I can answer that question. You see 99.9999999% of modern "journalists" are just freelance writers. They write an article, farm it out to distributors online, those articles are posted (anyone can do this btw), and they are paid like .0001 cents per view. Well to you and me making 19 cents for a days work isn't a very good deal, but to Mondogumbo Diginiropoopoopeepee from Bumfrick Egypt that 19 cents buys your family a weeks worth of dirt pies. Pretty much everything like this online is farmed out to third worlders now because they will work for slave wages.
some years ago, maybe as much as 10, all those pseudo-journalistic blogs started replacing all their staff with freakish minorities, the weirder name the better
they all have the same voice and the same opinion (only one allowed) on everything
I guess diversity matters
They need to make fewer movies and TV shows too. Before it felt like each kovie was a main event. Now there's so many Marvel projects the specialness has worn away.
there's probably dozens of people like that but from experience they ironically bring in a lot of bias because the only people that choose that career are girlboss women. it should be a job for autismos but they understandably have little interest in such work
What saved disney in 1980s was Whos Framing Roger Rabbit and The little mermaid, so I guess they should make noir stuff with cartoon breasts, and colorful animations for little girls. And the huge flop was an animation based on welsh shit, so ignore those frickers
>New Red Sonja is a 5’7” half-israelite half-Italian brunette mutt with a dye job and no breasts
Yeah I don’t understand how they keep fricking up so badly, like how hard is it to give the paying audience they want, instead of humourless DEI consultants?
Touchstone saved Disney in the 80s cause it gave them the ability to compete with arthouse films and set it up to get better talent into the studio in the 90s.
They already do this. And it probably kills more projects than it allows to go forward. A movie has to appeal to certain audience segments, meaning they think those segments will buy tickets. Like with nu-wars, they knew young men would show up already, so they tried to hit additional segments like girls and blacks and homos by adding ray and fin and Adam driver. They know little white girls will show up to the little mermaid, so they made her black to try to get little black girls to show up too and goose the numbers. If a movie just hits one demographic like white incels, it just doesn't get made anymore.
I mean, maybe, but we still all went to TFA, right? We've all seen the little girls cosplaying as rey. I'm not saying it's the smartest strategy for the long-term, but just saying "who is this for" like that'll solve the problem is moronic. They need to maximize the "who" it's for in order to make the most money. The solution is obviously to make smaller movies that need not appeal to such a broad audience in order to make it's money back. An anon suggested it up thread but was told to take his meds lol. He's right.
>I mean, maybe
its happened over and over again. a GREAT example is that halo series they made on the assumption that >halogays would watch anything >they could draw new audiences
the halogays weren't interested because of all the shit they did to try to "draw new audiences" and "the new audiences" weren't interested because they already knew they didn't like halo.
Star wars being out of the hands of a petulant moron restored some faith in the franchise, then disney wars peaked with that first movie and exponentially declined into what we have now, shows literally no one is watching.
>but just saying "who is this for" like that'll solve the problem is moronic. They need to maximize the "who" it's for in order to make the most money.
Girls aren't going to turn out en masse for action movies. Boys aren't going to turn out en masse for romcoms. Americans aren't going to turn out en masse for anti-American movies. Studios need just a bit of common sense. It boggles my mind that studios don't know this, but they clearly don't.
>The solution is obviously to make smaller movies that need not appeal to such a broad audience in order to make it's money back.
Well yeah smaller budgets = less risk.
Smaller budgets = can be open to new IP (as we have seen ALL IP has a shelf life). The more you use the IP, the quicker people tire of it.
>I'm not saying it's the smartest strategy for the long-term
It's not just that it's infeasible in the long-term, it's that it ultimately kills your brand in the long-term. There's a difference between making mediocre movies and making movies people actively hate. What they did with Star Wars wasn't simply to overexpose the brand, they made it toxic.
The basedhomosexuals allowed this to happen in the first place, you need to fire the men too. The replacements don't even need to be right wing dudes who post under a frog avatar on twitter, just people smart enough to understand how monumentally stupid a snow white movie with a brown snow white and no dwarves is
More Brothers Grimm, Hans Christian Andersen and Dickens, that's all they have to do.
>how monumentally stupid a snow white movie with a brown snow white and no dwarves is
the main problem is the lgtb push and the obsession to make the boys/ young male content (Star Wars, Mahvel) for fems too.
This. I'm tired of the "they included women so now it sucks" argument. You can make things that appeal to both. I know, because Disney USED TO DO EXACTLY THAT! Feel like I'm taking LSD here, you just need attractive actress and men who don't spend the whole runtime getting shit on for no reason!
Disney spent the last decade or two shitting on straight White men with the stated reason of appeasing coloreds, homosexuals, and holes; and when any White guy complained about not getting any of this representation, he was told to go watch all the old stuff. Well guess what, now we're doing that and you're getting no money because we already own the DVDs.
progressive institutions are run by sycophants, that's why they all end up promoting incompetent people and producing shit products. it's what happens when your culture runs on shame instead of guilt.
it's just that women also run on shame instead of guild, so the higher a proportion of women your institution has in leadership positions, the more progressive and thus incompetent and shitty it's going to be
and what will they do when the "woke" mob is rapping at their door screeching about "racism" for not having a brown snow white, what about the lawsuits, boycotts, walkouts and so on, you know they have something prepared for when media companies start rejecting them
To be fair some gay White men have good taste.
If I had to choose between a gay man choosing my wife’s clothes or a straight white modern woman, the gay man is the best choice. And a gay man can write or direct a great story without making it about himself.
Its deeper than even this now. I no longer trust the Disney brand around children. Im sure plenty of parents feel the same. And thats something you cant shake off with a good movie. Even a great movie. I dont want gay and troony bullshit shown to my children, full stop.
Theyve done irreparable harm to their brand at this point.
They need to only hire men but they have to do blood work first and only hire them if their testosterone levels are in the quadruple digits. Anything lower is unacceptable for creating kino.
it couldn't've. the pirmary factor here is fractionalization of the entertainment market. they had the choice between a slow creeping death or a fast death, they chose fast because blackrock will subsidize it. now they're praying someone will buy them and save them from the financial ruin they engineered for themselves.
market fractionalizaiton. is the reason they started in on "wokeshit." they had already lost the white entertainment market to other mediums and tried to pull in women, gays, and shitskins.
I think they're counting that the white male fans of their stuff are such corporate prostitutes that they will reliably buy whatever they're selling, which frees them to go after other markets.
Maybe more gay characters, raceswaps (only from white to Black though), interracial couples and injection of woke ideologies into Disney movies and shows will help!
I personally enjoy the complete disruption of an entire industry and downsizing of its significance as an audience moves towards more video games and serialized content.
But Netflix is an awful business to model yourself after.
>Insert gay/troon groomer shit in shows targeted towards children >vids leak of execs proudly bragging about this >get called out >double down on inserting gay/troon shit in shows targeted towards children
This is nothing new for disney. The difference is that when they were about to crash in 1980s youtubers werent telling you it's because "the black cauldron" was too israeli or troony or whatever
I’m bizarrely inoculated to poltards by a youth of my dad and his christschizo friends going off about how {Harry Potter, that 70s show, Frasier, whatever movie came out, video games, will and Grace, etc} were demonic harbingers of evil sodomy and idolatry or whatever.
Half the shit he complained about the current generation of morons hold up as being based and the good old days now.
It wouldn’t be possible to list all of the things he thought were evil homosexualy whatever
Like all of you morons it’s some form of schizophrenia where they can be watching something normal and something sets them off like a dog hearing fireworks
Insufferable animals
>be watching something normal and something sets them off like a dog hearing fireworks
The problem, is that you think gay shit is normal.
Probably because you're at least half a gay yourself.
You're more than likely just completely missing the subtext what youre watching. Some really wild shit is presented as normal in media in such an innocous way that can be easily missed if you don't stop and think about it.
>Half the shit he complained about the current generation of morons hold up as being based and the good old days now.
That's how conservative minds work: they want to return to their childhood, and its real or imagined better days. What that ultimately is is subjective to the particular conservative. It's not a political idealogy so much as a tantrum.
That isn't political, but proceeds from a similar impulse. Progressives lack the shame required to mask their childish or base interests. The same behavior in conservative circles is shamed, so it surfaces in different ways. That's why you can usually tell what sins a conservative is secretly commiting by what they denounce the loudest. I'm honestly concerned by how many in the alt-right bang on about pedophiles.
You're a grown man who lives with his mom. Glass houses.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You believe that because you want it to be true. Just like any religious impulse, or intense ideological indoctrination, your intellectual opponent must be imagined as ridiculous so you can feel good about laughing at him and dismiss his claims outright.
you got owned with facts and logic and tried to change the subject
7 months ago
Anonymous
I did not. He made an objection and I answered it. A general truism is that conservatives look to a golden age of the past they seek to return to, and progressives look to a golden age of the future that escapes the past they wish never to return to. It's not a change of subject, and adults buying pokemon cards doesnt refute my observation about conservatives.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Sure gay, now go play with your pokemon cards. Now it's ego can't handle it. It MUST reply.
The absolute fricking stupidity of believing that all change is automatically good and all preservation of tradition is automatically bad.
You don’t see conservatives raping, looting, committing arson, doing billions in damage and even murdering each other to prove how ‘(adjective) lives matter’ you absolute fricking moron.
It’s not society’s responsibility to change to suit you and your red-banner-waving, prog-brainwashing, unemployable, drug-addicted, useless-degree-holding, bike-lock-assaulting, skateboard-swinging wastes of skin and hair.
You want to talk about tantrums, progressives have been shidding farting and screaming like toddlers since 2016 and there’s no apparent end in sight, no matter how much you freaks are pandered to. Frick you.
>You don’t see conservatives raping, looting, committing arson, doing billions in damage and even murdering each other to prove how ‘(adjective) lives matter’ you absolute fricking moron.
Yes you do see this actually, it's called Israel. Look it up.
>You have no idea what I am politically
Maybe not but I’m confident you’re overweight, underemployed, rent your home instead of owning it, and blame ‘conservatives’ for your absolute personal failure.
Here’s a cold hard truth, it’s you who has failed society, not the other way around.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Jesus Christ, you're such a b***h. Conservatives don't hold any power, they're stooges for bigger and more domineering social forces. That's why they've been known as "cuckservatives" for years. All a Cuckservative knows is failure, and all they can do impotently b***h and complain about imaginary people "destroying 'merica!".
