No man over the age of 25 should even care about being accused of this. Male virginity is more sacred than it has ever been. Every woman wishes they could take that innocence these days.
This. To go so long without sex demonstrates real self control and discipline.
It's so easy to get with some drunk prostitute or simply pay for it but the guys who last that long are built different.
They don't live by society's standards of what a man should or should not have done by certain points in his life, he follows his own path.
>To go so long without sex demonstrates real self control and discipline.
you don't have self-control if you jerk off wasting your cum and you are not fit
>Male virginity is more sacred than it has ever been. Every woman wishes they could take that innocence these days.
cope, but your first sentence is circumstantially true
>Every woman wishes they could take that innocence these days.
Women dislike men that are chaste. Women also dislike men who are shy/timid about romance and sex
Women really REALLY hate men that are sexually and romantically inexperienced
We met on bumble 2 months go and started dating after the first week.
And i dunno, i decided to be very straight forward about. >drop her at her mom's house >saying goodbye while sitting on my car >she says we should talk about us next time with cheeky smile >i say we should do it right now instead >i ask her if we'll be a couple or i should run away already (we joke like that all the time) >she gives me an even bigger smile and says "not unless we kiss first" >she leans forward for it and i somehow manage to not spill the spaghetti >i go for something just a bit over a peck >we kissed that way 3 times and i felt her tongue touching my lips the last 2 times >she says "i thought we were gonna kiss?" >i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time" >"oh ok, see you next week anon, let's talk more then"
I fricked up didn't i? We're going to the movies this friday but i don't even know what to do. I feel like just telling her straight that she should teach me if she wants to kiss that way, whatever.
I'm 31 yo and last saturday i just had my first kiss. I bet she (24) knew.
I don't think i did too bad but the fricking b***h even tried to use her tongue. Is that normal on a first kiss?
don't worry about it, just let it go where it goes
if it all goes sideways, better luck next time. pretty much nobody gets it right the first few times around, and every lesson is built on a failure.
Women can smell your desperation
Even if you are an apathetic incel who "hates women" they can smell your inexperience with the opposite sex
I'm not some super mega GigaChad who was sex all the time but I'm not ugly and girls have shown interest in me. I have rejected several women because they were too ugly and dumb
Why do all these woman expert posts always have to add the "i have sex btw"
to the end as if the implied expertise in what women are like shouldn't be sufficient?
I meant to today but I told her she's not autistic and then she got mad and said I was invalidating her feelings and then we didn't frick.
Before that it was at least one or two months ago probably. I don't keep track of time that long.
Depends on the situation
If you wanna hit it, be playful, example: >Wouldn't you like to know?
If you don't then tell her that it's better being a virgin than losing it to her, to the majority of women, being a male virgin is pathetic and refusing a woman's control over your virginity means that she's so pathetic that she's not worth the loss of said virginity, a huge blow to their ego
otherwise, you can challenge their status in which you get two scenarios
either she's been with a few partners or none, something that you can mock yourself (even though it's virtuous)
or she can admit to being a bawd wherein you can mock her for that, which is arguably worse for her ego
reminder that the average woman is a lot more emotional and more prone to lose control than the average male
as long as you do not offer an emotional response and by extension power over you, you have this in the bag, the key in all scenarios is indifference
Say "ok" and just continue trekking or polishing your sword of whatever you're doing. The trick is you have to actually not care.
Although you run the risk of her hating you because women don't like men who preemptively genuinely write them off as being inferior
>how could you tell?
the only people that get offended at being called a virgin are the actual virgins. if you're not a virgin then you know that sex/intimacy is fun and enjoyable but it's not that big of a deal, it's just sex.
>sex/intimacy is fun and enjoyable but it's not that big of a deal, it's just sex.
For men. For women, it has massive physical, spiritual, and psychological implications.
They came up with the false logic that you should and you must flirt with women no matter how ugly they are because we live in a society built for the comfort of women.
Whether you desire them or reject them they win and they call whoever they dislike a virgin. That's the false logic giving them this comfort they need so much to keep on consuming and wage their best years away. The persons who made this logic possible don't think of you as a men but as animals.
She can't.
It's a defense mechanism in women who are faced with a man uninterested in her bullshit.
Or
But again it's still a 50/50 shot. Because I've encountered that shit many times and I've been married for frick sake.
It's only because zoomers and free speech tourists phone post and/or can't use even basic image editing suites. It's not because they're any less obsessed with online "social" validation. They're actually much more sensitive to it. Plus, reactions are even less valuable in a post-2020 world where 80% of Cinemaphile is from some shithole country and barely understands English. >look mother I too posted "jaja frick out you guy" with the frog image just like the Americans
she's so annoying, and I'm gonna use a zoomer term here, she's MID. she's fricking mid. like yeah she's not bad on the eyes, maybe a little butch, but then she opens her fricking mouth and my dick goes turtle mode
Your body language is different when you've never put it inside a woman. It's a boundary you've never crossed vs men who have multiple times. Once you do that enough times women leave you alone, or start coming onto you if you're good looking
Horrible advice, women always offer advice on how they think want to be treated, which is never how they actually want to be treated
Most of the time, female advice on getting women is shit like >treat them like individuals, be sensitive, learn girl things
Problem is when you do that you end up being the gay best friend, because generally women tend to not be attracted to other women
fricking this, the one time i asked my sister on how to get girls i ended up getting friendzoned by every single one i approached.
ironically enough knowing women and going out in public with them gets you so much pussy its ridiculous, im a solid 4 but whenever im at a coffee shop or something with the one female friend i have, women are suddenly smiling at me and being super nice and flirty.
>Are there any with decent looking women under 30?
yeah of course >Are there any with decent looking women under 30 with a single digit body count and no tattoos
maybe mormon chicks
Before you ask a girl out go to a gay bar. Some gay will definitely proposition you and boost your self esteem. Then go to the girl and use the same method the gay used to approach you. Works every time.
imagine being a homosexual incel trying to score a bussy and you come to a guy in a GAY bar and he says "sorry bro but I'm straight I'm just here to... ehhh... boost my self-esteem, yes"
I'll do you one better. How do you actually find people who want to interact with you socially? Literally have not known how to do that since I was about 12, and then it was just the luck of having to go to a building with about a thousand other kids every day, and more or less having socialisation forced on me, to the point that it was inevitable I would find one person who likes having me around.
Literally what do you do past a certain point? "Go to da bar", and sit in a corner by yourself, while everyone else went there with their friends, and only wants to talk to their friends?
"Join a le web community", and be the eternal outsider, because the oldgays are already friends with each other?
It's the same problem everywhere.
Same rules as ever, just no mushy middle. Everything is polarized, not just politics. Be ruthless in finding what you're good at and then "be undeniable". People will engage with you and want to be around you. You just have to be realistic and not expect 24/7 acceptance and attention because no gives that anymore except family. But if you actually work on yourself and build self-confidence in the process of finding what you're good at, you won't be needy either.
Basically, avoid "hanging out" sort of social engagement because that's inherently low value and the people who rise in those situation are thots and sociopaths. Aim for expertise, any kind, and learn how to make an entrance (show up late) and leave early. Never give up on spending time alone and make your peace with FOMO. You are trying to be not 100% totally alone, not fill up all your social needs.
Telling people to achieve professional success pretty much just leads back around to the same thing.
"Just go to da business meeting!". Where? Which one?
Why does everyone else know about all of this stuff?
Anon, i'm telling you to be good at something -anything- and engage with it socially. I'm not just talking about "professional success" but that can be the same thing.
>and engage with it socially.
How do you do that though? I could join some interest based Discord, but I would still just be the person on the outside who everyone ignores.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>How do you do that though?
Social networking isn't socializing in any meaningful health way. It's full of all kinds of para-social weirdness. I've been in "online communities" where I was very active and it's still taken a year or more to be recognized to where people were posting about me, vouching for me, etc. Not saying you should swear off being active online, but you need more than that to be fulfilled.
I almost certainly have undiagnosed ADHD, and I think I've been depressed most of my life.
So what? Knowing that doesn't really get you anywhere. It's like saying to someone with no legs, "you have no legs". Yeah, man. I noticed.
The negativity in your post is the depression talking. The world does not owe you social fulfillment or a solution spelled-out but will guide you if you're paying attention. Being a male means you are disposable and no one gives a shit. So find dragons to slay and keep slaying them until one day one of them kills you. That's manhood. And in the process when you git gud people will start to notice.
9 months ago
Anonymous
None of that means anything to me, and basically amounts to "dude, figure it out, or get lucky. I dunno...". Why even bother saying anything?
I ask for concrete answers for where exactly I'm supposed to go to make friends, and you give me this hot air.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are you Australian? Because you post like an Australian. You all aren't nearly as good at bantz as you think you are.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No.
9 months ago
Anonymous
join an Austism discord and be the least autistic person there (by a slim margin)
9 months ago
Anonymous
How do you find autism discords?
And then what do you even say to people? "Hello, I have autism"?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Drive around town until you see a car with an Autism Speaks bumper sticker. Follow it until it stops at a red light. Then get out of your car and go up, politely knock on the window and say
"Pardon the interruption but I have autism and I was wondering if you know any good autism discords?"
worked for me
>find people who want to interact with you socially?
find places its socially acceptable to mingle with people. if you are part of a church start attending church events, think about joining some kinda club, look for events being held if you local area(heres a tip game shops often host local tournaments and tabletop events) once you are at a setting where its socially acceptable to approach random people attempt to introduce yourself and yes at some of these places its not weird to randomly walk up and introduce yourself. >"Join a le web community", and be the eternal outsider,
Most communities aren't le sekrit club and as long as you are not insufferable they won't care if are missing bits lore or history about their storied autism buddy.
>I will look like a pedophile
If you are in your 30s and stick to old game tournaments or table I guarantee you can find a group of people your age or at the very least late 20s who will not care about a 30 year old. Stop selling yourself short and even if this people don't like who fricking says you ever need to see them again in your life?
>find people who want to interact with you socially?
find places its socially acceptable to mingle with people. if you are part of a church start attending church events, think about joining some kinda club, look for events being held if you local area(heres a tip game shops often host local tournaments and tabletop events) once you are at a setting where its socially acceptable to approach random people attempt to introduce yourself and yes at some of these places its not weird to randomly walk up and introduce yourself. >"Join a le web community", and be the eternal outsider,
Most communities aren't le sekrit club and as long as you are not insufferable they won't care if are missing bits lore or history about their storied autism buddy.
also drink or beer or 2 before hand whatever it takes to give you a slight buzz to take the edge off it will do fricking wonders for not making you a nervous wreck.
