How come we have never seen, nor heard of, a single Supervillain in the Incredibles? You're telling me NONE of the Supers went rogue?
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How come we have never seen, nor heard of, a single Supervillain in the Incredibles?
You mean besides the two that appeared on screen and the three more that were mentioned on screen?
OP doesn't care he posted characters he wants to sex bang and an irrelevant timewasting question, probably never watched the movie
actually i want to watch them fart and poop themselves
>two that appeared on screen
Literally who are you talking about. Underminer is not a Supervillain, he doesn't have any superpowers
>Underminer is not a Supervillain, he doesn't have any superpowers
>Underminer is not a Supervillain, he doesn't have any superpowers
Do you consider Doc Ock a supervillain?
If they don't actually have superpowers they are just villains, end of story. Normal villains are perfectly capable of being a more powerful threat than a supervillain sometimes
It's from this, 19:28
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Yeah she comes across as kind of a b***h
The villains weren't so much Rogue Supers as they were "evil people with gimmicks." The closest they gave us was The Underminer, but, even then, he's just a small dude with mole- and mining-themed villainy. The sequel had a half dozen brainwashed Supers, but none of them were inherently evil.
Everyone else? Bomb Voyage, Syndrome, Evelyn, just your standard human (though there are those that argued Syndrome's creations were the result of a Super-level intellect).
There is that one superhero chick with psychic powers who can hypnotize people, and in her audio file she laughs about how she would steal women's boyfriends away. She's not classified as a villain but they made it sound like she rapes people and also from the way she talks she just felt very morally grey in general.
Where was that from? Syndromes database?
I think it's on the bonus disk of the Incredibles DVD release.
Man is miss bonus shit
"rogues" and "rogues list"
is a stupid fricking concept
but, you do know where the term "Rogue'a Gallery" came from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogues%27_gallery
Syndrome invented functional anti-gravity starting with 60's technology
He absolutely has super intelligence
Did we need superpowered villains, though?
pic related, case in point
Sometimes it's fun to have a powered villain that's gone evil just because having their powers give them a superiority complex.
They don't need to be a major antagonist in the movie, but it'd be nice to see Bob actually fighting someone that can take his attacks and give it back to him on the same level. He has to pull his punches with the regular villains because disgruntled humans are really damn fragile. Dash could probably do some serious damage if he threw a full-speed punch or kick into someone (though without his dad's durability, he could really hurt himself, too).
THE
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HYDRATION
GUN
>Bomb Voyage,
Furry bros...
He wasn't even a good mime. He talked. ...wait actually a Supervillain with mime powers sounds cool as frick, why didn't they do that
>None of the supervillains have actual super powers
How does this fit into the Randian themes of The Incredibles
Helen's ass
That's literally the only reason to watch Incredibles 2.
When you're a boy you lust after the mother, when youre a MAN you lust after the daughter
I lust for both. I want some oyakodon.
Growing up is realizing you deserve both.
Just wait a few years. Violet will be the best of both worlds with her mother's genes
They used this scene to promote the movie too https://youtu.be/PufZ1hUNLvg?si=vZ-tA3QmYaKWoINS
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It is one of the best and most obvious suprising butt or underwear scenes in western animation besides gwen in total drama, cheshire In young justice, bloom and stormy in winx club, brittney in star vs evil, sissi in code lyoko, kim possible and tinkerbell. Those and elastigirl are best I've seen
Is that a slight breast jiggle I see?
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Maybe there was, but their powers were so advanced and dangerous that it was safer to cover up their existence. Like what if the only "supervillain" was a time-travelling hero gone rogue?
Because Super powers are an allegory for natural talent / proper breeding. Supers can't be evil in the same way that the elite of society can't be evil.
That's some weird "argument from wealth" fallacy
I hate that basically 99% of Violet porn is total shit
Does Gnsisir fall under the 1%
>same bodytype for every girl
>male occupies 90% of the picture
yes
>same bodytype for every girl
That is how healthy little girls look like. It is ten time more realistic than giving the same body type to every adult.
