>Golden age >spanning 3 entire decades which each have pretty distinct styles and trends
Try again, perhaps by picking which decade is the best for horror which like all other film is the 70s
>spanning 3 entire decades which each have pretty distinct styles and trends
That's why I said "golden age" and not "best decade" or some shit like that. Obviously the films evolved over the course of 30 years, but these three consecutive decades were the peak of the genre and had things in common with each other that previous/later decades don't.
Not everything will apply to every movie, but >focus on human/humanoid killers
Probably the biggest one. Began in 1960 with Psycho and Peeping Tom, evolved with giallo, and became slashers. After the 80s these kind of films were never the most popular kind of horror gain.
Also >visual style
The visuals of movies changed a lot in the 90s and 2000s, and became unrecognizable in the 2010s >stories and character archetypes >exploitation/grimy feel (more 70s and 80s) >stronger emphasis on the soundtrack and overall atmosphere >increasing use of practical effects >other subgenres were more common, like creatures, anthologies films, old school hauntings, et cetera
I like horror after the 80s too but there's just something special about the movies produced during these three decades that I think was lost.
Fair enough anon, I was taking the piss originally, I've bumped your thread a few times now and will be posting more constructively from here on, please continue
People call Hollywood’s golden age the 30s- 50s. Even though they were all unique decades that had completely different genres. No need to go full moron against anon saying “there’s a 30 year stretch where good horror movies came out consistently.”
in classical history you can have golden ages spanning hundreds of years, theres no rule saying a golden age has to be a decade or that everything made during that time has to be the exact same style
I have bumped the thread multiple times and even conceded that point after OP provided a thought out answer. Calm down
>Schizoid
Just watched this today. Not bad. Surprised to see Christopher Lloyd in it.
A bunch of obscure low budget 70's stuff turned up on Tubi's leaving soon list so I've watching them like a crazy fricker because I'm never quite sure if they mean it. Mostly American International stuff.
Couple of the highlights were Scream And Scream Again and House Of The Long Shadows, both of which had Vincent Price, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing all together. (Cushing only had a bit part in SASA though)
My favorite Lee and Cushing kino is Horror Express with the added third act inclusion of Telly Savalas for no extra cost
in classical history you can have golden ages spanning hundreds of years, theres no rule saying a golden age has to be a decade or that everything made during that time has to be the exact same style
Honestly I didn't know how based the italians are experimenting their movies, mixing the horror with erotical elements without look "too cheap" is kino experience to me
Liminal horror from each decade
60s >Last Year at Marienbad >The Trial
70s >The Iron Rose >Malpertuis >Lisa and the Devil >Successive Slidings of Pleasure
80s >Litan >The Night of the Hunted >The Shining
60s >Toby Damnit >Simon of the Desert (not horror but still great)
70s >The Amusement Park >Corridor
80s >The Black Tower >Pink Floyd: The Wall >Lost In New York
Some other underseen horror films that have a "liminal"/lost space feeling to them >Luz >Hotel (2004) >YellowBrickRoad >The Wolf House >Dead End >Outer Space (1999) >Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) >The Strange Color of Your Body's Tears
60s >Toby Damnit >Simon of the Desert (not horror but still great)
70s >The Amusement Park >Corridor
80s >The Black Tower >Pink Floyd: The Wall >Lost In New York
Some other underseen horror films that have a "liminal"/lost space feeling to them >Luz >Hotel (2004) >YellowBrickRoad >The Wolf House >Dead End >Outer Space (1999) >Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) >The Strange Color of Your Body's Tears
>"liminal"/lost space feeling
While not "traditionally good" due to being a microbudget SOV film (and one of the first), Sledgehammer (1983) is probably the most "liminal" movie I've ever seen. The atmosphere they were able to create towards the end is actually impressive and creepy.
Also somehow it actually got released to theaters, which must've been crazy to witness.
I've actually heard of it as I love microbudget SOV nonsense, your description makes me want to watch it and its availability on tubi means I'll probably do so tonight. Thanks anon.
If you like SOV/microbudget horror here's some of my favorites I've come across >Final Flesh >After Last Season >In the Dark (2000) >Reflections of Evil >Split (1989) >Wax, or The Discovery of Television Among the Bees >Blood Beat >Ogroff >Science Crazed >Murder Death Koreatown >Tartarus >Fatal Pulse >Trash Humpers >The Manson Family (1997)
In particular I'd recommend Reflections of Evil as Damon Packard is like the Stanley Kubrick of SOV
If you're into SOV and already know what you're getting into then Sledgehammer is 100% worth a watch.
Haven't seen that many SOV movies yet but I also liked Suffer, Little Children which is more "competent" than Sledgehammer but it was a school project done by a bunch of kids and their teachers so it's obviously still rough kek.
