APA and mla format of citation. Thank God I didn't go for a lit degree
Exactly. They love that shit. It makes you look well read and like you investigated a lot. Ironically my best papers contained very little in the way of direct quotes, but still, it's a viable tactic and it falls in the "contribution" category.
Yeah, if you copy pasted the Lord of the Rings and changed a few names around you'd be plagiarizing. Or if you submitted an original pitch or novel to an editor and they published it claiming authorship.
not really 1:1 though because the article that IH plagarized was non-fiction (ie an event with objective details that can only be described in X amount of ways if wanted to be accurate) and was based on/included eye-witness interview transcripts which pretty much have to be copied word for word if you want to be accurate.
That argument would hold weight if he didn't use the same phrases word for word as the original article
which were from eyewitness accounts
Not every time, no. He literally just read the article word for word and occasionally sprinkled in some random gag before going back to reading the article
>and sprinked in some random gag
so what you're telling me is that he didnt just read the article word for word? And actually did change some things? Right.
No that's not what I said, you lack reading comprehension and are probably sub 100 IQ
>bro he just read the article word for word!
>then he said some other stuff that wasnt in the article
>but then he went back to reading it word for word!
But Prof I only copy pasted these two paragraphs from that paper!!!!
>a youtube video is a college thesis
I copied a lot more than that and then I used a website that re phrased it all for me paragraph by paragraph.
It's infotainment not research. On YouTube.
Gods I wish old yt were back. These "content creators" take themselves far too seriously. If they want to do real journalism and research then become an actual journalist or writer and publish something on an important topic... Not a 4hr analysis of a SpongeBob audio file or whatever these autistics write about.
>But Prof I only copy pasted these two paragraphs from that paper!!!!
Yes, that's closer to what I said. Glad you could get it on a second read. Proud of you
Still falls under plagiarism. Not copying the entire thing only means you plagiarized less than if you did, but you still plagiarized. Even copying a paragraph without citing it and passing it off as your own is considered plagiarism. It's not like when you use a very common sentence, you have plausible deniability there.
Nevertheless, if I wrote a book on Napoleon and lifted an entire chapter out of another biography, it doesn't matter if it's a historical docuemt , it's still passing off another person's work as my own.
except this isnt actually what IH did. He used some of the same phrases and descriptions used in the article, but the video is in no way a 1:1 copy of the article. the transcripts or eyewitness accounts are identical, but they have to be. IH uses jokes, descriptions, structure that arent in the original article.
hope he sees this bro
I did see it.
Transcripting eye witnesses is fine, obviously. Those are quotations, they need to be cited to prove you are not making it up, but direct quotation is fine. The problem stems from the narration, which does copy literally from the article instead of simply using it as a framing devise or as a structural guide (which would be kind of weak but not plagiarism).
Yeah the content is internet historian telling the story. Not the story itself. It wasn't plagiarism. Like is someone that was a good voice actor read the Lord of the rings and it got loads of views on YouTube because the voice actor is so good. Maybe its copyright infringement? Can you copyright a news story??
okay lil bro go and read the entire Lord of the Rings and upload it to youtube and see what happens
Yeah you might get copyright strikes because its copyrighted. No one would call you a plagiariser tho. Only idiots would.
>omg that shemale is pretending shim wrote the Lord of the rings!
Thanks. I now understand this story fully and its dumb. People mad at him are dumb and the dumb are to be ignored.
>Like is someone that was a good voice actor read the Lord of the rings and it got loads of views on YouTube because the voice actor is so good
There is still an understanding that he didn't write it. Most video essayist write their own essays, which makes it implicit that every video that doesn't credit a source is written by the user who uploaded it. All he had to do was to post a link to the original article, perhaps even getting in touch with the author or the holders of the rights to the article to ask for permission for a dramatization.
Yeah id already see the man in cave story so I knew he didn't write it. Much like how I would know someone didn't write the Lord of the rings.
People upset about this just seem like dumb people to me. Im superior.
