Hollywood is dead

So writers and actors are going to get their demands. But it’s a case of be careful what you ask for. What reality is, Netflix and studios are going to cut continent and up prices. So these writers and actors are going have less jobs. That’s just reality now.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/25/entertainment/wga-strike-analysis/index.html

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is exactly what will happen. Actors and writers will get royalties off steaming. But show better get a lot of clicks or Netflix, HBO, Disney will pull it. What did with Willow TV series

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But show better get a lot of clicks or Netflix, HBO, Disney will pull it
      Does this mean that they'll hire writers that'll actually write shit people want to watch?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be silly. They're going to double down.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you mean big IP shows like Wednesday with tiktok stupid dance tie ins, than yes. Shows like Mindhunter, executive wont even wipe his ass with it. So get ready for nothing but soulless IP shit. 5 Stranger Things Spin off. Uncle Fester spin off.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        no, all the same shit writers that went on strike are back in employment and this time they brought friends

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      so what does "studios cutting content" look like? id think:

      >LESS shows per year
      >higher amounts of season cancellations
      >lower film budgets
      >higher film budgets, but less movies per year

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        And shows will just dispense. Say you like Forensic Files. Gone. Shows too
        old, not enough views to justify paying royalties. Unless Officr, Friends, Parks & Rex, Big Bang Theory, few shows are going have rewatch ability to justify paying for them

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      More like, shows will be released on Blu-Ray, so companies don’t have to pay for their costs, and instead they can generate more revenue.
      This will not make a lot of money anyways, but at least they won’t be unprofitable anymore

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think that’s only real solution. Or go Amazon and Apple route where have pay to rent or buy seasons of shows

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are they gonna make blurays on demand? If people aren't even watching it on the streaming service, even less people will buy a physical copy.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OP replies to himself in the same ESL babble

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        They going cut continent steaming sir

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah well Willow was a pile of shit. 99% if new movies and shows are pure garbage. The writers can’t write anymore. They deserve to starve.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They were already removing shows to skip paying residuals for their original content before the strike started, dumbass. That’s not going to happen with licensed shows they paid to get on their service but they will have to start paying the talent based on their popularity on streaming now. Which is a big part of what people wanted.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      DO NOT FRICKING REDEEM
      ARE YOU MAD
      ARE YOU MAD
      SIR WHY DID YOU REDEEM

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that streaming prices would go up as a direct result of this agreement was pretty obvious. Streaming services aren't just going to accept something that eats into their profit margin.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >profit margin.
      you don't even know what you don't know homosexual go back to redddit

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Calm down, Shlomo. It makes sense from a business standpoint.

        For sure. And commercials. And show better have a high rewatch ability or it’s just going to disappear

        Yeah, I think that too. They'll be less willing to take risks on shows that aren't huge and immediate hits.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          does this mean we'll have more woke shit? or more traditional shit? woke content usually gets shit on majorly but they keep pumping it out for some reason

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most popular shows are woke. Last of US, Stranger Things, Wednesday. What none woke shows are popular? Yellowstone?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Start with "what non-woke shows still exist"

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              One Piece

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Trans actor

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >What none woke shows are popular? Yellowstone
              Funnily, Yellowstone is still very woke. morons are fooled into thinking it's "conservative" because everybody in the show drives trucks and wears cowboy hats. The public is unbelievably stupid. Note for any woke showrunners who might be reading this, disguise your leftist slop simply by draping your characters in American flags and pointy snake boots and you will face no resistance.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah conservatives are surface level aesthetic worshipping morons. Been known for a long time.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s another “Anon think ESG is mystical israelite alchemy” and not a failed throw-shit-at-the-wall fintech half assedly conceived during a low interest rate environment episode

        Ooo I love this one. Klaus Schwab needs to win an Emmy.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          esg scores are their best tool yet, banking shill

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If I could short ESG I would. It’s typical shitty finance vaporware they threw out at the height of the anti-Trump derangement because it seemed like a good idea at the time, as people were seemingly stoked on Social Justice. Of course their finger was nowhere near the pulse. I could’ve told them things would get reactionary but alas I am not israeli enough to get a nepo job at a bank.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              we`ll see

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is no third party for them to point the finger at if nothing improves after the strike is done. It's obvious that they'll need a higher-up from one of these unions to act as a fall guy if things end up going sour. Fran Drescher has already stated concerns that prolonging of strikes would give "hate groups" a window to gain a large mainstream platform

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Fran Drescher
                That gangraped moron israelite stayed lefty after all that? Big lol

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're a grown man who lives with his mom. You couldn't short a penny stock.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Im an economist who lives with his sick dad.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, literal bank shill here, just validating the obvious. ESG noncompliance is a deal breaker for our investment divisions. We've pulled out of supporting banking for fossil fuel focused companies and if a company has the slightest chance of coming off as anything except 'socially aware' on gay issues, they're not banking with us. It's pozzed as frick, but my pay is fantastic.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I hope you get AIDS from an exceptionally violent back alley Black gangbang.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      For sure. And commercials. And show better have a high rewatch ability or it’s just going to disappear

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The fact that streaming prices would go up as a direct result of this agreement was pretty obvious
      Might this explain why Amazon is going to be putting Ads in their basic streaming now while charging extra for the higher tier that has no ads?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's because marketing israelites are an entire industry.
        They need to put ads on shit or else that entire scumfrick industry goes under.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      For sure. And commercials. And show better have a high rewatch ability or it’s just going to disappear

      Calm down, Shlomo. It makes sense from a business standpoint.

      [...]

      Yeah, I think that too. They'll be less willing to take risks on shows that aren't huge and immediate hits.

      all of these things were already happening, every streaming service has been getting more expensive while otherwise getting shittier, and most streaming original shows get cancelled after one season. not sure what you think this changes

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Won’t you are not getting is steaming serviced are removing their own content to cut costs. Disney removed Willow TV series. It’s not even a year old because cheaper to remove it than keep it. Now look at The Simpsons. Is that show getting enough clicks for Disney to justify huge amount of royalties going to have to pay to voice actor and committee of writers? Or they going pull the show off the platform.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it’s going to speed it all up, moron

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      so piracy will just increase and the profits wont. I doubt that people are going to pay up during this inflation cycle.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >movies are shit
        >pirate anyway
        don't care.

        Zoomers don't know how to pirate. Piracy is a millennial male anomaly. People in general are addicted to their screens, and subscriptions, especially women. The reality is they are going to continue adding more ads and increasing prices and people will continue to pay for it.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >People in general are addicted to their screens, and subscriptions, especially women.
          Oh boy, I tried to get my boomer mother to watch putlocker and downloaded google chrome adblock for her, so she could watch on her tablet, NOPE, she literally didn't know what to watch unless the tv shows were curated for her, I guess Hollywood will win in the long run since braindead NPCs like women are the majority.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Zoomers won't pay though, they'll just switch to streamers.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a zoomer and guess what, you're a fricking Black person. I pirate ever single movie I watch, and so does every single one of my zoomer friends. it's not a generation issue, it's a normie issue. normals think unironically think you will get fined and jailed for pirating.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >that pic looks like it says "KILL ALL"
          >click on it and its just a building

          Was it intentional? If not thats fricking creepy

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The last line says "Jews". The word is made up by the shadows and the negative space between the bodies.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        But chuds told me piracy actually increases exposure and profits.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          They also told you will never be a woman like 50 times by now.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Exposure yes. That's more people discussing the show meaning more people may check it out (legitimately). Profits, maybe. Not to the show itself, but to merchandise or other physical goods if the show is good.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        you overestimate people, the only ones who pirated are gen x/millenials. Zoomers are genuinely moronic when it comes to actual computer usage

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wanna say that this has to be bullshit on some level, but I've seen so many zoomers ask where to watch something. There are so many mirror sites to watch on and hubs to pirate from. How does this lack of knowledge even happen? Why were we so adamant about finding free stuff and Z/alpha just can't even comprehend it existing?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            They're tablet Apple app brained.