Gonna save your list, thanks anon. I've seen Murder Death Koreatown which was great.
Oh nice, it's you
The post you made of these title with the YouTube links included is imo the best Cinemaphile post I've ever seen. In the Dark, Wax, and of course Packard's movies are some of my very favorites. If you haven't seen it I recommend The Strange Case of Senor Computer.
There's a lot of lower budget slashers from around 1980 to 1983ish that have really creepy offputting atmospheres even if the movies themselves kind of suck, it's really interesting.
>Schizoid
Just watched this today. Not bad. Surprised to see Christopher Lloyd in it.
A bunch of obscure low budget 70's stuff turned up on Tubi's leaving soon list so I've watching them like a crazy fricker because I'm never quite sure if they mean it. Mostly American International stuff.
Couple of the highlights were Scream And Scream Again and House Of The Long Shadows, both of which had Vincent Price, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing all together. (Cushing only had a bit part in SASA though)
It's a shift but horror in the 80s developed to what it became because of the 60s and 70s. 60s thrillers and 70s gialli led to the slasher craze that dominated the 80s.
You're right that the decades were still very different but I wanted to talk about "older" horror and needed to do a cutoff at some point, was originally just gonna do 70s but I expanded it.
80s horror was shit though, literally a step back or two from the 70s and 60s.
You can argue that it was weaker if you want but it definitely wasn't shit, so many kinos got released during the 80s.
Learned about that after I watched it. Even while watching I noticed how bright and "sleek" everything in the film looked, so I see what Argento was going for.
Also Phenomena takes place in a reality where the Nazis won World War 2.
>Bleedingskull
Seen that site pop up while I was researching SOV in the past.
Same, though my gripe is they're too "mainstream" when I'm trying to find something really obscure which typing it out makes me seem like a pretentious homosexual but I've already seen a lot of the recommendations
Thanks, I've found letterboxd to be helpful as I have a plugin that lets me sort lists by size so I can weed out all the arbitrarily huge 40000k "Every movie ever" list
>I have a plugin that lets me sort lists by size so I can weed out all the arbitrarily huge 40000k "Every movie ever" list
Sounds useful. I gave up on letterboxd lists when I realized they're all either incredibly vague so they can shove thousands of movies in or they're memes that don't help me decide what to watch at all.
I set it at 149 films and it usually gives me a good set of lists to peruse. I only really use it to log films anymore, any reviews I read are from the 75 or so people I follow (which is too much already)
nta but I also dig those for their vibes despite Messiah's convoluted polarizing plot. I also watched Carnival of Souls late and it was surprising to see how much Lynch is in it considering how wildly original he seems otherwise
he is wildly original but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some material he is clearly drawing from. look at the red room scenes in twin peaks and compare them to some of francis bacon's paintings for example. or the similarities between Rear Window and Blue Velvet
nta, it's one of my thinnest decades personally but here are some
Horror >Haxan >The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari >Nosferatu >The Life and Death of 9413, a Hollywood Extra >A Page of Madness
Generally >The Passion of Joan of Arc >Man with a Movie Camera >Steamboat Bill
Also give the Twice-Told Tales (63, all segments starring the great Vincent Price) anthology a watch, cinematography's great and the stories are horror with a touch of fantasy. It was remastered and rereleased a few years ago but apparently the bluray is now OOP and quite expensive
>Golden age
>spanning 3 entire decades which each have pretty distinct styles and trends
Try again, perhaps by picking which decade is the best for horror which like all other film is the 70s
>spanning 3 entire decades which each have pretty distinct styles and trends
That's why I said "golden age" and not "best decade" or some shit like that. Obviously the films evolved over the course of 30 years, but these three consecutive decades were the peak of the genre and had things in common with each other that previous/later decades don't.
>had things in common with each other that previous/later decades d
Name 7 and a half
Not everything will apply to every movie, but
>focus on human/humanoid killers
Probably the biggest one. Began in 1960 with Psycho and Peeping Tom, evolved with giallo, and became slashers. After the 80s these kind of films were never the most popular kind of horror gain.
Also
>visual style
The visuals of movies changed a lot in the 90s and 2000s, and became unrecognizable in the 2010s
>stories and character archetypes
>exploitation/grimy feel (more 70s and 80s)
>stronger emphasis on the soundtrack and overall atmosphere
>increasing use of practical effects
>other subgenres were more common, like creatures, anthologies films, old school hauntings, et cetera
I like horror after the 80s too but there's just something special about the movies produced during these three decades that I think was lost.
Fair enough anon, I was taking the piss originally, I've bumped your thread a few times now and will be posting more constructively from here on, please continue
Thanks anon. You're not wrong that lumping 30 years together is kinda an oversimplification but it works for a Cinemaphile thread kek.
