How come there hasn't yet been a modern movie adaptation of Dante's Inferno?
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How come there hasn't yet been a modern movie adaptation of Dante's Inferno?
What do you think the movie Requiem For A Dream was about?
>Reddit For a Dream
Jews
meds and BBC
bbc is medicine
Kinda proving the point
They don't believe in hell so yes. Its part of why they are so fricked
Make your own shit you dumb parasites
Drug addiction unless you're a pseud
Inferno with T. Hanks
Because other than some cool depictions of torment, the story is an Italian man walking and gloating over the damned's suffering. While being obsessed with Florence's political climate in the 13th century because the author was a fanfiction tier self insert.
>Because other than some cool depictions of torment, the story is an Italian man walking and gloating over the damned's suffering.
Kino
Bing Crosby was a fricking animal
>tfw 10 year old niece would always take the Divine Comedy from my shelf and keep gazing at this cover
Hope she didn't take any ideas from it
she will probably BJJ submits all the dudes she gets with
>he can’t appreciate a fantastical fever dream vision of hell for what it is
sad
Your fairy tales from an ancient book aren't real.
Neither is fricking Harry Potter but I bet you eat that shit up
the divine comedy is a medieval book, it’s also a better work of art than any balding gaytheist will ever create. go back to your capeshit champ
>atheist inferno
>just the 9 different stages of becoming a troony, not getting validated, then roping
Kek
the state of you tbh
you see the divine comedy as a fairy tale and not as a political commentary
luckily Italian school makes you study the whole of it
Sorry for the late post guys but I forgot to tell you how extremely gay I am
DMT influenced
>relishing on the damned suffering
>obsessed with the political climate of his time
>writes self insert fanfiction
Woah, I hadn't noticed Dante is literally me.
Oh look it’s an atheist homosexual who never read it and got his opinion from youtube or reddit
What about my summary was wrong, projecting moron?
because it’s literally what every single moron poseur who doesn’t read says about it. he constantly pities the damned, he literally faints out of sympathy multiple times. it’s easy to spot a pseud when they regurgitate canned phrases nobody who actually read the book agrees with
>Constantly
Apart from the souls he wasn't politically aligned with you mean? He starts off sympathetic but by the end he's a sadist who gets off on the suffering.
This is just false though. He has plenty of people he admired in hell, as well as his political allies. He also puts some of his enemies in heaven. Again, you haven’t read it so you’re just trying to wing a discussion about it assuming that everyone you reply to is as ignorant as you are.
>You don't like this specific Christian/Greek mythology fanfiction
>YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD IRL REEEEE
Explain your reasoning.
you literally replied afterward seething about it being based on a fairy tale. let me guess actually, that was some random guy who just decided to take up the chain of argument you set up and now he’s gone and you’re back?
I accept your concession.
the Divine Comedy is literally impossible to discuss with Americans because they always end up dismissing it as a
>self insert isekai of a simp
i still haven't found the audience mature enough to discuss it in here. even Cinemaphile just talks about Dante with memes
i think contemporary culture has rotten your brains
Y wud u come to Cinemaphile for "discussion?" Do you like Republican bots or something? Go to a book club or a literature course at a university.
>the Divine Comedy is literally impossible to discuss with Americans
tbh can't imagine reading the terzine in a language that isn't italian
do schools abroad read it translated or original with explanation?
My favorite meme is that its the Big Bang Theory of its day.
holy shit if the replies ITT aren't proof enough of what you just said
is Cinemaphile the dumbest board in here?
There isnt a single intelligent board on Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile
nobody's gonna talk about the Divine Comedy
I would, but I haven't read it. :^)
It is the dark souls of literature though
>>self insert isekai of a simp
Because it is, doesn't mean I dismiss it though, sounds more like a strawman to me
If you hate Americans so much then why are you on an American website? Go to whatever shit websites your third world country operates instead, subhuman.
The american hate is something americans will never understand. Imagine that you have an autistic fat big brother that hangs around with mischievous kids who make him do what they want (jews). You lose sympathy in the long run and eventually hate settles in
I don't care. Seethe.
Yeah but most haters aren't like that. They want even more israeli shit and get mad at us for not having it.
>he’s jealous that americans are the main characters of the world
Keep seething lol
Why are fedoras so anti art?
the vast majority of good art is christian and they have an ideological imperative to seethe at it
Not really. Autismos just don't understand metaphor or literature because they have no recognizable human emotions. Well, maybe they have anger. But that's it. Same as the republicans shilling on the internet.
>Same as the republicans shilling on the internet.
Why are you so obsessed over this? You come off like someone who does not have testicles but has never been a woman.
Obsessed with what? Like 95% of the posts on here are Republican shills. Pointing that out makes me obsessed? I guess you think that troony posting is obsessive too then, rite?
