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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think we all know the answer

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Depends how much of a cynics you are

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >show looks like complete and total shit so far, with everyone involved showing nothing but disdain and ridicule towards Tolkien fans
      >cynic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone involved showing nothing but disdain and ridicule towards Tolkien fans
        Not pandering to chuds is actually very Tolkienian tbh

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          why would you pander to a make-believe demographic?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          chuds don't want anything special that panders to them, they just want the absence of woke leftoid pandering. Like the original LOTR trilogy that chuds and normies alike love and cherish as a great adaption.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >great adaption
            lol

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              literally everyone but the most moronic of contrarians considers LOTR 1-3 to be a great adaption.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Among book fans they are generally regarded as poor adaptions.
                The Tolkien family literally said they were 'not Lord of the Rings'
                They are ok as movies but they are not true to Tolkien's works, they are just Hollywood actions movies with completely different characters from the books and a LOTR badge slapped on them

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                well, if you're that much of a hardcore Tolkien book fan that you think the Peter Jackson trilogy is a bad adaption and wasn't true enough to the source material, how could you have any hope at all for the Amazon LOTR adaption?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Makes movies watchable by removing pages upon pages of shit elven poetry and moronic bumbling character that never shows up again in the story and doesn’t make sense unless you’ve read the turgid source material books

                NOOOOOOOOO NOT MY PRECIOUS TOLKIENERINO

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >no you see, Tolkien was actually always shit!
                Thanks for proving our point, "Tolkien fan".

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fricking hell, have we reached a time where it's 'cool' to think Jackson's films are bad? As someone who grew up with the books, those fims are great. A few issues with them, sure, but overall they get the feel of the books right and respect the material. And they are universally loved, or so I thought

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's just the amazon shills who are preemptively trying to drag the trilogy down so their catastrophe of a tv show will seem less catastrophic.
                Like even my fricking normie freinds are laughing about this.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >even my fricking normie freinds are laughing about this.
                Imagine actually being an ESL lying to a bunch of strangers on a Korean basket weaving forum, lmaoing

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I dont get paid like you so I guess it commands a little more respect.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >he does it for free

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No Christopher Tolkien spoke several times about how he didn't like the films.
                The films are kino, but book gays want a perfect adaptation of the source material. I think Jackson's rewriting was actually very intelligent most of the time. He only missed on a few things (no Tom Bombadil, for example)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                well, if you're that much of a hardcore Tolkien book fan that you think the Peter Jackson trilogy is a bad adaption and wasn't true enough to the source material, how could you have any hope at all for the Amazon LOTR adaption?

                Fricking hell, have we reached a time where it's 'cool' to think Jackson's films are bad? As someone who grew up with the books, those fims are great. A few issues with them, sure, but overall they get the feel of the books right and respect the material. And they are universally loved, or so I thought

                Most Tolkien fans consider the movies to be really good action films with a touch of Tolkien, not actually faithful adaptations.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is this a new talking point for the amazon shills? The LOTR trilogy was an amazing adventure story, especially fellowship had so many beautiful scenery shots and just a comfy feeling of travel, only someone extremely disingenuous or cynical would call it an action film, just because it happens to also have some nice action scenes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Dude I have nothing but contempt for the Amazon shitshow, but that doesn't make the Jackson movies flawless masterpieces. I can still think that the Star Wars prequels sucked even though the Disney shit is even worse.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                they aren't flawless, but they are masterpieces. I firmly believe that the original trilogy is the best LOTR adaption Hollywood at any period in time would have been capable of creating. They certainly can't make movies like that anymore.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I love the Jackson movies, but not because they are particularly great adaptations of the source material, that was the point I was trying to make. I also don't expect Hollywood to ever properly adapt Tolkiens works but that doesn't mean I have to lower my expectations below the acceptable.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Is this a new talking point
                It's been a talking point for over 20 years, clearly you never spent any time reading the opinions of actual book fans