            Colors and shifting toddler shapes around.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why were we so adamant about finding free stuff and Z/alpha just can't even comprehend it existing?

            Let's be real, back in the day if you weren't pirating you were either spending a lot of money on dvds/cds or you were often shit out of luck finding more obscure stuff like anime or niche music acts. It's a lot easier to legally watch or listen to stuff now.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >increase prices while we're smack dab in the middle of a global recession that's hurtling fast toward a global economic depression while corporate greed has decentralized most shows people actually want to watch onto several different platforms nobody wants to pay for while piracy is easier than ever

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >movies are shit
    >pirate anyway
    don't care.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Plus thousand upon thousands of classic films.
      Who the frick want to watch slop from this timeline?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        this. and when a good film actually comes out its almost never from hollywood

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >movies are shit
      >DONT pirate anyway
      >DONT watch in any way
      >DONT consoom the goyslop
      simple as.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t even pirate anymore, none of this shit is worth the time it takes to download it

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >amp link
    KYS

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you pirate it’s better to
    just go back cable. Steaming will be complete dumpster fire. Shows lile could be gone next because of not enough views to justify keeping it. Or get 4 commercials rammed into 20 minute program on top of your fee doubling

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    So studios will be paying more for the same shit writing?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Essentially. Caving to save face but also they know reality. Which is steaming has never been profitable. So writers and actors may think they won but they haven’t. Their will be less jobs for them. Netflix and WB already gutted jobs and it’ll just continue. And studio cab clap back “ we gave them what they wanted”

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm honestly surprised. I thought studios where in a much stronger position, despite the the streaming sinkhole.
        Except Yidney, they're fricked either way

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably, but perhaps not.

      >But show better get a lot of clicks or Netflix, HBO, Disney will pull it
      Does this mean that they'll hire writers that'll actually write shit people want to watch?

      Is there an outside chance this could accidentally turn into a "good" thing for the customer? Shit writers who continuously pump out the Netflix Original (TM) trash get canned when studios can no longer justify the increased cost of what were, before, easy profits. Fewer, more talented writers remain to make shows that are, dare I suggest, kind of good? Who knows, probably this will just accelerate the collapse of western film industry (also a good thing).

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Is there an outside chance this could accidentally turn into a "good" thing for the customer?

        Yes and no. Look at what’s popular. Last of Us. Wednesday, Stranger Things. Mostly shit appeals to tiktok morons.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Is there an outside chance this could accidentally turn into a "good" thing for the customer?
        From the article.
        >The consumer: There wasn’t a noticeable shortage of entertainment content during the strike, but after a 146-day production break, there will be some spacing out of movies and TV shows in the months ahead. The real bottom line: We’re all almost certainly going to be asked to pay more for what we watch, wherever and however we watch it.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          At present the caution is fine. We were not getting bold and creative attempts with the flush money of the 2010s - we were getting a lot of welfare scripts and affirmative action shows that never would have been given even a pilot let alone a season back in previous decades. Caution means they'll refer back to the mean of what's acceptable and successful. So it'll be boring, but it won't be basket-weaving grievance-mongering "I am using my directorial debut to force you to be my therapist because of some insignificant childhood experience I've gaslit into being a seismic trauma".

          I think all going to look like amazon prime. Popular shows have commercials up the ass. None popular ones you will have to rent the season or buy it because not worth it to them to keep it on as Prime show

          A smart move would be a return to the itunes format of very cheap prices (or steam style abundant seasonal sales) per episode, or per season. Video games have shown how powerful micro-transactions are - not just among zoomers and millennials but boomers with candy crush and the like. 0.99 cents for an episode or two is a very easy sell compared to 14.99 for a month when you only care about catching a single season with 8 episodes. That and they need to stop being greedy israelites and every fricking company wanting to stream to cut out the middle man. Just take the L and throw it on netflix/Hulu/Prime.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Writers and actors would die if this happened. They’ll find out how much their show really makes off steaming when people have to pay for it out their pocket. Anyone going to pay for for HBO’s Velma?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Caution means they'll refer back to the mean of what's acceptable and successful
            I guess it depends on how much of that was due to their beliefs or forced upon them by the suits.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            TVOD already exists though. do you mean you want to see a more discoverability-friendly UI?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >A smart move would be a return to the itunes format of very cheap prices (or steam style abundant seasonal sales) per episode, or per season.
            That is probably the one thing they could do to ensure that pirating becomes standard

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              That or streaming will have to be like basic cable and be full advertising. There’s no other way around it. Amazon seems to have accepted it. So what’s point in cutting cable?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably advertising and hiking the costs. Streaming isn’t sustainable at this point until the market consolidates into only 2 or 3 services

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Especially now got to pay royalties. It’s dead. No fricking way I’m going pay 30 bucks for a steaming service with advertisements and half the shows it use to have

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >union celebs are surprised when they get laid off
                >they believed the lies of studios having infinite money

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Especially now got to pay royalties. It’s dead. No fricking way I’m going pay 30 bucks for a steaming service with advertisements and half the shows it use to have

                We can only hope this is what’s happening. I know why the unions didn’t want to push further, but the idea the studios agreed to any of their demands indicates the studios were the desperate party.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It honestly feels like a last-ditch attempt at centralizing and vertically integrating the industry like was tried in 1948

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon the studio system was vertically integrated and centralized before 1948

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                This. I think Zaslav and Amazon are like “frick it. Give them what they want. Not going to like it.” Zaslav all about making money and cutting cost. So guess what, no way shit like HBO’s Velma ever going to get a green light. It’s make money or it’s gone

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zaslav is on the ESG train too homie

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why’d he fire a bunch diversity hires, programs.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                He cares more about money, but that doesn't mean he's not an ESG homosexual.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                They believe their shit is making studio/steaming services just tons of money. Let’s see how many views these shows get, the real numbers, and how many new subscribers aka the money they bring

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >"the one thing"

              What was so pathetic about this strike is independent youtube channels didn't give a frick, and the current content is so shitty a strike was a relief.
              Clearly the next step is being telegraphed in the UK bill: Declare regime/legacy media and everybody else is banned as fake news.
              Banning VPN's for safety reasons or the restrictions are meaningless.
              Eventually everyone on the internet will need to be identified. Then they come for pirates.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                They can only come for pirates if they know where to look for them.

