I'd wager that if Joker was about to be sentenced to the death penalty Batman would find a way to get him exonerated on appeal or threaten the judge to lessen the sentence to life without parole.
He appointed HIMSELF Gotham's "protector." He's just too self-righteous to do what Gotham really needs.
After the first couple encounters with Joker, all the civilian lives are on his head, Bats KNOWS there's no redeeming Joker. He could have done something to permanently fix the problem instead of slapping a band-aid on it and waiting for dozens more to die because muh morals. Build a better containment cell in the Batcave. Put Joker in orbit on the Justice League watchtower. Have Supes dig out a supermax under the Fortress of Solitude.
But no. Back to revolving-door Arkham for the bajillionth time, then get all weepy about incurably crazy Joker is and all the innocent lives he's destroyed.
>B-but that's illegal incerceration! No due process!
He's a vigilante. Every time he dons his spandex underoos to pummel muggers, Bats is breaking the law. >Sure, but that's for the greater good!
The greatest good would be removing the obvious recurring threat entirely instead of temporary ineffective solution after temporary ineffective solution.
Honestly the problem is that they made the Joker too fricking evil
Like if he committed robberies and a murder here and there it'd be one thing not to kill him and hope the authorities do their job, but the dude casually commits mass murder and leaves mountains of corpses in his wake, there is simply no reasonable excuse for him not be killed
He appointed HIMSELF Gotham's "protector." He's just too self-righteous to do what Gotham really needs.
After the first couple encounters with Joker, all the civilian lives are on his head, Bats KNOWS there's no redeeming Joker. He could have done something to permanently fix the problem instead of slapping a band-aid on it and waiting for dozens more to die because muh morals. Build a better containment cell in the Batcave. Put Joker in orbit on the Justice League watchtower. Have Supes dig out a supermax under the Fortress of Solitude.
But no. Back to revolving-door Arkham for the bajillionth time, then get all weepy about incurably crazy Joker is and all the innocent lives he's destroyed.
>B-but that's illegal incerceration! No due process!
He's a vigilante. Every time he dons his spandex underoos to pummel muggers, Bats is breaking the law. >Sure, but that's for the greater good!
The greatest good would be removing the obvious recurring threat entirely instead of temporary ineffective solution after temporary ineffective solution.
that's what made the killing joke so good, batman realizing there's no way of saving him
Yeah, fricking finally. Hundreds of murders later.
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that's what made the killing joke so good, batman realizing there's no way of saving him
He appointed HIMSELF Gotham's "protector." He's just too self-righteous to do what Gotham really needs.
After the first couple encounters with Joker, all the civilian lives are on his head, Bats KNOWS there's no redeeming Joker. He could have done something to permanently fix the problem instead of slapping a band-aid on it and waiting for dozens more to die because muh morals. Build a better containment cell in the Batcave. Put Joker in orbit on the Justice League watchtower. Have Supes dig out a supermax under the Fortress of Solitude.
But no. Back to revolving-door Arkham for the bajillionth time, then get all weepy about incurably crazy Joker is and all the innocent lives he's destroyed.
>B-but that's illegal incerceration! No due process!
He's a vigilante. Every time he dons his spandex underoos to pummel muggers, Bats is breaking the law. >Sure, but that's for the greater good!
The greatest good would be removing the obvious recurring threat entirely instead of temporary ineffective solution after temporary ineffective solution.
the only problem with le joker never gets punished meme is that it's an invention of the publisher and not the writers
at the end of every story arc the joker gets put away, he only comes back because the publisher needs it
ADDITIONALLY he wasn't always a mass-murderer with a body count in the gorillions, that's something that built up over time from iteration to iteration; the idea that a jury would be cool with a maniac getting away with something like that multiple times in a row is ludicrous, and again, an invention of the publisheer
the "problem" is only so apparent now because authors don't invent new villains
the joker had less than 100 appearances in the golden age, a few hundred in the silver age, a thousand in the 80s-2000s, but then after the new 52 he's had FIVE THOUSAND appearances
writers are incompetent
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>the idea that a jury would be cool with a maniac getting away with something like that multiple times in a row is ludicrous
They wouldn't have a choice. He's clinically insane.
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that's irrelevant lol, any jury would put him to death
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How? He'd just plead insanity and go back to the revolving doors of Arkham.
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my point is that the plea wouldn't work if you've killed gorillions of people
this is like saying jigsaw never killed anyone
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Uhm actually he's super sane 🙂
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He knows what he's doing.
He knows that killing / torturing people is bad.
He's a psychopath, not someone not in control of their actions.
batkek goes out of his way to save monsters and murderers because they arent doing any physical harm at that moment
all this happens because writers cant kill off characters that could bring in more money
His entire personality, worldview, and creative output (such as it is) is literally a cope so he doesn't kill himself. That's what it's like for these people, that's why they act the way they do. If he had to face facts he'd slit his throat the second he looked in a mirror, thought back on his romantic/sexual history, or considered his financial prospects for the rest of his life.
His family actually succeeded in getting him to give up the internet because his deranged ramblings on twitter actually stopped his brother from being able to get a job with the government.
Maybe he has, he disappeared after telling Zelda Williams to 'calm her breasts' when she was depressed due to her father (Robin Williams) killing himself.
Sometimes it does. The problem is women will hold you to standards that are hard to meet. A man is better off being honest and somewhat misogynist than trying to live up to those standards. If a guy legitimately is, then I guess that's fine, but one slip-up is more damaging to a feminist man than a non-feminist man.
This is chuckle-inducing and all, but the fact that the reality of that situation was later explained by the cosplayer in question and she revealed that the biggest creep in the entire convention hall was, surprise surprise, dobson all along and that she went there with the express purpose to act loose and be photographed in the first place makes what actually happened go beyond hilarious. That guy's entire life must be like this. Fricking imagine.
>Uh hello hola yes I do speak a little bit of Spanish Uh that's real by the way. I also want to say that if you dispute my name because you're probably wondering are you the strongest? Uh so at comic con 2014 this creep th-this effin weirdo was like talkin' to some cosplay chick that I was talking too. Uh I socked him he went down in about 4 seconds uh he bled everywhere and... yeah I'm strong as hell but I could go on but I do love all games what's up
What a dork man. If a guy under 22 drew this, I would understand, but any guy older? Come on dude. The dude acts like a child and a stereotypical nice guy. It's sad and pathetic.
>Spends his entire life training with ninjas so that he can fight crime >Has no life other than fighting crime, focus his entire waking moments to that >mary sue
That is not how mary sue works
Mary sue is like this:
>Is female >constantly going out to parties, social events >entire focus of life is having sex with men >somehow is skilled at solving problems and achieving solutions
Only basement dwellers ever excel at anything in life, never forget. This is the one constant rule of humans on earth, remember that writers.