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry but I don't take the opinions of book nerds seriously if they apparently think the Jackson trilogy wasn't close enough to the source material to be anything but okayish action movies, but at the same time they can't even speak out against something as absurd and ridiculously off-source material as black elves and black hobbits.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is this some falseflag where you pretend that people cannot dislike two things at the same time? I can take a literal shit on the Jackson movies (even though in reality I love them) and STILL hate the Amazon show, get it through your thick skull already.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Book fans care about themes, characterisation, fidelity of the events, stuff like that. Jackson radically changed many of these.
                One big example, think about Tolkien the WW1 veteran who hated war so much he would spend little more than a couple of pages documenting the battles in LOTR. Then compare to Jackson who dragged these battle scenes out for over 1hour and filled it with rediculous ott Hollywood action because war and suffering is actually fun and LeGOod

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >noooooooooo the movie doesn't have Tom Bombadil dancing around for 3 hours, this movie is terrible!
                >Finally my blackerinos are getting the representation they deserve and Galadriel is a HECKIN valid warrior body type b, now THIS is the true Tolkien spirit I remember from the books!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                see

                Is this some falseflag where you pretend that people cannot dislike two things at the same time? I can take a literal shit on the Jackson movies (even though in reality I love them) and STILL hate the Amazon show, get it through your thick skull already.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Most of my 'normal' friends think the lord of the rings films are really dull and slow. I wasn't aware anyone considered them action movies.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >politics
            What politics?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If the original LOTR trilogy were released today, you'd whine incessantly about Eowyn killing that Nazgul "by the power of being a woman" and the "obvious feminist agenda" being pushed in the movie.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I saw the LotR movies in the theatre when I was 16 and even then I was a bit miffed about how they portrayed Eowyn as a whiny homely woman instead of the steadfast valkyrie she is in the books during that moment, a living symbol of loyalty and strength while still being feminine.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              because there's no way to know if a decision is agenda-driven for sure. we can only notice patterns and assume to worst because it's too often accurate.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                While I agree with the point you're trying to make it has become extremely easy to spot an agenda because many people don't even hide it, there openly pronounce their hate for the source material and anyone liking it is a moronic nerd/nazi/chud/whatever, so it has to change and become more "modern". It's not a fricking conspiracy theory, they say that shit to your face nowadays.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Eowyn is a character with flaws and weaknesses
              >not wienery or b***hy
              >doesn't turn down help because she's stronk and indupendunt
              >no "I can do this just as well if not better" attitude
              >just wants to help her father to whom she has a strong affection
              now compare it to women characters in large audience movies of the past decade

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Eowyn is supposed so be a symbol of female loyalty and filial duty, of showing strength despite your obvious weakness in the face of evil, the love for your lord and father, overcoming societal barriers when too much is at stake. Modern "strong" women are about defying their fathers or killing 50 nazis on their own or being extremely confident in and proud of their weaknesses.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              He's right you know, all the "noooo it was different back then" is pure cope. You are unable to criticize that shit without resorting to hurling racial slurs and tweeting death threats to either the staff or the actors. Smelly incel channers nerds deserve all the shitty adaptation they get for popularizing trollish attitudes Now the executives noticed the power of outrage based promotion you made your bed by popularizing troll culture now lay in it

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                (You)

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why didn't Tolkien specifically include blacks among the many other races in his extremely detailed works? You don't have an answer to this.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Tolkien didn't include blacks

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Mordor is the balkans
              Oh no no no no

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >chuds hate this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why yes, I do hate interrelationships between Black folk and humans, how could you tell?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Those aren't humans, though.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's what he said

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i had no idea she was THAT fat

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You know it's good casting when they didn't even need to give her any prosthetics

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          this is an 8 in muttland

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      where her beard?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why do morons continue the meme that Arch began? It was never established in canon that dwarven women have beards. Tolkien played with the idea, but never implemented it. Neither did his son.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Every new angle we get of that obese turd makes it look worse and worse

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It's disgusting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There are zero black dwarves in Tolkien's Middle-Earth.
      It is an Anglo-Saxon mythology.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >There are zero black dwarves
        What skin colour does Tolkien say the dwarves are?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you know if you kept reading that comment a bit further you'd have your answer

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't the "got em" you think it is. If they were meant to be black, Tolkien would have described them so, as it would be a stand out feature when among elves and men. This means they must be some shade of, what most would call white.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        She's literally just darker