This is valid criticism but is also deliberate to show the difference between them.
I like one where she gets slammed by frozone. That was hot.
>slammed by frozone. That was hot.
>frozone
>hot
Apparently Frozone and this
chick with fire powers used to have a romantic relationship
>no "steamy" romance joke
WHERE THE FRICK IS CARLOS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY NEED HIM?
Most of them are probably dead. I don't recall Bob, Helen or Frozone mentioning a no-kill rule and I like to think that just as many supervillains died to cape-related mishaps as superheroes.
Violet is not for lewd anyway, so that's fine.
You sick fricks.
I think there aren't any supervillains because if there were any, they would immediately take over the entire country after superheros got made illegal. If superheros are hiding in secret (which is necessary for the movie's plot to work) then there CAN'T be supervillains because then it doesn't make any fricking sense that the heros are in hiding
We already have this problem on a smaller scale. Gee, sure is CONVENIENT that the Underminer, Bomb Voyage etc. all seemed to immediately stop their criminal activity when the Supers all went away
The government creates villains to keep the Supers relevant and maintain social order
actually the canon reason villains mostly disappeared after the Supers were forced to retire is that the US government simply took off the kid gloves in handling them, with any villains that didn't get killed either being jailed, retired, or they left the country(since apparently only the US actually banned Supers)
>Okay outline the plot for Incredibles 3. What powers does the Supervillain have and what do they want
my rough thoughts for a third movie;
>picturing it being set a year or two after the second movie, where the first film had Bob as the focus character and the second had Helen as the focus character, this time the focus would be jointly on Dash and Violet with them both dealing with the issues of Puberty as Supers(with Dash being an early bloomer and Violet a late bloomer) as well as being the rising stars of a new generation of Supers that is emerging and finding it's own way due to few of the previous generation still being alive, Violet joining up with an all girl team of teen Supers, while Dash gets drawn towards a new movement espousing Supers Supremacy led by the son of Gamma Jack and this leading to conflict between both the two siblings and the respective halves of the Supers community they've aligned with(Violet with the Establishment, Dash with the Revolutionaries) and them having to resolve their issues before it falls into outright war
Blazestone is the only example I could find of a Super in The Incredibles universe going rogue.
>Having grown tired of the bureaucracy of the NSA, Blazestone gathered a group of petty criminals she had captured during her career as a Super, and attempted to escape Municiberg with a horde of stolen loot. However, both she and her goons were ultimately defeated by Elastigirl, with the support of Downburst, Mr. Incredible, Frozone and even her old partner, Universal Man. The disgraced heroine was last seen being driven away in an Agency crime van.
>last seen being vanned
>status: deceased
You know, I'm half and half on believing that status is a cover up (or just made up guess by whoever wrote the wiki), or that the feds drove her to a bunker and simply put a bullet in her the moment they caught her.
wtf
Comics had a few.
The new ones have added a girl the same age as Violet with super powers and a villain dad
She cute
>yuri potential
I'm interested
According to the wiki she’s a very shy gal with the ability to manipulate sound and create sonic blasts though they are weak enough that headphones/earplugs can counteract them
>Light and sound
>Violets and roses
They weren't even trying to be subtle.
Subtle about what? They’re friends
I had no idea Incredibles had a comic
Boom's run was all about building up a full Legion of Doom's worth of them and included an objectively superior hypnosis themed villainess among them.
And yet the ultimate villain leading them was yet another powerless and super-rich businessman.
Xerek had powers, they were just saving the specifics for the cancelled finale. Idea was that he was functionally immortal from various life-extension schemes and had luck-based powers that made him impossible to actually defeat. His end goal was basically a global murder suicide since he had grown bored of living forever and always winning. The family is only able to beat him by turning some new "overcharging your ability to the point where it starts tearing you apart" variant of that superpower virus is able to override his luck and allows the family to kill him. Xerek still wins in death though because the whole traumatic messy experience leads to a Bob and Helen divorce with plans for a timeskip of the family eventually starting to come back together.
