Someone give it to me straight: decent scifi show or half a movie's worth of story stretched into a season of episodes? I don't think I can waste any more of my time on nothing-happens shows that just wait and cram the whole plot into the last 10 minutes of the last episode.
>decent scifi show or half a movie's worth of story stretched into a season
Neither. It's a whole book and more of events butchered, dumbed down and crammed into 8 episodes. The only reason to watch it is to know exactly how trash it is. Do yourself a favor and read the books.
D&D cannot write intelligent characters. It's all frick this frick that dude weed lmao XD and sassy twitter girlboss clapbacks. Same exact problem with GOT. The only good dialogue came from directly from the book. Imagine being worse at writing dialogue than a Chinese autist being translated into English.
the way they radically simplify everything to avoid having to explain any actual science at any point is really grating
having the aliens just immediately reveal themselves to the entire world by visibly flickering the sky is such a bad change and it would have taken 30 seconds to explain the cosmic microwave background. could've been done with zero time lost if they just cut some of the relationshit drama from the scene. if they want the big dramatic effect of the sky flickering they can do it as a nightmare.
the whole premise is moronic, it is established that they could manipulate ppl with cephalons, why not manipulate everyone and try to an hero them?
not everyone would murder themselfes but enough that it cripples humanity
why not make every plane pilot blind?
Because they can't, and they don't believe they need to in the first place. There are only two sophons, and even though they can move at light speed, they can't affect everyone all at once. Wade and Jin even discuss the possibility of overwhelming the sophons with enough particle accelerators operating simultaneously across the Earth and on the Moon.
Where do people keep getting this 0.1% to 1% of light speed? I thought they could achieve near light speed but accelerating and decelerating takes 4oo years. Did I misinterpret the book or did the show change that?
Their average speed is 1% of light speed. Given enough time and energy, it's "easy" to accelerate anything to near light speed. The Trisolarans are limited by how close they are already to Earth, and that their matter-antimatter propulsion relies on gathering fuel from clouds of gas and only accelerating in short bursts along the way.
Why waste time with sophons at all? A small rock pushed to .1C would wipe out life and blanket the planet in dust for a few hundred years.
All of this stuff is plot contrivance because the base concept is "oh no the ayys have us cornered we can't do science", followed by "haha we didn't really need science anyway we can just asspull a solution".
>wipe out life and blanket the planet in dust for a few hundred years.
They want to keep the planet and the ecosystem, not destroy it. All they need is to have humans die off and with minimal disruption.
Again, plot contrivance. You don't need a potentially hazardous ecosystem, it's easy enough to bring your own. You don't need to destroy the planet to wipe out life.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>plot contrivance
ok sure man just let the aliens instakill humans and then there's no fricking plot at all.
The Trisolarans are willing to let all humans live the rest of their lives out, but they can't reproduce. They're not destroying humans because they are evil and hate us, but because they deem it a necessity to their survival. Also, you need to stop thinking of all trisolarans being in agreement on how to deal with humans. They can have differing opinions just like us.
The Trisolarans are also considered to be pretty dumb and arrogant in the grand scheme of things. If they were smart, they would have vaporized or 2Dified us ASAP and lived on space ships.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well, they are what they are and the story is what it is. If they were more aggressive it would be a different book.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm just saying that it's true that the aliens are stupid. It's not a plot contrivance, it's one of the main themes of the series: arrogance.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I can imagine humans thinking that way to ease their conscience about committing xenocide.
All you need is one faction with the ability to throw a rock. There's nothing gracious about letting your enemies continue living for a generation, and the only reason to leave humanity alive for 400 years is to give them the ability to beat you.
>plot contrivance
ok sure man just let the aliens instakill humans and then there's no fricking plot at all.
Look, I enjoyed the second book man. But it's filled with asspulls, because it's an attempt to try and blend "hard" sci-fi with entertainment.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>All you need is one faction with the ability to throw a rock. There's nothing gracious about letting your enemies continue living for a generation, and the only reason to leave humanity alive for 400 years is to give them the ability to beat you.
That's just the dark forest. Don't worry your wish will come true eventually.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Fiction, especially "science" fiction is full of asspulls otherwise there wouldn't be any fiction. Stop being fricking autistic. The books are good. They pull things out the ass, sure, so what?
1 month ago
Anonymous
so it's fantasy for babies and there is no such thing as hard s-f only baby ideas with reddit "science" sprinkled on
1 month ago
Anonymous
anon, it's science fiction, not science non-fiction
They actually made a joke in the show about how bad an actress and she is only hired for her looks. That was the only intelligent line in the entire series.
watch the chink version instead or read the book
they ruined da shi (the cop) and that kind of makes it hard to make the first season land right. having thomas wade around already helps a little but doesn't fully make up for it. i actually do think bringing parts of the later books forward was a good idea, but the execution is a disaster.
>i actually do think bringing parts of the later books forward was a good idea,
It leaves the cast too cluttered. They absolutely destroyed nanotech guy by making him into 2 intolerable women because Jin needed something to do this season too. Having a whiny cancer guy around for the whole show might work if he felt even slightly sympathetic, but he's a waste of life teacher who looks like a gay and spends the whole time crying about how he's going to die oh noes.
Nig Ji does absolutely nothing the whole show, and making the protagonists all buddies at the start is fricking dumb. The whole point of setting a show over 400 years is so that you can have characters who go "yeah, I don't really care that much about the end of the world or whatever, I'm just going to raise my kids and die in the present". Instead, all of these atrocious characters will be around for all 3 seasons, constantly fricking nattering at each other.
watch the chink version instead or read the book
they ruined da shi (the cop) and that kind of makes it hard to make the first season land right. having thomas wade around already helps a little but doesn't fully make up for it. i actually do think bringing parts of the later books forward was a good idea, but the execution is a disaster.
Wait so black guy is Lou ji and cancer guy is probably Yun Tianming?
yes. yun tianming was telegraphed very early on because of the rich friend, while it took a while longer for it to be obvious who was supposed to be luo ji.
Hold up. Don’t fricking lie to me, b***h.
Are you saying the cast a Black person for Luo Ji?
How do they explain that a Black person had a Chinese name?
Wait- don’t tell me >OH SO YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM BELIEVING IN ALIENS AND SOPHONS BUT BLACK PEOPLE BEGGAR BELIEF?!?
I can’t believe that
Also, who the frick is “Auggie Salazar”
I read the books a few years ago and I don’t remember any such character.
Is Netflix inflicting American diversity on a Chinese sci-fi story?
I don’t remember many non Chinese in the book except for the billionaire and the historical characters in the sim
Auggie is half of the nanotech guy, Wang. The other half of his story (all the VR stuff) was given to Jin, who is the second sword holder prostitute and she needed some stuff to do this season. It's all as clunky as you'd imagine.
1 month ago
Anonymous
How in crikey frick did they scree it up this bad?
You had a show that canonically “diverse” in the sense that it’s mostly nonwhites but Netflix needed for it to be bovine hispanics and Black folk with and-everyone-clapped dialogue and vacant expressions.
I was actually hopeful for this series since there was no obvious provocation (overwhelmingly white cast of characters, right wing premise) that would instigate Netflix to compensate by pozzing
1 month ago
Anonymous
A majority Chinese cast is a no-no, not diverse enough.
Yeah its sad mate, ETO as a group is never named. The whole wallbreaker to wallfacer thing was cool. Why only 3 wallfacers also?
>Why only 3 wallfacers also?
Probably to save time. I wonder which plan they'll cut, probably the mind control one.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I figured that they would go the bbc route and make the billionaire environmentalist a Black person or Black personfy Sir Isaac Newton
Oh well. I guess we still have the books
1 month ago
Anonymous
The billionaire environmentalist is evil, so it's fine if he's white. They couldn't make a villain black, not these days.
Did we get any "Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet" moments of stupid?
D&D think an object travelling at 80KM/s will somehow manage to meet the fleet within the next 390 years.
1 month ago
Anonymous
the object was meant to be traveling faster, but things went wrong.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No shit, they went wrong in the books, but they didn't go that fricking wrong. It's a physical impossibility for the fricking fleet to encounter brain boy on any reasonable timescale, they'd be on our fricking doorstep while they're trying to put his brain back together and work out how it works.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>D&D think an object travelling at 80KM/s will somehow manage to meet the fleet within the next 390 years.
LOL oh jesus
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The billionaire environmentalist is evil
Did George Bush write this book?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Kek not only did they make Wang into a women, it’s a woman who takes theatrical umbrage when people suggest that there might exist a male scientist in this universe
There is truly no misfortune too violent or gruesome that I would ever feel an iota of pity for anyone who works in Hollywood
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Wait so black guy is Lou ji and cancer guy is probably Yun Tianming?
They ruined the best sci-fi protagonist and turned him into African American. Netflix gonna Netflix I guess
Oh shit. These characters are a fricking mess. Also dae remember the part in the story where all the main characters were connected and everyone knew each other before even all the main events started?