God I hate /misc/tourists.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>REEEEEEE /misc/, /misc/, the person I'm discussing politics with is /misc/ because he doesn't share my views given to me by reddit and I'm losing...
7 months ago
Anonymous
No loser, I'm not even the guy you're originally arguing with. Conservatives are fricking gay. They don't get pussy, they stick up for Israel and they have no principles. I'm just stating the facts. In a just world you would still be on r/theDonald. Plenty of normal people don't like woke shit but aren't politically conservatives because they know it's fricking gay.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Good luck with the dissacociative identy disorder my unemployed, trans friend.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>muh trans! You must be trans! You must be a loser! I need to believe this to keep my sanit-ACK
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Hyper-fixated on gay shit and projecting your own insecurities. This is what conservatism is.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Being conservative >= gay
Can you put your fricking crack pipe down and stop embarrassing us, you're a fricking moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
Wait until you see what’s coming next
7 months ago
Anonymous
>They don't get pussy, they stick up for Israel and they have no principles
Stereotypes are the language of ignorance, homosexual.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Stereotypes are also based on observable patterns.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Hold up.
So a serotype conservative white man.
Gay?
7 months ago
Anonymous
stereotypes are based on confirmation bias.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>stereotypes are based on confirmation bias.
Are you fricking high.
A stereotype BY IT'S VERY DEFINITION is
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.
You understand that is not "conformation bias" If it WASNT a stereotype then why would it be so ? would it BE a stereotype if it DIDNT adhere to the RULE and MEANS of BEING ONE
is that confirmation bias? that it is WHAT IT FRICKING IS.
Read some more books, you're a fricking child.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>you're a fricking child.
says the guy who start screaming because of one innocuous sentence.
7 months ago
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>Screaming
Articulating and properly defending your position is not childish nor is having the courage and wherewithal to do so, that's what adults do.
7 months ago
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>Screaming
yeah, that's what caps-lock means >courage
we're on an anonymous image board
7 months ago
Anonymous
You feel that way.
That's fine, actually CAPITALIZING words is to ACCENTUATE them. >We're on an anonymous image board
And yet your best argument is ....uhh big words scary I don't understand why it's LOUD.
What are you fricking saying why are you saying it and how does it refute anything I said
7 months ago
Anonymous
Seriously what is even happening here I genuinely get your frustration, by the fricking definition of liberal they are meant to be open minded accepting and understanding.
But a conflicting viewpoint comes along and the end up screaming about the boogeyman.
I would call myself liberal but if I have to stand beside that fricking clown then put the maga hat on my fricking head, we can't even talk about causality without the boogeyman coming out to get them.
WTF
7 months ago
Anonymous
I claimed to be socially liberal for years but these insufferable leftist homosexuals wouldn’t let it go.
Eventually this shit is going to blow up in their faces.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You started this by screeching about conservatives, moron.
Answer me this to get this shit back on topic- why do YOU think Disney’s recent slate has resulted in flop after flop?
>I may have laid my thoughts and opinions bare but I didn't outright state what talking head I recieve my thoughts from so I can't be held responsible for my words...
Everyone in this thread, notice how this type of shill never actually denies those charges. They only whine and weasel and say you can't prove it, as if they are on a debate stage hoping some moderator is going to save them by forcing anons to play along with their lies.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, they think if they are vague and never give any opinions themselves, they are safe from counter-arguments, not realizing the shit they are defending or attacking reveals their affiliation anyway
7 months ago
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Yeah and it's fricking embarrassing, me having to stop these fricking morons make my entire agenda is exhausting, Love prosperity freedom that's what I fricking believe in acceptance and love as gay as that shit sounds that's what I want for everyone, but we have THESE fricking mouth breathing droids making me look bad because of how moronic they are, I hate it so much.
I claimed to be socially liberal for years but these insufferable leftist homosexuals wouldn’t let it go.
Eventually this shit is going to blow up in their faces.
>Eventually this shit is going to blow up in their faces.
Oh it fricking will, because eventually they are gonna be stood on their moron hill wondering why no one else is with them and it's pretty fricking simple IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE moronic.
Like frick sake, we have equal rights we won wtf is happening now? WHY
it's about protecting the fundamental building blocks of civilization carefully crafted by millennia of trial and error from being torn down by a generation of narcissistic morons that think they know better
The Black Cauldron was decent, it just wasn't quite what the plebs were expecting at the time. If it came out now we'd say it was the best thing Disney had made in years
It was the movie that Tolkien had the foresight to avoid. Disney has a formula, the formula doesn't work with many stories. DC manages to be way too scary for little kids and way too silly for everyone else at the same time. The books are good, Disney's take on the books was doomed to failure. And a random pretty redhead because thank you for reminding me Labour DC.
They've been happy enough to call anyone who doesn't watch their movies bigots and racists and homophobes. They should be thrilled that less people are watching their films, no awful people get to enjoy their wonderful work.
My wife put on that new Disney Goosebumps show and it is just a bunch of 25-30 year olds pretending to be high schoolers and there's this huge homosexual weirdo who might be trans and is either a 20 year old ftm or a 30 year old mtf in it that gets far too much screen time. It was disturbing.
>hire a female to male troony to play a boy character >27 and looks like she's in her 40s and hitting the wall in real time >said character dresses more fabulously than any flaming homosexual you had in your highschool growing up >have to completely change the cuckoo clock of doom plot to avoid de-aging the character and either being forced to use a young girl actress or a real boy actress
Now here's the real kicker >makes the female to male troony the gay character
Shits feels like a comedy goldmine where the show creator or writers were forced to include a troony so they're making it as insane as possible
>25-30 year olds pretending to be high schoolers
They do this because actual minors have way more labor restrictions on sets and aren't allowed to work nearly as many hours. Still weird how they always make fricking 30-year-olds play 15-year-olds though.
>25-30 year olds pretending to be high schoolers
That's normal, Skins is probably the only show where you had actual teens playing high schoolers >huge homosexual weirdo who might be trans and is either a 20 year old ftm
Correct, ftm with zipperbreasts
Jews led the Disney renaissance in the 80's and 90's. Those are legit good movies even if some of the globohomosexual propaganda was starting to filter in. There's something different today. I think it's women in all of their committees and decision roles being idiots.
The real answer? Stop hiring LGBT and women. While there are a few amazing creators in that field of view, 99% of them suck fricking ass so much, and only got to where they are by nepotism, by esg or by knowing some other terribly untalented person in the industry that vouched for them.
Comics have been hiring troons and women because it fills a quota, not because of how talented they are. Look at the writing in the newest spiderman game, and you'll see what I mean.
Public beheading of kennedy, iger, filioni and all millennial writers they have ever hired streamed in 4k for everyone to watch on prime hours on Friday evening
didnt they used to have teams and studios that were responsible for coming up with and realizing good ideas for movies?
Whatever happened to those? I wonder when was the last time where someone at disney had a real creative meeting and not just one where they discussed how to "tweak" things and make it appeal to this and that audience.
Go back in time a prevent “The Last Jedi” from being released. That’s the movie that opened the floodgates and forever changed the relationship between the fandom and the studios. Sure, Disney carried forward ok for the next few years with Marvel, but TLJ was the moment that Disney first cracked open, and now the cracks are so massive and ubiquitous that the entire brand is about to collapse
gamergate is what taught studios they had complete control over critics and they could spin a narrative that the audience is at fault for not liking every movie
But that option failed with TLJ. The corporate media pushed the narrative that dissent on that film was the result of “Russian Trolls” ….which obviously wasn’t true.
>studios they had complete control over critics and they could spin a narrative
TLJ was hated against the narrative, Joker was loved against the narrative. They got too wienery and they have no power now. People are siding with fricking Palestine on this war for fricks sake, that's how weak they are now
>The Force Awakens is where it started going wrong. Why do people pretend it isn't just as shit as TLJ or even worse?
Agreed. TLJ was shit but Rian at least ATTEMPTED something innovative. He failed but TFA was like AI wrote the movie, then AI made edits to said movie.
>TLJ was shit but Rian at least ATTEMPTED something innovative
This kind of apologetics for TLJ is just stupefying to see. TLJ is an atrocious film. It's not just a bad Star Wars movie, it's an abysmally written movie, period. It's full of gaping plot holes and inconsistencies from scene to scene. We literally have a scene where one character kills herself to stop another character from killing himself and telling him that it's important to live rather than die, and then immediately dying as a result of her doing exactly what she stopped him from doing. It's mind bogglingly stupid and treated like some epic emotional moment. And this is just one of several follies in the script. The inconsequential side plot that eats up a third of the film. Betrayal by a character we met 20 minutes ago being treated as some kind of major twist. A slow speed space chase that characters can leave from whenever they want, but don't. And many more besides. I can write thousands of words on how badly written this film is before I even touch what it did to Star Wars and its characters, which is just the shit frosting on the turd cake.
I agree in that truly terrible movies are more interesting to critique than bland retreads of older films. TFA does have its own idiotic plot holes, but on the whole its primary sin is a lack of imagination.
>The Force Awakens is where it started going wrong. Why do people pretend it isn't just as shit as TLJ or even worse?
Agreed. TLJ was shit but Rian at least ATTEMPTED something innovative. He failed but TFA was like AI wrote the movie, then AI made edits to said movie.
TFA was always going to be defined by what came after it. It's a thoughtless, shameless, embarassingly safe ANH rip-off, but a lot of people accepted it as a necessary evil to get the films up and running again. Rian looked at TFA and thought "Disney is copying the OT? in that case, I'm gonna subvert expectations, hee hee" and derailed every single plot point TFA set up while setting nothing up for the next film. Of course, it was the right decision to deviate from the OT's storyline, but TLJ botched it and triggered humiliating levels of course correction (sigh, sheev is back).
I think it's fair to describe TLJ as the best movie of the trio, or at the very least the one most worthy of discussion. But that's not an achievement. The sequel trilogy as a whole makes for a much better discussion - why did Disney take one of the biggest film IPs in history and start a trilogy without any plan of which direction to take it in?
I think the answer is simply "Star Wars sells, we just spent a fortune on it, everyone just pumping out movies, tv shows and toys and lets make some money go go go". It was always a product that sold itself to them, they didn't see the need to plan anything out. Hell, they probably think planning gets in the way of "Adjusting to market demand". If they plan ahead they can't adjust to what will sell most or some other ridiculous reason.
