Are you excited for House of the Dragon season 2? Is there any news if Daeron the Daring has been cast yet, and how the showrunners will explain away no one mentioning Daeron in season 1?
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nah it's been too long I don't give a shit anymore
daeron has not been cast but showrunner says he has not been cut
nettles is cut
why the frick would they cut nettles? Isn't she Daemon's bastard? And if Daeron hasn't been cast that means he's only showing up in S3? When will S2 end? Why don't they just give us based Daeron? They can't just have a secret Targaryan son they never talked about show up in Season 3 out of the blue.
>why the frick would they cut nettles?
It would put a strain on the hecking wholesome Daemon + Rhaenyra romance so that's a no no.
>Isn't she Daemon's bastard?
no she is just some summer islander witch
its done. they are sending baela with daemon to harrenhal. its in the trailer
Nettles is just some GRRM fetish character that’s irrelevant to the larger story
Most of the Dance is like that
Nettles was one of the more interesting parts to having multiple accounts of the dance. In fact it’s one of the most argued about parts to this day, whether Daemon saw her as a daughter or a lover.
It’s a piece of background fluff that’s largely irrelevant to the larger story
Quote something she says.
>In fact it’s one of the most argued about parts to this day
Why? What difference does it make with anything?
It’s isn’t.
In all the years of threads here and on /tg/ I’ve never seen anyone debate it. It’s utterly background nonsense.
I’m not talking about us I’m talking about normal people. Whenever it’s brought up there are swarms of Daemon defenders swearing that Daemon only saw her as a daughter.
Because it makes Daemon not loyal to Rhaenyra if she was his lover, and Rhaenyra seem evil for demanding her head either way. It’s a sore spot for team black, so it’s a shame it’s not being included.
>Whenever it’s brought up there are swarms of Daemon defenders swearing that Daemon only saw her as a daughter.
Where?
Reddit, Twitter, take your pic. There are even hardcore Baela Stan’s arguing Sara Snow doesn’t exist because Jace would never cheat on her.
interesting folklore is that she survives the dance and goes to the mountains of moon and influences a renegade offshoot of the stone crows clan, who start mutilating parts of their body with fire to gain her and her dragon's favor, becoming the burned men clan, whose leader, timmett son of timmett meets with tyrion and comes to kings landing
also to note is that during littlefinger's monologue to sansa about harry the heir, he mentions that one of the elder sisters was abducted by the burned men while enroute to redstone, quite possibly making timett the rightful heir of the vale above harry
It’s just background chaff that doesn’t make an impact
>cutting a black female major character
Not in a million years
>nettles is cut
source?
im the source. its over
>im the source
On the slim chance you aren’t memeing give us a clue for season 2 aemond, does he put the council marble in his eye socket?
Some of you homosexuals are alright, don’t go to the Riverlands
>burning of the riverlands in season 2
Kino if true.
no
No for the clue or no for the eye socket?
I am not very excited because they seem to be taking the conflict and characters, and twisting them in a way that aligns with their sensibilities.
Alicent was a schemer but the writers are very feminist so now she's an innocent victim who misunderstands what's happening and everything is out of her control.
Aemond is a cool bad boy liked by girls so his psychopathic behavior now is turned into accidents out of his control.
Rhaenyra is a Maegor with breasts (aka vicious tyrant) but she's turned into a strong good girl resisting the patriarchy, all of her misdeeds get thrown into Daemon's lap.
Aegon's redeeming aspect is his bond to his dragon but he's opposed to Rhaenyra therefore in his coronation who's a dragonless schmuck who gets scared by a granny on her dragon.
Daemon groomed his niece but this is shown as a sweet romance because the writers know there's fangirls who'll ship it.
Criston Cole was used by Rhaenyra into breaking his vows, but the show framed that with modern 21st centuries in order to make him look like a bitter misogynist incel.
It's going to cheapen the story massively in the long term once people figure out what is being done to the story. The intrigue and complexity is being thrown out so the writers can play favorite and they distort the sensibilities to fit a 21st century audience more.
my favorite was the white worm being changed into some social worker in kings landing feeding the poor instead of a mysterious schemer. guarantee she will have nothing to do with blood and cheese in the show, nor with rhaenyra they are gonna make it entirely daemon's plan
cant have women doing anything bad!
>Criston Cole was used by Rhaenyra into breaking his vows, but the show framed that with modern 21st centuries in order to make him look like a bitter misogynist incel.
