SO YOU'RE TELLING ME, AT THE HEIGHT OF THE IRAQ INVASION, AMERIMUTTS HAD THE AUDACITY TO PORTRAY THEMSELVES AS THE UNDERDOGS AND DEPICTED THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRY THEY WERE INVADING AS A RICH POWERFUL EMPIRE?????
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No it was an adaptation of a graphic novel and had no hidden political message
frick off, it was jingoism at its finest, there's literally a scene where the queen gives a speech in front of the council urging them to declare war
ok moron
i accept your concession
Just for any onlookers, and for this guy...
Bothering people until they give up and ignore you is childish, and does not make you seem intelligent
>tripgay lecturing anyone else
Do you see a tripcode? Kek. Just a namegay man
a tripgay with any other name is just as israelited
You can't be a tripgay without a tripcode. Lurk moar
You're a gay and no one needed you to point this out
struck a nerve?
nice selfie
You may be the single dumbest person to ever post on this board.
It's an adaptation of a Frank Miller comic, which is an adaptation of an earlier version of the movie made decades earlier, which itself is loosely based on the actual historical fricking battle, which actually took place.
The movie version is of course dramatically exaggerated, though it uses the same exaggeration of the comic and previous movie adaptation. True: Three hundred Spartans held back the entirety of the Persian empire which was tens of thousands strong. Also true: They had 4,000 other men there with them.
In the true story, there were 300 Spartans, 300 helots (slaves they brought with them they forced to fight) and the remaining 3700 came from other Greek city states. They didn't hold them off for months like the adaptations suggest, they stalled them for four days, then on the fifth day the Persians attacked. The Persians were humiliated and soundly defeated on that night, but by the following day they'd discovered the secret pass and were moving in for a pincer. This is the moment the -still, greatly exaggerated- legend comes from. Leonidas ordered everyone to retreat, except for his 300 Spartans, their 300 slaves, and 900 other men from the other citystates who refused to flee with the others. The 1500 Greeks were slaughtered on day 6, which did trigger a full blown war.
So unless you're suggesting George W. Bush built a time machine to go back to Ancient Greece and set this all up as "PR for the invasion of Iraq" shut the frick up.
see
Reiteration is not a counterclaim
zack snyder was involved in the screenplay, not frank miller, and he purposefully included scenes where leonidas extols the importance of MUH FREEDOM that is not in the comics, and the queen lecturing the councilmen to send the army to go die like good goys
You're dumb. There are thousands of stories, Anon. The people at the top choose which ones to amplify in order to get their message across
Anon, the movie's production in no way coincides with the Iraq war. Just screeching "No, you're dumb!" isn't an argument you fricking idiot. It's a story that's been told over and over because it's an entertaining story. nothing in the story matches the circumstances of the Iraq war. The Persians are the invading force, the Persian army is full of diversity. Greeks are not Americans, the meeting you discuss is not encouraging them to go to war, but encouraging them to defend their own fricking country you absolute midwit. There was no queen in the US. Who were the mystics paid off to advise against defense meant to represent? At the time of the invasion of Iraq, the measure was 100% supported by both Republicans and Democrats.
9/11 was 2001, the Invasion of Iraq was in 2003. 300 didn't come out until 2006.
Again: You are one shockingly stupid motherfricker.
>At the time of the invasion of Iraq, the measure was 100% supported by both Republicans and Democrats.
not true, there were quite a few dissidents on the democrat side, like for instance paul wellstone who was so adamantly opposed that dick cheney crashed his plane with no survivors
Black person I can pull up the video of Hillary Clinton and Al Gore promoting the war. I can show you video of every single fricking Democrat voting in favor of the war. Shut your ignorant, Zoomer ass the frick up, the internet is forever. You can't lie for long you stupid, miserable homosexual.
Our shitposts will blot out the board!
Cool, how about the specific decision to adapt that story into a movie in a post-9/11, post-Iraq Invasion world where every single person involved would have been aware of the implications and it would have colored their creative choices, both intentionally and subconsciously, in the same way that every work of art is a reflection of its time. Fricking idiot.
>I can't stop thinking about politics so that means nobody else can either
Give it a break, man. You're going to give yourself an aneurysm and an early grave.
This is why Arabs need a genocide, as inhuman as israelites.
>a movie in a post-9/11, post-Iraq Invasion world
Is your stupid ass seriously suggesting that after 9/11 no historical event in which some of the bad guys are brown people should ever be depicted again you increasingly moronic, unrealistic frickwit? What are you even suggesting you absolute frickwit, that the stories should be re-written to fit your "diverse" anti-white view of the world, or that anything where whites aren't the bad guy should simply be erased from history? It happened. The story had already been adapted multiple times. Deal with it homosexual.
And lol you're still so stupid you think this is what an Iraqi looks like.