9 months ago
Anonymous
doing a bump of coke before social engagements and then one or two maintenance bumps throughout the evening did wonders for my social skills. Really was the key to unlock what was missing and I couldn't imagine going back to being "normal me" around people.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>beer >GABA receptor antagonist
Kinda like benzos
doing a bump of coke before social engagements and then one or two maintenance bumps throughout the evening did wonders for my social skills. Really was the key to unlock what was missing and I couldn't imagine going back to being "normal me" around people.
>coke >dopamine reuptake inhibitor
Like other NDRIs
You both can get prescriptions for both of those things with similar effect minus the drawbacks, though for beer it'd be extreme, for coke I'd definitely suggest something safer
>work on yourself
I would, but even that's harder to do than you think it is.
When you just went wrong at some level of development and don't understand how to interact socially with the rest of society, how do you self-improve from that?
I've tried to get professional help, and it kind of just seems like there is nowhere to go. You get "councillors" who basically exist to comfort grieving widows, or angsty teenagers who got themselves on drugs, but for people who just never "got in" with society, there doesn't really seem to be anything.
You either have autism or OCD, if you're so rigid on your daily routine
Keep going through therapists and look for those that are specialists at what you have, if you can't find one around your area then do it online and if you don't feel that the therapist is helping you, then change therapists, they're human and they're not perfect, like any other job, some are bad some are good, keep trying or nothing will change. Dr K. might be a meme but he's pretty good with autistic gamers, look to him as an example as to what to look for.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know what Dr K is.
9 months ago
Anonymous
HealthyGamerGG, a channel on youtube, he's a poo-in-loo psychiatrist, most of his videos are stuff that has to do with shut-in autistic nerds, right up your alley, he even has a discord with coaches and other autists as a support group if I'm not mistaken
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'll look at it, but I'm not expecting much out of youtube.
Shower. Wear deodorant. Wear decent (not stained/baggy/juvenile) clothes.
Nobody will even think twice. There are always older guys at all of these events, it’s only weird if you’re a weirdo.
I am a weirdo. I have autism. Being a weirdo is hardcoded in my personality.
I have issues with most of those things that you probably couldn't begin to understand. I can't "just wear nice clothes" for one thing, because I have to wear the same clothes every day, and I don't know why.
I also don't wear deodorant, because I don't really know which kind I'm supposed to buy, so I just do nothing and hope no one notices.
9 months ago
Anonymous
try going to Cinemaphile those guy are gays but it should probably give you a start to work with.
tbh you dont have to worry so much
get an haircut,get a shave,get fit,get a white shirt and some fit pants,dont smell bad so take a shower and put some cologne
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, you don't get it. I emotionally cannot bring myself to wear different clothes. It's a break from a particular rule that has been set in stone in my mind. When my clothes wear out, I basically have to buy the same thing again, and it's incredibly stressful, for reasons I don't really understand.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>When my clothes wear out, I basically have to buy the same thing again
since i dont have any pictures i cant judge but in the possibility it's not too ugly just get a set you use just for going out
9 months ago
Anonymous
People notice they are just too polite to say something. Buy some antiperspirant. It will have an aluminum salt that will prevent you from sweating. >but muh aluminum salts might possibly cause health problems
no one cares, it has not been proven, and its better than stinking. >i don't know which one to get
see picture
9 months ago
Anonymous
Is unscented actually unscented or does it smell of unscented?
Ask her out for a beer or coffee. Something that will only last an hour so if you have no chemistry you both can get away quick.
If it goes well ask her out to something longer next time. Cinema, countryside, coast etc.
That's stupid though. I shouldn't have to go to designated social interaction space to talk to someone.
I have coffee at home. Now I want woman at home. I don't want to go out.
Inviting people to go to your place on the getgo is creepy and you're not handsome and charismatic enough to pull it off
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not handsome or charismatic enough to talk to ask out women in the first place.
Plus I don't know any women.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Then either do the song and dance that is expected of your status or limit your expectations, no woman is going to teleport on your wiener
9 months ago
Anonymous
>the song and dance that is expected of your status
Which is what? Like I said if I "go out to le bar", there's still no opportunity to talk to strangers. It doesn't happen.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There is an opportunity, you can try by getting the bartender on your side, going with friends and approaching a female friend group, buy a drink for a girl who's obviously lonely herself
But you cannot do anything if you do not have any self confidence in the first place, work on yourself, on your appearance and your habits and then try, you'll be able to pull the homely chicks and the fat chicks and from then you can build up
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't have friends and I'm far too autistic to know when it's acceptable to approach someone, unless they're very open about the fact that they're open.
If people aren't making a point of talking to me first, it's just not happening.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Go to an autism specialist therapist then, if you're not emotionally intelligent you can rationally interpret emotional signals
Nothing will work if you do not work on yourself first
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm trying. That's also harder to arrange than you think it is.
>when it's acceptable to approach someone
It's never acceptable.
So how do people do it?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm trying
That's good >So how do people do it?
They either have the emotional intelligence to gauge whether or not they can approach someone or they have zero inhibitions go at it randomly
9 months ago
Anonymous
What I'm grasping is you basically have to deal with the fact that you're making an aggressive intrusion into someone else's personal space, and do it anyway.
I think I fundamentally can't do that. It feels wrong.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I think I fundamentally can't do that. It feels wrong.
That's because you're self projecting, it's a great offense to you but to most people and especially women that deal with it daily it's a mild annoyance, therefore not that intrusive
9 months ago
Anonymous
They definitely act like it's intrusive. They keep trying to make it illegal.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's because women are more theatrical and emotional, they exaggerate things in their mind, you should never take them as seriously as you would take a man. It's no wonder cluster C personality types are majorly women while cluster A are majorly men.
I'm 31 yo and last saturday i just had my first kiss. I bet she (24) knew.
I don't think i did too bad but the fricking b***h even tried to use her tongue. Is that normal on a first kiss?
Yes, especially since you're much older than her, she expects more domination and more experience than someone around her age
9 months ago
Anonymous
The idea that I'm somehow supposed to know exactly how much a person wants to be sexually harassed at any moment is too big of a hurdle for me to pass. Literally how do you know these things?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The issue is you think any interpersonal interaction or courting is supposed to be sexual harassment..
Most women don't like being treated like a sex object, you must fool them into thinking their personality is what is attractive to you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think literally walking up to another person and propositioning them for sex count as sexual harassment.
9 months ago
Anonymous
it's a normal interpersonal skill you learn from experience, like anything else, like being able to tell by body language, expressions etc whether somebody really likes you or just endures your company out of politeness or whatever. it can't really be explained because it's a bunch of subtle cues that differ from person to person and situation to situation. if you're autismal you will have trouble with it, otherwise it's just a question of experience.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So we arrive at "don't be autistic".
9 months ago
Anonymous
Asking a woman for coffee is hardly sexual harassment, one might pretend it is but that's because she's repulsed by scenarios she's made up in her mind, if you're being extremely creepy she will 100% ask another man to intervene, majority of the time she'd just reject you, wherein the appropriate response is simply accepting it and moving on. Most of the time, people ignoring said rejection tend to be the ones being accused of sexual harassment, if you just accept it then you're fine. >Literally how do you know these things?
Most people aren't as individual as they think they are, they snugly fit into archetypes that has their life down to a T, psychology might be a soft science but it's still a science.
>she expects more domination and more experience than someone around her age
Fuuuuuck me, i hope i didn't frick it up due to such a dumb shit. I don't even wanna think about how it's gonna be for sex.
Don't worry about it, if you're still interacting then she's not put off by it, start by asking what she likes and move on from there, if you want to hide your inexperience you can pretend that you were considered too forward by a previous partner
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Asking a woman for coffee is hardly sexual harassment
I would only be doing it if I wanted to frick them, and we both immediately know that that is the case.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There's wanting to frick them and wanting to build a relationship with them, they are not the same thing and they are perceived differently, how you go about it is how it'll be perceived
9 months ago
Anonymous
>and wanting to build a relationship with them
So I can frick them, yeah.
I mean, if they're interested in playing Smash Bros with me, I'd be into that too, but they never are.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>So I can frick them
*make love to them
One thing is casual sex and a completely different thing passionate sex >I mean, if they're interested in playing Smash Bros with me
The average Stacy you'd meet at the club, most likely no, unless you nudge her into it, but the average nerdy chick then most likely. End all be all you can get any woman to watch a Goose flick with you, so that should be a starting point.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>hello, m'lady, might I make love to you?
Where am I gonna find a nerdy chick, apart from on Twitch, where they have a hundred men already competing for their attention?
I talk to those women a lot, because I'm that lonely, but they don't need someone like me as anything more than an occasional viewer. They're not going to reach out to me and try to know me in any real sense.
9 months ago
Anonymous
NEVER compete for a woman, it's gross. Get yourself a /cgl/ gf. Those women are crazyyyyy sexual. Dated one for 3 years.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Get yourself a /cgl/ gf.
How am I supposed to do that?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that you think interacting with some female streamer online is anything like real socializing is insane. Any female that broadcasts herself online is already getting run through like Sherman went through Georgia. I promise you they were taking miles of Chad dick on Tinder before they escalated to streaming to vet their suitors and supplement their Chad-dick live-laugh-love flings with simp attention. You're literally there to help her balance her emotional states during the inevitable post-date slump.
Gen-Z is utterly fricked.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I know it's not "real". I'm not stupid. This is what I have available though.
I've tried talking to randos from /soc/, but any one on one conversation just seems to end in ghosting after I realise I have nothing to say to them, and they realise they don't like me.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>she expects more domination and more experience than someone around her age
Fuuuuuck me, i hope i didn't frick it up due to such a dumb shit. I don't even wanna think about how it's gonna be for sex.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>So how do people do it?
They accept the fact that they might end up looking creepy/cringy and still go through it because their monkey reproduction brain is stronger than the fear of the cringe. High inhibition neurotic autists like us have it the other way around where the fear of cringe is way stronger than the need to insert your penis into a vegana, so nothing ever happens.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>when it's acceptable to approach someone
It's never acceptable.
>How could she tell?
He wasn't pulling her pigtails. She was pulling his. If a girl teases you in means she likes you, or at least you've got an "in". When she busted his balls his was uptight and annoyed and took it all too seriously, suggesting he didn't know how to play with a girl and maintain his frame psychologically. Contrast this with even the Halfhand who sort of toyed with her a little bit.
i dont understand why anons get so worked up over this image, it doesnt come across as an insult. but then again i stopped watching immediatly after fat feast king guy died so maybe im wrong
it's not insulting, it just means you're suddenly exposed in a way you didn't even realize you were which immediately triggers the defense mechanisms in everyone who's even mildly insecure about themselves
She had to worm her way into his heart first. Even then his guilt revolves around whether or not he was the one who killed her with that arrow. Jon ultimately fricks up in ADWD because of yigrette
Escorts are cheaper than you think, even really high end ones, and most will legitimately take pity on you if you tell them you're a virgin. You might as well get over the hump. Sex is nice, but it's unironically really overrated, but you can't understand that and stop obsessing until you've experienced first hand
It's not about the sex, and that's what non-virgins fail to understand. It's about feeling unwanted. I don't want to frick a prozzie, I want a girl to genuinely want to frick me like it happens to 99% of people, but that ship's sailed, hasn't it?