So you already read the article and knew that he plagiarised it? You don't understand why that's a problem? Seems like you're kinda slow then tbh
But Internet historian didn't put out an article so how can it be plagiarism?
Because he read an article word for word and tried to pass it off as his own work
You are some moron hahah
>0 counter argument
I accept your concession. You may now leave another seethepost
>Seems like he's run out of content though
I mean, there is lots of notorious content that he can still cover in his own way, (like for example the r/antiwork shitshow) but the problem is that other youtubers that document internet stuff with less amount of video editing effort have already covered everything to death(from lolcows to internet/irl events), so Internet Historian cannot catch up with his editing style. He tried to be more niche with that wine video, but nobody fricking cares about wines on he internet.
He could do a video about reddit crying over how they cant afford rent and how we got to this point. That would be pretty funny if it was mocking reddit for just being losers.
I thought his style was all that mattered
Plagiarism or not his videos are generally good
>Seems like he's run out of content though.
There's one he could make: Gamergate. That should rattle the frick out of everybody I'd imagine.
His HWNDU series was great. Gamergate was so long ago that I don't think it's radioactive to make a video presenting the real story, either. The blowback against Gamergate was the media trying to stomp out an insurrection against one of its less vital tentacles. Then Trump happened and half the country turned on the media. They have so many bigger fires to put out that someone talking about Gamergate without the state approved talking points isn't something they have time to focus on.
basically this, if he plagiarized some nobody that wasn't gonna get any views anyway, who cares
plagiarism=seethingtroony
Most yputubers just read off wikipedia articles despite never citing sources. Why is that fine. It this isnt?
Commies defending intellectual property right lmao
Literally released the new video just as this "controversy" was happening, despite usually taking almost a year in between.
No one aside from twitter trannies mad about his Cinemaphile roots above anything else cares about this.
They don't understand that to a channer it's a point of pride that you ripped off someone else's work and got paid for it.
Being an eceleb homosexual is not a source of pride newbie
>in an eceleb thread
>on a celeb board
>mad for no reason
I bet you really proud of yourself
Those videos were a series planned in advance, he was supposed to have had 2 or 3 more out by now but he stopped.
I like watching him fail because he is an obvious crypto chud who used to insert pro trump memes into everything before his channel took off
how come this chink reads an article in front of people word for word but never called out.
that's his whole schtick. he browses articles and read it out loud.
>Talking shit about the voice of kiryu
He'll beat your ass man better watch out
he never pretends he isn't just reading an article
Because he literally links the articles in the description and people don't think he's doing secondary research.
Learn comprehension, homosexual!
Is this really what zoomies watch nowadays? Just somebody reading something and then telling them how they should feel about it? Frickin grim dude
Yes. It's why moistcritikal got popular even though all he does is give cold takes in a monotone voice.
I like how you can see the aftereffects here.
>see a bunch of threads on a similar tv show or movie
>search for that movie on israelitetube
>most recent and popular result is some streamer "deconstructing" the story
100 percent, every time, without fail for like the last 2 years now
>tells us how to feel about it
zoomie detected. you should feel embarrassed and ashamed.
>nowadays
It's been going on for ages anon. Half of the gamer gate channels are just people reading the news and laughing at how dumb it is while predicting the doom of their enemies.
not trying to defend this homosexual, but news anchors have been doing this since the invention of the newsroom sans the autism, Anon.
https://trello.com/b/djWbWhAf/video-status
>2 7/8 video
Any minute now! Surely it's not bullshit
I failed remedial math. I'm 29 now and still don't have beyond a grade 10 education
oh my god, sister, not the alt-right chud protrump /misc/ gamergate incels, I literally can't even, I need to go back to the discord to take a few deep breath, this raid is over
He should do a video on Belle Delphine. She trolled so many people for years.