>Italian man walking and gloating over the damned's suffering
sounds like kino
>the story is an Italian man walking and gloating over the damned's suffering.
Hey look, someone who hasn’t read Inferno!
modern day dante would be walking over trump, school shooters and transphobes
Trump would be satan
King of the israelites? yea. And Obaama would eating bloody shit out his ass.
>ridiculing prominent successful people
modern day dante would walk over Pelosi, Newsome, Merkel, Trudeau, Soros for intentional evil, but also Trump and Sanders for their impotence and ineffectiveness. and also Xi and Kim Jong Un, becuase Dante didn't have a full understanding of politics in his time, so a few confused potshots belong in there too.
This kind of. It is an epic tale but he also wrote in parts for current politicians he opposed. He let his fragile feelings get in the way of his work truly being great.
I'm italian, studied the Divine Comedy in HS, it's overrated as hell. Too much time spent with dante having boring dialogue with people he deemed important either from history, his life, mythology or religion. There's no hook, no momentum driving the story forward. The chapter starts, we get to see what the new plane/layer/step is like, Dante and Virgil meet somebody, long dialogue, maybe a few more descriptions, rinse and repeat.
Would be worse than Promessi sposi if it wasn't for the cool fantasy elements Dante came up with
i mean the whole thing is basically a big politically motivated book of insults written in spite/revenge against people he had beef with or disagreed politically with, and his most effective way of telling them to go frick themselves was depicting them being tortured in hell in the most horrific and poetically ironic ways he could think of
All italian poets of the same current as Dante (whose names I forgot) were basically modern day autists/polcels writing fanfiction to vent their frustration with unobtainable pussy and shitty politics. And they all had waifus too.
Not even memeing, it's a direct analogue.
>walking and gloating over the damned's suffering
This is how Christians cope with their shitty lives.
>This is how everyone copes with their shitty lives.
ftfy
Except they’re far happier on average than atheists so uhh....
they did make one, its just an underrated bayonetta rip
%27sLittlePlayground
Why are right wingers so sensitive?
>9th circle: Treachery
>being a traitor is worse than being a thief, murderer, rapist etc
Yeah.
it was a diferent time...
Also I'm pretty sure homosexuals got a worse punishment than murderers kek
Those go to the second circle.
Dorè is Basè
Interestingly I don't think pedos are mentioned, I could be wrong tho
Christinaty is full of pedos. Are you really that surprised?
Well Dante WAS Catholic so...
thats why he was excommunicated ?
Meanwhile, back in the real world. Pic related.
Nice context, here's per capita:
>catholic priests: 815 per 100k
>public school employees: 432 per 100k
Now do rabbis
now just compare teachers and priests instead of the entirety of school staff to just priests instead of the entirety of church staff statistics brainlet
Homosexuals are mentioned
why would they? pedos werent a thing, people back then understood girls were fertile after the first blood so their parents married them and no one cared.
I'm pretty sure homosexuals are mentioned somewhere
Lmao muh pedophilia is feminist propaganda. Sodomy was sure a sin, but girls were deemed marriage material around 16 in Europe, maybe earlier. They had no chance to be diddled by anyone before that unless incest took place.
In general women not prostituting themselves rarely copulated outside marriage. How it should be. Pedophila would be non existent if we went back to those ways
>rarely copulated outside marriage
women (and men) cheated all the time. Ottomans sequestered their women in harems (literally translated to female dormitory), and Chinese employed eunuchs specifically to prevent women from cheating. peasants could afford no such luxuries, so their women cheated all the time. that's how you get honor killings, witch burnings, etc. and of course prominent men would never actually admit to getting cucked.
>source: my dick
My source: Medieval civilization, 400-1500: Le Goff
(excepting nobles for whom marriages are political marriage and siring of an heir is the primary function)
why do you expect written records of a random peasant bawd cheating or premarital sex in general? if the husband/father complained to anybody, the two most likely reactions would be either 1) getting her executed by stoning for the sin of adultery, or 2) "lol, your own fault for not beating your wife/daughter enough, live and learn you dumb cuck." 3) the entire industry of chastity cages was created to prevent rampant, opportunistic, premarital sex. why do you incels deny the existence of common exeryday sexual (mis)relations, unless proven by autistic-level primary source material of a 13th century divorce court or shotgun wedding registry? everyone except you fricks.
Holy frick I'm not expecting a written account (even if Boccaccio is basically that, not that you know of him you swine) but at least cite an historian that sustains tour theory. Wait... could it be that you made it up yourself following your gut feeling? Black person I don't really know what you are hinting at with this "incel" strawman shit. Of course they didn't cheat because they weren't allowed to, I'm not saying it's not natural to cheat, you mongrel.
