How did ATLA get such a shitty sequel when it was written by the same people who created the original story?
Is this how Star Wars fans felt after watching the prequels?
How did ATLA get such a shitty sequel when it was written by the same people who created the original story?
The creators were high off their own success and lost Ehasz touch + nickelodeons "one villain arc per season" felt so inorganic
also I want to frick Korra and eat her pussy
tbf it's not like Ehasz went on to make anything ATLA-tier either. The Dragon Prince is arguably even worse than Korra
It looks like Ehasz needed someone to keep his autism in check. His ideas for ATLA S4 was basically Zuko playing a psychotherapist for Azula and Aang. Anyway, trying to pin down one single person responsible for the success of a franchise is usually futile.
From what I understand the mains points on why the dragon prince is a mediocre show is because like you said Ehasz needed someone else to balance his bad ideas since he had some great ones but some others that are kinda shit.
They also got fricked by the short time of each episode from Netflix and with the fact that they were thinking that they had more seasons to tell their story but then they didn't know if they would be renewed after season 3 so they had to quickly scrap all the plot points of Xadia being evil and had to make Viren the only villain which was a shame since they had a great idea in the beginning.
Then after season 3 and during the 3 years of wait for season 4 Ehasz was accused of being misogynist and sued from the woman who worked on the social account of the show,which ended with him being found innocent, but he still had to promote another female writer,Devon, has the new head writer to placate the bad rep that he had gained,which in the end fricked up everything since she has the most terrible take for this show that I have ever heard and fricked up the main relationship of Callum and Rayla in an outside comic which it's still haven't recovered after two seasons
I'm baffled everytime I think about the fact that she made Rayla leave Callum on his birthday after lying to him,she then disappeared for two years without contact for no reason and during this time she found zero evidence or clue on where Viren or Claudia where and then she just made Rayla comeback without ever try to apologize or try to discuss why she did it to Callum and then she even stole from him,lied to him again and not even told him about the magic coins for no reason
After all that Devon still insist that Callum is in the wrong to not forgive her immediately and since she always wanted a man to always forgive her no matter what she did and since she self insert has Rayla she then made Callum in season 5 be a doormat
So many good ideas that were squandered
It's why good editors are as important, if not even more important than the main creative body. Many writers have the ability to create both amazing things but don't have enough self-awareness to realize when they've made pure shite. I don't really like reading interviews or behind the scenes stuff but the few I've seen or head of you can just see how much the editorial contribute to some of the best aspects of a piece of media and much bad ideas they can filter. And the worst is usually editors get a bad rep and little to no acknowledgement.
>The Dragon Prince is arguably even worse than Korra
I liked the first three seasons and he gave us a great elf waifu, so there's that.
>genociding all humans is... good actually 😀
This show was so fricking weird
I assumed the writers knew the villain was SO obviously right that they'd eventually have to acknowledge it, but instead they just kept pretending that he was evil until eventually I gave up watching
>thick hot brown femMC
I love tlok
NEED
Great character design. Awful character.
She wasn't born too bright bec
>also I want to frick Korra and eat her pussy
Amen.
Your head would pop like a ripe tomato between her thighs.
>nutted but she still suckin
>How did ATLA get such a shitty sequel when it was written by the same people who created the original story?
It was not, two guys who created ATLA wrote it up, but the main writer they hired to write ATLA was kicked out of the writing team due to creative differences.
GREENLIT, take your shitty cartoon back to Cinemaphile
>when it was written by the same people who created the original story?
The actual talented writer left and made a gay netflix show instead. He is also not good on his own.
But all three together were lightning in a bottle. They all complimented each other.
It literally wasn't even that bad, it was great even. Interesting characters and great fights. If it was made today it would be more pozzed 100%. I don't get the hate.
>1920s NYC
It was bad.
every great stroy draws from recycled inspiration, give me a better criticism
Yeah but that's not my point, literally 1920s New York City of all things, the 1920s larp was lame.
and the orignals was literally imitating Buddhism. All great stories draw from each other. If you don't think korra vs kuveira was cool your a gay.
Damn no shit? I thought it was obvious Atla took inspiration from various cultures, different dynasties, and eastern myths.1920s NYC was still lame and I understand where Bryke where coming from with it but it really would've been better if it was one of the ideas they put off.
>korra vs kuveira
I stopped watching lok consistently around that time so I won't say I don't like it.
You were filtered, which is crazy considering how good the Amon arc was.
I liked amon and s1 mostly but I remember disliking s2, continued onto a few episodes of s3 and I stopped watching. I think what I disliked most was the attempt to recreate the group dynamics of atla without knowing how they worked by having the LoK group have their own Momo, Appa, and Sokka.
If they didn't ruin him with the shitty plot twist, Amon would've arguably been better than ATLA villains.
>um ackshually this guy is a blood bender with daddy issues
You're the only filtered moron here, lmao.
>calls others filtered while shilling a villain that got ruined by a shitty sequel
Kek, how can you be this much of a delusional moron
kino?
>changes mood from "haha yay we're together again :D" to quietly shedding tears in like 10 seconds
Christ, you can really tell how sloppy and rushed the writing is.