It was decent until the last 3 eps. I mean what the frick was that shit. Aliens are coming to wipe out humanity and these weak, useless fricks more concerned with morality and emotions, constantly wining about pointless bullshit when humanity needs to become more militaristic than they ever have in all of human history? Especially that b***h Auggie. More concerned with helping developing shitholes than making materials, tools, weapons, space infrastructure with her magic nanofibre macguffins. I would turn her into my personal wienersleve in that situation. I would blow massive loads down her throat in such quantities and with such frequency that she would end up drowning on my fricking cum. I was actually enjoying this slop too. Ridiculous.
That's actually the premise of two latter books. That humanity is going extinct but crabs in a bucket go about morality and gaslight anyone who tries to save at least few humans from demise because their vision needs some sacrifice or cannot save all.
Book 1 >Woman hates herself and wants to kill humanity. Man discovers aliens by playing VRChat. A boat sails through that laser trap in Resident Evil.
Book 2 >Chinese man creates a tulpa and falls in love before killing her then uses his government powers to get a waifu and be rich. Hugo Chavez tries to blow up Mercury. Donald Rumsfeld wants to make some kinda suicide squad. Someone decides to shoot a brain at the ayys for the fun of it (this doesn't actually happen in the book but is retconned in the third because there were no original plans to continue the series after this book). Chinese man gets waifu taken away, goes to the future, threatens to kill himself and the ayyys kneel before him Vegeta style, resulting in a new Golden Age for humanity.
Book 3 >Dumb woman gets into power, IMMEDIATELY, I mean literally within one second of gaining power, dooms the world and turns humanity into slaves. Ayys discover their love of anime waifus and make one to rule humanity. Astronauts decide to kill the ayys and humanity. The universe realizes 3D is pig disgusting and return to glorious 2D. Brain shot at ayys actually loved Dumb woman and tells her about 2D anime time after the Ayys decide to resurrect him for who knows what reason. Some guys decide they're just going to create their own universes because the current universe is too lame.
yeah when the exact same poster is in the catalog over and over again all day it's not organic. same thing happens with pantheon 2022. no screenshots from the show itself, just the poster again and again. this is an advertisement campaign
>this is an advertisement campaign
Every other post is someone saying that it sucks ass and you shouldn't watch it.
It just came out, people are going to talk about how awful it was. Give it a week, the threads will dry up as people get bored of laughing about how bad it was.
No, Sam Hyde threads are an advertisement campaign. This is what happens when a new television show comes out. It gets discussed on a television board.
>the entire universe blinked in front of everybody on earth >yeah it's bullshit that's deepfake
does the dumb brothers even understand how deepfake works?
The dumbshit brothers don't understand anything, if the sky started blinking there would be mass panic. There's a great scene later on when the aliens come out and say "frick you" and people actually start rioting, and there's a shot where like 50 people have decided to all randomly hang themselves on lampposts down a street, side by side, very neatly.
Alright, here's a question.
If this story were real, and the world enacted the Wallfacer program, who are the four real people who should get the position?
The US would give it to Neil Degrasse Tyson or some such
The UK would have some paki or pajeet like that palala girl who couldn’t go to school
Greta thunberg would be another
The Chinese might take it seriously or they might just send some rando while they build giant escalators to swallow the aliens.
For Russia it would be some Putin lackey who just tried to divert resources to Russian oligarchs
Yeah
That dude, Stacey Abrahams, Lizzo, or one of the Obamas
People here meme about “humiliation rituals” but it’s actually the state religion over here
>thrive in a chaotic, 3 star system with fricked up planet >dehydrate whenever and wake up naked in the pool >can turn sub-atomic particles into super computers >can achieve 1% light speed >can’t lie, always honest and open
Where do people keep getting this 0.1% to 1% of light speed? I thought they could achieve near light speed but accelerating and decelerating takes 4oo years. Did I misinterpret the book or did the show change that?
The suns come and go huge distances. They cannot predict the movement of all three over any length of time, but they have harnessed the power of the universe, essentially.
Plot the movement of the smalles sun, destroy it with a sun-sized photon, that leave two suns whose movements are perfectly predictable and they survive where they are.
It's a lazy plot based on lazy writing and given the Netflix treatment.
>The suns come and go huge distances.
No, they don't. I don't think you understand the energy contained within a sun, even if they had the ability to nuke the "smallest" one when it was the furthest away, the resulting explosion would tear the surface off their planet and leave it uninhabitable for millions of years while it cooled down, assuming it didn't just disintegrate it outright. Do you not understand scale or magnitude?
lol you're moronic. A sun can fart in your general direction and obliterate your planet and you think they could safely destroy one because they're "far enough" even though they would still be within its influence? idiot
>Plot the movement of the smalles sun, destroy it with a sun-sized photon
pretty sure shooting the sun with a super energized photon was how the singer civilization destroyed the Trisolarans in the third book
>the actual sky flickers for everyone, not just protag wearing the radiation observer helmet thing >YOU'RE BUGS is projected on electronic devices instead of in peoples eyes like the countdown
Just why? If they wanted to let the cat out of the bag early with the flicker then fine, but why change the bugs bit? It's like one of the coolest parts
Any strong asian males in this show aside from BD Wong?
Asking for a friend before I invest in this little bit of cultural appropriation.
Or are they made gay like in shows like:
Grey's Anatomy
Star Trek 2009
Swamp Thing (2019)
Clickbait (2021)
That '90s Show (2023)
>Any strong asian males in this show aside from BD Wong?
No. The strong Asian male leads are rewritten into the following:
A crazy BPD woman who screams at her friends constantly and has had a lot of plastic surgery.
A very stupid looking Black person with glasses.
And a pajeet.
one guy is dying and his sister asks him if he even has a woman to worry about and he said >could be a man
he said it just to frick with her. That's the only gay thing I can remember.
one guy is dying and his sister asks him if he even has a woman to worry about and he said >could be a man
he said it just to frick with her. That's the only gay thing I can remember.
they also randomly drop in that the cops son has a boyfriend because why not
I'm surprised they're burning through so much in 8 episodes. Also, who's fricking idea was it to take a perfectly serviceable "trisolaris" and go with "San-ti" lol that's so fricking stupid.
That's the twist, is that the Trisolari native language is coincidentally identical to Chinese, they call themselves San-Ti, the way Japs call themselves Nipponese or w/e
They were obviously going to dumb it down no matter what streaming service or studio it was under, the hard sci fi elements of the books are far too niche for general audiences to give a frick about so pandering to morons was inevitable. That being said I still think they did a pretty good job having to make a more consumable version while still somewhat faithful to the books
>while still somewhat faithful to the books
Yes, I remember fondly about how Luo Ji was a Black person and his wife was the magic nano filament lady. Oh, and also, they were both long time friends of Xin.
I watched the first 4 episodes. It's pretty good. Samwell's character was annoying as frick, glad he's dead. This hollywood depiction of every scientist just wanting to go out clubbing and do hard drugs is also just weird to me. I know no one wants to watch a show about a bunch of autistic scientists, but it's still dumb.
Some of the characters are pretty fricking dumb though
point 2 is actually my favorite part about the story, of course the show butchers it though. the source material characters are very unemotional and pragmatic because of chinese culture, so in that context it becomes pretty poignant that the catalyst for everything is just raw human emotional spite lashing out. They completely removed a whole chunk of her story as well which surprised me. Definitely a waste of a great villain
To give you an idea how bad D&D are as writers just look at point 2). They character assassinated Ye Wenjie and fundamentally misunderstood her as a character. She was a selfish, complicated individual driven to an extreme sense of jadedness and apathy for what humankind had become via her experiences, but ultimately desired humanity to be saved by these greater beings, even before she relearned to love humanity again. But now she’s just some slighted woman on a quest for personal vengeance. The CR radicalized YWJ in that it proved to her that humanity is awful, and that extraterrestrial interference from more technologically advanced beings would correct humanity, not fuel her desire to see it go dying out. That was what Evans was there for, to counter the Redemptionists which of course were taken out.
Then they somehow managed to get rid of all the intrigue in finding who was the leader of the ETO and somehow even managed to remove the slow dread from the cosmic horror aspect of the universe’s flickering. TBP has its faults, but that oppressive sense of awe/dread at the scale of the universe and greater intellectual life forms, and appreciation for life is its driving force. To take it away removes the spirit of the books.
>TBP has its faults, but that oppressive sense of awe/dread at the scale of the universe and greater intellectual life forms, and appreciation for life is its driving force. To take it away removes the spirit of the books.
It's crazy how small of a threat the aliens feel in the show. In the books, there's stuff like the shooter and farmer hypothesis to build the slow sense of dread that the characters are living in the abject horror of a closed system. They aren't, but it's all part of the ayy's plan.
All of this is removed in the slopflix show. Nobody even fricking cares about the sky blinking, because dabid&dabid think they wouldn't really care, it's just funny looking, right?
One more thing that annoys me: the reaction of everyone that we're all gonna died in four centuries. The obvious comparison is global warming. We know about it, it's been scientifically proven, and many people think it's a hoax. That coincides with the whole "you are bugs" thing. You got followers, haters, believers and people who think it's a hoax. But the premise remains ... we're screwed but we have four centuries. Is civilization collapsing because of our knowledge about global warming? No. Nobody fricking cares.
it's kind of a bad comparison though. Global warming is an implied threat that technically is in our hands. The alien threat is like a school bully telling you he's gonna kick your ass at recess
lol fricking dumb comparison
Global warming causing total civilizational collapse to extinction is not guaranteed to happen, nor strikes any immediate fear in people, and people still feel there's ways to stop and mitigate.