                As long as private trackers and magnets are a thing, no one really needs a massive database site to collate them if end users have a fast way to transmit some hashes or magnets or base64 links that self destruct after a while. Like volafile, but for text files.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post yfw the price you pay to pirate movies and tv shows goes up 7 MILLION PERCENT

          • 7 months ago
            BOOM Cumshot

            Price in terms of bandwidth or d/l times? What?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's the joke.

              Srs question I see people say streaming isn’t profitable but how is that possible? I understand it costs a lot to make movies and get a license to play content etc but if every swinging dick on planet earth is paying $15 a month every month they must be making a metric frick ton of money

              Every swinging dick wants the show/movie their watching to play without any problems.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wondering if Netflix will change now that one piece is popular.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Fewer, more talented writers
        Didn't they get their demand that there needs to fricking twenty different writers in muh writer's rooms from now on at minimum? It's just going to get worse, they'll fill the rooms with diversity hires just to meet the arbitrary quotas and nobody can keep their stories consistent anymore, let alone good.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The details are not out yet. We don’t know yet. If I had to guess I’d imagine writers get some sort of AI protections, maybe like you can’t make them edit or work with an ai generated/modified script. I imagine they have them increased royalties as well and probably higher base pay. But I have to imagine studios will be hiring less writers now. So writers will be payed more, but effectively studios will pay the same, or a little bit more overall, because they’re paying less writers. So who won? The writers that keep their jobs. However if they agreed on keeping writers room staffed to a minimum amount like we have today then the writers had a total victory. We’ll have to see the details before we will know what happened. If the writers win then expect higher prices and less shows being produced, which I think is a great thing. Let these studios lose even more money and hopefully some streamers go out of business. Just keep pirating and/or not watching.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    i havent heard the details about ai

    will the wagies be getting replaced by skynet writers or not

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I always assumed that is something the studios would cave on fast. Since presently AI tech isn't close to ready and the legal situation is still so murky anyway.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        > AI tech isn't close to ready
        It’s already surpassed being ready. I saw some anon post a mean description of trannies written by chatGPT in the style of Dr. Seuss that was more creative than any joke I’ve seen on TV in the last 15 years the other day.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I always assumed that is something the studios would cave on fast. Since presently AI tech isn't close to ready and the legal situation is still so murky anyway.

        instead of hiring a room full of 20 college grad writers sloppily throwing shit together with decisions by committee consensus, they could get an ai to write 50 episodes for free, and hire 1 writer who knows even a little bit about the hero's journey to tweak those 50 episodes together into something resembling a two-season story arc

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and hire 1 writer to add quips and make sure it meets DEI standards
          ftfy*

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >millennial """"""""humor""""""""

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >millennial """"""""humor""""""""

            From what I recall this was a list of specifically banned phrases in some writer's room.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't want to watch a movie where the black character isn't going to yell "OH HELLLLL NAW" at some point

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It just feels so empty, doesn't it? Seems like only yesterday that all black people on tv said "oh hell nawww!" all the time for comedic effect. This never gets old. This is how I enjoy my black people. They get scared and run away after their race's catchphrase. It's funny. Scared little dark man says it, runs in the air for a second, then runs away from the villain using a series of doors in a hallway. Hilarious. Why'd they ever get rid of this?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I wish contemporary authors avoided these as well and wrote proper prose.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              the fact that those had to be explicitly banned says enough

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >a list of specifically banned phrases
              Sounds like a genuinely good idea for writing.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's wrong with RUT-ROH? I want to see more of that in comedies, dramas, etc

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            These are actually banned jokes from the workaholics writers room

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          According to copyright you need a living writer to rewrite the AI. So yeah.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          And all that AI would do is just mimic old scripts that it was fed as the material to rip off and the. just regurgitate it in a boring way. Congratulations, you just start getting shittier and shittier shows when everything is literally going to be photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy slightly altered by an AI that can’t do anything except algorithmically copy style and basic reoccurring plot points.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >AI would do is just mimic old scripts that it was fed as the material to rip off and the. just regurgitate it in a boring way. Congratulations, you just start getting shittier and shittier shows when everything is literally going to be photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy slightly altered by an AI that can’t do anything except algorithmically copy style and basic reoccurring plot points.
            So, exactly what modern "writers" do with the addition of pozz. Nobody will or would notice that the scripts were written by an AI because modern "writers" are complete garbage. Even if I play into the communist bullshit some Anons (paid shills) are spouting - the modern "writers" are shitty "workers." They wouldn't survive in a free market economy, unlike the Japanese and Korean media industries. They are, or rather were, propped up by cheap money and nothing else. I repeat - modern "writers" are BAD and they know it. Ergo the strike. They KNOW they have no talent, skill or ability and that their everything exists in a rapidly deflating bubble that has utterly soiled fiction of any and all kind. This is one of the reasons why nobody gives a damn about American entertainment/propaganda anymore.

            I intentionally put "writers" in quotes because they aren't real writers and I'm not going to pretend they are, and they're "workers" even less. The only winning move for Hollywood and streaming services now is a full reset and outsourcing writing to people outside the US, or a total decline until they become like modern Western comics are. Either way the days of both Hollywood and streaming services are numbered, because neither will back down from their putrid "progressivism" while East Asia continues to create actual fiction with actual stories and actual characters without any agendas. I just recently watched Anno's take on Godzilla, Ultraman and Kamen Rider and I had no interest in kaiju or tokusatsu at all, yet I had a blast because they're fun movies.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >tl;dr

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The guy who won some art contest with his futuristic dune-esque royal court and a giant circle had the copyright office deny him a copyright even after he touched it up. At present I am convinced the only way you'll be able to use AI is in a brainstorming/conceptualizing stage when it comes to written text. IE the writers for a crime drama need a weekly villain concept, so you ask chatGPT:
        >Give me 5 suspects for the murder of a high school teacher. Vary the age/gender/background of the suspects, and give me their motivation.
        You might then ask 'give me a twist', 'give me a monologue of suspect 4 when they are caught', but ultimately you have to string it all together yourself and make it coherent. One of the biggest tells for someone being techbro or sir-redeem-benchode-bloody-basterd is if they think of AI as a star trek holodeck computer that you just prompt it and it does everything for you. At present the only thing to come close to that is Stable Diffusion and most of the time it still requires touch-up work if it's anything more complex than just soft-core porn pinups (Which it is great at). The kind of dumbass who goes "In less than 5 years I'll be able to tell the AI to make me an entire animated series."

        I mean christ, one major caveat to every single text generator that isn't jailbroke and privately hosted is how sanitized to hell they get. You couldn't get it to write an SVU script, you couldn't get it to write a shakespearian script even - not in quality but just because of violence and profanity!

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >AI isn’t ready!
          >unless you string it along…
          No shit Sherlock. It’s not a difficult task. Prompting StableDiffusion to make something non-fricked is harder than writing a script with AI. It’s not hard to jailbreak either, and I’m sure the business-facing side is jailbroken anyways

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So in other words it's not writing the fricking script at all, it's literally just a conceptualizer for the writing room? I agree with that, and that doesn't discount its utility in that regard. But that does utterly dismiss the techbro pajeet view that it's this wunderwaffle that will write the entire movie script for you or be able to belt knockout hit after knockout hit. If anything's it's just making me see how much people have aphantasia or the storytelling equivalent that people are wowed by the AI being able to come up with some of the most basic b***h tier plots or storylines. Granted with how neurotically politically-hack-minded hollywood writing even paint by the numbers derivative AI works will be better than therapy-session-disguised-as-storytelling.