How do morons genuinely defend this garbage, lmao.
"Crisis of the season" approach ruined it to be quite tbh. The entire original series is dedicated to the overarching quest to kick Ozai in the balls, while here we have Major Horrible Happenings Threatening The World happening one after another each season.
>1920s NYC
moron, Republic Cuty was based off Shanghai during the Golden Decade
They took influence from nyc too, they even had their own statue of liberty. https://korranation.tumblr.com/post/18502869960/development-art-of-the-avatar-aang-statue-by
Oh also
>"We just really wanted it to look like - what if Manhattan had happened in Asia, or something. But we still wanted to incorporate some of those influences from American and European architecture, from part of the 1920s and a little bit earlier. It’s just what we always do: we pull in influences from different sources, and try to get them to work in the Avatar world. And then, the mountains that surround Republic City were influenced by the Canadian Rockies. The idea was that Republic City was in a setting sort of like where Vancouver is"
https://web.archive.org/web/20130926150624/http://drawless.tumblr.com/post/25703110186/transcript-of-responses-to-fan-questions-about-the
which is really idiotic, because there is no Europe equivalent from where those influences to come from
Eeh it's not the worst thing, taking influence from more western stuff but rather how blatant it was. Like they really couldn't think of anything better than statue of liberty but Aang? Having a statue in honor of Aang isn't even a bad idea but they should've played around with the location other than it being right outside the city.
Even atla pulled influence from other cultures other than asian, the sun warriors had SOME(but not entirely) Aztec influence.
>give me a better criticism
That is genuine criticism. The original series took place in a world with an ancient asiatic setting in which people use magic powers to get around in their day-to-day life. Then the sequel randomly gets westernized and has multiple devicds from the industrial revolution that have nothing to do with bending. One of the main plot devices in the first part of Korra is how benders are naturally better off than normal people, even though the new setting clearly favors non-benders.
It's a complete shift in tone and shits on what the original story was trying to portray. How are you so much of a moron that you can't understand that?
>It literally wasn't even that bad,
No, it was genuine garbage, and you're kind of an idiot if you can't see why.
>Interesting characters
Wtf are you talking about? What interesting characters? All villains are ass, Korra is an unlikable moron, and all character interactions were so boring and forgettable that they had to shove in a lesbian relationship at the very end of the show to stir up controversy, because that was the only way this show wouldn't be forgotten by the masses.
Literally every arc of korra is explained through eastern mysticism. Zaheer, Amon, Suyin and Desna and Esna. Korra was a fricking baddie and atleast most of her emotions were relatable ,again i ask for legitimate criticism
>Literally every arc of korra is explained through eastern mysticism.
You mean aside from the part where they revealed that the Avatar is Jesus and their purpose is to fight Satan?
we don't talk about season 2
Second half of season 2 was probably my favorite part of the show. Loved all the spirit world stuff.
I don't know how to put this softly, so I will say it as is.
you have objectively garbage taste.
And I could say the exact same thing to you.
>muh asian satan
>muh dark avatar
>muh ten thousand years of DANKNESS
>jinora fixing it all out of fricking nowhere, not even the creators bothered trying to explain that one
>muh relatable
That's not a good trait. And even if it was, I can't relate to a sociopathic tumblrita moron who resorts to anger and violence to get whatever she wants.
>Literally every arc of korra is explained through eastern mysticism
I didn't even mention it that time
>Literally every arc of korra is explained through eastern mysticism
Symbolism doesn't write good stories, Just admit you're horny for Korra dude, no one here is gonna judge you for that.
i want to correct korra
>ywn feel the differences between the soft and hard areas of her young skin and muscles, going from her shoulder blades to forearms down to her abs
>ywn look into her hypnotizing blue eyes
>ywn smell her after a workout at the gym
>ywn reach down her pants and feel her lazily trimmed bush, wirey black hairs
>ywn cook noodles for her while she bounces moronic political ideas off of you
>ywn have passionate sex with her underneath fur blankets, her thighs wrapped around you like a boa constrictor
I have spoken
Great till the bush part. At least make them soft.
they're soft and straight, like that of an asian girl
>How did ATLA get such a shitty sequel
Probably because ATLA itself is 5/10 at the very best.
Never understood the hate. I watched both shows back to back and it's pretty much just more of the same, but in a more modern setting. Feels like one of those sequels that's not quite as good as the masterpiece before it, therefore people act like it's the worst thing ever.
this guy gets it
>nuanced, realistic take on 4chins
Miraculous
Korra had pretty fight scenes, that's about it.
Seriously whoever is in charge of the choreography (is it still called choreography if it's animated?) should be proclaimed Emperor of somewhere
But the characters and writing were abysmal.
>it's pretty much just more of the same, but in a more modern setting
It really isn't the same. Even if you ignore the moronic new setting, you can tell the new characters (both the protagonists and the villains) are much worse and less interesting than ATLA's cast, the world building is a lot shittier, the pace of each episode is pretty dreadful and it constantly destroys all the interesting lore that ATLA had.
