How did an intelligent critique of the comic book industry get turned into "White Man Bad: The TV Show"?
How did an intelligent critique of the comic book industry get turned into "White Man Bad: The TV Show"?
How did an intelligent critique of the comic book industry get turned into "White Man Bad: The TV Show"?
seth rogan
Who owned the ships, Seth? Who ran the trade?
It was never very intelligent
>its unintelligent because it has sex and edgy humor
Grow up
>Last issue's cover is a picture of all the superheroes flying into a toilet
Only one here who needs to grow up is you OP
The plot of the boys is one of the most moronic things ever printed in comics. Its a War on Terror political commentary is more on the nose than Lil' Bush. The entire convoluted mess of story culminates with "uh actually the Millitary already had a bunch of anti-homelander ICBMs laying around and The Boys didnt know despite working for the Govt because uhh"
The comic sucks though. That’s like the one universally agreed upon thing
There's a wave of newbies trying to pretend that hating the comic is only a recent redditor invention
Ah, like hating the Star Wars Prequels being only a RLM invention.
But, why though?
Contrarianism is a hell of a drug. Imagine being so desperate to stand out and set yourself apart from the herd that you just reflexively take the opposite stance from popular opinion on any issue, even ones that are just common sense.
>Grow up
How about you fricking have a nice day
This is you
That was a joke tweet made by a shitposter you dumb moron
moronic comic read by moronic people
The Boys is many things, but it's commentary is not particularly intelligent. It's strongest writing is in its characters, but the actual plots and commentary are pretty basic. It's in its daring to actually get DC to print any of this, and then get kicked out because of that, that makes it "seem" intelligent. Because no one else was making this kind of edgy commentary on the industry. Not because it was hard to come up with, but because most simply wouldn't dare.
> It's in its daring to actually get DC to print any of this, and then get kicked out because of that, that makes it "seem" intelligent.
It was kicked because Paul Levitz told Garth Ennis that DC parodies were fair game but don't involve Marvel's ones. When Ennis broke down that promise they let him go.
>intelligent critique of the comic book industry
Anon it's Ennis.
Post one page from the Boys containing intelligent critique of the comic book industry.
I'm not even saying the comic really sucks, it's just that even if you enjoy it (I 50/50 here) and agree with it's stance of capeshit (I totally do), it's still unquestionably much dumber than an average greentext thread on /b/.
the tv show is genuinely more entertaining then the comic
Nope. The show is unwatchable.
SO BRAVE!!! SO TRUE!!! YOU SHOW THOSE GREASY MAN-CHILDREN! YOU TELL THOSE NAIVE FOOLS! THE REAL WORLD IS DARK AND GRITTY AND REALISTIC NOT LIKE THOSE SILLY COMICS!!! COMIC BOOKS SHOULD HAVE MORE RAPE AND TORTURE IN THEM!!! SO BRAVE!!!
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Shouldn't have made me laugh yet here we are.
It's the same capeshit, the supervillains are just dressed as 80s caped do-gooders and the heroes are dressed as 2000s tacticool supers. This ain't Marshal Law, kiddo.
>The Boys
>Intelligent
>intelligent
It was never, it was just edgy and grotesque with an occasional surface level jab at Hollywood.
see, wanted was similarly edgy but it took it's stupidity much less seriously. Yes, they had a character who was a shapeshifter made of poop, but it was a fairly straightforward dark power fantasy. The Boys fully believes it's own dumb ideas.
>The Boys
>Intelligent critique
>The Boys
>Intelligent
>The Boys
>A critique of anything
Christ I know the weekends are bad when all the dumbass school boys get a chance to shitpost but goddamn OP is especially moronic
because everything eventually gets turned into "White Man Bad: The TV Show"
>you like Professor X huh
>well I made a parody that's a pedo bet you feel stupid now huh
>you like superman huh
>well I made a character who has superman's powers but he's a baby eater I bet you feel real silly now
Yes you ARE stupid for liking super man and professor x. Thats the whole point. It rips the corporate mask off and forces you to see how stupid this shit is. The edgy and stupid shit in The Boys is a mirror being held up to the greasy comic book virgins like you and saying "this is how everyone else sees the stupid shit you like. Grow up"
>Yes you ARE stupid for liking super man and professor x
whats wrong with liking the idea of a fictional character?
Because this shit was created in the sixtys to keep little kids entertained. At some point you need to move on. Might as well ask whats wrong with watching barney as an adult.
These capeshitter dont even have characters. they are written by hundreds of different people and their characters change to fit whatever dollar the editors are currently chasing
Why are you on a comic and cartoon board if you're so mature?
>Because this shit was created in the sixtys to keep little kids entertained.
it was created in the 30s you fricking fetus
Not only that, he was created to subvert the status quo of "super powered people are always le evil! Good men have no powers and only God is allowed powers!"
>could stop every crime one earth
>doesn't
Superman is evil
> Might as well ask whats wrong with watching barney as an adult.
Hiya Lee, how’s it going?
Hi Garth Penis.
I doubt even Ennis thinks the comic was intelligent
But Garth Ennis unironically loves Superman despite hating capes. Even someone as depressing and jaded as Garth has a soft spot for The Man of Steel, a perfect beacon of all things good and pure.
>Hey here's my comic where Aragorn son of Arathorn is an inbred psychopath who goes around middle earth raping under age bar maids and beating Hobbits to death and gets killed by my cool Orc OCs to show all those LOTR nerds what their shitty book would be like if it was realistic
That's just Game of Thrones
>My greasy virgin ass is so much smarter than all you greasy virgins, hurrrr
Get over yourself
>you like Professor X huh
>well I made a parody that's a pedo bet you feel stupid now huh
It was Bryan Singer mostly. Go ahead and look up the first Pyro on the X-Men 2000.