He should make more videos like the concordia one. And since I'm not a leftist I don’t give a shit where he steals the information from
good
stupid plagiarizing homosexual's content was getting shittier with each upload anyway
To be fair he was probably the smallest offender in that hbomb video seeing as how he only plagiarized one video. And you know hbomb made sure to check if there was anything else on him, so him not mentioning means the other videos are fine
Yeah he didn't find anything and decided to harp on about nazi this nazi that.
>Oh he's hiding videos! he's a reformed troll! (I know he delisted them for quality on a readily available playlist but this makes him sound more evil)
ironic coming from someone who would sexually harass women back in the SA days.
It wasn't really a surprise to discover his fanbase was primarily 12-year-old /b/tards.
These videos were always shit and every channel like it was always bad.
It's literally so low effort. He has a shitty voice, his editing sucks and barely comes up with original or interesting jokes.
Nothing of value was lost.
It was literally just "epic Cinemaphile thread: for normies".
Based Hbomberchad
>*steals memes*
>*steals jokes*
>*steals talking points from news*
>*steals content for upvotes*
>*steals credit for things other websites made*
>internet historian stole something
>WHAAAAAAAAAT? HE...LE STOLE SOMETHING? US REDDITORS WILL NEVER FORGIVE THIS!
Don't forget they are all pirating video games and TV and pissed off that YouTube isn't free.
Maybe its because I pirate things from the grocery store that this IH drama doesn't seem like a big deal.
>Don't forget they are all pirating video games and TV and pissed off that YouTube isn't free.
>b-but it's...LE ETHICAL
redditors wouldn't be so insufferable (just kidding they still would be) if they just admitted their double standards
>steals memes
you already look moronic right there. see
He creates like 1 video a year
>make a new in the field video
>guest makes a passing joke/remark about the controversy
>zoom in on IH with angry eyebrows, angrily mumbling
>never mention it again
Exterminate eceleb worshippers.
Didn't he release one like a month ago?
>internet historian is suing the plebbitor who stickied the "IH is a LE NAZI" post on the youtube drama subreddit
holy BASED
Hey Alan, I know you're reading this thread and I know you're a Kiwi homosexual who lives in BrisVegas. I'm glad your career is dead and I hope you end up killing yourself over this. You're fricking pathetic and were never funny.
I liked his last of us 2 playthrough and his quick edits and sound bites. The end where he's eating loudly with playing the slide whistle cause he gave up on it was pure kino
So basically, he's a hack, but he's a hack who agrees somewhat with you, so he's based.
Didn't he re-release the cave video with the proper citations? I mean he went about it the right way, fixed the video, said sorry and moved on I guess. Same with James Rolfe, he said he was sorry, made some amends to the issue and moved on. That other (James?) fella only got fricked as hard as he did because he was a SERIAL plagarist and did a shitty apology for it. At least the former two generally did good content and conducted themselves fairly well.
Yes. The company who first claimed his videos could still claim the video and probably defend it in court. They just don't because obviously there's been behind the scenes discussions. They're not offended they were copied, just that they didn't get any money from it.
The real problem for IH isn’t the plagiarism allegations. It’s that he set the standards for his main channel video too high with the Concordia video and now he’s too lazy to try to match the quality with his new videos. I bet it’s the same shit GRRM is going through and why he won’t finish his damn books, just distracting himself with side stories like the Dunk and Egg thing. IH is doing the same shit with Ingonito Mode and his other side channels. They probably have avoidant personality disorder. I should know because I do the exact same shit.
*he
you pathetic troon homosexual
Why is this guy so popular here? His threads are guaranteed replies but he rarely releases videos and no one even seems to talk about his videos anyway
His videos are good
lmao who the frick is vaush
A beastiality e-girl lover, weird thing for him to admit
I love that part in hbomber video where he tries explaining why plagiarising is bad by making one callback joke and moving on
In liked the part where Hbomberguy acts like Youtube's morality police even though he's clearly aware of what PhilosophyTube did to Contrapoints and just kept quiet about it.