Nta, you actually are right about everything but the fact that this comic book adaptation was selected by ~~*Hollywood*~~) at this precise point in time, after nine one one, and during the Iraq stuff is a bit of a strange coincidence, don’t you think?
The same year Apocalypto, Idiocracy, Click, Silent Hill, The Prestige, X-Men: The Last Stand, Children of Men, Ultraviolet, Southland Tales, A Scanner Darkly, Crank, Stay Alive, Little Man, Big Mama's House 2, Superman Returns, Eragon, Taladega Nights, Bandidas, Snakes on a Plane, Slither, The Covenant, Spymate and a couple thousand other movies came out.
Sometimes a movie is just a fricking movie.
I would take the jingoism of this movie any day of the week over what's going on now with films
>jingoism
I can't help but notice that I only ever hear this word come up when leftist soi-munching homosexuals get triggered by something in a movie, most frequently anything that depicts a White Western nation as anything OTHER than pure evil.
they say the word "freedom" an awful lot
>Why is historical event historically accurate
moron
>300
>historically accurate
??????
there have been people worshipping goat of mendes since human beings entered the middle east
there are human-goat hybrids in this movie, and you're telling me this movie is historically accurate?
I didn't make that claim, but do you really watch a Snyderfilm and expect to be able to take the events at face value?
i'm merely BTFOing the guy who claimed it was "historically accurate", i dunno why you even commented on my post
because snyder's films are symbolic. if you take the goat men as a symbol for baphomet worship, it literally makes perfect sense
no it does not, stop being obtuse
Okay..? Any other explanation than? Besides mine, which is a dead obvious takeaway for anyone who knows about ancient religions? Who's really being obtuse here?
Isn't the movie just a campfire glorified retelling of events from the one Spartan that was sent back, who wasnt present for all events?
yes and you are the only non moron who understands it, congrats
The story is not “jingoistic” but there are elements clearly adapted to appeal to xenophobia (you are clearly too moronic to have pointed these out though lol)
Making the ambassador of PERSIA black (the Greeks literally mocked upper class Persians as being too fair), portraying immortals as literal demons and making xerxes scenes feel like a predatory homosexual come to mind
But you’re just a homosexual making a shitty post on Cinemaphile so idk why I’m explaining this
Nope, no jingoism here, none at all, no siree
This is like calling zelensky jingoistic for telling people to fight russia
But you are likely a chudcel anyway
the problem is that in real life, america was persia, and iraq was sparta
>believing that wasn't Snyder's point
>This is like calling zelensky jingoistic for telling people to fight russia
that's unironically true though, do you even know what jingoistic means you ESL?
>movie about a king obsessed with gloriously dying for his country
>not jingoistic
Christ, you sound like a boomer. It was based on a comic book that was very loosely based on an even that occurred thousands of years ago. Chill out.
It contains tons of scenes that are not in the comic, such as the Queen's speech urging the council to send the army to war
and Leonidas' interaction with xerxes contains 100% more lecturing about freedom vs slavery that was not there in the comic
Y he got broom on his helmet
its just decoration
In retrospect Persia seemed like a better place back then
ya basically. Lol i remember being in high school at the time many white trash girls and boys identifying as the spartans and the persians as the "terrorists" they fighting.
Its funny how israelites own the minds of their goys in this country.
its funny how /misc/ owns the minds of posters on this site
>/misc/ out of nowhere
rent free lol
Yeah damn, I wonder where these anti-semites are coming from
yeah bro, frick the anti semites for insulting israel! i'm enlisting right now to go die in a third world shithole!
still remember blonde women getting emotional about it. Its hilarious how persians were basically iraq, afghanis and boogeyman iran. Movie came out height of sand Black person boogeyman in America.
>ITT: moron finds out films have political subtext and thinks he's a genius
embarrassing
the bad guys were the americans. Notice in orgy tent there was blacks, trannies, handicapped people and weird animals? It's literally America right fricking now. Only a delusional glowie would say otherwise
Yes the "good" guys were the ones who would throw weak or deformed babies into a pit to die and would force their children to beat the shit out of each other is freezing climates. Yup, that's who we chose to represent us.
Fricking moron.
If you were in college at the time of this movie's release you would know that college football teams were literally chanting "Ha-oo, Ha-oo" like the spartans. moron
Audience reaction ≠ Creative intent. Just because those shooters in the 90s played DOOM doesn't mean DOOM is the reason those schools were shot up. Correlation ≠ Causation.
it's a TOTAL COHENCIDENCE that Hollyjews released a movie about dying gloriously in war at a time when american army needed men to enlist to protect israel
>at a time when american army needed men to enlist
Three years after the invasion, the movie was meant to encourage them to... join the citystate of Sparta you profound fricking moron?
the war on terror was still on you zoomer
Not with Persia you smoothbrain frickwit, nothing in your moronic narrative matches the movie at all. You're plucking it straight out of your moronic ass.
