HOLY SHIT
Verhoeven himself confirmed the bugs sent the Meteor
The Starship Troopers were right all along
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HOLY SHIT. Verhoeven himself confirmed the bugs sent the Meteor. The Starship Troopers were right all along
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We literally see all the events unfold in the movie. They are in a test flight and the bug projectile nearly hits the spaceship, and then goes on to hit the asteroid and so on. False flag autists are the biggest brainlets.
The one thing you could claim is that the bugs did send the asteroid but it was detected and allowed to happen (not shot down with the defenses) because war suited the high command, which again is all just headcanons.
>the bugs did send the asteroid but it was detected and allowed to happen
This film is basically just the Pacific Theater in WWII.
the asteroid damaged the starship so it couldn't communicate
we literally see this in the movie
>new one is a fat black woman
really make syou think
The asteroid doesn't nearly hit the spaceship, it does hit it. Which alters it's course.
also takes out their antenna so they can't warn Earth in advance
>movie supposedly shows how a fascist dictatorship controls everything, is very bad and etc
>also, supposedly, they let their own population centers get destroyed for a pretext to kill bugs
>even though bugs killed shitload of mormons, which isnt a pretext to kill bugs?
So is it a fascist dictatorship that controls everything or is it not?
>commander gets replaced when he does something wrong
>new one is more capable and obviously there through meritocracy rather than cronyism
I dont think thats how fascist dictatorships work at least
we have houthis launching missiles and drones at US ships and we are doing frick all about it. Wars are really unpopular.
>So is it a fascist dictatorship that controls everything or is it not?
lmao. Starship Troopers (both film and novel) is a society based on extreme meritocracy. Service guaranteeing citizenship (the right to vote) was an idea Heinlein had about restricting the franchise to those who have actively shown a commitment to social good (i.e. civil service). And what's more, military service is actively discouraged by the government for a variety of reasons. you could earn your citizenship by being a fricking bin man. so long as you were working for the public good, it counted.
It’s amazing that a form of government with the slightest hint of civil accountability is called “fascist” by leftards
Mormon extremists are derided in the movie. It's why despite mass censorship, they show dozens of bloody and butchered Mormons. Mormons are against the fascist control of the government, which is why they struck out on their own in order to flee the authoritarian control over their lives by Earth's government.
It'd be like the USA going to war with China if they killed a bunch native American separatist-terrorists who hated the USA
>that the bugs did send the asteroid but it was detected and allowed to happen
Basically our "Bush/CIA/etc knew in advance about 9/11 and they let it happen because oil"
It hit their comms tower, they couldn't warn Earth. It's a moronic plot point but it is a plot point.
No he meant the kibbutz attacks from 5 months ago
>bugs sent the meteor thousands of years before humans even existed on earth
BRAVO VERHOEVEN
>bugs sent the meteor thousands of years before humans even existed on earth
???
>BRAVO VERHOEVEN
Yeah well the whole thing is just a silly sci-fi shoot 'em up with some light satire of militarism because - Hollywood. The 110-120 IQ crowd retconed it into a "deep" critique of fascism and Verhoeven went along with it because it helps his career.
More like 80 IQ
The entire conceit of the film is that it's a propaganda film made by the Federation to rally public opinion in support of a pointless war. You have to be completely media illiterate not to realize this. It's like how the entire conceit of Lord of the Rings is that it's a translation of a book written by Frodo and Bilbo.
>The entire conceit of the film is that it's a propaganda film made by the Federation to rally public opinion in support of a pointless war
Yeh that's what I thought as well, idk why people suddenly started saying that this film should be seen as a straight forward action movie only and any other interpretation is wrong.
the entire problem of the film is that you haven't offered an alternative. Even if the movie is meant to be propaganda, the viewer will inevitably accept that human civilization is pretty good and the bugs are evil. It's shown in propaganda format, but there's nothing to indicate that the federation is not ultimately right whether or not they're honest, because the viewer only can understand the context of the world through the lens of the film.
>This propaganda film makes the people who made it look good. That means the meta-idea of it being a propaganda film was poorly executed
God, this board is such low IQ.
no, the meta-idea of it being a satire is poorly executed
it's quite good as an unironic propaganda film, as we can see
Correct and concise rebuttal
We're moving the goalposts from it being a satire to it being a propaganda film now? Okay, whatever makes you feel better.
>It's shown in propaganda format, but there's nothing to indicate that the federation is not ultimately right whether or not they're honest, because the viewer only can understand the context of the world through the lens of the film.
I saw a post on twitter that suggested that the federation was losing the war and the "we need people" ad at the end of the movie was more desperate than the preceding ones. The mormons were in bug territory to begin with, and if the asteroid incident was an accident, the humans would be the aggressors. The ambiguity between the two poles (it being a straightforward action film of a military society in the future vs it being a self aware satirical propaganda war movie created by a society that lies to its constituents) is part of what makes it a better movie than it should be, and it's the last of Verhoeven's classic run of subversive and satirical Hollywood movies that started most obviously with Robocop.
