How did he get away with killing all those people?
Surely all the new heads of the five families would have sworn revenge on him and not stopped until he was killed
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Its a movie
who cares, it insists upon intself
All those people? He only ever killed a mobster and a crooked cop, the guy was a (war) hero
Corleones were already the top family and semi-inspired by the Gambinos, and he simply reminded them why. Their bosses fricked up by trying to change the order. Nobody would try it again for awhile.
they literally massacred sonny in retaliation, you fricking morons
OP said "all those people". As in the final murder spree by the end. He meant the young bosses who took over after the old ones were gone. Sonny was long gone.
oh okay, i take back what i said about you being a moron then
Michael rose to power and was able to do the whole “fire baptism” because Sonny was whacked, which allowed him to rise to power. Your whole chronology is off.
read the thread, moron
You should watch the movie again. The baptism scene was the final scene, well after Sonny was killed. Maybe put the phone down during your viewing.
I think he got salty because he already got corrected and admitted he was a moron before you posted calling him a moron again. He's still a moron.
>the top family
>the Gambinos
lmao
They were the top for a very long time.
Nah, the Genovese family was (and is still) the most powerful Italian crime family.
Not at the time the Godfather was written, and really not until the 90s.
You’re out of your moronic mind, they’ve been to most powerful family since Lucky Luciano.
Incorrect. I know that you've read the wikipedia article and are a really genuine expert on this, but you have it wrong.
Nope, I grew up in Bensonhurst in the 70s. My cousin ran numbers.
Great. You should ask your cousin so he can explain why you're wrong.
Lol isn’t it past your bedtime Sammy?
>anon resorts to bizarre larping and "well uh you're actually [x]!" posting
I accept your concession. Please educate yourself so you don't repeat this mistake in the future.
>concession
This is how you know you’re talking to a fanook.
oh shit, someone's bout to get whacked
Correct, but the zoomers here have let 4chins contrarianism poison them to such a degree that they have to "nu uh!" post at every turn, and then run it into the ground. This board would unironically improve a hundred fold if they removed the captcha and just let the bots flood in, modern bots are far more interesting and honest than anons.
What's so funny? It was for a time - in the era that this was this supposed to take place. It was the main carryover from Luciano/Murder Inc and the main one still also tied to Meyer Lansky and his israelite mob. The minute the feds took them down in Gotti's time is the beginning of the end for big mafia shit.
>The minute the feds took them down in Gotti's time is the beginning of the end for big mafia shit
LCN is doing fine, this is Gambino cope
Didn’t you know, Gambino was the most powerful family in the history of the planet?
>Luciano
>Gambino
Gambino was one of his earliest partners, but none of the "five families" were named after any of them. Both were part of the Masseria family originally.
The Genovese family was called the Luciano crime family.
It was the Masseria family, but later split off into Genovese and Gambino, if I'm not mistaken.
The reason why I originally said Gambino seems like the "successor" to Luciano is he was still the partner to Lansky and shit, who was also Luciano's close friend. I'm sure it's more complicated, but I was just going by turf and networks.
Fair enough. You should listen to the five families audio book, its on youtube its long but good/thorough
I might just do that. It's probably fairer to say Corleone is a composite of all. Vito's kind of like Luciano when he took out Masseria and took over that group. But at the same time, Michael is still involved with Roth (Lansky) in the Cuba shit in Godfather II.
Its four 8 hour parts but its good to have on in the background. Yeah Vito was a composite of Frank Costello and Carlo Gambino but and roth was 100 % lansky
>Meyer Lansky and his israelite mob
i hate the israeli mob most of all. can you guess why?
They were upped the ante with the honeypot idea and started blackmailing with kids.
The israeli mob just merged with ZOG.
>a bunch of daygo half Black person wops acting like subhuman filth
>rationalizing it
Mob bosses are violent and ruthless but Michael had genuine psycho energy that scared them.
what are they gonna do whack him off or something?
The message was sent. If they could get to all the bosses like that, you're better off working with them. In the end, it's about making money.