I think you just answered your own question.
The Boys comic and show are awful. The show at least has some good performances
>The Boys
>intelligent critique
>the boys
>intelligent
I mean something both the comic and show actually have in common is that they're fairly blunt and unsubtle about what they're mocking.
I like The Boys way more than most anons on here, but it's definitely not intelligent.
The comic is still better than the show, though. That's just a fact.
>The comic is still better than the show, though. That's just a fact.
US military just slaughters all the bad supes in the end with minimal effort. There were never any stakes to begin with.
>That scene where six guys show up in a helicopter and kill 300 supes in thirty seconds without breaking a sweat
And we're expected to believe that these superheroes took over the Pentagon?
>the superheroes "taking over" was the climax of the story
It's like you guys didn't even read it. It's not like the Boys had a particularly subtle theme either. Here's a hint: the problem was never that the supers were ever actually going to take over or change anything.
This wasn't the type of comic to comment on the status quo
>How did an intelligent critique of the comic book industry
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>intelligent
>intelligent
>How did an intelligent critique of the comic book industry
ahem
>supes bad!
such a nuanced story
>How did an intelligent critique of the comic book industry
Anon, you better come off your high horse and explain how the Boys comic is
A. A satire of the comic book industry
B. A intelligent satire in general
Because honestly, The show does political satire of our current age of celebrity culture and consumerism in its first 2 seasons way better then the comic EVER did for the Bush era.
Despite the OP being obvious bait, this thread really brought out the resident morons.
>The show does political satire of our current age of celebrity culture and consumerism
I've never watched it, but that's easier to pull off than ragging on the military-industrial complex.
A) Not that anon, but wasn't there a character in the comics that was explicitly a comic artist that helped make capes popular and make Voight successful despite it producing nothing of value?
B) Good thing you used the word intelligent, because it definitely is satire.
Not really. Vought has real life superheroes, that's what made them so popular in the comic scene. Homelander would 'save' a bunch of children and then there would be a comic about him saving a bunch of children. Eventually, as the heroes become more and more unhinged, the comics are used as PR to try and justify why Homelander punched someone in half.
It does have a real message about the dangers of celebrity worship, but this is ancillary to the theme of Ennis' irrational hatred of superheroes
>It does have a real message about the dangers of celebrity worship
Does it though?
>irrational
>intelligent critique of the comic book industry
lmao
>Intelligent
>The Boys
This has to be bait right?
The Boys was basically Garth Ennis making a bunch of gay jokes while his generic super cool OCs killed barely legally distinct superheroes.
It was about as smart as Family Guy at it's worst.
And Crossed was an intelligent critique of the zombie genre and human nature right?
because "White Man Bad" is an intelligent critique of real life
I know we like to rip on The Boys and Ennis when he goes overly violent and dumb, but the one arc with Super Duper, despite its toilet humour, was actually really well thought out not just from a storytelling point of view, but the ideas and emotions it transmits.
Ennis has really good ideas, but often buries them in figurative and literal shit. The question is how much shit is on top. Like his Punisher, which is generally shit free.
For every "Professor X is a pedo," you do get some genuine characters with genuine ideas to boot.
(And for every tard calling Homelander a baby eater, actually read the comic.)
>we
It's just post-show newbies. Cinemaphile generally liked Ennis until recent years and I don't even like The Boys all that much, neither shitty show nor comic.
I dunno. Even before the show, I seem to recall that the consensus was 'Ennis' Hitman and Punisher is the only really good thing he's made. Preacher and the Boys are okay at best if you can handle the tone. Also just ignore Crossed entirely.'
I'll agree that Super Duper is probably one of the better arcs in The Boys, but in my opinion, it didn't go far enough and the way Super Duper lost, like, sixty IQ between chapters and turned into a bunch of drooling morons kind of felt like Ennis realized that he'd accidently made a 'good' superhero team and backpedaled super hard to 'oh, but it's because they're clinically moronic.'
People generally liked Ennis' war comics and Fury: My War Gone By threads were nothing but positive. I admit stuff like The Boys, Crossed or Pro are among his worse works, but it's only in the recent years people started actively shitting on Ennis and pretending he's the worst writer ever.
He's someone who works best when he's restricted.
>I seem to recall that the consensus was 'Ennis' Hitman and Punisher is the only really good thing he's made
I hadn't seen much discussion of the Boys comic before the show came along, aside from one story time that had most of the posters genuinely enthused.
it was storytimed somewhat regularly before the show
I want to FRICK Emma until she smiles.
>White Man Bad: The TV Show
No, you just see yourself as Homelander
>intelligent critique of the comic book industry
That really doesn't describe The Boys.
Ennis just thinks dicks are funny. There's really nothing more to it than that.
I always found it odd how subversive israelites are, even to each other. DC & Marvel's major characters were created by israelites yet the tribe can't help themselves to subvert their own creations, even if it loses money or makes no sense IRL or storywise.
>an intelligent critique of the comic book industry
>could have easily made it a parody of super hero media
>nope lets just criticize celebrities
why every show already does that
>get turned into "White Man Bad: The TV Show"?
it was always that from the start
are you not familiar with israeli hollywood
>intelligent critique
?
>TFW you’re too stupid to understand the satire of the Boys TV show