I only agree with you in regards the changes in the stormtroopers. The padded shoulders and the trim design on some of the plates look ridiculous. And white sole boots? ugh.
Seems like they just came up with the twist last minute. Cutting Luke's arm off was unnecessarily cruel since the difference in their strengths didn't necessitate severing his hand.
this he's more like a battered housewife that is stuck with the emperor
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I always liked the implication (before the Mustafar fight existed) that Vader is covered in electrical burns. The emperor just tortured the shit out of him until there was nothing left but hatred and obedience.
>Cutting Luke's arm off was unnecessarily cruel
Because you as the audience member are supposed to feel that Luke is in danger of dying. That is precisely why Yoda spoke of another, to take away the "plot armor" aspect of Luke's Destiny.
Yet Anakin only grunted in pain while Luke was crying like a little b***h the entire time. Now that I think about it, I can see why someone like him would frick off to an island somewhere and spend the rest of his life chugging green alien titty milk.
>There will NEVER be a trilogy as good as Star Wars ever again
You got to live through it though. We were given a gift. Later generations just don't appreciate how good it really is.
99% of people who watch these movies don't know how sword fighting is supposed to work, so it's not that big a deal unless you suffer from crippling autism.
>HOLY SHIT ARE THEY- ARE THEY GENTLY TAPPING THEIR LIGHTSABERS TOGETHER WHOAAAWOWOW SUCH A COOL FIGHT
meanwhile, here’s an actually decent Vader fight scene
hated that show but i did love that fight, and i love the fanservice hallway fight in rogue 1, but those two are like shiny trinkets compared to the goldmine that is the end of empire (and return). the emotional weight and the stakes in those two fights are what make them the best. >cloud city >luke is brash and not fully trained >was told he would die, went anyway >first time facing Vader 1v1 >he begins the fight confident and put together >Vader is a relentless war machine who there is no stopping >as the fight progesses, Luke is bloodied and sweaty, slowing down >he knows there is no backup coming >Vader fights with more and more ferocity as Luke visibly deteriorates >Luke gets his hand sliced off and chooses to kill himself rather than let Vader use him as a tool of destruction for the dark side
that shit was fricking SCARY when i watched it at like 7 years old
Start of the fight, Luke whips his dick out super fast and eager like an overly excited teenager.
Vader slowly flops out his experienced dong
Very well done but very phallic
>also wtf did vader just block that lightsaber with his hand?
This is the worst trend in modern saber fights, it has never been cool and makes lightsabers basically superfluous
>lighting and set design is kino >actual fight is clumsy, slow, and kills any feeling of an epic battle seeing them flail and pirouette moronicly
No
This "modern" fighting is bullshit, with those useless acrobatic moves to make the fight more "interesting".
The jedi lightsaber fight was meant to resemble the samurai sword fight, in which there are very few moves/strikes and the fight is more about the quality of the strikes rather than their quantity,
Moder Hollywood turned it into a si-fi Wushu, because it's more appealing to the younger generation who can't tolerate two worriers standing still and watching each other, waiting for the other one to make the first move.
i liked how Vader fighting reva just used the force on her to the point that he took her double bladed sabre from her, broke it in half, then gave one half back before continuing to pummel her into the dirt. the guy couldn't even be bothered to draw his own sword kek
The only thing "good" about the modern SW movies/series/games is that, as far as i know, they haven't nerfed Vader in terms of fighting skills and Force power.
He's still the most badass and most intimidating character in all of SW universes
Fricking THIS
And exactly the same thing you said is true of hand to hand combat in any action movie now. Oh, the character is a spy? And he's fighting an assassin? Suddenly, they both possess beyond Olympic athletes level of control over their body, never tiring, doing 5 minutes of hand-chakra no jutsu Naruto gestures, while also never interacting with or making use of the set because it was so in a Green screen if not outright cgi. And when it's over, their opponent instantly dies (as demanded by the script) and they carry on at full speed with no exhaustion or encumbrance. And I'm Fricking SICK of it.