Agreed, he's the worst part of the show for many reasons though. Swear that gay was one word off using some twitter slang when he has his incel rant. Also he ruins 2 other scenes for me, the killing at the King's celebration and when he just kills one of the fricking council members - not a single bit of wtf from anyone? No punishment? Not even a confrontation? He's a horribly written character in this show
They intionally nerfed him so as to not give any incels a role model
While I agree it was moronic to do it that way instead of at the tourney like the book. Wasn’t it implied that there was going to consequences for him for both killing Joffrey and breaking his vows when he was about to kill himself? It was Alicent who pardoned him, we just didn’t get to see it because of the time convenient time jump.
kek had the same thought when he smashed the guys head on the table
Why does Criston get away with killing a member of the council without any kind of excuse?
>WHO ELSE but criston!? Haha what will you do next you silly little frickboy
Treason is punishable by death in Westeros
Beesbury spoke treason against the king of westeros Aegon II Targaryan. Cole was dispensing the King's justice.
The King's Justice doesn't usually involve bashing people's heads open like watermelons, they use swords and ropes when they need to execute someone for committing a crime.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Also I could be wrong on the order of things but I'm pretty sure the Lord Commander of the King's Guard resigned shortly after Cole murdered Beesbury.
I was like, oh, I guess the Queen has some power I guess.
Can't forget them making all the Velaryons black even though Valyrians are supposed to be white people and even though they already had a perfectly good excuse to insert black people into the setting in the form of Summer Islanders.
That's not how diversity casting works, and its increasing each day. The blacks must be given pivotal roles and be present every episode you can't get away with clever casting like that now anon
As the saying goes,
>give them an inch...
It honestly is the fricking stupidest thing and reeks of americanism and its actually mental
I love Rhaenyra!
Rhaenys - killed at the Battle of Rook's Rest in late 129 AC alongside her dragon Meleys, severely injuring Aegon II and Sunfyre in the process
Jacaerys - shot in the water by crossbowmen in the Battle of the Gullet in 130 AC after his dragon Vermax crashed into the sea
Otto - captured by Rhaenyra after the Blacks' taking of Kings Landing and promptly executed in 130 AC
Criston - pin-cushioned by Robb Rivers (the finest archer in Westeros) and two other archers in the Butcher's Ball massacre in 130 AC
Aemond - impaled through his blind eye by Daemon in the Battle Above the God's Eye, mutually dying with his uncle (presumably) and their dragons in 130 AC
Daemon - skewered Aemond mid-air like a fricking boss and likely died with him alongside their dragons in 130 AC, though his body was never found
Helaena - committed suicide on the day of the Storming of the Dragonpit in 130 AC, jumping from her window onto moat spikes below
Joffrey - mounted Syrax to try and stop the riots during the Storming of the Dragonpit in 130 AC, thrown off by the dragon mid-flight
Daeron - died mysteriously during the Second Battle of Tumbleton in 130 AC, most likely slain by a sellsword upon leaving his tent
Mysaria - captured by Greens' supporters after they retook King's Landing in 130 AC, died from whipping on a walk of atonement
Rhaenyra - captured by Aegon II upon returning to Dragonstone at the end of 130 AC and eaten alive by Sunfyre with her son Aegon watching on
Aegon II - crippled for most of the war until fatally poisoned by unconfirmed conspirators prior to Cregan Stark's arrival in 131 AC
Larys - willingly chose to be executed by Cregan Stark during the Hour of the Wolf in 131 AC, his House going extinct upon his beheading
Alicent - survived the Dance but confined to her chambers in 132 AC and became depressed and insane, died from Winter Fever a year later
Corlys - survived the Dance and named as one of Aegon III's regents, passed away in 132 AC of old age
Aegon III - became king in 131 AC and married Helaena's daughter Jaehaera Targaryen, scarred by the Dance and was massively depressed his entire reign
Viserys II - presumed dead after the ship ferrying him to Pentos was raided in 129 AC, eventually reunited with Aegon III in 134 AC, became king in 171 AC
Cregan - delivered classic unbiased Northern justice in the Hour of the Wolf in 131 AC, returned North after Aegon III's coronation, lived a long respectable life
>unbiased Northern justice
He let Corlys live despite knowing he was involved in Aegon's poisoning because some used up old roastie put out.