JJ is moronic for making a remake and marketing it as a sequel. Rian is moronic for prematurely ending every plot thread that JJ set up for him. Neither of these films are good and both of them deserve ridicule for what they did.
>why did Disney take one of the biggest film IPs in history and start a trilogy without any plan of which direction to take it in?
It's what explains a lot of human behavior, including recent history, actions by political and social leaders,etc...
Incompetence and stupidity.
There is no grand plan, no 4d chess to purposely kill SW or release bad movies. They're just dumb and they make bad decisions.
>why did Disney take one of the biggest film IPs in history and start a trilogy without any plan of which direction to take it in?
If you've ever been in a room full of "creative consultants" or marketing people, then you fully understand that there was no plan.
What audiences are crying out for in entertainment are people with creative visions that can tell a story, and the sad reality is that these types of directors are marginalised now because academia has deliberately pushed back against auteur theory for the better part of 30 years. Movies are merely studio productions, they are not led by people with a creative direction. When Disney hires a competent director, it's almost the same effect as casting a famous star, they want a name and that's it.
TFA played it safe and took no chances, so as a result it wasn’t a very good movie.
But at least JJ’s “mystery box” set something up with potential. It offered us mysteries and questions and left me wanting to see where things went.
But then, either they had no plan for the skeleton of the trilogy, or Rian Johnson completely threw out that plan to make a movie that shit on the audience’s curiosity.
Rey is nobody, Snoke is nobody and he’s dead, Luke had no secret plan and has become a nobody and is dead. Poe is an butthole now for no reason, Finn and Hux are both bad jokes. Rose was a complete waste of time, I feel bad for her actress.
All of the amazing theories fans had, all of the potential, it was just thrown out and the answer to all of it was “nothing.” Every Chekhov’s gun left unfired, and many of them thrown into the fire.
I had bad feelings when I found out the three films would have three directors. It told me they didn’t know where they were going, and the disaster of TLJ proves that.
So no, TFA wasn’t a good film, but it might have set us up for something great if only the people who wrote episode 8 knew frick all about Star Wars.
You have it so backwards. There was zero potential in the shitty mystery boxes, and Rian Johnson actually set up for something new and interesting in the way that he burned all that shit down. Any answer to any of those mystery boxes would have sucked. Who was Snoke? Who the frick cares? He sucked. The only interesting thing going on was the chemistry between Rey and Kylo and the fact that they seemed to have more in common with each other than they did with these ancient roles they were expected to fall into.
Admittedly the movie wasn't great and the setup was rough, but I had actual optimism at the end of that movie. Unfortunately they would have needed a little originality to make it work, and JJ is completely incapable of that.
Quit making every movie about identity politics and shit you Disneyfricking idiots. People are saying they hate it and you keep cranking out more of it hoping it will go differently
Ironically, it was probably that whole Princess shtick that laid the groundwork for their collapse.
They turned the Disney brand into something that only attracts chicks and gays to work for them, then the chicks and gays push to make more content for chicks and gays and the whole company purity spiralled into gayhag gay disco oblivion.
They're not for black audiences. They're for the white ones that want to feel good about liking movies with black actors. Their test data is flawed and thinks there are more people who will pay for this than wont.
When it comes to Star Wars they should hire the most wisest sages, the creme de la crop of Star Wars nerds and let them write what fans want. At least for a test phase. It can't get worse than Rey and frens
Probably true kek. Their parents and grandparents were masters of sneaking globohomosexual into an otherwise enjoyable and entertaining work, this generation just starts with the globohomo, announces it, and then forgets to make it enjoyable.
All he had to do was make a some White Princess movies every few years and the company would be golden. Make as many LGBT-BLM movies you want, but make sure you make a White Princess movie for the toy market. Easy.
But they were too up their own ass and obsessed with pandering to Twitter and Larry Fink, that they refused to do so.
bob iger is going to go down as the man who killed disney. if he had just retired and stayed away nobody would have pointed the finger at him. now that he is back not only are people blaming him for the current flops disney is pumping out, they are looking back at all his billion dollar acquisitions he made and starting to see they were a mistake.
he bought pixar, pixar makes nothing but garbage now. he bought star wars, the franchise went from the biggest cash cow in the world, even during the prequels era where public reception was bad, to being unable to sell movies or toys. he bought fox just to get the marvel ips they had and everyone cheered, but now the mcu is dying and they can't get an ff movie out and they have to respect the contracts of old x-men actors and can't recast for a few more years.
every poor decision iger made could have been passed along to chapik if iger had let it, but instead he let chapik take the fall too quickly and is trying to right a ship that is currently filling with water. disney's biggest struggle right now is they lack a significant war chest to fall back on in hard times because iger pissed away all the money they had in the bank.
>pixar makes nothing but garbage now
This is the problem at heart..
Why did Pixar become trash? Pixar had a really good track record pre-Disney; and as I understand it they function semi-independent, where Disney is just the parent company that is doing laissez faire parenting.
You have two studios that both hit the same market of family content, and they more or less independently of each other begins to produce crap around the same time.
John Lasseter being split between Pixar and Disney Animation Studios has a lot to do with that, I think. Not that I think he's some demi-god, but he had a vision and told people no, then he got canned. Neither studio has a strong lead to guide them to where they should go, so with nobody wanting to step on toes a lot more is permitted and goes unchallenged. Combine that with the hot metoo/PC climate that was running rampant for over a decade and you have a lot of people keeping their heads down and doing what's safe to keep their jobs.
lmao didn't they fire the main guy who was responsible for all their good movie over some made up 'me too' bullshit where he hugged some homosexual and the homosexual didn't like being hugged by a fat guy?
Disney started to dictate to Pixar what they had to make and how they had to make it.
It’s like getting Joel Robuchon to cater for your party then forcing him to make jell-o salads and tater tot casserole when your guests are expecting soufflés and foie gras.
>surprising box office failures >surprising
Hey, I'll do his job for half the price, Disney. I'll come in on day one and let you know which projects are complete shit with zero effort and 100% accuracy.
I would say a good start would be to go from their current one $300 million/movie method to a 30 $10 million/movie model. Or something like that. They can be more specific with their audiences and with the writing/ production side.
Hispanics can take their family to the cinema and pay for 37 tickets, or wait until it hits streaming and just pack those 37 people into one room and watch it for $15.
Yeah no shit they loved it.
>Ahaha, you see the wienered eyebrow! CLassic! It's an expression that says "hey look at me! I'm up to no good! Maybe a little mischief is on the cards in this feature film?" Ohohohoho this is gonna be gangbusters!
I've been under the assumption that they're doing this shit knowing full well it's potential box office poison and are just too committed to the ideology to care. If they're genuinely shocked by the backlash then it's even worse than I thought. They could stop being deliberately contrarian any time they wanted to but if this recent batch of films is unironically their best effort then they're just fricking doomed
And another issue is they've devalued their own IP's so much that even if they pull their heads out of their asses it'll be to diminishing returns. The X-Men and FF will generate much more interest than anything they have going right now but by then it'll have been several years since anything good came out of the MCU and people will just be tired of the concept in general. And they've done the live action remake thing to death so that's not bailing them out either.
>CEO Throwing tantrum at board about how things aren't perfect at his Dow Jones-Listed company
Holy shit, Libs status owned. Overton Window status to the right, two weeks from segregated neighborhoods and Hitler acceptance.
inflation means those numbers will always go up. it’s about whether they are outperforming the competition as well as other industries; essentially whether their films are cultural touchstones or just some movies/shows. the stock market is a beauty contest.
Just gonna leave out that bit about being at 350+ billion just two years ago huh? A company losing over half it's value in a short time span is not a good sign and no spin will say otherwise. This could just be a market adjustment from the over inflated value pre-covid, sure, but continued lack of trust in the brand is apparent in a continuing downward trend.
you’re right, glowie. everyone who knows what they’re talking about agrees disney is doing better than ever right now, and nothing is going wrong at all. Star Wars and the MCU are as popular and profitable as they were in the 2010s, and the $70 billion dollar purchase of Fox will surely be profitable any day now.
>They are paid based on he stock market
So.... profitability, market share, cash flow, etc., etc. have zero impact on their salaries? Idiot!
Also, >he stock market
ESL cretin!
Holywood was created by the israelites.
It's also full of commies and homosexuals since forever.
And they made a good job running it until they decided to "diversify".
hollywood was always driven by nepotism but it's out of fricking control now
none of the shitty little stars they keep trying to push can fricking act
pajeets are doing this to tech right now
When I was a child, Disney was the colossus. It's incredible how they've destroyed themselves and their image, the company is less than a shadow of what it used to be.
I was born in 1989, when Little Mermaid came out. I spent my childhood during Disney's animation renaissance, so to me Disney was synonymous with amazing quality movies. They lost me with the shift to 3DCG, even if some of those films were okay, they just did not have the same feeling as the 2D ones, even the less successful ones that I still really liked.
I think Disney started to flounder badly when they started aggressively acquiring other studios. Pixar, Marvel, Lucas Film... they were bolstering their IP portfolio to make up for a lack of creative vision. It's obvious in retrospect, now.
>Simply impossible
Difficult but not impossible.
A good part of the problem is that the studios are in NY and LA which are infested with dumbshit leftists. So all these zoomers and millennials look around and say "we all want woke stuff. Everyone we know want woke stuff. People on twitter want woke stuff". And the studios listened.
Problem is, a majority of people don't want woke stuff. They just want good stories they can relate to. They don't want politics either left or right. They want entertainment. How tf is this difficult to understand.
>They don't want politics either left or right
Don't accept this premise at all. Politics can be done well if it's thoughtful and committed to exploring various discourses. Even in escapist shit like superhero films, it can be, and has been done. The problem with Disneyslop is that it pretends to be "political" but it has no substance. The Little Mermaid is a perfect example because a black little mermaid could work if you actually had a story centered around it, but it doesn't! It's just like "hey, black people are here in this colonial little kingdom and everyone gets along, how quaint! Got a problem, chud?" It's just bizarre.
their stock price is current below pre-covid numbers. they’ve lost all the gains they made when they printed trillions of dollars and everything inflated to the moon. in fact, if you look at the chart, their stock price is currently at the same level it was at the very bottom of the covid crash in spring 2020. so they are back down to where they were at the bottom of a stock market crash. meanwhile, the rest of the market (SPY) is up nearly DOUBLE where it was at the bottom of the covid crash. they are massively underperforming. it’s a humiliation.