Even The choreography of hand to hand fights in You Only Live Twice, judo chops and all, is more exciting to watch than the slop like the Venice Bridge fight in the last mission impossible
that's actually the best part of that movie Atomic Blonde, where charlize theron fights her way down from the roof of an apartment building. the fighting has a more gritty feel to it, as she utilizes corners and hallways to kick her larger male attackers down stairs, beat them with weapons etc. By the time she reaches the bottom, it's her and one or two remaining bad guys all stumbling around gasping for air, swinging wild haymakers that don't even come close to connecting, and they're all toppling over of their own afford from exhaustion and tripping on shit. damn good scene in a pretty forgettable movie
that's why i liked that scene i described, she does everything she can to not fight men openly when she can avoid it. kicking them down stairs or whacking them in the face as they round a corner, etc. she is a pile of bloody mush by the time she's at the bottom floor
i love both. prequels depict powerful jedi when they were far more numerous and youthful. OT sabre fights are between old/crippled men and Luke, whose formal training took place in a dagobahian swamp. if Luke had jedi temple to train at, i'm sure he would have mastered many sabre styles. at least, that's how i square it in my headcanon
>HOLY SHIT ARE THEY- ARE THEY GENTLY TAPPING THEIR LIGHTSABERS TOGETHER WHOAAAWOWOW SUCH A COOL FIGHT
meanwhile, here’s an actually decent Vader fight scene
The Maul fight works because Ray Park is an actual acrobat - most flashiness isn't the result of Force powers, just his personal agility. The more modern Disney fights rely way too much on Force powers to make them interesting. In general, I don't like how Jedi/Sith have been recodified as superheroes. I'm not a fan of the Inquisitors as a concept.
always hilarious to me how they move around those lightsabers as if the blades are not made of some high powered laser that can burn and cut through almost anything.
I mean, when you do Wushu, you're using some light sword with a blade that is made of cold, hard metal, so it won't hurt you if you hold the sword near your body/face, even if the flat side of the blade touches you won't do anything, that's why they can do all those moves without injuring themselves.
You don't have this privilege when the blade's temperature is about 500 degrees, and should be kept at a reasonable distance to not burn yourself
It’s so fricking awful.
They’re dancing. They aren’t fighting. They’re striking weapons not striking their opponents. The choreography just adds to how unbelievably shitty the whole thing is.
I suspect that modern fight scenes are made by people who have never been in a fight in their lives and so they don't really understand the emotion of it, the fear and adrenaline. They just kinda understand what it looks like from the outside. Not that I recommend getting into fights, fights fricking really suck to be in.
Why is the contrast and exposure so low on this scene? It looks really muddy, everything is indistinct; even the core of the lightsabers is more of a light grey than a white. Does the entire show look like this?
yes, the show is complete dogshit top to bottom. they had ewen macgregor and joel edgerton right there to utilize as the two leads, and they focused on young leia and an evil black woman jedi
that's the point. she gets the drop on him and he doesn't move or draw his sabre, he just toys with her the whole time. would've been more enjoyable if they hadn't wasted like a third of the bloody run time on the bint.
Literally the clunkiest shit I have seen in a long time. I'm so glad I don't watch modern garbage. Also >can't see a fricking thing because director/producer/cinematographer/whoever has no clue on how to properly light a scene, and everything is grey and mush >camera fricking shaking more than Saving Private Ryan, and barely anything is happening >can't barely even see the fricking lightsabers
Squinting my eyes, I did see Vader kick the black chick's shin at the end which makes him look like a fricking peasant goof.
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No
This "modern" fighting is bullshit, with those useless acrobatic moves to make the fight more "interesting".
The jedi lightsaber fight was meant to resemble the samurai sword fight, in which there are very few moves/strikes and the fight is more about the quality of the strikes rather than their quantity,
Moder Hollywood turned it into a si-fi Wushu, because it's more appealing to the younger generation who can't tolerate two worriers standing still and watching each other, waiting for the other one to make the first move.
The fights in the Star Wars OT were terrible. They remind me of how me and my brother would fight with sticks and plastic swords, we were always careful not to hit each other. It was just about stick to stick contact.