            Writers and actors would die if this happened. They’ll find out how much their show really makes off steaming when people have to pay for it out their pocket. Anyone going to pay for for HBO’s Velma?

            Exactly. It's a double hit
            >The streaming services reveal how abysmal a lot of their shows viewerships are
            Investors are apoplectic and demand more restrictions on creative investment or refuse to invest in them.
            >The actors/writers see how terrible their shows are viewer wise
            Their bargaining rights and future hiring falls into the toliet.

            Normally suits styming creativity sucks but they need to slap down the parasitic long-march-through-the-institution types who've been suffocating the room. Hell, I don't like Weinstein but he was executive producer for all sorts of good shit. So I just hope you get suits who are smart enough to be hands off beyond
            >Is this going to be a financial success [IE will people want to SEE THIS. REMEMBER WHEN MOVIES OPERATED ON WANTING TO BE SEEN, NOT TO BE LECTURED TO?]

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              > REMEMBER WHEN MOVIES OPERATED ON WANTING TO BE SEEN, NOT TO BE LECTURED TO?]

              That’s how it was. You didn’t get viewers you didn’t get advertisers you were cancelled. Only popular shows got syndicated like Seinfeld, Friends, etc. Loser shows disappeared into obscurity

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              > So in other words it's not writing the fricking script at all, it's literally just a conceptualizer for the writing room?
              Yeah basically it’d be making the writers into the viewers, telling the machine to imagine interesting and creative stuff to happen next. Especially useful for rewrites (ie: “come up with a better ending involving the hubris of man”). If anything I welcome it.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                thats setting yourself up for bad writing. good writing is about resurfacing themes, snowballing concepts, leitmotifs, and pacing. good luck trying to get chatgpt to do that--you would literally write the script faster yourself

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Agreed. The current problem is the current batch of writers are too busy sucking each other off with every line they write that the don't recognise they should be writing for their audience. I guarantee all the shit writing is from people who walked straight into a writers room having never sold a script or gotten into the Black List

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Since presently AI tech isn't close to ready
        Maybe if you compare it to real writers, but we're talking about Hollywood nepo babies who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag. As bad as AI is, anything would be an improvement compared to the shit these morons have been giving us.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Basically the studios can't make writers work with AI if the writers don't want to but the studios aren't prohibited from using AI.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i havent heard the details about ai
      the snippet I heard from a negotiator said regarding AI "at least one human writer will always be required" whatever that means

      to my ear it sounds like studios will use AI to parse their marketing demographic data then use generative AI to shit out boiler plate pitches and script outlines then hand those off to humans to finesse

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >speculation and predictions are "schizo"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you go beyond headlines, you're schizo.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of all the threads you could have used that on, you chose this one. Damn dude.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cry a little bit
    >get more money
    What stop them from crying again? After all, not all of them will be able to pay for a private golden jet 🙁

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think all going to look like amazon prime. Popular shows have commercials up the ass. None popular ones you will have to rent the season or buy it because not worth it to them to keep it on as Prime show

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wagecucks have to pay $30/mo subscriptions for CW tier television so writers can afford to buy a second house
    LMAO

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Bigger?

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there really people who have sympathy for writers, actors, directors, producers, etc? Fricking why? They hate everyone that isn't in their club and most of the time, each other. They would not throw water on you if you were on fire and there was no one else around.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who cares? They're entertainers. You're not hoping they'll invite you to their birthday parties; their role is to be dancing monkeys who put on a show that they hope you will be enticed into paying to watch.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Liberals feel the need to suck up to Californian Liberals. They are considered royalty to them.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's actually going to be funny. The writing room requirement is based on the amount of episodes a season has. Expect shorter seasons going forward.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >0.5 episodes a season
      Gr8, gee. Just what I wanted.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like we have enough movies and games and tv shows now. We should be doing something else.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you guys inherently against workers getting better benefits and better lives?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      anecdotally, the people i know who are "crying and having champange" in celebration of this "win" are parasites. they parade around los angeles at fancy home-hosted dinners, write woke crap that they publicize on Blacklist and get their woke mentors to positively review, and are overall just poor contributors to a strained and morally vulnerable society. these are not the people you want representing american culture, but here they are. yay!!!

      you see, anyone who is a good writer can get their movie or content made. the bar to making content is lower now than ever before. the people championing this move dont actually make good content from their soul--they write lukewarm 'spur of the moment' buzzfeed drivvel and expect to get paid 100k/year+benefits for it. if they were moved to create, they would simply write good scripts, find good people to attach who believed in said scripts, and attend a film market and get it financed.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't bother. It's an astroturfing homosexual who posts in any strike related thread shilling for the union.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          you are outnumbered massively irl

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you have to say it, it's not true.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              The support among unions is soaring among millenials and even zoomers despite a bunch of them being socially conservative. Again, there's millions and millions of people who don't own property who can't own property in this present economy and they don't want to wageslave their lives away from nothing. Boards like Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile are in the minority on even Cinemaphile. The only people you connect to are business owning hicks that exploit illegal immigrant labor while simultaneously whining about it Your opinions are propaganda mcdonald's tier garbage that you got downstream from the fox box

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                source?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://news.gallup.com/poll/398303/approval-labor-unions-highest-point-1965.aspx
                https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1197954285/biden-visits-auto-workers-picket-line
                https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-news/support-for-unions-is-growing-poll-finds/
                The entire reason boomers had it good were because of unions. The late 70's and 80's destroyed most of them, a couple decades later, and even boomers are moving back in with their grownup gen x/millenial children. Millenials are a generation that are now in their 30's and 40's but are still renting because of the unaffordability of private property. Generation Z is even more fricked. As a result, both generations are interested in collectivist labor organization

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >npr

                The support among unions is soaring among millenials and even zoomers despite a bunch of them being socially conservative. Again, there's millions and millions of people who don't own property who can't own property in this present economy and they don't want to wageslave their lives away from nothing. Boards like Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile are in the minority on even Cinemaphile. The only people you connect to are business owning hicks that exploit illegal immigrant labor while simultaneously whining about it Your opinions are propaganda mcdonald's tier garbage that you got downstream from the fox box

                >immediately starts spewing thinly veiled anti-white hatred when confronted on his "class politics"

                Yep, it's a shitlib.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't have a proper answer for how generation z or millenials are supposed to acquire wealth, stability and homes. The only answer is labor organization. All you can do is spew fox news slogan like a robot

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Protip: You don't have to live in the biggest metropolitan city.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                The rentier economy is a problem across America! I live in oklahoma and landlords are charging 1200 usd for houses in a state where the minimum wage is 7.25 an hour and most jobs are paying around 10, that's unliveable! You're stupid!

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't work minimum wage in cities where the economy is insanely expensive then frickwit. You sound like DSP whining about how he needs money to pay his bills, when he doordashes three times a day.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >namedrops eceleb
                >argument boils down to “JUST HAVE MORE MONEY!”