Get off that discord server trust me
>the entire industry of chastity cages
Only purchased and purchseable only by very few nobles in some regions of precise countries. Ofc you are going to invest in your daughter's future if you count on an important political marriage. That doesn't mean that they fricked around, it's to prevent the impregnation and subsequent "wrong" marriage. Condoms didn't exist and were banned so promiscous sex wasn't really an option
Let me guess you also think prima nocta existed
it's literally every little girl's dream to frick a prince. grampa only complains because he's stuck with feeding a bastard.
Pedos would probably be in the second circle
You don’t see how all those stem from betraying someone in some way? It’s the mens rea that leads to all that
Always kill a traitor before the enemy, Jimbo.
Anon, don't be moronic. If you rob or kill your son or a friend it's morally worse than killing someone you don't even know. Think about it logically.
Back in the day people were more violent as a matter of course.
Killing people wasn't so widely condemned due to the wide ways available to justify it.
Being a traitor in the loyalty bound feudal system (instead of the modern bureaucratic system) was anti-social and ate away at the bounds of society.
Yep.
Thieves and murderers are a drain on society but betrayers will absolutely wreck it from within.
>Betrayal is AOK in modern society
Are you israeli, by any chance?
No one views being a traitor to your country as such a deep sin, correct.
It's still true though, that betrayers destroy society, no matter what the ruling trash or average NPC believes.
lol well I know not to trust your stupid ass
dumb frick
Yes the basis of love, society, morality is trust. "The only thing worse than a hater, is a traitor"
Female sin, they do it constantly so it's even worse if a man does it.
getting murdered by a stranger sucks but getting murdered by your best friend or brother or mom or something is more suckier
That's because treachery is thievery, murder and rape but to someone that has your trust. You expect some rando to steal your shit but a friend or family?
It' basically evil shit on top of evil shit.
Seems right to me.
It is
Judas are the worst type of sinners
being betrayed by a close friend is way worse than any of that. but I wouldn't expect someone with no friends to understand
"Frick my political enemies!"
-Author
Also, Cinemaphile related.
everyone makes mistakes or get's caught up in vices but treachery, which is not just betrayal but 1st degree premeditated betrayal of someone who trusts you is pure evil.
I think Dante depicts 9 circles of hell as a symmetrical inversion of the classical angelic hierarchy, the "9 choirs of angels". The highest of the angels are the seraphim, which stand nearest to the throne of God and burn with love for Him. It stands to reason that the opposite of this is treachery, the inversion of the seraphic love for one's Lord.
snitches get stitches - even in hell
yep. Kinslaying is pretty universal across religions as the worst sin, followed by inhospitability to guests. Pretty much all religions make sense when viewed through the lens as best practices for X economic situation.
honor actually mattered back then
Dante was assfricked by some kind of tricky politics if im not mistaken. Also you sound like a woman or a very, very lucky and pampered man, good for you
Yes? What's the issue here?
checks out
Who do you blame more? The snake who bites you or the traitor who opened the door for him? This is why I hate shabbos goys more than israelites btw
Theft- alot of theft is done out of necessity ie starving or desperation
Murder- not always unjustified ie killing someone who raped your daughter.
Rape- yeah fair
But theft and Murder aren't worse than treachery because they are possibly justified whereas treachery is wholly wrong
House that jack built
some people just like to complain. they pretend they like fancy things but when you give it to them it enter one ear and exit the other to be forgotten instantly: they are poseurs.
Anon please that'd mean people watching movies
Great movie.
Because it's pleb tier. The true emotional climax happens at the end of Purgatory
It’s like with the original dune series, 90 percent of the readers never go past the first book
I just read the first book and hated it. Why should I continue with the series?
90 minutes of straight torture porn would get old.
If we got the entire divine comedy in a single movie I think it would be pretty good though.
I think the game and animated movie are the best we're gonna get, but a big budget live action would be kino af
>mfw Dante's game is just a jap hack and slash instead of a slightly pretentious walk simulator where you get to solve puzzles and talk with Virgil about philosophy and eschatology in kind of a Doré-sque/Dark Souls aesthetic setting
why fricking live man
Ya but then you don't get to pelvic thrust cleopatra to death after you fight her on the penis tower in the orgasm tornado
Me in the bottom left
i just want a good hollow earth kino
because its unadaptable and the ramblings of a sperg upset about Italian politics. Inferno is the worst part of the divine comedy because Dante uses it as a bludgeon to insult everyone he disagrees with. at least him fellating himself in Paradiso and Purgatorio he isn't beating the reader over the head with how bad Pisa or Genoa is and saying frick this particular King or Pope.
why do midwits obsess over the inferno so much where it’s the first part of an interconnected whole? it’s literally unfinished without the other two parts. why does the paradiso and purgatorio filter midwits so badly?