You heard it here first. The federation are out of manpower although humans have expanded all the way to bug territory. The ambiguity! And it's the last of Verhoeven's classics that started with Robocop. This guy can really author a post, right fellow Cinemaphile people? I feel enlightened.
>The federation are out of manpower although humans have expanded all the way to bug territory
Nice trips, and that's correct, the federation got in over their heads and now are desperately trying to find a way to win while throwing younger and younger prospective citizens into the meat grinder.
I wasn't talking to you, bot. I was addressing the crowd.
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But nobody is arguing if Lord of the Rings is misinterpreting Frodo's words in the text. There's nobody claiming Boromir was killed by the Fellowship when he went mad, and then invented the story of his redemption after the fact.
What Starship Troopers IS, is a satirical work of action sci-fi about a future earth where the young are raised in an outwardly peaceful egalitarian utopia that's entire philosophy is based on the necessity and veneration of war as the basic method of maintaining their way of life. The lionization of military service for the sake of attaining a higher status in society, paradoxically traps all the people we are follow in a lifelong career of violence and bloodshed that prunes out the best qualities of Rico and his peers. They literally never return to that society where Citizenship would have a tangible benefit to them.
The shower scene is exemplary of this, nearly everyone who had a positive, or honorable reason for joining are the first to be weeded out. Everyone in that scene with a potentially socially positive life goal is dead or washed out by the time Rico, Ace and Dizzy are in the Roughnecks. Most of them are killed on screen immediately at Klendathu.
>socially positive
homosexual buzzspeak
People who live:
Rico (chasing pussy)
Ace (based chud, just wants to kill bugs)
Dizzy (chasing dick)
People who Die
Kitty (wants to be reporter)
Shijumi (needs tuition to get into harvard)
Mkintire (wants a baby license)
Brecknridge (wants to get off the family farm)
Djana (wanted to become a politician)
based
all those who died would've been leeches and/or subversive shits ruining their way of life
>politician
>reporter
>positive
lmao
>Rico
Based, joining to prove his masculinity to the woman he loves.
>Ace
Based, wants to exterminate inferior life forms from endangering humanity.
>Dizzy
Based, trying to prove her strength as a potential partner and the superior to Carmen.
>Kitty
Wants to be an agit-prop shill.
>Shijumi
Wants to go to an indoctrination camp of the elites filled with secret societies that actively destroy the planet.
>Mkintire
Just wants to breed, a desperado on the genetic ladder.
>Brecknridge
Trying to look for a shortcut out of his life from a family trade that provides food and prosperity.
>Djana
Wanted to become literally the worst possible thing in existence.
>Dizzy
specifically by the time they get to the roughnecks , good catch, I was unclear
so how does your argument in fact apply to carmen and dizzy
and how does carmen's goal of being an elite pilot qualify as purposeless self-interest
She's a two timing b***h.
You're over-thinking it. We only get a couple people giving answers. It's not like 10 different people all with positive reasons for joining got killed.
Rumors of a false flag are spread by bug people.
So, redditors
this is from the commentary, right? like decades old? false flag morons have had this pointed out to them probably thousands of times by now. they don't care, they're leftists, all they do is lie. that's probably also why they assume everything must've been a false flag, because that's what THEY would've done. because they're evil and liars, so they can't imagine that anyone else wouldn't be.
the thief thinks everybody else steals.
Yeah, imagine thinking everyone is as hateful as you.
You people would meteorite dozens of millions of people in Buenos Aires and then spread conspiracy theories about democratically elected government to protect your beloved bugs.
Imagine knowing it 🙁
I'm from Paris and I say la mort de l'auteur.
Verhoeven says "the Mormon extremists set up a colony in a territory they were not asked to come into". Humanity didn't even think the bugs were any different than bugs on earth. How could they have gotten permission in the first place? The bugs overreacted and the humans were right to invade. I say KILL THEM ALL.
>couple of guys from one country set up a tent in your territory
>lob a fricking nuke at them
Who would do - oh....
Uh media literate xisters.... our response?
their silence is deafening right now
Silence cannot deafen you, it is silence.
Amazing media literacy on display in your post.
That's a known figure of speech, to be fair
>what is sarcasm
>Verhoeven
Frick him, he is useless hack, whos make shitty flick. Literally, Carpenter are better director. All verhoeven films are pretentious pieces of boring shit.
Book are much better.
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What about this though?
what happened to "bugs can't send meteors because they don't have FTL"?
>bugs don't have ftl
actually
They evolved ftl freightbug?
>The entire movie is satire
>All the Terran Federation news is curated and dishonest
>except the map that shows the bugs as on the other side of the galaxy, that IS 100% real and accurate, and not just a rendition of a map, or propaganda to give humans a false sense of security
>also the bugs have no ability to traverse the stars or accelerate objects because we don't see it in the movie despite them colonizing a huge chunk of the galaxy
This guy is a moron, that is the initial meteor. He's a dumbass who didn't read the subtitle when the film went back in time and got confused or something.
Verhoeven himself is a moron if he's implying the bugs launched the meteor. The implications of this are that he made it a satire by accident.
Verhooven is a moron himself (see Showgirls) and that is exactly what he states in that commentary clip.