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >people can't afford assets due to an overabundance of credit for the last 4 decades
                >thinks a writer's strike will change this
                Monetary debasement makes the (asset) rich richer and the poor poorer. You will NEVER earn a high enough wage to outpace the money printer. That's the entire point.
                Keep tilting at windmills though you moronic child lmfao

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmfao get better material bud
            ps the revolution is literally never going to happen comrade

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Trumpgays are soulless npcs who unironically vote against their own economic interests. Red states are 3rd world shitholes

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >trump out of nowhere
                hahahaha absolutely mindbroken

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                > t. Soulless trumpgay

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              The writer's strikes won, they drained hollywood of billions of dollars and got their benefits. Union organization is starting to appear across the country. Your opinion on this is irrelevant. I'm just educating the third person audience

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >, they drained hollywood of billions of dollars and got their benefits

                I don't think Cinemaphile sad about Hollywood israelites losing billions, homosexual.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                The writer's strikes won, they drained hollywood of billions of dollars and got their benefits. Union organization is starting to appear across the country. Your opinion on this is irrelevant. I'm just educating the third person audience

                The WGA paid off Hawaiian Electric Company to keep power going to Lahaina during the fires

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        the majority of people who write shows are living in a hyper inflated city and they're one or two weeks of paychecks from homelesness like everyone else is. You can say "move out of LA" but all of the writing industry is centralized into LA, many writers come from background where they're stuff like single mothers or from working backgrounds. This is a victory for organized labor. You're just being a strikebusting scoundrel because you've been brainwashed by /misc/ memes into thinking that employees are the same as financial executivex. Organized labor is going to start soaring across America and there's nothing you lumpen can rly do about it because most people can't pay rent and the more you engage in this dummy rightwing culture war the more people IRL are going to oppose you

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          i am the person you are responding to. im not disputing that its a win for organized labor--its a union strike. of course its a win for them. im saying, this union is filled with talentless scoundrels that do not actually write for a living. do you understand me? they do not WRITE for a LIVING. they pretend to write and MAYBE they write 1 script every other year, and if they do, most of the time its in conjuction with a "mentor" whom they have a agreement with to pay them a portion of the profit. and a lot of the time these fake writers are in the polycule LA sex circles or embody transhumanist woke ideals (pink hair, cyborg penis, gash veganas, fat beared onions males). aaron sorkin wanted to be known as a writer, and thats what he ended up doing, he just wrote and wrote and rewrote and wrote. these are glorified middlemen creating a network of other middlemen that are all using each other, either for financial connections, looks, or some other currency. do you understand? this is not the power of tradespeople leveraging their labor. these people are hardly doing any LABOR in the first place....

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            every group in history is going to have wreckers and lazy people in it. You're seeing this from a purely metrocratic view instead of one where labor organization is one of the only real tools americans have against a growing rentier economy.. I support the writers strike as well as the auto strike and the attempt at the rail strike because I want people to become educated about their immediate conditions and the frog in a boil situation they're in with exploitative labor and the rising rent economy

            Americans, I have two questions.
            In another thread about the writer's strike I saw some comments explaining California is an expensive place to live and many writers/actors/whatever barely afford to live there. So, what is stopping studios to film movies and shows in Colorado, Montana or another state where things are cheaper?
            Why does a writer need to live in California? I thought you could just write a script in Texas, email it to some studio and maybe the whole thing would be produced. I know they probably need some proofreaders, and meetings or a guy doing the connecting writer-director-studio executive, but you can probably reduce the cost with a longer period of pre-production, planning and preparation.

            A lot of them are trying to do that but all the infrastructure - the studios, the finance, the businessmen, the connections between various groups, the education to these positions is in california

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You're seeing this from a purely metrocratic
              all the chuds here fancy themselves champions of meritocracy until it comes to the dating market kek

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >buzzword buzzword buzzword
          >everybody who disagrees with me is brainwashed!
          Every time with you freaks

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >many writers come from background where they're stuff like single mothers or from working backgrounds.
          Why lie? They’re all upper class raised in NYC

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >many writers come from single mothers or working backgrounds
          Thats true for all millenials, not just writers, so it isnt relevant to this discussion.
          >organized labor will soar across america
          You're right, because you morons have voted us into hyperinflation and you are so stupid that you think your employers are the ones making you poor. You vote for more government spending on shit you arent willing to be taxed for. The government finances your free shit with loans. But there isnt enough money in circulation to back those loans. So more is created. And your cost of living rises and rises and rises. And you think its not a big rise because the CPI was designed to be deceptive, because it doesn't include housing, the cost of which you b***h about more than anything. So you blame corporate greed, or blame your employer, or (my favorite) you blame le evil rightwingers for voting against your gibs. Your votes keep making everything more expensive and you are mad at your employers for not giving you more and more money to do the same thing you've been doing for the same amount of hours at the same level of quality for years.

          You voted for this trainwreck of an economy and now you are angry at the wrong people over the consequences of it. You are like an eternal baby screeching for the nearest titty. You just know you need a titty and you'll get one if you cry enough. You don't care if it comes from mommy or from a cheap bottle of formula. You just cry and someone gives. Your only job is to exist.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you morons have voted us into hyperinflation
            GOP are always the biggest spenders then shut down the government and cry wolf

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Typical shitlib has no idea about debt caps vs spending.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                to the Treasuries bottom line massive tax cuts are spending, just not "discretionary" and are a major contributor to inflation

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the majority of communists who write shows are living in a city built on their own policies

          If I am lumpen then the writers are bourgeoisie, not petite one, just bourgeoisie.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Authors of books aren't paid by book buyers for each and every re-read the book gets after purchase.

          But the writers of shows want this to be the reality for them.

          Instead of writing an episode and being paid for the hours worked to write it, or a lump sum when they sell the episode to the platform, they want money each and every single time someone watches that episode, every single time, until the end of time. And there's no definitive language on what constitutes a "view". If the argument can be made merely starting an episode is good enough for that work to have been "viewed", there's going to be a new industry where shady writers will buy a platform subscription for a fixed amount each month, and then out their own material on repeat over and over to generate more and more "views". Even with the screen off and them sleeping, the device just keeps playing over and over.

          It's like the French government wanting to cull the rat population by offering cash payment for rat tails, in the hopes the general public would kill all the rats and turn in the tails to solve the problem as cheaply as possible. All that program DID do was create an industry of rat breeding for tail harvesting. A never ending cycle of free money.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Authors of books aren't paid by book buyers for each and every re-read the book gets after purchase.
            >what is e-book licensing

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you see, anyone who is a good writer can get their movie or content made

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you see, anyone who is a good writer can get their movie or content made
        You have no clue what you're talking about, moron. What a delusional thing to say in current year.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Made, yes. Distributed, marketed and monetized? That's the tricky part.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >workers
      *propagandists

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      the majority of people who write shows are living in a hyper inflated city and they're one or two weeks of paychecks from homelesness like everyone else is. You can say "move out of LA" but all of the writing industry is centralized into LA, many writers come from background where they're stuff like single mothers or from working backgrounds. This is a victory for organized labor. You're just being a strikebusting scoundrel because you've been brainwashed by /misc/ memes into thinking that employees are the same as financial executivex. Organized labor is going to start soaring across America and there's nothing you lumpen can rly do about it because most people can't pay rent and the more you engage in this dummy rightwing culture war the more people IRL are going to oppose you

      >these writers that live in studio apartment and fill media with leftist agendas who are paid by the machine are the realllll proleteriat!

