Hi, we're the Fremen. We've only ever had access to shitty moth vehicles our entire lives but in one scene we'll go from that to hopping into capital warships that aren't ours and pilot them vs the awaiting armadas of the universe that are hanging out in orbit.
Yes.
These were Iranian commandos
Don't they have unlimited access to the drug that makes you super smart and prescient?
Houthis are kinda based but they would evaporate against any real western opposition
Evaporate into the mountains hold out for a decade then eventually win the war.
Funny how that happens
Kek very true, all you have to do to beat the MIC is bait them into taking action and then disappear, wasting all their money
>Houthis are kinda based but they would evaporate against any real western opposition
they've been in war with enemies with western weapons for TEN years
do you think western armies are gonna magically change something?
Houthis have done nothing but execute yemeni citizens and bomb other poorly trained arab militias pretending to be soldiers since they seized power. They haven't fought a single real military force.
>muh not a real army
every time
maybe if the saudis buy three hundred F15 more, will they become a real army?
>do you think western armies are gonna magically change something?
If you knew how ludicrously incompetent Arabs have been at warfare the past century, you wouldn't ask this question. Iraq had by far the most powerful military in the Arab world under Saddam, and the US steamrolled the country in 3 weeks. Western militaries can't be beaten in conventional warfare, that's why all the success stories thirdies have had are all guerilla warfare, Viet Cong, Taliban etc...
The North Vietnamese army was a conventional army
>real western armies
What's your point? It's just like a corporation where there are engineers and salesmen that actually make money and then there's the woke administrative class that does nothing but propagandize people
They're plucky like that
Formerly lucky
Reminds me of the Reavers from Firefly being drooling lunatic rapists with 100% aggressor response but are chill with interstellar and battle piloting.
I always wondered this, not to mention maintenance of said ships, their engines and reactors...
>Raaaaghhh Reeeeblaaaargh Oh no, the 14th binary uplink to the plasma reactor relay is only measuring 36 Gigawatts which is only 85% effective meaning sub par reactor cooling which could eventually lead to meltdown in the right conditions at maximum impulse speed Raaaaaghhh Bllliuirgrghghghg
>oh my heckin science they're running without containment!
>the lasgun is firing
>the flachette launcher is firing, but is traversed around the wrong way
>the shield is malfunctioning
>I am telling Abu Hajar to advance on the intercom, but Abu Hajar can't hear me and is reversing.
>I look through the hufhuf oil lens and see twelve sardaukar tanks 50 yards away.
>Someone hands me a spice coffee.
They only reav out when they're around non-reavers. That's why they don't rape, kill, and eat each other.
It’s a space western. The reavers are Indians. Whedon just threw in all the Event Horizon stuff so he wouldn’t get cancelled for racism. Don’t @ me pajeets, I mean Native American Indians.
>My Count! The Fremen of Arrakis have landed a couple of ships they stole from the Sardaukar there's thousands of them, they intend to butcher our entire planetary population
>"That seems improbable, do they have shields?"
>No...
>"Then Shoot them and stop bothering me"
Uh Fremen sister?
They don’t have shields on Arrakis because they attract the worms. They use them on other planets
Isn't their a giant shield around the towns though? Is that just outside of worm jurisdiction?
Arrakeen was located within a rock basin where the worms could not get into. Paul nukes the rock wall to breach a hole for the worms
Oh yeah
Seething faith makes you instantly understand foreign warship console ui, dumbass
Drinking the worm poison makes you see visions.
Drinking the worm cum makes you understand foreign warship console ui
Mashallah brothers.
Salami wrapped in bacon.
Probably like Vietnam where they have "volunteer" Atreides advisors piloting everything
Dune doesn't really do computers so the ships are all going to be a bit more intuitive
Actualy the logistics don't make any sense if you account for just the Fremen because they are "millions' while the casualties from the Jihad are billions.
So its better to think about it as mass revolt in other planets against the houses fueld by the religion of Muad'Dib as a messiah.
Tolkien actually said dune was shit, not enough tax policy
This has been explained previously in these threads. "Killing billions" amounts to the glassing of only a single world, which is very easily possible in the context with a relatively small crew on space faring warship. It's assumed the Freman jihad affected multiple worlds.
It sounds like you and previous threads of speculators haven't read the books. Why do this? Why speculate over material you can easily read and get all the concrete explanations you'll ever get?
Nuking anyone in the Dune setting is incredibly taboo. It's more about the religion surrounding Paul spreading like wildfire and causing instability.
Force projection is also extremely expensive in the Dune universe. The armies involved are very small given the scope of the world.
I like how the Harkonens are all brutal albino doucherags but they have a guy who joyously makes black goo fireworks for the deathmatch arena.
Why did the Firemen adopt middle eastern Earth culture when Arrakis is a completely different planet. Is that the twist? That earth was Arrakis the entire time?
Because Joe Biden opened the border
Convergent evolution works for culture too. But they do originally come from a religion that was mainly influence by Islam, forgot its name, and they went to Arrakis as a place where they could practice it without oppression, like the various religious groups moved to America from Europe.
That’s what you end up looking like and doing if you live in the desert
I think it's bullshit the emperor didn't challenge Paul to a ping-pong match
HAAAAAAAAAAAA
In the books, the Fremen were too dimwitted to even speculate the existence of planets with non-desert environments. Yet somehow, they were somehow able to coordinate and execute a galactic invasion.
you can argue they're familiar with the tech and have shot enough down unlike mudslimes irl. Especially after the Sardukar get involved their tech probably falls into their hands too. Plus Paul is probably familiar. Also the families probably don't see it coming and get btfo. There are bigger issues with this movie then that.
