How did he have a career in the first place? His "art" looks like a 15 year old Twitter cartoonist on a Spumco bender.
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How did he have a career in the first place?
How did he have a career in the first place? His "art" looks like a 15 year old Twitter cartoonist on a Spumco bender.
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Post your art so we can compare.
You do draw, right?
Why so Kyle and his buddies can try to kill him too
>You have to draw to hate someones art style
Frick off and die I hate stupid c**ts lile you just let people have their fricking opinions and thoughts without having some butthole policing you just fffffrick off
It's funny how easy it is to make tards like you seethe.
Its funny how this is coming from someone who unironically enjoys Mighty Magiswords
Sucks Kyles chode you fat homosexual
Still seething. Take a cold shower and cool off.
I don’t have to be a chef to tell when a dish of food is shit.
just call the troon for what he is
post your art stupid wiener sucking b***h
kys
>you have to be a chef to judge the undersized, undercooked piece of tire rubber you were just served
Absolutely moronic view.
An innocent died.
>doesn't want to hire someone publicly posting shotacon
Sounds pretty reasonable to me
Killing someone over a kinkshame is bigotry anon.
I always thought the MAP rights people were an anti-LGBT psyop, wild to see them come out straight-faced and clear-throated whenever this drama comes up
His career is over, right?
It's been over for years now.
No, because nobody in the industry is on the still-alive pathological liar's side. the worst setback this is having is that he can't have a social media presence without twerps on his ass
Oh no Asimov face is unable to groom fans
kyle is not a groomer
So far he hasn't done anything like what John K has in terms of raping his co-workers.
I really doubt he ever will, he's a fat socially awkward sperg from an obscure mountain town who makes nerdy comedy music
You'll never know if he will or not.
The definition of "rape" is about as loose as your mom's butthole these days
that we know of.
>the still-alive pathological liar's side
is Vee still alive?
he was ugly anyway
She ain't dead. She suicide baited for years now all for money. She'll be back next year.
wolverine has seen better days
According to a credible source I speak with, Kyle's beef with John K. started because of Adult Party Cartoon. The show was his first industry gig, drawing layouts for Fire Dogs 2. John made him revise his work 6 times before it was approved. Then without telling him, he revised all his work and didn't credit him for it. Kyle was upset about this and confronted John. John explained his issues with Kyle's drawings and offered to tutor him personally, but Kyle left the show instead of listening to him. Then John fanned the flames in 2007 by dunking on his art on his blog, kicking off a long rivalry.
I believe it. It's pretty consistent with what's known about both guys after all.
>The show was his first industry gig
Wasn't that actually OG Animaniacs? homie even said as much in
Nope, he was a storyboarder on 2019 Animaniacs. He was in middle school during OG animaniacs
He worked on the last season.
>According to a credible source I speak with, Kyle's beef with John K. started because of Adult Party Cartoon. The show was his first industry gig, drawing layouts for Fire Dogs 2. John made him revise his work 6 times before it was approved. Then without telling him, he revised all his work and didn't credit him for it. Kyle was upset about this and confronted John. John explained his issues with Kyle's drawings and offered to tutor him personally, but Kyle left the show instead of listening to him. Then John fanned the flames in 2007 by dunking on his art on his blog, kicking off a long rivalry.
Where's the source of this? that would honestly explain why one of his pitches reeked like a rip off of Naked Beach Frenzy.
>John explained his issues with Kyle's drawings and offered to tutor him personally
Probably one of the few times John was in the right. This was also back when he could still draw coherently too and actually teach younger artists useful tips and focusing on construction. Kyle seemed like a whiny homosexual who couldn’t handle feedback. Which isn’t surprising considering his art still looks the same even after two decades.