>>Is female
going out to parties, social events
focus of life is having sex with men
is skilled at solving problems and achieving solutions
this.
batman is batman because of all the trials and tribulations he went through.
mary sue is just good at everything with no history to suggest that she should or would be good at something.
>>Is female
going out to parties, social events
focus of life is having sex with men
is skilled at solving problems and achieving solutions
this.
batman is batman because of all the trials and tribulations he went through.
mary sue is just good at everything with no history to suggest that she should or would be good at something.
You at least have to recognize Batman is much more important than he should be.
A "normal human" couldn't do the shit he does.
It's not a big deal, DC just has to acknowledge he has some superpowers.
Bruce Wayne is not a normal guy. Granted he was born into money, but he's wealthy. He doesn't need to work. He has time to train and study. He has the money to train and study. He's wealthy and has access to things normal people don't have access to. He can also get things easier than regular people. He's not a normal guy. He still had to train obviously, but he's not a normal guy at all. Workaholic billionaires are a thing.
>but he's not a normal guy at al
That's the thing : DC would NEVER acknowledge Batman is beyond normal humans.
Despite him having super-genius, putting him on par with Tony Stark level of techs (but ONLY during crossovers).
difference between typical hero and larry stu is quality of writing
poor writing >rey just knows how to fly it >she knows how to fix it >she just feels the force by feel to defeat him >she is just more powerful than others before her
passable writing >he spend x months investigating and working on >found that one weakness >device complicated plan how to make use of it >its all about preptime
at least thats my understanding
but I might be wrong
Think it has nothing to do with prep time, but having flaws.
Nothing is more boring than character who is great at everything.
Even ancient Greek demigods are flawed in their character, be that hubris or something else.
>poor writing
She's classic hero fulfilling multiple prophecies >rey just knows how to fly it
Skywalker! >she knows how to fix it
Skywalker! Also mechanic salvager her whole life >she just feels the force by feel to defeat him
Skywalker! The need for training is the most tired of all complaints. >she is just more powerful than others before her
Boy, you really don't wanna watch Dragon Ball.
Preptime is irrelevant because writers can create as much as they want from the air. So there are no consequences for it.
The first and the second are the same thing.
no problem.
i was gonna say "me on the right" too cause of how goofy that dinosaur looks compared to the rest of the cover but then saw someone was thinking the same thing kek
The worst twist in Rises was finding out that Bane was just a pawn.
His entire appeal in the comics is that he was a bigger smarter more evil Batman who'd usually plan big distraction tactics in order to keep Batman occupied.
If this is reference to nolan batman, he defeated the joker by becoming a disabled hermit after forcing Gordon to say he went on a killing spree to protect the man who wanted to kill Gordon's son
"Mary Sue" isn't an expression. It's a reference to an early Star Trek fanfic with a main character named Mary Sue who could basically do anything. It's now used as the name of that particular trope of bad writing.
it's from a weird homosexual fanfic site and when the star wars sequels came out it started being used constantly, so now all the plebbit types use it and have no idea where it came from.
"Mary Sue" isn't an expression. It's a reference to an early Star Trek fanfic with a main character named Mary Sue who could basically do anything. It's now used as the name of that particular trope of bad writing.
Dumbfrick foreign piece of shit.
Mary Sue was a Star Trek fan-fic character whose main trait was being friends with the entire crew of the Enterprise.
She herself wasn't extremely skilled, and even dies in her own story.
The point of being a Mary Sue isn't just being the greatest, or winning always, it is doing what the author wishes they could do to the max possible way.
Being the perfect self-insert for the writer is more important than any given competency level of the character themselves.
Batman has been: >A drug addict >A cripple >Dead >An actual bat >Blind >Mind controlled >A terrorist >A vampire >Half Wolverine >Trapped between dimensions >Imprisoned many many times >Raped >Zombified >Genderbent >Tortured by aliens >Tortured by demons >Tortured by Greek Gods >Tortured by Roman Gods >Probably Hindu Gods too
>Brother Eye the Ai he created destroys mankind >Zurr en Arrh a persona he implanted in his mind to prevent him to being mind controlled or hipynotized again turns against him
Aren't there many different kinds of Batmans? Comics don't have a canon it's just a bunch of writers doing their own things with the same character over and over. Maybe there is a perfect batman but there's definitely several not perfect batmans.
It's funny how people use this term "Mary Sue" as a pejorative in blatant disregard for the fact that it's role was the very function of literature to begin with.
Nah he isn't. Every single badass character that has the background that enables him to do their feats of badassery isn't a mary sue.
Imagine if Bruce Wayne was a bartender at some hick dive bar. Scared of bats and parents got murdered the same way. He vows to fight crime and shows up with his batmobile and all his custom gadgets.
THAT would be a mary sue. Like where does he get the money to build his own plane? When does he have the time at night to actually fight crime? None of it makes any sense beyond "he just can do it all". It's both implausible for the viewer AND the in-movie universe.
Am stupid. You can't micromanage every aspect, but if you're not sifting through reports and making informed decisions you're going to lose it all.
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>You can't micromanage every aspect, but if you're not sifting through reports and making informed decisions you're going to lose it all.
Except there are company owners that have done and continue to do just that and the company doesn't fail.
Your class is showing anon.
Fanfiction tier criticism has ruined an entire generation of media. To his point, yes superheroes were derided for decades as exactly that - shallow wish-fulfillment for children. Batman became more complex in the 80s and served as a character study of a deeply conflicted person. A Mary Sue is designated for lazy fanfiction characters that have no internal conflict whatsoever, they are worshipped on the ground they walk on.
>has the exact resources he needs for the scene regardless of the logic >all criminals become subservient to him after he kills 1-2 men instead of shooting him >police forget to do their job around him >everyone takes everything "the Joker" says at face value >too wickedly intelligent to die
This is chuckle-inducing and all, but the fact that the reality of that situation was later explained by the cosplayer in question and she revealed that the biggest creep in the entire convention hall was, surprise surprise, dobson all along and that she went there with the express purpose to act loose and be photographed in the first place makes what actually happened go beyond hilarious. That guy's entire life must be like this. Fricking imagine.
For me, it's the white knight power fantasy where he saves a loose Power Girl cosplayer from a damsel in distress scenario that he cooked up in his own head.
Not how Mary Sue works, Bruce Wayne lives on easymode as a billionaire philanthropist, as Batman he has zero superpowers and lives in a world of piss and shit. Mary Sue is the opposite, the nerd getting shit on constantly who secretly is the strongest, smartest, coolest person alive.
A Mary Sue is a woman who is flawless while beating up men/besting men all the time. The cringe equivalent in a male character would be like some creeper of a man who is better at raising children than the mothers in the park for no reason at all and he shamelessly goes around scolding the mothers for do a bad job raising children. Oh, and this creeper does all this while being a sissy about everything and everybody agrees with him once he scolds them and then everyone lives happily ever after. A man doing a better job at being a sissy caretaker of children who are not his is a male Mary Sue. A man being a macho care taker of his own children or other people's children who teaches the kids how to do athletic pursuits, out door activities, show young men how to be courageous, etc. is not a Mary Sue.