Weird how Hollywood became massively profitable during the Great Depression as cheap escapism but now they keep releasing preachy bombs despite economic circumstances being not dissimilar.
God knows I wouldn’t want to come home from an office job where I’m forced to bend the knee to female HR psychopaths, incompetent diversity hire coworkers and every third day being a crepe-paper and motivational-postered celebration of some niche personality disorder masquerading as a sexuality, only to pay money to have to deal with the same fricking shit in the cinema or at home.
I tell ya hwat I have a completely different perspective on the bad guys in Schindlers List these days than I did when it first came out.
I feel bad for Dinsey's CEO. I will therefore buy a cinema ticket and some merchandise for the next Disney (TM) motion picture at the next available opportunity
I mean, I cant imagine movies have been all that big of a thing since Covid. Did he expect them all the bounce back to billion dollar hits? Like, who the hell even wants to go to a movie theater to pay 40 dollars to see a mediocre movie anymore?
>I cant imagine movies have been all that big of a thing since Covid
We've had multiple billion dollar box offices since Covid. People still absolutely show up to theaters for films if they're films people wanna see. People haven't wanted to see Disney's films for a while now. They reluctantly went to see Marvel or Star Wars films hoping for a return to form of earlier entries, but you can only be disappointed so many times before you stop bothering to meet Disney halfway.
People like movies. Note that none of the post-covid movies breaking 1 billion are Disney. Spider-man was by Sony. None of their Marvel or Star Wars offerings have managed to get anywhere near the top of the box office for the last 3 years.
It has brand recognition and people have an unnatural connection to Nintendo. The japs should have given the project to Animal Logic in Australia since that studio manages to make interesting films instead of slop for babies.
>TROS at 1 billion
I remember discussing how shit the sequels were in a bar with some friends years ago now, near when TLJ came out and was shit. I also distinctly remember agreeing that TROS would "just barely" break a billion thanks to Disney massaging it there. Now I look back and we may have been drunk, but we were prophets. Probably no different to many other people thinking the same thing at the time, but still.
For years people tried to mock Jeffrey Katzenberg and Michael Eisner but they unironically understood that Disney was supposed to just have its space as a solid brand for children's entertainment, for children first and foremost.
Iger came from ABC and his whole thing was turning Disney into some kind of general entertainment Hollywood conglomerate. Chapek went even further and wanted to start presenting Disney in other completely unrelated sectors like tech and finance and shit.
publicly traded companies needing ever increasing profits are a mistake
there is only so much a company can do to increase profits before they have to expand into other industries, but the last step is the worst - when they have to cut costs to increase profits, which must come at the expense of the staff, product and customer
Probably true kek. Their parents and grandparents were masters of sneaking globohomosexual into an otherwise enjoyable and entertaining work, this generation just starts with the globohomo, announces it, and then forgets to make it enjoyable.
>getting this upset over cartoons for children
socialize IRL and fast
This. They know exactly what people want to see, they just refuse to do it for political reasons. Financial beatings will continue until morale improves
They know why.
If I try to do a fricking kickflip and eat shit I know it's because I've never been on a skateboard on my life and really I have no fricking business being on one, shits obvious.
If they keep putting woke agendas to the forefront of movies and loose money WELL SHIT IT MUST BE FRICKING GHOSTS.
What the frick, shits obvious they have no business in that draw some pretty white princesses getting a prince make some money and shut the frick up
https://www.folger.edu/explore/shakespeares-works/romeo-and-juliet/read/
Wow conflating one instance as to the general means.
Read this I think it has a good message you should take on board.
Be better.
>He deleted his post
Just so everyone knows.
He posted some dumb shit that didn't matter
He basically said oh if I shit my pants everyone does.
Because he was being moronic, that's why he took it down but please understand why.
I saw it.
It’s a common nu-leftist fallacy that it’s better to have no standards of morality than it is to have standards but have some individuals who hold those standards be hypocrites.
I don’t care what Senator Frickhead (R) from buttfrickasota did. Maybe he’s a hypocrite but that doesn’t mean we all are.
If you wanna be a huge homosexual, go for it but keep it out of my life and away from little children.
The one thing James Rolfe had spot on that modern Hollywood can’t seem to fathom (or refuses to) was when he said basically, “when you guys watch my videos, you’re not here to think about politics or all the bad stuff going on in the world. My videos are here to give you some fun and escape from all that.”
Modern Hollywood “entertainment” is not entertaining because it isn’t mean to entertain you. It’s meant to CORRECT you.
The minute I read James Rolfe I got twisted trying to figure out who that was before I remembered the theme song.
just getting that out, but yes I 100% agree and I AM huge homosexual but obviously that's my business you don't care nor do you because hey that's my preference and even me bringing it up here is completely uncalled for no one asked no one cares.
And that's why exactly as you said the modern entrainment isn't entertaining by the reality that it isn't trying to entertain you it's trying to TELL you something.
What really gets to me is this is somehow put down liberals ......sure I concede the main propagators of this media are "liberal" but I'm not fricking claiming them, I'm embarrassed by them honestly and I can't even state that without suddenly being a nazi meanwhile we have all this shit telling us how to feel and be and somehow that's fine yeah that's not being a nazi.like can't we see what's happening?
I'm just exhausted and ranting blog post over, have a nice day thank you for at least talking and responding.
Any argument against me nevermind how you feel just her I'm the dude popping off on you fake liberals?
You wanna come back?
I can't be fricked checking this honestly I'm gonna close the tab
>by Boluwatife Adeyemi
Why are journos always shady mystery meats turdworlders?
I think it's an alias for AI
Cheaper.
not at all
I can answer that question. You see 99.9999999% of modern "journalists" are just freelance writers. They write an article, farm it out to distributors online, those articles are posted (anyone can do this btw), and they are paid like .0001 cents per view. Well to you and me making 19 cents for a days work isn't a very good deal, but to Mondogumbo Diginiropoopoopeepee from Bumfrick Egypt that 19 cents buys your family a weeks worth of dirt pies. Pretty much everything like this online is farmed out to third worlders now because they will work for slave wages.
third worlders have two options in life:
1) dey milk da cow
2) dey write da blog
>mystery meats
Europeans?
What's the K stand for?
sounds like the latin name of a kind of fungus that exclusively lives on dolphin corpses
linkedin profile
>culture journalist
>Lagos, Nigeria
LOL
Black Articles Matter chud
some years ago, maybe as much as 10, all those pseudo-journalistic blogs started replacing all their staff with freakish minorities, the weirder name the better
they all have the same voice and the same opinion (only one allowed) on everything
I guess diversity matters
By not making bad movies
They need to make fewer movies and TV shows too. Before it felt like each kovie was a main event. Now there's so many Marvel projects the specialness has worn away.
>By not making bad movies
That didn’t stop them from making money before
KWAB
~~*Boluwatife Adeyemi*~~
Did you try making a good movie? Is that even possible anymore with all the ESGbux , fat middle aged white women and diversity hires?
>surprising
I want a job telling them that they're wasting money on shit nobody wants. Learn to read a room or get better consumer engagement guys
there's probably dozens of people like that but from experience they ironically bring in a lot of bias because the only people that choose that career are girlboss women. it should be a job for autismos but they understandably have little interest in such work
All they need to do is add a form at the end of all show and movie proposals with one question.
>Who is this for?
What saved disney in 1980s was Whos Framing Roger Rabbit and The little mermaid, so I guess they should make noir stuff with cartoon breasts, and colorful animations for little girls. And the huge flop was an animation based on welsh shit, so ignore those frickers
>what saved disney was a movie they didn't make
>And the huge flop was an animation based on welsh shit, so ignore those frickers
That movie was better than the Little Mermaid.
>The secret to success is big titted redheads
Why do people have to keep rediscovering this?
>New Red Sonja is a 5’7” half-israelite half-Italian brunette mutt with a dye job and no breasts
Yeah I don’t understand how they keep fricking up so badly, like how hard is it to give the paying audience they want, instead of humourless DEI consultants?
Saar!
Who is Framing Rabjur Rabjet was maaaaaassive hit in my village too!
Touchstone saved Disney in the 80s cause it gave them the ability to compete with arthouse films and set it up to get better talent into the studio in the 90s.
I want to see the timeline where Don Bluth continued to mog Disney.
They already do this. And it probably kills more projects than it allows to go forward. A movie has to appeal to certain audience segments, meaning they think those segments will buy tickets. Like with nu-wars, they knew young men would show up already, so they tried to hit additional segments like girls and blacks and homos by adding ray and fin and Adam driver. They know little white girls will show up to the little mermaid, so they made her black to try to get little black girls to show up too and goose the numbers. If a movie just hits one demographic like white incels, it just doesn't get made anymore.
and then no one shows up because
>these characters are terrible and this movie looks awful
I mean, maybe, but we still all went to TFA, right? We've all seen the little girls cosplaying as rey. I'm not saying it's the smartest strategy for the long-term, but just saying "who is this for" like that'll solve the problem is moronic. They need to maximize the "who" it's for in order to make the most money. The solution is obviously to make smaller movies that need not appeal to such a broad audience in order to make it's money back. An anon suggested it up thread but was told to take his meds lol. He's right.
>I mean, maybe
its happened over and over again. a GREAT example is that halo series they made on the assumption that
>halogays would watch anything
>they could draw new audiences
the halogays weren't interested because of all the shit they did to try to "draw new audiences" and "the new audiences" weren't interested because they already knew they didn't like halo.
Star wars being out of the hands of a petulant moron restored some faith in the franchise, then disney wars peaked with that first movie and exponentially declined into what we have now, shows literally no one is watching.
>but just saying "who is this for" like that'll solve the problem is moronic. They need to maximize the "who" it's for in order to make the most money.
Girls aren't going to turn out en masse for action movies. Boys aren't going to turn out en masse for romcoms. Americans aren't going to turn out en masse for anti-American movies. Studios need just a bit of common sense. It boggles my mind that studios don't know this, but they clearly don't.
>The solution is obviously to make smaller movies that need not appeal to such a broad audience in order to make it's money back.
