This. So much this. No one is illegal. The orcs have been systemically oppressed for millennia. They only rape and murder because of socioeconomic conditions.
Yes, they did rape and cut apart my girlfriend, but she was against racism and even as she was killed she knew it wasn't their fault. As she was being raped and bleeding, she knew the white man had made this happen. Oh my science!!
>orcs are evil >they just naturally are >its in their blood
so this is good writing according to Cinemaphile?
I get we are just shit posting here but theres an actual literal explination as to why that is. they were literally made by in-universe not-Satan. its that
"comon god, just let me make one thing" meme except literal. are we forgetting that there is magic in this setting?
Ill never understand this line of logic. Is the idea of purely-good or purely-evil fantasy races really all that impossible for you to comprehend?
Imagine looking at some horrible creature like picrel and the first thing you think of is, “but what about his heckin sad backstory…?”
It should be obvious, but it's because orcs can talk and that thing can't. If something can talk it can be reasoned with. Orcs have social relations, so they can at some level be cooperative.
Even Tolkien's letters show that he was conflicted over making beings like orcs with free will which were irredeemably evil, but he ultimately decided it wasn't important enough to the story to go into it.
If you pay attention to the Shagrat and Gorbag conversation, it seems like orcs don't really want to wage large scale war, they just want to be small time brigands
They also laugh at their comrade getting captured by Shelob and leave him to die a horrible death, showing that they have zero capacity for empathy even toward their own kind.
Those emotions you only show when alone and you don't mention them, ie write about them. Doesnt mean they don't happen.
After all, how many characters take a shit that we know of?
Yes, they are only organized in armies with captains and such because Sauron's power was strong during the war of the ring. Before that they presumably lived as semi-feral bandits that robbed or killed just to sustain themselves, and in the centuries to millenia after Sauron's destruction further devolved into weak, malevolent and mischievous beings haunting woods and hills, stealing food and playing tricks on people like goblins or gremlins from traditional folklore.
that's not how it works, captured human women lay their eggs in the mud, and the orc men ejaculate onto them. then in a few days, a full grown uruk-hai man rips his way out of the mudwomb. it's like no one here even watches the movies
Liberal relativist brain rot >yoooo don’t kill those facehuggers they just baby aliens y’all >yoooo suck this frickin baby out of my pussy so I can go get gangbanged again
Just like that Ryan Carson homosexual, right?
I bet he called people "chud" on the internet and was heavily involved with antifa.
Then he was killed for being White. Whoops. Oh and his roastie gf was already shilling for gibs while the body was still warm kek.
if we assume the orcs are originally elves taken and turned to orcs by morgoth, killing the orcs ought to send them to the halls of mandos, where they will eventually be reborn into the world as elves.
Seeing as the elves themselves give no mercy to orcs and kill them wherever they find them, this is probably the best solution. Orc civilization is built on oppression and slavery whether they self-rule or not, they hate their masters and they hate themselves, there's no reason to leave them alive.
>Ugh, did that German publisher ask me about my heritage? I can't believe that in this day and age, people can still have this ignorant, black and white view of the world. How very unchristian. >So, anyway "Aragon and his crew show no mercy to the vile orcs and gloriously runs down and slaughters the retreating army, because they were wholly evil and deserved it because of who they were. The end..."
>le orcs are evil just because they are ok? stop asking questions about them >now let me describe a tree and it's ancestry and what a hill looks like in a 100 different ways
tell me with a straight face these books aren't garbage
There's a part of the books where a couple of orcs just think about what they wish their lives were like and it really fricked me up because I thought they were just mindless evil creatures but they have wants and desires too.
now, I don't mind that they were genocided but it's still a little fricked up.
So only eru could create life? So the main theory is that they're tortured elves? Can orcs be redeemed at any point? Or once afflicted they're permanently evil?
why has no one asked the orc's what they actually want? just listen to what they have to say, why can't an orc live in gondor or the shire peacefully?
This. So much this. No one is illegal. The orcs have been systemically oppressed for millennia. They only rape and murder because of socioeconomic conditions.
there have been no documented cases of orc's raping women and they cannot ''murder'' men because they're at war with them
the elves need to pay reparations for the millenial of colonialism of orc lands
>ba na naaaaa na na naaaa baaa na naaaa
Yes, they did rape and cut apart my girlfriend, but she was against racism and even as she was killed she knew it wasn't their fault. As she was being raped and bleeding, she knew the white man had made this happen. Oh my science!!
Tolkien:
>orcs are evil
>they just naturally are
>its in their blood
this guy really was a huge racist huh?
Yes, a huge chud. I myself walk around minority neighbourhoods at 4am just to prove how nonracist I am.
>orcs are evil
>they just naturally are
>its in their blood
so this is good writing according to Cinemaphile?
it's realistic
>me as teenager
>there's no really good or evil the world is grey
>me as adult
>there is good and evil
>it's not their fault! It's heckin systemic problem!
I get we are just shit posting here but theres an actual literal explination as to why that is. they were literally made by in-universe not-Satan. its that
"comon god, just let me make one thing" meme except literal. are we forgetting that there is magic in this setting?
Naturally in the sense they were made like that by a bad hombre
Ill never understand this line of logic. Is the idea of purely-good or purely-evil fantasy races really all that impossible for you to comprehend?
Imagine looking at some horrible creature like picrel and the first thing you think of is, “but what about his heckin sad backstory…?”