That's the level of cringe it would take to do a male Mary Sue. Strong, alienated men from rough backgrounds being vigilantes is not Mary Sue. It's realism. It's very internally consistent and world consistent. A strong woman who beats up strong men because strong men are unfair in the real world is a Mary Sue. A pretty woman who strings beta men along with the illusion of sex that she never gives them is not Mary Sue. It's realism. A pretty girl who beats up strong male villains is beta male mommy fantasy.
Who the frick idealize Batman? What people like about him is how fricked up he is, his hypocrisy, his traumas, his mistakes. Dumbest thing I read today.
>champions feminism >women are strong and capable >and also completely helpless against some guy taking their picture >also jerks off to women being blown up like balloons
Is Dobson moronic? Did he forget superman exists? The unkillable flying lazershooting superhuman who somehow is also beatifull and likable when in his alter ego? Why take the traumatised edgelord with mommy and daddy issues as an example of mary sue? Am i the real moron for spending more than 5 seconds thinking about an inflation fetishists bait comic posted on an anonymous floortile-fetishist forum? This raises so many questions
He said what he meant, Friday night was his McDonald's night. The cringe goes deep in most of his comics, but the cup runneth over in that particular one. Not only is it mega cringe to have "McDonald's night" at his age, but he almost certainly did do exactly as he indicated in that comic - awkwardly blurted out just like that as everyone was packing up to leave. Nuclear levels of autism that the world wouldn't even know about if it wasn't for his need to be seen and heard so badly.
He's like some instathot that can't help but post embarrassing shit to farm social cred and ends up with years of recorded dumb shit no one cares about until they apply for a job or catch the attention of local journos or something. No one with a lick of sense would do it.
The fact Dobson could never get into D&D means his first games were definitely with people who didn't want him there so the DM didnt help him and let him do a bunch of dumb shit so he'd die and frick off
He leaned really hard into social justice stuff in some of his later comics and a couple of them actually took off with their target audience. That being said I doubt he ever had enough of a following to have people harassed on his behalf.
>that time he uploaded a video of him playing skyrim on his mac at 15fps while crying how its perfectly fine to play it like that.
Shame its been scrubbed from the internet
He's just an absolute joke of an illustrator. He quite literally peaked with his inflation porn while in "art school" and then slowly went downhill from there. So don't expect much consistency when it comes to the size of his avatars.
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any examples of skinny dobson? also why is art school in quotes, I thought he did have an art degree
But the number of murders drastically decreases. Joker or Zsasz taking a dirt nap is a net gain.
And that's before addressing how justified their deaths would be. They both should have gotten the chair or injection decades ago, but shucks, they're just tooooo crazy. Better to bung them back into the same cell they've escaped a dozen times already.
Several explanations have been given in the comic.
Sometimes he doesn't kill because he's still traumatized over his parents' murders
Sometimes he doesn't because he doesn't trust himself to stop
Sometimes he doesn't because he genuinely believe it's useless, if he killed the Joker a new psycho would close the gap, better stick to the devil you know
With how brutal Batman's beatings get, you'd make a lot of money if you were a lawyer for the average thug suing the city for letting Batman extrajudicially cripple them for life
Wickerbasket is more of an example of a Mary Sue. Also this frick completely ignores that the masculine version is called a Gary Stu. He is inventing reasons to be mad
First the term is Gary Sue,
Second, you should say Superman for the Gary Sue.
This guy is obvious a terimial puppy beta still hoping for sex for defending women,
First I'd get Dobson in a headlock and rip his gay little hat off. Then, I'd proceed to give him a noogie bad enough to make his head bleed furiously all over, causing hair to fall out. This would be followed up by giving him an atomic wedgie plus an atomic Melvin so bad that he throws up from the pain. While laughing, I'd snap him back to his current reality with the worst Indian sunburn anyone's ever had, completely separating his skin from his arm by twisting too hard. At this point, he should have lost enough blood to require some hydration, which is when I politely drag him across the con floor into the bathroom, introducing him his to the filthiest toilet with enough swirlies to nearly drown him. Giving him a bit of rest, I wake him up with a life-threatening purple nurple. Of course we've been caught on camera and it's been a while, so the police have arrived. Before they can rush to the bathroom and apprehend my person, I finish him off by giving him a wet willie so deep and lubricated that I can pull his brain out by hooking my finger. The cops pulling me away, I laugh maniacally as he's zipped up into a bodybag, "Haha! Dork!"
>I'd proceed to give him a noogie bad enough to make his head bleed furiously all over, causing hair to fall out.
Are you wearing brass knuckles or do you have extremely calloused knuckles. Either way based.
I always thought Batman was moronic though. He was always meh, but his villain stories are good. >But-t this comi-
No one cares, comics were always moronic. Even more so now because no one is reading them and everyone involved doesn’t care.
The audience will forgive if a character is perfect, or almost perfect, if they are given a viable in-universe explanation for it. No story works without suspension of disbelief, and audiences can go really far, but they still need some sort of verisimilitude, some sort of reasoning. Batman is "perfect" because he spent a decade training to become like that. Unrealistic, but explainable. Same principal that one punch man satirizes. Rey skywalker has no training, no reason to be perfect. She just is. The feeling of a character "earning" skills, even realistically unobtainable ones, still has to be earned
Batman is known for having the best villains this “Batman is perfect” thing is only in the shittiest source material I don’t remember Batman being infallible at all, I think it’s more when he teams up with heroes who have super powers which I never read anyway
One of my favorite things about Dobson is that despite everything surrounding him, literally not one person has read any of his actual comics beyond his autobiographical/strawman ones and the consolewars garfield one.
He made like half a dozen different series that never went anywhere beyond two issues at best, but you never see them mentioned in any of these threads. Compare that to CWC and Sonichu where both are practically synonymous, Dobson is a laughingstock while his actual serious comics are unknown beyond half a dozen people.
Who has read Alex ze Pirate? Who has read Formera?
Its not even a good example. Batman is a dude with no superpowers other than being really rich in a world full of freaks. Superman would be the obvious Mary Sue parallel and that doesn't really count because the whole point of the character is that he's an all powerful paragon of justice.
Batman is a billionaire, is fit, tall, and yet he’s an incel. He never had any kids of his own, and every criminal he has ever caught has always broke free, making his efforts pointless. He’s not a Mary Sue, because he has never succeeded, he’s a failure. Take your blue bear homosexualry and go.
>incel
Do you even know what that means?
He's not involuntarily celibate. Not even celibate, really.