>Not with Persia you smoothbrain frickwit
Americans at that time believed so though. Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, it's all just brown people for them
>Americans at that time believed so though.
No, they fricking didn't. You aren't one, you're a mouthbreathing frickwit. You're so insanely out of touch you think a historical event from ancient Greece was created as propaganda to justify a war in Iraq three years after it started. Literally everything you say is wrong.
>movie about white underdogs dying gloriously fighting against brown barbarian hordes has absolutely zero propaganda behind it
>OP is so stunningly moronic this is his idea of a brown person.
>thread about 300
>posts the sequel that came out a decade later
Hang on, lemme dump these "a-rabs" your dumbass is tarding about.
moron OP thinks this is brown.
yeah, that's what uneducated americans in the mid 2000s thought so too
No one but you has ever suggested this moronation. Trying to pass off your own stupidity onto the people you're ignorantly insulting out of pathetic penis envy is pathetic lol. Literally every fricking thing your dumbass has said has been wrong.
>penis envy out of nowhere
woman-tier argument
The US is the biggest empire ever in the history of mankind. The obsessive shitting on the US without any knowledge of it at all stinks of penis envy. Of coming from some nowhere shithole and being butthurt somewhere else is bigger and better. Hence having to come to an American website to whine about it lol.
calm your breasts, roastie
>This ignorant third world homosexual things Sigmund Freud was a roastie.
>things
lmao ESL
>the country who's language you're speaking
lol
lmao even
You're so buck broken you're reduced to fixating on typos and unable to even type out complete sentences lol. Completely and totally owned.
>buck broken
>interracial gay fantasy out of nowhere
He's right though, you are buck broken, homosexual. Wow, I'm a massive newbie and even I'm familiar with that meme, lol.
They're right about you having penis-envy too.
>not that anon, but-
sure buddy, totally
How could you doubt me? I am TrickFinger, the gayest autist newbie to ever shitpost.
No, this is what Snyder thinks persians look like. What a complete moron
he also thought spartans looked like shrimp on the barbie convicts, but this is the average """"historical""""" anglo movie for you
>PORTRAY THEMSELVES
No. The film 300 portrays ancient Spartans.
Sparta is in Greece. Greece is a place in the Mediterranean. America is a country on the other side of the world. A whole different continent.
Also the Persians are from a region in what is now modern day Iran. Iran and Iraq have warred with each other for many years.
So, in conclusion, OP: You're a fricking tardburger.
I wish mid 2000s america had this level of education, but no, they see gerald butler shouting FREEDOM on screen and think, wow this guy is great, and see a dirty swarthoid shouting "slavery" and think wow, Asia sure sucks ass, we should definitely invade them and give them a taste of freedom
Snyder is vehemently anti-war. Have you not seen Watchmen?
Watchmen? You mean the film where Snyder inserts scenes not present in the comic just to give Nite Owl screentime to punch random mooks?
Nice strawman. Still anti-war.
that's not what strawman means you dingus
>Spartans
>American
>send young spartans to harass and kill helots who work in the fields as part of rite of passage
>boast about freedom
I don't know if it had something to do with me being 19 at the time when this came out, but I will always hold the opinion that 300 was one of the best made examples of Western Civilization/masculine propaganda that we ever produced and that held wide popularity and acclaim.
It's hard to remember, but does anybody here know friends or family members that went off to those desert Wars between the years of roughly 2004 and 2010? I remember hearing some pretty interesting stories about the mental training they went through to prepare for that, some real 1984 style "hour of hate" stuff. Which I don't even think is that bad, to be honest. I'm not amazed at the lien of the propaganda, I'm just amazed at this point that it existed in the first place.
Praise SOL
>Euros view every protagonist in media as an American
Why are leftists so obsessive?
of course it is an american movie, americans were meant to identify with the spartans, since they were white and the enemy was brown
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED YOU FRICKWIT. It's an actual fricking story. The Persian Empire isn't portrayed as "all brown" in the movie. This is the guy who played Xerxes, he's Brazilian. There were numerous black soldiers shown, most of the freaks were white, the giant was angloid, the Immortals are meant to appear Asian, the dude who says "our arrows will blot out the sun" is a niggie. If as you idiotically assert it was meant to represent DURKAS like your ugly moron ass, THEN WHY IN THE FRICK DID THEY MAKE IT SO DIVERSE YOU ABSOLUTE moron?
>thing conservaive americans like: strong brave men fighting and dying for their country
>things conservative americans hate: brown people from another continent, dysgenic freaks, homosexual degeneracy
it's not that hard to see the propaganda bro
Lmfao, keep moving those goalposts homosexual. You just got told. First you said it was about the Iraq war, now you're spreading it out to just be general things conservatives didn't like.
