He means that the game timeline is (mostly) canon in the show, not the film timeline. The only people confused about this are game fans. "Is this a sequel to RE Final Chapter?" normal people wonder. "It looks an awful like Final Chapter, if Final Chapter had no personality." No, says the showrunner. "The games are our canon." Raccoon blew up in 1998, not in like 2004. Wesker died in 2009, not in 2012.
It's canon with the games in terms of plot. This is as stupid as saying, "The director said it's literally canon with the games...but Wesker isn't a CGI character?" Don't be a moron.
It's a 7/10. Clearly had some creative disagreements, since the show visibly shifts direction after Episode 4. The people who hate it tend to hate it for political reasons or because they don't like that it's an RE TV show about mixed race teenage girls. The 1/10 reviews people were spamming were complete nonsense.
I'm bipoc btw and i hated it too. I hate seeing things that were part of my growing up get ruined by bunch of landwhales with colored hair living in genetic experiment of a country.
They made those CG movies and nobody watched them. They made Welcome to Raccoon City, which was basically adapting RE1/2 remake, and nobody watched that, either. Meanwhile the live action movies significantly reinvented Resident Evil to great success.
The Paul Anderson movies were popular as their own thing. They're popcorn flicks with lots of action.
Nobody so far has tried to adapt the games into something slow-paced with a focus on atmosphere and mystery. The games are supposed to be dark, isolated, dirty, eerie, and suspenseful, but whenever someone adapts it, they make it a bright-lit, straightforward buddy sci-fi action movie
>Nobody so far has tried to adapt the games into something slow-paced with a focus on atmosphere and mystery.
That's literally what Welcome to Raccoon City was. Also... >The games are supposed to be dark, isolated, dirty, eerie, and suspenseful
Most RE games are not this at all. Especially not after RE4. RE Village is a straight up action game that has more in common with the Van Helsing movie from 2004 than anything else.
I'm sorry, but that's moronic. And it's a ridiculous hill to attempt to die on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's less moronic than you'd think. 1-3, 4-6, and 7+8 have virtually nothing to do with each other in terms of gameplay, lore, themes, or aesthetics. They're different trilogies of games that share a common name, the name popularized by the original series.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's how franchises work, anon. People tried to claim that RE2 wasn't a real RE game back in 1998 because it didn't have any characters from the first game and had nothing substantial to do with the story from the first game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> People tried to claim that RE2 wasn't a real RE game back in 1998 because it didn't have any characters from the first game
What people? >had nothing substantial to do with the story from the first game.
It's about a second virus outbreak now in the city, takes place in the police precinct where S.T.A.R.S. are headquartered, stars Chris Redfield's sister, and explains that that the survivors from the first game fled to Europe for safety before the virus broke out. Nobody could consider it tangential.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's about a second virus outbreak now in the city, takes place in the police precinct where S.T.A.R.S. are headquartered, stars Chris Redfield's sister, and explains that that the survivors from the first game fled to Europe for safety before the virus broke out. Nobody could consider it tangential.
Literally all those things equally apply to this TV show, though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it's trying to follow the story of the game, but it doesn't attempt the style or atmosphere.
2 years ago
Anonymous
RE2's style and atmosphere are nothing like RE1.
2 years ago
Anonymous
One takes place in a dark, abandoned mansion that could double as an art museum, the other takes place in a dark, abandoned police building that could double as an art museum. In both games characters are exploring rooms on their own, looking for clues and objects to solve elaborate and bizarre puzzles often involving art and poetry, reading notes usually left by recently deceased people to get more plot details, and every so often, you meet and briefly interact with another character but are otherwise alone. Action is usually relegated to brief, tense "jump scare" moments rather than long sequences. The music, the framing of the camera angles, the creature designs, etc are comparable.
They're a very similar style of game, very similar themes and atmosphere. 3 is as well, although that has more action (and coincidentally was intended to be a side game). So is Code Veronica.
Hell, they're so similar that one of the excuses people make for the vastly different direction of 4 is that the series was "stagnating" and needed a major change.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the other takes place in a dark, abandoned police building
The police station is brightly lit. >In both games characters are exploring rooms on their own, looking for clues and objects to solve elaborate and bizarre puzzles often involving art and poetry, reading notes usually left by recently deceased people to get more plot details, and every so often, you meet and briefly interact with another character but are otherwise alone. Action is usually relegated to brief, tense "jump scare" moments rather than long sequences.
That's basically just Alone in the Dark, though. >The music, the framing of the camera angles, the creature designs, etc are comparable.
Actually, the monsters are super different. The art direction is very different. The music is a different style. It reminds me of SH2, which Japanese fans hated because of the art design, monsters, music, plot, etc. having nothing to do with the first game. >Hell, they're so similar that one of the excuses people make for the vastly different direction of 4 is that the series was stagnating" and needed a major change.
That was to do with the game design more than anything else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The police station is brightly lit.
Oh come on. It's dreary, messy, isolating, and foreboding. Even the echo of your footsteps give a sense of dread, and any "brightly lit" area" is no more "brightly lit" than some areas of RE1. Hell, the main hall of the RPD is darker than the main hall of the Spencer Mansion. >That's basically just Alone in the Dark, though.
Another good game series, although that one's about Lovecraftian monsters and voodoo. Is there a further point you wanted to make here though? >Actually, the monsters are super different. The art direction is very different. The music is a different style.
Elaborate on this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Musically basically all the RE games feel very different. I'm not a musician so I can't put my finger on it, but there's a reason RE never had a theme song, for example. It never had a concrete musical identity that carries across games. The save room themes tend to follow a certain feel, but everything is largely just "Overworked Japanese videogame composer" stuff. RE1 was a lot more bombastic in places, and I think that was the product of the tone. There's also the director's cut soundtrack which is very weird.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Here's the main hall themes of RE1 and RE2
You don't think there's any kind of similarity between them as dark, atmospheric tracks?
2 years ago
Anonymous
RE2's is in a wildly different musical style. RE1's hall theme almost has no melody at all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, it even starts with nearly the same notes. Not only should you be able to tell a clear stylistic similarity between the two games, but you're also trying to convince me, while arguing that 1 and 2 are nothing alike, that 2 is just like the live-action movies and TV show, and (or to another poster) that 1, 2, and 3 are just like 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. This is madness.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Having the same notes doesn't mean the same musical style. Resident Evil Extinction has the same theme song as the original RE film, but due to the new composer it sounds nothing like the old movie. They completely ditched the old metal/Manson direction.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alright, we'll ignore everything else and hinge everything on this tangent about the soundtracks.
What separate styles would you put those two songs in and what do you think they're meant to induce in terms of mood?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The first game is trying to evoke horror in a very bombastic way, clearly taking a lot of influence from AitD's rather... screechy soundtrack. RE2's soundtrack is trying to be more moody and melodic. They are trying to evoke horror, but the setting of the horror, and the context of the horror are very different. RE1 is about intimate spaces. RE2 is about a city on fire.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They are trying to evoke horror, but the setting of the horror, and the context of the horror are very different
They're more similar to each other than they are to other tracks in their own games.
Here's another example
You can't hear any similarity? It's like Slayer and Michael Jackson to your ears?
And then here's the music from Welcome to Raccoon City
What RE track does that sound like?
Or its RPD music
I watched the CG movies, too, and they're fun, but they are no popular. They're like the Final Fantasy CG movies in that they don't have any appeal to non-game-fans. Wheras a good adaptation should be appealing to people who don't care about the source material, and ideally it should even win over people who dislike the source material.
>They made Welcome to Raccoon City, which was basically adapting RE1/2 remake, and nobody watched that, either
Why would they? They couldn't even make any of the characters except Claire look like how they are supposed to. Don't pretend that it was an authentic take. Someone in the production wanted it to be, but it was obviously sabotaged by executives forcing bad casting and changes.
>They couldn't even make any of the characters except Claire look like how they are supposed to.
All RE projects will have casting like WTRC going forward. The sooner you accept it, the better.
>The sooner you accept it, the better.
Frick no, I'll never accept it. I'm watching South Korean and Chinese movies now. Western shitty garbage media is not the only game in town.
South Korean films have been fantastic since the early 00s. Chinese even earlier. The fact you're only watching them now tells me you're not really in it for the quality of the media rather it's all a political thing for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't just start watching them now. It's just now that I barely watch any new Western shows. American media is in steep, steep decline of quality. It's absolute garbage and not worth watching.
The CG movies are trying to emulate the Anderson movies at parts Leon takes shots from Tyrants and shrugs it like nothing. They are non-stop crazy action.
WtRC was a RE1 and RE2 shoved in the same movie with a short run time and nearly no budget, its budget is 25 millions, the first RE movie had a budget of 33 millions back in 2002.
So far there has been no real attempt at replicating the games.
Resident Evil 1 is so beautiful game. I just played it for the first time last year. Always thought RE was some kind of zombie shooter, poor predecessor to SH. But it turned out to be a beautiful and scary quest.
Welcome to Racoon City was a pretty faithful adaption but everyone just screamed about pajeet Leon and didn't actually watch the thing.
It's pretty good actually and Leon's the best part of it.
>Welcome to Racoon City was a pretty faithful adaption >faithful
Why do you fricking constantly lie about this movie? Oh right, you're just another fricking shill.
It is actually faithful though. It got the setting down pat, the characters were changed slightly but characters were never really a strong point of the series anyway.
You're not jus moaning about the race swaps are you? You probably have some legit complaints which I'd love to talk about but if it's "muh white genocide" shit I'm just going to laugh in your face.
Unwatchable shit.CW show with zombies and dumb creatures. Most show are shit anyways. If you can't complete a story in two hours you are telling it wrong and putting bullshit that doesn't belong.
What do you mean? The money spent making movie projects goes into wages, goes into industry. Goes into giving jobs to all the people in South Africa who worked on it.
>this shit is vanity projects that only line the pockets of upper class people.
What does this even mean? All film, TV, and videogame projects tend to be this.
>why don't marxists complain about all the wasted millions that go into making this shit. When it could feed poor people.
As if the locals in South Africa didn't receive payment for either working as extras or providing the catering.
It feels like they listened to criticism about the last RE film they made in South Africa because not only did nobody die, or get maimed in a stunt gone wrong, but they hired a bunch of South African people on the creative side. The composer Gregory Reveret is South African, for example. They wanted to make a distinctly South African version of RE.
New Raccoon City scenes are in South Africa. The 2036 scenes are in the UK because (so the grapevine says) they were originally gonna make a second TV show set in the Anderson universe, but repurposed ideas from it. Remember the posters for RE: Retribution with London, Moscow, New York, etc. in the background?
>So, uh... Capcom's claim is that they weren't dead. The T-Virus can't bring corpses back to life in the games. Actually, now that I remember, there's some note in the game that C-Virus can do whatever the frick Capcom want it to do so if you douse corpses in C-Virus gas they reanimate... somehow.
I'm compelled to autistically reply across threads. The c-virus is stated as being able to reanimate the dead and was a plot point in resident evil 6.
>The c-virus is stated as being able to reanimate the dead and was a plot point in resident evil 6.
Capcom never explained HOW a virus can reanimate corpses given the fanatical insistence that t-virus zombies never actually died but rather turned into mutants as fast as conveniently possible. A lot of the stuff around the C-Virus was kind of poorly thought out.
No. So basically when you're being bitten by zombies you're actually turning into a mutated creature faster than your wounds can kill you. That's the line Capcom have stuck with, too. They have suggested that the graves in Code Veronica were people who somehow got the t-virus and passed out, and turned into zombies while underground.
The RE film either didn't care, didn't know, or saw how stupid that was (it's something that's basically never mentioned in the games), and just said, "The virus creates electrical impulses and brings the dead back to life." But later films seemed to incorporate more of this idea.