      Also
      >doood it's achuawy the MAN who is forcing leftist SJW agendas in media not the poor workers......but it's a good thing anyway

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Writing is a dream job they wish they had. It's crab bucket mentality

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they would rather cut their own nose than let someone else get paid out of sheer spite, because they think they’re persecuted by tv shows having gays and blacks people in them

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not cutting your nose when the leftist propaganda goes out of its way to provide mind numbing lay stupid and lazy bullshit as a vehicle to door propaganda or just straight up attacks on those they view as political enemies

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You sound kind of mad. Wanna talk about it, bud?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They paid too much for making awful propaganda.

      And hiring fifty writers per show isn’t going to make it better.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >workers

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Halo writers bragged about not playing the games.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody is against infrastructure and manufacturing trades having it. Writers in Los Angeles can fricking starve or put out actual quality, that's how I feel.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because none of that goes to the crew. You know the people who are actually on set setting everything up. They are the ones who should be striking, not crap writers who write for other writers and not the audience. Not actors who get paid in percentage points.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh crew
        they have their own union and will get better terms the next time they bargain because of this deal

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          i kinda figured any future strikes in Hollywood are essentially gonna go the strikers way since California is gonna make unlimited income for strikers

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      burn hollywood
      rape shitlibs
      murder israelites
      simple as

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not against workers earning more.
      Hollywood writers aren't workers. They entered a proffession where they should accept only the top dogs deserve to live of off and the less talented ones will get some gigs and get a second job to pay the bills.
      Instead they want to be both treated as some fricking artists and like some fricking railroad laying proletariat at the same time. They want both prestige and the respect when their output for a number of years now was - on average - beyond shit.
      Writers can go frick themselves and I wish the strike would never end so that the whole system would flip, because the studios can get fricked as well.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      who do you think ultimately has to pay for their raises? Everyone is supporting the writers, but when Netflix, Amazon, HBO etc increase their subscription fees again then those same people start crying about it. Well, that's the direct result of you supporting the writer strike. You now have the privilege to pay for their raise.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cause they are only going to have a better life for maybe 5 years then Hollywood will outsource their jobs to some shitty hellhole like mexico

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're also the type of stupid butthole that supports the UAW because "muh workers" while also wondering why cars are going up another $7k per unit for no reason at all.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        nta but the reason auto workers are on strike right now is because of all the electronic horse shit going through, the big auto giants are cutting back on employees and benefits to accommodate their losses. ironically it's all biden's fault too, yet there he is standing with the strikers.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is going to be like when TV shows that went to DVD and steaming and they had to remove all original music. Because they renew the contract with all artists and would be too expensive. Why cut MTV videos from Beavis & Butthead and music from Daria. Same shit will happen here. Show cost too much in royalties versus clicks, gone!

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the designated thread for chuds coping with losing again

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one needs tv shows and movies. Get a life.

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    stop with the remake bullshit and i'll start watching again

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just going to be more CGI bullshit and even more formulaic than it already is. i hate the remakes, sequels, "diverse" reboots, and especially the capeshit. They're afraid to take creative risks, because they want to make sure that they're making a profit above all

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Did you use AI to write this?"

    "No."

    "Well okay." (does not check)

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would you check for that?
      Look it if it's shitty writing?
      lol
      lmao even

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Americans, I have two questions.
    In another thread about the writer's strike I saw some comments explaining California is an expensive place to live and many writers/actors/whatever barely afford to live there. So, what is stopping studios to film movies and shows in Colorado, Montana or another state where things are cheaper?
    Why does a writer need to live in California? I thought you could just write a script in Texas, email it to some studio and maybe the whole thing would be produced. I know they probably need some proofreaders, and meetings or a guy doing the connecting writer-director-studio executive, but you can probably reduce the cost with a longer period of pre-production, planning and preparation.

    • 7 months ago
      BOOM Cumshot

      >So, what is stopping studios to film movies and shows in Colorado, Montana or another state where things are cheaper?
      Where the filming takes place isn't where the writing takes place.
      > write a script in Texas, email it
      LMAO

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >write a script in Texas, email it
        >LMAO
        Care to explain?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can. and someone will end up doing this soon. we will see NEETs winning Best Screenplay in the next 20 years. this is their time

          You don't understand. They need to be in the most expensive areas of California. They need to sit in a room together. They need to collaborate and have that in person office experience. You can't use AI either because AI can only create based on existing material, which is a copywrite issue. Imagine if AI decided to use elements of a story owned by Disney? Could you even afford to fight the mouse's lawyers?

          Pay up. Those leftist propaganda artists need someone to fund their upper class lifestyle.

          unfortunately this is the argument that sticks

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't understand. They need to be in the most expensive areas of California. They need to sit in a room together. They need to collaborate and have that in person office experience. You can't use AI either because AI can only create based on existing material, which is a copywrite issue. Imagine if AI decided to use elements of a story owned by Disney? Could you even afford to fight the mouse's lawyers?

        Pay up. Those leftist propaganda artists need someone to fund their upper class lifestyle.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      exactly. the only reason these people want to be in LA is because the content they are able to create is NOT GOOD ENOUGH and so they need to either flirt with, frick, or impress the rich producers that live there to produce their garbage writing. you could be a great writer, pump out 4 scripts a year, and digitally get them all produced, outside or inside of Hollywood, even if you live in Bilgewater, Brazil.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      When hollywood moved out of NYC, none of the conditions have changed that would warrant doing business, likely, in a red state. And also the extremely thin line of legality of porn, which is permitted in California but will you get you arrested in Atlanta

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They've colonized Georgia and we need Sherman to come back and burn Atlanta again.

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you ever wondered, "Were the royalty deals so shit because Hollywood always intended to go back to traditional movie making after the capeshit?" But now, the shit zillion cgi union members have retireable jobs. I don't think we're ever going back. I think it's going to be shit like: "Captain Crunch, Oops All Dead" from here on out.

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the result of left wing policy. From the smallest minimum wage cutting jobs at entry level positions like restaurants/retail to writer's strikes to nation-wide socialism. All it does is reduce wealth and opportunity and success because it was never about fairness and productivity and was always about spite.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      People moronic. Companies don’t take losses. Consumers do future employees. Ok. You want royalties for steaming which isn’t profitable. They’ll open their books to investors and as soon as they see how horrific it is, stock will plummet investors will demand cuts, higher prices, commercials, only content they gets views. I bet now instead doing entire season they will only green light a few episodes. That’s how it was with network TV. Shows get cancelled mid season

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I still cannot believe you morons actually think streaming isn't profitable. Talk about falling for the israelite propaganda.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Disney is literally being sued by investors for lying to them about how bad streaming is.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          On paper, it sounds simple. You own the rights to your own shit, so just make a site where people can stream it.

          Turns out tech infrastructure and developers is expensive as shit, and all your shit you own still has to pay out residuals to writers, actors, and even the music you use have to pay residuals.