We would say >ow, don't hit me, that hurts!
if one of us accidentally nudged the other ones hand.
>WHOAAAWOWOW SUCH A COOL FIGHT
Is that why Reva's toy lightsaber never got made whereas Luke's sells out repeatedly? Just because you like the flashy goyslop like a baby distracted by jangling keys, the Bespin duel is literally a mastercraft in storytelling. Vader is a BEAST and is clearly toying with Luke to test his limits. The entire interaction between them is character and story driven, whereas Reva is already long forgotten. You zoomers really are moronic.
this looks rally fricking stupid. people in sword fights dont start rolling around on the ground for a reason, because it is fricking stupid and will get you killed in seconds
The colors on this are fricked up.
And I've told you this last year when I also saw you upload the same webm.
The source was HDR but your webm captures clipped SDR of that wide gamut source, so everything is off.
the entire premise is that Luke believed anakin was still there, that Vader had not taken over completely. not even Yoda or obi believed, but Luke did, and he believed so fricking much he staked his life and the fate of the galaxy on it
he called the emperor out on his bullshit and threw his lightsaber away as one last frick you
hence why that is the only time in all 6 films where sheev is genuinely pissed off, his chess master persona fades and we see his pure of hatred towards the jedi show through
>inflicts the same wound on his father as his father inflicted on him >stares at his had >rejects the cycle of violence and abuse
meanwhile
>mace dindu has sheev cornered >anakin insists on the jedi way >mace gives in to realpolitik, shuns jedi principles and goes in for the kill >in that moment he is no better than sheev, anakin inflicts the wound on him
im not going to act like the prequels were actually good movies overall but I think george had a solid outline and still really knew what he was doing as a storyteller. i just fault him as a director for a lot of the creative decisions that were made around that.
>i just fault him as a director for a lot of the creative decisions that were made around that.
Is it true that for the "I AM THE SENATE" scene, Mcdarmid was supposed to have a stunt double fight for him but Lucas insisted to have Ian learn all the moves and choreo in the same day of filming without informing him beforehand that he'd be the one doing the stunts?
it's such a great sequence. love how luke lands on the top level and by the time Vader is done with him, he's falling out the garbage chute at the bottom kek
it's such a great sequence. love how luke lands on the top level and by the time Vader is done with him, he's falling out the garbage chute at the bottom kek
Cloud City/Bespin is a fantastic setting in general; I'm surprised that gas giants are so rare as settings even in big budget sci-fi cinema/television, they're great visual fodder
that was going to be the end sequence in rogue 1 originally IIRC, Vader picking off the cast one by one like a slasher movie where you don't really see him much. would've been pure kino
>in a dark room and can't see well >suddenly respirator noises and heavy footsteps >uh oh >your best friend starts gagging and mysteriously chokes to death
Empire is the GOAT. But there are a very few moments after 1980 that are worthy. The end of Jedi after the battle begins, as well as non-SW >My friends. You bow to no one.
George Lucas refuses to let go of the original footage. He insists that him fricking up the remaster is the best thing to happen to Star Wars and doesn't want anybody to fix his mistakes.
The way the lightsaber props were set-up in the first film precluded much movement. I appreciate what Lucas was going for with his homage to Japanese samurai films, but he also isn't as patient as those Japanese directors; he isn't as willing to let the tension sit as long before one of the combatants makes a move. Still better than that ultra-flashy fan edit which sucks all the tone out of the scene, though.
Watch Harakiri if you want to see this fight done well.
I actually love those twirling parries Obi-Wan does at the beginning of the webm, keeping Vader's little stabs at bay while also preventing a potential swing.
>the young knights in the prequels are very athletic and fast because they are high on having superpowers >the old masters are methodical and cautious because they haven't seen each other in a while
this is based
> Luke shows up. The metallic wheeze and in the fog is Vader’s silhouette. Then for the next 15 minutes, Luke learns just how outclassed he is as he gets his ass handed to him.
>Luke learns just how outclassed he is as he gets his ass handed to him.