The zombies in Welcome to Raccoon City are actually accurate to how they work in Capcom's games. People were slowly infected through the drinking water. But you never saw this in the games, which is some Rise of Skywalker infinite army of Sith Cultists shit.
What has paradoxically happened, I think, is that the writers on the show have studied the Wiki and interviews and stuff really closely. And they've taken pains to show that they paid close attention to Capcom's source material. The problem is that a lot of people don't understand that some things get changed on purpose because they suit the story better. For example, James Marcus having a daughter works for the story. But game fans will throw little tantrums because "It shows they didn't even play the games." It seems like a lose-lose situation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fact that they chose to go with (and acknowledge) Marcus AT ALL - let's not pretend like Zero is super popular or anything - should say a lot. I was legitimately expecting some kind of Leech Queen shenanigans.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Marcus was in the last Anderson movie where he had a daughter named Alicia who was the co-owner of the Umbrella Corporation.
Where it gets weird is that Evelyn Marcus in the show is a lot like Evie/Eveline in that she wants to keep her family together with this drug much like Evie using the mold. But Evie was similar to Alicia Marcus in that Alicia had a rapid aging disorder and appears in the film as an old woman despite being like 15-20 or something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I was thinking that while I watched as well how the names were similar and how family-focused Evelyn was. God, it really does frustrate me when I read shit like 'it's got nothing to do with Resident Evil'. There's so much in the show that's literally there for people familiar with the series. They had Lisa Trevor in there!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Unfortunately, the people who are most vocal about RE on the internet are often the most ill-informed, and often the most gate-keeping, and the most uninterested in following cookie crumbs of logic and connections and allusions and such. There are people who vocally think that RE games haven't been "real" RE games since 2002, and they bring that baggage to this project. It's immensely cringe watching youtubers trying to bandwagon on a show like this, because they clearly know NOTHING about the history of the RE series.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>straight, uninterrupted, honest convo on Cinemaphile like two scarf wearing yuppies
Gee, I dunno about them apples, Will!
Yeah I agree. That and the fact that the c-virus can leave you with your intelligence or just turn you into a zombie or turn you into a flesh cocoon which spawns a monster.
>The T-Virus can't bring corpses back to life in the games.
There's graveyards with zombies in at least two of the games, and one of them has zombies crawling out of them
That's the line from capcom and the t-virus explanation. Guess those dudes where infected before they were dead and buried. Don't blame me I'm just a messenger.
but you are basically dead if your body is rotting and your brain is dead. Its a fatal virus, so you are as good as a walking corpse.
>The T-Virus can't bring corpses back to life in the games.
There's graveyards with zombies in at least two of the games, and one of them has zombies crawling out of them
fits with the traditional cases of zombies being mistaken for deas and being buried "alive"
>but you are basically dead if your body is rotting and your brain is dead. Its a fatal virus, so you are as good as a walking corpse
It's the silly technicalities of it. You're not rotting per se as a person with the "Cannibal disease". You're a mutant with brain damage (actual lore). The t-virus further mutates you from this stage if you get "killed" (incapacitated since it's extremely hard to actually kill a t-virus zombie) as the virus mutates you further (crimson head).
>guess those dudes were infected
Guy was buried in 1986 and RE3 takes place 12 years after that. When/where did Capcom start saying the T-virus doesn't revive corpses?
>When/where did Capcom start saying the T-virus doesn't revive corpses?
I can't remember where I read it, but it's something the lead story guy on the RE series has always insisted on. There's a bunch of Japan-only interviews that have been translated over the years.
>it's something the lead story guy on the RE series has always insisted on. There's a bunch of Japan-only interviews that have been translated over the years.
Sometimes it seems like they just get bored and make stuff up much later for the hell of it. Apparently Jill is supposed to be half Japanese too, even though no game ever states this or portrays her as such.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Leon also looks suspiciously Japanese in RE:Degeneration
Capcom claim that those people didn't die. Also, Brad didn't die. He was... uh... zombified by a very fast acting strain before his wounds could kill him.
I could only watch up to the middle of the second episode. Up to that point, 80% of it was zoomer serious teenage drama with "how do you do fellow kids" writing. I liked the fact that it was a RE media by name only, it could be something different, but a teenage drama is not a good direction. The only redeemable scene is the Dua Lipa one, which I can't stop watching. So, all in all, it's complete unwatchable garbage, unless you are a 15-year-old girl obsessed with tiktok.
It's pretty good. I think it legitimately does just completely miss some people who are looking for a played-straight horror-romp. It's very much an affectionate parody of a lot of Resident Evil history, but there's a lot of damn good themes in there.
Something I guess a lot of people miss is that views that characters espouse in a show aren't just put out there in a vacuum. Jade and Billie aren't supported by the narrative or the people around them. Nobody congratulates them on their le epic schemes. They are never rewarded for the things they do or the way they act - they've got no friends, their home life sucks ass, nobody thinks what they're doing is right. We see Jade frick up over and over again with people dying as a consequence in the 'future' scenes (the one where she brings the fricking zombie on the boat is particularly heinous). She always has to do things her way, everything has to be about her, and her actions get a frickload of people killed. This is not EVER portrayed in a positive light. She gets routinely called out for being a selfish b***h - and this is made explicit by Evelyn (again, not a good person) talking about how all Weskers care about are themselves. And in that exact scene, their dad takes the blood and saves himself, because it's absolutely true. They only care about themselves.
Shit, Evelyn in general is a great character. She's portrayed as stereotypical 'alpha b***h', she cares about Simon, but she ruthlessly drugs her partner who was planning to leave and take Simon and wants to perfect Joy so she can have a 'happy family' without actually putting in any of the work. It's legitimately a strong critique of exactly that kind of 'alpha b***h' lifestyle, with the result being that her attitude towards people and her neglect has cost her any chance of healthy or stable relationships. Ain't exactly subtle.
I think that a lot of the online hate against the show flat-out doesn't understand the show. I saw a post on the subreddit where someone's entire argument was "Jade is worse than Umbrella, so this isn't Resident Evil because she would be a villain in an RE game." They did not understand the concept of a main character in Resident Evil that isn't a hero. Their whole mindset, framework of thought, was that if you're lead in RE, you're a good guy. Even if it seems you're a bad guy (see Chris) it has to be revealed that you're actually just pretending and had a heart of gold the entire time. It makes me realize that a lot of RE fans have a weird relationship with the series, and a weird relationship with fiction. I think these people would have experienced mental breakdowns if RE8 had revealed Chris had gone off his rocker and actually killed Mia.
There's a lot of that 'weird relationship with fiction'. We want to be able to root for a good guy, a clear and reasonably principled character who regrets their mistakes and tries to improve. Jade isn't that. If you were really inclined to dig into it, you could talk about trauma, life experiences, her need to 'make up' for causing the outbreak in the first place, survivor's guilt, etc. Those are all there in the show. But she doesn't 'overcome' anything. She never does better. There's that bit on the boat where she's finally back, she's got her husband and kid, yadda yadda - but she's not happy with that. She wants to get back to the lab. She skips out on the piano recital before it's finished to get back to the lab quicker. Her needs must always come first. Doesn't matter how other people think or feel, or how they might be hurt.
Y'know, just like Evelyn, the big nasty Umbrella executive. Jade is exactly what she claims to hate and fight against, just on a small, petty scale. The bad guys win by making you just like them. JUST LIKE HOW ZOMBIES INFECT PEOPLE. THAT'S THEMES, THAT IS.
One of the issues with RE is that there are way too many involved at the upper levels of the Umbrella Corporation. >Oswell. >Marcus >Wesker >Ashford
Adaptations have a tendency to trim this down somewhat.
You can tell the show is being watched by a lot of people because unlike, say, Metal Gear Survive you can actually talk about the story. It was so frustrating talking about Survive with people who clearly didn't even know about the nanomachine ruse cruise.
Way way worse than you even think.
I mean, the way most of these shows work nowadays including this, (wheel of time, watchmen, halo, etc.) is they take an existing bad, cheap script made by some diversity hire, then slap an existing IP on it and loosely tie it in, that's why everything actually related to the title of what you're watching is so sparse and jarring.
This literally isn't resident evil. It's some random, extremely bad CW scifi script titled "resident evil" this wasn't written to be resident evil in any way.
And all this isn't even including that they genuinely don't want to make good media, it's intentionally demoralizing and bad.
>I mean, the way most of these shows work nowadays including this, (wheel of time, watchmen, halo, etc.) is they take an existing bad, cheap script made by some diversity hire, then slap an existing IP on it and loosely tie it in
No. I've read the pitches for this show. It was written from the ground up as a TV show about the Wesker Sisters in New Raccoon City. There was no existing script. They hired Andrew Dabb to write this concept into reality. Then they took a second script, a Resident Evil Final Chapter spinoff (again, an RE project) and merged some ideas from it.
Do you know why the Halo show took so long to get made? Because writers kept adapting Halo and MS kept whining about "muh games". So the directors would quit because they wanted to make the adaptation THEIR way. It's why they were hired. I don't understand why people keep parroting something that is fundamentally untrue. Look at the original Resident Evil. It uses no characters from the original game, but it was written as an RE film by someone who played the original game and wrote a "ripoff" screenplay, then got the rights to the RE name, and used it.
>No. I've read the pitches for this show. It was written from the ground up as a TV show about the Wesker Sisters in New Raccoon City
Then why was there so much contemporary racial politics and tiktokking and nothing related to resident evil?
And Halo is 110% as I said, an unrelated script with Halo forced into it for brand recognition.
And the original resident evil movie is a good movie, who cares about muh source material and games and books and shit. If they wanna make "their own spin" on resident evil fine, as long as it's good (it's not).
Look at Godzilla for instance. Godzilla comes in many iterations throughout the franchise. Traditional dinosaur Godzilla, Shin Godzilla, that red mist Indian Destruction god Godzilla from singular point, all completely fine albeit completely different takes on a character. No one was pissed that it was different because it's good. Same with the original resident evil movie.
This Netflix thing whatever it's supposed to be is offensively bad garbage. Wesker could be the white guy who played him in the original films. It would still be complete and utter feces. And last thing >I read all the pitches for this show
Lmfao what does that even mean?
>And Halo is 110% as I said, an unrelated script with Halo forced into it for brand recognition.
No, it wasn't. That is just completely untrue. Their job was to adapt Halo, so they adapted Halo. The reason the District 9 guy ragequit Halo is MS weren't letting him adapt Halo (which of course would have had a South African allegory about racism in there because the assets from the Halo movie were used for a movie called District 9) and kept shoving game bullshit in this face. >Then why was there so much contemporary racial politics
Because it's a South African Resident Evil adaptation. Just because Capcom ignore the racist elephant in the room doesn't mean adaptations will. >Lmfao what does that even mean?
This show has been in development for a long time. We're talking 2014. They knew they were going to reboot when Anderson started work on Final Chapter. There's a whole thing with Sony and Constantin getting into a fight over some TV show they were making, which is why Netflix got this show instead of Sony. They wanted to make a movie and a TV show. The James Wan movie fell apart (something something RE7 sequel, something, something, time travel, something), and the TV show was pitched and written as a teenage show set in the 2020s about sisters Billie and Jade. The earliest whispers of this show had that concept. It was always the concept. It was the concept before they'd even written a script. They hired Dabb to write this concept into being.
>Then why was there so much contemporary racial politics >Because it's a South African Resident Evil adaptation
No one cares about your disingenuous shit, you wannabe silicon valley creep.
I might as well describe the shit I took by naming all the various weird shit I ate to make it look that way, who gives a frick.