>Kyle can come up with a dozen show pitches
Only problem with that is most of his pitches are ass. Mainly consisting of characters with dumb names like “Peter Pig” or “Sassy Snake” which also happen to be rip-offs of pre-existing IPs. Mighty Magiswords and Moobeard were the only two ideas of his decent enough to be made into cartoons. Only one actually got to become a show and it was an online exclusive that barley anyone saw. Now that he fumbled his future chances over that suicidal shota chick controversy. Nobody will hire him for future projects anymore.
John K and Alex Hirsch may have been one hit wonders. But the shows they created left a huge impact on the animation world that changed things forever. That’s more than Kyle ever will have.
The point has been made before, but his pitches are just that one scene from Freddy Got Fingered:
the shows they created used to be nothing pitches like Brick Duckbill.
He used to have a website where he had some of his pitches opened. Most of them were anime wannabe rejects.
and gravity falls is a twin peaks ripoff.
Something is wrong when John was right about something for once
John K was right about a lot
He also claims either him or one of his friends (I forget which) sent john and co. a fanboy card back in the day and they were dicks to him in response.
I don’t have a source though I just remember it by having that cartoon podcast he did go on in the background
Find that podcast and share it with us
https://ognetworks.tv/c/kyleandluke
One of the early ones of this podcast
Either the sick little monkeys episode or the frog raccoon strawberry one because they also discuss shitting on john k in that one
Thank you. Finally someone shares the source around here
Kyle > John
Guy > Kyle > John
John's best work > Kyle's best work from what I've seen (haven't seen many of Kyle's cartoons to be fair). Mighty Magiswords seemed like a fun show.
Casting couch
'Member that time Kyle wrote his own long ass Wikipedia article and then got banned and the article got remove because he wasn't considered important enought to deserve one unlike John K?
Funny stuff.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190330052450/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_carrozza
I think I remember an interview where he said Vambre's design was more inspired by Celes from Final Fantasy VI. Which I can see, she's another 90s Japanese fantasy girl anyway. Though Vambre's early designs look more like Lina, and her brother looks kinda like Gourry. Both goofy fantasy shows too. I think it's plausible though that he was influenced by playing Japanese RPGs in general more than Slayers specifically.
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/5871666#search=Vambre_Warrior
https://web.archive.org/web/20150716210703im_/http://hkb.2-d.jp/gazou/otona/hkb_ff06.jpg
jesus christ
Magiswords could've been better if Vambre dressed up like Naga
Based
That's shit, Kyle
at least post the cow one
fricking hell
He did the same thing with his IMDB trivia page by the way
https://imdb.com/name/nm2214913/
Fricked up the link.
https://.imdb.com/name/nm2214913/trivia/?ref_=nm_dyk_trv
>Despite being against Newgrounds, he joined the site in 2008 under the name 'spookycube' but after eight years, removed his news posts and his MooBeard lineup from the account
Can someone explain this part to me? Why would one be "against" Newgrounds?
Trying to get rid of evidence I bet
Newgrounds, despite being far tamer than it used to be, is still a "politically incorrect" boogeyman for some people. I have no confirmation because I've never applied for a studio job or anything like that, but I'm guessing that there are people in the industry who look down on that community and will be quicker to ignore someone's application if they have any connection to it. I'm also guessing that might be the reason why Egoraptor made a big stink about "mean spirited Newgrounds humor" a while ago despite that being the place where he started out way back in the day.
Shitting on NG is code for "I'm selling out now"
Naga a cute
Yeh
Is there any actual evidence he wrote this?
I would like to know this as well.
>lists the Ratatouille video game because he was a tester on it
really funny if he did make this article
Why on earth would you list your comic fanmail in your filmography
That's like something you do as you start your career when you need to bloat your portfolio with filler to make it look bigger than it is
I think Kyle did have some weird obsessive stalker who copied his site layout and traced some of his artwork for a portfolio to get on Helluva Boss, so maybe this article was their doing
He credited himself on the Simpsons for having sent them some mail?!