Yes, it has. At least you can have the physical experience, and if she's good you might even believe it for a second. Look for GFE. But I feel you brother. I've never been loved by anyone, and my life is mostly just passing the time until I die. But even in this I can find contentment. It unironically gets easier, or you just become enured to it all.
>I want a girl to genuinely want to frick me like it happens to 99% of people
We "chose" democracy and "prosperity" and "safety" and that means an inevitable decline that starts to look like pre-civilization in a lot of weird ways, such as the vast majority of men never having sex. This is intentional, as civil unrest is necessary to justify putting society on lockdown awaiting the graduate but deliberate reduction of population, starting with the middle classes and ending with the lower classes.
Do not fear, though. Everything is under control. And what you are experiencing is only the appearance of pre-civilizational barbarism, misery, and despair. For the ruling class, their lives will be anything but ugly, brutish, and short.
Oh, sod off. Ugly c**ts have sex all the time. Literally everyone I know has no matter how smelly or moronic because they lucked into it.
It's not some grand conspiracy. I'm just salty I never got the chance.
do you actually put yourself out there? I don't get much either, but I don't put myself in any situations that present the chance, 0 interactions with suitable females in the past year
9 months ago
Anonymous
What are those situations? Because clearly just "going out" isn't enough, and we've been over that.
If there's some pre-requisite that everyone is supposed to have a sizable friend group first, then how do they get that?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The funniest thing is that I do. I go out with my friends to clubs. I went to vacations at touristy places.I do everything to 'put myself out there'
But it just doesn't happen. I can't just walk up to some chick and go 'hi' I just can't. I've never seen anyone try it. I've never heard anyone trying it. It just feels like those things you see in the movies. Distant and fake.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>ut it just doesn't happen. I can't just walk up to some chick and go 'hi' I just can't. I've never seen anyone try it. I've never heard anyone trying it. It just feels like those things you see in the movies. Distant and fake.
I know that feel. I went to countless clubs, parties, concerts with my friends etc and same exact thing. Never even have I seen any of them do any such thing. And yet they all somehow have gfs/wives now while I'm still a kissless virgin lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
Most of the time, those guys got them through friend groups where the ice was already broken, introductions were made and connections were built up. It helps that many couples love playing matchmaker with their own friend groups something that I am guilty of myself.
>hello, m'lady, might I make love to you?
Where am I gonna find a nerdy chick, apart from on Twitch, where they have a hundred men already competing for their attention?
I talk to those women a lot, because I'm that lonely, but they don't need someone like me as anything more than an occasional viewer. They're not going to reach out to me and try to know me in any real sense.
, m'lady, might I make love to you?
I didn't imply that and you know it. Wanting sex and wanting companionship are two separate things that both men and women understand, your approach dictates what the implication is.
Like
NEVER compete for a woman, it's gross. Get yourself a /cgl/ gf. Those women are crazyyyyy sexual. Dated one for 3 years.
said, there's libraries, conventions, game stores, discords what have you, if Chris-chan managed to strike up a friendship with Megan at The Game Place, then you can meet a woman at one such place yourself.
Try not to let your autism get in the way though, most women are surface level plebs and that includes nerdy ones, expect shit takes and shit taste, do not let it affect you.
We met on bumble 2 months go and started dating after the first week.
And i dunno, i decided to be very straight forward about. >drop her at her mom's house >saying goodbye while sitting on my car >she says we should talk about us next time with cheeky smile >i say we should do it right now instead >i ask her if we'll be a couple or i should run away already (we joke like that all the time) >she gives me an even bigger smile and says "not unless we kiss first" >she leans forward for it and i somehow manage to not spill the spaghetti >i go for something just a bit over a peck >we kissed that way 3 times and i felt her tongue touching my lips the last 2 times >she says "i thought we were gonna kiss?" >i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time" >"oh ok, see you next week anon, let's talk more then"
I fricked up didn't i? We're going to the movies this friday but i don't even know what to do. I feel like just telling her straight that she should teach me if she wants to kiss that way, whatever.
Both
>i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time"
Goddamn it, anon. That's hilarious, but don't you worry. Being silly can be part of the game.
Just give a her goddamn tongue kiss next time, my boy. If she decided to go out with you again, all is not lost. Probably. Just feel her vibes and you should be fine.
Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s. I guess you should be the one leading the relationship not the younger girl. so definitely don't let her lead the way because it will fall apart very quickly. Just go head on first and learn as you fail.
Take in mind that I write this as a completely clueless kissless virgin lol
Are good points, it wasn't that bad, just make sure you limit such prudishness, you're in your 30s you're not expected to act like that, slip a little tongue, caress her sides a little and slowly climb up, if she's into it, you'll grab tiddy and if she starts grabbing your wiener then you're most likely free to start grabbing c**t
9 months ago
Anonymous
None of my local libraries or game stores are social spaces. They're businesses run by closed off and unfriendly people. I don't know what world you're living in, but it isn't mine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Stop wallowing in self pity and defeatism, if that way is unavailable then there are other ways to go about it, outdoor activities, arts & crafts, dance classes, volunteering
The problem isn't really the options or lack thereof, it's your attitude towards your goals.
Work on yourself first then worry about sex, because even if you magically end up in a relationship, your unsolved issues will catch up to you, screw up your relationship and it'll end up being a bigger regret than not doing anything.
>most women are surface level plebs and that includes nerdy ones, expect shit takes and shit taste, do not let it affect you.
It's deeper than that. Women have no opinions. They are empty. They only have groups and/or men which pour their opinions into the empty female vessel. Wanna get more red/black -pilled on women? That nerdy girl you think is so cool and relateable and accessible is just channeling an older brother at best but most likely an ex-boyfriend who she bonded with and is looking to summon a replacement for like some post ww2 pacific island savage doing a dance to summon "cargo"
Women are definitely nerdy when it comes to things that validate them, either being lite spiritualism, occulitism, astrology, teen entertainment and games like the sims and stuff like that, when she crosses over to more masculine hobbies then yes, your argument applies, even with music tastes, if it's not on the top 100 then it's most likely taught by a male figure in her life
9 months ago
Anonymous
>work on yourself
I would, but even that's harder to do than you think it is.
When you just went wrong at some level of development and don't understand how to interact socially with the rest of society, how do you self-improve from that?
I've tried to get professional help, and it kind of just seems like there is nowhere to go. You get "councillors" who basically exist to comfort grieving widows, or angsty teenagers who got themselves on drugs, but for people who just never "got in" with society, there doesn't really seem to be anything.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>how do you self-improve from that?
nta but what fixed me was getting a job and being forced to interact with people on a daily basis, social skills are exactly that a "skill" that needs to be practiced and honed.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't really know how to get a job, and I don't think I would be able to psychologically cope with that kind of a shock to my routine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't really know how to get a job,
go onto indeed.com, search your area and then when you find something you like hit, its just like making a new vidya account. >I don't think I would be able to psychologically cope with that kind of a shock to my routine.
here is going to be the biggest kicker you quite literally need to fricking get over it because the longer you are stuck in your "routine" the harder it will be to break it and if you refuse to make any effort to break it you might as well give up now because nothing is ever going to fall into your lap. "but X" buddy you can think of a million excuses to not doing something you can think of a million stressors you can have all sorts of shit thats wrong with your brain but those are your struggles you need to work through them and if you are unwilling to make the effort you might as well be low functioning.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>its just like making a new vidya account.
You say that like it's an easy thing, but more than once I have averted doing something I wanted to do, just because it would have involved making an account. >just change
I understand the sentiment, but I'm not going to, or I would have done it by now.
I fundamentally cannot walk out of my house and attend a job interview.
I even agreed to to some voluntary work once, walked all of the way to the thing, and then turned around and went home, and never contacted those people again. I wanted to do it, and my body wouldn't let me.
9 months ago
Anonymous
so just kys if you want to keep being a mentally weak homosexual that just complain about his situation.
And here i thought my i was bad
9 months ago
Anonymous
Would you believe, I can't kill myself either?
9 months ago
Anonymous
yes i would believe you because it takes courage to do it actually
Are you literally me, anon?
It's just so infuriating because they all have those stories about how they lucked into their gfs, being introduced by friends or their fricking parents yet they all call me a pussy for not doing something they'd never in a million years do, like hit on a random chick.
actually it's just worse when they actually hit on random chick to show you how it's done since they dont care and get successful, always feel like something is wrong with me
9 months ago
Anonymous
I can't just choose to have courage.
9 months ago
Anonymous
this is what happens when you are raised to worship women
9 months ago
Anonymous
yes you can it's called vodka, drink some before trying something you couldnt before and see how it goes
9 months ago
Anonymous
I most outrageous thing I've ever done while drunk is be moderately rude to people. I'm not about to just reinvent my life, no matter how drunk I get. I have tried that option.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>don’t understand how to interact socially >how do you self-improve
It really is you just have to do it. It does sound like you need to keep looking for actual help for something like OCD, but there’s no magic secret for the “be more normal part”. You do the shitty scary stuff until it’s marginally less shitty and scary and you can at least pretend it’s not.
The most important thing is you do SOMETHING. If you’re going to deflect every suggestion with “I can’t” then you won’t change. Just pick anything, one at a time, and change it until it’s not weird anymore. Different clothes, hygiene, interacting with people in businesses without prejudging them, change to routine, literally anything.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Women are definitely nerdy when it comes to things that validate them, either being lite spiritualism, occulitism, astrology, teen entertainment and games like the sims and stuff like that,
I suppose that's true if you accept the broad, current definition of "nerd" which suggests anyone can be nerdy about anything, thus making girls who are only into girlie things "girl nerds". But even a girl who is a legit "sci-fi nerd" is going to be of little value as a ready-made partner if all she's into is mary sue fanfic. I want her to be specifically supportive of my interests and helpful or at least malleable to my life with them. I don't want her bringing her baggage, even if it's posing as "these are my legit nerd interests". It almost never is.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I want her to be specifically supportive of my interests and helpful or at least malleable to my life with them
If she's supportive of you then she'll be pliable towards your interests, that's the case with most women. I'm pretty sure if Henry Cavill asked his gf to paint minis with him, then she'd do it. >I don't want her bringing her baggage
You can't escape that, entire cosmogonies were built around the fact that women are a burden, you won't find the exception.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>entire cosmogonies were built around the fact that women are a burden, you won't find the exception.