It should be obvious, but it's because orcs can talk and that thing can't. If something can talk it can be reasoned with. Orcs have social relations, so they can at some level be cooperative.
Even Tolkien's letters show that he was conflicted over making beings like orcs with free will which were irredeemably evil, but he ultimately decided it wasn't important enough to the story to go into it.
I know you are being racist and shit but it really makes me think
This entire thread reeks of racism and I am restraining myself as much as possible so I don't fricking snap
You should get a vasectomy and find a nice black bull for your wife. Best way to make racists mad.
If you pay attention to the Shagrat and Gorbag conversation, it seems like orcs don't really want to wage large scale war, they just want to be small time brigands
They also laugh at their comrade getting captured by Shelob and leave him to die a horrible death, showing that they have zero capacity for empathy even toward their own kind.
Those emotions you only show when alone and you don't mention them, ie write about them. Doesnt mean they don't happen.
After all, how many characters take a shit that we know of?
we already know that characters take shits (and have sex as well, GRRM), so there's no need to mention it to establish it.
Yes, they are only organized in armies with captains and such because Sauron's power was strong during the war of the ring. Before that they presumably lived as semi-feral bandits that robbed or killed just to sustain themselves, and in the centuries to millenia after Sauron's destruction further devolved into weak, malevolent and mischievous beings haunting woods and hills, stealing food and playing tricks on people like goblins or gremlins from traditional folklore.
>we aren't interested in our boss's interests, we want to rape, murder, and steal at our own pace
The orcs are in dire need of a union.
White Wizard privilege is real.
>baby orcs
no such thing, they come from the ground
Thats racist
There are no baby orcs. Orcs cannot create they can only bend and distort.
this is false, extended edition confirms Saruman had a rape dungeon where he bread orcs with men
how and where do i volunteer to breed orc women?
that's not how it works, captured human women lay their eggs in the mud, and the orc men ejaculate onto them. then in a few days, a full grown uruk-hai man rips his way out of the mudwomb. it's like no one here even watches the movies
NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN ORKIE WORKIES!
NOT THE HECKIN SMOL BEAN FLOOFY CHONKERS!!
But what about his tax policy though?
Liberal relativist brain rot
>yoooo don’t kill those facehuggers they just baby aliens y’all
>yoooo suck this frickin baby out of my pussy so I can go get gangbanged again
You need to be dissolved
Gotcha b***h. Admit it. I got you.
I don’t have to admit shit.
Someone could beat you to death for chudiism and every government would let them walk
Just like that Ryan Carson homosexual, right?
I bet he called people "chud" on the internet and was heavily involved with antifa.
Then he was killed for being White. Whoops. Oh and his roastie gf was already shilling for gibs while the body was still warm kek.
>Someone
Not you though because you're weak as shit.
I hate youtube essays so much.
>Baby orcs
>LOTR
I'm not even that into Tolkien and I know the problem with this.
if we assume the orcs are originally elves taken and turned to orcs by morgoth, killing the orcs ought to send them to the halls of mandos, where they will eventually be reborn into the world as elves.
Seeing as the elves themselves give no mercy to orcs and kill them wherever they find them, this is probably the best solution. Orc civilization is built on oppression and slavery whether they self-rule or not, they hate their masters and they hate themselves, there's no reason to leave them alive.
Orc refugees should be allowed to live in the shire. Hobbit supremacists disgust me.
>Ugh, did that German publisher ask me about my heritage? I can't believe that in this day and age, people can still have this ignorant, black and white view of the world. How very unchristian.
>So, anyway "Aragon and his crew show no mercy to the vile orcs and gloriously runs down and slaughters the retreating army, because they were wholly evil and deserved it because of who they were. The end..."
>le orcs are evil just because they are ok? stop asking questions about them
>now let me describe a tree and it's ancestry and what a hill looks like in a 100 different ways
tell me with a straight face these books aren't garbage
Filtered
>Just let a genocidal army that just tried to kill you all escape
LMAO
typical anglo no?
The orcs are meant to represent the worst of humanity in general
There's a part of the books where a couple of orcs just think about what they wish their lives were like and it really fricked me up because I thought they were just mindless evil creatures but they have wants and desires too.
now, I don't mind that they were genocided but it's still a little fricked up.
This is what Aragorn took from you
they want to get hamburgers at Denny's
Say the full name.
They just want their Playstations and Buffalo Wild Wings.
Too bad that would ruin everything we have so they gotta go.
Go watch the video, morons. The guy agrees that Aragorn genocided is a stupid idea. Same with the importance of his taxes.
So only eru could create life? So the main theory is that they're tortured elves? Can orcs be redeemed at any point? Or once afflicted they're permanently evil?
It was all because he said
>MEN if the WEST
that’s 2 no-no words in current year
Kek. Miss these.
I thought those were Dunlanders in that scene.
Anybody have more of these?
Orcs are like trannies, twisted perversions on a perfect being created by Eru.
I love these threads.
The orcs had to invade to protect Mordor from the possible human alliance, also to dehumanize Gondor in a three day special operation
>Minas Tirith will fall in three days
I hope he killed all the baby orcs. I hope he is the reason we have no orcs anymore in this world.
>KILLING ONTOLOGICALLY EVIL BEINGS LE BAD
Ok but leftists were all for this during the last breadtube era
Isn't it emphasized that nothing was born evil in this? Surely that applies to orcs and gobs too.
A second plane has hit the two towers