I accept your full concession b***h. Glad you can admit when you're wrong and you've been TOLD.
>You just got told.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise I was talking to a middle-aged black woman
Unsurprising since you clearly can't tell one race from another, sperg. Here, some more Iraqis for you.
American conservatives are dysgenic homosexual freaks though?
Wrong.
But Henry Cavill is a lib
Then why did he get fired from the Witcher literally for being a "chud"?
He didn't get fired. Do you believe every tabloid rumor you read? He left because he had creative disagreements and has a new contract with Amazon for his 40k project
>He didn't get fired. Do you believe every tabloid rumor you read?
They weren't tabloid rumors, they were direct quotes from the dumb c**ts making the show.
Some random b***h on set going to Vanity Fair and making a story up doesn't hold any truth or value. Maybe you should stop using the internet. You're very impressionable and gullible.
Some random namegay on Cinemaphile asserting that things that bent over and fricked his moronic stody doesn't hold any truth or value. Shut the frick up and stop posting moronic shit.
He's a wh40k fan, basically a crypto-fascist
kek if american conservatives hate homosexuals why do you think they would idenitfy with spartans? they're historically infamous for gayness and pederasty, probably more prevalent in their culture than any country in history
uneducated americans don't know that fact. college footballers love naming their teams after spartans
College football is one of the most infamous industries for male rape and hazing. Point stands
Like I said, pure pathetic penis-envy. You keep shitting on the country who's language you're speaking, who's website you're using. The internet you're using, the electricity powering it. Probably even the computer or phone you're typing on, big daddy America gave you that. So every word you type, every post you shit is you thanking Uncle Sam for rubbing his big smelly wiener on your stupid face. Keep kissing it homosexual, your every post is you tonguing America's BALLS.
>gay fantasies out of nowhere
OP thinks this is what an Iraqi looks like lol.
Lol, OP is a faceblind autist.
This is what OP thinks Iraq looks like.
frank miller should've been ashamed of this crap novel
>AAAAAHAHHHAHHHAHHH AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICA AMERICA OOOOOOHHHHH THE UNITED STATES DID A THING IM SO MAAAAAAAAAAD FRICK IM SO OBSESSED AHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE NOOOOOOOOO
it was just a capeshit movie based on a comic book homie, chill the frick out
I just wanted to apologize for being a moronic newbie who doesn't know how to use tripcodes. Clearly every thing I've said is wrong, and I need to take my homosexual ass back to plebbit and go be gay there instead of shitting this site up.
bin Laden was still alive.
We were not leaving until bin Laden was dead.
Afghanistan is an open sewer.
We looked at the next place, which was going to Pakistan and nuclear disarmament.
But guess who became the mouthy b***h saying "bin Laden is a hero for all Iraqis!"
So we blew him up.
We wanted to leave.
Then all the liberal political machines here called us plunderers and war criminals and you break it you buy it, just ask Vlad Putin the master diplomat.
So we went door to door against feral torturers, and won. The Arabs there liked us better than their own.
Then the liberal political machine crashed the market to win.
They tried going door to door in Mount Everest.
They used the torturers to shoot bin Laden in the face, then threw the torturers in prison.
They left Iraq which is still going.
ISIS formed which kept the war going for another decade.
The same thing repeats a decade later with Afghanistan.
We have to do the same amount of work, but the entire region is in a famine, while the liberals who ruined it bail out starving China.
Anyways, splatter kills set to heavy metal music to validate audience and forget day to day troubles sells tickets.
Make Dredd 2.
Frick this woke shit.
Well, it was before the religitard sand people revolution
>namegay responding to his own abhorrent posts
Frick you it was the guy I was arguing with. I have now applied tripcode. I wanted to be above this
testing now to see if i remember the password
>spartan: for freedom! and democracy!
>also spartan: *owns 1440 helot slaves*
>also spartan: *commits terror against helot population to cow them into submission*
>you there, gentile, what is your profession?
>i-i'm a patriot sir
>spartans? what is your profession?
>DE CEP TION
The rise of the true TrickFinger
Disregard that, I suck wieners
Its satire critiquing fascism
Shhh don't tell him that he'll give you a lecture on Eastern politics and how they magically change the message of the film
>He fell right into the trap little realizing the only thing gayer and more despised than a namegay on Cinemaphile is a tripgay.
who cares what others think? it has personal meaning to me, that's why i use it. search up what TrickFinger is. pretty good, meaningful music
This, fascism in the form of ever encroaching Islam.
This thread sucks I'm gonna save it.
Why would ukrops supply ruskies with coffins? Antifas are atheists so why bury them at all?
It's about an actual historical event between greeks and Persians, moron.