Literally aliens coming to invade and kill you, while already having their advanced surveillance probes fricking you up, and being so technologically superior it feels completely hopeless is completely different.
In the books environmentalism is a prominent factor in the pro-invasion movement, the show just hasn't bothered with any intricacies like that. For what it's worth the threat of climate change isn't anything close to alien invasion tier and it's effects can be pretty easily mitigated and prepared for
he ends up giving humanity a hint as to how they could survive this ordeal and ultimately ends up being one of the last surviving humans. He meets up with Jin in the way distant future only to immediately lose her but get a younger hotter puss. Any metacommentary is new and from bad writers so your guess is as good as any.
Setup for the third season, but dabid and dabid don't know what numbers are so they think at 80KM/s he will eventually reach the fleet. I mean, I guess they're right, he would meet them, about 20 seconds before they invade.
maybe the probe falls into a wormhole and actually arrives at the Trisolarian fleet before it launched, so he was with them the whole time (after his egg cracked - she's Sophon now)
The ETO is now one magical girl who is a hardcore zealot, can kill trained military men off-screen, and appear anywhere the show needs her to appear in order to try and kill cast members. You know, it's just like GoT.
black dude messes with the cancer dude when they're talking about a star in the big dipper formation by claiming cancer dude got the wrong star. black dude then says what the frick would he know about stars.
It's even funnier when the Black person is meant to be Luo Ji, who is an astronomer. He's exactly the kind of character who might know the names of stars.
most of the observable stars with the naked eye also have normal names, mostly arabic and greek
I guess no one that read the script likes astronomy, why do they have to freestyle shit like that
Are there any asian male characters other than the fat guy? How come all the asian men are gone but the asian women get to stay?
No. They've also already revealed all the major characters for the whole show length, so no more will be appearing. Maybe they'll make another side character into an asian man.
>Why does the usual MUH REPRESENTATION crowd let them get away with it?
Asians are honorary whites because they do well in schools. So changing out Chinese characters for mutt women, jeets, and Black folk is a step up the diversity totem pole and totally fine.
Well, they did make the little cuckold brain boy into a white guy. Very nice of them.
CHINA IS A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS
LOOK AT THIS WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE! IT SPEAKS OF A “DARK STRANGER” DURING THE THREE KINGDOMS PERIOD. THIS PROVES THAT BLACKS ARE A BIG PART OF CHINESE CULTURE
EVERYTHING YOU LIKE ABOUT CHINA IS BECAUSE OF BLACK PEOPLE
56 different types of Chinese but looking back it was tactical mistake and in the long term will provide the foundation for American imperialists to facetiously claim that In fact! China is le diversity so don’t be surprised when our movies based in China are drowning in Black folk and Mexicans
Those aren’t immigrants though
Those are foundational members of 天下
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Those aren’t immigrants though
Immigrant is a very precarious term. We are technically "immigrants" unless we were from central Africa where all humans were originally 200,000 year ago. The English are technically "immigrants" to England, but they indigenized, to bring (something) under the control, dominance, or influence of the people native to an area, to there centuries ago. So the term you are looking for indigenized. I would say immigrants today would be 1st or 2nd generation peoples who moved to x country to live.
The scene itself is cool, but the decision to have Evans desperately fleeing through the ship was just a bit moronic. Cooler to have him just get sliced to ribbons in his bed without noticing.
You could essentially have a supercut of the show that's just the scenes with Evans in, and it would be all that is worth watching from this trainwreck.
they burn through the first book and get into the second. Tbf, most of the first book is just laying down the rules the story is going to follow. Alot is spent in the shitty "game" but translated to the screen it doesn't take up too much time. Also they cut a majority of the red coast plots.
How did this show have a $200m budget and yet the sky flickering scene looked so bad. Instead of what happens in the books they just spend $5 on sfx and make it all go black.
They spent more on some of the other CG effects, please understand.
>they ruined da shi (the cop)
Did they emasculate the one single asian guy left in the cast?
They reduce his role to a guy who sits in a room magically wiretapping people, he does absolutely no real detective work and barely asks the main gang a couple of questions. Also he has a homosexual son.
I'm at the stepladder scene...JFC this is so not compelling. Having the gay doing the countdown and then the primary characters making relieved faces is so fricking stupid.
Everything with brain boy was a total miss in the show. All of this stuff is a footnote in the third book that takes place over a single chapter, but they stretched it out here instead so people can go "wow how amazing they planned all that" when it has a pay-off in 20 episodes.
The pacing in this show has the exact opposite problem of the tencent show; it's way too fast. They're rushing through everything. Ye essentially ran that entire base and was very respected but you'd never know that watching the netflix series because they spend a grand total of five minutes at red coast. Why this was only 8 episodes, while also working in elements from the next two books, is beyond me.
They rush all the weird sciency stuff and character relationships so they can have more scenes where the 5 buddies look sad and whine and mope at each other about nothing. Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
>Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
But how could my discovery in nanotechnology lead to the creation of weapons, unthinkable!
Everything with brain boy was a total miss in the show. All of this stuff is a footnote in the third book that takes place over a single chapter, but they stretched it out here instead so people can go "wow how amazing they planned all that" when it has a pay-off in 20 episodes.
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They rush all the weird sciency stuff and character relationships so they can have more scenes where the 5 buddies look sad and whine and mope at each other about nothing. Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
>Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
So is this show about why we should be okay with shadowy government organizations killing large groups of non-combatants and civilians? Because this feels like justification for shit like Operation Northwoods and slaughter of the Branch Davidians at Waco. If that's what this show is, this might be the most disgusting propaganda Hollywood has produced in years. Combine this with Oppeinheimer and it really seems like the israelites in charge are prepping the public for WW3 and tons of evil acts they're about to commit.
I'm sure giving away such technology to anyone who wants to build it will have no lasting impact!
I mean, it won't, this is dabid&dabid we're talking about here.
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Killing cultists and race traitors is morally good, even if they're children.
>we have been brainwashed and excited for the CIA to kill innocents during WW3
Disgusting people.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>WW3
Any attempt at a WW3 will result in civil war. China could nuke California tomorrow and I wouldn't give a shit, why would any military aged man?
1 month ago
Anonymous
All they have to do is tell you morons that you''ll be allowed to torture and abuse other humans, specifically your political enemies, and you'll be jumping for joy for war. You sound like a conservative, so they'll just come up with some story about how woke leftists in China want to take away your hamburgers or whatever.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You hate your own neighbors and your own countrymen who live in other states and you think you can't be convinced to hate the Chinese? All they have to do is change your programming.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You don't understand apathy. Nobody wants to go die in a ditch in some shithole on the other side of the world. If push comes to shove, recruitment centers will start being bombed, officers will be shot by smiling recruits. There is zero national pride anymore, the best the public can muster is a fond remembrance of the old times.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>we're apathetic, but we'll bomb the recruiters
You act like you'll still be apathetic by the end of this election cycle. They're going to have Trump win and it's going to be very theatrical and then there will be a huge false flag event that will motivate you to fight, and then you'll be sent by your big daddy Trump to go fight and you'll do so willingly.
I wish you wouldn't, but based on yours and other anons reactions to this propaganda, it's clear you're already prepped and ready to serve as golems.
I'm sure giving away such technology to anyone who wants to build it will have no lasting impact!
I mean, it won't, this is dabid&dabid we're talking about here.
[...] >Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
So is this show about why we should be okay with shadowy government organizations killing large groups of non-combatants and civilians? Because this feels like justification for shit like Operation Northwoods and slaughter of the Branch Davidians at Waco. If that's what this show is, this might be the most disgusting propaganda Hollywood has produced in years. Combine this with Oppeinheimer and it really seems like the israelites in charge are prepping the public for WW3 and tons of evil acts they're about to commit.
Killing cultists and race traitors is morally good, even if they're children.
The pacing in this show has the exact opposite problem of the tencent show; it's way too fast. They're rushing through everything. Ye essentially ran that entire base and was very respected but you'd never know that watching the netflix series because they spend a grand total of five minutes at red coast. Why this was only 8 episodes, while also working in elements from the next two books, is beyond me.
Probably because streaming site algorithms have surmised that 8 episodes is the perfect amount needed to get the most viewers per dollars spent. They don't care about pacing, story telling, character development; they only care about metrics.
I thought it was slow paced. There's barely any plot. Would've worked better as 2 hour movie, but tv shows get more minutes watched which is more important to streaming companies
they spent at least half the show on bullshit cw tier relationship drama that was totally nonexistent in the book and irrelevant to the plot it's insane
I think the "Oxford Five" are all friends because modern diverse writing teams have no clue how to write relationship development. They were all brought up on Friends, you have a group of Friends and it doesn't matter what you do to them, or how you act, because you're all FRIENDS and will stay that way forever. You don't need to show any of these "Friends" supporting each other in any way, that's best left unsaid. It's much easier to just have all the relationships already clearly defined in the first episode instead of having to do scary things like writing characters meeting for the first time.
It's propaganda that is turning the public into war mongering blood lusting freaks, just like the stuff they put out before 9/11 to get people excited for the Iraq war and torturing Muslims.
