How come he never triggered ya'll. He's not white. Is it because he's Irish-Latino?
How come he never triggered ya'll. He's not white. Is it because he's Irish-Latino?
How come he never triggered ya'll. He's not white. Is it because he's Irish-Latino?
He is well written and more importantly existed before the internet
>He is well written
...is he?
Yes. If you say he isn't then I'll be convinced you're an npc that doesn't actually read comics
>npc
ah yes. that'll sting in the morning. but really. hes no better written than ben.
Well it's sure stinging you now so I'm sure it'll continue to sting you in the morning
>hes no better written than ben
He must be written pretty well then, unless recent comics are you barometer for either in which case you're a moron
It's obvious from the way you type that you've never read a single comic, you big phony.
Which is to say he's well written. Nice spacing by the way, tourist.
Get the frick out of here newbie.
He was in the original run
I’ve been reading the original 92’ run and I’m really enjoying it so far, but are the other Spider-Man 2099 runs worth reading?
I liked the 2015 run, despite the shittier costume. It's by the same author as the original one.
>existed before the internet
The internet really ruined things for everyone, huh?
It probably also helps that he's from a What If? future well after Peter's lifespan.
The general consensus on Cinemaphile is that pic related would be hated if he came out in the modern day
No the frick it is not
Coach is the collective good buddy of all Cinemaphile
Its roachelle who'd catch even more flak for being a noncharacter.
he came out when blacks weren't used as weird stepping stone tools to fit an agenda
he was based then and still is
Anon.... you do realize the majority of this board and even site in general are latinos, right?
Miles is Latino and still gets a lot of hate.
I know he's bland as frick but I find it funny that people just blame it on his race.
Absolutely no one thinks of Miles as latino.
Miguel is infinitely more interesting than Miles. Moreso he was conceived as a complement to Spider-Man, not a replacement. This was also before you guys went full moron with race and gender-swapping.
The hispanics on this site are extremely self-conscious about their race. Miguel is half-white, an idealized version of what they wish they were, so they'll naturally gravitate towards liking him. Miles is half-black, so the opposite occurs and they hate him out of self-loathing.
>Miguel is an idealized version of what latinos wish they could be
One of many but you are not incorrect
>spics
Dont be racist
>miles
Latinos don't hate him out of self loathing or for being black, the non black crowd aint feeling represented by Miles thats for sure, but thats insignificant and its not preventing people from seeing the movie, but it does spawn miguel is racist memes and it makes latinos orbit more towards Miguel.
>Miguel is half white
>movie is literally a brown guy
>fans start fangilring over him despite being a brown SPIC
You're a frickin nignog who can't argue in good faith. No wonder you love miles. Because you're LITERALLY a black supremacist at heart.
Latinos hate blacks
Marvel barely remembers that Miles is supposed to be Afro-Latino, anon.
Nobody sees Miles as latino, not even Marvel themselves treat him as anything but black.
I see miles as nothing but latino... what the frick books have you been reading
Who gives a FRICK what YOU see. To The general public He's the black Spider-Man. His very creator and debute refers to him as the black spider man.
Why do you think Prowler Miles outshined him?
People really don’t blame his race, it’s the opposite really when you bring up actual criticism people cry racist at you. They use him being black and ironically only half black as a shield.
>Miles is Latino
Miles is nominally latino but might as well be fully black, the mixed race thing feels like it was thrown in there just to double up on minority brownie points
You can be Latino and black, 'Latino' isn't a race. Though I feel calling people who aren't from Latin America 'Latino' is pretty nonsensical so I wouldn't consider him that anyway.
Don't play dumb, you know what it means to call a character latino. Miles doesn't even speak spanish (or most of the time is not shown properly), and has zero latino attributes other than his mom is latino, no latino friends. He doesn't use the slang, doesn't represent the culture, etc. Unlike his black side, where he's fully immersed
>Miles is Latino and still gets a lot of hate.
>Site Full of Latinos
>Racist against the Afro-Latino
No contradictions here.
I'm not
Miles is a Black person with token latino references to fulfill a quota. Outside those, he doesn't even behave like americanized people of hispanic descent.
