Well they're pussies if they cry about voodoo being portrayed in media. I don't care what they are or what they look like. You're a pussy too if you care. homosexual.
How often do you see Christianity being mocked in kid's cartoons? Or religion in general? Voodoo is still a religion practiced by many and has been grossly misrepresented for its entire history.
>all cartoons are for kids
Sleek goal post moving, friend. Christianity is made fun of all the time, and I don't care because all gay mysticism should be made fun of.
Just cuz you were watching it as a kid doesn't make it a kid's show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
PG 15 is kiddie shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're the only one ITT to even specify "kids cartoon"
Yes children's cartoons stray away from mocking any religion that's common sense moron. Outside of that, in comics and adult cartoons, Christianity and Catholicism are punching bags. Rightfully so too, I just don't think Islam and Voodoo should be immune from that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yes children's cartoons stray away from mocking any religion that's common sense moron.
I'm glad we've established that making fun of people's religions in inaccurate and offensive ways is common sense.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay I'm glad you agree when the gloves are off and the content is being made for adults, it should be fine to include Islam and Voodoo even as punching bags.
I'm so glad you're not a hypocritical dumbass, anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
P sure Drawn Together encompassed that philosophy perfectly, as it made fun of everything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Christianity and Catholicism are punching bags
Which is why any cartoon that runs long enough gets a Christmas special.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine thinking modern Christmas has anything to do with religion. Even in those Christmas specials they don't mention or show anything religious outside of traditional pagan Christmas iconography.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I regret to inform you that the Christmas tree isn't actually pagan in origin, even though pagan tree worship is a thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doesn't matter. Christmas isn't celebrated as a Christian holiday anymore. That's why they make specials about it.
All cartoons are for kids anyway
Yeah like Santa Inc and Family Guy
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Christmas isn't celebrated as a Christian holiday anymore. That's why they make specials about it.
Wherein the focus is generally upon centuries old Christian cultural practices of gathering around a decorated tree, or a personification of a Christian saint plays a central role, and the exchange of gifts occurs which Christians have been doing for over a millennia and a half in recognition of the 3 magi's gifts to Jesus on his birth, which the holiday celebrates.
BUT SURE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS.
Frick off. It's commercialized to frick and back and there's some pagan syncretism, but the core traditions either were created by Christians, are in reverence to Christian figures, or were being done by Christians for practically as long as they've been a thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're literally just describing the ideal Christmas for a Christians. That's now that Christmas is in reality. To the vast majority of Americans, Christmas is just a "family holiday" with consumer shopping forced in. That's it. Yes Christians love Christmas, but most people who celebrate it don't care about Christianity. Even the ones that call themselves Christian usually don't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It also really depends on where you are. There are places in the world where it's got more of a religious tone, but in most places in the West, it's pretty secular.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah everyone knows making a show about Christmas means you support it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yeah everyone knows making a show about Christmas means you support it.
I said runs long enough and special. That shitshow's neither.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fricking pearl-clutching over this was astounding.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's just annoying that Christianity is a designated punching bag because everyone's afraid to touch other religions. It's why I'll always appreciate Seth McFarlane, he let every religion have it and wasn't afraid to give it back to the israelites.
Also Seth Rogan is just being an annoying snobby israelite at this point always crying about Christians and Christmas, he's genuinely obsessed and it's weird.
2 years ago
Anonymous
People make fun of Christianity because nearly 2/3 of the population is Christian. We make fun of what we know. There's a lot of israelite jokes in media BECAUSE of it being written by israelites. It's the same reason why blacks and Hispanics will make self-racist jokes amongst themselves.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>2/3 of the population is Christian
I can't believe people still think this. Most Americans aren't even religious anymore. Even of the Christians remaining, most are CINO.
Also this argument doesn't work anymore. We live in a global society now thanks to the internet. I don't need to live with Muslims and Voodoos to understand and make fun of them.
Christianity is also a shitty religion to practice, and historically shitty to interact with as a non-Christian. Frick Christianity, it's a religion of obnoxious c**ts who feel entitled to be obnoxious c**t because they're Christian.