Cape Town is not in California, you doofus. End of the day, RE adaptations in 2023 are going to be political. The new Silent Hill games are political. (Non-white protagonist, child abuse laws in Europe, etc.) The new Silent Hill film is political. (It's Silent Hill for 2023, not for 2006.) Stop getting triggered by racial politics in media. It's absurd.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Stop getting triggered by racial politics in media.
No? >It's absurd.
No it's not?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thank god for the never ending drama of identity politics. It'll never end, so we get to focus on it till the end of time because people are different.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's only drama when babies get triggered by absolutely milquetoast remarks. I think anon is literally seething because a character questions why there are only 5 black people in the entirety of New Raccoon City, South Africa. Besides you can't really make a show about drug abuse without every 100+ IQ person in the audience thinking about how often black people are prescribed drugs incorrectly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm actually glad there's plenty of racial politics and dissent in the resident evil show. The the themes of the games and original movies are too antisemitic for modern audiences with how toxic they are towards corporate entities who are really just our neighbors offering us reasonably priced products. Corporations are good and I'm glad the new resident evil reflects that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Corporations are good and I'm glad the new resident evil reflects that.
The entire show is an allegory for Prozac (which they namedrop just in case the audience is too stupid to get it) being sold despite them knowing it made people commit suicide. What the frick are you talking about you muppet?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>th-they mentioned prozac!!!!
And meanwhile the rest of the show is advocating for contemporary corporate politics and interests completely unrelated to resident evil.
Aren't the kids watching furry porn in this show? And the kids are b***hing about the existence of white people? Yeah cool, Black person furries who hate whites, I'm hooked already.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Aren't the kids watching furry porn in this show?
No, Jade makes some offensive remarks trying to cause problems. You clearly haven't seen the show. >And meanwhile the rest of the show is advocating for contemporary corporate politics and interests completely unrelated to resident evil.
Resident Evil: Extinction was a movie about Umbrella wanting to domesticate zombies to use them for cheap labour. How on earth are the corporate politics of RE unrelated to RE? It's like saying the politics in Star Wars are unrelated to Star WARS.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You clearly haven't seen the show.
Nope. Don't have to. One of my principles in life is to not watch media where the dialogue refers to "Zootopia porn" for any reason.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you just say words without knowing anything about them or what you're talking about?
Anon, that is golem behaviour. Little israeli Golem man flapping his gums.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, I just don't watch shows that feature dialogue about having sex with anthropomorphic animals from children's media. If that makes me a golem then La'Chiem lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon,taking things out of context is a israeli trick. Taking things out of context without having seen the context in the first place is a israeli golem move.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And the biggest israeli trick of all: child pornography.
I won't listen to such bile. To me, you're insane for using "well I WATCH furry porn media and I LIKE IT" as a flex lmfao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>To me, you're insane for using "well I WATCH furry porn media and I LIKE IT" as a flex lmfao
I don't understand how someone can miss the point of a scene that hardcore, then I remember you haven't actually seen the scene and are a frickwit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But there is no furry porn in the show. You're specifically taking it out of context (which the other anon explained to you) while never having actually seen the context and doubling down.
That is the move of someone with no thoughts of their own. Der Golem in other words.
Wh to the FRICK for any reason are they blabbing about porn of a kids movie for ANY REASON?
AND YOURE DEFENDING IT
LOL
keep going, the more of this insanity in the archives the better, you people are sick in the head
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wh to the FRICK for any reason are they blabbing about porn of a kids movie for ANY REASON?
To be offensive. The point of the scene is that Billie being offensive in public. Would you prefer she talked about being railed by BWC or something?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why not just say "HEY EVRYONE FRICK YOU" and why does the scene necessitate her being rude in public?
Where the frick are the zombies?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>HEY EVRYONE FRICK YOU
Because the only people going to find that rude are hardcore mormons.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And if I heard someone talking about Zootopia porn I would probably not say anything and be like "wtf" in my head but if someone was like HEY homosexual FRICK YOU AND have a nice day it would at least get my attention.
Zootopia porn... fricking lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's offended the frick out of at least one autist in this thread so it clearly works.
2 years ago
Anonymous
whatever you say, you pedo creep
2 years ago
Anonymous
But there is no furry porn in the show. You're specifically taking it out of context (which the other anon explained to you) while never having actually seen the context and doubling down.
That is the move of someone with no thoughts of their own. Der Golem in other words.
2 years ago
Anonymous
stop getting triggered when your identity politics trash you keep trying to force-feed us gets criticized and flops
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bear in mind, anon, the RE show hasn't flopped yet. There's still a solid chance it'll get enough viewer hours to get a renewal.
>who cares about muh source material and games and books and shit >REEEEEEEE THEY'RE JUST USING THE NAME >who gives a shit about the source material.
Anon, what the frick are you even talking about?
I'm saying something doesn't have to be a 1:1 of source material to be good. Same goes for something 1:1 to the source material can be good too.
Point is it just has to be good.
I often see people complaining about Lord of the rings saying "it's not like the source material!"
Who gives a frick. Rangs of power and resident evil aren't bad because they deviate from source material. They're bad because they're bad.
But the original Resi film wasn't particularly good either. It was a mediocre Aliens clone with the Resi name slapped on it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
..........................ok so I'm right. Thanks for responding.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In that case why adapt in the first place? If you're not even going to attempt the aesthetic, atmosphere or writing style of the series you're adapting then what are you even making?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure you're kind of right, but at the same time whatever who cares.
>Who gives a frick. Rangs of power and resident evil aren't bad because they deviate from source material. They're bad because they're bad.
Rings of Power isn't bad, though. The only people complaining about Rings of Power are people who say "woke" unironically.
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And the original Alien wasn't particularly good, either. And Aliens ruined the franchise. It was a naked cash grab, hence why Ridley Scott refuses to acknowledge anything in Alien, AvP, etc. happened.
>rings of power is good (not even out yet) >alien is bad
Are your corporate priests promising you an extra foreskin for dessert tonight or what?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then why do you care about this one?
Alien is a generic haunted house movie in space. It's a GOOD generic haunted house movie in space, but nothing special overall. Most movies that are classics are not actually particularly remarkable films on their own merits. We view them through a lens of nostalgia and consensus legitimacy.
Something can be a massive achievement in filmmaking without having to bring something new to the table. Se7en is another example. It does nothing new but it's fricking immaculate filmmaking.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alien isn't bad. It's just not particularly great.
In that case why adapt in the first place? If you're not even going to attempt the aesthetic, atmosphere or writing style of the series you're adapting then what are you even making?
Actually, the TV show is clearly borrowing the aesthetics, and some style from Anderson's movies. It's impossible to say that the Netflix show doesn't look like RE. It's too imitative of RE for that to be possible.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's impossible to say that the Netflix show doesn't look like RE. It's too imitative of RE for that to be possible.
Looks nothing like resident evil whatsoever. Looks like if stranger things was made by CW.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Looks nothing like resident evil whatsoever.
Yes, it does. Umbrella's use of brutalist architecture in the show for example is absolutely in the style of Anderson. Umbrella in the show looks like RE, talks like RE, and has the corporate fascism of RE. The future timeline scenes are clearly based on Resident Evil Final Chapter. The zombies are clearly based on Resident Evil Extinction. Within the first episode you have a caterpillar and rabbits, just like Alice in Wonderland. It's not as good as the movies, obviously, but it's clearly trying.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Umbrella's use of brutalist architecture
You mean LE SCARY WHITE SUBURBIA, OH NO, WHIIIIITES!!!!!!!
lmfao shut the Hell up dude
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You mean LE SCARY WHITE SUBURBIA
No, that's not brutalism. This is brutalism. Anderson used it in his films to convey the inhumanity of Umbrella. Notice how the walls of Umbrella's meeting room are concrete blocks? That's the naked truth of Umbrella underneath the pretty facade. Look through the TV show, and you'll constantly see exposed concrete, double height ceilings, and other brutalist motifs underpinning the Umbrella aesthetic. It's not as consistent as Anderson, but... Oh, also the suburban setting of the show is clearly based on Sundown Meadows from RE: Retribution, which was a reference to Sundown Towns, a place where racist white people would harass or kill any black person found after dark. The white people are metaphorically zombies in that context. Anderson, with his fixation of the fakeness of cinema reimagined Dawn of the Dead as a scripted play performed over and over by unwitting participants. The test environments in Retribution are one of the most fascinating pieces of meta filmmaking ever seen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And once again the look of the Anderson films isn't the look of Resident Evil.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's been doing this shit for few days now. Cherry-picking stuff from the series and comparing it to the shitty movies instead of games, like someone cares.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know, I've been in most of the threads. And I can't stop myself from being baited. This is my one weakness right here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Resident Evil = the films. Simple as that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nobody cares, shill. Not many care for the Mila films in the first place. And those who do, don't do it for their """""lore""""".
2 years ago
Anonymous
I hope for your sake this is pasta, this is embarrassing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pictured: the focus group who made the show sitting at an extremely boring table (in the dark, why because they're LE BAD) deciding on whether to talk about Zootopia porn or blue's clues porn
2 years ago
Anonymous
Notice how Evelyn Marcus's office has a naked concrete backdrop? This is a clever visual device borrowed from Anderson. Also the abstract figures and the alcohol are a clear reference to the office where Wesker hangs out in Resident Evil: The Final Chapter. (Where he's constantly crushing ice and making himself drinks.)
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are a top tier baitsman. This is genuinely aggravating.
2 years ago
Anonymous
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>You mean LE SCARY WHITE SUBURBIA
No, that's not brutalism. This is brutalism. Anderson used it in his films to convey the inhumanity of Umbrella. Notice how the walls of Umbrella's meeting room are concrete blocks? That's the naked truth of Umbrella underneath the pretty facade. Look through the TV show, and you'll constantly see exposed concrete, double height ceilings, and other brutalist motifs underpinning the Umbrella aesthetic. It's not as consistent as Anderson, but... Oh, also the suburban setting of the show is clearly based on Sundown Meadows from RE: Retribution, which was a reference to Sundown Towns, a place where racist white people would harass or kill any black person found after dark. The white people are metaphorically zombies in that context. Anderson, with his fixation of the fakeness of cinema reimagined Dawn of the Dead as a scripted play performed over and over by unwitting participants. The test environments in Retribution are one of the most fascinating pieces of meta filmmaking ever seen. # >Notice how Evelyn Marcus's office has a naked concrete backdrop?
It's because they filmed it cheaply in a parking garage, the desk is probably fricking CG lol
A clever visual device, you can't be for real
2 years ago
Anonymous
I suppose you think Equilibrium and Resident Evil both shooting scenes in the Bundestag U-bahn was a coincidence?
http://movie-locations.com/movies/e/Equilibrium.php
2 years ago
Anonymous
What's clever about it?
Also no corporate office ever, has had bear concrete
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What's clever about it?
The show manages to have its own look an feel while still being recognizably inspired by Anderson. It feels like it pays homage without being a cheap copycat, and people who don't like Anderson won't even notice it even as Umbrella smugly say, "Where our business is life itself," just like in ONE movie and ONE viral ad campaign from 2003.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Notice how Evelyn Marcus's office has a naked concrete backdrop? This is a clever visual device borrowed from Anderson. Also the abstract figures and the alcohol are a clear reference to the office where Wesker hangs out in Resident Evil: The Final Chapter. (Where he's constantly crushing ice and making himself drinks.)
2 years ago
Anonymous
But the movies never had the look of Resident Evil either. The only one that did was Welcome to Racoon City.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But the movies never had the look of Resident Evil either.
The films created the look of Resident Evil. They displaced the original games. Nobody thinks of the games when they think "Resident Evil theme song". They think of this.
The biggest mistake that game fans make is thinking that the games are Resident Evil in some exclusive or special way. They're just a version of Resident Evil.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They're just a version of Resident Evil.