Isn't it fricking great? Isn't that why we're still talking about the OT after all these decades? Watching Luke get curb-stomped so many times, just to get back up, dust himself off, and believe in his friends and himself only to finally overcome all of his hardships? It's no wonder Kathleen Kennedy hates him so much. He's a true Hero, and nothing she could ever be.
I get the criticisms of the woodenness
of Lucas's dialogue and his deliberately stilted direction but I actually like that Anakin is whiny and petulant.
Fun Fact: I have the OT audio-ripped to an MP3 player to listen to while I work. It's all so great, almost like it was made for a radio play (and no, it's not the radio play version). I listen to ANH & ESB with tremendous joy, but always have reservations about Jedi. It just screeches to a halt and doesn't get going until the Sarlacc Pit battle, then struggles until the Rebel Fleet reaches the Death Star where it's epic, and the end credit music is actually the best in the trilogy. And yes, Lapti Nek and Yub Nub for me.
>but always have reservations about Jedi. It just screeches to a halt and doesn't get going until the Sarlacc Pit battle, then struggles until the Rebel Fleet reaches the Death Star where it's epic
Yeah one of the biggest problems is a lack of tension up until the end. Star Wars? The Empire's after the stolen plans in R2D2 so stormtroopers are always on their tail up until the end. Empire? After Hoth we get 2 plots: one where Luke hangs out with Yoda in a swamp and the other where Han, Leia and co are being pursued throughout the galaxy by Vader and eventually Luke has to come save them/actually fall into a trap. Jedi? The Jabba stuff is great but I'm not really sure what Luke's actual plan is but then once you get to Endor and the plot proper starts there's no real threat to the heroes. Yeah there's some stormtroopers wandering around but Luke has to basically give himself up in order to get captured. There's just no tension until the end battle (which is fricking awesome but still)
These movies are for children. I thought Star Wars was kinda cool when I was younger but now I just don't care about it anymore. I never understood the appeal
I'm still pissed by how cheap RotJ looks in comparison
I only agree with you in regards the changes in the stormtroopers. The padded shoulders and the trim design on some of the plates look ridiculous. And white sole boots? ugh.
Post neck right now.
>toys with and tests Luke the whole time
>when Luke manages to score a blow, Vader cuts the bullshit and ends the fight
pure kino
realistically couldnt jedi spin saber through the deathstar like prions
back in the OT jedi actually had limits
actually I'd like to see that because it would be so moronic
If he is his son, why did he cut his arm off?
It's important to build character
pretty sure he was expecting Luke to come quietly after that. not like a robot hand is a big deal in SW, he gets one like a day later
Seems like they just came up with the twist last minute. Cutting Luke's arm off was unnecessarily cruel since the difference in their strengths didn't necessitate severing his hand.
It's almost like he's evil or something
Vader isn't evil
this he's more like a battered housewife that is stuck with the emperor
I always liked the implication (before the Mustafar fight existed) that Vader is covered in electrical burns. The emperor just tortured the shit out of him until there was nothing left but hatred and obedience.
>Cutting Luke's arm off was unnecessarily cruel
Because you as the audience member are supposed to feel that Luke is in danger of dying. That is precisely why Yoda spoke of another, to take away the "plot armor" aspect of Luke's Destiny.
Luke pissed him off. Vader didn't expect to get hit.
>”Oh stop crying. Same thing happened to me when I was your age and I’m still here.”
Typical dad shit.
Yet Anakin only grunted in pain while Luke was crying like a little b***h the entire time. Now that I think about it, I can see why someone like him would frick off to an island somewhere and spend the rest of his life chugging green alien titty milk.
He's a bad guy
Stopped the fight, didn't it? Hands are replaceable in this universe.
He wanted to disarm(no pun) luke so they could talk.
something something americans circumision israelites no foreskin lol
Nah nah nah, Luke injured him a little bit. Got a little out of order himself.
>There will NEVER be a trilogy as good as Star Wars ever again
It hurts bros.