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      so... is this marriage interracial or are all Dwarven women black? But I think we see a picture of a Dwarven Woman in the Hobbit... so... she is a different race? Where does she come from, where are the other black dwarves?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        She's probably an immigrant from a different dwarven clan, like the ones that live in the east of middle earth

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's still poor worldbuilding to treat dwarves (and elves) like they were just some funny looking humans and give them the earth based ethnic diversity treatment. Even if there were a good argument for this level of ethnic diversity in the world.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that thing looks like a fat Black vulture

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Very.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No clue, because I'm not going to watch that trash. I will, however, watch all the youtube vids that will be shitting all over it because its trash.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    From the sick twisted mind of Tariq NaPeele

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Take the ring off yo finga, Frodo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kek

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popobawa

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's already an abomination from what little they have shown. And that is supposed to be the best they have. It only goes further down the drain from here.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I will never know.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not as bad as WoT

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i love that i instanly thought this was a misguided Cinemaphile thread about some gangster rap music.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The movies still look good. I wouldn't have done a remake for another decade at least.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love blacks so I think it's going to be great. Great people!

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Digital makes everything look fake and cheap
    >Lots of CGI but never seamless, you will tell when its just someone on a set added in post
    >Diverse and multi ethnic races which go against lore (the mixed elf probably has Easternling parentage, maybe but the black hobbits and dwarves already ruin this)
    >Tacky action to keep people strung along, epic stunts and sick bow shots are Tolkien was all about after all
    >Creators have their own agenda which is contradictory to Tolkien's so the show will be at odds with the source material

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not watching/10, same as Kenobi it will be too mediocre to muster more than half-assed hatred for it

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine a Tolkien show even worse than the Hobbit movies. It's gonna be so bad it won't even be fun to joke about, just sad.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hope the series tanks.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >being such a greedy and bigoted piece of shit that you'll steal source material for money without respecting the ethnic homogenous groups the material describes
    >being such a sexist piece of shit that you can't stand to even acknowledge the biological superiorty men have in strength and depict inferior weak women as if they were men instead
    >being so delusional and self centered you attack the audience for demanding the source material is recognized and respected

    They would have done better creating something original rather than trying to exploit the Lord of the Rings fan base, as the fan base expects them to honor Tolkien, which they clearly are not. Not wasting my time watching this shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You do realize racist and sexist describes YOUR beliefs not what you're complaining about, right?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >caring about english culture makes you racist
        >praising the different aspects that make men and women unique makes you sexist
        You people are mentally ill.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    11/10 bad.
    It will make the witcher look good by comparison.
    It will make WoT look good by comparison.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My prediction? It'll be Amazon's biggest show, easily topping The Boys.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Highly doubt it. If we've learnt anything from Disney+ so far, it's that having a strong IP alone won't guarantee a popular and successful tv show with large viewership numbers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It'll have record breaking first episode views and then some of the largest drop off in history.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It will be a massive dumpster fire, but in clownworld that means it gets 95%+ critics approval.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Some newly confirmed info

    22 main characters for s1
    Six main realms/regions - Lindon, Eregion, Khazad-dum, Rhovanian, 'Southlands', Numenor
    + Sundering Seas (not really a realm but will be regularly featured)

    Main theme of s1 - why is Saurons seduction effective/why are the people of Middle-earth ready for Saurons deceit

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    all the people who hope that a chinese social credit system will be implemented in the west will love it
    everyone with taste will hate it
    simple as

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There has been nothing said and nothing shown that indicates that this show is going to be good in any way. Every single sign is that it will be woke garbage.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Another great addition to the collection

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Some new info

    - 22 main characters
    - Elrond/Galadriel will be the main focus of S1
    - Celeborn will be in the show at some point, and not just as an afterthought
    - Feanor will be in it, but unnamed (!!)
    - One of the main themes are "fear of death and the desire to live forever" and s1 will explore “why is Saurons seduction effective/why are the people of Middle-earth ready for Saurons deceit”
    - Six main realms for s1 - Lindon, Eregion, Khazad-dum, Rhovanian, 'Southlands', Numenor + Sundering Seas (not really a realm but will be regularly featured)
    - S2 will explore new realms