When is it going to enter your thick skull that people don't like Miles because he replaced Peter in Ultimate and then was shoved down our throats constantly afterwards? This isn't rocket science.
not even bendis think he is latino, let's see black people think if you have black skin you are black. but that is USA state of mind.
Black in brasil are Pardos. Black in Mali, are people from Mali. Black people in Senegal, FIRST are from senegal, and THEN are blacks.
>Irish
What an absolute unit holy shit
Lurk more OP. And don't listen to what idiots say about this place. You might also check out the full spiderman 2099 thread that was posted a bit in the archives.
He is half-latino half-white and looks white.
in the comics he's more white. in the movie he had a bit of a mexican brown tint
the virgin zambino vs the CHAD meztizo
>ya'll
have a nice day
He passes as white
he's older than most of Cinemaphile, i'd guess there was people back in the early 90s b***hing about him
he's a very different character to peter
his powers are kind of shit compared to most spider-men, his enhanced vision and fangs even have downsides
he's from a period long after peter died, they didn't kill peter off to make miguel the new spider-man
his costume is cooler than miles'
i like miguel, but the future rarely sells well and there's fifty different spider-people in the present day
his fangs have downsides?
yeah, he can't retract them, he has to actively hide them while talking
he had problems with his claws early on too, he sat down on a water bed not expecting it, they popped out and cut it open
They still have water beds in 2099?
His ex girlfriend was into 20th century stuff
>i'd guess there was people back in the early 90s b***hing about him
probably not, 2099 as a whole was fairly unobtrusive and there was bigger shit to care about that year
No. Not on the racial grounds at least. The 90's were FAR more relaxed about race than now on most things. Complaints would be more on how he's some sort of crazy edgelord spinnoff like azarel, batman beyond, Cable or Spawn.
Yeah, THAT was a doozy of an argument.
>Complaints would be more on how he's some sort of crazy edgelord spinnoff like azarel, batman beyond, Cable or Spawn.
This. At most any complaints about Miguel would be coming from people who automatically think he's a 90s edgy hero based on looking at just his costume and not reading it
Older comic fans were complaining more about Image stuff and Image-styled stuff and the edgelord characters, not about race.
>people who automatically think he's a 90s edgy hero based on looking at just his costume and not reading it
This is precisely what happened to poor Ben Reilly in the movie.
This. Miguel is a compliment to Peter, not a replacement. He's not trying to be Spider-Man, he's trying to be Spider-Man 2099
He's half white and looks full white. Not to mention, whites don't really mind hispanics or Asians in general.
EVERYONE SHUT THE FRICK UP IT'S TIME FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION
Shock, or Schway?
Shock schway and all those who utter it.
BOTH. Shway is a smooth groove to dance with your girlfriend, and your girlfriend's girlfriend. Shock is for hard knocks and hard rocks that will blast your socks. But when it gets HARD shock. Like enough to make Hobie the Spider punk sweat, you know that it's Nasty. BALLS Nasty.
Indeed. Someone has to take out the shwarbage.
You can't just choose between them, you know. Both good in their own way
Half the /misc/gays on this site are Mexicans so I'll let you do the math on that one, Anon.
Because he's the same thing as Batman Beyond. Spiderman in sci-fi future fighting criminals with laser guns. He's not some bald fricks race swap virtue signalling tool like Miles originally was.
>completely African
What is Anansi.
Yeah what is anansi, Marvel isn't pushing this literal rando onto the public like they are with miles. Hell this dude seems cool and atleast different from Peter Parker but shittier and Black personified with zoomer aesthetics
A tiger? In Africa?
Are comic book writers getting even dumber?
He's not a parasite on Peter.
Because he's a real character who's more than a raceswapped retread of Peter.
>Cyber punk setting
>Costume looks original while still being recognizable as Spider-Man
>Different personality than Peter
>Good supporting cast of characters including a family with a complex backstory
>His original run is great
Most importantly though
>Doesn't get shoehorned into every aspect of the franchise
Also
>Wasn't made by a cynical grifter intentionally to supplant the original and amass royalty checks
Y'know I was gonna come to this thread again to post
>David>Bendis
But I like the way you put it better.
