kirby taking a piss at DC "your characters are overly edgy so here is my collection of weirdos from planet satan".
Granny Goodness is also pretty fricking goofy.
>KIRBY: It came about very simply. I came in [to the Marvel offices] and they were moving out the furniture, they were taking desks out and I needed the work! I had a family and a house and all of a sudden Marvel is coming apart. Stan Lee is sitting on a chair crying. He didn't know what to do, he's sitting in a chair crying he was just still out of his adolescence. I told him to stop crying. I says. Go in to Martin and tell him to stop moving the furniture out, and I'll see that the books make money. And I came up with a raft of new books and all these books began to make money. Somehow they had faith in me. I knew I could do it, but I had to come up with fresh characters that nobody had seen before. I came up with The Fantastic Four. I came up with Thor. Whatever it took to sell a book I came up with. Stan Lee has never been editorial minded. It wasn't possible for a man like Stan Lee to come up with new things or old things for that matter. Stan Lee wasn't a guy that read or that told stories. Stan Lee was a guy that knew where the papers were or who was coming to visit that day. Stan Lee is essentially an office worker, OK? I'm essentially something else: I'm a storyteller. My job is to sell my stories. When I saw this happening at Marvel I stopped the whole damned bunch. I stopped them from moving the furniture! Stan Lee was sitting on some kind of a stool, and he was crying.
People give Jack Kirby way, way too much credit. At best, he's completely unreliable for his account of how things went down.
Sure, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Kirby didn't even read the final stories that were put on the racks though. He had no understanding of the Lee's contributions.
His animosity toward Stan Lee had him making wild claims. Some of Kirby's more absurd claims being that he created Spider-Man and Superman.
Gil Kane used to steal pages from the office(when they used to keep them for years) and sell them at conventions and when confronted about it, he'd just shrug and say "well, you got me, my boy!"
His method of handling was to just put his name and dialogue over it. Jack's DC stuff is all better than his Marvel work with the exception of certain parts of FF.
I wonder whats the reasoning behind Captain Victory never being collected
just Kirby's name on it would mean it would sell decently enough to older comic book fans
kirby taking a piss at DC "your characters are overly edgy so here is my collection of weirdos from planet satan".
Granny Goodness is also pretty fricking goofy.
hate on Stan all you want but he knew how to handle Jack's diarrhea of ideas
So Kirby was just a pussy?
Kirby probably didn't want to lose his job
>KIRBY: It came about very simply. I came in [to the Marvel offices] and they were moving out the furniture, they were taking desks out and I needed the work! I had a family and a house and all of a sudden Marvel is coming apart. Stan Lee is sitting on a chair crying. He didn't know what to do, he's sitting in a chair crying he was just still out of his adolescence. I told him to stop crying. I says. Go in to Martin and tell him to stop moving the furniture out, and I'll see that the books make money. And I came up with a raft of new books and all these books began to make money. Somehow they had faith in me. I knew I could do it, but I had to come up with fresh characters that nobody had seen before. I came up with The Fantastic Four. I came up with Thor. Whatever it took to sell a book I came up with. Stan Lee has never been editorial minded. It wasn't possible for a man like Stan Lee to come up with new things or old things for that matter. Stan Lee wasn't a guy that read or that told stories. Stan Lee was a guy that knew where the papers were or who was coming to visit that day. Stan Lee is essentially an office worker, OK? I'm essentially something else: I'm a storyteller. My job is to sell my stories. When I saw this happening at Marvel I stopped the whole damned bunch. I stopped them from moving the furniture! Stan Lee was sitting on some kind of a stool, and he was crying.
People give Jack Kirby way, way too much credit. At best, he's completely unreliable for his account of how things went down.
He's just about as reliable or unreliable as Stan.
Sure, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Kirby didn't even read the final stories that were put on the racks though. He had no understanding of the Lee's contributions.
His animosity toward Stan Lee had him making wild claims. Some of Kirby's more absurd claims being that he created Spider-Man and Superman.
Everything about their respective bodies of work support this statement.
Just look at what each of them worked on before they got together.
Probably ADHD. He needed someone to keep him on track.
Drawing and writing are two totally different skills. Most can not do both.
Really explains the Roger segments from X-Play.
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Man Gil Kane didn't mince words
Kirby liked having a job.
Gil Kane used to steal pages from the office(when they used to keep them for years) and sell them at conventions and when confronted about it, he'd just shrug and say "well, you got me, my boy!"
His method of handling was to just put his name and dialogue over it. Jack's DC stuff is all better than his Marvel work with the exception of certain parts of FF.
Lee made Kirby's ideas palatable for normalgays. The Marvel era wouldn't exist without Lee, but Kirby peaked artistically in his solo work.
I wonder whats the reasoning behind Captain Victory never being collected
just Kirby's name on it would mean it would sell decently enough to older comic book fans
Black Rider looks like a Silver Surfer parody you'd see in Mad magazine or something.
It's easier to strike more majestic poses when your hand aren't full.
Vince Coletta
It's just too busy, feel SS gets a pass since he's monochromatic.