If they ever do an Incredibles 3, what are some new ways to expand their powers that feel organic and make sense?
>Dash learns that he can run in circles and make tornadoes
>Violet learns how to turn objects other than herself invisible, remaining even when she stops touching them
>Bob uses his strength more intelligently for example to crush dense metals/whatever into crude brass knuckles
>Helen can borderline polymorph due to how much she stretches and how she uses herself
>Dash can use the friction of rubbing/running in one place to superheat something
>Violet can reverse her force field to crush people into an infinitely small singularity
Dash should be able to run, generate static electricity and shoot lightning. Still annoyed he doesn't have lightning powers
If he can't shoot lightning on the fly but has to run, build up static and THEN shoot then that's an interesting dynamic
Would super speed work for static build up? I'm not well versed in the physics of it but I'm pretty sure at the speed Dash would be moving would incur an excessive amount of friction and thus heat which would inhibit storing a charge or transmitting one.
Maybe if he had some special gear that holds a charge and thermally insulates the battery from him. Otherwise I think Dash would have more luck using friction to add fire powers to his move set.
>If they ever do an Incredibles 3, what are some new ways to expand their powers
>expand
I'd like to see Violet develop her powers, namely developing her mom's jiggle physics
>gewd-boi has drawn Violet
Oh my!
Violet's basically his signature character at this point.
Damn, this is some fine Violet.
Big boobs on Violet defeats her entire appeal
Violet's appeal is being an awkward neurotic with eyebags, which this artist has maintained even with the huge boobs.
>Violet's appeal is being an awkward neurotic with eyebags, which this artist has maintained even with the huge boobs
This. It's not rocket science.
Not every big boob artist is capable of making off-model art while keeping the character in character.
It’s a part of her character arc, as she grows into college age
Violet being skinny and flat is just one aspect of her appeal. Her being shy and introverted with brief moments of teen girl rage as she matures and navigates her double life is another aspect. In truth, the biggest aspect is the hair. It's always been the hair.
Violet will be aged up to college in the third movie though.
We can only hope. The fact that the second movie didn't feature a timeskip continues to bother me.
It would be so easy to have Gamma Jack be the villain in a third movie. Just reveal that he's not actually dead and had been lurking in the shadows. I can imagine him trying to win Bob over by pointing out how he had spent the past fifteen years or so hiding his "true potential" from the world, basically throwing Bob's mindset in the first movie back in his face.
Exactly, I want her tall, skinny, clumsy and not very physically strong, perhaps slightly weaker than the average woman.
She has to relay on her stealth and shield powers, her missions are done slowly and carefully, like the her level in the GameCube game.
A wasp-waisted but curvy Violet could easily be a huge clutz that finds herself getting into trouble on stealth missions every now and then.
>Her new super suit comes with 7 inch heels she insists on wearing because they turn her on but she can't really run in them, just fast long strides.
God they better make her skinny in the new movie.
>Exactly, I want her tall, skinny, clumsy and not very physically strong, perhaps slightly weaker than the average woman.
I don't want her to be clumsy forever. Violet's at her best when she shows off how smart and/or capable she can be. I think she could be the most powerful member of the family once she learns how to control her powers, since the only limit to her powers seems to be how hard she's willing to concentrate.
>She has to relay on her stealth and shield powers, her missions are done slowly and carefully, like the her level in the GameCube game.
Yes, I remember that. And now I want a stealth action game where you play as Violet.
This. I can see her growing up and putting on some meat but making her Helen 2.0 feels completely unnatural.
Violet is for violate
No
>Helen and Violet
I remember seeing a fetish pic of Violet squishing her mom into a ball like that.
It was hot.
I can see Helen doing more mr fantastic type stuff with her powers, don’t think she'd become as powerful as plastic man though
can she turn into a bicycle?
she already did a speedboat, but no moving parts
Sooo.... pic rel?
>Maybe if he had some special gear that holds a charge and thermally insulates the battery from him.