You'd think his remaining relatives would turn on him for killing Fredo. I know Fredo was a moron that royally messed up but can you trust a brother-killer? It basically means they're all also on the menu if they anger him.
There aren't many who know. It'd just be a (dangerous) rumor, at best.
>can you trust a brother-killer?
No you can't. That's why Michael offed Fredo
He didn't get away with it
>i'm acting
The survivors would have gottten folded over into the Corleone family. Some might have been thrilled to get a promotion.
The problem with the Godfather is that it's way too idealized. It somehow even makes to be romantic when Michael does horrible shit like killing Fredo. I think that's why Goodfellas is so popular, it scans as accurate with people because it depicts how vicious and willing to backstab each other over money mobsters are IRL.
>it depicts how vicious and willing to backstab each other over money mobsters are IRL.
boomers at work are like that too. they try the dirtiest shit to lower some else or to try and cover their mistakes.
but if you challenge them to a fight; they always act like pussies and want to call the cops
Shitty at work. Blames old people and wants to get in fistfights with old people. Surprised they call the cops. Loser.
>boomers at work are like that too. they try the dirtiest shit to lower some else or to try and cover their mistakes.
I worked at a place with a Boomer facilities guy who was stealing supplies, closed tickets without fixing the problems, and hid in his office blasting Rat Pack music and jerking off to porn.
A then 28 year old new manager tried to raise the alarm and the office Boomers rallied around the guy and drummed out the manager. Just destroyed the job of a dude who just bought a house and had a baby to protect that piece of human detritus.
I'm so glad they're mostly retired now. The workforce is so much better off without them. I just wish Covid wasn't a nothingburger and had actually killed them off. But the idea of them spending their last years in nursing homes being beaten and neglected by drug-addicted single mother CNAs fills me with joy.
>it's way too idealized.
I don't think so. The execution could be a bit. But there's a brutal message to it all. Vito and Michael desperately want to make the family fit in wider America, and become legitimate. But they can never escape the evil they've built the family on and will never be legit. And even what good they have will be destroyed (his daughter especially in the end).
i wish we got another decade of calm de niro before he went full HOOOO AHHHHH
i meant pacino
they are basically the same. it's no big deal
He waited to execute the hits until after the corleone family had moved out of new york.
the other families cant touch him in vegas, its all his territory
The family was still in New York. The whole point of Frankie Five Angels was him running their NYC faction.
yeah, so i if anyone in NY wanted to hit michael the best they could do is get to Frankie.
Michael was 100% insulated.
criminal genius
They don't know how to drive or fly?
The Corleones owned the airlines and the TSA. That's one of the reasons Tessio betrayed them: he wanted to help Tataglia get in on the airline business.
He did this on his way out of New York. With the chaos and power-vacuum resulting from the deaths, by the time anyone realized what happened, the Corleones were relaxing in beautiful Lake Tahoe.
>Does not understand how organized crime works
He killed the entire competition and forced the other leaders to respect him. That's how it works in real life
Each family had a massive power vacuum, were in complete disarray and fighting over who should take over. Even if months or years later one family got their shit together and decided to go after Michael, he was in Nevada and far out of their reach. Not to mention that in Part 2 it is stated that the Corleones consolidated much of the underworld after the baptism of fire. The only person we see who seeks revenge for the baptism of fire is Hyman Roth, who to even get close to Michael has to turncoat Fredo. So ultimately every family is scared shitless of Michael and were content to just fight with Clemenza for influence in New York.
Every family was
2.
Because he was Super Mega Cool Guy. Fricking moronic movie. Oh no, what am I gonna do? Oh yeah I'll just use the infinite anonymous henchmen to kill everyone else! Jeez, what a cold blooded and calculated genius. Only a brutal Megamind such as Le Corleone could conjure such a devilish plan.
Fantasy horseshit on the level of Tulsa King
I never watched 3 because it has a lousy reputation and I liked 1+2 so much. Is it really that bad?
It's got it's moments. Pacino and Andy Garcia (who plays Sonny's son) are the best parts. Overall, it's necessary to conclude the story.