    - Dwarves will have a serious storyline, not just comic relief and two Durins will be explained
    - The method of time compression keeps the first millennium roughly the same then compresses the rest
    - The sword in Elendil's character poster is not Narsil
    - Statue on Numenor (shown in the teaser) is Earendil with Elwing in bird form
    - Robert Aramayo (Elrond) is a massive Tolkien nerd
    - John Howe is fully involved
    - The Tolkien Estate 'have had a seat at the table throughout', and are really involved

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Most of these are lies btw, I can see some hamfisted parallels in the show about how people fall for Sauron just like they do for le evil alt-right and only strong females/blacks can defy them coming up though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >- The Tolkien Estate 'have had a seat at the table throughout', and are really involved
      Really involved counting the scheckels, not very involved vetoing idiot decisions.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >The Tolkien Estate 'have had a seat at the table throughout', and are really involved
      >why yes my grandfather always imagined Middle-Earth full of abbos, now give me the money

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Feanor
      They better cast the biggest megachad they can for the role. Fortunately all the High Elves are white, so that's not a problem.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Fortunately all the High Elves are white
        LMFAO DO YOU STILL THINK SHIT LIKE THAT MATTERS HAHAHAHA WHAT FRICKING YEAR DO YOU THINK IT IS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Fortunately all the High Elves are white
        lol no

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          HIGH Elves. The Black person isn't one.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >t. literally the guy in that screenshot who gets BTFO every thread

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >One of the main themes are "fear of death and the desire to live forever"
      Some certainly do get that wish

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      forgot one
      >Sauron won't be the centre stage for all 5 seasons

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What's this about "time compression"?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Moving the ring making the end of the 2nd age so that it happens around the same time as the downfall of Numenor

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            So that they can introduce Elendil, Isildur, Pharazon and Tar-Miriel in s1 and not S4/5

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Because the makers of this show don't give a shit and think the creator of the source material just threw stuff around nilly willy like it's a cheap Harry Potter novel?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Having their human characters die and age within a season was deemed too complicated to handle. Probably couldn't convince any good actors to only do one or two episodes for characters. Also they thought audience would just be confused. But really, they just have a shit writing department that couldn't handle it any other way.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's moronic, especially of they want to turn it into a multi-season franchise. They're making the same basic error Game of Thrones did - cut out potential content.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Who is the "Tolkien estate" now? 20 grandchildren who give zero fricks and only want some easy millions?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Both Christopher and Priscilla Tolkien died in the last few years so idk what things look like now but the people in charge will be Christophers children, so Adam and Simon Tolkien.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I will shit on my own chest if we're getting even an ounce of that same important spirit in this shitshow.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's Maedhros

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen a video on his character, he had a pretty cool run

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        His brother is still alive, maybe they'll actually use him, since Tolkien literally forgot about him.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Read a few comments from people who have seen footage and several said this scene of Gil-galad crowning Galadriel was amazing.
    Not sure exactly why, some implied that they really nailed the use of music with an emotional beat
    I'm guessing they will have him be Orodreth's son so they will have that family connection between the two.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Or they actually could go with Tolkien's initial route of making him Finrod's son, either way they will have Gil-galad and Galadriel be family

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm guessing they will have him be Orodreth's son
      Yeah, I think it makes more sense that way.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna make season 8 of GOT look like a masterpiece.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dey hea

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WE

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That is one of the ugliest looking non-malformed person I've seen
    she just looks utterly repulsive

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Idk I dont have prime

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    all the signs are there for a terrible show.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Still not watching your Black person show

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wait this is lotr?

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It will be good because diversity.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How come the character doesn't have a beard. Gimli said dwarf women have beard.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what type of fried chicken does she like?

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    First two episodes will be shown in cinemas worldwide as a standalone movie
    JA Bayona has been sharing images in 2.39:1 aspect ratio, which is cinema screen format

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I thought that already came out and was forgotten.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's not out until September

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well I predict it will be forgotten by december.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Looks kino to me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It will have the most forgettable plot and characters imaginable.
      At least visually it looks good, I give them that.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The statue at the Numenorean port is of Eärendil and Elwing (bird form)

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    History repeats itself

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Amazon wishes they could repeat what Jackson produced.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not bad enough to stop Cinemaphile from watching it and giving it free advertisement here, despite the ~~*writers*~~ best efforts.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >advertisement here
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      LMAO

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