They're the original media. The films are schlocky b-grade popcorn films with action scenes that look cool to kids who dress up in goth clothes and listen to Mushroomhead.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They're the original media.
And Fleming's books are the original media for James Bond. And the TV show is the original media for Mission Impossible. Doesn't mean much.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Difference is that Fleming's books and the MI series are long gone. When it comes to Anderson's films vs the games only Anderson's films are finished. The games are going stronger than ever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The games don't even resemble Resident Evil anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
They at least still follow the same overarching plot while having partially gone back to the gameplay style of the originals (7 with 1, 8 with 4). Anderson's films are just dead.
whatever you say, you pedo creep
Kek, the seethe from this guy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"I think dialogue regarding Zootopia porn is great writing and really improved the show."
When religious cultists are this deep into worshipping their corporate deities that they're defending sexualized animal shows for babies you know it's basically time for war. These literal killers need to be swinging from lamp posts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mate, you're arguing about something completely out of context WITHOUT HAVING SEEN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
You remind me of those mental comments you see on Fox News. Crazy boomer uncles who just scream in anger about shit without even knowing why they're angry.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No I'm not. Why is there dialogue about Zootopia porn in resident evil?
Oh right, because pedos made it and has nothing to do with resident evil.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Anderson's films are just dead
If this TV show doesn't get renewed they'll be announcing production on a new Milla Jovovich film by the end of the year.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They at least still follow the same overarching plot
It's gotten so abstract and thematically detatched that you'd forget they're supposed to take place in the same universe if a file didn't occasionally mention a familiar name.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>When it comes to Anderson's films vs the games only Anderson's films are finished.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Isn't Alice coming to Season 2 of the show? >The games are going stronger than ever.
Sure, but they'll never reach the level of cultural saturation the movies did. The RE games will always play second fiddle to the movies. Game Wesker will always be second fiddle to movie Wesker and possibly TV show Wesker.
2 years ago
Anonymous
lmao, I shouldn't keep falling for this bait but I can't help myself. My autism has been tickled.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That brings us back to the question of "why adapt the games if you're going to make something completely different?"
All Resident Evil offers them is the phrase "T-virus" and "Umbrella Corporation" (which is a joke name to begin with) that could be given any other name and it would make no difference in their end product.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That brings us back to the question of "why adapt the games if you're going to make something completely different?"
They're not adapting the games. They're rebooting the film franchise.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think the other anon was asking why the films bothered adapting the games when they're nothing alike either.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because there were ideas in Resident Evil that Paul W.S. Anderson thought could be turned into a good movie. The relationship between RE and the films is a bit like Starship Troopers or Total Recall, just less hostile. You take this universe, and its ideas, and you craft a whole new iconography, musical style, etc. It's like asking why Blade Runner is based on Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep if it uses only the barest sketches.
Because that was the job. The job was to adapt the book. And the way to adapt the book was to turn it into Blade Runner.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The difference is that all of these adaptions were crafted into top tier material which changed things for the medium of film. Anderson made a bunch of C-tier sci-fi action films that got laughably bad from the second one onwards.
The first one had a fricking tie-in Slipknot music video for christ sake.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The first one had a fricking tie-in Slipknot music video for christ sake.
Event Horizon had The Prodigy playing over The Credits. That's just Anderson for you. >The difference is that all of these adaptions were crafted into top tier material which changed things for the medium of film.
Blade Runner was a flop. Critics hated it. Let's not revise what happened. Anderson with films like Event Horizon, Death Race, Resident Evil, and AvP laid a shitload of ground work that other directors still imitate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What are all in avp was worth imitating? Don't tell me you're going to defend that too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What are all in avp was worth imitating?
Ridley Scott inexplicably made Prometheus, which is AvP but not good. AvP is also an example of how franchises collapse when Anderson leaves. Anderson leaves Mortal Kombat, second film is a disaster and series dies. Anderson leaves AvP, second film is a disaster and series dies. Anderson leaves Resident Evil. Welcome to Raccoon City flops. If the show gets cancelled, the curse continues. Because Anderson is this genius auteur, when he leaves you're fricked. He has the answers. He has the magic. They don't want to crawl back to him, but they will. They will kneel at his feet and ask, "Master Anderson, please tells us what do. Please grand us audience with your beautiful wife Milla."
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ok I get it you're not a dedicated school for the show you just obsessively worship Anderson, that's not so bad.
Yet fanboy that you are, you've got to admit that Prometheus had a way better soundtrack, was visually stunning, and that in avp when predator and survival lady get back out someone in your theater yelled "kiss" because of how dumb it was they were working together.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>and that in avp when predator and survival lady get back out someone in your theater yelled "kiss" because of how dumb it was they were working together.
Why was it dumb? Predators and non-white people working together or at least respecting each other is a time honored tradition. Predator 2, AvP, and now Prey with the Native American lady.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prey is pretty clearly riffing on the "strong independent woman teams up with the Predator" vibes of AvP, which is awesome to see.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Death Race >AvP
You're fricking drooling.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Death Race is interesting because it was heavily influential on Mad Max Fury Road. The filmmaking shift between Road Warrior and Fury Road is extreme. With Death Race Anderson redefined fast paced vehicular combat. It seems like a given that the new Predator movie with the girl protagonist will be cribbing from AvP.
There's this cute pattern where Anderson copies someone, that someone copies Anderson, and then Anderson copies them back. Like Snyder, and also George Miller. So Anderson loved Mad Max. So he imitates Mad Max. Then George Miller imitates Death Race. Then Anderson puts a Fury Road reference in Monster Hunter, with the scene where they drive into the storm.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
The difference is that all of these adaptions were crafted into top tier material which changed things for the medium of film. Anderson made a bunch of C-tier sci-fi action films that got laughably bad from the second one onwards.
The first one had a fricking tie-in Slipknot music video for christ sake.
And I say that as someone who quite likes the films. But I'm well aware of how terrible they are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anderson played RE1, and wrote a movie based on the ideas of RE1. That's how the movie got made. He told the studio that if they didn't like his screenplay he'd take the RE name off and get it made at another company.
>Who gives a frick. Rangs of power and resident evil aren't bad because they deviate from source material. They're bad because they're bad.
Rings of Power isn't bad, though. The only people complaining about Rings of Power are people who say "woke" unironically.
But the original Resi film wasn't particularly good either. It was a mediocre Aliens clone with the Resi name slapped on it.
And the original Alien wasn't particularly good, either. And Aliens ruined the franchise. It was a naked cash grab, hence why Ridley Scott refuses to acknowledge anything in Alien, AvP, etc. happened.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And the original Alien wasn't particularly good, either
Now that is contrarianism to the extreme. Alien is a fricking masterpiece of filmmaking.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alien is a generic haunted house movie in space. It's a GOOD generic haunted house movie in space, but nothing special overall. Most movies that are classics are not actually particularly remarkable films on their own merits. We view them through a lens of nostalgia and consensus legitimacy.
What do you mean? What specific part of the scene is unrelated to Resident Evil? Evelyn Marcus doesn't have control of her body anymore, and Billie Wesker makes Marcus dance involuntarily for her own amusement, and to prove a point. Where is the problem supposed to be?
.....how about, hmmmmmm, she turns into a fricking zombie or something? ANYTHING? it's fricking RESIDENT. EVIL. instead we get an ad for TikTok and you're online defending it.
Literal corporate pedophile drone religious cultist whacko.
>.....how about, hmmmmmm, she turns into a fricking zombie or something?
It kinda sounds like you haven't seen the show. Do you not know what Joy does? >instead we get an ad for TikTok
What are you talking about?
>It kinda sounds like you haven't seen the show.
You're God damn right. I come on Cinemaphile to have fun making fun of the webms and arguing. You think I want these ugly images and messages beamed into my brain? I'm all fricking set. Enjoy your Zootopia porn with the trademarked title of "resident evil"
I hated the first episode but I'm about halfway though it now and it's starting to grow on me. It really feels like something that would've been on the CW a few years ago.
It's bad friend. I pushed myself to get through 7 episodes. I'm 1episode from finishing, but I'm done. I needed closure to that dance scene and now I have it. I will now go back to 2002 and tell myself to be grateful. When I saw that first movie, I said they could've just called that by a different title. But this takes the cake.
>Wh to the FRICK for any reason are they blabbing about porn of a kids movie for ANY REASON?
AND YOURE DEFENDING IT
LOL
keep going, the more of this insanity in the archives the better, you people are sick in the head
So the shills's tactic with this one is literally. >No, it's not!
And sometimes >But there was that one thing in that one game once and it's kinda similar to this one thing from the Netflix series (not really), so that means the show is great!
This is embarrassing.
So is the blind shill in the thread talking about personally reading the early, thrown out scripts for this project and knowing in detail what everyone involved in the project did behind the scenes from the very start, and hasn't provided any proof, and no ones called him out on it? Whats wrong with you people, honestly. >dude it was always a RE series by people who loved and played RE and made an RE scipt and they hired the director and actors and writers to fill their RE series dreams
proofs?
People went to see six movies in 14 years making those movies more successful than any competing franchise... ironically or something. There could be 20 successful Resident Evil movies and they'd still clutch at straws trying to claim that "Nobody actually thinks they're good" and "Everyone's laughing at them. That's why everyone refused to go see 28 Weeks Later and went to go see Resident Evil Extinction instead. For a laugh."
>That's why everyone refused to go see 28 Weeks Later and went to go see Resident Evil Extinction instead. For a laugh
I remember the people buying tickets for it being mostly white trash and mexicans who just want to hear the latest loud explosion movie
>Albert Wesker played by lance reddick
ok... proceed carefully but ok... >he's a massive nerd and uses "Spock21" as his password
FRICK YOU YOU MOTHERLESS c**tS
Shawn Roberts's Wesker has gay BDSM energy, and I am there for it. There's a rumour Anderson wanted to make Chris gay, and that would have been awesome to see.
Does Paul WS Anderson pay a bunch of people to big him up on Cinemaphile or does he have a bunch of unironic fans who consider him a genius? This is some of the most bizarre shit I've ever seen.
Don't bother with this thread, there are 2 tards 69ing each other defending this shit for some reason. I hope they get paid because otherwise it's really pathetic
Not as cool as the poster
Everyone talks like a zoomer high-school caricature, even the adults
DID A FULL 180
CRAZY
first episode is very good
not bad tbqhwy
fricking have a nice day
you first
it's the worst thing i've seen all year, and i watch a lot of trash
The director said it's literally canon with the games...but Wesker is black? I'm confuzzled.
He doesn't know what canon means
He means that the game timeline is (mostly) canon in the show, not the film timeline. The only people confused about this are game fans. "Is this a sequel to RE Final Chapter?" normal people wonder. "It looks an awful like Final Chapter, if Final Chapter had no personality." No, says the showrunner. "The games are our canon." Raccoon blew up in 1998, not in like 2004. Wesker died in 2009, not in 2012.
It's canon with the games in terms of plot. This is as stupid as saying, "The director said it's literally canon with the games...but Wesker isn't a CGI character?" Don't be a moron.
Your logic is fricking stupid, shill.
What were they thinking with the wig?
My logical is perfectly sound, as evident by your lack of a counter-argument.
I would say it has like 30 minutes OK zombie/moster stuff. Rest is borring shit (especially the stuff with young sisters).
It's a 7/10. Clearly had some creative disagreements, since the show visibly shifts direction after Episode 4. The people who hate it tend to hate it for political reasons or because they don't like that it's an RE TV show about mixed race teenage girls. The 1/10 reviews people were spamming were complete nonsense.
>or because they don't like that it's an RE TV show about mixed race teenage girls
surprising people would hate what literally nobody wants to see
Speak for yourself, anon.
