how did denis villeneuve manage to keep getting Hollywood gigs after his first two commercial failures?
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how did denis villeneuve manage to keep getting hollywood gigs after his first two commercial failures?
It's more confusing on how he's still getting work, with 2049 bombing and Dune barely being profitable.
eh, looks like those two movies still made investors money
2049 made no money at all, it lost money.
Dune made a bit of money.
But you fail to understand, these $150+ million movies aren't supposed to barely make money, investors expect big returns, otherwise it wasn't a good investment.
>2049 lost money
that's not what picrel from wikipedia says
Yes it does. You need to make at least twice your budget to break even. Minimum. Sometimes you need to make more than twice the budget, but 2049 didn't have a huge marketing push, so it's safe to assume only twice the budget.
1st 2 were probably at least partially State-funded and made some money back in the festival circuit, cable, tv etc
The 1st Kubrick (Fear and Desire), PTA (Hard Eight) and Nolan (Following) movies perhaps didn't make much either.
>You need to make at least twice your budget to break even.
This is a reddlt assumption/urban legend. Accounting and profitability vary on a case by case basis.
>This is a reddlt assumption/urban legend. Accounting and profitability vary on a case by case basis.
It's time you shut your fricking mouth, moron.
What part of case by case is your midwit mindset struggling with? Never mind the fact that there are other sources of revenue that didn't exist when dvd sales were important, only gullible types who pretend to know what they're talking about brandish this "rule" as if there aren't dozens of possible cases in which it doesn't apply. Hollywood is fooling you, you imbecile
>What part of case by case is your midwit mindset struggling with
The part where you ignore someone with 30 years of movie making experience, telling you exactly how much a movie costs.
>Hollywood is fooling you, you imbecile
Right, some random moron on Cinemaphile knows more about movie making, than actual people who make movies.
You're too stupid to even grasp that ONE example doesn't cover the entirety of Hollywood accounting methods and the industry has since adapted to these changes? The "profit equation" has ZERO basis in reality, it's a piece of information that keeps being parroted by people who want to pretend they know what they're talking about you naive dimwit.
Here, educate yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting
>Right, some random moron on Cinemaphile knows more about movie making, than actual people who make movies.
>current year+7
>Still trusting ~~*Hollywood*~~ accounting
>hurrdurr in 20 years you can recover the money and then is pure profit
Dude, the israelite wants to recover the money at the 3rd month and start making another movie with that profit. It doesnt matter if eventually makes money. Thats not how modern capitalism works.
stop fighting and post villeneuve kino
>villeneuve kino
Picrel.
>This is a reddlt assumption/urban legend
>Theater chains work for free lmao you fricking moron, do you think the studio gets 100% of the ticket? Thats not even entering the discussion about marketing. The theater takes a cut sometimes as big as 50%.
Hollywood LIES. It lies about the budget (movies usually cost less than what's divulged-- note that these are usually unofficial and ultimately hearsay) and it lies about profit calculations and estimates.
The amount of tax tricks/write-offs studios pull is beyond average assumptions. That's even before going into outright money laundering schemes.
>You need to make at least twice your budget to break even.
wow lmao ESL? wtf do you think "even" means?
moron, the studio doesn't get 100% of the ticket money. In some regions it's 80%, in others it's 50%, and then in others - it's something like 30%. Cinemas, regional distrubutors and govt's(taxes) get their slice.
And then there's marketing costs, which aren't part of the production burger either.
That's where the 2-3x the production budget estimate comes from.
Blade Runner 2049
>Budget: $150–185 million[6][7][8]
>Box office: $259.3 million[9]
It was objectively a flop. It's unironically thanks to Cinemaphile that people still meme about it
I guess the modern capeshit addled brain can’t handle a movie like 2049. Too much complex shit like themes
I though it was a bit to slow. Like nothing really happens
How does someone make Prisoners and then a load of utter garbage, fluke?
by doing the same he did when he made Prisoners.
Prisoners is over hyped, it stole the ending from Spoorlos
Sicario is better.
t. fan of both
because he's a talented director
Because he gets good reviews.
He's based.
wtf i didnt know denis is so based?
probably Canadian public funding.
It's this, canadian media funding without a wide release
lot of low budget shit may only get released to 5 theaters and they money in the secondary market
holy frick, except for indencdies and blade runner every movie on there is trash
2049 was an absolute flop but they still allowed him to direct DUNC. He must have some connections because not only he's a hack, his remakes and sequels are garbage compared to the originals
2049 is better than the first in every single way
it's time to stop pretending it's not in a shit attempt to fit in, you homosexual zoomer
Because he’s Canadian
Why is there no budget listed for enemy?
Polytechnique is a good film, but you probably dont understanding any other than box office numbers.
i love his aesthetics bros
Polytechnique is a 2009 Canadian drama film directed by Denis Villeneuve and written by Villeneuve and Jacques Davidts. Starring Maxim Gaudette, Sebastien Huberdeau, and Karine Vanasse, the film is based on the 1989 École Polytechnique massacre (also known as the "Montreal Massacre") and re-enacts the events of the incident through the eyes of two students (Huberdeau and Vanasse) who witness a gunman (Gaudette) murder fourteen young women.
After a release in Quebec in February 2009, it was featured in the 2009 Cannes Film Festival. It received numerous honours, including nine Genie Awards, notably Best Motion Picture.
it was a political movie made for awards and backpats, wasn't meant to make money
he's one of the few guys that still cares about how the film fricking looks
let him make more
how come his works never get posted on those god-tier cinematography threads?
>how come his works never get posted on those god-tier cinematography threads?
No one posting here actually understands movies, how the frick would they know what good cinematography is?
Speak for yourself. BTW BR 2049's cinematography is superb and the Oscar Deakins got for it was very well-deserved.
almost dream-like
source?
Denis ~~*Villeneuve*~~
When I saw this scene, I felt a sense of awe I hadn't felt since the original jurassic park
I watched it on my phone so I didn't get that
Is it people's first week in Cinemaphile? How do you not know what metrics a movie is judged to be successful by?
How do you
1)suppose that you know? (let me guess: you read it on the internet)
2)assume that there's only one such metric instead of several ones according to the production's specific financial etc details?
BR 2047 objectively flopped, but studio admitted that they fricked the marketing. Also Ridley Scott really liked it, and he threw his weight around to give Villeneuve a go at any project of his choosing anyways.
source: an interview I read around the time Dune was first announced
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