Author favoritism plot Armor. George is a giant fricking fat homosexual wienersucker with shit taste
>Daeron - died mysteriously during the Second Battle of Tumbleton in 130 AC, most likely slain by a sellsword upon leaving his tent
He didn't actually die though. The historians and Maesters who wrote Blood and Fire wrote that he died. Daeron rode Tessarion as it continued to fight after he died and Daeron is the mysterious hedgeknight who went to king's landing and installed a vassal on the throne who started giving orders that brough order to King's landing. Daeron didn't die unceremoniously burning in a tent after a sneak attack, he survived the whole war but was written out of history.
Daemon is such a homosexual
>like a boss
And so are you
Daemon is a kinkilling blasphemous homosexual
>Aemond - impaled through his blind eye by Daemon in the Battle Above the God's Eye, mutually dying with his uncle (presumably) and their dragons in 130 AC
They better not butcher this, sounds cool.
As a bookgay, I think I stopped caring about GOT around season 5 and just continued watching out of obligation but not enjoying it, and I haven't watched HOTD at all or read any of the books. I know George RR Martin loves his targaryens but i always found them the least interesting faction
He comes...
Marcus Parks
I miss Ben. Ed Larson is a homosexual.
I look forward to Aemond
I also hope Alys will be witchy and sinister, the show needs more sinister women since they declaved Alicent and Rhaenyra
I really liked the Red Woman plot until they told it to frick off and take a back seat. Hope they don't do this to Alicent, probably my favorite part of S1 other than the withering king.
>"Ah yes, Daemon Targaryen"
>*suppresses a chuckle*
>"The Rogue Prince™"
>*smiles to himself*
>”equal parts light and dark”
George should have stuck to writing pulpy comic type stories. He’s clearly more enthusiast when writing generic fantasy tropes than trying to subvert them
>show made Rhaenyra's murder of Laenor into actually liberating him from the horror of having to be straight, instead letting him run away as a gay man
Imagine dying just so some lord can frick off with his secret lover and his wife and marry her uncle, and spectators watching the entirety of history deem this to be a good thing.
It gives them a known character to hide their kids in pentosor whatever
He's going to return as Adam Hull
for me it's team BLACKED
Based. I am also Team Blacked
This always feels so awkward and unsexy to watch. Shes objectively beautiful, but she looks so sad and not into it.
Which one is this the young or walled alicient?
Also main reason is just unflattering poses its more natural, unlike onlyfans instathot making bullshots
That’s the older Alicent. Young Alicent is a lesbian zoomer.
shame. she'll grow out of it
Nah, she seems like a genuine lesbian. The trendy thing is to identify as non binary.
My brothel queen!
No because Helaena hasn't been featured prominently in any of the promotional material.
How relevant is she even in her schizo state? I haven'tt read the books.
YES! My favourite character is Niggrelis Targaryen. I only ask the god of voodoo that there is more inclusion and diversity in this new season.
Someone post that meme of "pure valyrian stock" and then it's some bantu with a wig on lol
is this another one of those shows where men are bad and women are good? if so nope not interested in your leftist slop
No, it has more nuance.
Good guys. Team BLACKED
>Black person targaryans
>prostitute queens
>gays
>bastard children
>strong independent women
>simps
>so yboys
Bad guys. Team Green
>aryan men
>conservatives
>non prostitutes
>incels
>patriarchy
Yeah, it was never a question of which side for me....
>Rhaenyra's coronation
>hopeful heroic music
>Aegon's coronation
>nazi rally
Oh yeah bro I'm sure as hell looking forward to this nuanced and grey conflict kek.
Kek very true. Sad because I think Alicent is more justified imo. Not really Nazi in my eyes.
need leaks for season 2
aegon will parade meleys head on kings landing and the smallfolk chher for the revenge on the b***h who killed a lot of them in s01e09
Daerons not in this season but they will likely mention him at least. A few lines mentioning him in season 1 were cut which I think was a mistake. Nettles is cut though, her arc in the war will be given to Baela. If there is an affair of some kind it will be given to Alys. She’s giving Daemon sleep aids to stop his nightmares and caring for his wounds in the leaked audition script.
do you have more leaks
Depends on what you know already my dear anon.