Was it not that the one good alien sent his message then the other alien sent the bugs message and that was the secret message that was hidden on the boat. The details of the books are fuzzy to me though.
It's hard to say, chinks are review bombing it. I think it's middle of the road. Hated by fans, barely noticed by normalgays, just another product in the endless line of new slop to consume.
I know the Dragon Demands covered how ridiculously over budget D&D spent on the show to the point it would have to make 3 times as popular as a major show just to break even.
If you guys want to shitpost about politics at least do it properly, the show promotes the idea of a unified human government.
Other theories are just your mind rotten brain projecting his delusions.
>bro, killing small groups of civilians and children is okay because they're terrorists and cult members who disagree with our one world government
Not making this show seem like it's anything other than evil.
Right just finished it. Overall I'd say it's mid, decent for those who read the book and want to see it live. There's too many plot changes, and the reveals and twists are definitely worse compared to the book.
I'm more interested to know what people who haven't read the book think.
Also I can't remember who tatianna is in the book?
>Also I can't remember who tatianna is in the book?
She's nobody. I think there was a similar enforcer type in the chink show, I stopped watching after a certain point.
In the shitflix show, her purpose is to be the new face of the ETO, it's too hard to have multiple characters, so she will be wallbreaking all the wallfacers as a stronk independant zealot woman who don't need no sophon.
From what I've looked up about the first book, it's scientists talking in rooms about very complex equations and human collaborators sabotaging human tech in order to soften us in a few hundred years for invasion. So there are no aliens this season.
I picture them looking like anthropomorphic man-o-war jellyfish
They’re supposed to be able to dehydrate and be easily rehydrated after long periods.
They’re also transparent and communicate through light signals and canonically they are incapable of lying (or rather the concept is foreign to them due to their anatomy and main form of communication)
Read a random review of it while bored at work and they said it was better then the book because they removed all the sexist and other problematic bits. So I don't think I will bother watching.
Link me to this homosexual review
I need to have a laugh
I’m actually staying at an Airbnb with Netflix right now and I was going to give it a watch until I saw that webm of the Hispanic and the Black person at the bar
It was in some scientific magazine somebody left at work. It wasn't that funny anyway, it was a mostly normal but not very informative review until the end where she just dumps that before finishing.
The idea humanity could threaten mutually assured destruction with the aliens is just straight up cope from the author. The aliens blow up our fleet and put us all into their bio-zoo.
tencent show with skipping > book > minecraft version made by kids >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 body by netflix
its like they actually have to go out of their way to frick up the story and ideas here. What a fricking disaster
>So I guess nobody is going to bring up how moronic rolling up dehydrated people is?
It's an abstraction to make ayy physiology more palatable. For all we know they dehydrate into nice neat cubes for stacking.
The premise fundamentally is flawed on the simple premise that aliens with the advanced tech levels to travel to earth would simply steam roll us and turn us into bio-zoo pets. Like if they can already sabotage our tech in the 1960s, it’s more or less game over and we should simply submit to the aliens
>The premise fundamentally is flawed on the simple premise that aliens with the advanced tech levels to travel to earth would simply steam roll us and turn us into bio-zoo pets.
That's what happens though...
IIRC in the book it takes the aliens a lot of time to develop to the point that they are so
They see Humanities relatively quick development and so they feel the need to stunt humanity so that when they arrive there are no chances of being defeated
There's no way the book explicitly says that, right?
The explanation in the show is pretty stupid. It's the opposite. The aliens would be even better than humans at advancing quickly, since they would've had very short window to get to their current tech level. Not to mention they would've done it multiple times already, so lots of practice, natural selection, etc.
Yeah, in fact they *should* think we are less beings. But not because we can lie or whatever the show was saying. Instead they should look down on us because we are like a spoiled rich kid. Blessed with a stable orbit, and it took us 100,000 uninterrupted years of progress to get into space. They probably did it in under 1000.
read it or watch it at least dummy, it'll take them 400 years to get to earth and they don't know shit about them. plenty of animals are stronger and faster than us but we won
The funny thing about 3 Body Problem is that it won in the first year the Right Culture Warriors pulled this off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies
tl;dr some people didn't like that sci-fi was becoming too full of "The Message," nevermind that dozens of speculative fiction that all had their own messages. So they got together and mass voted by books they actually liked- leading to some authors to pull out once they realised just "how" they had been nominated. Wasn't technically vote rigging but def organised campaigning.
I'm guessing at least a fuel of these people were also anti-communist or anti-what-they-think-is-communism. Yet sometimes I wonder. If that hadn't happen, would 3BP still win and become what it is today. And did they end up delivering a victory to actual Communists?
>Boring minorities yapping about who cares for an hour
Didn’t even finish first episode
Then you missed the anti-communism and anti-immigrant themes.
Tell me more, anon. Particularly about the latter.
same. absolutely fricking soulless
what did you like about it, anon
Someone give it to me straight: decent scifi show or half a movie's worth of story stretched into a season of episodes? I don't think I can waste any more of my time on nothing-happens shows that just wait and cram the whole plot into the last 10 minutes of the last episode.
Read the books instead.
Watch on 1.5x if you're a fan of the books.
>decent scifi show or half a movie's worth of story stretched into a season
Neither. It's a whole book and more of events butchered, dumbed down and crammed into 8 episodes. The only reason to watch it is to know exactly how trash it is. Do yourself a favor and read the books.
Better just to stop telling people you ever read these books. They're just going to think you're a moron.
>caring what other people think
Read the book. The premise is interesting, it has good scifi elements and the whole saga span centuries.
hmm ... read the book, or watch a cheesy Netflix soap opera ...
you lost me there mate
a good compromise is to listen to the audiobook.
Is it narrated by Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis?
I don't know, but the guy who reads it has to do asian female voices and it sounds racist as frick.
how is that racist? that's what they sound like.
it's just funny hearing him pretty much go
>HERRO
If you're gonna do anything just read no more about it and watch the tencent version
i dont read books
D&D cannot write intelligent characters. It's all frick this frick that dude weed lmao XD and sassy twitter girlboss clapbacks. Same exact problem with GOT. The only good dialogue came from directly from the book. Imagine being worse at writing dialogue than a Chinese autist being translated into English.
>D&D cannot write intelligent characters
That's because they're idiots.
the way they radically simplify everything to avoid having to explain any actual science at any point is really grating
having the aliens just immediately reveal themselves to the entire world by visibly flickering the sky is such a bad change and it would have taken 30 seconds to explain the cosmic microwave background. could've been done with zero time lost if they just cut some of the relationshit drama from the scene. if they want the big dramatic effect of the sky flickering they can do it as a nightmare.
It's dumbed down to the netflix/appletv streaming audience and it works.
Look how popular For All Mankind was here when it's a glorified soap opera.
at least For All Mankind gave a frick about scientific accuracy in the first 2 seasons
they have to dumb it down for the nigflix audience
The whole appeal of the books were the science fiction elements, it's a science fiction novel not a character drama.
the whole premise is moronic, it is established that they could manipulate ppl with cephalons, why not manipulate everyone and try to an hero them?
not everyone would murder themselfes but enough that it cripples humanity
why not make every plane pilot blind?
Because they can't, and they don't believe they need to in the first place. There are only two sophons, and even though they can move at light speed, they can't affect everyone all at once. Wade and Jin even discuss the possibility of overwhelming the sophons with enough particle accelerators operating simultaneously across the Earth and on the Moon.
Their average speed is 1% of light speed. Given enough time and energy, it's "easy" to accelerate anything to near light speed. The Trisolarans are limited by how close they are already to Earth, and that their matter-antimatter propulsion relies on gathering fuel from clouds of gas and only accelerating in short bursts along the way.
Why waste time with sophons at all? A small rock pushed to .1C would wipe out life and blanket the planet in dust for a few hundred years.
All of this stuff is plot contrivance because the base concept is "oh no the ayys have us cornered we can't do science", followed by "haha we didn't really need science anyway we can just asspull a solution".
>wipe out life and blanket the planet in dust for a few hundred years.
They want to keep the planet and the ecosystem, not destroy it. All they need is to have humans die off and with minimal disruption.
Again, plot contrivance. You don't need a potentially hazardous ecosystem, it's easy enough to bring your own. You don't need to destroy the planet to wipe out life.
>plot contrivance
ok sure man just let the aliens instakill humans and then there's no fricking plot at all.
moron.
The Trisolarans are willing to let all humans live the rest of their lives out, but they can't reproduce. They're not destroying humans because they are evil and hate us, but because they deem it a necessity to their survival. Also, you need to stop thinking of all trisolarans being in agreement on how to deal with humans. They can have differing opinions just like us.
The Trisolarans are also considered to be pretty dumb and arrogant in the grand scheme of things. If they were smart, they would have vaporized or 2Dified us ASAP and lived on space ships.
Well, they are what they are and the story is what it is. If they were more aggressive it would be a different book.
I'm just saying that it's true that the aliens are stupid. It's not a plot contrivance, it's one of the main themes of the series: arrogance.
I can imagine humans thinking that way to ease their conscience about committing xenocide.
All you need is one faction with the ability to throw a rock. There's nothing gracious about letting your enemies continue living for a generation, and the only reason to leave humanity alive for 400 years is to give them the ability to beat you.