That is literally wrong, he was allowed to be made by the editorial to celebrate the fact Obama as the first black president, and was made by Bendis because Twitter petitioned Donald Glover to be cast as Spider-Man because a black man being Spider-Man would be "brave and important", the fact that their stunt worked is what gave them the confidence to double down on their mental illness every year.
DUUUUUDE!
IT WAS 2099! IN THE FUTURE, THE CORPS RULE IT ALL, SO NO ONE HAS THE TIME BE ANGRY ABOUT IRISHTINO SUPERHEROES!
FRICKING LATRISH THO, FRICK THEM!
>have car you love
>someone gifts you a jetski
>cool I can use this when I'm out on water
>someone gifts you the same car but black
>can only use it by neglecting the original car you like
Now cars are actually valuable so you could sell the second one or something but the point is that Miggy fulfills purposes Peter can't, whereas every second of Miles' existence is a second that would've otherwise went to Peter
what if you touched another person, what if you two became one
Bad analogy. For it to work, the second car should be inferior in function and everyone has to insist that you use it instead of your old one and if you want to use your old car then you're a bad person.
So hybrid?
>Never billed or hyped up to be a replacement or forced people to accept him as 'their' spider-man
>Takes place in the far future where the title has been vacant for god knows how long
>by taking place in the far (alternate) future means he is completely isolate from the mainline Spidey series, leaving him to do whatever the hell he wants to without rocking OG Spider's boat
>Stayed exclusively in 2099 barring select crossovers and no attempt to forcibly merge him into the mainline series's present
Literally couldn't be more of its own side-gig if it tried.
The 2099 shit was all biller as bizarre and alternative. It was never presented as being the new direction for any of the involved series, so there were no expectations that things had to be a certain way.
Spider-Man 2099 is incredibly tame compared to say Hulk or Ghost Rider. You see those two in 2099 form and it immediately sets your expectations for the setting.
>miles Morales now he'd just make him completely African and maybe non binary or whatever is the meta right now in american culture war.
Cinemaphile would unironicly like miles more if he was nonbinary or trans. Because 1. For all the b***hing, nerdy white and Mexican guys like brown skinny tomboys and 2. In comics, the character would essentially be a woman.
Being a black male retreat of Peter is why people hate him. Half of Cinemaphile would adore him if he was a chocolate milk trap.
Especially 10 years ago when the board loved cute trannies
No one cares about his race. People mostly don't give a shit about Latinos and Asians. They go to school, they go to work, they pay their bills, etc.
Also, race was far less of a deal back then. Race was something grandma or grandpa grumbled about. About how they thought the black man that sales vacuum cleaners door to door surely was the person who stole their weed eater (it was white kid sthat wanted money for weed)
It might come as a shock to you, but most people didn't care or were progressive pre internet. Shit just didn't matter. You could go years and not meet a gay person. You could go weeks and not deal with "negative black stereotype behavior" only weirdos sat around and thought about it all day.
The complaint of 2099 was it was a copy of batman beyond or was new edgy crud.
2099 predates beyond by like five years, casual.
ummm no? Batman Beyond was in 1999 while Miguel first showed up in Across the Spiderverse in 2023
Dumbass
You didn't immediately recognize it as a shitpost?
Spics don't pay their bills
>The complaint of 2099 was it was a copy of batman beyond or was new edgy crud.
I'm not sure if serious or to=rolling, but wither way i hope you choke.
>triggered ya'll
Go back
i thought chris chan wasn't allowed on the internet anymore?
He’s a character that is Latino. He is not a Latino that is also a character.
Fun character and he was used pretty well. To the point that he's getting constant daily memes online.