I know nothing other than these
. heard the show will take more liberties with adapting fire and blood too
Take it with a pinch of salt but the sources have not been wrong yet. Daemon sneaks into kings landing in episode one and is involved with blood and cheese somehow. Dyana is involved with blood and cheese too (the moon tea girl from season 1). Rhaenyra and Daemon have a falling out because of it and they spend a lot of time apart. Daemon being at Harrenhal with Alys for most of the first half of the season (their relationship is not confirmed or anything but it would make sense now that Nettles has been cut). The peasants riot against green rule, Rhaenerya sneaking into kings landing disguised as a septa is directly related to this somehow. A wagon of food is involved too so she’s likely feeling Le poor starving peasants. Rooks rest is episode 4 and Baela will be in the fight, or at least will be the one to discover cripsy rhaenys. Melys head parade is the episode after that. There will be some shots of white walkers at some point, likely a flashback scene while Cregan explains aegons prophecy. Hugh hammer has a nude scene with the brothel milf that took aemonds virginity /
>Melys head parade is the episode after that.
That girlboss granny had it coming for ruining Aegon's coronation and slaughtering those innocent small folk.
Yeah rooks rest will be the highlight of the season for me.
how gay
>There will be some shots of white walkers at some point
They all just get one shoted by Arya? They are completely irrelevant to anything and everything. Why would they include them?
more indepth look into the lore and culture of whitewalkers (they're trans btw)
How gloomy. I guess I’ll only watch the Aegon and Aemond parts
>Nettles has been cut.
You don't need Nettles (or ANY of the Dragonseeds) until season 3 at the earliest.
Dragonseeds have been confirmed for episode 6 or 7 though.
How can they just have a secret targaryan son not show up for two years only to appear in S3 with Ormond Hightower and be like "oh yeah my bros Aemond and Aegon have been kicking ass, time for me to do something now". What explanation can they give for never mentioning him?
Ill watch it but cutting characters in an adaptation of such a small book and casting nigges as Velaryons makes me seethe
also adult Rhaenerya isnt very hot and I miss monke
>I miss monke
She’s not coming back so stop bringing it up. Monkeposters deserve to be sent to the wall.
Why does it feel like there’s no tension at all? The “villains” are like 3 people, if you kill them, the story is over. GOT didn’t have that feeling, which was the whole appeal.
Also don’t like how there are obvious good guys and obvious bad guys. Part of the reason why I disliked the last few seasons of GOT.
I guess the first 4 seasons of GOT will never be replicated, not even in the same universe.
>Why does it feel like there’s no tension at all? The “villains” are like 3 people, if you kill them, the story is over. GOT didn’t have that feeling, which was the whole appeal.
I get what you mean, but there will be a lot more notable houses joining the war this season that have their own little wars going on. Season 1 was a prologue basically. You can’t tell me non book gays would understand what was going on if you condensed season 1 into a couple of episodes and then went straight into war.
Well I skimmed through the wiki so I know what happens in the book more or less. The book must be really good, but I doubt they’ll translate all of the intricacies from all of the houses in the series. Because this story is inherently more focused on a certain group of people whereas GOT was more about the universe.
To criticise the show fairly you should read the book anon.
I’m not criticizing it, because the show is not even fully out yet, I’m explaining why I don’t feel as excited about it as I did with GOT, capisce?
That's a ridiculously stance to take anon. If a show based on sixty pages in a book needs to fallback on the book to feel like anything of note is really happening that's a failure of the eight hour long tv series.
In the time it takes to watch a single episode of HOTD you can read the entire conflict in fire and blood.
I meant more the fact anon is criticising the show for not living up to events in the book he skimmed through on Wikipedia. It just baffles me why anyone would want to post in any got related threads without having reading all of the books.
Because a show should be able to stand on it's own, it's villains should have in show reasons for being hateable and it's stakes should be setup and felt.
HOTD did a poor job of making the conflict feel large scale by brushing past things you'd think were of significance constantly and ignoring the larger implication of the main casts actions.
>Also don’t like how there are obvious good guys and obvious bad guys
like got?
>Also don't like how there are obvious good guys and obvious bad guys
Because Tywin Lannister, Cersei Lannister, Gregor Clegane, Janos Slynt, Joffrey Baratheon, Ramsay and Roose Bolton, and every single slaver we see are all such morally ambiguous characters who might not be so bad after all.
Having pure evil characters is not bad, Joffrey was kino. But you can’t say that most characters in GOT weren’t morally grey, with the only exception being Jon Snow. That’s the difference.
What’s morally grey about Rhaenyra? Everything she does is painted as the hero. She has kids with another man? Oh it’s because her husband is gay and actually knows about it. She has an affair with her uncle? Oh it’s actually pure love, how cute. And she’s fighting for her rightful claim, and her best friend betrayed her, and her son gets killed, and she’s always the victim. Boring.