What did PhilosophyTube do to Contrapoints?
not that anon, but there's a strong persistent rumour that pre-trooning PhilosophyTube came on to ContraPoints inappropriately at a con (some stories saying he groped her). I don't think there's any hard evidence for it, but it does seem to align with everyone in that community - who used to be quite friendly with PhilosophyTube, visit him and do collab videos with him - very suddenly cutting him off and now they don't acknowledge his existence. Also ContraPoints said she could easily metoo a fairly popular leftist content creator if she wanted, and on a stream someone asked her about PhilosophyTroon and ContraPoints said something very cold like "that person is no longer a part of my life".
>her
>she
The way I understand the lore, Philosophy tube wanted to frick Contra points and before he trooned out he pushed his luck with contra and got rejected. Then after Philosophy Tube trooned out he started very clearly aping Contra's aesthetic down to the dressup and homosexual lighting as well as constantly retweeting contras to the point people started joking about how he wanted to skinwalk him
Then hontrapoints started tweeting about being creeped on and sexually assaulted by a very big name in the "breadtube" community. Never mentions the other troony but people put two and two together as it was tweeted just after they met face to face.
My favorite part was when he sucked Hamas Piker's wiener live on stream (with his permission) and then proceeded to call everyone who steals content Satan. Funny stuff.
>Milesiantube linked up with antithesis
Who, wha,t whom-, and whenstever?
Has there been a blowback from the Vaush thing yet? Don’t care about politics, I just enjoy it when e-celebs burn their online empire to the ground due to a frick up.
Vaush did a stream about 40 mins' after H3's latest stream about it, but he didn't acknowledge the allegations in any material way, acted super evasive and insisted that he just play a videogame and that nobody talk about it.
The real reason Internet Historian stopped posting videos is he’s afraid of being me too’d after he brutally raped Pyrocynical’s bussy after one of their collabs.
>He had a 14/88 joke in a video, he's a fricking nazi! AHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME HARRIS
Gay
Since this is the eceleb thread what happened with that one guy who was asking for feet pics or whateve
Infinitely better and more in depth, I like shitstorian but everything is just surface level
Is he gonna upload more regularly now after the Eve Online video?
too busy vtubing as a wolf furry
Hbomber guy having trolls remorse is so funny. Bet he never talked about the SA days
He should come clean
Apologize
And move on
No, never apologize.
Never show weakness.
He was in the wrong
He should say he fricked up and 'pologize
If he apologizes we can forgive.
If no apology then he's basically saying he did nothing wrong. I don't know I want to watch an alleged "historian" who steals other people's work and won't even do the decent thing and 'pologize and instead tries to manipulate his audience. That's a unsub for me. Plus the last 2 videos were second channel material.
How do you think all the cool kids of YouTube he got to VO feel?
He should at least 'pologize to them
If I was one of those people I would be spitting mad
>he was wrong
Accusation came from a socialist so he objectively did nothing wrong. Simple as.
No.
Apologizing to leftists only fuels their moral crusade vs you
How about apologizing to his actual subs and the other actors in his video.
Don't we deserve an apology?
No, nice try trannoid.
Continue sitting in the timeout corner acting a fricking b***h then.
I'm going to do that.
Cope and seethe.
Hbomber should apologize for his physiognomy
Hbomberguy should apologise for sitting on his bald ass collecting patreon bucks from his followers and after over a year of silence shitting out one video and it's some petty e-drama thing.
As someone who relies on their creativity to make a living you should know better than to steal someone else's hard work like that.
Then to fricken act a b***h and refuse to own up to your mistake is just fricken shithouse.
What a fricken sook.
>you should know better than to steal someone else's hard work
>t. socialist
>Steal people's work and think it's ok
You're the socialist kid
>socialism is when I can't steal and take credit for other people's work
Bit of a mouthbreather, aren't you?
>socialism is when I can't steal and take credit for other people's work
>can't
>Bit of a mouthbreather, aren't you?