Unless you're a braindead moron who just gawks at high-budget animation, there really isn't anything you can praise the legend of korra for.
No, you're literally just braindead morons with awful taste, lmao.
The thing the kills me the most is how much worse the fight scenes are, it takes until like mid season 3 until they get close to being as good as in the ATLA.
Nice to see that not everyone on this site is completely devoid of good taste.
thank you i literally started spraying shit everywhere when an anon called 'umm its ok i guess just like atla' a 'nuanced take'
None of the 4 villains can beat Azula.
>Feels like one of those sequels that's not quite as good as the masterpiece before it, therefore people act like it's the worst thing ever.
Not quite. The bigger sin is that it had all the ingredients to make something great, but actively sabotaged itself.
Korra suffered from a serious lack of planning. Most people generally like the first season. It's the second season that crushes it because they didn't think the show would be renewed.
korra is genuinely one of the worst protagonists I've ever seen
>it was written by the same people who created the original story
Not all the writers from ATLA returned, including the head writer, who was pretty much the biggest contributor to ATLA being as great as it is. Also the George Lucas effect where Brike got to do whatever the hell they wanted with little to no pushback, even from the notoriously cut-throat Nickelodeon, because of their previous success.
>Look Lisa, you can actually pin point the moment that SJW took over and suddenly every character became a lesbian for no disernable reason
>no disernable reason
If you were watching as it aired, Korrasami was the biggest meme in the community. The fact that you gays have retconned it into some le woke pandering and not an inside-joke from creators who were openly browsing and discussing the show on tumblr as it aired is kinda funny.
Why did the Fire Nation genocide the Air Nation?
it might've just been a very thinly-veiled "Free Tibet" message that was sorta in pop culture at the time (though it makes less sense because the fire nation are japs not chinks)
Realistically speaking:
1) ATLA was not as good as we remember it or we have nostalgia glasses shielding us from the awful bits
2) There was a certain amount of self-control and editing when it came to worst excesses for the first series, because they were more desperate to make it work and get wealthier out of it.
It's the same for Star Wars too. The original trilogy is not that good either, but it's better than the prequels because everyone was actually trying to make money out of it at that point.
>1) ATLA was not as good as we remember it or we have nostalgia glasses shielding us from the awful bits
Aside from the ending asspull, the show was consistently excellent
>1) ATLA was not as good as we remember it or we have nostalgia glasses shielding us from the awful bits
This is true for those who watched when it originally aired but it's not nostalgia for those who watched it on netflix for the first time, I'll admit it's not perfect and book 3 is my least favorite.
>hot girl who has sex with an even hotter girl
Korra was good.
Spoken like a truly brainless npc with burned dopamine receptors.
Get off the SSRIs. Once your dick starts working again you’ll be much happier. Also Korra is probably the most realistically written teenage girl to ever appear in children’s media. Korra good.
Sorry chuds, but you're not taking lesbians away from us. Go complain about trannies or whatever, but hot lesbians have always been and will always be based.
Agreed but only if it's submissive Korra with dominant Asami. Anything else is gaygogry
Go back to resetera.
impeccable taste
You will never reproduce.
Both true.
bisexual
First season was pretty good. But making every season a different thing ruined it overall.
Also Avatar always had multiple writers every season.
The chad Korra enjoyer:
>Calm, reasonable and open to criticism as long as it's fair
The virgin Korra hater:
>Angry, spiteful and dismisses all other opinions with insults and buzzwords
>open to criticism as long as it's fair
Are you implying it isn't fair to criticize the entire plot, virtually every character and the complete destruction of the world/mythos?
You haven't been able to rebuke any sort of criticism in this thread.
It’s hard to make something good. Succeeding once doesn’t necessarily mean you can do it again.
One of the worst things about Korra in my eyes was the tone. The original was clearly for children, and yet they tackled serious issues through the eyes of children with great aplomb.
Korra feels like it’s /trying/ to appeal to an older audience, but paradoxically is less mature and nuanced.
The chad Korra hater:
>Isn't a troony.
The virgin Korra enjoyer:
>Is a troony
>trannies out of nowhere
I use to wonder why incels insisted on self-inserting as the main character in every piece of media they consume.
Finally I came to the conclusion that their lives are so miserable they have to disassociate from reality as often as possible to keep from killing themselves.
Very sad.
troony confirmed
I don't know why I keep on clicking on these avatar threads
They probably wanted to spice it up and try something different. So new characters and a new setting. Each season is kinda self contained so it feels less epic in scope and more monster of the week. Soft retconning the lore didn't help either.
I think a miniseries set in between the two with an adult aang doing stuff might've helped bridge the gap more organically. It's kind of jarring to jump in where aang and sokka died off screen and now everything is skyscrapers instead of mudhuts
Imagine the smell.
Avatar the Last Airbender is Danny Phantom tier enertainment
I agree
Danny Phantom doesn't get the love it deserves..
>ywn have cute airbender gf
Jews.
>everything I don't like is israelites or trannies
I hope you guys get some new material in 2024, because this got old a long time ago.