          And then you spend 200-300 million for every new series that's trash anyway because of shit writers, which causes the only draw to your platform be the legacy media that you own.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          It isn’t. Netflix, the biggest steaming size cable which they claim has 250
          million subscribers is 14 billion in debt.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            that number doesn't mean anything unless you compare it to the company size or asset ratio. netflix is worth like 200 billion, 14 billion is like 10%. they make 20 billion per year before taxes

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              True. Netflix will win the streaming wars

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Comcast is demanding Disney buy out their stock in Hulu because so unprofitable

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Netflix will just fill their catalog with Asian shows or non American shows

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're not all going to be Squid Games. Also the Netflix CEO was afraid of foreign productions asking for the same things the WGA just won by striking, so expect Koreans to want a larger share of the pie too.

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cut continent

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >CNN
    reddit moment

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe they'll do test screenings for more actual diverse audiences instead of Shlomos second cousin and his pozzed friends, who represent a tiny tiny niche of viewers. Be more careful with what they greenlight

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The executives aren't any smarter than the writers.

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    To me royalties is bullshit. Where else do you get paid for a job you did years earlier. If actor/writer wants royalties they shouldn’t get a base pay. If the show or movie is profitable they get a percentage of that. They don’t want to share any of the risk involved. Of their show bombs on to the next one

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The royalties is studio's compromise from having to pay high upfront.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Royalties/residuals are because with ads they’d make money off something years later every time it was ran, because the ad space was valued. So, yeah, the people who actually did all the work deserve a cut.

      Doesn’t really make sense with streaming

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good. Hollywood israelites can't israelite as hard anymore, so maybe now they'll be less accepting of forced diversity bullshit that doesn't sell or bring in numbers long term. Writers get a fair shake and can't get corpo-jewed, which means corporations no longer have to tolerate low quality shit. No more hiding stream numbers now right?

    Now writers will finally start hearing: "These shows just don't make money. Here are the streaming numbers. You suck at your job, and your shows sucks, and you're both done. Race swapped protagonists, gay-feminist man-bashing power fantasies, stories rewritten to be about black power instead of what they were originally about, etc. They're done. You wanted money and protections, and now you got em. Now you need to write shows that bring the audience. That ENTERTAIN the audience, and keep em coming back! No more free political soapbox bullshit that doesn't sell. We can't and won't lie to cover up your failures anymore."

    Sounds like a win-win to me. No more tolerance for corporate israelite bean counting, and no more tolerance for california nepo-baby bullshit.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can't israelite as hard

      Oh you sweet ignorant moron. Prices are going to rise now to cover the new costs

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh you sweet ignorant moron. Prices are going to rise now to cover the new costs

        Whoops, they accidentally clicked the 'cancel' sub' button.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh you sweet ignorant moron, that's now how reality works. Corporate can't just raise prices forever, especially if what they're price-hiking isn't worth paying for.

        Will prices rise in someway, sure, but so will quality as a part of the balance of economics. I'd rather pay a little more for shit that doesn't fricking blow and call me evil for being white. I'd rather this shitshow of nepo-baby soap box writers, hidden numbers, and israeli book-cooking comes to an end, and a small rise in prices is a small price to pay for TV not being shit again.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's exactly how it works, you sincerely should take an economics class. Pricing is determined first and foremost by costs. No one is going to operate at a loss in perpetuity and labor is the largest cost in business and it's just gone up.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The problem with people who take ECON101 is they don't also take ECON102 and discover that if prices rise too much, demand can go down to zero. Producers need to cover their costs but if doing so causes their prices to destroy all demand, production simply has to end.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're still ignoring the primary fact that no one keeps their prices low in the face of growing labor costs. Price increases determined by demand may be curbed but price increases based on labor are never curbed because then you only increase your debt

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Amazon is about to put ads in their base Prime subs and make a more expensive one without ads

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                for

                Learn the first thing about profit maximization then have a nice day.
                Actually, let me explain it in a way a wannabe intellectual can understand. Imagine the laffer curve but instead of tax revenue it's profit. There comes a point at which higher prices net you less profit, and the streaming services are already past it. I would expect price DECREASES in order to capture more market share in the near future, not increases.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              The key word "can" you fricking moron. No one is going to grit thier teeth and operate at loss knowing that it's going rise above the current margine, simply because you "can" hurt the profits by gradually increasing prices.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Learn the first thing about profit maximization then have a nice day.
            Actually, let me explain it in a way a wannabe intellectual can understand. Imagine the laffer curve but instead of tax revenue it's profit. There comes a point at which higher prices net you less profit, and the streaming services are already past it. I would expect price DECREASES in order to capture more market share in the near future, not increases.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >decreases

              Absolutely delusional. Ever service has increased their prices due to rises in inflation and labor costs, no one is going to lower their costs more to capture market share they can't maintain

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                This. He says this after Amazon announcing they are going to load their shit with advertisements along with raising the price

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I would expect price DECREASE
              Jesus fricking Christ, are you actually trolling across 3 different strike threads or are you actually just that moron?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >LE ECONOMICS CLASS!

            LMAO! Let me tell you something. You don't know what the frick you're talking about. Whether you're a dishonest corpo shill, or some homosexual college boy who just started econ 102, or some boomer homosexual who's fapped to Reagan one too many times.

            Businesses can afford to pay labor what they're worth. Businsses are no longer able to lie to cover up failing business models, and fool investors. Businesses have to offer a quality product to make money, which means no more acceptance of a shit quality from shit people who no longer deserve to be paid or employed. This is what capitalism is SUPPOSED to be. People working hard to offer a quality product that brings in good money.

            Don't (you) me again, you silly homosexual.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              > Businsses are no longer able to lie to cover up failing business models, and fool investors.

              Are you an idiot. Disney getting sued for covering up how bad their Disney+ profits are. So bad Comcast is demanding Disney buy out their shares of Hulu. They’ve been lying for years on profits. Only now do to lawsuits and strike that truth on how bad things are has come out

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Labor hasn’t been the center of value in some time friend. One tweet can torpedo or lift a company stock price. One arrest can lose all public trust. You are so sorely left behind in your understanding of wealth, and extremely misguided on israeli capitalism

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Play it black" looks like Neo

  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Srs question I see people say streaming isn’t profitable but how is that possible? I understand it costs a lot to make movies and get a license to play content etc but if every swinging dick on planet earth is paying $15 a month every month they must be making a metric frick ton of money

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Infrastructure for streaming is expensive as is the licensing. Subscription fees don't even remotely cover the upkeep costs.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Amazon spent a fricking billion on Ringd of Ass! Netflix paid 500 million for Seinfeld! A 30 plus year old show!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >half a billion goybucks for Basedfeld, a 30 yo show

        a 30 yo KHAZARIAN show. just a hint

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zaslov will be profitable 25,26 latest, the mouse and everyone else is up shits creek though

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the end its always the consumer that pays more. The question will be are they going to stay subscribed when the lowest tier of a subscription costs 25 dollars and has your show riddled with ads.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of course they will. Streaming/binging is a lifestyle, everyone does it almost every single day. People lived through TV stations showing 5 mins of ads every 10 minutes so of course they will adapt to whatever the streaming services does.