>everyone who cares about plagiarism is a socialist
>because uhhhhhhhhhhhh *autistic noises*
you stole my opinion that I posted in a previous IH thread some days ago.... PLAGIARISM! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You joke, but youtubers straight up stealing entire posts from Cinemaphile is a very widespread thing, and of course people can't say it's plagiarism because Anonymous is Anonymous
P-plagiarismbros... our copypasta response?
It's not really plagiarism if you offer it for free anonymously. That's renouncing to the recognition of authorship.
T6 is my favorite bed time youtube channel and you homosexuals can't do anything about it.
Because its just limp critique of a youtuber that does transformative content, but then he throws in some Hitl0r connections as a rallying call for his lefty userbase.
I also found it funny that this happened, and then subsequently lefties were defending the President of Harvard's mass plagiarism.
He returned the money
He posted a MYST video tho.
We don't deserve shit.
And I don't want an apology.
I don't give two shits about this crap.
I want you gays to shut the frick up and stop shitting up the comments.
Release the next video IH.
Afaic, the only one he needs to apologize to is the guy who wrote the article. There's really no reason to single IH out. This is part of a much broader problem. There is no requirement for tubers to source their shit. But if a video game is played, the title is automatically generated by yt. Curious, no?
Yes, apologise.
Show me your blood
There was probably some blowback with his sponsors. Thats why he hasnt uploading another video for that series
>HtroonyGay: AS A PROUD SOCIALIST I WILL NOW TAKE A BRAVE STANCE AGAINST PLAGIARISATION OF PRIVATE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY WHEREVER IT REARS ITS UGLY HEAD, PROLETARIANS OF THE GLOBAL SOUTH UNITE
>5 seconds later:
and?
Why did you cut that black guy on the right out of the picture?
To be fair he is dealing with the ManyKudos, Dankpods and Minimme accusations
ManyKudos? What did he do now? Be annoningly Kiwi?
All three of them were found to be arranging fan gangbangs
Fans of morons should be gangbanged, regardless of consent.
between incognito, main channel and storymode he has plenty of content. He is just a very lazy dude with a even lazier aussie net connection. Dont expect terminal online dramaqueens to understand
Who the frick is that in the pic?
piece of history for the lazy frick in OPs pic to draw material for his next vid
When i heard he read an article that said survivors were found safe but shivering... and then he STOLE it and said in his video that survivors were found safe but shivering...
I lost all respect... how could do that?
you didn't hear that because he had to take the video down
>How could a youtuber just read a wikipedia article...
They all do this. Jumping on IH is just moronic
>NO NOT MY ALT RIGHT DOGWHISTLE YOUTUBER
Get over it
I got over it, accusation came from astroturfed socialist cụck, so it was immediately and in its entirety discarded.
And everyone who does that is a hack.
It wasnt a wikipedia article
It was him copying the entire structure, all the details, specific phrases and even some visual gags.
>this guy who releases three videos a year hasn't released a video in two months, how could this happen?
He started a series (8 vids), he had a schedule for it but something has clearly thrown a spanner in the works.
Who cares, his shit is gay now
You wouldn't plagiarize an article and turn it into a youtube video.
You wouldn't download a car
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A HANDBAG
I should make a e-girl vtuber, use a voice changer and make a youtube channel where I react to his videos for profit.
The InternetReactor.
It's not plagiarism so I'm gucci I assume... also he has several channels so I have hefty amount of content to farm
>e-girl horsegirl vtuber so you can collab with Vaush
i unironically want vaush to get shot i can't fricking stand that moronic homosexual and his even more moronic audience
Go for it. You don't even need a voice changer, there's a market for e-girl girls that sound like a 35 year old man.
Frick me man being a woman would be the easiest shit ever. Just say some moronic shit and accept donations from simps and you got yourself a living then and there like man why cant this shit be this easy
It's so over.
Who will read me bedtime stories from in flight magazines noe?