>ya'll
KYS
Show me the page from the original run where the latino culture is being used to shit on white people.
he's not irish moron
have you been crowning for the last three days
Here's a fun mind game to try, Miguel is supposed to be half white and half latino but the movie made him full brown and you could easily say he's full indigenous with how he looks and acts in the movie, but no 2099 fan complained, they were just glad he got some time in a movie
Now imagine we made Miles fully latino to the point you can't tell he's supposed to be half black, and imagine what the reaction would be from his "fans" and what remaining merits he would have that differentiate him from Peter
heres another: you sucking a dirty dick girly style
>he's full indigenous with how he looks and acts
what did anon mean by this?
they dont know how races work, also miguel isnt even half irish
Anon meant that you could say "this is the native American Spider-Man" to someone who doesn't know anything about 2099 and they wouldn't question it for a second, which is a far cry from the original Miguel who was obviously half white.
when you look at how dark his mother was it's not impossible for him to come looking like he did in atsv
So Miles fans would be 100% fine with a straight haired Miles with skin complexion like his mom then
Miles fans? No, because they just want MUH BLACK SPIDER MAN
Spider-Man fans? Probably a lot more receptive because we know an agenda isn't being pitched.
I'd be glad if they made Miles white because then even Twitter could admit he's a worthless copycat and we could finally be rid of him
Most people here like Robbie, so probably actually.
Lame plot twist. Literaly ripped off from that one obscure movie known as The Empire Strikes Back.
He's referred to as irish afterwards and Stone's race is never even stated and the Stone name came to Ireland several centuries ago, meaning an Irishman could be called 'Tyler Stone'.
He wants Miguel to scalp Miles and frick Miles' waifu.
so do I... is this the fate of all men with native blood? to kill miles and frick gwen senseless?
It's a canon event anon
>Verification not required
damn...
don't be moronic you know and I know that more european traits are recessive as compared to conchata's presumably mestizo if not indigenous traits
being a dumbass on purpose is how you farm yous and outrage, its the attention they so badly crave but they contribute nothing but being an annoying c**t
>denies the biological reality of Miguel's skin because he knows that he can't defend the fact that he wants a fictional character to be white
>european traits are recessive
Actual moron
the genes that make up the commonly accepted European phenotype are recessive. There is that better?
Genuine moron
takes two to tango anon
He looks native american, vs in the comics where he's white looking
yes but like bane the artists decided to go with a more accurate rendition given the characters heritage. In the same way that bane was made to be brown reflecting his central american mother.
Twitter has rotted your brain, try touching grass before attempting to discuss race and comic faithfulness next time
is making a character's appearance more inline with their racial heritage not a good thing?
You didn't touch grass before making this post anon, what did I tell you that you need to do
>no argument
Concession accepted
don't accept it for me
true but my problem is that people are acting like it's impossible for him to come out looking like that.
We know what Miguel looks like, we have his comics, we also know his racial makeup and that people IRL with the same makeup as him can look the same, changing his appearance to be less faithful to conform to some mentally ill idea twitter has about what his heritage should look like is profound moronation.
I don't have a problem with Miguel being darker and having ethnic features, he looks hotter in the movie anyway. But also it's not unrealistic for someone half white to just look white, that happens pretty often irl
>This is Miguel, he's from the future. He has genetically modified himself to have abilities like a Spider like a venomous bite. He has no spider-sense or micro hairs on his skin, so he has to rely on talons in his fingers to climb. Most of Miguel's villains are technologically and biologically superior, so he has to constantly fight with all his strength.
>This is Miles, he is from modern day, was bitten by a super spider that gave him even better abilities than Peter. He has the ability to control electricity so powerful it can harm someone with electricity. His venom punch is so strong it can oneshot Venom. Also despite being less experienced he can easily defeat Peter and most villains. He goes to a nice school, has both parents that help people in their jobs, and his uncle is also a supervillain turned superhero.
Because he was created before most people here were even born.
Any Diversity that happened when you were a kid or earlier = "Diversity done right"
Any Diversity in fiction that happened after you were a kid = "Woke israeli propaganda"
Cinemaphile has been operating like this for years.
if miles was made 20 years ago, this wouldnt even be a conversation, whataboutism aside
having 50 threads about it daily is making people on both side crazy. I just want to see my wife
Forcing Spider-Man to be Power Rangers because of twitter throwing tantrums deserves 100 threads a day
People make fun of "mandatory diversity characters" regardless of era, like the Planeteers, Power Rangers, Burger King kids club etc
>Their practically the same kind of character with identical presentation, how could you possibly like one over the other?