I don't want her bringing her baggage at the expense of my work and interests, which is the context of what I posted and an inevitable issue if a girl is out waving her nerd tail plumage to attract a replacement for her oneitis. I'm not naive to women's nature going back to The Garden. A certain amount of overhead is to be expected as is a degree of compromise in becoming a couple.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>and an inevitable issue if a girl is out waving her nerd tail plumage to attract a replacement for her oneitis
That's why you generally avoid the women that act and say they're like "one of the guys" that type of "nerdy" woman tends to be the type you described
9 months ago
Anonymous
>most women are surface level plebs and that includes nerdy ones, expect shit takes and shit taste, do not let it affect you.
It's deeper than that. Women have no opinions. They are empty. They only have groups and/or men which pour their opinions into the empty female vessel. Wanna get more red/black -pilled on women? That nerdy girl you think is so cool and relateable and accessible is just channeling an older brother at best but most likely an ex-boyfriend who she bonded with and is looking to summon a replacement for like some post ww2 pacific island savage doing a dance to summon "cargo"
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are you literally me, anon?
It's just so infuriating because they all have those stories about how they lucked into their gfs, being introduced by friends or their fricking parents yet they all call me a pussy for not doing something they'd never in a million years do, like hit on a random chick.
>a desire to be intertwined fates
yes, but it's not 'respect' like you have for authority. it's boundless affection almost sacrificial because you wish to combine your life with theirs
with it should come a strength of faith, irrational (not in the negative sense) belief in something higher, something inherently good
>Escorts are cheaper than you think, even really high end ones, and most will legitimately take pity on you if you tell them you're a virgin
As always with women, only if you're handsome
i mean at this point in the story he's supposed to be about 14 and he's part of an army of non-sex havers and he's clearly being shy/prudish in front of this very attractive woman she didn't know for sure but was trying to wind him up and succeeded
Since this is the incel thread, I'm gonna ask a girl out next time I see her. I've been coached by friends on how to do it already
I don't have any real experience at 25 cause I've only been with a guy before so we'll see how it goes, wish me luck Cinemaphile
So uh, from what I've been told, the act itself doesn't matter much because the girl will likely pick her answer based on how you look anyways.
So tldr, just act too nervous, for myself I'll just walk up to her, ask her name, say I've been checking her out and then ask for her whatsapp
In the short term it's not so easy to immediately get if someone is a virgin or not unless you're a totally dysfunctional disaster who can barely exist in the real world, but in the mid-long term absolutely you can be sure that everyone who you interact with even just semi regularly knows it.
It's mostly subconscious too, people talk about relationships fairly regularly and if you never share anything at all people just sort of get that you first don't want to talk about it, and then why you don't talk about it.
And they almost feel more embarrassed to bring it up to you then you are, you can notice that those people/coworkers stop talking about relationships and sex related things around you altogether because of it.
So in short yes people who know you know, but if they are not family or someone close they don't want to open that can of worms and deal with it around you.
It all comes up fairly quickly though, you can't hide such gigantic inexperience for long.
I'm 31 yo and last saturday i just had my first kiss. I bet she (24) knew.
I don't think i did too bad but the fricking b***h even tried to use her tongue. Is that normal on a first kiss?
>I'm 31 yo and last saturday i just had my first kiss
Congrats, how did you do it? Or more precisely, how did you get in the situation for that to finally happen?
We met on bumble 2 months go and started dating after the first week.
And i dunno, i decided to be very straight forward about. >drop her at her mom's house >saying goodbye while sitting on my car >she says we should talk about us next time with cheeky smile >i say we should do it right now instead >i ask her if we'll be a couple or i should run away already (we joke like that all the time) >she gives me an even bigger smile and says "not unless we kiss first" >she leans forward for it and i somehow manage to not spill the spaghetti >i go for something just a bit over a peck >we kissed that way 3 times and i felt her tongue touching my lips the last 2 times >she says "i thought we were gonna kiss?" >i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time" >"oh ok, see you next week anon, let's talk more then"
I fricked up didn't i? We're going to the movies this friday but i don't even know what to do. I feel like just telling her straight that she should teach me if she wants to kiss that way, whatever.
>i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time"
Goddamn it, anon. That's hilarious, but don't you worry. Being silly can be part of the game.
Just give a her goddamn tongue kiss next time, my boy. If she decided to go out with you again, all is not lost. Probably. Just feel her vibes and you should be fine.
>Just give a her goddamn tongue kiss next time, my boy.
Dude, how the hell am i suppossed to do that without making it even more awkward? Let me remind you i'm a virgin (formerly kissless) that never had a gf before.
>Being silly can be part of the game.
Yeah that's the good thing about us, we have the same kind of humor. Frick it, hqil mary, i'll just tell her to teach me to tongue kiss and i'll teach her how to do taxes.
Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s. I guess you should be the one leading the relationship not the younger girl. so definitely don't let her lead the way because it will fall apart very quickly. Just go head on first and learn as you fail.
Take in mind that I write this as a completely clueless kissless virgin lol
>Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s
You joke but i literally am.
Most of the time, those guys got them through friend groups where the ice was already broken, introductions were made and connections were built up. It helps that many couples love playing matchmaker with their own friend groups something that I am guilty of myself.
[...]
, m'lady, might I make love to you?
I didn't imply that and you know it. Wanting sex and wanting companionship are two separate things that both men and women understand, your approach dictates what the implication is.
Like [...] said, there's libraries, conventions, game stores, discords what have you, if Chris-chan managed to strike up a friendship with Megan at The Game Place, then you can meet a woman at one such place yourself.
Try not to let your autism get in the way though, most women are surface level plebs and that includes nerdy ones, expect shit takes and shit taste, do not let it affect you.
[...]
Both [...] [...]
Are good points, it wasn't that bad, just make sure you limit such prudishness, you're in your 30s you're not expected to act like that, slip a little tongue, caress her sides a little and slowly climb up, if she's into it, you'll grab tiddy and if she starts grabbing your wiener then you're most likely free to start grabbing c**t
>if she's into it, you'll grab tiddy and if she starts grabbing your wiener then you're most likely free to start grabbing c**t
Probably gonna sound like an incel but i have no interest in sex at the moment. I just don't wanna frickit up with her.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with telling her you’d never kissed someone before that. You don’t have to be all “you’ll have to teach me” unless you want to/you think she’s especially into it.
If you like her and plan to try to make it something long term it’s going to come up and lack of experience could be obvious anyways.
I would try not to stay in your head about it. You overestimate how much women will care about this and the quality of their previous partners. Most women have not been dating 10/10 gigachads that frick them for 2 hours while you were kissless kek
>I would try not to stay in your head about it. You overestimate how much women will care about this and the quality of their previous partners.
She's only had 1 bf before but they were together for 5 years (they broke up 2-3 years ago). She's definitely more experienced than me on all acounts, that's for sure.
I think it's gonna come down to the vibes i get from her the next time i see her. Frick it, if she's not the one it's fine, at least now i know i'm not a lost cause.
Thank you all for the advice.
>Probably gonna sound like an incel but i have no interest in sex at the moment. I just don't wanna frickit up with her.
anon you're gonna frick it up by not having sex even if she's a bawd enjoy yourself
Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s. I guess you should be the one leading the relationship not the younger girl. so definitely don't let her lead the way because it will fall apart very quickly. Just go head on first and learn as you fail.
Take in mind that I write this as a completely clueless kissless virgin lol
>Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s.
Not that anon but this literally destroyed my will to participate in civilized society.
I used to want to contribute to things being better, but now I just want to watch society degenerate and hopefully get to wreak violence on bandits and criminals as it gets worse
an awkward dating experience destroyed your will to participate in society?
I don't know what to tell you anon. maybe try again in a few million years when you've evolved in to a vertebrate.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with telling her you’d never kissed someone before that. You don’t have to be all “you’ll have to teach me” unless you want to/you think she’s especially into it.
If you like her and plan to try to make it something long term it’s going to come up and lack of experience could be obvious anyways.
I would try not to stay in your head about it. You overestimate how much women will care about this and the quality of their previous partners. Most women have not been dating 10/10 gigachads that frick them for 2 hours while you were kissless kek
>I don’t think there’s anything wrong with telling her you’d never kissed someone before that
A 31 year old man should NEVER ever tell a girl that he never kissed before, what the frick are you smoking? It's like telling him to shoot himself in the foot for no reason.
Such a thing might pass for a young 20 year old, but a 31 year old man admitting to a younger girl that he never even kissed a girl is probably the biggest "ick!" red flag to women possible. For women it's like getting into a plane to see an older pilot, the plane takes off and then the pilot says that this is his first time flying any plane ever. Absolutely nothing good will come from that.
Believe it or not yes. We're both really introvert i guess.
[...]
Why didn't you try dating apps sooner?
And how long were you using them before you matched with her?
t. considering online dating
I did but it never worked before because i made a shitty profile. I only started taking it seriously almost a year ago and gotten tons of matches (only actually met in person 3 of them though).
It's definitely worth it. You'll probably get disappointed and get your heart broken many times like i did, but i've learned a lot of shit i should've learned over the decades.
We met on bumble 2 months go and started dating after the first week.
And i dunno, i decided to be very straight forward about. >drop her at her mom's house >saying goodbye while sitting on my car >she says we should talk about us next time with cheeky smile >i say we should do it right now instead >i ask her if we'll be a couple or i should run away already (we joke like that all the time) >she gives me an even bigger smile and says "not unless we kiss first" >she leans forward for it and i somehow manage to not spill the spaghetti >i go for something just a bit over a peck >we kissed that way 3 times and i felt her tongue touching my lips the last 2 times >she says "i thought we were gonna kiss?" >i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time" >"oh ok, see you next week anon, let's talk more then"
I fricked up didn't i? We're going to the movies this friday but i don't even know what to do. I feel like just telling her straight that she should teach me if she wants to kiss that way, whatever.
Why didn't you try dating apps sooner?
And how long were you using them before you matched with her?
t. considering online dating
women can't tell, unless you do so. This is a tv show and the writers decided to push for the very common, and wrong, idea that women can sense a virgin.
They can't.
Turned 32 last month, after passing the 30 year old mark I've been having nonstop dreams about having a gf. Not even sexual for the most part, it's driving me insane, I really thought I was over this when I failed to get a girl in my teenage years. My brain is fricking with me bad.
no, you're an incel if you're involuntary celibate
if you were referring to "incel" how dumb c**ts online use it though, you just have to be male to qualify, so yes
she could smell the built up cum in his balls
The actor who played John Snow could have any woman he wants but ends up with this thing. Fricking disgusting.
just like irl
the prettiest boys get ignored and hook up with the first that shows them attention, usually mid women
>thinks Ygritte is ugly
homosexual.
she got the ick and knew instantly
The virgin walk
until now, you dirty prostitute
He couldn't astral project her menstrual cycle into a constellation using healing crystals on the night of the fullmoon. Rookie shit.