The book also made clear they had fancy tech of their own and weren't complete savages, plus, even before Paul's arrival they were led by a white man (Liet Kynes)
The book *also* made clear they were off-world colonists who exploited the planet and harvested spice just like the Atreides and Harkonnen and weren't the faultless oppressed indigenous people the movies want to portray them as.
These guys wanted to "terraform" an entire planet, basically fricking up the indigenous ecosystem in the process, just so they could live more comfortably. That was their difference to the imperial houses who just wanted to export the riches to their home planets where they already were living comfortably. Considering Spice was a renewable resource, what the Harkonnens and the Emperor wanted to do was probably more sustainable than what the Fremens wanted.
Dumbass. The Spacing Guild were forced to pilot the heigliners. Why? Because the power to destroy a thing, controls a thing. No other opposing fleets exist because the Spacing Guild grounds them. Frick off.
The movie excluded that. I don’t think the guild was ever mentioned in part 2
The spacing who? Never even mentioned in the movie.
The navigators guild fly all the ships, they ally with Paul in the book because he has the spice they need to fly spaceships.
Space travel is very easy, the navigators guild keeps that a secret. They just like getting high on the spice, they snort and inject that shit.
So what you're saying is that it makes no sense in the movie.
>spacing guild lands emperor's ships on arrakis
>paul defeats the emperor and takes over
>threatens to destroy the spice if the other houses don't submit to his rule
>great houses refuse
>spacing guild ceases to exist without the spice so they join paul
>they fly his fremen warriors out to subdue the great houses
what's not making sense?
Spacing Guild? What spacing guild? I don't remember seeing them in the movie. Paul never parlayed with the Guild. Nobody even mentioned the Guild in part 2. Not the emperor, not Paul, not the bene gesserit, not the Harkonnen... it's like they didn't even exist.
i think they were in the first dunc when shaddams envoy gave the scroll to Leto right in the beginning. they were the dudes in the masks filled with orange liquid
also the dude to his left has a staff with a black bulb on top that looks like a star map
you could spend forever in the prop department for this movie
i've never seen a more fully realized aesthetic
mmmmmmm harry potter movies?
anyway, back to dune
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it really is a perfect movie.
it was impossible for part 2 to match or surpass it.
gotta wait for the home release to go frame by frame and find all those juicy details in the sets and props that are impossible to see while watching and the theater.
None of that spacing guild stuff is in the MOVIES.
a few thousand illiterate arab nomads defeated two of the world's greatest empires and conquered half the known world. They then adopted and used the bureaucracy of those empires to advance their culture a thousand years in a generation. People learn and adapt pretty quickly.
Also no one flies the big ships, that's navigators job and Paul has all the spice so the navigators are his b***h.
>Also no one flies the big ships, that's navigators job and Paul has all the spice so the navigators are his b***h.
This was not explained clearly enough in the film for the Indian and Chinese markets to understand
It wasn't explained at all period. It's only mentioned in the first movie.
More like the two empires bled each other out over a decades long war and Muhammad’s followers rose at just the right moment to seize the disputed territories from the exhausted empires
>so little water on the planet that they have to drink their own piss
>somehow are able to create advanced tech
the more you think about the logic in the dune universe the more it falls apart
It’s 25,000 years into the future anon
Maybe what they have is primitive compared to what is being used in the other worlds
you would think 20 years of military campaign in the middle east would prove something.
No money? No worries sell Oil and Opium to the west.
No food? No worries just rade and force the local populance to supserv
No Weapons / Tech ? no worries just buy cheap goods from china and attach undetonated western bombs to them.
Humans as surprisingly adaptive, which is the theme of the hole book. I was just mentioning the middle east but in Hurberts world the hole galaxy has fallen into a feudal decadency, using old tech they have no understanding of or possible to create anew.
Movies should at least have Paul teach them the Weirding Way.
Herbert was moronic when it came to military stuff. Or logistics. Or anything of scale.
Why does Hollywood hate color?
dedicated to the brave mujafremen of afghanistan
We, the Fremen, are extremely strong and quick thanks to decades of malnourishment and drinking our own piss.
something something its the spice something something
they evidently have guild navigators on the ship too
the emporer had like 2 ships there
>people finally realizing Hebert was a hack
Thank you Denis for bringing awareness
If you took a cave man from 10000 BC and gave them a car they would be a better driver than 99% of people within a few days
The tougher the environment the better the man, it’s why citycucks are so worthless and soft.
as a chud, I love this non political non woke free palestine movie
part 2 was like seeing another culture on another planet for real. And the VFX were so good that I couldn't even tell what was CG
i saw it in a Dolby Theater and it was insane
>And the VFX were so good that I couldn't even tell what was CG
thats a good point that i hadn't thought of until now
i cant remember a single scene where i though "hey thats some good cgi"
i just watched it and was IN the movie the whole time.
wait, no there was one time. the fireworks on giedi prime made me think that.
i think giedi prime and harkonnen tech has the most cgi feel of anything in the movie.
which is a good thing
on arakkis, everything feels real, natural. everything to do with the fremen feels idk, just normal. like it just is. no need for some complex reason for why it is, you see it and it just is.
but on giedi prime, everything feels fake, everything feels unnatural. even in the film the fremen say their bodies are full of dirty chemicals, their bodies, their tech, their culture is all fake and unnatural.
>i just watched it and was IN the movie the whole time.
yeah it's really quite the achievement
so what were they supposed to do, attack the ships in orbit?
how would they stand any chance?
a bunch of sandBlack folk against elite navy?
the houses can just jump away, can't they?
what are the fremen going to do they don't have navigators