>There will NEVER be a trilogy as good as Star Wars ever again
You got to live through it though. We were given a gift. Later generations just don't appreciate how good it really is.
>lighting and set design is kino
>actual fight is clumsy, slow, and kills any feeling of an epic battle seeing them flail and pirouette moronicly
emotional hacking is better than soulless marvel-tier choreography
>flail and pirouette moronicly
Nobody pirouettes during this duel though. The moron is you son.
This.
>that goofy scene with Vader throwing objects at Luke
Lol. Also there are some stupid continuity errors like Luke "cutting" Vader's neck.
99% of people who watch these movies don't know how sword fighting is supposed to work, so it's not that big a deal unless you suffer from crippling autism.
>Darth Vader was once a lowly shoe salesman
Gorgeous shot, Cloud City looked so cool.
>HOLY SHIT ARE THEY- ARE THEY GENTLY TAPPING THEIR LIGHTSABERS TOGETHER WHOAAAWOWOW SUCH A COOL FIGHT
meanwhile, here’s an actually decent Vader fight scene
hated that show but i did love that fight, and i love the fanservice hallway fight in rogue 1, but those two are like shiny trinkets compared to the goldmine that is the end of empire (and return). the emotional weight and the stakes in those two fights are what make them the best.
>cloud city
>luke is brash and not fully trained
>was told he would die, went anyway
>first time facing Vader 1v1
>he begins the fight confident and put together
>Vader is a relentless war machine who there is no stopping
>as the fight progesses, Luke is bloodied and sweaty, slowing down
>he knows there is no backup coming
>Vader fights with more and more ferocity as Luke visibly deteriorates
>Luke gets his hand sliced off and chooses to kill himself rather than let Vader use him as a tool of destruction for the dark side
that shit was fricking SCARY when i watched it at like 7 years old
Start of the fight, Luke whips his dick out super fast and eager like an overly excited teenager.
Vader slowly flops out his experienced dong
Very well done but very phallic
i kinda hate that you're not wrong
Tee-hee-hee.
how is this kino? she is just rolling around and dodging nothing
also wtf did vader just block that lightsaber with his hand?
>also wtf did vader just block that lightsaber with his hand?
This is the worst trend in modern saber fights, it has never been cool and makes lightsabers basically superfluous
he blocks several blaster bolts with his hand in the very movie the OP posted
No
This "modern" fighting is bullshit, with those useless acrobatic moves to make the fight more "interesting".
The jedi lightsaber fight was meant to resemble the samurai sword fight, in which there are very few moves/strikes and the fight is more about the quality of the strikes rather than their quantity,
Moder Hollywood turned it into a si-fi Wushu, because it's more appealing to the younger generation who can't tolerate two worriers standing still and watching each other, waiting for the other one to make the first move.
i liked how Vader fighting reva just used the force on her to the point that he took her double bladed sabre from her, broke it in half, then gave one half back before continuing to pummel her into the dirt. the guy couldn't even be bothered to draw his own sword kek
The only thing "good" about the modern SW movies/series/games is that, as far as i know, they haven't nerfed Vader in terms of fighting skills and Force power.
He's still the most badass and most intimidating character in all of SW universes
Fricking THIS
And exactly the same thing you said is true of hand to hand combat in any action movie now. Oh, the character is a spy? And he's fighting an assassin? Suddenly, they both possess beyond Olympic athletes level of control over their body, never tiring, doing 5 minutes of hand-chakra no jutsu Naruto gestures, while also never interacting with or making use of the set because it was so in a Green screen if not outright cgi. And when it's over, their opponent instantly dies (as demanded by the script) and they carry on at full speed with no exhaustion or encumbrance. And I'm Fricking SICK of it.