Light Speed Dash
I theoretically like expanding powers in stories, but it has always lead to power creep and insanely godlike powers. See superhero comics like superman or a lot of anime/manga.
It's better to have a clear limit in the beginning and have the character think of how to get around those limits, not breaking them
I think Violet was always the most prone to power creep. It would be interesting if she grew beyond what she could handle and become a danger to everyone around her.
I don't know where this is from but I want it in a movie.
>he doesn't know Smitty
you are either very blessed... or very cursed
nice and thicc
I know that isn't actually a black Helen, but how would the movie change if Helen was Lucius' sister in addition to Bob's wife?
They should have time travel/muliverse shenanigans where Syndrome never becomes a villain and Gamma Jack leads the supers in a global takeover.
Why do they wear high heels?
because FASHION, and apparently they kill less women than capes
And I'm glad for that Incredibles was created at a time where feminine fashion was still considered acceptable
Woman like the restriction and love the feeling that any man can catch them and pull them around.
High heels say "catch me and frick me, I can't run away or fight back~"
Why would you waste time being a super villain when you can just be a super hero and get mad b***hes and money for beating up normal people?
Okay outline the plot for Incredibles 3. What powers does the Supervillain have and what do they want
The villain is Gamma Jack who is revealed to be the brother of Meta Man, and has the extra secret ability to resurrect himself in a reference to the death of Superman arc. Meta Man is also revived and the plot is divided between trying to acclimate the newly resurrected golden age Meta Man to the more cynical modern world and trying to stop Jack from assembling his army of supers in a takeover of the world
Along the way they are also forced to go to Screenslaver and Underminer for help
Syndrome did good with Gamma Jack.
As far as I'm aware, the NSA is responsible for monitoring and assessing Supers and their potential threats. They're funded by the US government, which comes with several implications ranging from harmless to the sinister. By the events of the first Incredibles, the NSA has been reduced to a glorified witness protection program, dulling their effectiveness to the point of discontinuation in Incredibles 2.
If I wrote Incredibles 3, I'd try to get back to the "suspenseful" style of storytelling in the first film. It's Hitchwiener meets The Truman Show- we introduce a SPECTRE/Justice League-like superhero organization that starts recruiting Supers for commission-based superhero work.
Everything changes when it's revealed that this organization is led by Super radicalist Gamma Jack, formed entirely of ex-NSA members hell-bent on establishing genocidal superiority by targeting their opposition- political lobbyists, foreign countries, etc. When Mr. Incredible discovers this, he enters an extreme state of paranoia as he grapples with dismantling this organization without endangering his family.
How can the Incredibles fight the intangible? And how tempted are the kids to grow up and join this Super alliance?
reminder that all the supervillains just retired after they robbed one bank
Because there's only been the 2 movies, and they simply weren't about that.
No super villians...what the frick are you-nevermind. Just post Helen Parr you coomers
>BEHOOOOLD, THE UNDERMINOR!
>I CRAVE dicky AND e-girl CP!!!!!
Uhhhhhhh, what did Brad Bird mean by this bros?
pedos are villians
I would love a third movie where the now adult child of two former superheroes attacks the world and blames the world not caring about them leading to their deaths (by Syndrome).
Would be great conflict because Bob and Helen knew their parents. And that the villain is around Violet’s age, and that Dash/Violet could have easily ended up as them if Bob and Helen were killed by Syndrome.
Crisis beat needs to animate part 1 and 2 of the couch casting
Wait someone is animating something like that?
Crisisbeat animated part 2, part 1 needs to be animated since he did only a CG
Good to know
is this the beginning of a epic new meme?
Unfortunately not new, i keep seeing variants of "the joke is porn" posted every single time something is posted that has a woman or trap in it even if it is unrelated to anything pornographic.
Helen is so goddamn lucky. She absolutely just used her stretchy powers when she was giving birth to her 3 kids. Probably took her a grand total of 15 seconds to give birth.