I'm a mixed race teen girl who's not a big fan of RE and I still fricking hated it
No you aren’t
I'm bipoc btw and i hated it too. I hate seeing things that were part of my growing up get ruined by bunch of landwhales with colored hair living in genetic experiment of a country.
What didn't you like about the show, mixed-race anon?
Umbrella is now Goop.
Why can't they just make something reminiscent of the games?
They made those CG movies and nobody watched them. They made Welcome to Raccoon City, which was basically adapting RE1/2 remake, and nobody watched that, either. Meanwhile the live action movies significantly reinvented Resident Evil to great success.
The Paul Anderson movies were popular as their own thing. They're popcorn flicks with lots of action.
Nobody so far has tried to adapt the games into something slow-paced with a focus on atmosphere and mystery. The games are supposed to be dark, isolated, dirty, eerie, and suspenseful, but whenever someone adapts it, they make it a bright-lit, straightforward buddy sci-fi action movie
>Nobody so far has tried to adapt the games into something slow-paced with a focus on atmosphere and mystery.
That's literally what Welcome to Raccoon City was. Also...
>The games are supposed to be dark, isolated, dirty, eerie, and suspenseful
Most RE games are not this at all. Especially not after RE4. RE Village is a straight up action game that has more in common with the Van Helsing movie from 2004 than anything else.
>Most RE games are not this at all. Especially not after RE4
4+ are not Resident Evil games
I'm sorry, but that's moronic. And it's a ridiculous hill to attempt to die on.
It's less moronic than you'd think. 1-3, 4-6, and 7+8 have virtually nothing to do with each other in terms of gameplay, lore, themes, or aesthetics. They're different trilogies of games that share a common name, the name popularized by the original series.
That's how franchises work, anon. People tried to claim that RE2 wasn't a real RE game back in 1998 because it didn't have any characters from the first game and had nothing substantial to do with the story from the first game.
> People tried to claim that RE2 wasn't a real RE game back in 1998 because it didn't have any characters from the first game
What people?
>had nothing substantial to do with the story from the first game.
It's about a second virus outbreak now in the city, takes place in the police precinct where S.T.A.R.S. are headquartered, stars Chris Redfield's sister, and explains that that the survivors from the first game fled to Europe for safety before the virus broke out. Nobody could consider it tangential.
>It's about a second virus outbreak now in the city, takes place in the police precinct where S.T.A.R.S. are headquartered, stars Chris Redfield's sister, and explains that that the survivors from the first game fled to Europe for safety before the virus broke out. Nobody could consider it tangential.
Literally all those things equally apply to this TV show, though.
Yeah, it's trying to follow the story of the game, but it doesn't attempt the style or atmosphere.
RE2's style and atmosphere are nothing like RE1.
One takes place in a dark, abandoned mansion that could double as an art museum, the other takes place in a dark, abandoned police building that could double as an art museum. In both games characters are exploring rooms on their own, looking for clues and objects to solve elaborate and bizarre puzzles often involving art and poetry, reading notes usually left by recently deceased people to get more plot details, and every so often, you meet and briefly interact with another character but are otherwise alone. Action is usually relegated to brief, tense "jump scare" moments rather than long sequences. The music, the framing of the camera angles, the creature designs, etc are comparable.
They're a very similar style of game, very similar themes and atmosphere. 3 is as well, although that has more action (and coincidentally was intended to be a side game). So is Code Veronica.
Hell, they're so similar that one of the excuses people make for the vastly different direction of 4 is that the series was "stagnating" and needed a major change.
>the other takes place in a dark, abandoned police building
The police station is brightly lit.
>In both games characters are exploring rooms on their own, looking for clues and objects to solve elaborate and bizarre puzzles often involving art and poetry, reading notes usually left by recently deceased people to get more plot details, and every so often, you meet and briefly interact with another character but are otherwise alone. Action is usually relegated to brief, tense "jump scare" moments rather than long sequences.
That's basically just Alone in the Dark, though.
>The music, the framing of the camera angles, the creature designs, etc are comparable.
Actually, the monsters are super different. The art direction is very different. The music is a different style. It reminds me of SH2, which Japanese fans hated because of the art design, monsters, music, plot, etc. having nothing to do with the first game.
>Hell, they're so similar that one of the excuses people make for the vastly different direction of 4 is that the series was stagnating" and needed a major change.
That was to do with the game design more than anything else.
>The police station is brightly lit.
Oh come on. It's dreary, messy, isolating, and foreboding. Even the echo of your footsteps give a sense of dread, and any "brightly lit" area" is no more "brightly lit" than some areas of RE1. Hell, the main hall of the RPD is darker than the main hall of the Spencer Mansion.
>That's basically just Alone in the Dark, though.
Another good game series, although that one's about Lovecraftian monsters and voodoo. Is there a further point you wanted to make here though?
>Actually, the monsters are super different. The art direction is very different. The music is a different style.
Elaborate on this.
Musically basically all the RE games feel very different. I'm not a musician so I can't put my finger on it, but there's a reason RE never had a theme song, for example. It never had a concrete musical identity that carries across games. The save room themes tend to follow a certain feel, but everything is largely just "Overworked Japanese videogame composer" stuff. RE1 was a lot more bombastic in places, and I think that was the product of the tone. There's also the director's cut soundtrack which is very weird.
Here's the main hall themes of RE1 and RE2
You don't think there's any kind of similarity between them as dark, atmospheric tracks?
RE2's is in a wildly different musical style. RE1's hall theme almost has no melody at all.
Anon, it even starts with nearly the same notes. Not only should you be able to tell a clear stylistic similarity between the two games, but you're also trying to convince me, while arguing that 1 and 2 are nothing alike, that 2 is just like the live-action movies and TV show, and (or to another poster) that 1, 2, and 3 are just like 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. This is madness.
Having the same notes doesn't mean the same musical style. Resident Evil Extinction has the same theme song as the original RE film, but due to the new composer it sounds nothing like the old movie. They completely ditched the old metal/Manson direction.
Alright, we'll ignore everything else and hinge everything on this tangent about the soundtracks.
What separate styles would you put those two songs in and what do you think they're meant to induce in terms of mood?
The first game is trying to evoke horror in a very bombastic way, clearly taking a lot of influence from AitD's rather... screechy soundtrack. RE2's soundtrack is trying to be more moody and melodic. They are trying to evoke horror, but the setting of the horror, and the context of the horror are very different. RE1 is about intimate spaces. RE2 is about a city on fire.
>They are trying to evoke horror, but the setting of the horror, and the context of the horror are very different
They're more similar to each other than they are to other tracks in their own games.
Here's another example
You can't hear any similarity? It's like Slayer and Michael Jackson to your ears?
And then here's the music from Welcome to Raccoon City
What RE track does that sound like?
Or its RPD music
Sound like the one I posted from RE2?
I watched all the cg movies and I absolutely loved them, as campy as they were.
I watched the CG movies, too, and they're fun, but they are no popular. They're like the Final Fantasy CG movies in that they don't have any appeal to non-game-fans. Wheras a good adaptation should be appealing to people who don't care about the source material, and ideally it should even win over people who dislike the source material.
>CG movies and nobody watched them
I watched them and I own them
>They made Welcome to Raccoon City, which was basically adapting RE1/2 remake, and nobody watched that, either
Why would they? They couldn't even make any of the characters except Claire look like how they are supposed to. Don't pretend that it was an authentic take. Someone in the production wanted it to be, but it was obviously sabotaged by executives forcing bad casting and changes.
>They couldn't even make any of the characters except Claire look like how they are supposed to.
All RE projects will have casting like WTRC going forward. The sooner you accept it, the better.
>The sooner you accept it, the better.
Frick no, I'll never accept it. I'm watching South Korean and Chinese movies now. Western shitty garbage media is not the only game in town.
South Korean films have been fantastic since the early 00s. Chinese even earlier. The fact you're only watching them now tells me you're not really in it for the quality of the media rather it's all a political thing for you.
I didn't just start watching them now. It's just now that I barely watch any new Western shows. American media is in steep, steep decline of quality. It's absolute garbage and not worth watching.
South Korean movies regularly race swap non-Korean protagonists to make them Korean.
The CG movies are trying to emulate the Anderson movies at parts Leon takes shots from Tyrants and shrugs it like nothing. They are non-stop crazy action.
WtRC was a RE1 and RE2 shoved in the same movie with a short run time and nearly no budget, its budget is 25 millions, the first RE movie had a budget of 33 millions back in 2002.
So far there has been no real attempt at replicating the games.
If it is intentionally different enough from the original IP they might get away with paying royalties to the IP Holders
Resident Evil 1 is so beautiful game. I just played it for the first time last year. Always thought RE was some kind of zombie shooter, poor predecessor to SH. But it turned out to be a beautiful and scary quest.
Have you played Resident Evil 0? It's not nearly as good of a game as the RE1 remake, but the graphics and atmosphere are great
Welcome to Racoon City was a pretty faithful adaption but everyone just screamed about pajeet Leon and didn't actually watch the thing.
It's pretty good actually and Leon's the best part of it.
>Welcome to Racoon City was a pretty faithful adaption
>faithful
Why do you fricking constantly lie about this movie? Oh right, you're just another fricking shill.
>he thinks a movie that came out almost a year ago is being shilled
moron
and yeah it's more faithful than any of the other adaptations
It is actually faithful though. It got the setting down pat, the characters were changed slightly but characters were never really a strong point of the series anyway.
You're not jus moaning about the race swaps are you? You probably have some legit complaints which I'd love to talk about but if it's "muh white genocide" shit I'm just going to laugh in your face.
Why did they make Wesker a good guy?
are you joking? What the frick
is it shitter than Welcome to RaCoon city?
That was mega shit.
Unwatchable shit.CW show with zombies and dumb creatures. Most show are shit anyways. If you can't complete a story in two hours you are telling it wrong and putting bullshit that doesn't belong.
Best part is it mentions Wesker dying in a volcano.
I don't know why they made their main character an unlikeable, cowardly c**t.
And to think I actually had a microgram of enthusiasm about this trash
why don't marxists complain about all the wasted millions that go into making this shit. When it could feed poor people.
What do you mean? The money spent making movie projects goes into wages, goes into industry. Goes into giving jobs to all the people in South Africa who worked on it.
this shit is vanity projects that only line the pockets of upper class people.
Its objectively a waste of money.
>this shit is vanity projects that only line the pockets of upper class people.
What does this even mean? All film, TV, and videogame projects tend to be this.
its an accounting scam they are making garbage on purpose and pocketing the cash.
The show is pretty good, though, so that seem like a bad plan.
>The show is good
Fricking have a nice day dude. Jesus Christ the state of this board
>why don't marxists complain about all the wasted millions that go into making this shit. When it could feed poor people.
As if the locals in South Africa didn't receive payment for either working as extras or providing the catering.
It feels like they listened to criticism about the last RE film they made in South Africa because not only did nobody die, or get maimed in a stunt gone wrong, but they hired a bunch of South African people on the creative side. The composer Gregory Reveret is South African, for example. They wanted to make a distinctly South African version of RE.
Why did they make it take place in Europe then
>then
*than
*then
They're*
New Raccoon City scenes are in South Africa. The 2036 scenes are in the UK because (so the grapevine says) they were originally gonna make a second TV show set in the Anderson universe, but repurposed ideas from it. Remember the posters for RE: Retribution with London, Moscow, New York, etc. in the background?
The word "bad" is ashamed to be associated with this shit.
>So, uh... Capcom's claim is that they weren't dead. The T-Virus can't bring corpses back to life in the games. Actually, now that I remember, there's some note in the game that C-Virus can do whatever the frick Capcom want it to do so if you douse corpses in C-Virus gas they reanimate... somehow.