I'm not even a Christian. Islam is just as bad if not worse, and unlike Christianity it's actually growing instead of shrinking. They should all be made fun of.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The vast majority of Christians are found in Southern/Eastern Europe, South/Central America and Africa.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nuh uh. Pastor told me that the ONLY Christians left were the ones where in Texas.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Christians aren't Christian enough for my tastes, so they must not exist
You a Presbyterian or something?
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you don't practice the religion you label yourself as, you're not actually that religion. Americans like to call themselves Christians because that's what their parents called themselves, but church attendance tells another story.
Islam is growing in population and unlike American Christians they actually are devout and numerous.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Church attendance is not a criteria of being a good Christian.
Islam's problem is that it demands more from their followers while Christianity is in general more relaxed about it. Helps how Christians can eat pork too without feeling deep spiritual shame.
2 years ago
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>but church attendance tells another story.
moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Islam only has those numbers due to forced pressure to attend. You miss church and you won't be beheaded for it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Christianity is also a shitty religion to practice, and historically shitty to interact with as a non-Christian. Frick Christianity, it's a religion of obnoxious c**ts who feel entitled to be obnoxious c**t because they're Christian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Now do Islam.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Newflash, religions in general are historically not very receptive to non-believers that refuse to convert.
>has to specify "kids cartoon" because it's undeniable that Christianity is mocked everywhere else in the media nonstop
Not even a Christian bro just admit Christianity is used as the defacto "religious punching bag" while every other religion is untouched.
It's also popular since only Christian-majority countries/historically Christian-majority countries condone religious parody since making fun of Muslims is an easy way to get killed in most Muslim and non-Muslim places.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If making fun of a religion is "dangerous" because one of those religious zealots will fricking murder you then that's more of a reason to do so.
Making fun of Christianity is safe, boring, and easy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm glad they had the balls to double down on it too even if they got attacked. Just a dead Muhammed with the caption "All is Forgiven".
>became pussies
People always had feelings it's just that before social media didn't know much about what people were saying beyond what controlled bits of controversy the media let you know. People talking about what was racist in media weren't given much of a platform, but when social media became more prominent ignoring it became harder.
It's not something I've noticed, but if I had to guess as to why, I think it's because it has African origins and using it in stories nowadays would be seen as cultural appropriation or some gay shit
Black folk will get offended that you're stealing their culture, nevermind that it's a conglomeration of beliefs and syncronicities with Christianity that they stole from Africans and Europeans.
>How come voodoo isn't as prominent in cartoons as it used to be?
It was featured in several big movies in the 1980s and it has faded from the public consciousness since. Now it only appears in fringe genre stuff.
Worth noting that the zombie genre is almost completely seperate from the voodoo genre. Hell, voodoo stories don't usually have zombies in them anymore.
But if you count zombies as voodoo (the modern concept of zombie originated with the voodoo Zambi and crossbred with european monsters like litches and ghouls) than PARTS of voodoo are everywhere.
But mostly it's the racial connotastions. I haven't seen a non-niche use of the religion that even CALLS it voodoo -- they call it Vondun (its proper name.)
Empress from DC comics is a heroic Vondun practitioner. (Who does very little classical voodoo, just the occasional bit of spooky mind trick stuff.)
Classical Voodoo is burn some chicken bones and think bad thoughts and carve soap into the shape of a loved one and keep it somewhere safe, dry and warm when they're off on a journey.
Goth Girl is actually kind of harking back to the original use of "voodoo dolls" in this comic, come to think of it.
I wonder what direction he'll take the goth from here on out and how much longer he'll stick to this current concept. Still hoping we something with the thigh thighed American exchange student.
as a matter of fact, yes
I once met a dog named Blackie
he was a good dog
Same he was a black lab mix a pitbull
Blackir was my first dog, I lov him. He actually tore the pants of a man who tried to rob us. I have pictures of my as a baby riding him like a horse. He died of cancer and we had to put him down.
It was never prominent in anything.
It was just cliché rituals with some dark magic stuff. You could replace it with any form of witchcraft bullshit and it would be the same.
That is what happened.