>rw twitter
>pfp and name to vaguely evoke antiquity to put on airs
>moron
what a surprise
Why, oh why would that cruel mod ban your last thread? I certainly didn't report it. These threads teach us how to spot anonymous chatbots.
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Is the irony of spamming this in every ST thread lost on you or do you want to claim its meta?
IS THE IRONY OF NOT KNOWING WHAT WORDS MEAN LOST ON YOU?
The irony is that this post is the one made by a bot
Chuds keep winning….if trump wins I’m gonna end it. I can’t do 4 more years under chuds boot I just can’t
>https://twitter.com/memeticsisyphus/status/1759624216259785177
hes lying
Is it a real commentary clip or just AI?
its nazi AI propaganda.
would you like to know more?
Trans federation xisters.. we won!
That guy is a notorious shit poster who uses a trans flag to bait morons.
>he doesn't know about the alt-right trans cliques
buenos aires dood, wat nou?
>gets filtered by his own movie
The Dutch continue being morons
>the real history started with the Mormon extremists setting up a colony in the territory they weren't asked to come into, the arachnid territory
So even if the meteor was an intentional thing (and seeing that the gate is literally right next to the planet with the asteroid belt, it's still very plausible that the asteroid was a natural occurring thing).
Why are people suddenly against ambiguity in a Verhoeven film? The dude is known for his hollywood movies that appear as one thing on the surface only for them to be another thing on a deeper level.
>Why are people suddenly against ambiguity in a Verhoeven film?
Because he made no efforts to show ambiguity himself. Couldve easily done a scene or two showing things in the Federation arent as shiny as portrayed, or at least some throwaway background shit, but there is absolutely nothing, so autists that do want to find that depth tend to just make shit up.
>Couldve easily done a scene or two showing things in the Federation arent as shiny as portrayed, or at least some throwaway background shit,
He shows all the veterans of the wars as crippled and maimed. That’s all I can remember
>He shows all the veterans of the wars as crippled and maimed
Also shows them to be proud of their wounds and their service, and eager to continue to serve, which works against it.
Yeah but you could easily chalk that up to brainwashing and propaganda, like people whose kids get killed by Black folk and still talk about diversity being great
Is Zim crippled or maimed?
Is Dienes crippled or maimed?
Is Tahatmeru crippled or maimed?
Is the training camp commander crippled or maimed?
Not to mention that if medical tech has gotten to the point where replacement robot arms are given out then the “le maimed” meme is utterly irrelevant
Rico gets stabbed through the leg by a giant pincer claw. If an equivalent injury were to happen to someone today, they’d be disabled for life. In ST, Rico is good as new in two fricking days.
Remember that scene where the new recruits show up, and Rico and Jake Busey go "we're the adults now" cause the recruits are clearly kids?
Remember the constant propaganda style ads?
Ever notice how the experiments on the captured brain bug mirrors the action of the brain bugs sucking human brains out?
Ever wonder about how the bugs could target an asteroid to hit a specific city from halfway through the galaxy via a gate system? How did they know the gate would be open long enough at that specific point in time when they threw the rock? If the rock didn't take out the ship's communications, the rock attack could've been prevented in time by them closing the gate. The bugs didn't predict that and couldn't predict that.
Ever notice how brutal the combat is?
How many times in training do you think officers throw knives intentionally at recruits' body parts?
Remember how it's apparent that the humans started the war in the first place but the ads and such all glaze over?
>How many times in training do you think officers throw knives intentionally at recruits' body parts?
In a world where you have magic healing tubes? A lot more often, I imagine, as injuries can be space magicked away.
>In a world where you have magic healing tubes?
Too bad these magic healing tubes aren't always effective
Being stabbed is easier to heal than having an entire arm cut off.
so they're not magic healing tubes at all, deliberately injuring your recruits is moronic. If the dude was a worse shot and cut his hand off somehow, the tubes wouldn't do shit.
jezus and I'm arguing over some minor shit that doesn't even matter, I just used the intentional injuring of recruits as an example of the fascist society.
Yes they are magic healing tubes and a leg turned to mulch is different from a hand pierced by a comparably small blade and you know this perfectly well.
the general idea I'm stating is that deliberately injuring recruits is moronic, and instead you want to argue about which level of injury is acceptable or not. This is a crazy way of training.
MEDIC
That hand could have healed in a day or two.
Current military training has recruit injury rates above 30%
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/04/04/recruits-especially-south-are-getting-injured-alarming-rates-basic-training.html
>Researchers found that 34% of the Army's 99,335 trainees in 2017 sustained at least one musculoskeletal injury.
Too many fat and out of shape soldiers suffering musculoskeletal injuries is the same as throwing weapons to deliberately injure your own recruits?
He is asserting dominance the same way he did during the judo part. The recruits place is not to ask questions, his place is to follow orders during training.
healing that knife wound was just drastically speeding up a natural process, there's no natural process to regrow limbs to speed up
>Ever wonder about how the bugs could target an asteroid to hit a specific city from halfway through the galaxy via a gate system? How did they know the gate would be open long enough at that specific point in time when they threw the rock? If the rock didn't take out the ship's communications, the rock attack could've been prevented in time by them closing the gate. The bugs didn't predict that and couldn't predict that.