  34. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hellmouth Delenda Est

  35. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    total hollywood death

  36. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a lose-lose, the entire hollyisraelite system is on a path to meltdown. Hopefully this accelerates current trends even more.

  37. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Under the new writers’ agreement, studios will have to provide streaming data to the WGA (under NDA).
    >They must provide the worldwide total number of hours streamed. The WGA is then allowed to share the info with members in aggregated form.
    So instead of just studios lying about streaming numbers, writers get to lie about them too?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      No it means they get some more hush money… to lie about them.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      So why would these numbers need to be kept secret if not to cover up some kind of deceit?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Theory is of investors and especially shareholders really knew how bad it is, they’d all pull out or demand a massive restructuring/overhaul. Minimum massive lay offs and budget cuts

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Best case scenario: they don’t want to have to why 3m viewers of a show is isn’t bad compared to 3 billion views of a youtube video.

        Worst case scenario: they’re getting killed by SEO Spider-Man vs frozen Elsa videos.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't even have to be weird shit like that. When I sit down with my dinner and want to watch something I'll almost always choose to watch a 20 min vid on youtube of some crafting something in their garage or whatever over trying to find the latest episode of Diversity Squad Claps Back on netflix.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So let me guess, your culinary skills/tastes don’t extend past a microwave?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Let’s put it this way: A series of gmod shitposts featuring evil hl2 character heads stuck inside toilets, made on effectively no budget, has BILLIONS of views on YouTube

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      So how WGA going to tell their greedy israelite writers who think their shows are making millions aren’t making jackshit and and there’s no royalty check

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        this has been said before: hollywood has infinite bankrolling. We're all living in a matrix with make up monetary units like in a RPG. Your ruppees are valued according to the perception of NPCs. You'll have infinite money as long as you show good will to the blood-pulse, the heart, the controllers of your reality by means of tokens (ie. money). So what we have here, according to this drunk revelation: capitaism is a failing system and probably will crumble in the next decades. The problem is it's the only system millenia since the greeks created western though that we were able to perfection at this level. Everything else is more or less darkness not in their value or metaphysical allure but still untried or tried too little.

  38. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Could be a good thing. Might be more willing to throw a barebones budget at unknowns in hopes of striking gold rather than all the bloated expensive recycled crap we get now.

  39. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    May 1, 2026 will be an interesting date.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any particular reason?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's when this contract expires.

        All gains here last for 2 and a half years.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          why did they make the contract so short?

  40. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >leftroon has abandoned the thread
    Guess HE got tired of being exposed as the moron HE is

  41. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hollywood is dead
    Oh No! etc

  42. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good news everybody! the writers who can't right are coming back to work.

  43. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not my problem.

  44. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not dead but it's a downward trajectory. The problem isn't the cost of writers or AI, it's that content is not great and people are not entertained.

    Viewing numbers are down, that's just less $ in the industry overall. TV and movies

  45. 7 months ago
    anonymous

    >cut continent
    get off your iphone, journalist cuck

  46. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Late night talk shows were the first to go
    >They'll be the first back

  47. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    We won!

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Success based residuals
      kek they got israeliteed so hard.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It has the same ring to it as "rep by pop"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        WGA got on some points far less than they really wanted (but are now cheering about). Here's the WGA's own summary on viewership-based streaming residuals
        >VIEWERSHIP-BASED STREAMING RESIDUALS
        >>WGA's proposal
        >Establish a viewership-based residual—in addition to existing fixed residual—to reward programs with greater viewership. Require transparency regarding program views.
        >
        's initial response
        >Rejected our proposal. Refused to make a counter.
        >

        >Viewership-based streaming bonus: HBSVOD series and movies that are viewed by 20% or more of the service’s domestic subscribers in the first 90 days of release,
        This is basically only the shows people actually here about, a small minority of the total produced and released
        >or the first 90 days of any subsequent exhibition year,
        This is literally Encanto only
        >get a bonus equal to 50% of the fixed domestic and foreign residual. For example, for a project written underthe 2023 MBA, the bonus would be equal to:
        >• $9,031 for a half-hour episode
        >• $16,415 for a one-hour episode
        >• $40,500 for a streaming feature over $30 million in budget
        >This bonus structure takes effect for projects
        released on or after Jan. 1, 2024.
        >Streaming data transparency: Companies agree to provide the Guild, subject to a confidentiality agreement, the total number of hours streamed, both domestically and internationally, of self-produced high budget streaming programs (e.g., a Netflix original series). Aggregated information
        They wanted transparancy; didn't get that

        On this absolutely.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Viewership-based streaming bonus: HBSVOD series and movies that are viewed by 20% or more of the service’s domestic subscribers in the first 90 days of release,

          So if Disney has 100 million subscribers, their raceswap larps would have to reach 20 million viewership, the parameters of what constitutes a 'view' is up to studio.

          Holy fricking shit what a bunch of dumbasses....

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It’s called a bonus for a reason, dumbass. Reserved for those massive hit shows

  48. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So writers and actors are going to get their demands.
    only thing they're going to get are shorter seasons so studios don't have to hire newly-mandated number of writers. genius.

  49. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what happens in the goy cattle they've been billing suddenly decides they want a higher quality product instead of the low wattage propaganda churn they been assaulted with these past 15 years? Won't the temptation to yank a show if it isn't cutting the mustard become harder and harder to ignore?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      People aren’t thin skinned chuds getting constantly triggered that it isn’t 2009 anymore.

  50. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the writing heebs got the better of the corporate israelites
    Der Krieg ists verloren...

  51. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  52. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they just tell the wga to frick off and start hiring new writers or focus on editors and AI?
    This whole thing feels like a lengthy excuse to raise streaming prices higher.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why didn't they just tell the wga to frick off and start hiring new writers or focus on editors and AI?
      Because the whole US media industry is incestuous and based on nepotism. A huge chunk of those "writers" were/are friends from makebelieve bullshit college of the people who hired them. It's all like a big ball of colored dicks fricking eachother up the ass while tumbling down a cliff. It can't untangle itself even if it wanted to, and it definitely doesn't want to.

      The entertainment is in watching the clusterfrick bleed out to death, not in consuming their goyslop.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s like that because who the frick can enter an industry where you need elite university ties and a non-paying job to enter the industry. Im surprised the nepotism crowd doesnt ditch hollywood for YouTube. Has to be money laundering

  53. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >But
    >what reality is
    >cut continent

    >mfw it’s a diversity hire Hollywood writer wannabe post

  54. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >y-you see, If I pay you fairly it would actually be worse for you

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fair pay for a communist Black person is zero.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, it's worth at least one bullet

  55. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Netflix and studios are going to cut continent and up prices.
    Oh yeah, and I'm sure they wouldn't have done that without the strikes.

    Idiot.

  56. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hollywood is dead

    If only this was true.
    What a fricking cancer.

  57. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop letting in illegal aliens and close the borders.

    There, liberals, now wages can stabilize you mongoloids.

  58. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    *fewer jobs

  59. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has been for the last ~15 years or so.

  60. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    ESL shill moron

  61. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Netflix and studios are going to cut content and up prices
    good. everyone wins.

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