Just look at that tortured look, he's suffering hard from pstd thanks to his traumatic experience.
When he is celibate, it's completely voluntary. Every chick in Gotham would jump onto his billionaire dick if he'd let them. It'd be a Braveheart charge towards Wayne Manor.
mary sue is inserting a character into an already existing property who is "too important", "too beloved" and "too powerful". It's a subjective term. You can't just retroactively apply it to main characters.
Male Mary Sues are ok because there is an inherent meta quality about them that makes them enjoyable. Nobody will argue that Reacher, Batman, and James Bond aren’t male power fantasies. We want to say “hell yeah” as they beat the shit out of the bad guy and frick the hot chick.
The issue with female Mary Sues like Rey and Captain Marvel is they’re inserted into traditionally male franchises and we’re expected by the writers to view these characters as fleshed out human beings. If call Rey a MS, there will be a legion of homosexuals ready to debate me on that. Notice how female Mary Sues are more acceptable in female franchises (Twlight, Barbie, etc.)?
>That blue bear won't make it into my factory, I assure you. >My Oompa Loompa guards have the finest weaponry and have been trained in the art of candy combat. >There's no way Dobson is stealing my three-course meal gum.
Batman earned what he has though.
>he earned borning a billionarie with genius IQ
>You just get good IQ handed to you at birth.
I am glad you aren't one of those people with said genius IQ.
The mentality ill gay is usually wrong but he's on point for once.
Just like Rey Palpatine
>no one responded to the homosexualjakker's bait
>Batman is perfect
How many people has the Joker killed because of his hypocrisy?
Why is it Batman's job to kill the joker
*rape
it's white men's job to fix society, everyone else can just chillax
Because people suddenly forgot the law is the whole reason we’re in this mess in the first place.
I'd wager that if Joker was about to be sentenced to the death penalty Batman would find a way to get him exonerated on appeal or threaten the judge to lessen the sentence to life without parole.
I think there was a comic where Joker was on trial for one murder he didn't commit and Batman had to save him from execution.
Because he commits mass murder on the regular and Gotham's law system is such a joke that they'll never get rid of him
He appointed HIMSELF Gotham's "protector." He's just too self-righteous to do what Gotham really needs.
After the first couple encounters with Joker, all the civilian lives are on his head, Bats KNOWS there's no redeeming Joker. He could have done something to permanently fix the problem instead of slapping a band-aid on it and waiting for dozens more to die because muh morals. Build a better containment cell in the Batcave. Put Joker in orbit on the Justice League watchtower. Have Supes dig out a supermax under the Fortress of Solitude.
But no. Back to revolving-door Arkham for the bajillionth time, then get all weepy about incurably crazy Joker is and all the innocent lives he's destroyed.
>B-but that's illegal incerceration! No due process!
He's a vigilante. Every time he dons his spandex underoos to pummel muggers, Bats is breaking the law.
>Sure, but that's for the greater good!
The greatest good would be removing the obvious recurring threat entirely instead of temporary ineffective solution after temporary ineffective solution.
Honestly the problem is that they made the Joker too fricking evil
Like if he committed robberies and a murder here and there it'd be one thing not to kill him and hope the authorities do their job, but the dude casually commits mass murder and leaves mountains of corpses in his wake, there is simply no reasonable excuse for him not be killed
The Joker needs to be toned down
that's what made the killing joke so good, batman realizing there's no way of saving him
Yeah, fricking finally. Hundreds of murders later.
the only problem with le joker never gets punished meme is that it's an invention of the publisher and not the writers
at the end of every story arc the joker gets put away, he only comes back because the publisher needs it
ADDITIONALLY he wasn't always a mass-murderer with a body count in the gorillions, that's something that built up over time from iteration to iteration; the idea that a jury would be cool with a maniac getting away with something like that multiple times in a row is ludicrous, and again, an invention of the publisheer
the "problem" is only so apparent now because authors don't invent new villains
the joker had less than 100 appearances in the golden age, a few hundred in the silver age, a thousand in the 80s-2000s, but then after the new 52 he's had FIVE THOUSAND appearances
writers are incompetent
>the idea that a jury would be cool with a maniac getting away with something like that multiple times in a row is ludicrous
They wouldn't have a choice. He's clinically insane.
that's irrelevant lol, any jury would put him to death
How? He'd just plead insanity and go back to the revolving doors of Arkham.
my point is that the plea wouldn't work if you've killed gorillions of people
this is like saying jigsaw never killed anyone
Uhm actually he's super sane 🙂
He knows what he's doing.
He knows that killing / torturing people is bad.
He's a psychopath, not someone not in control of their actions.
Because Gotham is a corrupt shithole.
batkek goes out of his way to save monsters and murderers because they arent doing any physical harm at that moment
all this happens because writers cant kill off characters that could bring in more money
Because he is the only one allowed to defeat him.
And Joker weekly kills thousands of people.
yeah dobson lost me there
No the biggest Mary Sue is Mary Sue in those Star Trek fanfics.
Batman is not perfect. He's gay.
>BUT, He's GAY! -He's gay -he's BLIND.
Kinda weird that this homosexual hasn't killed himself yet
>he doesnt know
The SJW movement has turned his patheticness into a strength
well he utterly failed at everything he set out to do. maybe he did kill himself since we haven't heard from him.
I'm more surprised he didn't transitioned yet
He is the Dunning-Kruger effect personified.
His entire personality, worldview, and creative output (such as it is) is literally a cope so he doesn't kill himself. That's what it's like for these people, that's why they act the way they do. If he had to face facts he'd slit his throat the second he looked in a mirror, thought back on his romantic/sexual history, or considered his financial prospects for the rest of his life.
His family actually succeeded in getting him to give up the internet because his deranged ramblings on twitter actually stopped his brother from being able to get a job with the government.
Maybe he has, he disappeared after telling Zelda Williams to 'calm her breasts' when she was depressed due to her father (Robin Williams) killing himself.
Nah he was still lingering around for years after he said that
>Please sleep with me women! I bash men!
That's now how women work, moron, and it's why his fat ugly ass will never get laid.
It actually does work sometimes, but only on the ugly women that are interested in cucking you and turning you into a femdom sissy.
Sometimes it does. The problem is women will hold you to standards that are hard to meet. A man is better off being honest and somewhat misogynist than trying to live up to those standards. If a guy legitimately is, then I guess that's fine, but one slip-up is more damaging to a feminist man than a non-feminist man.
>turning you into a femdom sissy
I’m listening
>photoshopping dobson in the picture when he's already in the background (allegedly)
Weird
t. dobson
He was probably in the foreground if anything
>tell your girls to smile
dobson would be a chad if he pulled an opposite george costanza and larped as his villains
>dresses in a loose cosplay for a convention
>is embarrassed/frustrated because she didn't expect there would be cameras at the convention?
so is son of dob moronic or does he think women are moronic?