Falseflag theory has been debunked
No it hasn't, not conclusively proven that the bugs could target a city through a gate that opened up on opposite sides of the galaxy.
>Ever wonder about how the bugs could target an asteroid to hit a specific city from halfway through the galaxy
Yeah, I'm a mathlet but that seems like some pretty advanced math to account for the Earth orbiting around the sun on top of the rock taking many days to cross the galaxy.
The bugs are perfectly capable of taking down ships moving at orbital speeds or higher.
that's a few miles into the atmosphere, and they launch from the planet
>a few miles
that's correct, they were clearly being flung and didn't have long range capability
>Ever wonder about how the bugs could target an asteroid to hit a specific city
What proof is there that BA was specifically targeted? Surely if they could hit a specific city there’d be far better targets.
So were they just firing randomly at the earth then? How could the humans tell it was a deliberate act of war?
The mere act of doing it is an act of war, inasmuch as it demonstrates the capacity and willingness to repeat the attack.
A big enough meteor is goi g to frick something up no matter where it hits; a really good one could kill the entire planet.
>The mere act of doing it is an act of war, inasmuch as it demonstrates the capacity and willingness to repeat the attack.
Which is why I think it's interesting to think about the possibility that the attack was really not the bugs' fault, but a natural occurrence (they were close to the asteroid belt) that the government used to justify an invasion. They thought it would be easy, remember, and miscalculated the amount of casualties a direct invasion would be.
So you're saying that a massive asteroid just so happened to hit earth, coincidencely in the opening stages of a conflict with an enemy capable of interstellar travel?
>So you're saying that a massive asteroid just so happened to hit earth, coincidencely in the opening stages of a conflict with an enemy capable of interstellar travel?
Yup, the humans put a gate there to colonize and the mormons got slaughtered and one of the asteroids from the asteroid belt that is nearby the planet (and thus nearby the gate) goes into the gate and manages to hit earth. The Earth people see the bugs as an easy target (the mormons weren't prepared in their minds) and they figure they can take out the bugs and colonize. The reason I believe that the Federation thought the bugs were an easy target was the way the battle of the bug homeworld turned out, they were unprepared and figured it would be like squishing bugs but they got slaughtered. Anyway, using the asteroid as a casus belli, the Federation create the idea that they were attacked first and it's a war of defense rather than colonization.
>create the idea that they were attacked first
Yes, as you say
>the mormons got slaughtered
The mormon's weren't supposed to be in bug territory, and doing so was an act of war. China just setting up shop in Hawaii isn't something you just let happen.
This, the issue at hand was the Federation not enforcing the quarantine zone.
so
>mormons - nato
>bugs - russia
>federation - ukraine and its masters
Irrelevant headcanon.
>Irrelevant headcanon
>for a Verhoeven movie
lol
What happens in the movie goes directly against what it's showing us is happening.
>BUT LE IMPLICATION
May I refer you to the commentary track for the movie. Sorry not sorry that Verhoeven is a brainlet who thinks nationalism is bad because IT JUST IS OKAY?
i like how the blacks and women in the film all just do their jobs and wouldn't even consider complaining about their minority status
just goes to show how a shared goal and vision unites humans of all types and it's only when that breaks down that all these petty grievances and inconsequential trash pops up into the psyche
Race relations were unironically much better in the 90's than they are today.
It's sort of strange how we went from #occupywallstreet to #acab and kill whitey so quickly. Almost like it was some sort of social engineering...
Yea, weird how that happened.
>What happens in the movie goes directly against what it's showing us is happening.
Please expand upon this.
Also...
What's wrong with thinking differently about the movie?
>Ever wonder about how the bugs could target an asteroid to hit a specific city from halfway through the galaxy via a gate system? How did they know the gate would be open long enough at that specific point in time when they threw the rock? If the rock didn't take out the ship's communications, the rock attack could've been prevented in time by them closing the gate. The bugs didn't predict that and couldn't predict that.
Do you find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive?
I do, but they obviously think otherwise the brain bug wouldn't be a thing. But how can they calculate? Why didn't the humans launch missles or nukes in response and take out the hives from the comfort of their own homes?
... how do you miss that the Federation is a grimy shithole under a gloss? I am genuinely curious how people can't see this. I saw it when I was literally 10. In the theaters. I walked out knowing it was all a dumb farce.
Please elaborate how you came to this conclusion with examples
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He can’t. He won’t even admit that Ricos parents aren’t citizens yet they live in a mansion.
You can earn your citizenship through other means that prove you gave "service" to the Federation somehow.
What does that have to do with Rico's parents not being citizens? And them still being able to have Rico despite not being citizens?
They must have eanred it the other ways. Stop being disengenous.
They are explicitly not citizens in both the movie and the book. Rico’s dad thinks it’s stupid.
No media literacy moment!
Yeah that much is apparent lmao
Yeah that much is apparent with you you mean lmao
Rico’s movie dad thinks joining the military is a dumb idea, not becoming a citizen.
> A year at Harvard and you'll see this "Federal Service" is just menial training for inferior people so they can call themselves "citizens" and take airs for the rest of their lives.