Even The choreography of hand to hand fights in You Only Live Twice, judo chops and all, is more exciting to watch than the slop like the Venice Bridge fight in the last mission impossible
that's actually the best part of that movie Atomic Blonde, where charlize theron fights her way down from the roof of an apartment building. the fighting has a more gritty feel to it, as she utilizes corners and hallways to kick her larger male attackers down stairs, beat them with weapons etc. By the time she reaches the bottom, it's her and one or two remaining bad guys all stumbling around gasping for air, swinging wild haymakers that don't even come close to connecting, and they're all toppling over of their own afford from exhaustion and tripping on shit. damn good scene in a pretty forgettable movie
Any time I watch women fight men, I am fighting my suspension of disbelief the entire time
that's why i liked that scene i described, she does everything she can to not fight men openly when she can avoid it. kicking them down stairs or whacking them in the face as they round a corner, etc. she is a pile of bloody mush by the time she's at the bottom floor
Sorry but you'll never convince me this isn't awesome.
i love both. prequels depict powerful jedi when they were far more numerous and youthful. OT sabre fights are between old/crippled men and Luke, whose formal training took place in a dagobahian swamp. if Luke had jedi temple to train at, i'm sure he would have mastered many sabre styles. at least, that's how i square it in my headcanon
I agree the OT fights feel more raw but I also loved the speed and kineticism of the prequel fights.
The Maul fight works because Ray Park is an actual acrobat - most flashiness isn't the result of Force powers, just his personal agility. The more modern Disney fights rely way too much on Force powers to make them interesting. In general, I don't like how Jedi/Sith have been recodified as superheroes. I'm not a fan of the Inquisitors as a concept.
always hilarious to me how they move around those lightsabers as if the blades are not made of some high powered laser that can burn and cut through almost anything.
I mean, when you do Wushu, you're using some light sword with a blade that is made of cold, hard metal, so it won't hurt you if you hold the sword near your body/face, even if the flat side of the blade touches you won't do anything, that's why they can do all those moves without injuring themselves.
You don't have this privilege when the blade's temperature is about 500 degrees, and should be kept at a reasonable distance to not burn yourself
It’s so fricking awful.
They’re dancing. They aren’t fighting. They’re striking weapons not striking their opponents. The choreography just adds to how unbelievably shitty the whole thing is.
>They’re dancing
That's what I like about it personally.
We get it, you're a gay.
>Star Wars fan
>Calling someone else a gay
NTA but you're both gays
There's your flailing pirouette. It's a dance routine. It's pure schlock.
That's because it IS awesome.
Don't let sequeltards tell you otherwise.
This
Prequels are obviously shit, but how are the fights considered bad?
Also why does Episode 1 still look like they used actual, real sets and Episode 2&3 look like fricking video games DESPITE using real sets as well?
I suspect that modern fight scenes are made by people who have never been in a fight in their lives and so they don't really understand the emotion of it, the fear and adrenaline. They just kinda understand what it looks like from the outside. Not that I recommend getting into fights, fights fricking really suck to be in.
>fights fricking really suck to be in.
Amen
That looks fricking moronic
Why is the contrast and exposure so low on this scene? It looks really muddy, everything is indistinct; even the core of the lightsabers is more of a light grey than a white. Does the entire show look like this?
yes, the show is complete dogshit top to bottom. they had ewen macgregor and joel edgerton right there to utilize as the two leads, and they focused on young leia and an evil black woman jedi
bruh, vader is just standing there
that's the point. she gets the drop on him and he doesn't move or draw his sabre, he just toys with her the whole time. would've been more enjoyable if they hadn't wasted like a third of the bloody run time on the bint.
Literally the clunkiest shit I have seen in a long time. I'm so glad I don't watch modern garbage. Also
>can't see a fricking thing because director/producer/cinematographer/whoever has no clue on how to properly light a scene, and everything is grey and mush
>camera fricking shaking more than Saving Private Ryan, and barely anything is happening
>can't barely even see the fricking lightsabers
Squinting my eyes, I did see Vader kick the black chick's shin at the end which makes him look like a fricking peasant goof.
Horrible.
50 years ago choreography this bad would have gotten you blacklisted from the industry.
The fights in the Star Wars OT were terrible. They remind me of how me and my brother would fight with sticks and plastic swords, we were always careful not to hit each other. It was just about stick to stick contact.
We would say
>ow, don't hit me, that hurts!
if one of us accidentally nudged the other ones hand.