Had he never seen a con prostitute before?
Seen? Most likely
Interacted with to any meaningful degree? It's DOBSON
>Uh hello hola yes I do speak a little bit of Spanish Uh that's real by the way. I also want to say that if you dispute my name because you're probably wondering are you the strongest? Uh so at comic con 2014 this creep th-this effin weirdo was like talkin' to some cosplay chick that I was talking too. Uh I socked him he went down in about 4 seconds uh he bled everywhere and... yeah I'm strong as hell but I could go on but I do love all games what's up
What a dork man. If a guy under 22 drew this, I would understand, but any guy older? Come on dude. The dude acts like a child and a stereotypical nice guy. It's sad and pathetic.
At least post the real one
The Story is even better
I never, ever get tired of this story. He's just sitting in the background looking upset. Absolutely priceless.
>Spends his entire life training with ninjas so that he can fight crime
>Has no life other than fighting crime, focus his entire waking moments to that
>mary sue
That is not how mary sue works
Mary sue is like this:
>Is female
>constantly going out to parties, social events
>entire focus of life is having sex with men
>somehow is skilled at solving problems and achieving solutions
Only basement dwellers ever excel at anything in life, never forget. This is the one constant rule of humans on earth, remember that writers.
>>Is female
going out to parties, social events
focus of life is having sex with men
is skilled at solving problems and achieving solutions
this.
batman is batman because of all the trials and tribulations he went through.
mary sue is just good at everything with no history to suggest that she should or would be good at something.
You at least have to recognize Batman is much more important than he should be.
A "normal human" couldn't do the shit he does.
It's not a big deal, DC just has to acknowledge he has some superpowers.
Bruce Wayne is not a normal guy. Granted he was born into money, but he's wealthy. He doesn't need to work. He has time to train and study. He has the money to train and study. He's wealthy and has access to things normal people don't have access to. He can also get things easier than regular people. He's not a normal guy. He still had to train obviously, but he's not a normal guy at all. Workaholic billionaires are a thing.
>but he's not a normal guy at al
That's the thing : DC would NEVER acknowledge Batman is beyond normal humans.
Despite him having super-genius, putting him on par with Tony Stark level of techs (but ONLY during crossovers).
focus of life is having sex with men
So, Rey isn't Mary Sue, because she is a virgin?
difference between typical hero and larry stu is quality of writing
poor writing
>rey just knows how to fly it
>she knows how to fix it
>she just feels the force by feel to defeat him
>she is just more powerful than others before her
passable writing
>he spend x months investigating and working on
>found that one weakness
>device complicated plan how to make use of it
>its all about preptime
at least thats my understanding
but I might be wrong
Think it has nothing to do with prep time, but having flaws.
Nothing is more boring than character who is great at everything.
Even ancient Greek demigods are flawed in their character, be that hubris or something else.
>poor writing
She's classic hero fulfilling multiple prophecies
>rey just knows how to fly it
Skywalker!
>she knows how to fix it
Skywalker! Also mechanic salvager her whole life
>she just feels the force by feel to defeat him
Skywalker! The need for training is the most tired of all complaints.
>she is just more powerful than others before her
Boy, you really don't wanna watch Dragon Ball.
Preptime is irrelevant because writers can create as much as they want from the air. So there are no consequences for it.
The first and the second are the same thing.
Batman has failed multiple times in the comics
There's literally an arc where he fails so badly he is forced into retirement after being crippled
Me on the right.
>t. pic rel
Thank you, Anon. I shall cherish this.
no problem.
i was gonna say "me on the right" too cause of how goofy that dinosaur looks compared to the rest of the cover but then saw someone was thinking the same thing kek
you are not scientifically accurate anymore anon
dino just sayin "hi"
can i achieve that look natty?
>pls respond
It's funny how this used to be the one thing Bane was known for and now it's completely forgotten as a result of big guy 4u.
%3D
Go to 2:43
The kid picking up the tommy gun is 100% certified kino.
>Batman hides a red rocket
>tfw an Orgasmo reference slips into your Batman cartoon
The worst twist in Rises was finding out that Bane was just a pawn.
His entire appeal in the comics is that he was a bigger smarter more evil Batman who'd usually plan big distraction tactics in order to keep Batman occupied.
Yeah, this comes from a time when Batman was just a really strong human.
Batman defeated the Joker because of his years of training.
If this is reference to nolan batman, he defeated the joker by becoming a disabled hermit after forcing Gordon to say he went on a killing spree to protect the man who wanted to kill Gordon's son
Mary Sue? What kind of expression is that lmao? English people make me laugh sometimes
SAAARS GOOD MORNING DO NOT REDEEM THE ENGLISH SAARS
FRICK OFF
I'm german and funny thing is english come from us 😉
I thought it was closer to Danish (North German)
it's a muttified Mish mash of
>germanic
>low Dutch
>saxon/Olde english/Welsh
>latin/Greek word building suffixes, prefixes, etc
>German
>trying to call anyones language muttified
American larp or completely moronic. Either way you make no sense.
French or just moronic?
>Only Indians think the English language is goofy as frick
Go back to school, Nigel
pajeet
"Mary Sue" isn't an expression. It's a reference to an early Star Trek fanfic with a main character named Mary Sue who could basically do anything. It's now used as the name of that particular trope of bad writing.
Dumbfrick foreign piece of shit.
it's from a weird homosexual fanfic site and when the star wars sequels came out it started being used constantly, so now all the plebbit types use it and have no idea where it came from.
Go home zoomer
have a nice day actual fricking aids vector homosexual.
Are you trolling or genuinely a zoomer?
Mary Sue was a Star Trek fan-fic character whose main trait was being friends with the entire crew of the Enterprise.
She herself wasn't extremely skilled, and even dies in her own story.
The point of being a Mary Sue isn't just being the greatest, or winning always, it is doing what the author wishes they could do to the max possible way.
Being the perfect self-insert for the writer is more important than any given competency level of the character themselves.
>not Superman
He had one job. This one opportunity to do everything right
But he never defeats the joker, he is so bound to his black/white mentality he is willing to let a insane murderer live multiple times.
Never sleep next to rabid dog.
Batman has been:
>A drug addict
>A cripple
>Dead
>An actual bat
>Blind
>Mind controlled
>A terrorist
>A vampire
>Half Wolverine
>Trapped between dimensions
>Imprisoned many many times
>Raped
>Zombified
>Genderbent
>Tortured by aliens
>Tortured by demons
>Tortured by Greek Gods
>Tortured by Roman Gods
>Probably Hindu Gods too
What am I missing?
Batman vs The Zulu, when?
a gf
Happily divorced, my desperate Anon.
Raped? When did Batman get raped?
He's been raped by Talia, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Clayface, and some others. Maybe even Alfred.
And they didn't think to take off his mask while doing it?