Well yeah smaller budgets = less risk.
Smaller budgets = can be open to new IP (as we have seen ALL IP has a shelf life). The more you use the IP, the quicker people tire of it.
>I'm not saying it's the smartest strategy for the long-term
It's not just that it's infeasible in the long-term, it's that it ultimately kills your brand in the long-term. There's a difference between making mediocre movies and making movies people actively hate. What they did with Star Wars wasn't simply to overexpose the brand, they made it toxic.
Yeah, more places need to hire a jester/laurel bearer. Imagine being paid for common sense by the uncommon
Here’s a tip for all you struggling CEOs out there: fire all your women and replace them with men. Voila you’ve made your company survive.
The basedhomosexuals allowed this to happen in the first place, you need to fire the men too. The replacements don't even need to be right wing dudes who post under a frog avatar on twitter, just people smart enough to understand how monumentally stupid a snow white movie with a brown snow white and no dwarves is
More Brothers Grimm, Hans Christian Andersen and Dickens, that's all they have to do.
>how monumentally stupid a snow white movie with a brown snow white and no dwarves is
the main problem is the lgtb push and the obsession to make the boys/ young male content (Star Wars, Mahvel) for fems too.
It's not just "for fems too" its EXSCUCIVILY for 25+ cat moms
This. I'm tired of the "they included women so now it sucks" argument. You can make things that appeal to both. I know, because Disney USED TO DO EXACTLY THAT! Feel like I'm taking LSD here, you just need attractive actress and men who don't spend the whole runtime getting shit on for no reason!
Disney spent the last decade or two shitting on straight White men with the stated reason of appeasing coloreds, homosexuals, and holes; and when any White guy complained about not getting any of this representation, he was told to go watch all the old stuff. Well guess what, now we're doing that and you're getting no money because we already own the DVDs.
progressive institutions are run by sycophants, that's why they all end up promoting incompetent people and producing shit products. it's what happens when your culture runs on shame instead of guilt.
it's just that women also run on shame instead of guild, so the higher a proportion of women your institution has in leadership positions, the more progressive and thus incompetent and shitty it's going to be
and what will they do when the "woke" mob is rapping at their door screeching about "racism" for not having a brown snow white, what about the lawsuits, boycotts, walkouts and so on, you know they have something prepared for when media companies start rejecting them
The men they'd get have the same disease as the women. That asiatic that makes bomb after bomb at pixar isn't any better than any woman.
And what? Stare at men asses and get zero cleavage peeks? No thanks gay.
*straight white men
To be fair some gay White men have good taste.
If I had to choose between a gay man choosing my wife’s clothes or a straight white modern woman, the gay man is the best choice. And a gay man can write or direct a great story without making it about himself.
Its deeper than even this now. I no longer trust the Disney brand around children. Im sure plenty of parents feel the same. And thats something you cant shake off with a good movie. Even a great movie. I dont want gay and troony bullshit shown to my children, full stop.
Theyve done irreparable harm to their brand at this point.
They need to only hire men but they have to do blood work first and only hire them if their testosterone levels are in the quadruple digits. Anything lower is unacceptable for creating kino.
> Useless, lazy parasite exhausted after having to make a few phone calls.
Aww poor diddums.
Skill issue
I was told the movies are actually doing well and it's an alt right conspiracy theory that they're not successful, what am I supposed to believe now?
Disney+ killed them
Bob unironically thought he was going to use Disney as a spring board to run for president
The people wants breasts and asses.
Give us that and you'll have your Billion per movie back, Marvel.
Current Hollywood is devoid of that.
it couldn't've. the pirmary factor here is fractionalization of the entertainment market. they had the choice between a slow creeping death or a fast death, they chose fast because blackrock will subsidize it. now they're praying someone will buy them and save them from the financial ruin they engineered for themselves.
>fractionalization
no? the vast majority of the english speaking world are still straight white people with no interest in wokeshit.
market fractionalizaiton. is the reason they started in on "wokeshit." they had already lost the white entertainment market to other mediums and tried to pull in women, gays, and shitskins.
I think they're counting that the white male fans of their stuff are such corporate prostitutes that they will reliably buy whatever they're selling, which frees them to go after other markets.
that's what they're telling the executives and what the executives are telling the shareholders. its not true, of course.
80% of spending in the west is done by women
Women are gays.
on cosmetics and clothes
Not enough diversity. Clearly audiences want more Black folk in movies.
Maybe more gay characters, raceswaps (only from white to Black though), interracial couples and injection of woke ideologies into Disney movies and shows will help!
Live action Tarzan with a black lead when?
I personally enjoy the complete disruption of an entire industry and downsizing of its significance as an audience moves towards more video games and serialized content.
But Netflix is an awful business to model yourself after.
>Insert gay/troon groomer shit in shows targeted towards children
>vids leak of execs proudly bragging about this
>get called out
>double down on inserting gay/troon shit in shows targeted towards children
Oy vey the antisemitism!
This is nothing new for disney. The difference is that when they were about to crash in 1980s youtubers werent telling you it's because "the black cauldron" was too israeli or troony or whatever
I’m bizarrely inoculated to poltards by a youth of my dad and his christschizo friends going off about how {Harry Potter, that 70s show, Frasier, whatever movie came out, video games, will and Grace, etc} were demonic harbingers of evil sodomy and idolatry or whatever.
Half the shit he complained about the current generation of morons hold up as being based and the good old days now.
He was right about everything, especially Will and Grace, other than Frasier. Sometimes even the great Ted Williams struck out.
It wouldn’t be possible to list all of the things he thought were evil homosexualy whatever
Like all of you morons it’s some form of schizophrenia where they can be watching something normal and something sets them off like a dog hearing fireworks
Insufferable animals
>be watching something normal and something sets them off like a dog hearing fireworks
The problem, is that you think gay shit is normal.
Probably because you're at least half a gay yourself.
you seem low iq
You're more than likely just completely missing the subtext what youre watching. Some really wild shit is presented as normal in media in such an innocous way that can be easily missed if you don't stop and think about it.
Based dad, too bad he had a homosexual son like you.
Everything you mentioned helped push the current cultural shitshow we are in now.
>I'm not boiled yet, ribbit ribbit
your dad should have had your mom get an abortion
My point is precisely that poltards are dead frogs that think they’re escaping by moving to a different part of the pot
What has your dad got to do with /misc/tards
he was right
you have daddy issues that taint any semblance of impartiality
>This is how all /misc/tards think
Diagnosis: moronic with massive butthurt over shit that doesn’t happen
i didn't believe my dad and he turned out to be right about everything.
>Half the shit he complained about the current generation of morons hold up as being based and the good old days now.
That's how conservative minds work: they want to return to their childhood, and its real or imagined better days. What that ultimately is is subjective to the particular conservative. It's not a political idealogy so much as a tantrum.
yeah it's all those conservatives buying pokemon cards and going to barcades to play 30 year old video games.
That isn't political, but proceeds from a similar impulse. Progressives lack the shame required to mask their childish or base interests. The same behavior in conservative circles is shamed, so it surfaces in different ways. That's why you can usually tell what sins a conservative is secretly commiting by what they denounce the loudest. I'm honestly concerned by how many in the alt-right bang on about pedophiles.
You're a grown man who lives with his mom. Glass houses.
You believe that because you want it to be true. Just like any religious impulse, or intense ideological indoctrination, your intellectual opponent must be imagined as ridiculous so you can feel good about laughing at him and dismiss his claims outright.
you got owned with facts and logic and tried to change the subject
I did not. He made an objection and I answered it. A general truism is that conservatives look to a golden age of the past they seek to return to, and progressives look to a golden age of the future that escapes the past they wish never to return to. It's not a change of subject, and adults buying pokemon cards doesnt refute my observation about conservatives.
Sure gay, now go play with your pokemon cards. Now it's ego can't handle it. It MUST reply.
The absolute fricking stupidity of believing that all change is automatically good and all preservation of tradition is automatically bad.
You don’t see conservatives raping, looting, committing arson, doing billions in damage and even murdering each other to prove how ‘(adjective) lives matter’ you absolute fricking moron.
It’s not society’s responsibility to change to suit you and your red-banner-waving, prog-brainwashing, unemployable, drug-addicted, useless-degree-holding, bike-lock-assaulting, skateboard-swinging wastes of skin and hair.
You want to talk about tantrums, progressives have been shidding farting and screaming like toddlers since 2016 and there’s no apparent end in sight, no matter how much you freaks are pandered to. Frick you.
>You don’t see conservatives raping, looting, committing arson, doing billions in damage and even murdering each other to prove how ‘(adjective) lives matter’ you absolute fricking moron.
Yes you do see this actually, it's called Israel. Look it up.
You have no idea what I am politically, and your emotional shitpost is irrelevant.
>You have no idea what I am politically
Maybe not but I’m confident you’re overweight, underemployed, rent your home instead of owning it, and blame ‘conservatives’ for your absolute personal failure.
Here’s a cold hard truth, it’s you who has failed society, not the other way around.
Jesus Christ, you're such a b***h. Conservatives don't hold any power, they're stooges for bigger and more domineering social forces. That's why they've been known as "cuckservatives" for years. All a Cuckservative knows is failure, and all they can do impotently b***h and complain about imaginary people "destroying 'merica!".
God I hate /misc/tourists.
>REEEEEEE /misc/, /misc/, the person I'm discussing politics with is /misc/ because he doesn't share my views given to me by reddit and I'm losing...
No loser, I'm not even the guy you're originally arguing with. Conservatives are fricking gay. They don't get pussy, they stick up for Israel and they have no principles. I'm just stating the facts. In a just world you would still be on r/theDonald. Plenty of normal people don't like woke shit but aren't politically conservatives because they know it's fricking gay.
Good luck with the dissacociative identy disorder my unemployed, trans friend.
>muh trans! You must be trans! You must be a loser! I need to believe this to keep my sanit-ACK
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Hyper-fixated on gay shit and projecting your own insecurities. This is what conservatism is.
>Being conservative
>= gay
Can you put your fricking crack pipe down and stop embarrassing us, you're a fricking moron
Wait until you see what’s coming next
>They don't get pussy, they stick up for Israel and they have no principles
Stereotypes are the language of ignorance, homosexual.
Stereotypes are also based on observable patterns.
Hold up.
So a serotype conservative white man.
Gay?
stereotypes are based on confirmation bias.