I'm compelled to autistically reply across threads. The c-virus is stated as being able to reanimate the dead and was a plot point in resident evil 6.
>The c-virus is stated as being able to reanimate the dead and was a plot point in resident evil 6.
Capcom never explained HOW a virus can reanimate corpses given the fanatical insistence that t-virus zombies never actually died but rather turned into mutants as fast as conveniently possible. A lot of the stuff around the C-Virus was kind of poorly thought out.
is that true? i thought the t virus technically killed people, their flesh is necrotic and their brain dead.
No. So basically when you're being bitten by zombies you're actually turning into a mutated creature faster than your wounds can kill you. That's the line Capcom have stuck with, too. They have suggested that the graves in Code Veronica were people who somehow got the t-virus and passed out, and turned into zombies while underground.
The RE film either didn't care, didn't know, or saw how stupid that was (it's something that's basically never mentioned in the games), and just said, "The virus creates electrical impulses and brings the dead back to life." But later films seemed to incorporate more of this idea.
The zombies in Welcome to Raccoon City are actually accurate to how they work in Capcom's games. People were slowly infected through the drinking water. But you never saw this in the games, which is some Rise of Skywalker infinite army of Sith Cultists shit.
In the show Jade mentions the virus doesn't bring back the dead too. I always assumed it first kills then brings them back.
What has paradoxically happened, I think, is that the writers on the show have studied the Wiki and interviews and stuff really closely. And they've taken pains to show that they paid close attention to Capcom's source material. The problem is that a lot of people don't understand that some things get changed on purpose because they suit the story better. For example, James Marcus having a daughter works for the story. But game fans will throw little tantrums because "It shows they didn't even play the games." It seems like a lose-lose situation.
The fact that they chose to go with (and acknowledge) Marcus AT ALL - let's not pretend like Zero is super popular or anything - should say a lot. I was legitimately expecting some kind of Leech Queen shenanigans.
Marcus was in the last Anderson movie where he had a daughter named Alicia who was the co-owner of the Umbrella Corporation.
Where it gets weird is that Evelyn Marcus in the show is a lot like Evie/Eveline in that she wants to keep her family together with this drug much like Evie using the mold. But Evie was similar to Alicia Marcus in that Alicia had a rapid aging disorder and appears in the film as an old woman despite being like 15-20 or something.
Yeah, I was thinking that while I watched as well how the names were similar and how family-focused Evelyn was. God, it really does frustrate me when I read shit like 'it's got nothing to do with Resident Evil'. There's so much in the show that's literally there for people familiar with the series. They had Lisa Trevor in there!
Unfortunately, the people who are most vocal about RE on the internet are often the most ill-informed, and often the most gate-keeping, and the most uninterested in following cookie crumbs of logic and connections and allusions and such. There are people who vocally think that RE games haven't been "real" RE games since 2002, and they bring that baggage to this project. It's immensely cringe watching youtubers trying to bandwagon on a show like this, because they clearly know NOTHING about the history of the RE series.
>straight, uninterrupted, honest convo on Cinemaphile like two scarf wearing yuppies
Gee, I dunno about them apples, Will!
Yeah I agree. That and the fact that the c-virus can leave you with your intelligence or just turn you into a zombie or turn you into a flesh cocoon which spawns a monster.
>The T-Virus can't bring corpses back to life in the games.
There's graveyards with zombies in at least two of the games, and one of them has zombies crawling out of them
That's the line from capcom and the t-virus explanation. Guess those dudes where infected before they were dead and buried. Don't blame me I'm just a messenger.
but you are basically dead if your body is rotting and your brain is dead. Its a fatal virus, so you are as good as a walking corpse.
fits with the traditional cases of zombies being mistaken for deas and being buried "alive"
>but you are basically dead if your body is rotting and your brain is dead. Its a fatal virus, so you are as good as a walking corpse
It's the silly technicalities of it. You're not rotting per se as a person with the "Cannibal disease". You're a mutant with brain damage (actual lore). The t-virus further mutates you from this stage if you get "killed" (incapacitated since it's extremely hard to actually kill a t-virus zombie) as the virus mutates you further (crimson head).
>guess those dudes were infected
Guy was buried in 1986 and RE3 takes place 12 years after that. When/where did Capcom start saying the T-virus doesn't revive corpses?
>When/where did Capcom start saying the T-virus doesn't revive corpses?
I can't remember where I read it, but it's something the lead story guy on the RE series has always insisted on. There's a bunch of Japan-only interviews that have been translated over the years.
>it's something the lead story guy on the RE series has always insisted on. There's a bunch of Japan-only interviews that have been translated over the years.
Sometimes it seems like they just get bored and make stuff up much later for the hell of it. Apparently Jill is supposed to be half Japanese too, even though no game ever states this or portrays her as such.
Leon also looks suspiciously Japanese in RE:Degeneration
If you read the wiki it also states it there. Yeah it's silly but what you gonna do.
Capcom claim that those people didn't die. Also, Brad didn't die. He was... uh... zombified by a very fast acting strain before his wounds could kill him.
One of the episodes has a scene where a woman starts singing.
I fast forwarded through that
Why? It's literally the only good part of the entire show
Wait I got confused because I am an old man. I fast forwarded the piano recital.
Unironically, why do they scapegoat us so much? Redditors are objectively more deranged, we're actually not that terrible
don't get too carried away this place is swarming with trash
That includes (you)
What do you mean by "scapegoat"? They're saying that only people on Cinemaphile will believe the truth.
Because that's cope. Reddit is full of normies, this place is full of potential school shooters.
what the fricking christ
this can't be real
Why would the l33t hacker kid be popular by downloading anime
I could only watch up to the middle of the second episode. Up to that point, 80% of it was zoomer serious teenage drama with "how do you do fellow kids" writing. I liked the fact that it was a RE media by name only, it could be something different, but a teenage drama is not a good direction. The only redeemable scene is the Dua Lipa one, which I can't stop watching. So, all in all, it's complete unwatchable garbage, unless you are a 15-year-old girl obsessed with tiktok.
It's pretty good. I think it legitimately does just completely miss some people who are looking for a played-straight horror-romp. It's very much an affectionate parody of a lot of Resident Evil history, but there's a lot of damn good themes in there.
Something I guess a lot of people miss is that views that characters espouse in a show aren't just put out there in a vacuum. Jade and Billie aren't supported by the narrative or the people around them. Nobody congratulates them on their le epic schemes. They are never rewarded for the things they do or the way they act - they've got no friends, their home life sucks ass, nobody thinks what they're doing is right. We see Jade frick up over and over again with people dying as a consequence in the 'future' scenes (the one where she brings the fricking zombie on the boat is particularly heinous). She always has to do things her way, everything has to be about her, and her actions get a frickload of people killed. This is not EVER portrayed in a positive light. She gets routinely called out for being a selfish b***h - and this is made explicit by Evelyn (again, not a good person) talking about how all Weskers care about are themselves. And in that exact scene, their dad takes the blood and saves himself, because it's absolutely true. They only care about themselves.
Shit, Evelyn in general is a great character. She's portrayed as stereotypical 'alpha b***h', she cares about Simon, but she ruthlessly drugs her partner who was planning to leave and take Simon and wants to perfect Joy so she can have a 'happy family' without actually putting in any of the work. It's legitimately a strong critique of exactly that kind of 'alpha b***h' lifestyle, with the result being that her attitude towards people and her neglect has cost her any chance of healthy or stable relationships. Ain't exactly subtle.
I agree with you 100% and also not from America and likes to watch garbage shows. Do you also like Riverdale?
I think that a lot of the online hate against the show flat-out doesn't understand the show. I saw a post on the subreddit where someone's entire argument was "Jade is worse than Umbrella, so this isn't Resident Evil because she would be a villain in an RE game." They did not understand the concept of a main character in Resident Evil that isn't a hero. Their whole mindset, framework of thought, was that if you're lead in RE, you're a good guy. Even if it seems you're a bad guy (see Chris) it has to be revealed that you're actually just pretending and had a heart of gold the entire time. It makes me realize that a lot of RE fans have a weird relationship with the series, and a weird relationship with fiction. I think these people would have experienced mental breakdowns if RE8 had revealed Chris had gone off his rocker and actually killed Mia.
There's a lot of that 'weird relationship with fiction'. We want to be able to root for a good guy, a clear and reasonably principled character who regrets their mistakes and tries to improve. Jade isn't that. If you were really inclined to dig into it, you could talk about trauma, life experiences, her need to 'make up' for causing the outbreak in the first place, survivor's guilt, etc. Those are all there in the show. But she doesn't 'overcome' anything. She never does better. There's that bit on the boat where she's finally back, she's got her husband and kid, yadda yadda - but she's not happy with that. She wants to get back to the lab. She skips out on the piano recital before it's finished to get back to the lab quicker. Her needs must always come first. Doesn't matter how other people think or feel, or how they might be hurt.
Y'know, just like Evelyn, the big nasty Umbrella executive. Jade is exactly what she claims to hate and fight against, just on a small, petty scale. The bad guys win by making you just like them. JUST LIKE HOW ZOMBIES INFECT PEOPLE. THAT'S THEMES, THAT IS.
One of the issues with RE is that there are way too many involved at the upper levels of the Umbrella Corporation.
>Oswell.
>Marcus
>Wesker
>Ashford
Adaptations have a tendency to trim this down somewhat.
I appreciated the scene with the safe room with the typewriter, as corny as it is
The people in here saying the show was good are shills and should kill themselves
You can tell the show is being watched by a lot of people because unlike, say, Metal Gear Survive you can actually talk about the story. It was so frustrating talking about Survive with people who clearly didn't even know about the nanomachine ruse cruise.
Older Billie Wesker is so cute, bros
Way way worse than you even think.
I mean, the way most of these shows work nowadays including this, (wheel of time, watchmen, halo, etc.) is they take an existing bad, cheap script made by some diversity hire, then slap an existing IP on it and loosely tie it in, that's why everything actually related to the title of what you're watching is so sparse and jarring.
This literally isn't resident evil. It's some random, extremely bad CW scifi script titled "resident evil" this wasn't written to be resident evil in any way.
And all this isn't even including that they genuinely don't want to make good media, it's intentionally demoralizing and bad.
>I mean, the way most of these shows work nowadays including this, (wheel of time, watchmen, halo, etc.) is they take an existing bad, cheap script made by some diversity hire, then slap an existing IP on it and loosely tie it in
No. I've read the pitches for this show. It was written from the ground up as a TV show about the Wesker Sisters in New Raccoon City. There was no existing script. They hired Andrew Dabb to write this concept into reality. Then they took a second script, a Resident Evil Final Chapter spinoff (again, an RE project) and merged some ideas from it.
Do you know why the Halo show took so long to get made? Because writers kept adapting Halo and MS kept whining about "muh games". So the directors would quit because they wanted to make the adaptation THEIR way. It's why they were hired. I don't understand why people keep parroting something that is fundamentally untrue. Look at the original Resident Evil. It uses no characters from the original game, but it was written as an RE film by someone who played the original game and wrote a "ripoff" screenplay, then got the rights to the RE name, and used it.
>No. I've read the pitches for this show. It was written from the ground up as a TV show about the Wesker Sisters in New Raccoon City
Then why was there so much contemporary racial politics and tiktokking and nothing related to resident evil?
And Halo is 110% as I said, an unrelated script with Halo forced into it for brand recognition.
And the original resident evil movie is a good movie, who cares about muh source material and games and books and shit. If they wanna make "their own spin" on resident evil fine, as long as it's good (it's not).