No man over the age of 25 should even care about being accused of this. Male virginity is more sacred than it has ever been. Every woman wishes they could take that innocence these days.
>Male virginity is more sacred than it has ever been.
Weird cope. Same energy as Jon Snow had in this scene.
>Male virginity is more sacred than it has ever been
Maybe if you're gay
This. To go so long without sex demonstrates real self control and discipline.
It's so easy to get with some drunk prostitute or simply pay for it but the guys who last that long are built different.
They don't live by society's standards of what a man should or should not have done by certain points in his life, he follows his own path.
Incels actually believe this
Sex is overhyped. Yes its great, but it shouldn't be a priority.
>To go so long without sex demonstrates real self control and discipline
lmao
t. incel virgin
Why would you laugh and then sign your post "incel virgin"? Seems like the joke is on you...
I never have had to show any restrain or disclipine because I never had opportunities for sex.
>To go so long without sex demonstrates real self control and discipline.
you don't have self-control if you jerk off wasting your cum and you are not fit
>To go so long without sex demonstrates real self control and discipline
you are too deep in denial
lol
Damn, women suck.
Nightmare fuel
>To go so long without sex demonstrates real self control and discipline.
y-yeah... haha...
true, incels and roasties real heated about this one
>nnnnoooooo not my bussey don't enter there itz sakrad
This. Every time some moron mentions "male virginity" it just comes off like he's talking about having not been sodomized yet.
This post is going to depress me for the rest of the day. Thanks moron.
>No man over the age of 25 should even care about being accused of this
lmao lets laugh at this incel
>Male virginity is more sacred than it has ever been. Every woman wishes they could take that innocence these days.
cope, but your first sentence is circumstantially true
>Every woman wishes they could take that innocence these days.
Women dislike men that are chaste. Women also dislike men who are shy/timid about romance and sex
Women really REALLY hate men that are sexually and romantically inexperienced
You're living in a fantasy
Jokes on them: I hated them first.
You are both right but what the post you replied to forgot to mention is that you have to be attractive for women to wish to take your innocence.
Lost my virginity a couple days ago but didn't cum because we were in a rush (she had to take a bus and then a plane). What's my situation?
you're fine, just roll with it
don't worry about it, just let it go where it goes
if it all goes sideways, better luck next time. pretty much nobody gets it right the first few times around, and every lesson is built on a failure.
Women can smell your desperation
Even if you are an apathetic incel who "hates women" they can smell your inexperience with the opposite sex
I'm not some super mega GigaChad who was sex all the time but I'm not ugly and girls have shown interest in me. I have rejected several women because they were too ugly and dumb
Why do all these woman expert posts always have to add the "i have sex btw"
to the end as if the implied expertise in what women are like shouldn't be sufficient?
When was the last time you had sex? Be honest
I meant to today but I told her she's not autistic and then she got mad and said I was invalidating her feelings and then we didn't frick.
Before that it was at least one or two months ago probably. I don't keep track of time that long.
what's the proper response?
The only response is to strip her naked on the spot and frick her confidently. Anything else and you are confirmed for homo.
Without sounding mad ? None
rape
Smile, be confident and flirt with her.
>"There is only one way to know"
It's all in the eyes. Plus, women are like cats, they get crazy if their curiosity isn't satisfied.
Depends on the situation
If you wanna hit it, be playful, example:
>Wouldn't you like to know?
If you don't then tell her that it's better being a virgin than losing it to her, to the majority of women, being a male virgin is pathetic and refusing a woman's control over your virginity means that she's so pathetic that she's not worth the loss of said virginity, a huge blow to their ego
otherwise, you can challenge their status in which you get two scenarios
either she's been with a few partners or none, something that you can mock yourself (even though it's virtuous)
or she can admit to being a bawd wherein you can mock her for that, which is arguably worse for her ego
reminder that the average woman is a lot more emotional and more prone to lose control than the average male
as long as you do not offer an emotional response and by extension power over you, you have this in the bag, the key in all scenarios is indifference
That doesn't sound like the kind of problem you'd have though
Nuh-uh!
Say "ok" and just continue trekking or polishing your sword of whatever you're doing. The trick is you have to actually not care.
Although you run the risk of her hating you because women don't like men who preemptively genuinely write them off as being inferior
>how could you tell?
the only people that get offended at being called a virgin are the actual virgins. if you're not a virgin then you know that sex/intimacy is fun and enjoyable but it's not that big of a deal, it's just sex.
>sex/intimacy is fun and enjoyable but it's not that big of a deal, it's just sex.
For men. For women, it has massive physical, spiritual, and psychological implications.
>"Would be great if you could help me demonstrate it to you on how to be a proper man."
>ok?
I don't get it.
I think it's the same guy replying to his post, I've done this in the past.
im in that screenshot
stop laugh tracking your screencaps.
if it's not worth saving without the generic reaction images then it's not worth saving at all.
It's over.
There is no smell.
They came up with the false logic that you should and you must flirt with women no matter how ugly they are because we live in a society built for the comfort of women.
Whether you desire them or reject them they win and they call whoever they dislike a virgin. That's the false logic giving them this comfort they need so much to keep on consuming and wage their best years away. The persons who made this logic possible don't think of you as a men but as animals.
She can't.
It's a defense mechanism in women who are faced with a man uninterested in her bullshit.
Or
But again it's still a 50/50 shot. Because I've encountered that shit many times and I've been married for frick sake.
EPIC CinemaphileNER COLLAGE!!!!! r/Cinemaphile IS GONNA GO WILD FOR THIS ONE!!!!!
What if I really don't desire certain girls? and I'm not a virgin.
Thats just make you gay. you homosexual.
i'm so glad people don't do this reply collage shit any more, it's frickin cringe
It's only because zoomers and free speech tourists phone post and/or can't use even basic image editing suites. It's not because they're any less obsessed with online "social" validation. They're actually much more sensitive to it. Plus, reactions are even less valuable in a post-2020 world where 80% of Cinemaphile is from some shithole country and barely understands English.
>look mother I too posted "jaja frick out you guy" with the frog image just like the Americans
Didn't ask, newbie
uh oh chuddy pisspants is upset. pic related, it's you when my epic facts and logic booted you right in the infinity stones.
women will call guys that have had sex a virgin, there's nothing special about it beyond using it either as an insult or women 'banter'
they just know
virgins have that dumb unsure face
she's so annoying, and I'm gonna use a zoomer term here, she's MID. she's fricking mid. like yeah she's not bad on the eyes, maybe a little butch, but then she opens her fricking mouth and my dick goes turtle mode
>she's MID.
That's the point of character
Women can smell virgins up to a quarter mile
Your body language is different when you've never put it inside a woman. It's a boundary you've never crossed vs men who have multiple times. Once you do that enough times women leave you alone, or start coming onto you if you're good looking
Because he got embarrassed when she teased him about it you spergs
How do I ask a girl out
I'm 34 and a virgin
Ask a girl that.
Horrible advice, women always offer advice on how they think want to be treated, which is never how they actually want to be treated
Most of the time, female advice on getting women is shit like
>treat them like individuals, be sensitive, learn girl things
Problem is when you do that you end up being the gay best friend, because generally women tend to not be attracted to other women
fricking this, the one time i asked my sister on how to get girls i ended up getting friendzoned by every single one i approached.
ironically enough knowing women and going out in public with them gets you so much pussy its ridiculous, im a solid 4 but whenever im at a coffee shop or something with the one female friend i have, women are suddenly smiling at me and being super nice and flirty.
just b urself and
you go to the asian massage parlor with curtains over the windows and leave some extra money out
Are there any with decent looking women under 30?
If you live in a major city
>Are there any with decent looking women under 30?
yeah of course
>Are there any with decent looking women under 30 with a single digit body count and no tattoos
maybe mormon chicks
Before you ask a girl out go to a gay bar. Some gay will definitely proposition you and boost your self esteem. Then go to the girl and use the same method the gay used to approach you. Works every time.
sounds like a build up from peep show
Should I also have sex with gay men to learn how to have sex with women?
Terrible advice from a gay incel (and/or excon)
imagine being a homosexual incel trying to score a bussy and you come to a guy in a GAY bar and he says "sorry bro but I'm straight I'm just here to... ehhh... boost my self-esteem, yes"
>Nice beard!
>Is your wiener as hard as your jawline?
That will work wonders with ladies, anon.
Just be yourself bro and remember, pussy is overrated bro
>I'm 34 and a virgin
Holy LARPing Batman!
I got close once but I dropped my spaghetti naked on her couch and she threw me out
>larping
haha yeah..
33 and in the same position, it's not that implausible
>anime screenshot
i may have found your problem, bud
Anime is never the problem, friend.
I'll do you one better. How do you actually find people who want to interact with you socially? Literally have not known how to do that since I was about 12, and then it was just the luck of having to go to a building with about a thousand other kids every day, and more or less having socialisation forced on me, to the point that it was inevitable I would find one person who likes having me around.
Literally what do you do past a certain point? "Go to da bar", and sit in a corner by yourself, while everyone else went there with their friends, and only wants to talk to their friends?
"Join a le web community", and be the eternal outsider, because the oldgays are already friends with each other?
It's the same problem everywhere.
Same rules as ever, just no mushy middle. Everything is polarized, not just politics. Be ruthless in finding what you're good at and then "be undeniable". People will engage with you and want to be around you. You just have to be realistic and not expect 24/7 acceptance and attention because no gives that anymore except family. But if you actually work on yourself and build self-confidence in the process of finding what you're good at, you won't be needy either.
Basically, avoid "hanging out" sort of social engagement because that's inherently low value and the people who rise in those situation are thots and sociopaths. Aim for expertise, any kind, and learn how to make an entrance (show up late) and leave early. Never give up on spending time alone and make your peace with FOMO. You are trying to be not 100% totally alone, not fill up all your social needs.
Telling people to achieve professional success pretty much just leads back around to the same thing.
"Just go to da business meeting!". Where? Which one?
Why does everyone else know about all of this stuff?
Anon, i'm telling you to be good at something -anything- and engage with it socially. I'm not just talking about "professional success" but that can be the same thing.
>and engage with it socially.
How do you do that though? I could join some interest based Discord, but I would still just be the person on the outside who everyone ignores.
>How do you do that though?