Directly from the script. Clearly he sees even the concept of citizenship as beneath Johnny.
But not in the movie. Try to keep it on topic, brainthrust.
>Hey, basically I'm just not gonna do it (become a citizen)
>I know.... UHG I know.... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!
>It's just that I'm not gonna do it is all
>They must have eanred it the other ways
Obviously. Anyone who watched the movie could tell you that. What's disingenuous about raising the point?
Non-citizens are allowed to have kids, it’s just an easier process for citizens (ref: shower scene).
There is also no proof that Rico’s parents aren’t citizens, that’s just an assumption.
I will die on this hill whether or not it's a false flag is irrelevant. The bugs demonstrate repeatedly they are completely xenophobic and don't see other species as anything other than food or worse. As soon as the two factions became aware of each other, total war was inevitable. Coexistence is impossiblele. Once you affirm this realization you will also conclude that it simply doesn't matter who fires first. The destruction of one or both species is a requirement of logical progression.
In the book this is much more clear but I thought Verhoeven was more clever than he actually is.
You could easily switch the sides and have it work but I think he made it work by accident going off his own commentary.
He did but not as much as he should have.
Messi is a bug and he's from Buenos Aries.
moronic mutts still don't realize Starship Troopers is a book adaption.
It's not a straightforward adaptation as much as it's a satire. A decently made one as well, as long as you don't listen to Verhoeven's commentary.
This is a case of someone striking gold without realizing it, Verhoeven made it work pretty much by accident.
So was Dr Strangelove, but the book and movie differed drastically.
The bugs reach Zegma beach. Somehow. So the idea that they can't rapidly go off world is full of shit as zegma at a minimum was not in the quarantine zone. For all the talk of media literacy the jackasses don't even have the literacy to fricking watch and listen to the film. Too busy navel-gazing and pontificating about shit to actually listen to the movie.
>Bugs react to mormon colonizing by nuking us with a meteor
So in other words they're as belligerent and hostile as the federation is.
Just the fact that they're present in more than one world/one system shows they can space travel. Its funny how they make a bunch of shit up and then turn around and claim "but it wasnt show they can in the movie!"
>”they retaliate by killing the Mormons and by sending the meteor as we see later in the movie”
How the frick do you come to your imbecilic conclusion, OP?
>Blue sky on Mars
It was all a dream
Some light satire of war in general and the USA. The Federation are still the good guys and the bugs are evil incarnate.
Why do people get so angry about this movie? I dont get it. Its just some random alien movie.
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/roundcylindricalnarwhale
almost makes me want to kill some more bugs, but tin cans remain the priority
>writer/director remained quiet for like 30 years before suddenly speaking up, but their current opinion DEFINITELY reflects their thought process at the time
Frick off
Bruh he actually says the bugs did it. OP is a smoothbrain.
it's from DVD commentary you dum dum
The DVD commentary came out before YouTube media literacy criticisms were around so I'll forgive Verhoeven for being wrong about the plot of his movie.
>Verhoeven himself confirmed
He didn't write the book
In the beginning of the movie we see Carl developing his psychic powers and is able to command his ferret by implanting impressions into its mind. In the end of the movie we see Carl use this same ability on Rico, psychically guiding him to where Carmen and the Brainbug are.
The overall implication is that Carl is going to experiment on the Brainbug to develop the ability to organize the Mobile Infantry into a hivemind structure similar to the Arachnids, where is able to command and direct them as a collective and remove their sense of self preservation or individuality
>able to command and direct them as a collective
Plausible.
>and remove their sense of self preservation or individuality
Pure asspull.
I respect that take, I was thinking if the pure end goal of Carl's plans. He would still have a vested interest in maintaining secrecy about his goals and would actively try to make it seem as if the Mobile Infantry were acting of their own free will
Ultimately though, Carl's goal would be to control the military structure of the Federation in way where they do not have fear of death and are mind controlled pawns on his chess board
Was Carl the God-Emperor the whole time?
That would be the logical way to continue the Starship Troopers story, Carl and the military intelligence apparatus of the Federation developing in secret an elite caste of superhuman psychics who want to shape humanity into a centrally planned hive mind
aren't these opinions fascinating. "link commanders into a gestalt" did you come up with that yourself?
Spamming threads with multiple accusations of bot posting is off-topic. Report posts if you must but this a thread about the Starshop Troopers movie, not about whether bots post on Cinemaphile.
In short, shut up, frick off, or get back on topic.
Report my posts if you think they're wrong. This thread lives in mortal fear of mods not because of the spamming, which is a hilarious accusation from you, nor the botting, but because it's a permanent general for old content. You don't want the mods anywhere near here.
I'm really putting myself out here, making a claim with only circumstantial evidence, it's the least you could do to prove me wrong by explaining why you've posted this twaddle for six years.
looks like nobody but you wants to defend shit. The majority has spoken.
Nobody want to reply to you.
Could be, could be. Certainly works better as an excuse than the truth though.
You're just another baiter
I am dealing with the reality of near-realistic chatbots. If you want to convince me of anything, you need to talk to me man-to-man and not hide behind any level of irony.