>stereotypes are based on confirmation bias.
Are you fricking high.
A stereotype BY IT'S VERY DEFINITION is
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.
You understand that is not "conformation bias" If it WASNT a stereotype then why would it be so ? would it BE a stereotype if it DIDNT adhere to the RULE and MEANS of BEING ONE
is that confirmation bias? that it is WHAT IT FRICKING IS.
Read some more books, you're a fricking child.
>you're a fricking child.
says the guy who start screaming because of one innocuous sentence.
>Screaming
Articulating and properly defending your position is not childish nor is having the courage and wherewithal to do so, that's what adults do.
>Screaming
yeah, that's what caps-lock means
>courage
we're on an anonymous image board
You feel that way.
That's fine, actually CAPITALIZING words is to ACCENTUATE them.
>We're on an anonymous image board
And yet your best argument is ....uhh big words scary I don't understand why it's LOUD.
What are you fricking saying why are you saying it and how does it refute anything I said
Seriously what is even happening here I genuinely get your frustration, by the fricking definition of liberal they are meant to be open minded accepting and understanding.
But a conflicting viewpoint comes along and the end up screaming about the boogeyman.
I would call myself liberal but if I have to stand beside that fricking clown then put the maga hat on my fricking head, we can't even talk about causality without the boogeyman coming out to get them.
WTF
I claimed to be socially liberal for years but these insufferable leftist homosexuals wouldn’t let it go.
Eventually this shit is going to blow up in their faces.
You started this by screeching about conservatives, moron.
Answer me this to get this shit back on topic- why do YOU think Disney’s recent slate has resulted in flop after flop?
>I may have laid my thoughts and opinions bare but I didn't outright state what talking head I recieve my thoughts from so I can't be held responsible for my words...
Everyone in this thread, notice how this type of shill never actually denies those charges. They only whine and weasel and say you can't prove it, as if they are on a debate stage hoping some moderator is going to save them by forcing anons to play along with their lies.
yeah, they think if they are vague and never give any opinions themselves, they are safe from counter-arguments, not realizing the shit they are defending or attacking reveals their affiliation anyway
Yeah and it's fricking embarrassing, me having to stop these fricking morons make my entire agenda is exhausting, Love prosperity freedom that's what I fricking believe in acceptance and love as gay as that shit sounds that's what I want for everyone, but we have THESE fricking mouth breathing droids making me look bad because of how moronic they are, I hate it so much.
>Eventually this shit is going to blow up in their faces.
Oh it fricking will, because eventually they are gonna be stood on their moron hill wondering why no one else is with them and it's pretty fricking simple IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE moronic.
Like frick sake, we have equal rights we won wtf is happening now? WHY
it's about protecting the fundamental building blocks of civilization carefully crafted by millennia of trial and error from being torn down by a generation of narcissistic morons that think they know better
The Black Cauldron was decent, it just wasn't quite what the plebs were expecting at the time. If it came out now we'd say it was the best thing Disney had made in years
It was the movie that Tolkien had the foresight to avoid. Disney has a formula, the formula doesn't work with many stories. DC manages to be way too scary for little kids and way too silly for everyone else at the same time. The books are good, Disney's take on the books was doomed to failure. And a random pretty redhead because thank you for reminding me Labour DC.
They've been happy enough to call anyone who doesn't watch their movies bigots and racists and homophobes. They should be thrilled that less people are watching their films, no awful people get to enjoy their wonderful work.
My wife put on that new Disney Goosebumps show and it is just a bunch of 25-30 year olds pretending to be high schoolers and there's this huge homosexual weirdo who might be trans and is either a 20 year old ftm or a 30 year old mtf in it that gets far too much screen time. It was disturbing.
>hire a female to male troony to play a boy character
>27 and looks like she's in her 40s and hitting the wall in real time
>said character dresses more fabulously than any flaming homosexual you had in your highschool growing up
>have to completely change the cuckoo clock of doom plot to avoid de-aging the character and either being forced to use a young girl actress or a real boy actress
Now here's the real kicker
>makes the female to male troony the gay character
Shits feels like a comedy goldmine where the show creator or writers were forced to include a troony so they're making it as insane as possible
Wait that boy in the cat suit was born a woman? Frick that’s disappointing, I thought he was a femboy twink.
>25-30 year olds pretending to be high schoolers
They do this because actual minors have way more labor restrictions on sets and aren't allowed to work nearly as many hours. Still weird how they always make fricking 30-year-olds play 15-year-olds though.
> it is just a bunch of 25-30 year olds pretending to be high schoolers
That's nothing new.
Creepy uncanny masquerading sounds like a Goosebumps aesthetic to be fair.
>25-30 year olds pretending to be high schoolers
That's normal, Skins is probably the only show where you had actual teens playing high schoolers
>huge homosexual weirdo who might be trans and is either a 20 year old ftm
Correct, ftm with zipperbreasts
what if they made interesting movies rather than trying to cynically exploit nostalgic brands?
>trying to cynically exploit nostalgic brands?
You say this, but most of their live action remakes grossed a huge box office
Jews led the Disney renaissance in the 80's and 90's. Those are legit good movies even if some of the globohomosexual propaganda was starting to filter in. There's something different today. I think it's women in all of their committees and decision roles being idiots.
by hiring white men instead of filling every department with talentless diversity hires
The real answer? Stop hiring LGBT and women. While there are a few amazing creators in that field of view, 99% of them suck fricking ass so much, and only got to where they are by nepotism, by esg or by knowing some other terribly untalented person in the industry that vouched for them.
Comics have been hiring troons and women because it fills a quota, not because of how talented they are. Look at the writing in the newest spiderman game, and you'll see what I mean.
israelite CEO exhausted the goyim won’t eat his slop anymore
Public beheading of kennedy, iger, filioni and all millennial writers they have ever hired streamed in 4k for everyone to watch on prime hours on Friday evening
Calling shotgun on the heads of Rogen, Kripke and Lindelof.
didnt they used to have teams and studios that were responsible for coming up with and realizing good ideas for movies?
Whatever happened to those? I wonder when was the last time where someone at disney had a real creative meeting and not just one where they discussed how to "tweak" things and make it appeal to this and that audience.
>Whatever happened to those?
replaced by test marketing and focus groups, supervised by twitter analytics
Replaced by people like Jennifer Lee, Peter Sohn, and Domee Shi
>surprising
To who?
I like how they pretend to care about money.
despite your fantasies of being attacked, every (bad) decision they've made over the last decade has been about money.
for even if you're right, and it truly is all about propaganda, no one is watching it.
Kathleen Kennedy will make another star wars trilogy
With rian johnson
Haunted Mansion was doomed the second they dropped Guillermo del Toro.
Wasn't it made on purpose? Who the frick do they think they're fooling? lmao.
Go back in time a prevent “The Last Jedi” from being released. That’s the movie that opened the floodgates and forever changed the relationship between the fandom and the studios. Sure, Disney carried forward ok for the next few years with Marvel, but TLJ was the moment that Disney first cracked open, and now the cracks are so massive and ubiquitous that the entire brand is about to collapse
gamergate is what taught studios they had complete control over critics and they could spin a narrative that the audience is at fault for not liking every movie
the fricking media won a huge victory with that shit
But that option failed with TLJ. The corporate media pushed the narrative that dissent on that film was the result of “Russian Trolls” ….which obviously wasn’t true.
>that option failed
how many people were fired over the sequels?
i rest my case.
hey jackie chan hasn't worked again since the end of the trilogy
>studios they had complete control over critics and they could spin a narrative
TLJ was hated against the narrative, Joker was loved against the narrative. They got too wienery and they have no power now. People are siding with fricking Palestine on this war for fricks sake, that's how weak they are now
The Force Awakens is where it started going wrong. Why do people pretend it isn't just as shit as TLJ or even worse?
If you actually think TFA was a good movie you're moronic and your opinion is irrelevant.
I don’t think anyone thought it was good, but we were willing to give it a chance, then TLJ just dilated on everyone and that was the end.
>The Force Awakens is where it started going wrong. Why do people pretend it isn't just as shit as TLJ or even worse?
Agreed. TLJ was shit but Rian at least ATTEMPTED something innovative. He failed but TFA was like AI wrote the movie, then AI made edits to said movie.
>TLJ was shit but Rian at least ATTEMPTED something innovative
This kind of apologetics for TLJ is just stupefying to see. TLJ is an atrocious film. It's not just a bad Star Wars movie, it's an abysmally written movie, period. It's full of gaping plot holes and inconsistencies from scene to scene. We literally have a scene where one character kills herself to stop another character from killing himself and telling him that it's important to live rather than die, and then immediately dying as a result of her doing exactly what she stopped him from doing. It's mind bogglingly stupid and treated like some epic emotional moment. And this is just one of several follies in the script. The inconsequential side plot that eats up a third of the film. Betrayal by a character we met 20 minutes ago being treated as some kind of major twist. A slow speed space chase that characters can leave from whenever they want, but don't. And many more besides. I can write thousands of words on how badly written this film is before I even touch what it did to Star Wars and its characters, which is just the shit frosting on the turd cake.
Still more interesting than TFA though
I agree in that truly terrible movies are more interesting to critique than bland retreads of older films. TFA does have its own idiotic plot holes, but on the whole its primary sin is a lack of imagination.
TFA was always going to be defined by what came after it. It's a thoughtless, shameless, embarassingly safe ANH rip-off, but a lot of people accepted it as a necessary evil to get the films up and running again. Rian looked at TFA and thought "Disney is copying the OT? in that case, I'm gonna subvert expectations, hee hee" and derailed every single plot point TFA set up while setting nothing up for the next film. Of course, it was the right decision to deviate from the OT's storyline, but TLJ botched it and triggered humiliating levels of course correction (sigh, sheev is back).
I think it's fair to describe TLJ as the best movie of the trio, or at the very least the one most worthy of discussion. But that's not an achievement. The sequel trilogy as a whole makes for a much better discussion - why did Disney take one of the biggest film IPs in history and start a trilogy without any plan of which direction to take it in?
I think the answer is simply "Star Wars sells, we just spent a fortune on it, everyone just pumping out movies, tv shows and toys and lets make some money go go go". It was always a product that sold itself to them, they didn't see the need to plan anything out. Hell, they probably think planning gets in the way of "Adjusting to market demand". If they plan ahead they can't adjust to what will sell most or some other ridiculous reason.