Social networking isn't socializing in any meaningful health way. It's full of all kinds of para-social weirdness. I've been in "online communities" where I was very active and it's still taken a year or more to be recognized to where people were posting about me, vouching for me, etc. Not saying you should swear off being active online, but you need more than that to be fulfilled.
The negativity in your post is the depression talking. The world does not owe you social fulfillment or a solution spelled-out but will guide you if you're paying attention. Being a male means you are disposable and no one gives a shit. So find dragons to slay and keep slaying them until one day one of them kills you. That's manhood. And in the process when you git gud people will start to notice.
None of that means anything to me, and basically amounts to "dude, figure it out, or get lucky. I dunno...". Why even bother saying anything?
I ask for concrete answers for where exactly I'm supposed to go to make friends, and you give me this hot air.
Are you Australian? Because you post like an Australian. You all aren't nearly as good at bantz as you think you are.
No.
join an Austism discord and be the least autistic person there (by a slim margin)
How do you find autism discords?
And then what do you even say to people? "Hello, I have autism"?
Drive around town until you see a car with an Autism Speaks bumper sticker. Follow it until it stops at a red light. Then get out of your car and go up, politely knock on the window and say
"Pardon the interruption but I have autism and I was wondering if you know any good autism discords?"
worked for me
Wtf is this thread?
Autistic angst. What do you think it is?
Tell me what normal people are doing that I'm not doing.
>find people who want to interact with you socially?
find places its socially acceptable to mingle with people. if you are part of a church start attending church events, think about joining some kinda club, look for events being held if you local area(heres a tip game shops often host local tournaments and tabletop events) once you are at a setting where its socially acceptable to approach random people attempt to introduce yourself and yes at some of these places its not weird to randomly walk up and introduce yourself.
>"Join a le web community", and be the eternal outsider,
Most communities aren't le sekrit club and as long as you are not insufferable they won't care if are missing bits lore or history about their storied autism buddy.
I've kind of gotten to the point where I will look like a pedophile if I try to join any game groups.
>I will look like a pedophile
If you are in your 30s and stick to old game tournaments or table I guarantee you can find a group of people your age or at the very least late 20s who will not care about a 30 year old. Stop selling yourself short and even if this people don't like who fricking says you ever need to see them again in your life?
also drink or beer or 2 before hand whatever it takes to give you a slight buzz to take the edge off it will do fricking wonders for not making you a nervous wreck.
doing a bump of coke before social engagements and then one or two maintenance bumps throughout the evening did wonders for my social skills. Really was the key to unlock what was missing and I couldn't imagine going back to being "normal me" around people.
>beer
>GABA receptor antagonist
Kinda like benzos
>coke
>dopamine reuptake inhibitor
Like other NDRIs
You both can get prescriptions for both of those things with similar effect minus the drawbacks, though for beer it'd be extreme, for coke I'd definitely suggest something safer
You either have autism or OCD, if you're so rigid on your daily routine
Keep going through therapists and look for those that are specialists at what you have, if you can't find one around your area then do it online and if you don't feel that the therapist is helping you, then change therapists, they're human and they're not perfect, like any other job, some are bad some are good, keep trying or nothing will change. Dr K. might be a meme but he's pretty good with autistic gamers, look to him as an example as to what to look for.
I don't know what Dr K is.
HealthyGamerGG, a channel on youtube, he's a poo-in-loo psychiatrist, most of his videos are stuff that has to do with shut-in autistic nerds, right up your alley, he even has a discord with coaches and other autists as a support group if I'm not mistaken
I'll look at it, but I'm not expecting much out of youtube.
Shower. Wear deodorant. Wear decent (not stained/baggy/juvenile) clothes.
Nobody will even think twice. There are always older guys at all of these events, it’s only weird if you’re a weirdo.
I am a weirdo. I have autism. Being a weirdo is hardcoded in my personality.
I have issues with most of those things that you probably couldn't begin to understand. I can't "just wear nice clothes" for one thing, because I have to wear the same clothes every day, and I don't know why.
I also don't wear deodorant, because I don't really know which kind I'm supposed to buy, so I just do nothing and hope no one notices.
try going to Cinemaphile those guy are gays but it should probably give you a start to work with.
tbh you dont have to worry so much
get an haircut,get a shave,get fit,get a white shirt and some fit pants,dont smell bad so take a shower and put some cologne
No, you don't get it. I emotionally cannot bring myself to wear different clothes. It's a break from a particular rule that has been set in stone in my mind. When my clothes wear out, I basically have to buy the same thing again, and it's incredibly stressful, for reasons I don't really understand.
>When my clothes wear out, I basically have to buy the same thing again
since i dont have any pictures i cant judge but in the possibility it's not too ugly just get a set you use just for going out
People notice they are just too polite to say something. Buy some antiperspirant. It will have an aluminum salt that will prevent you from sweating.
>but muh aluminum salts might possibly cause health problems
no one cares, it has not been proven, and its better than stinking.
>i don't know which one to get
see picture
Is unscented actually unscented or does it smell of unscented?
a slight smell of soap but nothing pronounced
Ask her out for a beer or coffee. Something that will only last an hour so if you have no chemistry you both can get away quick.
If it goes well ask her out to something longer next time. Cinema, countryside, coast etc.
Do people really do that? That's so cheesy.
>hey gurl, wanna go for a coffee?
yes, thats what you do
That's stupid though. I shouldn't have to go to designated social interaction space to talk to someone.
I have coffee at home. Now I want woman at home. I don't want to go out.
Inviting people to go to your place on the getgo is creepy and you're not handsome and charismatic enough to pull it off
I'm not handsome or charismatic enough to talk to ask out women in the first place.
Plus I don't know any women.
Then either do the song and dance that is expected of your status or limit your expectations, no woman is going to teleport on your wiener
>the song and dance that is expected of your status
Which is what? Like I said if I "go out to le bar", there's still no opportunity to talk to strangers. It doesn't happen.
There is an opportunity, you can try by getting the bartender on your side, going with friends and approaching a female friend group, buy a drink for a girl who's obviously lonely herself
But you cannot do anything if you do not have any self confidence in the first place, work on yourself, on your appearance and your habits and then try, you'll be able to pull the homely chicks and the fat chicks and from then you can build up
I don't have friends and I'm far too autistic to know when it's acceptable to approach someone, unless they're very open about the fact that they're open.
If people aren't making a point of talking to me first, it's just not happening.
Go to an autism specialist therapist then, if you're not emotionally intelligent you can rationally interpret emotional signals
Nothing will work if you do not work on yourself first
I'm trying. That's also harder to arrange than you think it is.
So how do people do it?
>I'm trying
That's good
>So how do people do it?
They either have the emotional intelligence to gauge whether or not they can approach someone or they have zero inhibitions go at it randomly
What I'm grasping is you basically have to deal with the fact that you're making an aggressive intrusion into someone else's personal space, and do it anyway.
I think I fundamentally can't do that. It feels wrong.
>I think I fundamentally can't do that. It feels wrong.
That's because you're self projecting, it's a great offense to you but to most people and especially women that deal with it daily it's a mild annoyance, therefore not that intrusive
They definitely act like it's intrusive. They keep trying to make it illegal.
That's because women are more theatrical and emotional, they exaggerate things in their mind, you should never take them as seriously as you would take a man. It's no wonder cluster C personality types are majorly women while cluster A are majorly men.
Yes, especially since you're much older than her, she expects more domination and more experience than someone around her age
The idea that I'm somehow supposed to know exactly how much a person wants to be sexually harassed at any moment is too big of a hurdle for me to pass. Literally how do you know these things?
The issue is you think any interpersonal interaction or courting is supposed to be sexual harassment..
Most women don't like being treated like a sex object, you must fool them into thinking their personality is what is attractive to you.
I think literally walking up to another person and propositioning them for sex count as sexual harassment.
it's a normal interpersonal skill you learn from experience, like anything else, like being able to tell by body language, expressions etc whether somebody really likes you or just endures your company out of politeness or whatever. it can't really be explained because it's a bunch of subtle cues that differ from person to person and situation to situation. if you're autismal you will have trouble with it, otherwise it's just a question of experience.
So we arrive at "don't be autistic".
Asking a woman for coffee is hardly sexual harassment, one might pretend it is but that's because she's repulsed by scenarios she's made up in her mind, if you're being extremely creepy she will 100% ask another man to intervene, majority of the time she'd just reject you, wherein the appropriate response is simply accepting it and moving on. Most of the time, people ignoring said rejection tend to be the ones being accused of sexual harassment, if you just accept it then you're fine.
>Literally how do you know these things?
Most people aren't as individual as they think they are, they snugly fit into archetypes that has their life down to a T, psychology might be a soft science but it's still a science.
Don't worry about it, if you're still interacting then she's not put off by it, start by asking what she likes and move on from there, if you want to hide your inexperience you can pretend that you were considered too forward by a previous partner
>Asking a woman for coffee is hardly sexual harassment
I would only be doing it if I wanted to frick them, and we both immediately know that that is the case.
There's wanting to frick them and wanting to build a relationship with them, they are not the same thing and they are perceived differently, how you go about it is how it'll be perceived
>and wanting to build a relationship with them
So I can frick them, yeah.
I mean, if they're interested in playing Smash Bros with me, I'd be into that too, but they never are.
>So I can frick them
*make love to them
One thing is casual sex and a completely different thing passionate sex
>I mean, if they're interested in playing Smash Bros with me
The average Stacy you'd meet at the club, most likely no, unless you nudge her into it, but the average nerdy chick then most likely. End all be all you can get any woman to watch a Goose flick with you, so that should be a starting point.
>hello, m'lady, might I make love to you?
Where am I gonna find a nerdy chick, apart from on Twitch, where they have a hundred men already competing for their attention?
I talk to those women a lot, because I'm that lonely, but they don't need someone like me as anything more than an occasional viewer. They're not going to reach out to me and try to know me in any real sense.
NEVER compete for a woman, it's gross. Get yourself a /cgl/ gf. Those women are crazyyyyy sexual. Dated one for 3 years.
>Get yourself a /cgl/ gf.
How am I supposed to do that?
The fact that you think interacting with some female streamer online is anything like real socializing is insane. Any female that broadcasts herself online is already getting run through like Sherman went through Georgia. I promise you they were taking miles of Chad dick on Tinder before they escalated to streaming to vet their suitors and supplement their Chad-dick live-laugh-love flings with simp attention. You're literally there to help her balance her emotional states during the inevitable post-date slump.
Gen-Z is utterly fricked.
I know it's not "real". I'm not stupid. This is what I have available though.
I've tried talking to randos from /soc/, but any one on one conversation just seems to end in ghosting after I realise I have nothing to say to them, and they realise they don't like me.
