Yeah, the human spirit of driving without your seat belt on. Except your lack of a seat belt is a heart condition, and what you're driving is a loaded buss. If there's a moral framework that doesn't label that as evil then it's an incomplete one.
I understand this criticism but I think the best message to take away from the movie is that scientific determinism for this hypothetical society is wrong because it is factually wrong: the experts couldn't believe Vincent could perform a that level at Gattaca, the doctor's predicted he'd die of a heart attack before he even left space.
So if they're wrong about Vincent's intelligence and life expectancy, this society is arrogantly overconfident in their scientific predictions and ruining people's lives because of it.
But it's just made up bullshit movie magic that lets him get away with that. They're factually wrong about vincent because he's the protagonist of the movie but they're right 99% of the time otherwise because serious medical complications are not overcome by "wanting it bad enough". I say this as a type one diabetic, testing my blood 8 times a day and injecting insulin at least 4 times a day, and still receiving permanent nerve damage from my every little mistake, it is my single biggest problem in life and i would give anything to not have this disease. To then see a movie where people want fake disablities so they're not pressured to succeed like the swimmer guy, to see people with disabilities just magically not have them when the plot demands it, it's fricking bullshit. It's not a good movie, it's drivel. Literally "protagonist is locked in a car trunk and the car goes off a cliff but somehow next episode he secretly escaped the trunk just in time and is still alive" tier.
Did he have disabilities? He was predicted to have these disabilities but ended up only having eye problems? His heart wasn't the best but still bang average or am i misremembering the movie?
11 months ago
Anonymous
He almost dies running on the treadmill at the gattaca training facility and even has a fake heartbeat to fool the scientists trying to assess his level of fitness. He never beats his brother at swimming until he puts in an explicitly suicidal effort after he's basically caught at the end and the brother is just a normal guy and even a smoker.
He then gets away with everything and survives the launch no problem because... reasons.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I assumed the treadmill incident was due to pressure from the cops poking around and him realizing they were on to him rather than his heart condition
11 months ago
Anonymous
bump
11 months ago
Anonymous
But he still prepared the fake heartbeat because he knew ahead of time he couldn't compete with the gattaca types. He knew the scientists measuring the activity would instantly see his defect and prepared for it the same way he prepared to leave fake eyelashes around for people to find. I also haven't watched the movie in 12+ years but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this.
I never masked or got the vaxx and infected everyone with covid. The triumph of freedom over basedcuck tyranny. 🙂 I'm just like Ethan Hawke in GATTACA. 🙂
I've been telling people about it for more than 5 years now and still the only other soul I know whose seen it is my gf (who I forced into watching it with me). She really liked it though so it's better than nothing.
lower class white people lying to doctors, colleges, and their jobs about thier dna and physiology so that they get preferrential treatment is the deepest metaphor of now in any movie ever
Hawke was in the wrong btw.
forgot to mention that i'm trans btw 🙂
Cope. He is the embodiment of the human spirit triumphing over man-made horrors.
Yeah, the human spirit of driving without your seat belt on. Except your lack of a seat belt is a heart condition, and what you're driving is a loaded buss. If there's a moral framework that doesn't label that as evil then it's an incomplete one.
I understand this criticism but I think the best message to take away from the movie is that scientific determinism for this hypothetical society is wrong because it is factually wrong: the experts couldn't believe Vincent could perform a that level at Gattaca, the doctor's predicted he'd die of a heart attack before he even left space.
So if they're wrong about Vincent's intelligence and life expectancy, this society is arrogantly overconfident in their scientific predictions and ruining people's lives because of it.
But it's just made up bullshit movie magic that lets him get away with that. They're factually wrong about vincent because he's the protagonist of the movie but they're right 99% of the time otherwise because serious medical complications are not overcome by "wanting it bad enough". I say this as a type one diabetic, testing my blood 8 times a day and injecting insulin at least 4 times a day, and still receiving permanent nerve damage from my every little mistake, it is my single biggest problem in life and i would give anything to not have this disease. To then see a movie where people want fake disablities so they're not pressured to succeed like the swimmer guy, to see people with disabilities just magically not have them when the plot demands it, it's fricking bullshit. It's not a good movie, it's drivel. Literally "protagonist is locked in a car trunk and the car goes off a cliff but somehow next episode he secretly escaped the trunk just in time and is still alive" tier.
Did he have disabilities? He was predicted to have these disabilities but ended up only having eye problems? His heart wasn't the best but still bang average or am i misremembering the movie?
He almost dies running on the treadmill at the gattaca training facility and even has a fake heartbeat to fool the scientists trying to assess his level of fitness. He never beats his brother at swimming until he puts in an explicitly suicidal effort after he's basically caught at the end and the brother is just a normal guy and even a smoker.
He then gets away with everything and survives the launch no problem because... reasons.
I assumed the treadmill incident was due to pressure from the cops poking around and him realizing they were on to him rather than his heart condition
bump
But he still prepared the fake heartbeat because he knew ahead of time he couldn't compete with the gattaca types. He knew the scientists measuring the activity would instantly see his defect and prepared for it the same way he prepared to leave fake eyelashes around for people to find. I also haven't watched the movie in 12+ years but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this.
> Filtered fatty projects onto kino sci-fi
that's type 2
I never masked or got the vaxx and infected everyone with covid. The triumph of freedom over basedcuck tyranny. 🙂 I'm just like Ethan Hawke in GATTACA. 🙂
everyone got infected anyway
I saw this recently it was kino. Now I want to read brave new world again.
I've been badgering my friends about how good this is lately.
I've been telling people about it for more than 5 years now and still the only other soul I know whose seen it is my gf (who I forced into watching it with me).
She really liked it though so it's better than nothing.
that's not Interstellar
only good parts about Interstellar are the scientific concepts it was based upon
Jon's writing sucks wiener
The science is nonsense.
Sci-FI.
>watched this for the first time in my 9th grade "honors" biology class
>eugenics is.....le BAD
thanks, post-1945 politically correct opinion
That's not the martian though
Showing a better society than ours.
A good story but too reliant on narration. Show don't tell.
>Show don't tell.
Isn't a thing. Stop believing hack writing gurus. Narration is fine.
Why the FRICK were they flying in a rocket in SUITS!
And what the frick was even the point of those missions?
Can we live in gattaca
shouldve won best score over titanic
How do I find something that motivates me to the same level that the journey to Jupiter’s moon motivated Vincent?
Four years later, it's still painful.
lower class white people lying to doctors, colleges, and their jobs about thier dna and physiology so that they get preferrential treatment is the deepest metaphor of now in any movie ever
How so?
Uma Thurman's character was very interesting