>You could replace it with any form of witchcraft bullshit and it would be the same.
Watching Constantine T.V show also did that comparison. That Papa Midnight and Constantine were using the same magic but had different ways of accessing it.
I think another great metaphor (from star versus the forces of evil) is magic is a big bowl of soup, wands, voodoo, any spells basically act like spoons dipping into.the bowl
At least it's a thread instigated by the release of a new webcomic page, most threads nowadays don't even follow that standard and just a thread of reposts for the sake of it.
To be fair what we understand is voodoo is a gross misunderstanding of vodou/vodoun it when we actually mean hoodoo which is typically a magical system of where a bokor, a middleman who asks the loa spirits for boons or curses to gift or inflict upon people. It be like asking a israelite if he believes in kabbalah or a christian if he were an exorcist. Your average fricker who's into vodun shit stays the frick away from hoodoo since that shit isn't something you play with loosely.
Is it not?
I mean that'd require a long list of what did include it and total for each decade to show any decline or incline of that.
It's considered racist now.
>It's considered racist now.
It was considered racist in the first place, dude. Racists just didn't give a shit about the practitioners.
>now
Always was.
Allow me to correct myself.
Humans (well, mainly just westerners) became pussies and our tolerance for petty racism is gone now. Happy?
Voodoo practicioners are humans too.
Well they're pussies if they cry about voodoo being portrayed in media. I don't care what they are or what they look like. You're a pussy too if you care. homosexual.
I'm just reminded of this when someone mentions voodoo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjWHY8WZHZE
>You're a pussy too if you care. homosexual.
You sound b***hmade anon, but keep trying to overplay this tough card.
eh humanoid
How often do you see Christianity being mocked in kid's cartoons? Or religion in general? Voodoo is still a religion practiced by many and has been grossly misrepresented for its entire history.
The crusades happened, we won. The champions of life don't get to have to deal with the shit losers do lol.
Yeah, they won so hard Muslims controlled the holy land for the next 700 years
>all cartoons are for kids
Sleek goal post moving, friend. Christianity is made fun of all the time, and I don't care because all gay mysticism should be made fun of.
Ah yes, my favorite kids cartoon, Family Guy.
I was watching this shit since I was 9, gay boy.
Just cuz you were watching it as a kid doesn't make it a kid's show.
PG 15 is kiddie shit.
You're the only one ITT to even specify "kids cartoon"
Yes children's cartoons stray away from mocking any religion that's common sense moron. Outside of that, in comics and adult cartoons, Christianity and Catholicism are punching bags. Rightfully so too, I just don't think Islam and Voodoo should be immune from that.
>Yes children's cartoons stray away from mocking any religion that's common sense moron.
I'm glad we've established that making fun of people's religions in inaccurate and offensive ways is common sense.
Okay I'm glad you agree when the gloves are off and the content is being made for adults, it should be fine to include Islam and Voodoo even as punching bags.
I'm so glad you're not a hypocritical dumbass, anon.
P sure Drawn Together encompassed that philosophy perfectly, as it made fun of everything.
>Christianity and Catholicism are punching bags
Which is why any cartoon that runs long enough gets a Christmas special.
Imagine thinking modern Christmas has anything to do with religion. Even in those Christmas specials they don't mention or show anything religious outside of traditional pagan Christmas iconography.
I regret to inform you that the Christmas tree isn't actually pagan in origin, even though pagan tree worship is a thing.
Doesn't matter. Christmas isn't celebrated as a Christian holiday anymore. That's why they make specials about it.
Yeah like Santa Inc and Family Guy
>Christmas isn't celebrated as a Christian holiday anymore. That's why they make specials about it.
Wherein the focus is generally upon centuries old Christian cultural practices of gathering around a decorated tree, or a personification of a Christian saint plays a central role, and the exchange of gifts occurs which Christians have been doing for over a millennia and a half in recognition of the 3 magi's gifts to Jesus on his birth, which the holiday celebrates.
BUT SURE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS.
Frick off. It's commercialized to frick and back and there's some pagan syncretism, but the core traditions either were created by Christians, are in reverence to Christian figures, or were being done by Christians for practically as long as they've been a thing.