Look at Godzilla for instance. Godzilla comes in many iterations throughout the franchise. Traditional dinosaur Godzilla, Shin Godzilla, that red mist Indian Destruction god Godzilla from singular point, all completely fine albeit completely different takes on a character. No one was pissed that it was different because it's good. Same with the original resident evil movie.
This Netflix thing whatever it's supposed to be is offensively bad garbage. Wesker could be the white guy who played him in the original films. It would still be complete and utter feces. And last thing
>I read all the pitches for this show
Lmfao what does that even mean?
>And Halo is 110% as I said, an unrelated script with Halo forced into it for brand recognition.
No, it wasn't. That is just completely untrue. Their job was to adapt Halo, so they adapted Halo. The reason the District 9 guy ragequit Halo is MS weren't letting him adapt Halo (which of course would have had a South African allegory about racism in there because the assets from the Halo movie were used for a movie called District 9) and kept shoving game bullshit in this face.
>Then why was there so much contemporary racial politics
Because it's a South African Resident Evil adaptation. Just because Capcom ignore the racist elephant in the room doesn't mean adaptations will.
>Lmfao what does that even mean?
This show has been in development for a long time. We're talking 2014. They knew they were going to reboot when Anderson started work on Final Chapter. There's a whole thing with Sony and Constantin getting into a fight over some TV show they were making, which is why Netflix got this show instead of Sony. They wanted to make a movie and a TV show. The James Wan movie fell apart (something something RE7 sequel, something, something, time travel, something), and the TV show was pitched and written as a teenage show set in the 2020s about sisters Billie and Jade. The earliest whispers of this show had that concept. It was always the concept. It was the concept before they'd even written a script. They hired Dabb to write this concept into being.
>Then why was there so much contemporary racial politics
>Because it's a South African Resident Evil adaptation
No one cares about your disingenuous shit, you wannabe silicon valley creep.
I might as well describe the shit I took by naming all the various weird shit I ate to make it look that way, who gives a frick.
Cape Town is not in California, you doofus. End of the day, RE adaptations in 2023 are going to be political. The new Silent Hill games are political. (Non-white protagonist, child abuse laws in Europe, etc.) The new Silent Hill film is political. (It's Silent Hill for 2023, not for 2006.) Stop getting triggered by racial politics in media. It's absurd.
>Stop getting triggered by racial politics in media.
No?
>It's absurd.
No it's not?
Thank god for the never ending drama of identity politics. It'll never end, so we get to focus on it till the end of time because people are different.
It's only drama when babies get triggered by absolutely milquetoast remarks. I think anon is literally seething because a character questions why there are only 5 black people in the entirety of New Raccoon City, South Africa. Besides you can't really make a show about drug abuse without every 100+ IQ person in the audience thinking about how often black people are prescribed drugs incorrectly.
I'm actually glad there's plenty of racial politics and dissent in the resident evil show. The the themes of the games and original movies are too antisemitic for modern audiences with how toxic they are towards corporate entities who are really just our neighbors offering us reasonably priced products. Corporations are good and I'm glad the new resident evil reflects that.
>Corporations are good and I'm glad the new resident evil reflects that.
The entire show is an allegory for Prozac (which they namedrop just in case the audience is too stupid to get it) being sold despite them knowing it made people commit suicide. What the frick are you talking about you muppet?
>th-they mentioned prozac!!!!
And meanwhile the rest of the show is advocating for contemporary corporate politics and interests completely unrelated to resident evil.
Aren't the kids watching furry porn in this show? And the kids are b***hing about the existence of white people? Yeah cool, Black person furries who hate whites, I'm hooked already.
>Aren't the kids watching furry porn in this show?
No, Jade makes some offensive remarks trying to cause problems. You clearly haven't seen the show.
>And meanwhile the rest of the show is advocating for contemporary corporate politics and interests completely unrelated to resident evil.
Resident Evil: Extinction was a movie about Umbrella wanting to domesticate zombies to use them for cheap labour. How on earth are the corporate politics of RE unrelated to RE? It's like saying the politics in Star Wars are unrelated to Star WARS.
>You clearly haven't seen the show.
Nope. Don't have to. One of my principles in life is to not watch media where the dialogue refers to "Zootopia porn" for any reason.
So you just say words without knowing anything about them or what you're talking about?
Anon, that is golem behaviour. Little israeli Golem man flapping his gums.
No, I just don't watch shows that feature dialogue about having sex with anthropomorphic animals from children's media. If that makes me a golem then La'Chiem lol
Anon,taking things out of context is a israeli trick. Taking things out of context without having seen the context in the first place is a israeli golem move.
And the biggest israeli trick of all: child pornography.
I won't listen to such bile. To me, you're insane for using "well I WATCH furry porn media and I LIKE IT" as a flex lmfao
>To me, you're insane for using "well I WATCH furry porn media and I LIKE IT" as a flex lmfao
I don't understand how someone can miss the point of a scene that hardcore, then I remember you haven't actually seen the scene and are a frickwit.
Wh to the FRICK for any reason are they blabbing about porn of a kids movie for ANY REASON?
AND YOURE DEFENDING IT
LOL
keep going, the more of this insanity in the archives the better, you people are sick in the head
>Wh to the FRICK for any reason are they blabbing about porn of a kids movie for ANY REASON?
To be offensive. The point of the scene is that Billie being offensive in public. Would you prefer she talked about being railed by BWC or something?
Why not just say "HEY EVRYONE FRICK YOU" and why does the scene necessitate her being rude in public?
Where the frick are the zombies?
>HEY EVRYONE FRICK YOU
Because the only people going to find that rude are hardcore mormons.
And if I heard someone talking about Zootopia porn I would probably not say anything and be like "wtf" in my head but if someone was like HEY homosexual FRICK YOU AND have a nice day it would at least get my attention.
Zootopia porn... fricking lol
It's offended the frick out of at least one autist in this thread so it clearly works.
whatever you say, you pedo creep
But there is no furry porn in the show. You're specifically taking it out of context (which the other anon explained to you) while never having actually seen the context and doubling down.
That is the move of someone with no thoughts of their own. Der Golem in other words.
stop getting triggered when your identity politics trash you keep trying to force-feed us gets criticized and flops
Bear in mind, anon, the RE show hasn't flopped yet. There's still a solid chance it'll get enough viewer hours to get a renewal.
>who cares about muh source material and games and books and shit
>REEEEEEEE THEY'RE JUST USING THE NAME
>who gives a shit about the source material.
Anon, what the frick are you even talking about?
I'm saying something doesn't have to be a 1:1 of source material to be good. Same goes for something 1:1 to the source material can be good too.
Point is it just has to be good.
I often see people complaining about Lord of the rings saying "it's not like the source material!"
Who gives a frick. Rangs of power and resident evil aren't bad because they deviate from source material. They're bad because they're bad.
But the original Resi film wasn't particularly good either. It was a mediocre Aliens clone with the Resi name slapped on it.
..........................ok so I'm right. Thanks for responding.
In that case why adapt in the first place? If you're not even going to attempt the aesthetic, atmosphere or writing style of the series you're adapting then what are you even making?
Sure you're kind of right, but at the same time whatever who cares.
>rings of power is good (not even out yet)
>alien is bad
Are your corporate priests promising you an extra foreskin for dessert tonight or what?
Then why do you care about this one?
Something can be a massive achievement in filmmaking without having to bring something new to the table. Se7en is another example. It does nothing new but it's fricking immaculate filmmaking.
Alien isn't bad. It's just not particularly great.
Actually, the TV show is clearly borrowing the aesthetics, and some style from Anderson's movies. It's impossible to say that the Netflix show doesn't look like RE. It's too imitative of RE for that to be possible.
>It's impossible to say that the Netflix show doesn't look like RE. It's too imitative of RE for that to be possible.
Looks nothing like resident evil whatsoever. Looks like if stranger things was made by CW.
>Looks nothing like resident evil whatsoever.
Yes, it does. Umbrella's use of brutalist architecture in the show for example is absolutely in the style of Anderson. Umbrella in the show looks like RE, talks like RE, and has the corporate fascism of RE. The future timeline scenes are clearly based on Resident Evil Final Chapter. The zombies are clearly based on Resident Evil Extinction. Within the first episode you have a caterpillar and rabbits, just like Alice in Wonderland. It's not as good as the movies, obviously, but it's clearly trying.
>Umbrella's use of brutalist architecture
You mean LE SCARY WHITE SUBURBIA, OH NO, WHIIIIITES!!!!!!!
lmfao shut the Hell up dude
>You mean LE SCARY WHITE SUBURBIA
No, that's not brutalism. This is brutalism. Anderson used it in his films to convey the inhumanity of Umbrella. Notice how the walls of Umbrella's meeting room are concrete blocks? That's the naked truth of Umbrella underneath the pretty facade. Look through the TV show, and you'll constantly see exposed concrete, double height ceilings, and other brutalist motifs underpinning the Umbrella aesthetic. It's not as consistent as Anderson, but... Oh, also the suburban setting of the show is clearly based on Sundown Meadows from RE: Retribution, which was a reference to Sundown Towns, a place where racist white people would harass or kill any black person found after dark. The white people are metaphorically zombies in that context. Anderson, with his fixation of the fakeness of cinema reimagined Dawn of the Dead as a scripted play performed over and over by unwitting participants. The test environments in Retribution are one of the most fascinating pieces of meta filmmaking ever seen.
And once again the look of the Anderson films isn't the look of Resident Evil.
He's been doing this shit for few days now. Cherry-picking stuff from the series and comparing it to the shitty movies instead of games, like someone cares.
I know, I've been in most of the threads. And I can't stop myself from being baited. This is my one weakness right here.
Resident Evil = the films. Simple as that.
Nobody cares, shill. Not many care for the Mila films in the first place. And those who do, don't do it for their """""lore""""".
I hope for your sake this is pasta, this is embarrassing.
Pictured: the focus group who made the show sitting at an extremely boring table (in the dark, why because they're LE BAD) deciding on whether to talk about Zootopia porn or blue's clues porn
Notice how Evelyn Marcus's office has a naked concrete backdrop? This is a clever visual device borrowed from Anderson. Also the abstract figures and the alcohol are a clear reference to the office where Wesker hangs out in Resident Evil: The Final Chapter. (Where he's constantly crushing ice and making himself drinks.)
You are a top tier baitsman. This is genuinely aggravating.
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>You mean LE SCARY WHITE SUBURBIA
No, that's not brutalism. This is brutalism. Anderson used it in his films to convey the inhumanity of Umbrella. Notice how the walls of Umbrella's meeting room are concrete blocks? That's the naked truth of Umbrella underneath the pretty facade. Look through the TV show, and you'll constantly see exposed concrete, double height ceilings, and other brutalist motifs underpinning the Umbrella aesthetic. It's not as consistent as Anderson, but... Oh, also the suburban setting of the show is clearly based on Sundown Meadows from RE: Retribution, which was a reference to Sundown Towns, a place where racist white people would harass or kill any black person found after dark. The white people are metaphorically zombies in that context. Anderson, with his fixation of the fakeness of cinema reimagined Dawn of the Dead as a scripted play performed over and over by unwitting participants. The test environments in Retribution are one of the most fascinating pieces of meta filmmaking ever seen. #
>Notice how Evelyn Marcus's office has a naked concrete backdrop?
It's because they filmed it cheaply in a parking garage, the desk is probably fricking CG lol
A clever visual device, you can't be for real
I suppose you think Equilibrium and Resident Evil both shooting scenes in the Bundestag U-bahn was a coincidence?
http://movie-locations.com/movies/e/Equilibrium.php
What's clever about it?
Also no corporate office ever, has had bear concrete
>What's clever about it?
The show manages to have its own look an feel while still being recognizably inspired by Anderson. It feels like it pays homage without being a cheap copycat, and people who don't like Anderson won't even notice it even as Umbrella smugly say, "Where our business is life itself," just like in ONE movie and ONE viral ad campaign from 2003.