>she expects more domination and more experience than someone around her age
Fuuuuuck me, i hope i didn't frick it up due to such a dumb shit. I don't even wanna think about how it's gonna be for sex.
>So how do people do it?
They accept the fact that they might end up looking creepy/cringy and still go through it because their monkey reproduction brain is stronger than the fear of the cringe. High inhibition neurotic autists like us have it the other way around where the fear of cringe is way stronger than the need to insert your penis into a vegana, so nothing ever happens.
>when it's acceptable to approach someone
It's never acceptable.
With a Glock aimed to her head
Will Smith & Wesson do?
Just be yourself, works for me every time.
just b urself
same, but i'm also a 400+lb death feeder with no life or job experiences. i have severe ptsd from a bad home life and my life is a complete pit
you don't
it's over
say "im that gorilla dick homie i make dyke pussy wet"
my milf neighbor likes me but her husband is always around
>How could she tell?
He wasn't pulling her pigtails. She was pulling his. If a girl teases you in means she likes you, or at least you've got an "in". When she busted his balls his was uptight and annoyed and took it all too seriously, suggesting he didn't know how to play with a girl and maintain his frame psychologically. Contrast this with even the Halfhand who sort of toyed with her a little bit.
i dont understand why anons get so worked up over this image, it doesnt come across as an insult. but then again i stopped watching immediatly after fat feast king guy died so maybe im wrong
>it doesnt come across as an insult
When do women ever bring up a man's sexual history (or lack thereof) in good faith?
it's not insulting, it just means you're suddenly exposed in a way you didn't even realize you were which immediately triggers the defense mechanisms in everyone who's even mildly insecure about themselves
Women just assume they know everything. They're the Dunning Kreuger of genders.
I hated this character.
I was SO happy when the kid whose parents she killed was able to kill her.
Jon didn't like her either. She basically forced her ugly ass on him and its considered romantic.
He liked her in the books at least. Jon thinks Ygritte a lot after her death.
She had to worm her way into his heart first. Even then his guilt revolves around whether or not he was the one who killed her with that arrow. Jon ultimately fricks up in ADWD because of yigrette
she was probably completely unshaven
EUYUCK
doesn't regularly clean
people don't understand how smelly and repulsive an unclean pussy is
good enough for my cavemen ancestors, good enough for me
fr ong doe
She looks SO much like my Scottish friend Katie it's crazy
could i have a pic of katies toes???
*The fact that you keep problematicizing and misinterpreting advice suggests you have depression and possibly ADHD.
I almost certainly have undiagnosed ADHD, and I think I've been depressed most of my life.
So what? Knowing that doesn't really get you anywhere. It's like saying to someone with no legs, "you have no legs". Yeah, man. I noticed.
As a Wildling, Ygritte almost certainly has a very hairy pussy
Hairy and stinky
I'm 24 years old and a virgin.
Escorts are cheaper than you think, even really high end ones, and most will legitimately take pity on you if you tell them you're a virgin. You might as well get over the hump. Sex is nice, but it's unironically really overrated, but you can't understand that and stop obsessing until you've experienced first hand
It's not about the sex, and that's what non-virgins fail to understand. It's about feeling unwanted. I don't want to frick a prozzie, I want a girl to genuinely want to frick me like it happens to 99% of people, but that ship's sailed, hasn't it?
Yes, it has. At least you can have the physical experience, and if she's good you might even believe it for a second. Look for GFE. But I feel you brother. I've never been loved by anyone, and my life is mostly just passing the time until I die. But even in this I can find contentment. It unironically gets easier, or you just become enured to it all.
>I want a girl to genuinely want to frick me like it happens to 99% of people
We "chose" democracy and "prosperity" and "safety" and that means an inevitable decline that starts to look like pre-civilization in a lot of weird ways, such as the vast majority of men never having sex. This is intentional, as civil unrest is necessary to justify putting society on lockdown awaiting the graduate but deliberate reduction of population, starting with the middle classes and ending with the lower classes.
Do not fear, though. Everything is under control. And what you are experiencing is only the appearance of pre-civilizational barbarism, misery, and despair. For the ruling class, their lives will be anything but ugly, brutish, and short.
Oh, sod off. Ugly c**ts have sex all the time. Literally everyone I know has no matter how smelly or moronic because they lucked into it.
It's not some grand conspiracy. I'm just salty I never got the chance.
sod off? Maybe if you didn't communicate like a moron you would get laid more.
do you actually put yourself out there? I don't get much either, but I don't put myself in any situations that present the chance, 0 interactions with suitable females in the past year
What are those situations? Because clearly just "going out" isn't enough, and we've been over that.
If there's some pre-requisite that everyone is supposed to have a sizable friend group first, then how do they get that?
The funniest thing is that I do. I go out with my friends to clubs. I went to vacations at touristy places.I do everything to 'put myself out there'
But it just doesn't happen. I can't just walk up to some chick and go 'hi' I just can't. I've never seen anyone try it. I've never heard anyone trying it. It just feels like those things you see in the movies. Distant and fake.
>ut it just doesn't happen. I can't just walk up to some chick and go 'hi' I just can't. I've never seen anyone try it. I've never heard anyone trying it. It just feels like those things you see in the movies. Distant and fake.
I know that feel. I went to countless clubs, parties, concerts with my friends etc and same exact thing. Never even have I seen any of them do any such thing. And yet they all somehow have gfs/wives now while I'm still a kissless virgin lol
Most of the time, those guys got them through friend groups where the ice was already broken, introductions were made and connections were built up. It helps that many couples love playing matchmaker with their own friend groups something that I am guilty of myself.
, m'lady, might I make love to you?
I didn't imply that and you know it. Wanting sex and wanting companionship are two separate things that both men and women understand, your approach dictates what the implication is.
Like
said, there's libraries, conventions, game stores, discords what have you, if Chris-chan managed to strike up a friendship with Megan at The Game Place, then you can meet a woman at one such place yourself.
Try not to let your autism get in the way though, most women are surface level plebs and that includes nerdy ones, expect shit takes and shit taste, do not let it affect you.
Both
Are good points, it wasn't that bad, just make sure you limit such prudishness, you're in your 30s you're not expected to act like that, slip a little tongue, caress her sides a little and slowly climb up, if she's into it, you'll grab tiddy and if she starts grabbing your wiener then you're most likely free to start grabbing c**t
None of my local libraries or game stores are social spaces. They're businesses run by closed off and unfriendly people. I don't know what world you're living in, but it isn't mine.
Stop wallowing in self pity and defeatism, if that way is unavailable then there are other ways to go about it, outdoor activities, arts & crafts, dance classes, volunteering
The problem isn't really the options or lack thereof, it's your attitude towards your goals.
Work on yourself first then worry about sex, because even if you magically end up in a relationship, your unsolved issues will catch up to you, screw up your relationship and it'll end up being a bigger regret than not doing anything.
Women are definitely nerdy when it comes to things that validate them, either being lite spiritualism, occulitism, astrology, teen entertainment and games like the sims and stuff like that, when she crosses over to more masculine hobbies then yes, your argument applies, even with music tastes, if it's not on the top 100 then it's most likely taught by a male figure in her life
>work on yourself
I would, but even that's harder to do than you think it is.
When you just went wrong at some level of development and don't understand how to interact socially with the rest of society, how do you self-improve from that?
I've tried to get professional help, and it kind of just seems like there is nowhere to go. You get "councillors" who basically exist to comfort grieving widows, or angsty teenagers who got themselves on drugs, but for people who just never "got in" with society, there doesn't really seem to be anything.
>how do you self-improve from that?
nta but what fixed me was getting a job and being forced to interact with people on a daily basis, social skills are exactly that a "skill" that needs to be practiced and honed.
I don't really know how to get a job, and I don't think I would be able to psychologically cope with that kind of a shock to my routine.
>I don't really know how to get a job,
go onto indeed.com, search your area and then when you find something you like hit, its just like making a new vidya account.
>I don't think I would be able to psychologically cope with that kind of a shock to my routine.
here is going to be the biggest kicker you quite literally need to fricking get over it because the longer you are stuck in your "routine" the harder it will be to break it and if you refuse to make any effort to break it you might as well give up now because nothing is ever going to fall into your lap. "but X" buddy you can think of a million excuses to not doing something you can think of a million stressors you can have all sorts of shit thats wrong with your brain but those are your struggles you need to work through them and if you are unwilling to make the effort you might as well be low functioning.
>its just like making a new vidya account.
You say that like it's an easy thing, but more than once I have averted doing something I wanted to do, just because it would have involved making an account.
>just change
I understand the sentiment, but I'm not going to, or I would have done it by now.
I fundamentally cannot walk out of my house and attend a job interview.
I even agreed to to some voluntary work once, walked all of the way to the thing, and then turned around and went home, and never contacted those people again. I wanted to do it, and my body wouldn't let me.
so just kys if you want to keep being a mentally weak homosexual that just complain about his situation.
And here i thought my i was bad
Would you believe, I can't kill myself either?
yes i would believe you because it takes courage to do it actually
actually it's just worse when they actually hit on random chick to show you how it's done since they dont care and get successful, always feel like something is wrong with me
I can't just choose to have courage.
this is what happens when you are raised to worship women
yes you can it's called vodka, drink some before trying something you couldnt before and see how it goes
I most outrageous thing I've ever done while drunk is be moderately rude to people. I'm not about to just reinvent my life, no matter how drunk I get. I have tried that option.
>don’t understand how to interact socially
>how do you self-improve
It really is you just have to do it. It does sound like you need to keep looking for actual help for something like OCD, but there’s no magic secret for the “be more normal part”. You do the shitty scary stuff until it’s marginally less shitty and scary and you can at least pretend it’s not.
The most important thing is you do SOMETHING. If you’re going to deflect every suggestion with “I can’t” then you won’t change. Just pick anything, one at a time, and change it until it’s not weird anymore. Different clothes, hygiene, interacting with people in businesses without prejudging them, change to routine, literally anything.
>Women are definitely nerdy when it comes to things that validate them, either being lite spiritualism, occulitism, astrology, teen entertainment and games like the sims and stuff like that,
I suppose that's true if you accept the broad, current definition of "nerd" which suggests anyone can be nerdy about anything, thus making girls who are only into girlie things "girl nerds". But even a girl who is a legit "sci-fi nerd" is going to be of little value as a ready-made partner if all she's into is mary sue fanfic. I want her to be specifically supportive of my interests and helpful or at least malleable to my life with them. I don't want her bringing her baggage, even if it's posing as "these are my legit nerd interests". It almost never is.
>I want her to be specifically supportive of my interests and helpful or at least malleable to my life with them
If she's supportive of you then she'll be pliable towards your interests, that's the case with most women. I'm pretty sure if Henry Cavill asked his gf to paint minis with him, then she'd do it.