>WHOAAAWOWOW SUCH A COOL FIGHT
Is that why Reva's toy lightsaber never got made whereas Luke's sells out repeatedly? Just because you like the flashy goyslop like a baby distracted by jangling keys, the Bespin duel is literally a mastercraft in storytelling. Vader is a BEAST and is clearly toying with Luke to test his limits. The entire interaction between them is character and story driven, whereas Reva is already long forgotten. You zoomers really are moronic.
>decent Vader fight scene
Where? I don't see one.
this looks rally fricking stupid. people in sword fights dont start rolling around on the ground for a reason, because it is fricking stupid and will get you killed in seconds
The colors on this are fricked up.
And I've told you this last year when I also saw you upload the same webm.
The source was HDR but your webm captures clipped SDR of that wide gamut source, so everything is off.
This is the only good SW movie and most of it's filler anyway.
Luke's beatdown of Vader at the end of RoTJ was more kino than any other pussy ass choreographed dance fight they've shat out since.
>luke looks as if he's given in to his anger
>defies the emperor and throws his saber away
>if you kill your enemies they win
It wasn't that. He trusted his dad to do the right thing and gambled his life on it.
the entire premise is that Luke believed anakin was still there, that Vader had not taken over completely. not even Yoda or obi believed, but Luke did, and he believed so fricking much he staked his life and the fate of the galaxy on it
In this case yes, since Luke can't defeat the Emperor by himself
he called the emperor out on his bullshit and threw his lightsaber away as one last frick you
hence why that is the only time in all 6 films where sheev is genuinely pissed off, his chess master persona fades and we see his pure of hatred towards the jedi show through
>inflicts the same wound on his father as his father inflicted on him
>stares at his had
>rejects the cycle of violence and abuse
meanwhile
>mace dindu has sheev cornered
>anakin insists on the jedi way
>mace gives in to realpolitik, shuns jedi principles and goes in for the kill
>in that moment he is no better than sheev, anakin inflicts the wound on him
im not going to act like the prequels were actually good movies overall but I think george had a solid outline and still really knew what he was doing as a storyteller. i just fault him as a director for a lot of the creative decisions that were made around that.
>i just fault him as a director for a lot of the creative decisions that were made around that.
Is it true that for the "I AM THE SENATE" scene, Mcdarmid was supposed to have a stunt double fight for him but Lucas insisted to have Ian learn all the moves and choreo in the same day of filming without informing him beforehand that he'd be the one doing the stunts?
Are you purposefully being obtuse? It's the other way around
Never.
I'll never turn to the Dark Side.
You've failed, Your Highness.
I am a Jedi. Like my father before me.
holy fricking kino
i will never not laugh at this webm
I miss my best friend and I constantly doing this to each other.
Also my favorite Matrix WebM
those frickin throat chop edits never get old
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What do you guys think of the Mando vs Gideon duel? I like how it resembles more an OT duel by having less acrobatics.
>I’m picking up my blaster, Put it on my side.
>I’m jumpin’ in my Falcon. Wookie at my side.
>I’m solo, I’m Han Solo,
Here's a webm you might enjoy OP. Happy new year!
HOLY PERFECT LOOPINO!
What movie?
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
this is the best sequence in the series, no topping it.
The entire sub-level area of the cloud city is one of the coolest sets ever put to film.
it's such a great sequence. love how luke lands on the top level and by the time Vader is done with him, he's falling out the garbage chute at the bottom kek
Cloud City/Bespin is a fantastic setting in general; I'm surprised that gas giants are so rare as settings even in big budget sci-fi cinema/television, they're great visual fodder
Top 3 Star Wars location for sure. That’s why I love Jedi Outcast so much. Lots of Cloud City.
>this is the best sequence in the series, no topping it.
Death Star Trench Run beats it.
I loved how they had to look for each other and Vader does a jumpscare. Vader would be a great slasher villain in a horror movie.
that was going to be the end sequence in rogue 1 originally IIRC, Vader picking off the cast one by one like a slasher movie where you don't really see him much. would've been pure kino
>in a dark room and can't see well
>suddenly respirator noises and heavy footsteps
>uh oh
>your best friend starts gagging and mysteriously chokes to death
Watching Empire is bittersweet because you know that there is absolutely nothing better from here on out.