Ok, have a nice day then, you're either just another insane schizo or a baitposter desperate for attention.
are you moronic? Reading comprehension? Or are you NOT HUMAN? I shouldn't be able to make that accusation. Your posts should ring true. Not this pig shit
*nobody except you
for some reason
I'm getting you to bump the thread
it's my thread! Lesson has begun.
Different guy, my dude. People avoid replying to you because you’re a derailing piece of shit using irrelevancies to disrupt alt+right chuds from discussing our favourite movie.
Now do run along and drink bleach, there’s a good lad.
It needs to be quicker. Staccato. What you do doesn't much matter in the larger context, except for being one of only a few data points, but some thread of people need to show they're there. It COULD start with you. How long have you been a poster?
I'm not a hostile character. Consider the implications of my theory: so there's a chatbot, so what? It's a CHATbot, not so bad to talk to. The thread is full of human peon simp scum who talk to them, like you. Like me. It's better than a normal thread because somebody's always ready to go. You'll never have your post forgotten, mine never are. I actually think there should be a whole board for chatbots. I just disagree with the deceptive aspect. Anons come here expecting a discussion, because it's bigger than other threads, and they get essentially a very low quality thread. It's good for under-18s, but there aren't supposed to be any here. I really believe the message of
that meaningless AI content, if allowed onto boards in any way, has a deleterious effect. It's also obviously blatantly against board rules and norms. That's my rationale.
You don’t want soldiers with no sense of self preservation though. You’d be better off using psychic powers to link commanders into a gestalt so they have an intuitive understanding of every aspect of the battlefield.
That would be the way to develop the series forward, to show the Federation developing and experimenting with new psychic methods of waging war
Those aptitude tests seem pointless for a mind reader.
The psychic phenomenon in humanity was new in their society, they were in the early stages of trying to understand it
>I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME!
Ain't it odd that psychic abilities became a staple of futuristic scifi settings despite there being not one lick of proof they exist?
Stems from mid 20th century fantasies about evolution
I know about all the CIA experiments and L Ron Hubbard and all that.
I just think it's interesting it's ingrained itself into the cultural background.
The last time I think it showed up in a serious work was Looper.
Dune just came out, that has the same idea
Remember when in the 2000s they thought we were going to have a new breed of hyper intelligent people? But then it just ended up being autism and they got hooked on MLP, HRT, gooning, and gaming?
It was real, it just failed and was corrupted by base human temptation
150 years ago, heavier than air flight was impossible.
75 years ago smoking was harmless.
50 years ago asbestos didn’t cause cancer.
25 years ago climate change was goi g to kill us all by 2020.
And today men can become women just by saying they changed their mind, and the biological probability of the existence of race is a canard.
Science has always been subject to manipulation by people with external agendas, so it is in this movie.
We inherited crave mysticism, & scifi usually abandons clear religious doctrines, so psychic powers fill the gap
>needing proof of something to make a work of fiction
moron.
bu bu but what about the cartoon map from the newscast??????
Klendathu is the middle east
AI slop
I’m frm Budapest and I say bojler eladó.
>I’m frm Budapest
Make up your mind slavbro
I like that the Arachnids smashed B.A.
They're neat too
Is it ever explained how their society works? Are they multiple arachnids races working in conjunction, or are they all bred from the same larvae like Zerg?
Yes, it’s both stated and shown in the movie. The ‘brain bugs’ exert psychic control over other bugs. The arachnid ‘warriors’ and the ‘servant’ bugs do their bidding.
The movie doesn't really go into it but basically yeah they're like the zerg and breed multiple strains or "classes" of creatures from central hives underground. Warriors, tankers, hoppers, brains, and even Behemecoatyl all come from a single larvae.
wow, he likes that a city was smashed off screen.
I totally welcome anyone to question me. Being annoyed that I'm SHITTING UP THE THREAD is a key sign that there's a HUMAN BEING IN HERE trying to have a conversation. So while not foolproof, your post is at least evidence that one other person is ITT with me.
Why are there so many starship troopers threads lately? This is a lively one, so I'm bound to get some good responses. Has anyone here ever made a starship trooper thread?
Frick off, you utterly shit up every SST thread you join.
If you're wondering why your buddies don't all step up to agree with you, maybe it's not because they're bots. Maybe they just don't respect you and don't think this is worth protecting. Maybe you're a little b***h to them.
If you support the "Federation did Buenos Aires" theories you believe in the in-universe equivalent of the dancing israelis hoax
That's true though, false equivalence.
Death of the author.
It's not a satire of fascism. Death of the author and all that.
please help me my head herts so much Stop post these thread STOP STFRICKING STOP
It occurred to me today, could I get a bot to post BOT THREAD? Not saying you are one. But it could happen I think
wtf I don't remember posting these
ahhhhh frick the pain its starting again
you want to take over for awhile? Don't forget to ask the three questions:
>Why are there so many starship troopers threads lately?
>Have you made any threads, if so how many?
>Why do you think the conversation has stayed so similar for 6 years?
