How big of a threat in the Marvel Universe would Freddy Kreuger be? What's the most powerful hero he could menace?
How big of a threat in the Marvel Universe would Freddy Kreuger be? What's the most powerful hero he could menace?
How big of a threat in the Marvel Universe would Freddy Kreuger be? What's the most powerful hero he could menace?
Freddy gets beaten by literal teenage girls on the reggy.
This. Both Marvel and DC heroes have fought dream bad guys and Freddy ain't shit
You make it sound like he didn’t kill all there friends and kill then later. There’s o ot one girl I. The movies that dosen’t get killed by Freddy. If you go by comics he kills her too.
He would just be a goon for Nightmare.
Strange could probably handle him off screen and go right for Freddy's bosses.
Less of a threat than this fricker.
I do not fricking buy people who say 'Oh yeah guys Pennywise is totally an multiversal threat guys really" when he was beaten once by a bunch of pre-teens and again by the same pre-teens but as unremarkable and schlubby mediocre middle-aged adults.
The kids were getting helped by another multiversal being in the book. You got a point with the movie.
What is his deal?
It's a giant spider alien or something?
I've never read any Stephen King books.
On the books/novel IT is a world/universe ending entity which is implied to be a lot more stronger than any of the movies adaptation.
She (in the book pennywise is a woman) gets defeated when Gan, the turtle shares part of her divine power to both Richie and Bill.
I'd say Pennywise is stronger than Freds but both are limited by the town where they reside, an endless entity like the Tallman is a bigger threat than both IMO
>Gan, the turtle
Gan isnt the turtle
Well sorry mate, IT novel is more than a thousand pages to read,I kinda get the names mixed.
>almost all of Steven Kings books are connected
I always wondered where JFK is assasinated on Derry fits along the timeline
>(in the book pennywise is a woman)
I'd totally let Femwise molest me
>digits
She's got a yummy tummy
Are you brave enough to hot glue some clussy
Imagine of her figure came to life and straddled your lips with her tiny clussy before strutting down to give your a dick a full body job
Alright so you have our universe right? Well our universe was vomited into creation by a giant turtle
This giant turtle lives in the macroverse which engulfs all the other universes that this turtle has puked out
The turtle isnt alone in the macroverse, it's also occupied by the deadlights which is this giant mass of evil eldritch energy
IT is the teeniest tiniest little scrap of that energy that's taken physical form in our universe and all IT wants to do is eat and sleep
The Losers manage to beat it with the help of the turtle as kids and then later Gan intervenes when they are adults, Gan is the creator of the macroverse and one of the guardians of the pillars that hold up the entire multiverse
What you have to keep in mind is that almost all of Steven Kings books are connected to each other in one way or another and that even after being defeated in IT Pennywise the clown and by extension the Deadlights are still alive and may also be Randall Flag and the father/mother of the Crimson King
>What you have to keep in mind is that almost all of Steven Kings books are connected to each other in one way or another
So Cujo is in the universe of Christine is in the universe of... frick... the Shining?
Though probably not in the universe of the Shawshank Redemption of Green Mile (the movies I preferred from King)
Cujo has an encounter with Randall Flagg in the book, if I remember correctly
The Castle Rock TV show mentions Shawshank, and Castle Rock is definitely connected to the tower.
>the necronomicon was in the Vorhees home in Jasin goes to Hell
Oh yeah, that happened.
>ripping off The Thing
I keep on saying both Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th lived and died on the 80s
Nowadays when someone mentions Freddy and Jason kids think of the fricking animatronic and that Mortal Kombat character (which netherrealm didnt even take the effort to design his deformed face)
tbqh tbh most slashers had a hard adaptation to the new century
though if you ask me TCM and Halloween got off the best reboots and requels, getting at least one film per decade they're just timeless classics.
Dude Christine shows up in IT being driven by Pennywise and the black kids dad knew the old black guy in The Shining
The Cujo incident is referenced by people in other books, like in Pet Semetary
Stephen King himself also shows up as a character in the Dark Tower series, cocaine is a hell of a drug
>gets turned into an used condom because a bunch of boomers shouted mean words at him
KWAB
Pennywise is an avatar of an avatar. The Deadlights are a reality ending event
Is that part of SK's own little book multiverse he's been doing?