Empire is the GOAT. But there are a very few moments after 1980 that are worthy. The end of Jedi after the battle begins, as well as non-SW
>My friends. You bow to no one.
is 4k80 ever getting released or is it okay for me to delete their shit and just go back to watching the despecialized edition
I watched the newest beta version a couple nights ago and it looked fine to me. Not exactly sure what more they have left to do.
George Lucas refuses to let go of the original footage. He insists that him fricking up the remaster is the best thing to happen to Star Wars and doesn't want anybody to fix his mistakes.
>this made boomers cream themselves
The way the lightsaber props were set-up in the first film precluded much movement. I appreciate what Lucas was going for with his homage to Japanese samurai films, but he also isn't as patient as those Japanese directors; he isn't as willing to let the tension sit as long before one of the combatants makes a move. Still better than that ultra-flashy fan edit which sucks all the tone out of the scene, though.
Watch Harakiri if you want to see this fight done well.
I actually love those twirling parries Obi-Wan does at the beginning of the webm, keeping Vader's little stabs at bay while also preventing a potential swing.
>the young knights in the prequels are very athletic and fast because they are high on having superpowers
>the old masters are methodical and cautious because they haven't seen each other in a while
this is based
this is great, it looks like actual fencing, how sword fighting by actual masters actually looks
Greatest fight scene in movie history
> Luke shows up. The metallic wheeze and in the fog is Vader’s silhouette. Then for the next 15 minutes, Luke learns just how outclassed he is as he gets his ass handed to him.
>Luke learns just how outclassed he is as he gets his ass handed to him.
Isn't it fricking great? Isn't that why we're still talking about the OT after all these decades? Watching Luke get curb-stomped so many times, just to get back up, dust himself off, and believe in his friends and himself only to finally overcome all of his hardships? It's no wonder Kathleen Kennedy hates him so much. He's a true Hero, and nothing she could ever be.
Lucas was cooking
>tfw Hayden is too old to do a Lucifer movie now
>Duuhhh smart references means good movie
I get the criticisms of the woodenness
of Lucas's dialogue and his deliberately stilted direction but I actually like that Anakin is whiny and petulant.
>that realization when Watto was basically Anakin's father figure
How old were you when you realized the og star wars movie (A New Hope) is WWII in an alternative timeline?
Fun Fact: I have the OT audio-ripped to an MP3 player to listen to while I work. It's all so great, almost like it was made for a radio play (and no, it's not the radio play version). I listen to ANH & ESB with tremendous joy, but always have reservations about Jedi. It just screeches to a halt and doesn't get going until the Sarlacc Pit battle, then struggles until the Rebel Fleet reaches the Death Star where it's epic, and the end credit music is actually the best in the trilogy. And yes, Lapti Nek and Yub Nub for me.
>but always have reservations about Jedi. It just screeches to a halt and doesn't get going until the Sarlacc Pit battle, then struggles until the Rebel Fleet reaches the Death Star where it's epic
Yeah one of the biggest problems is a lack of tension up until the end. Star Wars? The Empire's after the stolen plans in R2D2 so stormtroopers are always on their tail up until the end. Empire? After Hoth we get 2 plots: one where Luke hangs out with Yoda in a swamp and the other where Han, Leia and co are being pursued throughout the galaxy by Vader and eventually Luke has to come save them/actually fall into a trap. Jedi? The Jabba stuff is great but I'm not really sure what Luke's actual plan is but then once you get to Endor and the plot proper starts there's no real threat to the heroes. Yeah there's some stormtroopers wandering around but Luke has to basically give himself up in order to get captured. There's just no tension until the end battle (which is fricking awesome but still)
>holy fricking kino
Get better taste, Black person
These movies are for children. I thought Star Wars was kinda cool when I was younger but now I just don't care about it anymore. I never understood the appeal