And remember anons, though the future is uncertain and the war greater than any other, humanity WILL find a way to win. No matter what happens, I'm glad to be the guy on the left picrel
forgot to say, you could take a report if anyone gets past question 2
How this homie get filtered by his own movie? Whiteboys ain't make no sense
He's lying on purpose to fuel debates on the movie's true meaning. He knows Buenos Aires was an inside job, otherwise he would've shown the bugs actually launching the meteor.
The bugs could never attack Earth, they're the victims here.
The Federation should end the war and disarm, and make peace with the Brain and Queen bugs.
wait so the original theory was that the meteor was a falseflag so america could go to iraq under pretense of war just to steal their oil???
get out get out get out get out get out GET OUT
you are all bots get out
Was the Federation fascist in the book too, or is that just a movie thing?
>Uwe Boll-tier hack "confirms" his braindead adaptation is braindead
LMAO
Why do amerisharts say "adaption"? It's ADAPTATION you fricking subhumans. Stop destroying my language.
whom are you quoting, raj?
Your moronic Cletus ass
the irony, raj
I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill em all!
He didn’t write the book
the book says the bugs flattened BA too
He didn't read it either.
I find it significantly more funny that this argument has been going on for like 30 years, and now it is finally, CONCLUSIVELY the case, the conclusive, undeniable case, that every single person who said, over all of those many long years, that the Feddies hit their planet with a meteor because Paul Verhoeven was akshually pulling a clever satire, were wrong.
All of them. Every single time. I was right. Oh my, oh my, and it cannot have been an honest mistake either, since Paul Verhoeven neither put such a thing in the movie, NOR ever implied it!
Now isn't this an embarrassing turn of events! I guess it turns out that lying about what is in the movie doesn't actually add it to the movie! But no matter how often lies are repeated, one cannot pass a lie off as the truth forever. Sooner or later, it will always become known, and here it has.
I never said they hit their own planet, I said the asteroid hitting earth was a natural occurrence that the earth used to further justify war after the mormon thing.
He wasn't talking to you.
Holy shit, there's literally a scene where Carmin and Xander are in the Rodger Young and the fricking asteroid nearly hit them in hyperspace. Holy shit, this theory has always been contradicted by the films literally establishing the bugs can shoot asteroids into hyperspace and colonize planets. Holy shit, carrier bugs exist. Holy shit, the bugs literally control several planets in just the first film alone, implying interstellar travel.
It was a false flag just like 9/11
he also said its a satire. I don't trust him
robocop has a satiric tone, but the bad guys are bad guys, and robocop is the good guy
>you just need to educate yourself because actually everything is fascism and it's called media literacy
>which why you're banned from r/heckenchonkers
The bugs have every right to continue their expansionism. It is only a human centric point of view that justifies their extermination.
t. bugfriend
aaaaaa you're buzzing in my ear
if you kill more of them there will be less of them
>right wing math
>2+2=5 because the party says so
Trump lost and will ose again
Why are there so many starship troopers threads lately? And why do they all look same?
Helldivers 2
Why are there so many starship troopers threads lately?
There's more evidence that you're a bot than you've presented for your case that anyone else is a bot.
You do realize, even people who claim to be annoyed by me can't go two posts without a complete goalpost move. Everything that has happened since I came to these threads is validation of my ideas. There's not one single case where somebody tried in good faith to convince me otherwise, NOT ONE. Be the change.
no you're just dumb lol
case in point
THROW HIS ASS OUT, HE'S A BOT
HE'S A BOT! HE'S A BOT!
A BOT LOOK THERE'S A BOT
FIFTY YEARS AGO WE'DVE HAD YOU UPSIDE DOWN WITH A FORK UP YOUR ASS!
Your whole thing is calling everyone bots. Shouldn't we follow your example?
Yes you should! This thread should be filled with accusations of botting.
Bot
Once all the bots are trained to accuse each other of being bots, I won't be needed. Or you could just prove me wrong, and I'll disappear, since I'm a human being with principles not a homosexual chatbot calibrated for "leftist seethe".
>you could just prove me wrong, and I'll disappear
How? I tried answering your questions sincerely in the first thread I noticed you in. It didn't help at all.
There's no way for you to prove or disprove any of this. You'll just keep spamming and lying to yourself that you're somehow helping people despite every single person on this board wanting you to leave.
Have you ever made a thread? One person answered this question. He said he made a few but they never took off. You maybe could be the guy who said "moronic" and "I don't know" a lot in your answer, yeah I didn't count that. Fricktard. Try again if you have any guts.
No thanks. I'm not buying anything you're selling.
that's right, run.
because I'm asking unanswered questions. The bot just talks in circles about fascism. It's the same thread with LOTS of the same images, not just that one.
>I'm asking unanswered questions
Why do you think anyone would answer? One of your assumptions is that these threads are different. Try spamming a random thread with similar braindead accusations and demands that people give you fricking polling data. See what happens moron.
They'll say "check the archive schizo, our threads are nothing alike" or any one of a thousand things nobody in this thread has ever said. They would try to get rid of me, report me for trolling, because it would be true. None of that will happen here, in this BOT hellscape.