Even if she didn’t actually kill Laenor, she still made his parents think he was dead. Rhaenys will die thinking her son is dead and that the woman she’s dying for is responsible for it. And what she did with child Aemond was pretty fricked.
I haven’t been excited for this show since they casted Black velaryons.
not even a little
sorry not watching shit until the fat man finishes his books
Why do people keep referring to based Cole as an incel, is it just leftist morons and their lack of a vocabulary? Dude is voluntarily celibate and is pissed that some prostitute tricked him into dicking her down.
Because they way he's written is cringe and doesn't provoke any of that
Cole isn’t an incel. He’s involuntarily non celibate.
Me walking to my seat in the theater during a romcom screening, passing by all of the couples holding hands and kissing (im volcel and sigma, just enjoy the genre)
Big fan of your work anon.
This scene was so based, I wish I could be as cool as Aemond.
i wish Daemon and Aemond could just go kill some tyroshi brown people or something, you can tell Daemon likes Aemond
Daemon seems to have no respect for Aemond and Aemond seems to idolize Daemon
>seems to have no respect for Aemond
I didn’t get that from the dinner scene, Daemon clearly found what Aemond said amusing. If Aemond was Daemons step son they would get along much more than Daemon does with the strong bastards.
>Daemon seems to have no respect for Aemond
i didn't get that, he seems to like him at the very least and he probably respects how much of an butthole and how untamed he is
>Aemond seems to idolize Daemon
I don’t think Aemond is aware that he does though, or at least tells himself he doesn’t.
The Green and Black conflict is the israeli "caduceus"
... it’s Satan and Yahweh; good and evil; the pharisee and the rebel; the left-wing israelite and the conservative israelite; it’s magneto and xavier; superman and the kryptonians; it’s the targaryens and King Bran; Vulcans and Romulans
rocky and bullwinkle
I'm also Team Black.
Blackfyre that is.
Daemon did nothing wrong, that homosexual Daeron should've been deposed for kissing so much Dornish ass.
what happened to all the other game of thrones spin offs that were supposed to come out?
Dunk and Egg has just cast its main characters and is about to start filming.
Anyone who saw S8 and STILL wanted more yummy fantasy slop got exactly what they deserved, for better and worse.
does anyone irl watch this shit or the rang of powah?
People at least genuinely like HoTD, no one gives a frick about RoP outside of normalgays.
i watched the pilots of both and both were painfully cringe. Black person targaryen are probably the least demented thing in the whole show and it says it all.
I pushed through finishing rings of power to keep up with the threads here dunking on the writing, it was genuinely hard to get through. Hotd was kino though.
This show will only redeem itself if it makes Aegon cool. They already botched and sabotaged that as much as possible so I'm not expecting much.
Aegon looks cool as frick in the green trailer.
LAWD DEM RANGS
it's too bad season 2 won't have luke
You’ll see his rotting remains in a pile of Vhagars shit.
yeah but that will be cgi, satan
The actors 18 and Welsh anon its all downhill from here
Books:
>the greens know a large part of the royal symbolism is dragonpower, so Aegon flies his dragon Sunfyre during his coronation - also foreshadowing that one of Aegon's rare redeeming qualities is his dragonriding and I'll-do-it-myself attitude which is a contrast to Rhaenyra
>Rhaenys and the loyal kingsguard quietly sneak away with the crown Viserys wore
>Rhaenyra doesn't ride her dragon after the black council because she was in labor recently and is still too physically exhausted, plus she's not big on dragonriding displays anyway
Show:
>no Sunfyre in sight, rapist Aegon looks like a dragonless emo schmuck with a hangover as nazi music plays during his coronation
>Rhaenys bursts out of the floor on dragonback during the coronation and frightens the greens, contrasting their dragonless position with her own dragon display of power - Aegon looks like a cuck that got frightened to death by granny on a dragon
>Rhaenyra rides her dragon five minutes after giving birth and the music plays up the sympathy for her super hard
Garbage show, I knew it'd be garbage from the moment Laenor's fate was altered to score points with the LGBT crowd and give the points to Rhaenyra.
I'll keep track of season 2 through the threads and if the webms are good then I'll join in and watch. If not I'll just catch up when season 3 is imminent.
Sounds like they butchered the intent of the author, but at least you got me interested in the books over the slop on HBO.
the greens did nothing wrong