It was dark at the time. Every time.
Ra's and Talia (and Bane) know full well who Batman is. How do you not know this?
>MFW I will never get raped by a hot Arab assassin chick
Talia, poison ivy, clay face. Unironically.
>raped
>Talia, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn
Holy shit, how terrible. Dude really has suffered.
Just look at that tortured look, he's suffering hard from pstd thanks to his traumatic experience.
He got raped by a rockpunk looking dude too. He’s a huge frick in the movies too.
I can't find anything on that, but lemme guess.... he turned into a hot af woman with huge breasts to accomplish this.
by who?
The daughter of that assassin guild leader. It's why he has a son.
He got "digitized" once, like in TRON.
>Brother Eye the Ai he created destroys mankind
>Zurr en Arrh a persona he implanted in his mind to prevent him to being mind controlled or hipynotized again turns against him
>posts moronic comicshit that no one reads or cares about
HAHAHAHAHA
How many fricking gorilla characters does dc have?
Wanked off to be the most dangerous living creature in the DC universe and the smartest being of all time.
Aren't there many different kinds of Batmans? Comics don't have a canon it's just a bunch of writers doing their own things with the same character over and over. Maybe there is a perfect batman but there's definitely several not perfect batmans.
James Bond would've been a better example
Bond couldn't save Vesper or even his wife. Another terrible example.
It's funny how people use this term "Mary Sue" as a pejorative in blatant disregard for the fact that it's role was the very function of literature to begin with.
Apologise
Based as frick, Cinemaphile is too plebeian to see the truth and join the DobMob
>DobMob vs BobMob
I'd watch it
wtf was his problem? he usually walks on eggshells around women and then he aims for the jugular here
i still can't wrap my head around this tweet
I wonder if he did this for attention but then I wonder if he's intelligent enough for that
The reply doesn't even make any sense, it's so bewildering
was this when robin died?
yes
>Robin
That's DC and thor is Marvel
I think they are talking about Robin Williams
Why?
Because the person that Dob is replying to is Robin’s daughter (and I think this was around the time Robin died)
Who the frick would refer to Robin Williams as just Robin?
This isn't actually when Robin Williams died. He died years before female Thor.
It's real and he was that insensitive and stupid to say that.
Female Thor debuted two months after he died, actually.
>guy who lectures you about sexism is actually extremely sexist and is projecting that onto everyone else
every time
Reminder that this was on the anniversary of her father's death
had to get a bong hit transplant to understand this tweet.
Nah he isn't. Every single badass character that has the background that enables him to do their feats of badassery isn't a mary sue.
Imagine if Bruce Wayne was a bartender at some hick dive bar. Scared of bats and parents got murdered the same way. He vows to fight crime and shows up with his batmobile and all his custom gadgets.
THAT would be a mary sue. Like where does he get the money to build his own plane? When does he have the time at night to actually fight crime? None of it makes any sense beyond "he just can do it all". It's both implausible for the viewer AND the in-movie universe.
Where does he find the time to manage his billion dollar business when he's up all night fighting crime?
Do you know how companies work? The owners don't personally handle the business.
Lucius Fox handles all the Wayne enterprises business
In real life he'd go broke relying on other people to handle his money.
>In real life he'd go broke relying on other people to handle his money.
Anon I...
Am stupid. You can't micromanage every aspect, but if you're not sifting through reports and making informed decisions you're going to lose it all.
>You can't micromanage every aspect, but if you're not sifting through reports and making informed decisions you're going to lose it all.
Except there are company owners that have done and continue to do just that and the company doesn't fail.
Your class is showing anon.
>t. poor
sry anon
He's inflated, you know.
Fanfiction tier criticism has ruined an entire generation of media. To his point, yes superheroes were derided for decades as exactly that - shallow wish-fulfillment for children. Batman became more complex in the 80s and served as a character study of a deeply conflicted person. A Mary Sue is designated for lazy fanfiction characters that have no internal conflict whatsoever, they are worshipped on the ground they walk on.
IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTERS
Is this same moron that fantasizes about food all the time.
i've lost track of these soiboys
>has the exact resources he needs for the scene regardless of the logic
>all criminals become subservient to him after he kills 1-2 men instead of shooting him
>police forget to do their job around him
>everyone takes everything "the Joker" says at face value
>too wickedly intelligent to die
Wouldn't killing the Joker invoke Batman's wrath on you? I don't want to get beaten up by Batman.
> unironically replying to dobsons nonsense
most posters in this thread should be banned
what really happened is even funnier
This is chuckle-inducing and all, but the fact that the reality of that situation was later explained by the cosplayer in question and she revealed that the biggest creep in the entire convention hall was, surprise surprise, dobson all along and that she went there with the express purpose to act loose and be photographed in the first place makes what actually happened go beyond hilarious. That guy's entire life must be like this. Fricking imagine.
> that situation was later explained by the cosplayer in questio
Doubt
post the complete version
If nothing else, Grant Gustin will always have that meme.
is there anything more pathetic than the online comic "artist" archetype? it's a shame it died off
He's dead isn't he? There's no way he stayed silent for so long just like that.
No. He’s using a different alias now I think.
For me, it's the white knight power fantasy where he saves a loose Power Girl cosplayer from a damsel in distress scenario that he cooked up in his own head.
nah it's all the current girl bosses with no flaws or weaknesses
What happened to my good friend Preston? Is he still around?
>Venetian mask
now that's a meme I haven't seen in a long time
He disappeared up his own ass five years ago or so.
Last I heard, his family pressured him off of the internet after his brother lost a job opportunity through his online antics.
What's the difference between Andrew Dobson and Tom Preston?
one is his real name and the other is a pseudonym he used for some reason
And what of good CannyN?
CattyN*
a pseudonym he used with good reason
I thought son of dob hated anime....
no that's just one of his many copes. he thinks watching anime ruined his art style.
He hates anime made after the year 1999.
Actually this really brings it into question why he hasnt trooned yet. Its very surprising seeing as one of these characters is a stand in for him.
In the words of Yoda. He's too old to be trained.
Wtf
I feel bad for his family. Imagine if your fat autistic internet comic artist brother cost you a well paid job for the government?
Not how Mary Sue works, Bruce Wayne lives on easymode as a billionaire philanthropist, as Batman he has zero superpowers and lives in a world of piss and shit. Mary Sue is the opposite, the nerd getting shit on constantly who secretly is the strongest, smartest, coolest person alive.
1. Males are called Gary Stus
2. Superman would be a bigger example than Batman
C. Stupid blue bear iz gaygit
A Mary Sue is a woman who is flawless while beating up men/besting men all the time. The cringe equivalent in a male character would be like some creeper of a man who is better at raising children than the mothers in the park for no reason at all and he shamelessly goes around scolding the mothers for do a bad job raising children. Oh, and this creeper does all this while being a sissy about everything and everybody agrees with him once he scolds them and then everyone lives happily ever after. A man doing a better job at being a sissy caretaker of children who are not his is a male Mary Sue. A man being a macho care taker of his own children or other people's children who teaches the kids how to do athletic pursuits, out door activities, show young men how to be courageous, etc. is not a Mary Sue.