Are they like Deadites from the Evil Dead franchise?
Deadlights are a demon lord from the dark tower. It's a being that would end reality if it broke through to it. The only thing that stops it is it's fricking lazy and would rather spend it's time chewing on terrified children than trying to break through fully
>Is that part of SK's own little book multiverse he's been doing?
Pretty much everything is. Between Castle Rock, The Dark Tower, and little tips of the hat in various other books, almost everything is connected.
Random nobody who is also fricked if the heroes are magic in some way. Maybe he gets a Sinestro Ring around 2009 and gets to be in background shots of random GL events for a while.
Marvel heroes should be able to contain him.
Key word being contain. They can't actually kill him, but it should be relatively easy to hold him down.
Doesn't Marvel have dimension eaters? Like Soma Gorath or whatever? Big tentacle starfish thing?
It's quite simple
Classic Kruegger > Classic Pennywise
Remake Kruegger < Remake Pennywise
Novels Pennywise > Kruegger on dream world (yes, that includes those comics no soul on earth has ever read).
Yeah but Freddy will always be funnier.
And is better at touching kids too
Jason to this day still got 0 b***hes
Depends the movie I guess since slasher villains tend to be quite incoherent in the favor of whoever is the director.
Freddy's weaknesses practically change by each film.
Ghost Rider would Penance Stare him so fricking hard.
Kind of annoying to street level guys and people who cannot do much to supernatural threats. Anyone with magic or psychic powers fricks him up real bad.
He would be fodder tier. Just bring him into the real world.
With prep time, he can be dangerous but once he's defeated he'll be killed off for good. Way too dangerous to keep around.
Could Nightwing beat him with prep time?
No, he’d get the volcano treatment.
He'd probably be less powerful than Nightmare, and Nightmare is a jobber, and Freddy himself is a jobber since he constantly gets thwarted by dumbass teenagers. So the most powerful hero Freddy could menace would be an incompetent rookie street-level hero.
Freddy kills every teenage girl he went after in the movies except 2.
On Freddy v Jason and the remake the final pair survive too, although Freddy on each of those movies endings is highly implied to have survived such events
By the way, is Wes Craven's new nightmare canon or just a what if scenario? Because it fits nowhere along the Nightmare on Elm Street saga
>is highly implied to have survived such events
He did.
Read Freddy vs Jason vs Ash
and
Freddy vs Jason vs Ash: The Nightmare Warriors
I've heard about em' but those are canon?
Because I recall having a couple of slasher comics as a kid (before Freddy v Jason there was Jason v Leatherface) and they usually changed A LOT from the movies.
Weirdest shit I've seen was implied incest between Judith and Michael Myers on the Halloween Malibu comics which by the way, are quite shit.
>but those are canon?
They're canon to Freddy vs Jason
And the Necronomicon was in the Vorhees home in Jason goes to Hell.
So stop trying to find some huge connective continuity in 80's slashers.
The book of the dead was in Jason's family home.
Freddy's glove popped up
They crossed over
And then Ash crossed over in the comics
Some characters from both Nightmare and Friday show up in Nightmare Warriors.
That's all that matters
>but those are canon?
There is literally nothing more movie wise that follows after FvJ except Ash comics.
Jason goes to hell has both the Necronomicon in it which connects it to Evil Dead.
So yes it's "Canon" in that there hasn't been any new source material to contradict it.
"But what the Evil Dead Tv series?! Does that prove it's canon!?" I hear you ask
In which case, no there is no reference to Freddy or Jason, but the series also ended on a cliff hanger with Ash sent to the future, and his voice cameo in the latest movie was confirmed to be a time displaced Ash meaning he's still stuck fighting deadites throughout history meaning at some point in his timeline the events of the comics could occur
>There is literally nothing more movie wise that follows after FvJ except Ash comics.
Jason X
New nightmare is it’s own thing. Because that’s not Freddy it’s a Demon mimicking him because it was contained in the story that was nightmare on Elm street. It was very Meta, and I’m sad we never got to see Freddy demon kill well Robert England.
Sandman>Nightmare.
>Welcome to my nightmare, b***h
Wouldn't Nightmare destroy him for messing with his domain?
the dream demons most likely would work for Nightmare.
But are any of them a match for Vaermina or Sheogorath?