JJ is moronic for making a remake and marketing it as a sequel. Rian is moronic for prematurely ending every plot thread that JJ set up for him. Neither of these films are good and both of them deserve ridicule for what they did.
>why did Disney take one of the biggest film IPs in history and start a trilogy without any plan of which direction to take it in?
It's what explains a lot of human behavior, including recent history, actions by political and social leaders,etc...
Incompetence and stupidity.
There is no grand plan, no 4d chess to purposely kill SW or release bad movies. They're just dumb and they make bad decisions.
>why did Disney take one of the biggest film IPs in history and start a trilogy without any plan of which direction to take it in?
If you've ever been in a room full of "creative consultants" or marketing people, then you fully understand that there was no plan.
What audiences are crying out for in entertainment are people with creative visions that can tell a story, and the sad reality is that these types of directors are marginalised now because academia has deliberately pushed back against auteur theory for the better part of 30 years. Movies are merely studio productions, they are not led by people with a creative direction. When Disney hires a competent director, it's almost the same effect as casting a famous star, they want a name and that's it.
amen
TFA played it safe and took no chances, so as a result it wasn’t a very good movie.
But at least JJ’s “mystery box” set something up with potential. It offered us mysteries and questions and left me wanting to see where things went.
But then, either they had no plan for the skeleton of the trilogy, or Rian Johnson completely threw out that plan to make a movie that shit on the audience’s curiosity.
Rey is nobody, Snoke is nobody and he’s dead, Luke had no secret plan and has become a nobody and is dead. Poe is an butthole now for no reason, Finn and Hux are both bad jokes. Rose was a complete waste of time, I feel bad for her actress.
All of the amazing theories fans had, all of the potential, it was just thrown out and the answer to all of it was “nothing.” Every Chekhov’s gun left unfired, and many of them thrown into the fire.
I had bad feelings when I found out the three films would have three directors. It told me they didn’t know where they were going, and the disaster of TLJ proves that.
So no, TFA wasn’t a good film, but it might have set us up for something great if only the people who wrote episode 8 knew frick all about Star Wars.
You have it so backwards. There was zero potential in the shitty mystery boxes, and Rian Johnson actually set up for something new and interesting in the way that he burned all that shit down. Any answer to any of those mystery boxes would have sucked. Who was Snoke? Who the frick cares? He sucked. The only interesting thing going on was the chemistry between Rey and Kylo and the fact that they seemed to have more in common with each other than they did with these ancient roles they were expected to fall into.
Admittedly the movie wasn't great and the setup was rough, but I had actual optimism at the end of that movie. Unfortunately they would have needed a little originality to make it work, and JJ is completely incapable of that.
Quit making every movie about identity politics and shit you Disneyfricking idiots. People are saying they hate it and you keep cranking out more of it hoping it will go differently
>People are saying they hate it
the death-dive is fueled by the fact this is the most people have talked about their produces in decades.
Awww poor CEO-chan, he is so sad that he has to go home to his giant mansion and swim in his money bin
>"suprising"
tv - grown ass men getting angry about Disney
>television and film board talks about a top 5 largest media Corp
Fricking great insight senpai
This post - mentally ill man who thinks he's a woman getting angry at people mocking Disney
>got to defend muh disney
The CEO is a grown ass man getting emotional over Disney movies.
Got 'em
>Don't worry about propaganda meant for your children parents
Feraljak transition to male went really well.
Is that what he’s called? He's hilarious.
Makes a nice change from being angry about BoJack Horseman or Rick and Morty.
Have they tried making GOOD movies?
Ironically, it was probably that whole Princess shtick that laid the groundwork for their collapse.
They turned the Disney brand into something that only attracts chicks and gays to work for them, then the chicks and gays push to make more content for chicks and gays and the whole company purity spiralled into gayhag gay disco oblivion.
This will save Disnep
It's always the same black actors and actresses that not even the majority of black people like or are interested in.
They're not for black audiences. They're for the white ones that want to feel good about liking movies with black actors. Their test data is flawed and thinks there are more people who will pay for this than wont.
moronic
it is deliberate propaganda, and they make 1.1 billion clear profit instead of 1.05 billion then complain about it.
they don’t care
>the masses await Snow White
>something something Micheal B. Jordan <super traditionally white role hero>
It never comes to fruition, that guy is pure clickbait.
Greece should sue Disney like Egypt did when they tried to make cleopatra black.
When it comes to Star Wars they should hire the most wisest sages, the creme de la crop of Star Wars nerds and let them write what fans want. At least for a test phase. It can't get worse than Rey and frens
More cope fodder for the delusional woke going broke people.
>th th theey haave to stoop suubverting at some point... right?
How do you get tired from making bad movies?
If they're bad you spent no energy to make them
>proceeds to make black rocketeer film
Probably true kek. Their parents and grandparents were masters of sneaking globohomosexual into an otherwise enjoyable and entertaining work, this generation just starts with the globohomo, announces it, and then forgets to make it enjoyable.
All he had to do was make a some White Princess movies every few years and the company would be golden. Make as many LGBT-BLM movies you want, but make sure you make a White Princess movie for the toy market. Easy.
But they were too up their own ass and obsessed with pandering to Twitter and Larry Fink, that they refused to do so.
bob iger is going to go down as the man who killed disney. if he had just retired and stayed away nobody would have pointed the finger at him. now that he is back not only are people blaming him for the current flops disney is pumping out, they are looking back at all his billion dollar acquisitions he made and starting to see they were a mistake.
he bought pixar, pixar makes nothing but garbage now. he bought star wars, the franchise went from the biggest cash cow in the world, even during the prequels era where public reception was bad, to being unable to sell movies or toys. he bought fox just to get the marvel ips they had and everyone cheered, but now the mcu is dying and they can't get an ff movie out and they have to respect the contracts of old x-men actors and can't recast for a few more years.
every poor decision iger made could have been passed along to chapik if iger had let it, but instead he let chapik take the fall too quickly and is trying to right a ship that is currently filling with water. disney's biggest struggle right now is they lack a significant war chest to fall back on in hard times because iger pissed away all the money they had in the bank.
>pixar makes nothing but garbage now
This is the problem at heart..
Why did Pixar become trash? Pixar had a really good track record pre-Disney; and as I understand it they function semi-independent, where Disney is just the parent company that is doing laissez faire parenting.
You have two studios that both hit the same market of family content, and they more or less independently of each other begins to produce crap around the same time.
John Lasseter being split between Pixar and Disney Animation Studios has a lot to do with that, I think. Not that I think he's some demi-god, but he had a vision and told people no, then he got canned. Neither studio has a strong lead to guide them to where they should go, so with nobody wanting to step on toes a lot more is permitted and goes unchallenged. Combine that with the hot metoo/PC climate that was running rampant for over a decade and you have a lot of people keeping their heads down and doing what's safe to keep their jobs.
lmao didn't they fire the main guy who was responsible for all their good movie over some made up 'me too' bullshit where he hugged some homosexual and the homosexual didn't like being hugged by a fat guy?
it was rashida jones
No Lasseter, no Pixar, simple as.
Disney started to dictate to Pixar what they had to make and how they had to make it.
It’s like getting Joel Robuchon to cater for your party then forcing him to make jell-o salads and tater tot casserole when your guests are expecting soufflés and foie gras.
Too many pandering producers, not enough creatives with actual visions. Simple as.
Not being woke? I don't know anymore.
>surprising box office failures
>surprising
Hey, I'll do his job for half the price, Disney. I'll come in on day one and let you know which projects are complete shit with zero effort and 100% accuracy.
Hey Bob, I bet you lurk here. Quit greenlighting movies that need to make 600,000,000 to break even, you simple c**t.
Take you meds, schizo.
>oy vey deepthroating Larry Fink is so exhausting!
HEY DISNEY moronS
GIVE US THIS
PROFIT
/THREAD
I would say a good start would be to go from their current one $300 million/movie method to a 30 $10 million/movie model. Or something like that. They can be more specific with their audiences and with the writing/ production side.
this shit's gonna flop. even Encanto didn't perform well despite being memed.
Wasn't Encanto the most streamed movie on Disney Plus last year? Hispanic people love it.
That was all me, cooming to luisa
Hispanics can take their family to the cinema and pay for 37 tickets, or wait until it hits streaming and just pack those 37 people into one room and watch it for $15.
Yeah no shit they loved it.
>Ahaha, you see the wienered eyebrow! CLassic! It's an expression that says "hey look at me! I'm up to no good! Maybe a little mischief is on the cards in this feature film?" Ohohohoho this is gonna be gangbusters!
>surprising
I've been under the assumption that they're doing this shit knowing full well it's potential box office poison and are just too committed to the ideology to care. If they're genuinely shocked by the backlash then it's even worse than I thought. They could stop being deliberately contrarian any time they wanted to but if this recent batch of films is unironically their best effort then they're just fricking doomed
And another issue is they've devalued their own IP's so much that even if they pull their heads out of their asses it'll be to diminishing returns. The X-Men and FF will generate much more interest than anything they have going right now but by then it'll have been several years since anything good came out of the MCU and people will just be tired of the concept in general. And they've done the live action remake thing to death so that's not bailing them out either.
I guess they're betting on the entire world becoming a dysgenic hellhole in time to save their stock prices.
>CEO Throwing tantrum at board about how things aren't perfect at his Dow Jones-Listed company
Holy shit, Libs status owned. Overton Window status to the right, two weeks from segregated neighborhoods and Hitler acceptance.
interesting projection
Stop making goyslop and go back to marketing towards white men, then people will see your movies
>misspells the word “from”
Yeah. Sue me, Cleetus
>Misspells the name "Cletus"
I don't think you're in a position to denigrate other people's intelligence
Trolling is a art
>I was merely pretending to be moronic.
You should find a hobby better suited towards you, like crossdressing
embarrassing cope
>a art
inflation means those numbers will always go up. it’s about whether they are outperforming the competition as well as other industries; essentially whether their films are cultural touchstones or just some movies/shows. the stock market is a beauty contest.
Just gonna leave out that bit about being at 350+ billion just two years ago huh? A company losing over half it's value in a short time span is not a good sign and no spin will say otherwise. This could just be a market adjustment from the over inflated value pre-covid, sure, but continued lack of trust in the brand is apparent in a continuing downward trend.