That's the level of cringe it would take to do a male Mary Sue. Strong, alienated men from rough backgrounds being vigilantes is not Mary Sue. It's realism. It's very internally consistent and world consistent. A strong woman who beats up strong men because strong men are unfair in the real world is a Mary Sue. A pretty woman who strings beta men along with the illusion of sex that she never gives them is not Mary Sue. It's realism. A pretty girl who beats up strong male villains is beta male mommy fantasy.
Who the frick idealize Batman? What people like about him is how fricked up he is, his hypocrisy, his traumas, his mistakes. Dumbest thing I read today.
>champions feminism
>women are strong and capable
>and also completely helpless against some guy taking their picture
>also jerks off to women being blown up like balloons
Is Dobson moronic? Did he forget superman exists? The unkillable flying lazershooting superhuman who somehow is also beatifull and likable when in his alter ego? Why take the traumatised edgelord with mommy and daddy issues as an example of mary sue? Am i the real moron for spending more than 5 seconds thinking about an inflation fetishists bait comic posted on an anonymous floortile-fetishist forum? This raises so many questions
>bait
It's not bait, Dobson isn't smart enough for that.
Yeah but he's dobson, so he's wrong.
why did he say mcdonalds night as if it were some organized event?
he clearly meant to say 'who's going to mcdonalds tonight?'
he's not good with words
He said what he meant, Friday night was his McDonald's night. The cringe goes deep in most of his comics, but the cup runneth over in that particular one. Not only is it mega cringe to have "McDonald's night" at his age, but he almost certainly did do exactly as he indicated in that comic - awkwardly blurted out just like that as everyone was packing up to leave. Nuclear levels of autism that the world wouldn't even know about if it wasn't for his need to be seen and heard so badly.
He's like some instathot that can't help but post embarrassing shit to farm social cred and ends up with years of recorded dumb shit no one cares about until they apply for a job or catch the attention of local journos or something. No one with a lick of sense would do it.
That's a fairly small amount of McDonalds for an average person I'd say?
That's not even the actual definition and even if it were, it doesn't apply to Batman. Dobby just can't be honest about anything.
>dobson
>correct
pick one
>Dobson needs a thesaurus for 'dying', 'life' and 'apple'
Kek
I believe it
He definitely needs one for "apple"
>calling klingons black
Maybe hes based afterall
Dobson is too much of a nerd even for TTRPGgays
It's very funny that later on Dobson changed his personality so that it literally became "I'm so non-threatening, sex is evil."
He was a Born Again Ally.
The fact Dobson could never get into D&D means his first games were definitely with people who didn't want him there so the DM didnt help him and let him do a bunch of dumb shit so he'd die and frick off
or he's just that dumb, which I can easily believe
All men have to do to get Twilight is inagin a gender swaped version of it
It always makes me chuckle when some midwit assumes because they are physically weaker than sportsman, they must be smarter.
Everyone in universe says he's fricked in the head.
The Bat-Wank part is true, tho
>The Bat-Wank part is true, tho
Then how come there's no inescapable Bat-asylum or Bat-mental-health-treatment-program?
Lol!
>Cosplayer was bullied off insta by his cult
How did this guy ever have a fan base?
He leaned really hard into social justice stuff in some of his later comics and a couple of them actually took off with their target audience. That being said I doubt he ever had enough of a following to have people harassed on his behalf.
Some underaged zoomers unironically liked his comics but they never gave him money
i hope someone sends him this shit every once in a while.
>Revising a 15+ year old comic to conform to modern stances on capeshit
>H-h-he's right you know
Fricking have a nice day homosexual.
Batman has a metric frickton of flaws.
>Batman is perfect
not at having parents GOTTEM
>that time he uploaded a video of him playing skyrim on his mac at 15fps while crying how its perfectly fine to play it like that.
Shame its been scrubbed from the internet
it's funny how moronic he is
But he literally has mcdonalds nights
>he literally has mcdonalds nights
It's over
IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTERS!
just looking at his cartoon avatar you can tell he's never chosen the healthy option in his life
he looks far worse in real life
always the case. but even the flattering cartoon version is a fat frick. really makes you think.
He's just an absolute joke of an illustrator. He quite literally peaked with his inflation porn while in "art school" and then slowly went downhill from there. So don't expect much consistency when it comes to the size of his avatars.
any examples of skinny dobson? also why is art school in quotes, I thought he did have an art degree
How? I've never owned a good computer in my life and played it at a higher framerate. How poor is he?
Probably playing on an ancient iMac going by his drawing and maybe too stupid to understand that he could reduce the resolution.
>on his mac
Found the problem, but judging by his comics and internet activity he's battling serious mental moronation so it suits him anyway
OTHER
GAME
ALL OF THE DAY BRO
FRIDAY NIGHT BROS!?!! WE EATING GOOD TONIGHT!!!!
>200k art school
>Doesn't even have a meal plan.
Doesn't everyone constantly point out just how mentally ill Batman is and how he is one hair away from going full unhinged?
No, people point out how he punches mentally ill por people
>he punches mentally ill poor people
Based beyond belief
<3 NEIL
Angel
What if Dobson's been hitting the gym so he can rape?
>morons still think Batman doesn't kill because muh law
Batman doesn't kill because if he does it once he knows he's just gonna start snapping necks left and right. He's not going to stop at the Joker.
The kind of supervillains he has to fight again and again, he should be snapping necks left and right.
Well Zsasz should definitely be offed as well.
Exactly this. If he kills a murderer then the number of murderers in the world will stay the same.
But the number of murders drastically decreases. Joker or Zsasz taking a dirt nap is a net gain.
And that's before addressing how justified their deaths would be. They both should have gotten the chair or injection decades ago, but shucks, they're just tooooo crazy. Better to bung them back into the same cell they've escaped a dozen times already.
so kill two
only a couple dead instead of bus load
its not even murder at this point anyway
>Have a chance to stop a killer from killing again
>Don't bother because the number of killers is the same anyway
Genius.
Several explanations have been given in the comic.
Sometimes he doesn't kill because he's still traumatized over his parents' murders
Sometimes he doesn't because he doesn't trust himself to stop
Sometimes he doesn't because he genuinely believe it's useless, if he killed the Joker a new psycho would close the gap, better stick to the devil you know
I would pay good money to watch Dobson get his jaw shattered with a baseball bat.
What villain has Batman EVER fully defeated?x
Also, tell me about how perfect Bruce Wayne is.
You can't kill good.