That stalker happened to be this person. The comments have people running into him too
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I'm not gonna lie I find this dude based as frick for managing to trick an employer like vizie and get access to early production material. I would do the same if I weren't a pussy
The only thing that got him got was the fact that Vivi recognized Kyle's artwork.
to be fair he should have an article. Same with Chris Chan
He doesn’t?
Nah Chris Chan doesn't get one, even though there's other lowcows less famous than him that have their own articles.
Also there's shit loads of cartoonist and people who work for the industry that have wiki articles about them that are also way less famous than Carrozza
Notability for a Wikipedia article is based on extensive coverage in reliable secondary sources, not necessarily actual fame or notoriety. So if Kyle gets mentioned a lot in news articles, has a book written about him or anything like that, he'll get a page.
I actually looked. There is one thread of him, but its just drama.
/kiwifarms /threads/kyle-carrozza-drama.103459/
Oh, and someone posted art from a previous pitch on there that rips off from OK KO lets be heroes.
>Didnt both shows cameo in each others shows?
I wouldn't put it past me if he only approved of it just because the raccoon pitch didn't go anywhere since it was too similar to Ko.
the witch is missing her nose in the ko shot.
Thats nothing remember when Luz got her own Wikipedia page?
Like as if the TOH was some step into pop culture milestone in animation.
Kyle can come up with a dozen show pitchs meanwhile Hirsch ran out of steam after GF and John K lives off R&S
You can come up with a million shit ideas but if none of them are worth making then theyre useless
this, it doens't even matter that they're not good pitches, it just tells me he's willing to crank out complete work and ideas regularly. That's useful for regular work
having one good idead/show is honestly good enough, not everyone needs to be a miyazaki. Hillenburg did spongebob and then just left, which is fine
Well, he died
Hillenburg was alive for another 19 years after SpongeBob premiered before he died
Yes, Hillenberg was alive before he died. Many such cases.
19 years is a lot of time to develop a new show, He just wasn't interested in doing anything more with TV for a while.
>Hillenburg did spongebob and then just left, which is fine
He died, dipshit.
the virgin Matt
>waaah that meanie disney won't let me use the character I sold him gimme gimme GIMME
the chad Kyle
>here's a pizza delivery pig duo, here's two pandas lusting for a insta thot, here's another idea from a real creative mind, chief
>Kyle has a clear understanding of the "don't become overly attached to your ideas" concept
>barely any of his ideas are actually interesting or worth pitching in the first place
His Achilles heel.
Kyle Carrozza's style is everything people accuse John K/Spumco of being: Floatie "goofy for the sake of goofy" stuff with no REAL bearing or weight behind it. A forced and false sense of chaotic cartoon energy. Lifeless junk. Compare anything Carrozza's made or been in charge of with this short, which was also downstream of Spumco but has craftsmanship behind it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wNoh-7uQ28
He had a pizza concept with humans, i guess he’s desperate to rip off Pizza tower if he changed them to pigs
Never liked him and his work and that was before all the Vee drama (which tbh feels like Vee trying to intentionally ruin his reputation because she's a schizo)
>She went to the brink of death to make Kyle angry
Peak LA animation person opinion
>brink of death
Not even, she's cried wolf like this numerous times before. She'll be back and do it all over again eventually.
A perverted reaction to someone just having a hard time in life after people intentionally sought to create that hard time, like a force of nature did it instead. Again that's the animation person mentality you're expressing, quit hating on her and defending your industry anonymously, it's very cowardly
OH MY GOD LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE NO ONE LIKES YOU LEAVE GUY NO ONE LIKES YOU FRICK OFF LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE c**t LEAVE
Lmao looks like an animation student just broke, no bud I'm going to establish more connections with people who have been reading my posts on this board since 2006, contributing to their careers and the careers of others
Biologically improbable
Many cultures have prescribed death for gay, your rationalization is peeking out. Don't attack her to feel better about your desire to be more like those cultures
I cannot figure out how some twitter schizo being fired, and then claiming to be suicidal over it five years later, somehow transformed into Kyle is a murderer that killed them himself with an axe or some shit.