People call Hollywood’s golden age the 30s- 50s. Even though they were all unique decades that had completely different genres. No need to go full moron against anon saying “there’s a 30 year stretch where good horror movies came out consistently.”
I have bumped the thread multiple times and even conceded that point after OP provided a thought out answer. Calm down
My favorite Lee and Cushing kino is Horror Express with the added third act inclusion of Telly Savalas for no extra cost
>I have bumped the thread multiple times
Appreciate it.
in classical history you can have golden ages spanning hundreds of years, theres no rule saying a golden age has to be a decade or that everything made during that time has to be the exact same style
The greatest horror anthology of all time
Bava is a legend. Horror would be completely different without him.
Honestly I didn't know how based the italians are experimenting their movies, mixing the horror with erotical elements without look "too cheap" is kino experience to me
One for each decade, all kino:
The Haunting (63)
Motel Hell (80)
Intruder (89)
>Intruder
We need more horror taking place at stores, feels like an underrated setting. A lot of my nightmares take place at stores for some reason.
And the kills/gore are inventive in a way that predated the Saw movies
Rosemary's Baby
Alien
The Thing
Classics, all outstanding
And still it was hard to pick, which goes to show how strong the three decades were
>which goes to show how strong the three decades were
Even today they make movies trying to emulate the success of films from back then.
So very true. Most acclaimed horror films today are the ones which were clearly made by people who have loved and studied 70s and 80s horror.
Liminal horror from each decade
60s
>Last Year at Marienbad
>The Trial
70s
>The Iron Rose
>Malpertuis
>Lisa and the Devil
>Successive Slidings of Pleasure
80s
>Litan
>The Night of the Hunted
>The Shining
Some interesting off the beaten path recs
All incredibly oneric which lends to the liminal/interstitial/labyrinthine feel. I can give more if you'd like
Go ahead, bookmarking them
60s
>Toby Damnit
>Simon of the Desert (not horror but still great)
70s
>The Amusement Park
>Corridor
80s
>The Black Tower
>Pink Floyd: The Wall
>Lost In New York
Some other underseen horror films that have a "liminal"/lost space feeling to them
>Luz
>Hotel (2004)
>YellowBrickRoad
>The Wolf House
>Dead End
>Outer Space (1999)
>Meshes of the Afternoon (1943)
>The Strange Color of Your Body's Tears
Thx liminalanon, lots of intriguing/interesting options there!
>"liminal"/lost space feeling
While not "traditionally good" due to being a microbudget SOV film (and one of the first), Sledgehammer (1983) is probably the most "liminal" movie I've ever seen. The atmosphere they were able to create towards the end is actually impressive and creepy.
Also somehow it actually got released to theaters, which must've been crazy to witness.
I've actually heard of it as I love microbudget SOV nonsense, your description makes me want to watch it and its availability on tubi means I'll probably do so tonight. Thanks anon.
If you like SOV/microbudget horror here's some of my favorites I've come across
>Final Flesh
>After Last Season
>In the Dark (2000)
>Reflections of Evil
>Split (1989)
>Wax, or The Discovery of Television Among the Bees
>Blood Beat
>Ogroff
>Science Crazed
>Murder Death Koreatown
>Tartarus
>Fatal Pulse
>Trash Humpers
>The Manson Family (1997)
In particular I'd recommend Reflections of Evil as Damon Packard is like the Stanley Kubrick of SOV
If you're into SOV and already know what you're getting into then Sledgehammer is 100% worth a watch.
Haven't seen that many SOV movies yet but I also liked Suffer, Little Children which is more "competent" than Sledgehammer but it was a school project done by a bunch of kids and their teachers so it's obviously still rough kek.
Gonna save your list, thanks anon. I've seen Murder Death Koreatown which was great.
Oh nice, it's you
The post you made of these title with the YouTube links included is imo the best Cinemaphile post I've ever seen. In the Dark, Wax, and of course Packard's movies are some of my very favorites. If you haven't seen it I recommend The Strange Case of Senor Computer.
There's a lot of lower budget slashers from around 1980 to 1983ish that have really creepy offputting atmospheres even if the movies themselves kind of suck, it's really interesting.
Post some
Home Sweet Home
Hospital Massacre
The Boogey Man
Schizoid
Madman
Prom Night
Off the top of my head. Some of these I quite like, others not so much, but all of them give me the heebies and even the jeebies regardless.
>Schizoid
Just watched this today. Not bad. Surprised to see Christopher Lloyd in it.
A bunch of obscure low budget 70's stuff turned up on Tubi's leaving soon list so I've watching them like a crazy fricker because I'm never quite sure if they mean it. Mostly American International stuff.