>why do midwits obsess over the inferno so much
Because Hell is le scary,edgy and cool
Because the second part is about redemption and self improvement and the third contains a ton of shit you won’t understand without reading aristotle and aquinas. morons just know the hell circle thing and would never actually sit down and read the poem.
The plot and characters all suck and the only good part of the entire trilogy is the interesting depictions of what hell would be like.
How has literally no one mentioned As Above, So Below? It's not an exact recreation of Dante's Inferno, but very similar.
for me for my money its the Cherubim
Hell, simply put, is an eternity without God. That isnt sufficient, and tough to put into words in a way that would suffice to impress upon an 80 IQ normie the misery that would entail so obviously the imagery of hellfire and pain are important
But the reality is an eternity without Gods eternal love and grace is the most terrifying reality there is. You could also say that a life of sin and the rejection of God is a hell in and of itself and I'm inclined to agree, that's why I do my best to pray daily and live a pious, chaste life befitting of a servant of God.
The thing is when you actually understand dante and what he was trying to do it’s one of the greatest human accomplishments ever. You have to understand “mid way through life’s journey I strayed from the true path” sets the entire thing up as allegory. He is attempting to portray the entire range of human experience possible, from the most cruel and grotesque to a vision of all existence in God. He repeatedly points out that the people in hell choose to be there and willingly board charons boat, that if they had love or a conscience they wouldn’t be there. For example you’ve got that guy being punished for lust trapped in a fiery orb because he’s terrified of people seeing him and knowing what he’s done, and the guy in purgatory who willingly leaps into a chasm of fire because he wants to be a better person. If you can’t understand what dante is trying to portray you are just a midwit, he’s not lording over damned people and puts a lot of respectful characters he admired in life in hell. He is saying the life they experience in hell is simply a continuation of the life they chose to lead on earth, and that if they would only blame themselves for their fate they’d be free, but they don’t want to be free
It's actually even deeper than that. But your boring obsession with morality will never allow you to see even greater spiritual vistas.
>the comedy is not about morality
cope.
It is of course about morality. But it is about much more than morality. But you're a child so you will never understand, as I stated very clearly in my first post.
I’m not disputing that so I don’t why you seethed at me. I just think the structure of the poem creates moral parallels between individual souls in hell, purgatory and heaven to show states of spiritual development. I know there’s a ton of esoteric philosophical shit as well.
>Muh so deep
>You child!
>Can't explain why is muh deep
Are you too one of those pretentious step-near-tomb old bastards?
I like how you have 50 redditors who have never read a book posting the “he’s just insulting political enemies” midwit take and this gets ignored
The whole “my favorite poet ever is here and he thinks I’m badass” and then “now the hottest stacy ever who didn’t like me is showing me heaven and might even kiss me on the cheek if I’m lucky!” is such a goofy fanfiction-tier premise and you can’t deny it.
Whoops, except you haven’t read it and are just regurgitating shit you saw on reddit. He has plenty of people he admired burning in hell and plenty of people he hated in heaven. The entire point of putting contemporaries, historical figures and mythical figures in was to show the timeless nature of the subject matter and the places he went to. It’s not an objective criticism to seethe because people he knew were in it. But again, you don’t read and spout second hand takes like an RLM fan
>The entire point of putting contemporaries, historical figures and mythical figures in was to show the timeless nature of the subject matter and the places he went to.
so he picks the poet he was obsessed with in life and the stacy from high school that he always wanted to frick? lmfao
>the beautiful language and philosophical depth doesn’t matter, he did a heckin fanfic!!
plotgays deserve to die. you will never understand poetry. go seethe at shakespeare for having silly cross dressing comedy
I didn’t say it was bad writing, I was just saying the plot was silly. Calm down there.
I’m not the anon you were arguing with earlier, I was just saying that the “isekai” thing does have merit.
It would be too homophobic
>How come there hasn't yet been a modern movie adaptation of Dante's Inferno?
It's unfilmable fan fiction.
Imagine if time travel was invented and we could back in time and see how jesus's miracles were all false, and that he was just a false prophet that wanted to manipulate people into thinking that he's a god. Imagine how broken the morons you replied to would be, kek.
>hahahha imagine impossible sci fi bullshit ahaha imagine if that proved my opinion was correct ahahah that would btfo people who don’t think like me
omegacope
>if back to the future was real you’d all see that i’m right
Sure pal...
>Imagine if time travel was invented
Based sciencecuck, you're the modern equivalent of religioncucks, but worse.
>religion le bad
>science le bad
What now?
>AHHHHH YOU DONT THINK IN BINARIES IM GOING INSANE
die american.
Every high culture is founded on a religion.
No I DIDNT ask you too.
Well what now?
Are you agnostic?
Are you a sketpic?