You're literally just describing the ideal Christmas for a Christians. That's now that Christmas is in reality. To the vast majority of Americans, Christmas is just a "family holiday" with consumer shopping forced in. That's it. Yes Christians love Christmas, but most people who celebrate it don't care about Christianity. Even the ones that call themselves Christian usually don't.
It also really depends on where you are. There are places in the world where it's got more of a religious tone, but in most places in the West, it's pretty secular.
Yeah everyone knows making a show about Christmas means you support it.
>Yeah everyone knows making a show about Christmas means you support it.
I said runs long enough and special. That shitshow's neither.
The fricking pearl-clutching over this was astounding.
It's just annoying that Christianity is a designated punching bag because everyone's afraid to touch other religions. It's why I'll always appreciate Seth McFarlane, he let every religion have it and wasn't afraid to give it back to the israelites.
Also Seth Rogan is just being an annoying snobby israelite at this point always crying about Christians and Christmas, he's genuinely obsessed and it's weird.
People make fun of Christianity because nearly 2/3 of the population is Christian. We make fun of what we know. There's a lot of israelite jokes in media BECAUSE of it being written by israelites. It's the same reason why blacks and Hispanics will make self-racist jokes amongst themselves.
>2/3 of the population is Christian
I can't believe people still think this. Most Americans aren't even religious anymore. Even of the Christians remaining, most are CINO.
Also this argument doesn't work anymore. We live in a global society now thanks to the internet. I don't need to live with Muslims and Voodoos to understand and make fun of them.
I'm not even a Christian. Islam is just as bad if not worse, and unlike Christianity it's actually growing instead of shrinking. They should all be made fun of.
The vast majority of Christians are found in Southern/Eastern Europe, South/Central America and Africa.
Nuh uh. Pastor told me that the ONLY Christians left were the ones where in Texas.
>Christians aren't Christian enough for my tastes, so they must not exist
You a Presbyterian or something?
If you don't practice the religion you label yourself as, you're not actually that religion. Americans like to call themselves Christians because that's what their parents called themselves, but church attendance tells another story.
Islam is growing in population and unlike American Christians they actually are devout and numerous.
Church attendance is not a criteria of being a good Christian.
Islam's problem is that it demands more from their followers while Christianity is in general more relaxed about it. Helps how Christians can eat pork too without feeling deep spiritual shame.
>but church attendance tells another story.
moron.
Islam only has those numbers due to forced pressure to attend. You miss church and you won't be beheaded for it.
Christianity is also a shitty religion to practice, and historically shitty to interact with as a non-Christian. Frick Christianity, it's a religion of obnoxious c**ts who feel entitled to be obnoxious c**t because they're Christian.
Now do Islam.
Newflash, religions in general are historically not very receptive to non-believers that refuse to convert.
All cartoons are for kids anyway
>has to specify "kids cartoon" because it's undeniable that Christianity is mocked everywhere else in the media nonstop
Not even a Christian bro just admit Christianity is used as the defacto "religious punching bag" while every other religion is untouched.
It's also popular since only Christian-majority countries/historically Christian-majority countries condone religious parody since making fun of Muslims is an easy way to get killed in most Muslim and non-Muslim places.
If making fun of a religion is "dangerous" because one of those religious zealots will fricking murder you then that's more of a reason to do so.
Making fun of Christianity is safe, boring, and easy.
I'm glad they had the balls to double down on it too even if they got attacked. Just a dead Muhammed with the caption "All is Forgiven".
>became pussies
People always had feelings it's just that before social media didn't know much about what people were saying beyond what controlled bits of controversy the media let you know. People talking about what was racist in media weren't given much of a platform, but when social media became more prominent ignoring it became harder.
It's not something I've noticed, but if I had to guess as to why, I think it's because it has African origins and using it in stories nowadays would be seen as cultural appropriation or some gay shit
Black folk will get offended that you're stealing their culture, nevermind that it's a conglomeration of beliefs and syncronicities with Christianity that they stole from Africans and Europeans.