He got caught plagiarizing and is a confirmed chud, it’s ogre
It is kinda lame that all he had to do was add a little thing clarifying he was basing it all on the article
i wonder if he'll ever do a video about internethistorian getting caught plagiarizing
>"Well you see, all started when I begun reading an article..."
That'd be a pretty good bit honestly
The episode he did about the future with JohnTron was funny as frick.
His fans literally never stop lying, they said at one point he got permission from the original author of the article, then they said it was fair use even though that literally isn’t what fair use is, then they said he “worked it out” with the original author who copyright striked him because he took down his video and uploaded a new one. Somehow, getting caught stealing, being told to stop and never do it again is “working it out” with whoever you stole from. There is no evidence that he, for example, gave the author any ad revenue he received, and he never issued any formal apology or anything. There are no emails or archived messages suggesting he ever got in contact with the original author, both before or after the copyright strike, or that they ever “worked out” anything and to this day no one can provide ANY receipts. He got caught stealing, was threatened with legal action if he didn’t stopped, so he stopped, that isn’t “working out” anything
Dude, quickly, call the police but also ACAB lol.
>Yeah I got caught stealing this ham, but I “worked it out” with the police so it’s okay, I didn’t actually steal
>officer officer, arrest that man he stole my words, I want them back!
>brainlet struggling with the idea of plagiarism
Sad!
It's a fricking youtube video. Who gives a shit? If he presented the idea to make a feature length blockbuster film I'd understand the autistic rage over it but all it was was internet guy reads something written by other internet guy. BIG FRICKING DEAL.
He's getting a ton of revenue from it, whether its a youtube video, a book or a pantomime play is irrelevant
So? He read from an article made public. Not behind a paywall, a free to read article from some website no one gives a frick about.
Who gives a shit?
Yes, and presented it as his own writing and idea, without crediting the person who came up with it. You might not care, but he clearly does, because if he didn't, he would've simply been upfront about it, which means he's aware that he's doing something bad
Or he realizes the internet isn't SRS BSNS and doesn't give a frick about morons like you crying over nothing.
If that's the case, he would've simply fessed up after the first warning he got. But he didn't, he hid the video instead, and obfuscated the real reason why it was taken down. Because he knew his actions wouldn't be defensible if he came clean so late
>obfuscated the real reason why it was taken down.
what did he say was the reason? also any way to watch original video?
'some issues with copyright' which can be interpreted in a million different ways seeing as how youtube throws those out if you feature even a recording of someone humming certain songs for a few seconds
seems accurate to me.
yeah, sounds about right.
He photoshopped the YouTube warning saying it got taken down for blatant plagiarism and said it was about Copyrights saying it got "copystruck"
>STOP DON'T READ INTERENET ARTICLES FOR YOUR YOOTOOB CHANNEL IT'S LITERALLY A HECKIN VIOLENCE.
Both you homosexuals need to grow up.
Theft is theft, no matter who does. Your pet content creator lied to you, it happens. Be thankful it was only on one video and not 80% of their content output like the rest of the morons featured in hbombs video
lmao the internet might not be SRS BSNS for you, random internet moron, but for this Black person its his livelihood, I guarantee you it is very much SRS BSNS for him
IP theft isnt real. World would be so much better without copyright
>Don’t mind me just “working out” these milk duds
the quality of content in his videos has been slowly diminishing and he's gradually gotten lazier about uploads. he's gotten too rich is probably the biggest problem.
i don't give a shit about internet historian but hbomberguy is a genuine leftist soiboy sterotype (bald, scraggly beard, dyel, feminist)
I find it quite shocking how some people are willing to forgive straight up theft as long as the right people are doing it
>is openly bisexual
>probably consumes onions products
>still produces enough testosterone in his body that he starts balding
>makes one video and impacts several creators
>even gay leftists like himself
>makes Cinemaphile seethe
How does he do it
who?
There is no such thing as bisexual, it's just being a homosexual with no particular preference.
you don't NEED testosterone to go bald, some people like him are just dysgenic
Hbomberguy simulatenously looks a sex offended and the child he molested at the same time