Imagine if time travel was invented and we could back in time and see how Jesus's miracles were all true, and that he was God Himself that came to save people from eternal death. Imagine how atheist reddit and all would seethe with UFO theories or some new age drugs just not to look in the spiritual mirror that reveals their nature
>go back in time
>Jesus stares straight at you and says "I know what you're up to, homosexual." in modern English and then says your full name, home address, and social security number
Jesus himself said that it was his words that justified him and that the miracles were done for people who were slow to believe his words.
>YOU WILL *NOT* READ THE GREATEST EPIC POEM EVER WRITTEN
>YOU WILL *NOT* DISCUSS RELIGIOUS ART
i’ll do what I want, thanks
>THE GREATEST EPIC POEM EVER WRITTEN
you rang?
good morning sirs
Very good morning sir!
it's filled with popular political/religious/cultural figures of the time that the author didn't like. can you imagine how much Cinemaphile and twitter would seethe seeing their favorite 20th century figures being depicted in a CGI hellscape of eternal damnation?
>the divine comedy
>isn't funny at all
>mass replying and seething agaib
meanwhile christians are too afraid to kill themselves because some bearded man that supposedly loves them will turn them into trees
Why would content people kill themselves? You realise not everyone suffers from gender dysphoria?
>no raw population figures
>only major christian category, no ~~*them*~~, muslims, buddhists, etc.
>subdivides only protestants by race
>only mentions evangelicals, no mentions of methodists, baptists, lutherans, pentacostals, LDS.
>wtf is the church of "mainline"
>"nothing in particular" category unintentionally implies that athiesm is just as much a beleif system as any other religion.
Pew used to be so professional, the contamination of this institution is honestly more damaging than the actual trannies.
The Divine Comedy isn't "canonical" to the Christian religion (or any religion for that matter). As an atheist, you could very well read it, and learn something from it without turning you religious.
why the frick would I read anything, never mind christcuck nonsense, when videos that can give me efficient concise information exist? you morons would still be defending books even if tech existed to download their contents instantly into your brain. the fact is it was written in the dark ages and is only liked because it’s old and people sucked it off for years because nothing better existed
Black person try making more subtle baits, this shit is too obvious and it stops being funny
Reminder that you didn't actually read the book if you didn't read it in Italian
>but muh translation
No, you read a fanfic
Based
>169300634
not my hecking yous
>descending into transphobic shit... again
Rent. Free.
>hates God because he we will never be a woman
many such cases!
The House that Jack Built
>169300755
ALL HAIL OUR TURTLE OVERLORD,BLESSED BE HIS SHELL
LETTUCE LEAVES AND SUNNY PONDS WILL COME TO YOU BUT ONLY IF YOU REPLY:
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE!
who
>Dante inferno
>No mention of transgenderism
>This thread
JUST
>thread about the greatest poem ever written
>Cinemaphileidiots post wojaks
i can tell who's a burger from the way you post
>the greatest poem ever written
kinda true
no Dante means no Risorgimento
no Risorgimento means no European countries ruling the world
Meh, brits would still have colonized everything.
brits got all their tech from the dutch
the formerly spanish hapsburg dutch.
the modern west needs a modern (chang) martin luther to to decry the ~~*papacy*~~.
>it will be followed by 200 years of persecuting nationalist-protestants, and multiple civil wars
>no one wins the conquest victory, but the economic system containing rational actors fricks off to the moon, winning the tech victory.
see
FRICK GHIBELLINI
what was the contrappasso for treachery again?
As if israelites would ever allow this sort of Christiankino to be made
Why do you think the media had such a meltdown over the passion
Meltdown?
several israeli nuclear reactors exploded when the film released
That never happen.
>would be extremely expensive
>episodic in nature, has no strong ongoing narrative
>would offend modern audiences because of all the religious references and condemnations of sin
It's too Catholic and too hard to film. I could see a 1950s black & white, stylised version of it done by Shakespearean actors as a TV series being highly Kino, but it would have attracted a small audience. Even most Catholics these days don't like contemplating hell.
>don't like contemplating hell.
you're not supposed to like it, but its good for you like making children eat vegetables
the house that jack built
>trying to discuss Cinemaphile on Cinemaphile
the most here people have read are a few pages of blood meridian and book of the new sun cause genre fiction attracts manchildren all over from Cinemaphile to Cinemaphile
"THROUGH me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:
To rear me was the task of power divine,
Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
"All hope abandon ye who enter here."
Such characters in colour dim I mark'd
Over a portal's lofty arch inscrib'd:
Whereat I thus: "Master, these words import
Hard meaning." He as one prepar'd replied:
"Here thou must all distrust behind thee leave;
Here be vile fear extinguish'd. We are come
Where I have told thee we shall see the souls
To misery doom'd, who intellectual good
Have lost.
>who intellectual good have lost.