Bollocks. Public culture is far more focused on race and racist that it was then, and the very terms of what's racist or not have changed with the idea of anti-racisim. The 90's rejected the word "colored people", because each individual person, and each ethnic group should be treated as themselves, and not dumped into a bucked. And now we're back to people of color.
Stick around though. Lurk more. You'll get it.
The only Miles fans I've ever personally met were under 5. I'm not sure how they'd react.
It's because he has a fat ass literally that simple
imagine being on a board for comics and cartoons and hating fun this much
Imagine being so obsessed with your culture war you think it's fun
just have a nice day you brainless loser, no one cares about a race war here but you
Miles literally exists because of the culture war, it's the main motivator behind his every appearance
still havent killed yourself i see heres a tip: cut longways
Mad because bad
waste of space, waste of shitty as bait shitposts, waste of (you)s
See
Miguel was always fun even if some of the 2099 stuff was mid, he has a cool suit and importantly he carried on the Spider-man Legacy instead of being a pathetic usurper
Tl;Dr I read the comics
Im now picturing all of them gangbanging him
Im not even gay
Why did this pop into my head
Because Miguel unlike Miles:
>has actual original stories
>wasn't shoved everywhere
>did got Peter killed to make space for him
>has a personality beyond cardboard cutout
>wasn't made by an oportunist hack
>fans come a long way back and weren't annoying virtue signalers
And last, but no less important
>he's hot
>ya'll
>download
>259x194
HOLY SHIT I'M DONE WITH THESE GARBAGE PHONEhomosexual THREADS
STOP BUMPING THIS SHIT
Hillary lost
Miguel has always been an butthole.
>How come he never triggered ya'll.
>y'all
Holy shit frick off.
Frick you ya Yankee homosexual!
The south will rise again!
>t. Coastal homosexual
Because he is not just Peter but black?
He has 2099 at the end of his title, that helps a whole lot.
That and he was written before 2006.
The frick happened in 2006?
Writer's strike?
He has a sexy ass and breasts
Nah, I remember beaners having a shitfit on this board when Miguel's ItSV design was revealed and how he was brown. They only warmed up to him after the movie came out when it was shown that he was antagonistic towards Miles.
>they warmed up when he was the aggressive muscular chad villain who actually has a logical argument
Yes, people like better characters. Just like how nobody here really likes miles but thinks evil miles could have been cool
Tales from the basement.
>Irish
>he doesn't know
finally an anon that actually knows 2099 lore and isn't screeching about le skin colour
>finally an anon that actually knows 2099 lore
I still have my hardcopies of all the 2099 foil covers.
nice, I'm not one for comic collecting but I imagine it feels really good to still have them in mint(ish) condition
What? Is his father Darth Vader or something?
Basically. Alchemax CEO (the ones who drugged Miguel and lead him into splicing himself)
I refuse to believe it, so it's not canon to the movie (Miguel knows gaelic btw, me uncle told me)
>Miguel knows gaelic
British rapebaby making up nonsense. Eat your potatoes then go to bed patty.
wuh happen?
his mom didn't want her husbands little Irish dick so she fricked his boss
>his mom didn't want her husbands little Irish dick so she fricked his boss
Gabe is younger than Miguel.
>Conchata was into abusive, angry blond men
what did she mean by this?
desu, I can believe she had Gabriel out of guilt for Miguel not being her husband's child
literal pity baby, ironically like most of the Irish
I see it as an indication that the identity politics movement has seriously fricked up race relations inside a very short timespan.
Media used to have ethnically diverse characters such as Miguel, but it wasn't a big deal in the past. However, the identity politics movement promoted the idea of celebrating some specific groups and tolerating shitty behavior from them, while criticizing and blaming some other groups over minor issues. It caused a backlash. That response caused a counter-backlash, which then caused another backlash; a feedback loop of perpetual triggering was created. The end result is that people on both extremes of the political spectrum are hypersensitive and fixated on ethnic representation and other identity issues in media.
They didn't have him celebrate cinco de mayo or push it down your throat he was a me-haw. He was just a gay 90s spiderman vampire. He was always inferior to white peter.