Look, I enjoyed the second book man. But it's filled with asspulls, because it's an attempt to try and blend "hard" sci-fi with entertainment.
>All you need is one faction with the ability to throw a rock. There's nothing gracious about letting your enemies continue living for a generation, and the only reason to leave humanity alive for 400 years is to give them the ability to beat you.
That's just the dark forest. Don't worry your wish will come true eventually.
Fiction, especially "science" fiction is full of asspulls otherwise there wouldn't be any fiction. Stop being fricking autistic. The books are good. They pull things out the ass, sure, so what?
so it's fantasy for babies and there is no such thing as hard s-f only baby ideas with reddit "science" sprinkled on
anon, it's science fiction, not science non-fiction
>frick, I'm a scientists, brb changing my wardrobe and I need to smoke, frick
>meanwhile on the tencent version
They actually made a joke in the show about how bad an actress and she is only hired for her looks. That was the only intelligent line in the entire series.
I could not take her and her lips seriously in any scene she was in. Terrible casting.
id seriously take her lips if you know what im talking about
I do anon, I do. Even her acting was porn-tier.
shes way to hot
This, they should be euthanized for the good of society
Dude what if scientists were all cool and smoked pot and went to clubs and said frick all the time. Hell yeah dude.
and smoked cigarettes
and fricked Black folk
Dude what if WW2 pilots were all cool and smoked cigarettes and drank all night at the hall and wore cool jackets all the time. Hell yeah dude.
what do you even mean
pilots were Chads, it's a classic egotistical career attraction
scientists are not "muh le cool cigarette man" they are goofy morons that get upset over what other people's opinions of their work are
watch the chink version instead or read the book
they ruined da shi (the cop) and that kind of makes it hard to make the first season land right. having thomas wade around already helps a little but doesn't fully make up for it. i actually do think bringing parts of the later books forward was a good idea, but the execution is a disaster.
>i actually do think bringing parts of the later books forward was a good idea,
It leaves the cast too cluttered. They absolutely destroyed nanotech guy by making him into 2 intolerable women because Jin needed something to do this season too. Having a whiny cancer guy around for the whole show might work if he felt even slightly sympathetic, but he's a waste of life teacher who looks like a gay and spends the whole time crying about how he's going to die oh noes.
Nig Ji does absolutely nothing the whole show, and making the protagonists all buddies at the start is fricking dumb. The whole point of setting a show over 400 years is so that you can have characters who go "yeah, I don't really care that much about the end of the world or whatever, I'm just going to raise my kids and die in the present". Instead, all of these atrocious characters will be around for all 3 seasons, constantly fricking nattering at each other.
>I don't care if my grand kids suffer in the future as long as I get mine.
Peak boomer.
>noo I need a free ride to the future in a cryo-tank I sure hope everyone else builds the future for me!
Enjoy the great ravine, buddy.
>they ruined da shi (the cop)
Did they emasculate the one single asian guy left in the cast?
not really, he was just too aloof.
I liked the part when the redhead coalburner got killed by a car.
Wait so black guy is Lou ji and cancer guy is probably Yun Tianming?
yes. yun tianming was telegraphed very early on because of the rich friend, while it took a while longer for it to be obvious who was supposed to be luo ji.
Hold up. Don’t fricking lie to me, b***h.
Are you saying the cast a Black person for Luo Ji?
How do they explain that a Black person had a Chinese name?
Wait- don’t tell me
>OH SO YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM BELIEVING IN ALIENS AND SOPHONS BUT BLACK PEOPLE BEGGAR BELIEF?!?
Luo Ji doesn't exist, his character got replaced by that guy
I can’t believe that
Also, who the frick is “Auggie Salazar”
I read the books a few years ago and I don’t remember any such character.
Is Netflix inflicting American diversity on a Chinese sci-fi story?
I don’t remember many non Chinese in the book except for the billionaire and the historical characters in the sim
Auggie is half of the nanotech guy, Wang. The other half of his story (all the VR stuff) was given to Jin, who is the second sword holder prostitute and she needed some stuff to do this season. It's all as clunky as you'd imagine.
How in crikey frick did they scree it up this bad?
You had a show that canonically “diverse” in the sense that it’s mostly nonwhites but Netflix needed for it to be bovine hispanics and Black folk with and-everyone-clapped dialogue and vacant expressions.
I was actually hopeful for this series since there was no obvious provocation (overwhelmingly white cast of characters, right wing premise) that would instigate Netflix to compensate by pozzing
A majority Chinese cast is a no-no, not diverse enough.
>Why only 3 wallfacers also?
Probably to save time. I wonder which plan they'll cut, probably the mind control one.
I figured that they would go the bbc route and make the billionaire environmentalist a Black person or Black personfy Sir Isaac Newton
Oh well. I guess we still have the books
The billionaire environmentalist is evil, so it's fine if he's white. They couldn't make a villain black, not these days.
D&D think an object travelling at 80KM/s will somehow manage to meet the fleet within the next 390 years.
the object was meant to be traveling faster, but things went wrong.
No shit, they went wrong in the books, but they didn't go that fricking wrong. It's a physical impossibility for the fricking fleet to encounter brain boy on any reasonable timescale, they'd be on our fricking doorstep while they're trying to put his brain back together and work out how it works.
>D&D think an object travelling at 80KM/s will somehow manage to meet the fleet within the next 390 years.
LOL oh jesus
>The billionaire environmentalist is evil
Did George Bush write this book?
Kek not only did they make Wang into a women, it’s a woman who takes theatrical umbrage when people suggest that there might exist a male scientist in this universe
There is truly no misfortune too violent or gruesome that I would ever feel an iota of pity for anyone who works in Hollywood
Oh shit. These characters are a fricking mess. Also dae remember the part in the story where all the main characters were connected and everyone knew each other before even all the main events started?
That's my favorite part.
>netflix
D&D just need to focus on Wade for the other reason to redeem this crap.
It was decent until the last 3 eps. I mean what the frick was that shit. Aliens are coming to wipe out humanity and these weak, useless fricks more concerned with morality and emotions, constantly wining about pointless bullshit when humanity needs to become more militaristic than they ever have in all of human history? Especially that b***h Auggie. More concerned with helping developing shitholes than making materials, tools, weapons, space infrastructure with her magic nanofibre macguffins. I would turn her into my personal wienersleve in that situation. I would blow massive loads down her throat in such quantities and with such frequency that she would end up drowning on my fricking cum. I was actually enjoying this slop too. Ridiculous.
The arms industry wins in book 2.
That's actually the premise of two latter books. That humanity is going extinct but crabs in a bucket go about morality and gaslight anyone who tries to save at least few humans from demise because their vision needs some sacrifice or cannot save all.
>Especially that b***h Auggie
Yes, easily the most annoying character and shitty acting as well on her part.
Book 1
>Woman hates herself and wants to kill humanity. Man discovers aliens by playing VRChat. A boat sails through that laser trap in Resident Evil.
Book 2
>Chinese man creates a tulpa and falls in love before killing her then uses his government powers to get a waifu and be rich. Hugo Chavez tries to blow up Mercury. Donald Rumsfeld wants to make some kinda suicide squad. Someone decides to shoot a brain at the ayys for the fun of it (this doesn't actually happen in the book but is retconned in the third because there were no original plans to continue the series after this book). Chinese man gets waifu taken away, goes to the future, threatens to kill himself and the ayyys kneel before him Vegeta style, resulting in a new Golden Age for humanity.
Book 3
>Dumb woman gets into power, IMMEDIATELY, I mean literally within one second of gaining power, dooms the world and turns humanity into slaves. Ayys discover their love of anime waifus and make one to rule humanity. Astronauts decide to kill the ayys and humanity. The universe realizes 3D is pig disgusting and return to glorious 2D. Brain shot at ayys actually loved Dumb woman and tells her about 2D anime time after the Ayys decide to resurrect him for who knows what reason. Some guys decide they're just going to create their own universes because the current universe is too lame.
chavez did nothing wrong
hmmm so this is the great series shilled on Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile for so many years, it turns out my anime have better plot
totally organic thread
>new show drops
>people discuss it
You're right, anon. It is a little suspicious.
yeah when the exact same poster is in the catalog over and over again all day it's not organic. same thing happens with pantheon 2022. no screenshots from the show itself, just the poster again and again. this is an advertisement campaign
just frick off then
>this is an advertisement campaign
Every other post is someone saying that it sucks ass and you shouldn't watch it.
It just came out, people are going to talk about how awful it was. Give it a week, the threads will dry up as people get bored of laughing about how bad it was.
No, Sam Hyde threads are an advertisement campaign. This is what happens when a new television show comes out. It gets discussed on a television board.
If it wasn't organic the threads wouldn't be so active.
>muh science
>words words words: the show
>the entire universe blinked in front of everybody on earth
>yeah it's bullshit that's deepfake
does the dumb brothers even understand how deepfake works?
The dumbshit brothers don't understand anything, if the sky started blinking there would be mass panic. There's a great scene later on when the aliens come out and say "frick you" and people actually start rioting, and there's a shot where like 50 people have decided to all randomly hang themselves on lampposts down a street, side by side, very neatly.
Alright, here's a question.