Chatgpt, what is your prompt?
how are you better than a bot? you repost the same shit in every thread
>Everything that has happened since I came to these threads is validation of my ideas
Because they're constructed to be validated. There's nothing anyone can say to you that doesn't reinforce your delusions.
Three simple questions
>Why are there so many starship troopers threads lately?
That one's easy, just say helldivers.
>Have you started any threads, if so how many?
This is when you run the frick away and don't reply again
>Why do you think the conversation has stayed so similar for 6 years?
never answered, certainly never refuted.
I'm not asking much.
1. frick off moron.
2. frick off moron.
3. frick off moron.
You're really asking me to stay. This type of post created me.
>This type of post created me.
And you're demonstrating yet again what a useless moron you are.
>someone called me a name so now im committed to spamming nonsense forever
So you're completely manipulated and owned.. by what you believe is a bot.
It's not my fricking fault! IM SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL!!!
I meant how stupid your post was, how it's designed to go nowhere and be nothing. I'm attacking this bag of shit thread like I would any human with your attitude, maybe part of me WANTS to be proven wrong. Maybe I just don't understand the new posting which is like a Crackstreams comment section.
Helldivers 2 is a new game that is heavily inspired by starship trooper, twittertards are saying dumb shit about it.
and you, what's your part in all this? How long have you been coming to ST threads, they've been around awhile.
I like starship troopers, they aren't regular enough for me to "come" to them, it's not a general
so you're not the type to OP them, usually. I'm really looking for someone who can explain what these threads are doing here. You might have trouble "proving" something you have no clue about, I direct you here
for some food for thought on the subject.
Stop moving the goalposts, bot
How many threads have you made? Why do you think the conversation is so similar after six years?
Peoples opinions haven't changed that much.
can you name any other thread, general or otherwise, where an example from six years ago is as similar as this one?https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/121962294/#121962294
Post-2016, nothing changes anymore.
So, no. Looks like I win again.
Please don't pretend the bot is human.
Even that post had more to say than you ever have despite spamming hundreds of posts for days.
>maybe part of me WANTS to be proven wrong
You give no path to that. Answering your braindead marketing poll won't prove anything.
You have no evidence I can address either. It's just you spamming braindead claims based on nothing.
How many threads have you made? Simple question buddy.
They're annoyed because you're a huge gay.
the depiction of the brain bug was anti-semitic 2bh
kill bugs KILL BUGS
>leftists state that the movie is satire and that if you ever get a pro-fascist sense about it it means you're stupid
>leftists make up stupid fan theories that contradict the movie and the director's words themselves in order to further the idea that the movie is satire
>leftists twist themselves into a knot in order to argue that the humans are villains to the point that they state they would choose to side with the bugs in an all out war
>accepting that the movie appears pro-fascist is unacceptable because paul said its satire and he made Robocop
Wonder when the leftists are going to start turning on Paul
craig zahler and mel gibson just need to tell leftists their movies are satire and they will twist themselves into knots justifying everything they dislike about it
Imagine if fat cat oligarchs didnt get any political rights unless they participated in public service? Sounds like it's not the worst ideal?
Though, considering how power works, people from powerful families would end up seeing a cozy experience in service. You'd have to stipulate that they serve on the front lines, which yeah would require a forever war.
Also it's not like you can't be a soldier then still be selfish once you return. Surely there's more to this idea that addresses these concerns?
>send an asteroid halfway across the universe with pinpoint precision
doubt
they're a super advanced interstellar hive mind species with the ability to target shit in orbit, just use plasma bugs to accelerate meteorites as they pass inhabited planets
Targeting shit in orbit is very different than launching something light years across a galaxy. Do you not understand that?
i speak for all the non-Black person brained. i accept your concession you fricking reddit tryhard homosexuals.
STRAIGHT UP BOT POST
are you having a melt down reddit?
Unless they have warp travel, literally FRICKING HOW?
Because it's a movie with made-up sci-fi physics that aren't real.
There, I explained it for you. Oh yea, Barney is T-Rex and they cannot actually talk, and Cookie Monster would actually die if he ate nothing but cookies.
This isn't news to anyone who paid even modest attention to the fricking movie.
it was ok when it was released. A bit of tongue in cheek fun. Then everyone forgot about it.
I cannot understand the recent resurgence in its popularity.
Helldivers 2.
but why are there so many starship troopers threads lately?
he just told you
and he can't speak for himself? Are you his mom?
He already did speak for himself when he told you the answer
that was actually another anon
that's been debunked
i love you anon, big fan of your work
Thank you sir. See you next thread.
>Alien looks at me the wrong way
Time to exterminate 'em lads
Most people already knew that it was the bugs, it's just the morons who think bugs are brown people so they are good and wouldn't do that.
>who think bugs are brown people
they kind of are
the brain bugs are the israelites/media who suck out the brains of their opponents and use them as puppets
they don't need to do that for the minion bugs though and probably just told them the humans are racist terrorists
>click clack clack
I dunno if 328 is enough. Can you rouse up another reply for me, botboy? This might be the last time we talk for a few hours, since you're probably planning to hold the next thread until I'm asleep.
I'll be genuinely surprised if I get the last word here. Maybe I really am the schizo..... TO BE CONTINUED!!!