Frick you homosexuals. Read the damn comics before talking shit.
https://pastebin.com/CsDjesYC
He has enough going for him to justify his existance.
Miles is literally nothing but "Spiderman if he black"
He's sexy I don't care.
It has gotten to the point where South American media is much lighter than American, how can we be triggered by people doing it better.
Are Vol. 2-3 any good? I liked V1 a lot.
Race swap is always lazy and shitty but no one cares about race swapping is so over done no one cares anymore.
>Irish
Most moronic twist ever but still
I don't care about new characters who are any one race/gender/sexuality etc, I just care when a character is genuinely replaced. Miles replacing Peter is fine to me idgaf it's the same as Wally replacing Barry in my mind. I don't care if a movie wants to cast Superman as black, it's its own world separate to the comics do what you want. I dislike when those changes bleed over into comics or when comics get rid of old characters to redo them. Examples of this would be Star Lord turning more into his MCU self, Wallace West before he was retconned into being a different person entirely etc. Miguel is his own new character, seperate from Peter and while he's interacted with peter he wasn't created to outright replace him and his existence didn't force changes onto Peter. That's the ideal way to introduce a new character imo. And while I said I don't mind when a character is killed and they introduce a new one like Miles or Barry, it can rub readers the wrong way in cases like Ironheart especially when there's already someone who could fill that role instead (Rhodey).
Miles has Pete's origin.
Miguel has his own origin.
Miles has Pete's powers +
Miguel has his own powers.
Miles has Pete's villains
Miguel has his own villains (barring one similar name)
Miles has Pete's personality.
Miguel has his own personality (he's really not as quippy nor does he try to be).
Miles has Pete's costume with a different colour scheme.
Miguel has his own costume (off the rack, but still)
Miles is in Pete's setting.
Miguel is in his own setting.
Miles relies(relied?) on Pete's supporting cast.
Miguel had his own supporting cast.
I couldn't, in good faith, recommend Miles' comics to anyone.
I could, in good faith, recommend Miguel's comics.
1. Cinemaphile doesn't read comics.
2. He looks pretty white at a glance.
>tfw I brainwashed myself as a kid into thinking Spiderman Unlimited = Spiderman 2099 until a few months ago
It was originally planned to be 2099 but was supposedly changed because 'It would confuse kids' and 'Peter would be more popular'. So instead they confused everyone by making a sequel (yet not-sequel) of TAS and setting it on another Earth on the other side of the sun that is identical except it has furries. Because that makes sense.
>and setting it on another Earth on the other side of the sun that is identical except it has furries. Because that makes sense.
That did come from comics but not Spider-Man comics
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Counter-Earth_(High_Evolutionary)
It's just weird to even have Spider-Man involved with this at all
All that peni x miles shipping is mental gymnastics so Miguel can ram his wiener in Gwen, the basic female self insert (for now till she makes the troony reveal)
Is him being half latino part of Miguel's comics at all? I remember hearing about him years ago but I never checked out the stuff he was in, I also always assumed he was just white.
He was created before race was a weapon used to bludgeon the reader with how progressive the writer is so no it's not important at all
I see, thanks Anon.
You know Spain is a thing, right? I know a couple of white Carlos as well.
How many white guys do you know named Miguel?
Alot actually
How many white guys do you know named O'Hara?
He visits mexico, participates in the day of the dead, and his costume is a mass produced costume for day of the dead.
That's about it. His mom's latina, but other than her appearance it doesn't really determine her character.
I see, thanks dude.
Is him being half Irish part of Miguel's story at all either? Every time this character is brought up it's mentioned that he's mexican/irish and neither ethnicity seems to effect his character at all, is it just brought up to explain his weird name?
No not really, it's just something to make him stand out as his own character, because how many Irish Mexican superheroes do you know? Neither of his parents ethnicities does anything aside from some flavour text
How many characters even have their ethnicities do something? wait there's a meme with lightning and black dudes, shit...
It’s time to admit people don’t hate Miles because he’s black, they hate him because he’s a mediocre character
People have been saying that since day 1