In medieval Catholic theology, the intellect ('intellectus') is considered by the likes of Aquinas to be the 'highest faculty of the soul', so the loss of 'intellectual good' essentially means the loss of any spiritual joy or happiness. Aquinas considers the highest possible happiness to be the direct contemplation of the essence of God through the intellectus, the 'beatific vision', the eternal loss of which is the greatest punishment the damned receive. The Divine Comedy ends with Dante receiving a foretaste of the beatific vision in paradise, where he sees the "love that moves the stars".
>love that moves the stars
>gives humanity free will and thus the ability to make our own choices, but if you don't make the choices he wants you to, he'll make you'll burn in hell forever
>"Let's go a few billion years before adding intelligent life, but I'll tell them it happened in a week and I won't tell them about the trillions of lifeforms that died before them so when they discover their fossils and learn more about the past they will start to doubt My existence."
>reject god
>you don’t spend eternity with him
WOOOOWWWW
>give zero actual proof of your existence
>create dinosaurs that you don't tell anyone about
>create very believable signs that hint how humans evolved from fish and monkeys, but insist with your "roastie made from dirt was tricked by snake" story
>people stop believing in you as time goes on
WOOOOWWW
>I don’t accept the fact anything exists as proof so there’s no proof
>for some reason the fact that huge pre historic chickens aren’t in the bible is a huge plot hole
Huh
Those pre historic chickens disprove what the bible says and how the earth was supposedly made in 7 days.
You could have just said days couldn’t exist before the sun did, but I guess that one went over your head. Even in augustines day people didn’t take the week literally because again, you can’t have days before the sun exists.
>you can’t have days before the sun exists.
This is disinfo. The Scripture says that God first created light, days before the sun, moon, and stars. So obviously light isn't intrinsically attached to stars as modern propaganda would have it. Perhaps the light God originally made is what we call electromagnetic radiation generally, and that shifts in this radiation could account for time / day-night before the sun and moon marked it out more specifically.
Big bang
You are dumber than children from even 200 years ago. You just don't have a good dad.
>we
>are
>stardust!
>NOTHINGNESS somehow EXPLODED into space, time, energy and the laws of physics
>after this random atoms flew around for NO REASON until they randomly happened to create the extremely delicate and precise conditions life could exist in on earth, thanks to the nothing that exploded exploding into just the right subatomic conditions that could support consciousness
>then the random atoms started to become alive because... well because they just randomly did, okay. they started to replicate by accident and made germs
>and the germs changed into fish that randomly by pure chance particle spasms developed extremely complex organs to capture light and represent images to a conscious brain despite being totally blind that had a precisely balanced chemical makeup that the random spastic atoms from the big nothing that created everything happened to make
>and then these water breathing fish started to breathe oxygen because... well because of the autistic whizzing aimless atoms, and then in a gorillion years the fish were monkeys because... because they just fricking were!!!!
>and that’s why you are here
>and everything you see and can conceive of just happens to be there because of the unconscious totally senseless collision of atoms that the nothing created that somehow just happened to pinball until they made an accurate representation of reality inside the most complex organ in existence and this was all meaningless and random and just happened to occur
>oh yes, and despite all this my specific political, moral and scientific beliefs about this ludicrously insane complicated world my random atom brain that exists on extremely delicate perfect conditions just happened to evolve to understand (there is no reason the data we receive should be accurate, just useful) and that the determined and causal chemicals in said brain made me believe, are undeniably true and you’re a chud if you don’t think the same
>NOTHINGNESS somehow EXPLODED into space, time, energy and the laws of physics
Makes as much sense as god not having a beginning and somehow never being born.
Evolutionists literally believe that fish turning into giraffes isn't magic if it happens gradually over millions of years. They literally think time is magic, and that if you have enough of it anything can transform into anything.
Are you really too braindead to comprehend the logic in a basic biology book?
This is what I don't understand about Christian logic
>God loves us so much he gave us free will! If he didn't give us free will, then he wouldn't truly love us!
Sure, but free will is what causes you go to hell. I would much rather have no free will, no ability to sin, and thus no possibility of ending up in hell
Life isn't meant to be easy after satan told Eve to eat from the gnostic tree. Who you gonna follow?
>I would much rather have no free will, no ability to sin, and thus no possibility of ending up in hell
And this no ability to truly love God.
>every single rational instinct tells you things don’t spontaneously come to exist from nothingness
>claim the universe did that
>say morality is subjective
>still think the idea of eternal punishment is bad for some reason
>we don't know what created the universe
>hmm it must have been made by a magical israelite who doesn't want you to work on sunday or jerk off
Why do christcucks fill in anything they don't know about the universe with "God did it!"
oh look and there go the goalposts from “god doesn’t exist” to “i don’t know”, shocker
>eternal punishment is bad
Yes, because rehabilitation exists, you moron. That's why the american prison system is so fricked.