Couple of the highlights were Scream And Scream Again and House Of The Long Shadows, both of which had Vincent Price, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing all together. (Cushing only had a bit part in SASA though)
underrated
All those three decades are vastly different in both type and quality when it comes to horror films
Not as different as every other decade compared to them. 60s horror has more in common with 70s horror then it does with 50s horror.
Fair, but I'd say 60s to 80s is a big shift
It's a shift but horror in the 80s developed to what it became because of the 60s and 70s. 60s thrillers and 70s gialli led to the slasher craze that dominated the 80s.
Another fair point.
You're right that the decades were still very different but I wanted to talk about "older" horror and needed to do a cutoff at some point, was originally just gonna do 70s but I expanded it.
You can argue that it was weaker if you want but it definitely wasn't shit, so many kinos got released during the 80s.
i recently found out this movie takes place in the future and after an atomic blast
Doesn't Opera take place in some weird alternate history version of Switzerland or something?
You're thinking about Phenomena and yes, it takes place in the alternate Switzerland in a world where the nazis won WWII.
I never caught that, must have missed it amongst all the deformed mutant killers, awesome chimp sidekicks, and babes who can control insects
Learned about that after I watched it. Even while watching I noticed how bright and "sleek" everything in the film looked, so I see what Argento was going for.
Also Phenomena takes place in a reality where the Nazis won World War 2.
80s horror was shit though, literally a step back or two from the 70s and 60s.
I disagree, it was weaker than average than the 70s but it still produced a ton of great horror films, some of which are my absolute favorites
If anyone is interested in more SOV Horror, they should definitely check out Bleedingskull. That's essentialy their speciality.
Thanks, I'll check it out
>Bleedingskull
Seen that site pop up while I was researching SOV in the past.
Same, though my gripe is they're too "mainstream" when I'm trying to find something really obscure which typing it out makes me seem like a pretentious homosexual but I've already seen a lot of the recommendations
Makes sense when SOV is already pretty niche and obscure to begin with, but hopefully they give you some more recs in the future.
Thanks, I've found letterboxd to be helpful as I have a plugin that lets me sort lists by size so I can weed out all the arbitrarily huge 40000k "Every movie ever" list
>I have a plugin that lets me sort lists by size so I can weed out all the arbitrarily huge 40000k "Every movie ever" list
Sounds useful. I gave up on letterboxd lists when I realized they're all either incredibly vague so they can shove thousands of movies in or they're memes that don't help me decide what to watch at all.
I set it at 149 films and it usually gives me a good set of lists to peruse. I only really use it to log films anymore, any reviews I read are from the 75 or so people I follow (which is too much already)
My favorite "obscure" horror movie from that era, perfect beachy small town atmosphere and Lovecraftian too if you're into that kind of thing
And my other favorite though it'll probably be too slow and boring for a lot of people
I've heard of this one, but I havn't seen it
nta but it's great
I'll check it out
It has great visuals
Two movies I still need to check out.
nta but I also dig those for their vibes despite Messiah's convoluted polarizing plot. I also watched Carnival of Souls late and it was surprising to see how much Lynch is in it considering how wildly original he seems otherwise
he is wildly original but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some material he is clearly drawing from. look at the red room scenes in twin peaks and compare them to some of francis bacon's paintings for example. or the similarities between Rear Window and Blue Velvet
Lynch stole a lot from Jean Cocteau's Orpheus and from a surrealist pic called Dreams That Money Can Buy
>stole
Prove it
Gen z doesn’t even know the keno of the 30s and 40s and 50s
Good thread so far, thanks anons.
I've seen a few horror movies from each of those but I'm not as knowledgeable about them as later decades. Feel free to drop recs.
nta but Dementia from 1955 is pretty ahead of its time
That wasn't on my watchlist, thanks anon.
Shame on you for ignoring the 20s anon, that was where it all really started
Any 20s recs?
nta, it's one of my thinnest decades personally but here are some
Horror
>Haxan
>The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
>Nosferatu
>The Life and Death of 9413, a Hollywood Extra
>A Page of Madness
Generally
>The Passion of Joan of Arc
>Man with a Movie Camera
>Steamboat Bill
Saved, I watched The Baby the other day.
TALES OF TERROR (1962)
TALES THAT WITNESS MADNESS (1973)
TALES OF THE BIZARRE (1982)
All entertaining from 60's,70's, & 80's
You love tales huh?
Anon is always chasing tales.
Also give the Twice-Told Tales (63, all segments starring the great Vincent Price) anthology a watch, cinematography's great and the stories are horror with a touch of fantasy. It was remastered and rereleased a few years ago but apparently the bluray is now OOP and quite expensive
Will do, anon.
I'll check it out
>60s
I think you mean 30's OP