Batmans more a case of flanderization. All superheroes, with hundreds of authors writing stories, follow the same path.
With how brutal Batman's beatings get, you'd make a lot of money if you were a lawyer for the average thug suing the city for letting Batman extrajudicially cripple them for life
Low level criminals don't sue
Comics are fricking stupid and you guys are moronic for arguing over Batman.
Wickerbasket is more of an example of a Mary Sue. Also this frick completely ignores that the masculine version is called a Gary Stu. He is inventing reasons to be mad
First the term is Gary Sue,
Second, you should say Superman for the Gary Sue.
This guy is obvious a terimial puppy beta still hoping for sex for defending women,
Yeah he totally told them, and their inflated egos. They had some pretty big heads trying to say that. He burst their bubble.
oh you
Hes right, you know...
First I'd get Dobson in a headlock and rip his gay little hat off. Then, I'd proceed to give him a noogie bad enough to make his head bleed furiously all over, causing hair to fall out. This would be followed up by giving him an atomic wedgie plus an atomic Melvin so bad that he throws up from the pain. While laughing, I'd snap him back to his current reality with the worst Indian sunburn anyone's ever had, completely separating his skin from his arm by twisting too hard. At this point, he should have lost enough blood to require some hydration, which is when I politely drag him across the con floor into the bathroom, introducing him his to the filthiest toilet with enough swirlies to nearly drown him. Giving him a bit of rest, I wake him up with a life-threatening purple nurple. Of course we've been caught on camera and it's been a while, so the police have arrived. Before they can rush to the bathroom and apprehend my person, I finish him off by giving him a wet willie so deep and lubricated that I can pull his brain out by hooking my finger. The cops pulling me away, I laugh maniacally as he's zipped up into a bodybag, "Haha! Dork!"
>I'd proceed to give him a noogie bad enough to make his head bleed furiously all over, causing hair to fall out.
Are you wearing brass knuckles or do you have extremely calloused knuckles. Either way based.
>causing hair to fall out
God got to him first
I don’t care if you are a nerd, lift weights, and stop wearing t-shirts.
This is every manchild body ever
I always thought Batman was moronic though. He was always meh, but his villain stories are good.
>But-t this comi-
No one cares, comics were always moronic. Even more so now because no one is reading them and everyone involved doesn’t care.
The audience will forgive if a character is perfect, or almost perfect, if they are given a viable in-universe explanation for it. No story works without suspension of disbelief, and audiences can go really far, but they still need some sort of verisimilitude, some sort of reasoning. Batman is "perfect" because he spent a decade training to become like that. Unrealistic, but explainable. Same principal that one punch man satirizes. Rey skywalker has no training, no reason to be perfect. She just is. The feeling of a character "earning" skills, even realistically unobtainable ones, still has to be earned
Batman fails constantly though, his failure creates Two-Face.
Can any of you cite a specific comic where Batman gets literally raped?
>Mary sue
All of the best comics are basically about how he is just as insane as the people he fights.
Batman is known for having the best villains this “Batman is perfect” thing is only in the shittiest source material I don’t remember Batman being infallible at all, I think it’s more when he teams up with heroes who have super powers which I never read anyway
One of my favorite things about Dobson is that despite everything surrounding him, literally not one person has read any of his actual comics beyond his autobiographical/strawman ones and the consolewars garfield one.
He made like half a dozen different series that never went anywhere beyond two issues at best, but you never see them mentioned in any of these threads. Compare that to CWC and Sonichu where both are practically synonymous, Dobson is a laughingstock while his actual serious comics are unknown beyond half a dozen people.
Who has read Alex ze Pirate? Who has read Formera?
all I know is LESBIAN KICK
He doesnt beat the joker
Its not even a good example. Batman is a dude with no superpowers other than being really rich in a world full of freaks. Superman would be the obvious Mary Sue parallel and that doesn't really count because the whole point of the character is that he's an all powerful paragon of justice.
Kryptonite existing at all automatically negates Superman qualifying as a Gary Stu.
Batman is a billionaire, is fit, tall, and yet he’s an incel. He never had any kids of his own, and every criminal he has ever caught has always broke free, making his efforts pointless. He’s not a Mary Sue, because he has never succeeded, he’s a failure. Take your blue bear homosexualry and go.
>yet he’s an incel.
Catwoman, Talia, Wonder woman, Batgirl (just the mainstream ones)
>never had any kids of his own
Damian
>incel
Do you even know what that means?
He's not involuntarily celibate. Not even celibate, really.
When he is celibate, it's completely voluntary. Every chick in Gotham would jump onto his billionaire dick if he'd let them. It'd be a Braveheart charge towards Wayne Manor.
>It'd be a Braveheart charge towards Wayne Manor.
what would they be shouting?
>ALIMONYYYYYYYYY!
or
>CHILD SUPPOOOOOOOOOORT!
I see it more as a charge away from wayne maner the next morning
>RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!
>I don’t know what to tell ya Commissioner, apparently Bruce Wanye raped over a thousand broads last night.
>I dunno, Montoya... Bruce Wayne? A thousand?
>OMG BELIEVE WOMEN YOU CHUD!
>any hero who wins in any story is a mary sue
So it has absolutely no meaning?
mary sue is inserting a character into an already existing property who is "too important", "too beloved" and "too powerful". It's a subjective term. You can't just retroactively apply it to main characters.
>Dobson being right
Wtf
You're a moron. Batman has many flaws, and isn't an inserted fanfic character anyway.
Male Mary Sues are ok because there is an inherent meta quality about them that makes them enjoyable. Nobody will argue that Reacher, Batman, and James Bond aren’t male power fantasies. We want to say “hell yeah” as they beat the shit out of the bad guy and frick the hot chick.
The issue with female Mary Sues like Rey and Captain Marvel is they’re inserted into traditionally male franchises and we’re expected by the writers to view these characters as fleshed out human beings. If call Rey a MS, there will be a legion of homosexuals ready to debate me on that. Notice how female Mary Sues are more acceptable in female franchises (Twlight, Barbie, etc.)?
Did you really have a 300 reply Dobson thread? I... what? Why?
Some anons have theorized that jannies (the unpaid ones who can't ban people) can no longer delete threads.
When did this happen?
this weekend when multiple blatant shiposting threads were left up for 300 replies but had individual posts in them deleted.
>Batman
>Perfect
Batman is a homosexual that plays catch and release with monsters so he can keep LARPing every night.
Fricking moron. Mary Sue refers to the original character who people noticed exhibited those qualities. It's not a gendered term.
>That blue bear won't make it into my factory, I assure you.
>My Oompa Loompa guards have the finest weaponry and have been trained in the art of candy combat.
>There's no way Dobson is stealing my three-course meal gum.
Hahahahaha my /druk/ thread kicked the shit out of your shitty baid thread. LOSER, GET GUD N00B