Also
>every single rational instinct tells you things don’t spontaneously come to exist from nothingness
>claim that god* did that
>moron misses the point
why is rehabilitation objectively good? the entire point was that morality is made up nonsense in your view and then you make huge moral statements about right and wrong. on what standard is eternal punishment bad?
>on what standard is eternal punishment bad?
On the standard that god supposedly loves us, and yet he's willing to put us in eternal torture for not believing in him instead of actually giving real proof of his existence.
You're a moron and a ship.
I see that you evaded saying why that was objectively bad or immoral because you can’t coherently fo that. And you know what they say, if you love something set it free. If some homosexual decides he hates you and doesn’t want to spend forever with you, why should he be made to? Go live without god forever, it’s an option.
Making something that you created be forever tortured because of something that you gave to it is objectively bad and immoral by most standards. It's the equivalent of letting your dog roam in a room with a body of water inside it, and, when he enters it and drowns, you're saying that it was his choice.
Christians are really moronic when they see depictions of hell and people being in horrible torment just because they didn't have faith, and then go "W-W-WELL ACKSHUALLY THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BE THERE!!!!"
Why do brainlets like this even talk? Stuff like this has been talked about for 2k years at length. You never read anything yet you act like you know everything and have some brand new idea thats worth hearing.
>no argument
I accept your concession.
I already suggested a book to someone who was much more reasonable sounding that you. You sound like you have never read a single book in your life from that statement alone.
God isn’t nothingness. Nothingness has zero attributes or existence, it can’t “do” anything.
That makes complete sense if you aren’t a philosophically illiterate moron. Existence being predicted on something that is self sustaining and justifying makes perfect sense.
And science makes complete sense if you aren’t a pseudo-intellectual moron stuck in the middle ages.
>Existence being predicted on something that is self sustaining and justifying makes perfect sense.
Except that you can't comprehend what happened before the big bang happened, when time and space didn't even exist, especially if you're a moron who can't understand basic science.
>american prison system is so fricked.
the prison system is working as intended. it is not intended to benefit your criminal scum cousin.
>tfw no divine comedy epic trilogy in the style of lotr
>tfw no paradise lost adaptation directed by Mel Gibson
>tfw no film depicting the original war of the angels directed by Zack snyder
Yeah there was
>modern
You moron.
>1911
>not modern
I think you're the moron, mate
The point of this thread is that there hasn’t been adaptation past the silent era
It's currently in post production
What's in postproduction
nice goal post move
Cope, you're seething because you're wrong. Stay mad.
>wanting a modern adaptation of anything
who's the moron here
A out and out comedy that might teach the unwashed masses would be a good thing.
*Rolls eyes*
Hey Bros, here we have the Messiah of Cinemaphile the one who will enlight us all with kino nobody wants but itself.
Looks like trash.
and it was kino
it’s bizarre seeing several posts with the same “I haven’t read it” textbook reddit take. like they post this shit despite the fact everyone else they know hasn’t read it also posts it, the exact same opinion. what compels people to do that
because disney would make it
Black dante, black woman Virgil, white Satan
Terry Gilliam should do one. He perfect for it.
What hell level will you Cinemaphileners be heading to? Me, Lust.
Same because I'm a huge coomer
Honestly being blown around in a storm forever doesn't sound THAT bad
https://www.gabrieledellotto.it/el-dante/
kino
Mel Gibsons "Resurrection" film follows Jesus' 3 day journey through Hell and takes inspiration from Dante. Same cast from The Passion. It's currently in post. You will never see more kvetching than when this releases.
Can't wait. Mel Gibson is kino, even the israelites have to begrudgingly admit it.
How are you histrionic homosexuals into movies and film yet still unaware of Mel Gibson Christ Kino on the horizon?
idk
Which layer am I on?
This is just the tutorial
In all likelihood you're in purgatory, or the second book of the divine comedy: Purgatorio.
Limbo has all of the cool people in it and it resembles the Elysian Fields.
I'd be stuck next to Natalie Portman and Sasha Grey as they cry help me, help me, id be like Shut up prostitutes its your fault I'm here!
based
I call upon the powers of the holy trinity; black jesus, homeless jesus and baby jesus, to smite all non-believers in this thread.
what Final Fantasy game is this?
>IS THAT A BIBLICALLY ACCURATE ANGEL!?!?!?
Why these biblical accurate angels look like something someone high on L SD would see?
israeli "prophets" are nothing more than fools gorged on hallucinogenic mushrooms.
How is God supposed to be loving and benevolent while sending his own children to be tormented forever?
