Between 2001 and roughly 2010 comic books like Civil War, The Ultimates, Ex Machina, Y The Last Man, and many others were really influenced by the post 9/11 America, the Patriot Act, and the general feeling of angst america had. Which ones do you think hold up? Which ones are dated?
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Are there any comics released during the Bush administration that question the state narrative? Everytime I see 9/11 threads it's just Doom crying and other propaganda.
But we didn't fund Bin Laden. The groups we funded stayed our allies.
Saudis have never even our allies. They like Bush and his CIA buddies, and only for the coups
I thought americlaps funded the taliban in afghanistan to fight ruzzians
Yeah, but the Saudis funded us to get rid of Sadam in the 90's. When Bush Sr failed the mission, they reminded his son
There are a few that do exist. But you have to do some digging to find them.
There was this one truther comic that I've seen storytimed here a few times where a wife invents time travel to save her husband on 9/11, but she doesn't believe she's actually his wife or any of her inside job conspiracy theories so he's killed by the explosives planted in his office anyway.
This comic is what pushed me in to believing more and more the conspiracy theory US is at least partially responsible for 9/11.
I don't actually believe all the quaquery about bombs or the fuel jet can't melt shit because it feels more you classic case of people feeling the lacunes of ignorance with stupid shit. But when you look at actual evidence of how the US knew shit was going down and did nothing, and even go as far as to cripple their own air defense system is kinda clear it's was somewhat planned. Normally if this shit happened they would just shut down the planes and blame on a storm and people wound't think much about it.
Is classic american psyops shit to fund their own problems so they can offer the solutions after. They do that a lot pushing "extreme groups" to be even more extreme to get more funding or whatever. I don't think we will ever have a full clear picture of what it truly happened, but you need to be a legitimate sheep to not look in the facts and realize something is deeply wrong with how it all happened.
Terrorism today is basically the same excuse communism gave the CIA back in the day
Yeah, "the government heard that 9/11 would happen and allowed it" is plausible even if I don't personally think it's true, I just think the government was being incompetent. "The government made 9/11 happen by planting explosives" conspiracy theory just has too many holes in it for me to even entertain it.
That's basically exactly the way it's portraying in The Boys, with the government knowing what was happening more or less and just completely failing to stop it, though in the comic it's because the Vought cronies try to use it as an opportunity to show off their superheroes saving the day and royally frick it up, it's still the same result. Preventable tragedy allowed to happen for the purpose of propping up military contract bullshit.
But people forget that's even part of the story because DUDE NOT-SUPERMAN SAID Black person LMAO
Doesn't matter because there's always going to be a bunch of well-poisoning controlled opposition morons ready to start screaming about tower 7 and dancing israelis in order to obfuscate.
>you need to be a legitimate sheep to not look in the facts and realize something is deeply wrong with how it all happened.
The problem with conspiracy theorists as a type is that even when a given conspiracy is plausible, their evidence analysis is almost invariably dogshit riddled with logical errors. Then they have the gall to claim to be sceptics and to accuse you of being the gullible one for treating their incredibly flimsy claims with doubt.
They're also too moronic to just say "this doesn't add up" about something, it's always gotta be "this doesn't add up because it actually happened this way, and the israelites did it"
What like, all the things that touch 9/11?
Anything to do with 9/11?
Because I could explain some patterns between a couple of things that would really level a building that hadn't been hit by a plane.
Civil War
>commented on the Patriot Act and the political divide between the right and the left that our involvement in afghanistan and the patriot act caused at the time. And while it's effects were eventually undone, it still influences Marvel Comics lore to this day.
Ultimates
>Reimagined the Avengers as a tougher gritter team that took the fight to terrorists and later in the series even disarmed middle eastern nation of it's nuclear weapons. later turned out to be an illusion conjured by Loki to turn people agaisnt the ultimates and manipulate hank pym and gave us a Captain America that is about as right wing as Captain America has ever been allowed to be
>Ex Machina
Entire story is about a Superhero who saved the second tower from the 9/11 attacks being elected mayor of New York in a clear metaphor for Rudy Giulianis leadership of the city in the aftermath.
Mark Millar was clearly pandering to the americans who were boycotting french goods at the time because they opposed US involvement in the middle east.
Freedom Fries were delicious, you frog.
comics predicted it.
The Project for the New American Century mentions a second pearl harbor in order to increase military spending a full year before 9/11
Mark Millar makes that idea part of a literal satanic conspiracy in his story American Jesus.
I'm pretty sure devil worship is a part of being in Skulls and Bones, which both Bushes were members of
>I'm pretty sure devil worship is a part of being in Skulls and Bones
I'm pretty sure you're a moron.
Tell me more, Mr Glowie
Realistically if the 9/11 attacks had happened in a world where Superheroes existed. Either the heroes would have prevented it, or it would have been a Jihadist supervillain leading the attack.
>Realistically
>a world where Superheroes existed
Maybe i should have said 'had internal logic'. Because in a world where Superman can go toe to tow Brainiac and Darkseid, preventing 9/11 would be easy.
It would have to be a super-9/11, some butthole thinking outside the box and perpetrating an atrocity in a very public place that everyone thought safe.
>im unable to interact with a hypothetical
signs of low intelligence
In the Comic version of The Boys, the Seven attempted to avoid the tragedy and destroyed a bridge in the process
The Seven aren't Superheroes.They're spoiled celebrities with superpowers.
In a strange funny way
Figures a European would do something like this.
Based Euros.
7/7 was hilarious
Chileans have their own 9/11 too bit for them it wasn't that bad since Allende killed himself and Pinochet became president.
A bad day for the US but a good day for Chile.
OK amerimutt
but I am also chilean
What the actual frick?
Has anyone here actually read any of the comic books mentioned?
Yes. The 9/11 conspiracy comic was actually in the Storytime of Pain series. Rich Veich does art.
The devil worshipping conspiracies are my favourite, because honestly you might as well go all the way or go home.
It also helps that Millar is religious and actually believes in the devil being real.
I'm trying to talk about comic books. Not co media in general.
my bad, reading comprehension ain't what it used to be
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Geoff’s Sinestro Corps was modeled after that post-9/11 era where people exchanged freedom for security out of fear.
The Boys is the best comic to deal with post-9/11 America, and now morons who weren't even born when the towers fell are saying the show "fixed it" by making some homosexual climb inside another homosexual's dickhole and ironically-but-unironically using "girls get it done" as a plot point.
I agree with your statement.
The Boys is mentally ill garbage like most comic books around that era.
you are gay
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>there are people on this board who were born after 9/11
Damn.
That's been the case since like 2015 at the latest unfortunately