It feels like he hasn’t been culturally relevant since Endgame. And no one cares about him anymore. I thought he would be among Batman, Superman and Spider-Man.
How did go back to being a C-lister so quickly?
It feels like he hasn’t been culturally relevant since Endgame. And no one cares about him anymore. I thought he would be among Batman, Superman and Spider-Man.
Simply not being in movies. Comics-wise his runs have been just as meandering as they were before RDJ, for some reason very few people know how to write this character, much less consistently over an entire run.
Not a good character.
Actually he should be the most relevant character to today's times
Just needs good writers
AI and advanced tech are always being discussed, if only we had a sci-fi hero to fully explore these concepts in a changing world.
Marvel doesn't allow things to change as much as they should, "world outside your window" and all that bullshit has been going on for decades, unless of course it's so far removed that it doesn't interfere with Earth affairs, like most of cosmic Marvel, otherwise all of the science geniuses could have turned Marvel Earth into a utopia, or potentially a dystopic hellhole, so all the super science stuff comes off merely as quaint rather than anything impactful.
Marvel's excuse for it is at least more believable than DC
Superheroes are paid by tech companies to not rape them into bankruptcy in Marvel, in DC Superman is just a c**t who believes that doing anything more than stopping Purse snatchers is playing god
Can't believe Reed Richards sold out to Big pharma and their insulin racket.
Comic worlds aren't supposed to be shitty in the way our world is. Otherwise every inventor would suddenly commit suicide, and every mutant would be in a lab getting an autopsy.
But that’s boring. Making it just like our world with ALL of the unfortunate implications that go with it makes things much more interesting.
If I wanted to read about corpo dragging the world down with them for short term gain and blackmailing bright inventor with fabricated crimes, I would read the press
No, he is a boring character. That's a problem Marvel suffers. Characters with good potential but aren't somehow interesting enough
last I remember anybody talking about him, he was going back to older armors (including the rollerskates) and was dating Z-list Marvel heroine Hellcat.
I'm guessing things have changed since.
He's attached to the X-Men comics and he's married to Emma Frost.
A fate I would not wish on my worst ennemy.
The same thing happened to Blade after the Wesley Snipes movies
This is why it’s important to keep these characters in the public consciousness. If they’re not in anything for too long, they get forgotten. If not a movie, then a AAA video game should keep the public aware until the next movie comes out.
Movies =/= comic sales, let alone comic relevance.
The comic audience is barely a tick of the general audience for movies, and normal moviegoers aren't going to buy post-movie comics.
Batman movies were NOT the thing driving Batman comic sales.
I wasn’t talking about comics, dude. They don’t matter.
disney hate marvel comics and loves bad writers
Because nobody cared about Iron Man. They cared about RDJ.
He’s a great character concept
But contrary to what the movies felt like he was never popular. Cap neither. Both sold gangbusters but that’s because their movies and movie versions were popular, not the platonic character themselves like with Supes and Bats and Hulk and Spider-man.
Supes and Bats couldn’t be LESS popular in the movies than they are now, their movies are really unpopular and mocked, but they will forever be famous characters because they’ve been the most famous for basically a century straight. The MCU was a shortlived phenomenon.
I thought people liked The Batman.
>It feels like he hasn’t been culturally relevant since Endgame
And what happened in Endgame?
JUST LET PRIEST WRITE THAT SERIES HE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO
he had good and interesting runs in the last 26 years, but not a single great run since 80s.
People liked RDJ in cool CGI armor, they never gave a shit about Iron Man.
You know RDJ was considered a wash-up before iron man, right?
Only because of his personal life, as an actor he knocked it out of the park and revived his own career in the process.
Yes, thanks to iron man.
Batman and Spider-Man have iconic villains like Joker or Doc Ock, and stories everyone knows like The Killing Joke, or The Death of Gwen Stacy. Iron Man has none of that, except that one time he was an alcoholic, which is more of a meme, and has absolutely nothing to do with how Tony Stark was portrayed in the MCU.
Iron Man might as well have not existed before Downey Jr., and his modern comics are ass anyway (like all modern comics).
In general I would say he reflect well how Marvel completly failed to ride the thunder of the MCU (while still shitting up the comics thanks to poorly made synergy).
>muh movie boost comic sales
It never worked. Better yet, it never worked for long.
People like to say it did with the likes of Batman or the X-Men, but they were already huge when their hit movies came out. If anything them being popular already is the reason why the movies were made in the first place.
The contrary never works: see MiB.
this. different medium for that reason liveaction should go to Cinemaphile always and not in Cinemaphile.
Should’ve marketed Doom as his nemesis. Maybe even have Tony team up with Strange and Spidey to fight him.
He never moved from where he stood after Extremis.
nothing compared to what happened to other characters once the movies were over, like Blade.
No truly memorable Rogues except maybe The Mandarin.
None of the attempts at reviving or reinventing the character actually make any beneficial changes.
>I thought he would be among Batman, Superman and Spider-Man.
He is. What you don't understand is the masses don't actually know or enjoy capes, which is why shit like Spider-Verse and MCU and Playstation Spider-Man have any audience at all despite being garbage hate letters. There's just an absence of astroturfed shit product featuring Tony to consume at the moment, that's all.
Yes, and no. This may be anecdotal, but Iron Man and Captain America were for a very long time those kind of cape comics that were good but not great. Like, you'd remember them more for their adventures with the Avengers not cause their own comics were written terribly, but mostly cause none of their own storylines particularly stuck out beyond the ones that were either that damn good or that damn embarrassing. Like, for better or worse, Batman, Superman and Spider-Man have a lot of stand-out moments and otherworld tales to make them stand out long enough to get put into those movies and video games for the normies to latch onto.
That doesn't make sense given Spider-Man retained momentum with nothing but garbage adaptations for 10+ years. You're overthinking it, masses don't give a shit.
Cause it's easy to make garbage adaptations when you got decades of well-regarded material to recycle and spit out back at the viewers. How many times have we seen the alien costume saga and Venom reintroduced again?
He never struck out on his own. He was just the face of the Avengers. As long as that remains in the mainstream then Iron Man will as well.