>by the time jack jack was born they didn't even bother going to a hospital. Helen just sat on the couch while Bob squatted on the ground at the ready with a baseball glove
Comics had Edna's cousin be their family doctor that oversaw those deliveries, but he might as well have just been there solely for paperwork purposes with how easy it had to be for Helen.
That's the plot for the third movie.
I hope so.
Gamma Jack
I wish he was kept alive to be a villain.
They could say he faked his death and bring him back for 3
OH NO WAIT DISNEY, DONT WRITE THAT DOWN (AT LEAST GIVE ME CREDIT)
Made this post because you want express fantasizing fricking Helen and a Violet
I wish Bob, Dash and Jack Jack just hunted you down.
Don't care for Helen, but Violet is cute. She is not for lewd, though.
Nice peek-a-boo haircut, not a fan of the piggy nose.
It's a cute nose, perfect for kissing.
Don't worry anon, I got you covered.
I'll lewd Helen and Violet enough for both of us.
Violet is not for lewd!!!
Imagine long legged and twiggy but still curvy violet trying to sneak past you but you hear her heels click on the floor, you grab her by her tiny little waist thats so small your hand almost completely wraps around it, she eeps as you pin her lithe little body up against the wall.
She lets out a moan as you grab her tight little ass and squeeze her hips then pull her against you, her moves her leg up and grinds her pelvis against your thighs, she wants it.
>Violet likes to roleplay as a hero captured by a villain
Seeing her parents in those restraints on Nomanisan did a number on her sexual development.
Those "Easily cancelled out by forcefields" energy shackles had to have spread out a fair amount in the supervillain community if Syndrome made a fortune being an arms dealer. She could easily get her kicks from being caught on purpose and then sneaking out, maybe get some free augmentation from the pervier ones while she's at it.
The question is can she use her force field powers when someone is touching her?
She's got her own complete setup at home, which has made her incredibly good at resisting actual interrogation, if a bit embarrassed when she cums from the "torment".
Dammit, you're exploiting my weakness for small, skinny girls! That's unfair!
Sause man good man?
Anon, not only are you unable to read filenames, you're also the only person on this board who somehow doesn't recognize Shadman's art style.
I had absolutely no idea how much I would miss Shad. Not even as an artist, but as a part of pop culture. You could always count on him for making porn of current events and introducing non-normalgay smut to normalgay masses in a way that didn't make him object and led to them developing tastes.
Anyone think Pixar will try and make the the third movie's animation look like Spider Verse movies, TMNT:MM and Puss in Boots 2?
Bob and Helen give their kids apple slice happy meals with no toys. Horrible parenting.
I think hero idealization is a key part of the universe. With that said: oyakodon.
Smitty does good work but he's such a drama sperg on his twitter, if I didn't know he first posted on Cinemaphile I'd be surprised he started here. Nobody gives a shit about your stance on marvel editorial, just make with the ass.
I don't think there's any user that posts between Cinemaphile and X that isn't a drama gay
I was trying to infer that but aye, come with the medium I guess.
helen should sit on violets face
thicc thighs are the best
Basically every Brad Bird script is about how humanity can only be saved by a small, select group of super-exceptional people who are marginalized by society for BEING special and if the rest of us would just get out of their way they would make the world a better place for us. I just described The Incredible, Tomorrowland, and a bunch of other stuff he wrote/directed.
Every villain we see in the incredibles is a normal person using technology for evil ends, because they are not part of the super special in-group. If they were, they would be part of the solution and not the problem. Having an actual supervillain with powers would undercut Brad Bird's personal ideological themes.
Right, I'm moronic
Man, I love mother-daughter porn
The movie is really about Brad Bird's objectivism. Supers can't go rogue for the same reason superior people should be leave free to do whatever they want. It'll always be for the good, it's only stupid normies interfering with progress
Why do people have such a problem with meritocracy? Objectivism is objectively good.
Didn't the no capes flashback scene show a few? There was also Gamma Jack in the DVD extras who believed supers were a superior race like he's Homelander or something.