If this story were real, and the world enacted the Wallfacer program, who are the four real people who should get the position?
>who are the four real people who should get the position?
Should? Who cares. Would? A bunch of rich israelites.
The US would give it to Neil Degrasse Tyson or some such
The UK would have some paki or pajeet like that palala girl who couldn’t go to school
Greta thunberg would be another
The Chinese might take it seriously or they might just send some rando while they build giant escalators to swallow the aliens.
For Russia it would be some Putin lackey who just tried to divert resources to Russian oligarchs
>The US would give it to Neil Degrasse Tyson
The moron who got btfo by Steak Umms?
Yeah
That dude, Stacey Abrahams, Lizzo, or one of the Obamas
People here meme about “humiliation rituals” but it’s actually the state religion over here
I LOVE TATIANA MY WIFE
Interracial couple show. Great if you want to watch whites kissing yellows and browns
the white is actually cucked by a pajeet and doesn't get to kiss his chink waifu
On episode 2 now. Was not expecting this but I love it so far
>thrive in a chaotic, 3 star system with fricked up planet
>dehydrate whenever and wake up naked in the pool
>can turn sub-atomic particles into super computers
>can achieve 1% light speed
>can’t lie, always honest and open
Bros, why are the Santi so based?
Where do people keep getting this 0.1% to 1% of light speed? I thought they could achieve near light speed but accelerating and decelerating takes 4oo years. Did I misinterpret the book or did the show change that?
The Trisolarans invent lightspeed after they've already sent the invasion fleet.
>I thought they could achieve near light speed but accelerating and decelerating takes 4oo years.
No, they can't go that fast.
This isn't the famous 3 body problem, this is a soulless dumbed down version for the Netflix crowd, with massive sweeping changes across the board.
Die traitor of humanity
git folded, bug
I can't believe this is the famous 3 Body Problem everyone's been on about for a decade.
This is garbage.
>this is the famous 3 Body Problem
it isn't. What you're thinking of is the Remembrance of Earth's past books
The Oxford Five were way better in the books.
Yeah, probably because they didn't exist.
Its really reflective of a lot of modern sci-fi writing; Women right about everything, white guys are morons, I'm not surprised it was so popular.
>Women right about everything
We reading the same books?
>white guys are morons
Wade?
You need to try harder to bait against bookreaders.
You guys can't really enjoy anything uh
Why didn't they simply destroy one of the suns and leave a predictable survival plan?
>because then there wouldn't be a series.
But wait, they don't have the tech to destroy a sun
>bullshit.
how would they destroy a sun without destroying their system?
The suns come and go huge distances. They cannot predict the movement of all three over any length of time, but they have harnessed the power of the universe, essentially.
Plot the movement of the smalles sun, destroy it with a sun-sized photon, that leave two suns whose movements are perfectly predictable and they survive where they are.
It's a lazy plot based on lazy writing and given the Netflix treatment.
>The suns come and go huge distances.
No, they don't. I don't think you understand the energy contained within a sun, even if they had the ability to nuke the "smallest" one when it was the furthest away, the resulting explosion would tear the surface off their planet and leave it uninhabitable for millions of years while it cooled down, assuming it didn't just disintegrate it outright. Do you not understand scale or magnitude?
And many more exmaples...
There's no story otherwise
lol you're moronic. A sun can fart in your general direction and obliterate your planet and you think they could safely destroy one because they're "far enough" even though they would still be within its influence? idiot
>Plot the movement of the smalles sun, destroy it with a sun-sized photon
pretty sure shooting the sun with a super energized photon was how the singer civilization destroyed the Trisolarans in the third book
Why didn't Walt simple take his old partner's job offer with full medical?
Because there wouldn't be a series.
Why didn´t God simple stop Satan from entering paradise???
And many cases alike...
>bullshit.
404 argument not found.
>the actual sky flickers for everyone, not just protag wearing the radiation observer helmet thing
>YOU'RE BUGS is projected on electronic devices instead of in peoples eyes like the countdown
Just why? If they wanted to let the cat out of the bag early with the flicker then fine, but why change the bugs bit? It's like one of the coolest parts
>dude SCIENCE
why didn't the super computer just blind everyone?
last thing they would want is to increase humans' other senses.
Was it ever explained how the Trisol system is basically somewhere near Alpha Centauri but no one could see it?
What do you mean no one can see it? The stars are visible every night.
>BMWF
not watching it
thats a Latina
https://streamable.com/8268ns
Any strong asian males in this show aside from BD Wong?
Asking for a friend before I invest in this little bit of cultural appropriation.
Or are they made gay like in shows like:
Grey's Anatomy
Star Trek 2009
Swamp Thing (2019)
Clickbait (2021)
That '90s Show (2023)
I'm like on episode 6, I can't remember a single asian male except for the ones from old china that they never really bring up again.
>Any strong asian males in this show aside from BD Wong?
No. The strong Asian male leads are rewritten into the following:
A crazy BPD woman who screams at her friends constantly and has had a lot of plastic surgery.
A very stupid looking Black person with glasses.
And a pajeet.
>And a pajeet.
who was he in the books?
He's Beihai, the spaceship thief in the second book.
how could I forget. For a second I thought he would be the guy that gets instamerc'd first by the droplet.
is there any gay shit, because I don't want to deal with that
lesbians
one guy is dying and his sister asks him if he even has a woman to worry about and he said
>could be a man
he said it just to frick with her. That's the only gay thing I can remember.
Sam Tarly makes a hint that he wants to frick the jeet in the first or second episode, and the detectives son is a homosexual.
I don't remember any of that
There's an extremely graphic anal rape scene. Full penetration. I think it went overboard but I've been called overly-sensitive before.
they also randomly drop in that the cops son has a boyfriend because why not
>broken branch
Apologize
I'm surprised they're burning through so much in 8 episodes. Also, who's fricking idea was it to take a perfectly serviceable "trisolaris" and go with "San-ti" lol that's so fricking stupid.
They were probably worried their 20 IQ actors would stumble on a word as tough to say as "trisolarians".
That's the twist, is that the Trisolari native language is coincidentally identical to Chinese, they call themselves San-Ti, the way Japs call themselves Nipponese or w/e
not sure if you're trolling but my tism compels me to correct you in that they're called that because the fricking chinks made first contact.
It's horrible, that's what D and D decie to keep, but not the other cool elements???
mmmmm, sun tea
They were obviously going to dumb it down no matter what streaming service or studio it was under, the hard sci fi elements of the books are far too niche for general audiences to give a frick about so pandering to morons was inevitable. That being said I still think they did a pretty good job having to make a more consumable version while still somewhat faithful to the books
>while still somewhat faithful to the books
Yes, I remember fondly about how Luo Ji was a Black person and his wife was the magic nano filament lady. Oh, and also, they were both long time friends of Xin.
>how Luo Ji was a Black person
In my high budget Western production? No one could have foreseen this!!
I watched the first 4 episodes. It's pretty good. Samwell's character was annoying as frick, glad he's dead. This hollywood depiction of every scientist just wanting to go out clubbing and do hard drugs is also just weird to me. I know no one wants to watch a show about a bunch of autistic scientists, but it's still dumb.
Some of the characters are pretty fricking dumb though
I'd have to say my favorite parts are:
1) the earth will be destroyed but one sorry b***h is whining about the death of some fanatics on a ship.
2) one woman decides the fate of the earth because she had a rough time of it as a kid, and stands by that bullshit forever.
3) the physicist lady pulls out a paper and folds it and pushes a pin through it to invent light speed.
Did I fricking miss anything? What a contrived shitshow.
point 2 is actually my favorite part about the story, of course the show butchers it though. the source material characters are very unemotional and pragmatic because of chinese culture, so in that context it becomes pretty poignant that the catalyst for everything is just raw human emotional spite lashing out. They completely removed a whole chunk of her story as well which surprised me. Definitely a waste of a great villain
To give you an idea how bad D&D are as writers just look at point 2). They character assassinated Ye Wenjie and fundamentally misunderstood her as a character. She was a selfish, complicated individual driven to an extreme sense of jadedness and apathy for what humankind had become via her experiences, but ultimately desired humanity to be saved by these greater beings, even before she relearned to love humanity again. But now she’s just some slighted woman on a quest for personal vengeance. The CR radicalized YWJ in that it proved to her that humanity is awful, and that extraterrestrial interference from more technologically advanced beings would correct humanity, not fuel her desire to see it go dying out. That was what Evans was there for, to counter the Redemptionists which of course were taken out.
Then they somehow managed to get rid of all the intrigue in finding who was the leader of the ETO and somehow even managed to remove the slow dread from the cosmic horror aspect of the universe’s flickering. TBP has its faults, but that oppressive sense of awe/dread at the scale of the universe and greater intellectual life forms, and appreciation for life is its driving force. To take it away removes the spirit of the books.
>TBP has its faults, but that oppressive sense of awe/dread at the scale of the universe and greater intellectual life forms, and appreciation for life is its driving force. To take it away removes the spirit of the books.
It's crazy how small of a threat the aliens feel in the show. In the books, there's stuff like the shooter and farmer hypothesis to build the slow sense of dread that the characters are living in the abject horror of a closed system. They aren't, but it's all part of the ayy's plan.