>Black folk stole from Africans
Damn this is meta
racial/cultural connotations I guess? Maybe it just fell out of favour with time, you know like gothic culture.
>you know like gothic culture
Take that back you big motherfrick bastard.
>How come voodoo isn't as prominent in cartoons as it used to be?
It was featured in several big movies in the 1980s and it has faded from the public consciousness since. Now it only appears in fringe genre stuff.
Worth noting that the zombie genre is almost completely seperate from the voodoo genre. Hell, voodoo stories don't usually have zombies in them anymore.
But if you count zombies as voodoo (the modern concept of zombie originated with the voodoo Zambi and crossbred with european monsters like litches and ghouls) than PARTS of voodoo are everywhere.
But mostly it's the racial connotastions. I haven't seen a non-niche use of the religion that even CALLS it voodoo -- they call it Vondun (its proper name.)
Empress from DC comics is a heroic Vondun practitioner. (Who does very little classical voodoo, just the occasional bit of spooky mind trick stuff.)
I had no idea zombies and voodoo were related even, in my mind zombies are more a science fiction thing than magic most times tbh
nowadays it seems zombies only ever originate from sci-fi/virus. i wanna see more voodoo zombies
I want more necromancers.
Modern viral/parasite zombies are fricking scary.
>I want more necromancers.
Same
Classical Voodoo is burn some chicken bones and think bad thoughts and carve soap into the shape of a loved one and keep it somewhere safe, dry and warm when they're off on a journey.
Goth Girl is actually kind of harking back to the original use of "voodoo dolls" in this comic, come to think of it.
racism
who's the artist
HellonearthIII
I wonder what direction he'll take the goth from here on out and how much longer he'll stick to this current concept. Still hoping we something with the thigh thighed American exchange student.
I swear this looks like it could be a new set of wizards for Hogwarts.
I'm guessing from left to right they'd be Gryffindor, Slytherin, and Ravenclaw?
>Slytherin medium
Clearly a Hufflechad.
>Negrita
Do Argies really?
as a matter of fact, yes
I once met a dog named Blackie
he was a good dog
Same he was a black lab mix a pitbull
Blackir was my first dog, I lov him. He actually tore the pants of a man who tried to rob us. I have pictures of my as a baby riding him like a horse. He died of cancer and we had to put him down.
>thigh thighed
>Guess who likes you?
They just have the characters call it magic
I knew this joke reminded me of something.
>tfw no one read shadowman
It was never prominent in anything.
It was just cliché rituals with some dark magic stuff. You could replace it with any form of witchcraft bullshit and it would be the same.
That is what happened.
>You could replace it with any form of witchcraft bullshit and it would be the same.
Watching Constantine T.V show also did that comparison. That Papa Midnight and Constantine were using the same magic but had different ways of accessing it.
I think another great metaphor (from star versus the forces of evil) is magic is a big bowl of soup, wands, voodoo, any spells basically act like spoons dipping into.the bowl
>Type O Negative poster
My dick, bro. It's diamond.
Because most people born after 1980 aren't scared shitless by the concept of other religions having the same amount of power as theirs.
Who is the comic creator/where can I find the rest?
read the thread
Why are we having daily threads of this guy? Give it a fricking rest already
Because he makes art daily
And? I wasn't aware Cinemaphile was the fricking HellOnEarth fanclub.
It's artist, he makes comics using characters
That's usually how it goes
At least it's a thread instigated by the release of a new webcomic page, most threads nowadays don't even follow that standard and just a thread of reposts for the sake of it.
Alastor in Hazbin Hotel uses voodoo magic.
where can I read this comic?
Read the thread
Because cartoons found new avenues of rape
As an anon in the last thread said, these threads lead to the weirdest discussions being had that are vaguely related to the comic
To be fair what we understand is voodoo is a gross misunderstanding of vodou/vodoun it when we actually mean hoodoo which is typically a magical system of where a bokor, a middleman who asks the loa spirits for boons or curses to gift or inflict upon people. It be like asking a israelite if he believes in kabbalah or a christian if he were an exorcist. Your average fricker who's into vodun shit stays the frick away from hoodoo since that shit isn't something you play with loosely.