But the movies never had the look of Resident Evil either. The only one that did was Welcome to Racoon City.
>But the movies never had the look of Resident Evil either.
The films created the look of Resident Evil. They displaced the original games. Nobody thinks of the games when they think "Resident Evil theme song". They think of this.
The biggest mistake that game fans make is thinking that the games are Resident Evil in some exclusive or special way. They're just a version of Resident Evil.
>They're just a version of Resident Evil.
They're the original media. The films are schlocky b-grade popcorn films with action scenes that look cool to kids who dress up in goth clothes and listen to Mushroomhead.
>They're the original media.
And Fleming's books are the original media for James Bond. And the TV show is the original media for Mission Impossible. Doesn't mean much.
Difference is that Fleming's books and the MI series are long gone. When it comes to Anderson's films vs the games only Anderson's films are finished. The games are going stronger than ever.
The games don't even resemble Resident Evil anymore
They at least still follow the same overarching plot while having partially gone back to the gameplay style of the originals (7 with 1, 8 with 4). Anderson's films are just dead.
Kek, the seethe from this guy.
>"I think dialogue regarding Zootopia porn is great writing and really improved the show."
When religious cultists are this deep into worshipping their corporate deities that they're defending sexualized animal shows for babies you know it's basically time for war. These literal killers need to be swinging from lamp posts.
Mate, you're arguing about something completely out of context WITHOUT HAVING SEEN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
You remind me of those mental comments you see on Fox News. Crazy boomer uncles who just scream in anger about shit without even knowing why they're angry.
No I'm not. Why is there dialogue about Zootopia porn in resident evil?
Oh right, because pedos made it and has nothing to do with resident evil.
>Anderson's films are just dead
If this TV show doesn't get renewed they'll be announcing production on a new Milla Jovovich film by the end of the year.
>They at least still follow the same overarching plot
It's gotten so abstract and thematically detatched that you'd forget they're supposed to take place in the same universe if a file didn't occasionally mention a familiar name.
>When it comes to Anderson's films vs the games only Anderson's films are finished.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Isn't Alice coming to Season 2 of the show?
>The games are going stronger than ever.
Sure, but they'll never reach the level of cultural saturation the movies did. The RE games will always play second fiddle to the movies. Game Wesker will always be second fiddle to movie Wesker and possibly TV show Wesker.
lmao, I shouldn't keep falling for this bait but I can't help myself. My autism has been tickled.
That brings us back to the question of "why adapt the games if you're going to make something completely different?"
All Resident Evil offers them is the phrase "T-virus" and "Umbrella Corporation" (which is a joke name to begin with) that could be given any other name and it would make no difference in their end product.
>That brings us back to the question of "why adapt the games if you're going to make something completely different?"
They're not adapting the games. They're rebooting the film franchise.
I think the other anon was asking why the films bothered adapting the games when they're nothing alike either.
Because there were ideas in Resident Evil that Paul W.S. Anderson thought could be turned into a good movie. The relationship between RE and the films is a bit like Starship Troopers or Total Recall, just less hostile. You take this universe, and its ideas, and you craft a whole new iconography, musical style, etc. It's like asking why Blade Runner is based on Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep if it uses only the barest sketches.
Because that was the job. The job was to adapt the book. And the way to adapt the book was to turn it into Blade Runner.
The difference is that all of these adaptions were crafted into top tier material which changed things for the medium of film. Anderson made a bunch of C-tier sci-fi action films that got laughably bad from the second one onwards.
The first one had a fricking tie-in Slipknot music video for christ sake.
>The first one had a fricking tie-in Slipknot music video for christ sake.
Event Horizon had The Prodigy playing over The Credits. That's just Anderson for you.
>The difference is that all of these adaptions were crafted into top tier material which changed things for the medium of film.
Blade Runner was a flop. Critics hated it. Let's not revise what happened. Anderson with films like Event Horizon, Death Race, Resident Evil, and AvP laid a shitload of ground work that other directors still imitate.
What are all in avp was worth imitating? Don't tell me you're going to defend that too.
>What are all in avp was worth imitating?
Ridley Scott inexplicably made Prometheus, which is AvP but not good. AvP is also an example of how franchises collapse when Anderson leaves. Anderson leaves Mortal Kombat, second film is a disaster and series dies. Anderson leaves AvP, second film is a disaster and series dies. Anderson leaves Resident Evil. Welcome to Raccoon City flops. If the show gets cancelled, the curse continues. Because Anderson is this genius auteur, when he leaves you're fricked. He has the answers. He has the magic. They don't want to crawl back to him, but they will. They will kneel at his feet and ask, "Master Anderson, please tells us what do. Please grand us audience with your beautiful wife Milla."
Ok I get it you're not a dedicated school for the show you just obsessively worship Anderson, that's not so bad.
Yet fanboy that you are, you've got to admit that Prometheus had a way better soundtrack, was visually stunning, and that in avp when predator and survival lady get back out someone in your theater yelled "kiss" because of how dumb it was they were working together.
>and that in avp when predator and survival lady get back out someone in your theater yelled "kiss" because of how dumb it was they were working together.
Why was it dumb? Predators and non-white people working together or at least respecting each other is a time honored tradition. Predator 2, AvP, and now Prey with the Native American lady.
Prey is pretty clearly riffing on the "strong independent woman teams up with the Predator" vibes of AvP, which is awesome to see.
>Death Race
>AvP
You're fricking drooling.
Death Race is interesting because it was heavily influential on Mad Max Fury Road. The filmmaking shift between Road Warrior and Fury Road is extreme. With Death Race Anderson redefined fast paced vehicular combat. It seems like a given that the new Predator movie with the girl protagonist will be cribbing from AvP.
There's this cute pattern where Anderson copies someone, that someone copies Anderson, and then Anderson copies them back. Like Snyder, and also George Miller. So Anderson loved Mad Max. So he imitates Mad Max. Then George Miller imitates Death Race. Then Anderson puts a Fury Road reference in Monster Hunter, with the scene where they drive into the storm.
And I say that as someone who quite likes the films. But I'm well aware of how terrible they are.
Anderson played RE1, and wrote a movie based on the ideas of RE1. That's how the movie got made. He told the studio that if they didn't like his screenplay he'd take the RE name off and get it made at another company.
Frick Anderson's "resident evil"
>Who gives a frick. Rangs of power and resident evil aren't bad because they deviate from source material. They're bad because they're bad.
Rings of Power isn't bad, though. The only people complaining about Rings of Power are people who say "woke" unironically.
And the original Alien wasn't particularly good, either. And Aliens ruined the franchise. It was a naked cash grab, hence why Ridley Scott refuses to acknowledge anything in Alien, AvP, etc. happened.
>And the original Alien wasn't particularly good, either
Now that is contrarianism to the extreme. Alien is a fricking masterpiece of filmmaking.
Alien is a generic haunted house movie in space. It's a GOOD generic haunted house movie in space, but nothing special overall. Most movies that are classics are not actually particularly remarkable films on their own merits. We view them through a lens of nostalgia and consensus legitimacy.
In what fricking universe is Andrew Dabb a diversity hire? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Dabb
LITERALLY FRICKING WHO? SOME FAT israelite? HOW DOES THIS CREEP EVEN GET WORK?
I rest my case.
1, 2 and 4 were the only good games in this trash franchise.
Black Wesker walks into a room and asks a israeli troony in a dress "how's the wife?". That's how bad it is.
Who's the israeli troony?
Did a full 180!
Crazy!
what
the
FRICK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH RESIDENT EVIL??????
What do you mean? What specific part of the scene is unrelated to Resident Evil? Evelyn Marcus doesn't have control of her body anymore, and Billie Wesker makes Marcus dance involuntarily for her own amusement, and to prove a point. Where is the problem supposed to be?
.....how about, hmmmmmm, she turns into a fricking zombie or something? ANYTHING? it's fricking RESIDENT. EVIL. instead we get an ad for TikTok and you're online defending it.
Literal corporate pedophile drone religious cultist whacko.
>.....how about, hmmmmmm, she turns into a fricking zombie or something?
It kinda sounds like you haven't seen the show. Do you not know what Joy does?
>instead we get an ad for TikTok
What are you talking about?
>It kinda sounds like you haven't seen the show.
You're God damn right. I come on Cinemaphile to have fun making fun of the webms and arguing. You think I want these ugly images and messages beamed into my brain? I'm all fricking set. Enjoy your Zootopia porn with the trademarked title of "resident evil"
It's like these Philistines never saw GAMER.
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Is she like a fleshy robot now or does she act normal when off the iPad remote?
She can manage to speak when not on remote
I hated the first episode but I'm about halfway though it now and it's starting to grow on me. It really feels like something that would've been on the CW a few years ago.
These goddamn shill threads and shill posters are obnoxious and stupid. Frick all of you motherfrickers.
So bad not even mainstream media is talking about it
It's bad friend. I pushed myself to get through 7 episodes. I'm 1episode from finishing, but I'm done. I needed closure to that dance scene and now I have it. I will now go back to 2002 and tell myself to be grateful. When I saw that first movie, I said they could've just called that by a different title. But this takes the cake.
>netflix shills have given up and resorted to furious shitposting
lmao
>Wh to the FRICK for any reason are they blabbing about porn of a kids movie for ANY REASON?
AND YOURE DEFENDING IT
LOL
keep going, the more of this insanity in the archives the better, you people are sick in the head
ok israelite, doesn't a baby need its dick sucked? don't be late
So the shills's tactic with this one is literally.
>No, it's not!
And sometimes
>But there was that one thing in that one game once and it's kinda similar to this one thing from the Netflix series (not really), so that means the show is great!
This is embarrassing.
It's something that I will never watch but which is always on page 1 of Cinemaphile, in multiple threads.
Basically like GOT.
CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!
JUST
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moronS
Should I watch previous resident evil movies before this?
they have nothing to do with each other, but yeah, watch the original resident evil movies but skip this new "show"
So is the blind shill in the thread talking about personally reading the early, thrown out scripts for this project and knowing in detail what everyone involved in the project did behind the scenes from the very start, and hasn't provided any proof, and no ones called him out on it? Whats wrong with you people, honestly.
>dude it was always a RE series by people who loved and played RE and made an RE scipt and they hired the director and actors and writers to fill their RE series dreams
proofs?
Zombies?
People went to see six movies in 14 years making those movies more successful than any competing franchise... ironically or something. There could be 20 successful Resident Evil movies and they'd still clutch at straws trying to claim that "Nobody actually thinks they're good" and "Everyone's laughing at them. That's why everyone refused to go see 28 Weeks Later and went to go see Resident Evil Extinction instead. For a laugh."
>That's why everyone refused to go see 28 Weeks Later and went to go see Resident Evil Extinction instead. For a laugh
I remember the people buying tickets for it being mostly white trash and mexicans who just want to hear the latest loud explosion movie
Anderson is a populist filmmaker, anon.
Anyone have a mega of the episodes?
>Albert Wesker played by lance reddick
ok... proceed carefully but ok...
>he's a massive nerd and uses "Spock21" as his password
FRICK YOU YOU MOTHERLESS c**tS
>he doesn’t know
Oh dear
Shawn Roberts's Wesker has gay BDSM energy, and I am there for it. There's a rumour Anderson wanted to make Chris gay, and that would have been awesome to see.
Does Paul WS Anderson pay a bunch of people to big him up on Cinemaphile or does he have a bunch of unironic fans who consider him a genius? This is some of the most bizarre shit I've ever seen.
Don't bother with this thread, there are 2 tards 69ing each other defending this shit for some reason. I hope they get paid because otherwise it's really pathetic