>I don't want her bringing her baggage
You can't escape that, entire cosmogonies were built around the fact that women are a burden, you won't find the exception.
>entire cosmogonies were built around the fact that women are a burden, you won't find the exception.
I don't want her bringing her baggage at the expense of my work and interests, which is the context of what I posted and an inevitable issue if a girl is out waving her nerd tail plumage to attract a replacement for her oneitis. I'm not naive to women's nature going back to The Garden. A certain amount of overhead is to be expected as is a degree of compromise in becoming a couple.
>and an inevitable issue if a girl is out waving her nerd tail plumage to attract a replacement for her oneitis
That's why you generally avoid the women that act and say they're like "one of the guys" that type of "nerdy" woman tends to be the type you described
>most women are surface level plebs and that includes nerdy ones, expect shit takes and shit taste, do not let it affect you.
It's deeper than that. Women have no opinions. They are empty. They only have groups and/or men which pour their opinions into the empty female vessel. Wanna get more red/black -pilled on women? That nerdy girl you think is so cool and relateable and accessible is just channeling an older brother at best but most likely an ex-boyfriend who she bonded with and is looking to summon a replacement for like some post ww2 pacific island savage doing a dance to summon "cargo"
Are you literally me, anon?
It's just so infuriating because they all have those stories about how they lucked into their gfs, being introduced by friends or their fricking parents yet they all call me a pussy for not doing something they'd never in a million years do, like hit on a random chick.
just put yourself out there bro.
There are people who unirnically believe this
don't break the illusion
>Escorts
Love as you perceive it is an invention of movies. It's no more real than a CSI hacking scene
For me, love is a deep respect and a desire to be intertwined fates.
The only way you'll have it is to turn gay, women don't think in those terms.
>a desire to be intertwined fates
yes, but it's not 'respect' like you have for authority. it's boundless affection almost sacrificial because you wish to combine your life with theirs
with it should come a strength of faith, irrational (not in the negative sense) belief in something higher, something inherently good
why is he looking at me like that, bros? was it something I said?
>Escorts are cheaper than you think, even really high end ones, and most will legitimately take pity on you if you tell them you're a virgin
As always with women, only if you're handsome
i'm so glad that woman raped the virginity out of me, that really helped with self confidence.
Yeah well, you shouldnt have been wearing those sexy tight jeans, and sonichu hoodie
>male virginity
Anyone who even acknowledges this as a concept does not deserve to have sex
i mean at this point in the story he's supposed to be about 14 and he's part of an army of non-sex havers and he's clearly being shy/prudish in front of this very attractive woman she didn't know for sure but was trying to wind him up and succeeded
Since this is the incel thread, I'm gonna ask a girl out next time I see her. I've been coached by friends on how to do it already
I don't have any real experience at 25 cause I've only been with a guy before so we'll see how it goes, wish me luck Cinemaphile
>I've been coached by friends on how to do it already
Tell me your secrets, anon
>t. turning 25 very soon
So uh, from what I've been told, the act itself doesn't matter much because the girl will likely pick her answer based on how you look anyways.
So tldr, just act too nervous, for myself I'll just walk up to her, ask her name, say I've been checking her out and then ask for her whatsapp
based
this will score eventually and you'll finally realize sex isn't something you require
Because he didn't immediately frick her, or shut her up when she kept being a c**t. She could tell he doesn't know how to handle her.
>tfw no fiery redhead to take my virginity
In the short term it's not so easy to immediately get if someone is a virgin or not unless you're a totally dysfunctional disaster who can barely exist in the real world, but in the mid-long term absolutely you can be sure that everyone who you interact with even just semi regularly knows it.
It's mostly subconscious too, people talk about relationships fairly regularly and if you never share anything at all people just sort of get that you first don't want to talk about it, and then why you don't talk about it.
And they almost feel more embarrassed to bring it up to you then you are, you can notice that those people/coworkers stop talking about relationships and sex related things around you altogether because of it.
So in short yes people who know you know, but if they are not family or someone close they don't want to open that can of worms and deal with it around you.
It all comes up fairly quickly though, you can't hide such gigantic inexperience for long.
I am 29 years old and I never even kissed a girl
I'm 31 yo and last saturday i just had my first kiss. I bet she (24) knew.
I don't think i did too bad but the fricking b***h even tried to use her tongue. Is that normal on a first kiss?
>I'm 31 yo and last saturday i just had my first kiss
Congrats, how did you do it? Or more precisely, how did you get in the situation for that to finally happen?
We met on bumble 2 months go and started dating after the first week.
And i dunno, i decided to be very straight forward about.
>drop her at her mom's house
>saying goodbye while sitting on my car
>she says we should talk about us next time with cheeky smile
>i say we should do it right now instead
>i ask her if we'll be a couple or i should run away already (we joke like that all the time)
>she gives me an even bigger smile and says "not unless we kiss first"
>she leans forward for it and i somehow manage to not spill the spaghetti
>i go for something just a bit over a peck
>we kissed that way 3 times and i felt her tongue touching my lips the last 2 times
>she says "i thought we were gonna kiss?"
>i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time"
>"oh ok, see you next week anon, let's talk more then"
I fricked up didn't i? We're going to the movies this friday but i don't even know what to do. I feel like just telling her straight that she should teach me if she wants to kiss that way, whatever.
>i say "oh come on, i don't kiss that way the first time"
Goddamn it, anon. That's hilarious, but don't you worry. Being silly can be part of the game.
Just give a her goddamn tongue kiss next time, my boy. If she decided to go out with you again, all is not lost. Probably. Just feel her vibes and you should be fine.
>Just give a her goddamn tongue kiss next time, my boy.
Dude, how the hell am i suppossed to do that without making it even more awkward? Let me remind you i'm a virgin (formerly kissless) that never had a gf before.
>Being silly can be part of the game.
Yeah that's the good thing about us, we have the same kind of humor. Frick it, hqil mary, i'll just tell her to teach me to tongue kiss and i'll teach her how to do taxes.
>Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s
You joke but i literally am.
>if she's into it, you'll grab tiddy and if she starts grabbing your wiener then you're most likely free to start grabbing c**t
Probably gonna sound like an incel but i have no interest in sex at the moment. I just don't wanna frickit up with her.
>I would try not to stay in your head about it. You overestimate how much women will care about this and the quality of their previous partners.
She's only had 1 bf before but they were together for 5 years (they broke up 2-3 years ago). She's definitely more experienced than me on all acounts, that's for sure.
I think it's gonna come down to the vibes i get from her the next time i see her. Frick it, if she's not the one it's fine, at least now i know i'm not a lost cause.
Thank you all for the advice.
>Probably gonna sound like an incel but i have no interest in sex at the moment. I just don't wanna frickit up with her.
anon you're gonna frick it up by not having sex even if she's a bawd enjoy yourself
Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s. I guess you should be the one leading the relationship not the younger girl. so definitely don't let her lead the way because it will fall apart very quickly. Just go head on first and learn as you fail.
Take in mind that I write this as a completely clueless kissless virgin lol
>Sounds like you're going through the awkward teenage phase in your 30s.
Not that anon but this literally destroyed my will to participate in civilized society.
I used to want to contribute to things being better, but now I just want to watch society degenerate and hopefully get to wreak violence on bandits and criminals as it gets worse
an awkward dating experience destroyed your will to participate in society?
I don't know what to tell you anon. maybe try again in a few million years when you've evolved in to a vertebrate.
bro if she's seeing you again she definitely want you.
Since you're lost and she want sex just ask her to ride you
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with telling her you’d never kissed someone before that. You don’t have to be all “you’ll have to teach me” unless you want to/you think she’s especially into it.
If you like her and plan to try to make it something long term it’s going to come up and lack of experience could be obvious anyways.
I would try not to stay in your head about it. You overestimate how much women will care about this and the quality of their previous partners. Most women have not been dating 10/10 gigachads that frick them for 2 hours while you were kissless kek
>I don’t think there’s anything wrong with telling her you’d never kissed someone before that
A 31 year old man should NEVER ever tell a girl that he never kissed before, what the frick are you smoking? It's like telling him to shoot himself in the foot for no reason.
Such a thing might pass for a young 20 year old, but a 31 year old man admitting to a younger girl that he never even kissed a girl is probably the biggest "ick!" red flag to women possible. For women it's like getting into a plane to see an older pilot, the plane takes off and then the pilot says that this is his first time flying any plane ever. Absolutely nothing good will come from that.
You started dating almost two months ago and only had first kiss now?
honestly I'm surprised she kept seeing him for two months if they didn't kiss
Believe it or not yes. We're both really introvert i guess.
I did but it never worked before because i made a shitty profile. I only started taking it seriously almost a year ago and gotten tons of matches (only actually met in person 3 of them though).
It's definitely worth it. You'll probably get disappointed and get your heart broken many times like i did, but i've learned a lot of shit i should've learned over the decades.
how did you improve your profile?
no dont worry about it enjoy it instead
Why didn't you try dating apps sooner?
And how long were you using them before you matched with her?
t. considering online dating
women can't tell, unless you do so. This is a tv show and the writers decided to push for the very common, and wrong, idea that women can sense a virgin.
They can't.
his wiener didnt stink like fresh fricked c**t juice
Turned 32 last month, after passing the 30 year old mark I've been having nonstop dreams about having a gf. Not even sexual for the most part, it's driving me insane, I really thought I was over this when I failed to get a girl in my teenage years. My brain is fricking with me bad.
God I love to frick this toa potato ginger Irish c**t
She's moronic. Hefricked Rosalyn
Am I an incel if I called the girl I was sexting a "fricking b***h"
Outside of the sexting.
no, you're an incel if you're involuntary celibate
if you were referring to "incel" how dumb c**ts online use it though, you just have to be male to qualify, so yes
but he fricked in wolfs in wolf form, he was a fricking furry
>incels think women can't tell
baka tbh senpai
can you tell if women are virgins just by looking at them? I thought so.
obviously it only works one way
Yes, it's called puberty.
Sex is a meme and so is masturbation. Waste of time and energy.
Marcus also had 6 kids because he loved his wife and he thought it was his duty to procreate
Marcus Aurelius got cucked by a gladiator, it should've been Kant on the right.
Being a coomer and having kids are very different things
>virginal anime-addicted sperg thinks he's like Marcus Aurelius
The "midwit" meme was the worst thing to happen to this site
Someone did a study and women can actually smell virgins
because in the books he was 15 years old
women can smell a virgin. they know, anon.
@188521084
What is this mental illness called?
Finklethink
>murders innocent villagers without remorse
>is Wildling wienersleeve
What the FRICK did Jon see in her?