>Every accusation is a confession
What does circumcision have to do with grooming children into cutting their dicks off?
you’re right, glowie. everyone who knows what they’re talking about agrees disney is doing better than ever right now, and nothing is going wrong at all. Star Wars and the MCU are as popular and profitable as they were in the 2010s, and the $70 billion dollar purchase of Fox will surely be profitable any day now.
>hollywood
>infiltrated by israelites
uhhhh....who do you think RAN hollywood?
>They are paid based on he stock market
So.... profitability, market share, cash flow, etc., etc. have zero impact on their salaries? Idiot!
Also,
>he stock market
ESL cretin!
Holywood was created by the israelites.
It's also full of commies and homosexuals since forever.
And they made a good job running it until they decided to "diversify".
hollywood was always driven by nepotism but it's out of fricking control now
none of the shitty little stars they keep trying to push can fricking act
pajeets are doing this to tech right now
What's he gonna do when "Wish" bombs?
When I was a child, Disney was the colossus. It's incredible how they've destroyed themselves and their image, the company is less than a shadow of what it used to be.
Are you 70 years old?
It's also true for every other studios
I was born in 1989, when Little Mermaid came out. I spent my childhood during Disney's animation renaissance, so to me Disney was synonymous with amazing quality movies. They lost me with the shift to 3DCG, even if some of those films were okay, they just did not have the same feeling as the 2D ones, even the less successful ones that I still really liked.
I think Disney started to flounder badly when they started aggressively acquiring other studios. Pixar, Marvel, Lucas Film... they were bolstering their IP portfolio to make up for a lack of creative vision. It's obvious in retrospect, now.
>How could this have gone any different?
Uh making content people want to see without pissing them off.
You know...what Disney did for like 80 years
Simply impossible
>t. Bob Iger
Only because of your irrational hatred for white people
>Simply impossible
Difficult but not impossible.
A good part of the problem is that the studios are in NY and LA which are infested with dumbshit leftists. So all these zoomers and millennials look around and say "we all want woke stuff. Everyone we know want woke stuff. People on twitter want woke stuff". And the studios listened.
Problem is, a majority of people don't want woke stuff. They just want good stories they can relate to. They don't want politics either left or right. They want entertainment. How tf is this difficult to understand.
Because orange man bad
>They don't want politics either left or right
Don't accept this premise at all. Politics can be done well if it's thoughtful and committed to exploring various discourses. Even in escapist shit like superhero films, it can be, and has been done. The problem with Disneyslop is that it pretends to be "political" but it has no substance. The Little Mermaid is a perfect example because a black little mermaid could work if you actually had a story centered around it, but it doesn't! It's just like "hey, black people are here in this colonial little kingdom and everyone gets along, how quaint! Got a problem, chud?" It's just bizarre.
Looks like you got more deleting to do, you fatass fricking homosexual
their stock price is current below pre-covid numbers. they’ve lost all the gains they made when they printed trillions of dollars and everything inflated to the moon. in fact, if you look at the chart, their stock price is currently at the same level it was at the very bottom of the covid crash in spring 2020. so they are back down to where they were at the bottom of a stock market crash. meanwhile, the rest of the market (SPY) is up nearly DOUBLE where it was at the bottom of the covid crash. they are massively underperforming. it’s a humiliation.
just compare that chart to this one (the rest of the stock market)
Weird how Hollywood became massively profitable during the Great Depression as cheap escapism but now they keep releasing preachy bombs despite economic circumstances being not dissimilar.
God knows I wouldn’t want to come home from an office job where I’m forced to bend the knee to female HR psychopaths, incompetent diversity hire coworkers and every third day being a crepe-paper and motivational-postered celebration of some niche personality disorder masquerading as a sexuality, only to pay money to have to deal with the same fricking shit in the cinema or at home.
I tell ya hwat I have a completely different perspective on the bad guys in Schindlers List these days than I did when it first came out.
>9 year low
Grim.
Quitting after Endgame
I feel bad for Dinsey's CEO. I will therefore buy a cinema ticket and some merchandise for the next Disney (TM) motion picture at the next available opportunity
Kind regards,
A Considerate Consumer
I mean, I cant imagine movies have been all that big of a thing since Covid. Did he expect them all the bounce back to billion dollar hits? Like, who the hell even wants to go to a movie theater to pay 40 dollars to see a mediocre movie anymore?
>I cant imagine movies have been all that big of a thing since Covid
We've had multiple billion dollar box offices since Covid. People still absolutely show up to theaters for films if they're films people wanna see. People haven't wanted to see Disney's films for a while now. They reluctantly went to see Marvel or Star Wars films hoping for a return to form of earlier entries, but you can only be disappointed so many times before you stop bothering to meet Disney halfway.
I will pay $100 and take my whole family to see a movie if it's good. Too bad Disney doesn't know how to make those anymore
People like movies. Note that none of the post-covid movies breaking 1 billion are Disney. Spider-man was by Sony. None of their Marvel or Star Wars offerings have managed to get anywhere near the top of the box office for the last 3 years.
God. Super mario is considered a good movie now? Jesus frick.
Not to mention that bloated Avatar slop
Avatar 2 was prime waterkino homosexual.
It has brand recognition and people have an unnatural connection to Nintendo. The japs should have given the project to Animal Logic in Australia since that studio manages to make interesting films instead of slop for babies.
>TROS at 1 billion
I remember discussing how shit the sequels were in a bar with some friends years ago now, near when TLJ came out and was shit. I also distinctly remember agreeing that TROS would "just barely" break a billion thanks to Disney massaging it there. Now I look back and we may have been drunk, but we were prophets. Probably no different to many other people thinking the same thing at the time, but still.
Katzenberg was behind the disney renaissance and dreamworks's success following his Disney departure.
For years people tried to mock Jeffrey Katzenberg and Michael Eisner but they unironically understood that Disney was supposed to just have its space as a solid brand for children's entertainment, for children first and foremost.
Iger came from ABC and his whole thing was turning Disney into some kind of general entertainment Hollywood conglomerate. Chapek went even further and wanted to start presenting Disney in other completely unrelated sectors like tech and finance and shit.
publicly traded companies needing ever increasing profits are a mistake
there is only so much a company can do to increase profits before they have to expand into other industries, but the last step is the worst - when they have to cut costs to increase profits, which must come at the expense of the staff, product and customer
>b-but Barbie
Maybe the zoomer audience is ghosting the kinos.
>surprising flops
If you're surprised, you are disconnected from reality. These were all obviously going to flop.
>CEO is EXHAUSTED & overwhelmed
WON'T SOMONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CEOS
Eisner was the one who saved Disney and made its best era of kino
Deceptive Image full of deceit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_(1940_film)
look up the directors and writer
>getting this upset over cartoons for children
socialize IRL and fast
whites too busy overdosing on opioids and eating popeyes chicken sandwiches and collecting funkos to get a real job
Fixing Disney would actually be the easiest thing in the world, they just refuse to do it.
This. They know exactly what people want to see, they just refuse to do it for political reasons. Financial beatings will continue until morale improves
> why the hell don't plebs want to watch our homosexual brown washing movies
I certainly and genuinely hope whoever this “person” is kills themsleves disgracefully.
The thing about a "I lost the argument, I'll post this and run away" button is that it lets the guy who made you seethe know he beat you.
Nothing changes. Blackrock still bailing them out every single day
Does he know?
bros.... is our reactionary propaganda working??????? are we saved from white genocide?????
no, it will be like this in America the rest of our lives and get steadily steadily worse
They know why.
If I try to do a fricking kickflip and eat shit I know it's because I've never been on a skateboard on my life and really I have no fricking business being on one, shits obvious.
If they keep putting woke agendas to the forefront of movies and loose money WELL SHIT IT MUST BE FRICKING GHOSTS.
What the frick, shits obvious they have no business in that draw some pretty white princesses getting a prince make some money and shut the frick up
https://www.folger.edu/explore/shakespeares-works/romeo-and-juliet/read/
Wow conflating one instance as to the general means.
Read this I think it has a good message you should take on board.
Be better.
>He deleted his post
Just so everyone knows.
He posted some dumb shit that didn't matter
He basically said oh if I shit my pants everyone does.
Because he was being moronic, that's why he took it down but please understand why.
I saw it.
It’s a common nu-leftist fallacy that it’s better to have no standards of morality than it is to have standards but have some individuals who hold those standards be hypocrites.
I don’t care what Senator Frickhead (R) from buttfrickasota did. Maybe he’s a hypocrite but that doesn’t mean we all are.
If you wanna be a huge homosexual, go for it but keep it out of my life and away from little children.
The one thing James Rolfe had spot on that modern Hollywood can’t seem to fathom (or refuses to) was when he said basically, “when you guys watch my videos, you’re not here to think about politics or all the bad stuff going on in the world. My videos are here to give you some fun and escape from all that.”
Modern Hollywood “entertainment” is not entertaining because it isn’t mean to entertain you. It’s meant to CORRECT you.
The minute I read James Rolfe I got twisted trying to figure out who that was before I remembered the theme song.
just getting that out, but yes I 100% agree and I AM huge homosexual but obviously that's my business you don't care nor do you because hey that's my preference and even me bringing it up here is completely uncalled for no one asked no one cares.
And that's why exactly as you said the modern entrainment isn't entertaining by the reality that it isn't trying to entertain you it's trying to TELL you something.
What really gets to me is this is somehow put down liberals ......sure I concede the main propagators of this media are "liberal" but I'm not fricking claiming them, I'm embarrassed by them honestly and I can't even state that without suddenly being a nazi meanwhile we have all this shit telling us how to feel and be and somehow that's fine yeah that's not being a nazi.like can't we see what's happening?
I'm just exhausted and ranting blog post over, have a nice day thank you for at least talking and responding.
They obviously need a woman CEO, how can you have an m-she-u without one?
Hire that chick that did the bud light ad.
uh oh mr. Noseberg... looks like Mr. Larry Fink's goybucks aren't enough to keep the lights on! time to get back to wageslaving
Any argument against me nevermind how you feel just her I'm the dude popping off on you fake liberals?
You wanna come back?
I can't be fricked checking this honestly I'm gonna close the tab
>Just her
No feet pics.
Just here* didn't get enough typing of the dead obviously
>surprising box office failures
>surprising
They CANNOT be this out of touch, can they?