All of this is removed in the slopflix show. Nobody even fricking cares about the sky blinking, because dabid&dabid think they wouldn't really care, it's just funny looking, right?
Really enjoying the VR segments
>BlauJi gets shot
>wongs first instinct is to open up his bullet proof jacket and expose his vital organs to subsequent gunfire.
One more thing that annoys me: the reaction of everyone that we're all gonna died in four centuries. The obvious comparison is global warming. We know about it, it's been scientifically proven, and many people think it's a hoax. That coincides with the whole "you are bugs" thing. You got followers, haters, believers and people who think it's a hoax. But the premise remains ... we're screwed but we have four centuries. Is civilization collapsing because of our knowledge about global warming? No. Nobody fricking cares.
it's kind of a bad comparison though. Global warming is an implied threat that technically is in our hands. The alien threat is like a school bully telling you he's gonna kick your ass at recess
The way society deals with giving a frick or not giving a frick is a huge part of the other books
lol fricking dumb comparison
Global warming causing total civilizational collapse to extinction is not guaranteed to happen, nor strikes any immediate fear in people, and people still feel there's ways to stop and mitigate.
Literally aliens coming to invade and kill you, while already having their advanced surveillance probes fricking you up, and being so technologically superior it feels completely hopeless is completely different.
In the books environmentalism is a prominent factor in the pro-invasion movement, the show just hasn't bothered with any intricacies like that. For what it's worth the threat of climate change isn't anything close to alien invasion tier and it's effects can be pretty easily mitigated and prepared for
People don't think it's a hoax... It's the CAUSE that's wrong...
It's the cyclical Magnetic Excursion...
whats the point of the cancer dude? some metacommentary on humanity's eventual extinction?
he ends up giving humanity a hint as to how they could survive this ordeal and ultimately ends up being one of the last surviving humans. He meets up with Jin in the way distant future only to immediately lose her but get a younger hotter puss. Any metacommentary is new and from bad writers so your guess is as good as any.
Setup for the third season, but dabid and dabid don't know what numbers are so they think at 80KM/s he will eventually reach the fleet. I mean, I guess they're right, he would meet them, about 20 seconds before they invade.
maybe the probe falls into a wormhole and actually arrives at the Trisolarian fleet before it launched, so he was with them the whole time (after his egg cracked - she's Sophon now)
>they don't explore the factions within the ETO
>they don't even name the ETO
fricking gay show
The ETO is now one magical girl who is a hardcore zealot, can kill trained military men off-screen, and appear anywhere the show needs her to appear in order to try and kill cast members. You know, it's just like GoT.
Are there any asian male characters other than the fat guy? How come all the asian men are gone but the asian women get to stay?
okay that dx3906 bit was pretty funny.
i was on my phone and missed it. What was it?
black dude messes with the cancer dude when they're talking about a star in the big dipper formation by claiming cancer dude got the wrong star. black dude then says what the frick would he know about stars.
that was stupid.
It's even funnier when the Black person is meant to be Luo Ji, who is an astronomer. He's exactly the kind of character who might know the names of stars.
Isn't he a sociologist???
most of the observable stars with the naked eye also have normal names, mostly arabic and greek
I guess no one that read the script likes astronomy, why do they have to freestyle shit like that
It wasn't, you're a homosexual.
No. They've also already revealed all the major characters for the whole show length, so no more will be appearing. Maybe they'll make another side character into an asian man.
Why did they do this? Why does the usual MUH REPRESENTATION crowd let them get away with it?
>Why does the usual MUH REPRESENTATION crowd let them get away with it?
Asians are honorary whites because they do well in schools. So changing out Chinese characters for mutt women, jeets, and Black folk is a step up the diversity totem pole and totally fine.
Well, they did make the little cuckold brain boy into a white guy. Very nice of them.
CHINA IS A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS
LOOK AT THIS WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE! IT SPEAKS OF A “DARK STRANGER” DURING THE THREE KINGDOMS PERIOD. THIS PROVES THAT BLACKS ARE A BIG PART OF CHINESE CULTURE
EVERYTHING YOU LIKE ABOUT CHINA IS BECAUSE OF BLACK PEOPLE
>CHINA IS A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS
When Mao established the People's Republic of China in 1949, he recognized 56 nations inside China itself.
56 different types of Chinese but looking back it was tactical mistake and in the long term will provide the foundation for American imperialists to facetiously claim that In fact! China is le diversity so don’t be surprised when our movies based in China are drowning in Black folk and Mexicans
Those aren’t immigrants though
Those are foundational members of 天下
>Those aren’t immigrants though
Immigrant is a very precarious term. We are technically "immigrants" unless we were from central Africa where all humans were originally 200,000 year ago. The English are technically "immigrants" to England, but they indigenized, to bring (something) under the control, dominance, or influence of the people native to an area, to there centuries ago. So the term you are looking for indigenized. I would say immigrants today would be 1st or 2nd generation peoples who moved to x country to live.
there is zero proof we came from africa
This scene alone is worth watching.
only kino in the whole 8 episodes. Was actually looking forward to this and wasn't disappointed. Can't say the same for the proton unfolding.
The scene itself is cool, but the decision to have Evans desperately fleeing through the ship was just a bit moronic. Cooler to have him just get sliced to ribbons in his bed without noticing.
You could essentially have a supercut of the show that's just the scenes with Evans in, and it would be all that is worth watching from this trainwreck.
what's happening here?
wait this happens in episode 5???
they burn through the first book and get into the second. Tbf, most of the first book is just laying down the rules the story is going to follow. Alot is spent in the shitty "game" but translated to the screen it doesn't take up too much time. Also they cut a majority of the red coast plots.
How did this show have a $200m budget and yet the sky flickering scene looked so bad. Instead of what happens in the books they just spend $5 on sfx and make it all go black.
They spent more on some of the other CG effects, please understand.
They reduce his role to a guy who sits in a room magically wiretapping people, he does absolutely no real detective work and barely asks the main gang a couple of questions. Also he has a homosexual son.
>Also he has a homosexual son.
Yeah, it's Netflix alright.
no troon yet tho.
Dumb Question #46: Does this series cover the entire trilogy or just the first book?
lol, almost every shot outside is done in a volume and it looks so fricking obvious
>8 episodes
Nothing good had ever been 8 episodes.
Not watching.
>we don't understand what lying is
>where is the big bad wolf?
kek
Did D&D rip off the idea of the aliens being autistic from a Tim Allen's movie?
I'm at the stepladder scene...JFC this is so not compelling. Having the gay doing the countdown and then the primary characters making relieved faces is so fricking stupid.
Everything with brain boy was a total miss in the show. All of this stuff is a footnote in the third book that takes place over a single chapter, but they stretched it out here instead so people can go "wow how amazing they planned all that" when it has a pay-off in 20 episodes.
They rush all the weird sciency stuff and character relationships so they can have more scenes where the 5 buddies look sad and whine and mope at each other about nothing. Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
>Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
But how could my discovery in nanotechnology lead to the creation of weapons, unthinkable!
>Oh no I feel sad because I cut up a bunch of children. Get over it, you fricking prostitute.
So is this show about why we should be okay with shadowy government organizations killing large groups of non-combatants and civilians? Because this feels like justification for shit like Operation Northwoods and slaughter of the Branch Davidians at Waco. If that's what this show is, this might be the most disgusting propaganda Hollywood has produced in years. Combine this with Oppeinheimer and it really seems like the israelites in charge are prepping the public for WW3 and tons of evil acts they're about to commit.
sub 80IQ
>we have been brainwashed and excited for the CIA to kill innocents during WW3
Disgusting people.
>WW3
Any attempt at a WW3 will result in civil war. China could nuke California tomorrow and I wouldn't give a shit, why would any military aged man?
All they have to do is tell you morons that you''ll be allowed to torture and abuse other humans, specifically your political enemies, and you'll be jumping for joy for war. You sound like a conservative, so they'll just come up with some story about how woke leftists in China want to take away your hamburgers or whatever.
You hate your own neighbors and your own countrymen who live in other states and you think you can't be convinced to hate the Chinese? All they have to do is change your programming.
You don't understand apathy. Nobody wants to go die in a ditch in some shithole on the other side of the world. If push comes to shove, recruitment centers will start being bombed, officers will be shot by smiling recruits. There is zero national pride anymore, the best the public can muster is a fond remembrance of the old times.
>we're apathetic, but we'll bomb the recruiters
You act like you'll still be apathetic by the end of this election cycle. They're going to have Trump win and it's going to be very theatrical and then there will be a huge false flag event that will motivate you to fight, and then you'll be sent by your big daddy Trump to go fight and you'll do so willingly.
I wish you wouldn't, but based on yours and other anons reactions to this propaganda, it's clear you're already prepped and ready to serve as golems.
I'm sure giving away such technology to anyone who wants to build it will have no lasting impact!
I mean, it won't, this is dabid&dabid we're talking about here.
Killing cultists and race traitors is morally good, even if they're children.
The pacing in this show has the exact opposite problem of the tencent show; it's way too fast. They're rushing through everything. Ye essentially ran that entire base and was very respected but you'd never know that watching the netflix series because they spend a grand total of five minutes at red coast. Why this was only 8 episodes, while also working in elements from the next two books, is beyond me.
it's because American television is fricking moronic because they think the audience is made of babies
Probably because streaming site algorithms have surmised that 8 episodes is the perfect amount needed to get the most viewers per dollars spent. They don't care about pacing, story telling, character development; they only care about metrics.