>try to discuss classical work of poetry on Cinemaphile
>80 IQ atheists get triggered and flood the thread with this shit
What is actually the difference between you and some troony or leftist? Seriously, it’s a thread about a poem and you see that it’s vaguely related to christianity so your mind virus compels you to start throwing a tantrum and ruin the thread. Do you not see how annoying everyone finds people like you, no matter what the cause of their political meltdown is?
You still couldn't give a proper answer.
why don’t you read dante? because the people in hell actively choose and decide to be there. of course it’s too much to ask for some politics obsessed homosexual to actually sit down and read instead of looking for shit to get mad at people about. americans are genuinely fricking vile
>of course it’s too much to ask for some politics obsessed homosexual to actually sit down and read instead of looking for shit to get mad at people about. americans are genuinely fricking vile
>he says while shilling a poem made by some fanfic writer who inserted all his political views about his city in it
i'm half certain there's a circle for people that actively reject Christ and attempt to sway others away from his love
>How is God supposed to be loving and benevolent while sending his own children to be tormented forever?
If I ever saw my kids abusing my grandkids, I'd fricking murder my own flesh and blood and raise the grandkids on my own. Love =/= tolerating sin
Why did your kids turn out so shitty? The grandchildren will be the same. This is your fault in the first place.
>If
my kids are fine, but there's lots of oops accidental shit trauma out there in the world. a roastie can get raped by a pack of Black folk, refuse to get an abortion, but becomes addicted to SSRI's and moes in with an alcoholic.
also best intentions doesn't mean you can't make mistakes. my 14 yo niece has been indoctrinated by purple hairs who see misogyny in random household objects, and then getting into people's faces about it until they hate her. This is all because they outsourced their due diligence to a ~~*good school district*~~ and unsupervised internet access. parenting mistake? yes. but at a certain point there's nothing you can do with toxic people except cut them out of your life.
this movie kind of loosely touches on it. i mean its a shaky cam found footage mess, but its got some cool set pieces and as far as the found footage stuff its one of the better ones in my opinion. theres only one really cheesy jump scare and another pretty bad visual effect that kind of sour it
I really liked the buried upside down imagery that happened to the leader spelunker. Never got why the Mole was attached so to speak to the woman team mate of his as punishment.
i dont remember, i watched a behind the scenes on it once a few years back and there is actually quite a bit of deeper symbolism to most of the scenes that ties in quite closely with the inferno, the film is a lot less stupid than it initially appears, but if you arent familiar with not only inferno but like crusader lore and a whole bunch of other stuff it just goes right over your head
I'll look around see if I can find it. I'm not very well read so if it wasn't Inferno related odds are I saw, yet failed to appreciate the historical bits.
This is the only found footage i can sit through.
>he doesn't know
I guess Cinemaphile really doesn't watch anything but capeshit.
Since Dante's Inferno is literally just fanfic, does that mean everyone in hell gets equal punishment according to actual Christian theology?
I dunno, it seems pretty unfair that a virtuous atheist would get the same punishment as abhorrent criminals and murderers
it means whatever you want it to mean. its all fanfic
Lol, nice catch grampa
Shit, meant for
Read The Great Divorce by CS Lewis
>unfair
>judging God using human ethics.
>God: stop anthropomorphizing me!
>What Dreams May Come
Pic-related is Virgil. Kek.
According to dante, being gay is worse the genocide
Since sodomites are pushed in the ring below where bloody conquers and murders are
Yeah, and?
Name me 1 game that doesn't feature Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
It's too based.
>we will never get a sitcom about Julius Ceaser living the rest of eternity in limbo experiencing the wacky apathetic adventures with other historical figures
>Adapt DeviantArt tier fanfiction
Nah
nobody cares what mediocre morons who don’t read think
Anyone else played this game? It was a god of war ripoff, but it was still fricking awesome
I did and it was great but my ps3 fricked up and I lost my save. I was thinking about replaying again though.
There’s no conflict. Just interesting musings.
I just don't get how you can simultaneously be a militant born-again christian and an avid Cinemaphilener, can any of you guys who got evangelized by this site defend your continued usage of it if you're christlike?
What? I am Christian and I use this website from time to time. What is the problem? Probably many people of different religions go on this website too. Dumb jak poster.
The divine comedy is actually boring as frick and only serves as Dante's fanfiction to impose himself as one of the greatest writers of the time while also shitting on other writers and historical figures he didn't like. It was popular at the time for social commentary and it's interesting depictions of hell, but now hundreds if not thousands of other stories have used his aesthetic for hell in much more interesting ways.
There's an animated movie based on the videogame
It would take more dedication and better passion work than LOTR. Not filmable for today's standards since it also cannot be inserted with topical propaganda and appropriation.
need more feverish christian mythology, eco's name of the rose tingled my taste buds a bit
Do Euros not realize how ludicrously dependent they are on the United States?
>finite sins deserve infinite punishment
Same stuff happens in eastern religions too, you get sent to hell for trillions of years