I thought it was slow paced. There's barely any plot. Would've worked better as 2 hour movie, but tv shows get more minutes watched which is more important to streaming companies
>There's barely any plot.
Because they skipped over it all.
they spent at least half the show on bullshit cw tier relationship drama that was totally nonexistent in the book and irrelevant to the plot it's insane
I think the "Oxford Five" are all friends because modern diverse writing teams have no clue how to write relationship development. They were all brought up on Friends, you have a group of Friends and it doesn't matter what you do to them, or how you act, because you're all FRIENDS and will stay that way forever. You don't need to show any of these "Friends" supporting each other in any way, that's best left unsaid. It's much easier to just have all the relationships already clearly defined in the first episode instead of having to do scary things like writing characters meeting for the first time.
the worst episode of star trek tng mogs this slop intellectually
The Chinese Communist Revolution parts were the most interesting parts of the show.
Wanted to see that whole story.
i watched the first 5 minutes i literally had to turn off this dumb drivel, im guessing pseudo-intellectual redditors love this shit though
the dialogue in the first episode made me cringe, I'd give this show a 6/10 for now, will see how it goes
give it to me straight Cinemaphile, is it a hit or a flop?
It's propaganda that is turning the public into war mongering blood lusting freaks, just like the stuff they put out before 9/11 to get people excited for the Iraq war and torturing Muslims.
hit if you're not a nerd
why would you go out of your way to tell bugs that they are bugs
to flex your superior technology on them and undermine their morale
Was it not that the one good alien sent his message then the other alien sent the bugs message and that was the secret message that was hidden on the boat. The details of the books are fuzzy to me though.
It's hard to say, chinks are review bombing it. I think it's middle of the road. Hated by fans, barely noticed by normalgays, just another product in the endless line of new slop to consume.
I know the Dragon Demands covered how ridiculously over budget D&D spent on the show to the point it would have to make 3 times as popular as a major show just to break even.
Netflix are so moronic it's unreal. I'd be very surprised if they make a second season of this.
The antagonist's journey is more true to the book. That's something that the tencent version (severely) lacked.
Disclaimer: I'm only at episode 3
They ruined the best sci-fi protagonist and turned him into African American. Netflix gonna Netflix I guess
If you guys want to shitpost about politics at least do it properly, the show promotes the idea of a unified human government.
Other theories are just your mind rotten brain projecting his delusions.
>bro, killing small groups of civilians and children is okay because they're terrorists and cult members who disagree with our one world government
Not making this show seem like it's anything other than evil.
You're not making yourself look like anything less than a simpleton my guy.
>you're just not smart enough to understand why killing civilians is good
kys
Right just finished it. Overall I'd say it's mid, decent for those who read the book and want to see it live. There's too many plot changes, and the reveals and twists are definitely worse compared to the book.
I'm more interested to know what people who haven't read the book think.
Also I can't remember who tatianna is in the book?
>Also I can't remember who tatianna is in the book?
She's nobody. I think there was a similar enforcer type in the chink show, I stopped watching after a certain point.
In the shitflix show, her purpose is to be the new face of the ETO, it's too hard to have multiple characters, so she will be wallbreaking all the wallfacers as a stronk independant zealot woman who don't need no sophon.
Yeah its sad mate, ETO as a group is never named. The whole wallbreaker to wallfacer thing was cool. Why only 3 wallfacers also?
1989 tiananmen square massacre
winnie the pooh
taiwan formosa
its not that bad but yeah its pretty boring. its like cloverfield where the premise nearly makes up for the bumfrickery
>tfw tencent version has better cgi
Did we get any "Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet" moments of stupid?
Didn't you know you can know observe cosmic background radiation with naked eyes?
That's book two's content. But it's a point in the plot.
What cool sci fi stuff is in this? Summary sounds like people hiding and avoiding stuff.
What do the aliens look like?
From what I've looked up about the first book, it's scientists talking in rooms about very complex equations and human collaborators sabotaging human tech in order to soften us in a few hundred years for invasion. So there are no aliens this season.
We don't know and wont know if they stay true to the books.
The entire solar system collapses into 2D.
what the frick does that even mean?
that 2D chads won
I picture them looking like anthropomorphic man-o-war jellyfish
They’re supposed to be able to dehydrate and be easily rehydrated after long periods.
They’re also transparent and communicate through light signals and canonically they are incapable of lying (or rather the concept is foreign to them due to their anatomy and main form of communication)
Shill
Reminds me of the idiots who think pic related wasn't a false flag despite asteroids taking tens of thousands of years to move across the galaxy.
Read a random review of it while bored at work and they said it was better then the book because they removed all the sexist and other problematic bits. So I don't think I will bother watching.
>better then
Are you sure you can read?
I sure hope Netflix isn't paying you much if this is the only way you can think of shilling the show.
Link me to this homosexual review
I need to have a laugh
I’m actually staying at an Airbnb with Netflix right now and I was going to give it a watch until I saw that webm of the Hispanic and the Black person at the bar
It was in some scientific magazine somebody left at work. It wasn't that funny anyway, it was a mostly normal but not very informative review until the end where she just dumps that before finishing.
I just rolled my eyes and put the magazine down.
The idea humanity could threaten mutually assured destruction with the aliens is just straight up cope from the author. The aliens blow up our fleet and put us all into their bio-zoo.
I want to see the bit where the sky winks, the online game and the bit with the ship getting cut by the wires
Which episodes do I need to watch?
>I want to see the bit where the sky winks
Anon... They cut it.
It's there, it's just different than how it's handled in the book
The stars blinking was underwhelming, the game parts are serviceable but rused, but definitely watch episode 5 for nano wire kino.
well they at least included the ship part because it's fairly pivotal in the small scale plot of the first book
kek, nice dubs though
>Netflix adaptation of Sci-fi kino trilogy
Yeah no, I'll stick with the novels
Does Benedict Wong even get to do anything in this?
Not really. Da shi doesn't get butchered but he got neutered.
well he doesn't shoot a nuke
its so bad anons, so so bad
tencent show with skipping > book > minecraft version made by kids >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 body by netflix
its like they actually have to go out of their way to frick up the story and ideas here. What a fricking disaster
Just read books instead
>Just read books instead
>reading books
>2024
yes
Haven't read the books, how much did this season cover?
does it matter if you haven't read the books?
Covers book 1, part of book 2, and the intro of book 3.
cool thanks.
yes
So I guess nobody is going to bring up how moronic rolling up dehydrated people is? That was in the glorious books right?
How would you do it?
>So I guess nobody is going to bring up how moronic rolling up dehydrated people is?
It's an abstraction to make ayy physiology more palatable. For all we know they dehydrate into nice neat cubes for stacking.
The premise fundamentally is flawed on the simple premise that aliens with the advanced tech levels to travel to earth would simply steam roll us and turn us into bio-zoo pets. Like if they can already sabotage our tech in the 1960s, it’s more or less game over and we should simply submit to the aliens
>The premise fundamentally is flawed on the simple premise that aliens with the advanced tech levels to travel to earth would simply steam roll us and turn us into bio-zoo pets.
That's what happens though...
>moron didn't even read
IIRC in the book it takes the aliens a lot of time to develop to the point that they are so
They see Humanities relatively quick development and so they feel the need to stunt humanity so that when they arrive there are no chances of being defeated
There's no way the book explicitly says that, right?
The explanation in the show is pretty stupid. It's the opposite. The aliens would be even better than humans at advancing quickly, since they would've had very short window to get to their current tech level. Not to mention they would've done it multiple times already, so lots of practice, natural selection, etc.
Yeah, in fact they *should* think we are less beings. But not because we can lie or whatever the show was saying. Instead they should look down on us because we are like a spoiled rich kid. Blessed with a stable orbit, and it took us 100,000 uninterrupted years of progress to get into space. They probably did it in under 1000.
read it or watch it at least dummy, it'll take them 400 years to get to earth and they don't know shit about them. plenty of animals are stronger and faster than us but we won
>but we won
The hippo is actually the dominant species on this planet by many metrics.
don’t start with that hippo shit
>by many metrics.
name one
bite power
Exponential growth my friend. The singularity is coming in like 20 years. 200 years previous to napoleon was marching troops in lines
I agree with this anonymous poster. In case of an alien invasion we should surrender, it's the wisest option after all. Don't you agree fellow humans?
The funny thing about 3 Body Problem is that it won in the first year the Right Culture Warriors pulled this off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies
tl;dr some people didn't like that sci-fi was becoming too full of "The Message," nevermind that dozens of speculative fiction that all had their own messages. So they got together and mass voted by books they actually liked- leading to some authors to pull out once they realised just "how" they had been nominated. Wasn't technically vote rigging but def organised campaigning.
I'm guessing at least a fuel of these people were also anti-communist or anti-what-they-think-is-communism. Yet sometimes I wonder. If that hadn't happen, would 3BP still win and become what it is today. And did they end up delivering a victory to actual Communists?
So when does season 2 of the chink version come out?
I prefer the American version.
Should have ended with the second book.