What the frick happened? Those are two totally different situations.
the short version of the story is that vee worked on mighty magiswords briefly, kyle discovered her internet artwork and wanted to distance himself from her (letting other colleagues know about it in the process) and vee has since used that as the scapegoat for every problem in her life
what's laughable is that the vee simpers found a joke animation kyle made and tried to equate that to whatever shit vee has drawn
But still, half of twitter last October jumped right to Kyle killed Vee himself, screeching about how he is a murderer.
A schizo self harming...years after some event is not the same thing as Kyle killing them. Vee wasn't even fricking dead, or even attempted suicide. It was a fricking tweet.
Yeah that's the thing, Vee aint dead. That sort of makes Kyle less of a murderer.
a few popular vee simpers starting spreading the kyle is a murderer narrative after vee made another suicide bait post
Vee is ALWAYS making suicide posts. Why was this one humored by so many people?
Kyle is not going to give you a cushy industry job for licking the boot.
1. Poor you man child, you're finding out that some people have empathy for others instead of only caring about media and career and mental fantasies
2. That is a straw man. You can't change what people are actually claiming to win. That's just an expression of your desire to control narratives which is why you're going into animation
Let me break it down for you
>Kyle kinkshamed a LGBT woman
>Kyle fired said LGBT woman then mage a game out of ruining their career for plain ol' bigoted white male boys will be boys fun
>Vee's livelihood is destroyed
>Vee contemplates self harm after years of organized abuse from industry cishet white males
>Kyle is 200% at fault for all of these actions
>cishet
Go frick yourself
Kyle went full moron over her /ss/ fantasies not her alphabet soup and her "I was abused this is valid coping for some of us" defense didn't help
He's a piece of shit without dragging idpol into it
He's a bit of a hypocrite since he himself drew pokemon rule 34 of May and Brock fricking, but also implied that Brock also fricked May's little brother AND meowth.
Listen you're not going to get me to defend the fat fedora frick, if you don't draw porn on the side for yourself in this business I don't trust you
Bruce timm drew nudes on the side while he was working on Batman. Except those were with adult women.
>Bruce Timm copied 1960s Playboy comic artists so people would forget his actual art style
seriously, why is the dialouge in so much old capeshit so overwritten?
To get your attention
Who even drew this?
Are you for real right now anon. It's right there, the post says it, it's right there twice in the image.
>Bruce Timm copied 1960s Playboy comic artists so people would forget his actual art style
And I fricking love him for it
She's not gonna frick you. You'd be better off getting a woman at the mental asylum.
She's not my type.
Vee has no secondary sexual characteristics, I wouldn't frick her with my brother's dick
How do you know that? There are no pictures of her.
Theres videos and pictures of her. She has a video on her Youtube channel having a mental breakdown.
Might a curious onlooker get a link kind sirs?
I gave you guys the keys to finding these in my original post
?si=QUJ3ddMIZqFLV6NW
She looks like someone who be on tumblr
Why she kinda cute though....
Try thinking without your dick
Goddamn it bros why is it the most schizo girls gotta be the cutest? Is this God's sick joke?
Frick, this is a almost perfect clone of an insane person that worked in a studio I was in about two years ago. she also had a complete emotional breakdown and vanished mid-project. And then tried blaming totally random people at work for it a year later.
Seriously, just add in some pink stripes into the hair and it's the exact same person.
That does sort of sound like someone I knew
> add in some pink stripes into the hair and it's the exact same person
oh frick...
Vee's posted pics of herself to Twitter before and just searching "handsomehugs" on YT will bring up her account featuring videos of her in it
I looked. I didn’t see anything.
If he's still working, then that explains why Andrew Dickman is still working regardless of being an abusive boyfriend to his ex.
Wait, I’ve never heard of this? Source on this?
https://www.tumblr.com/04range/137209296918/warning-about-andrew-dickman-awdtwit
his ex is only on tumblr as of now. She's not on twitter.
How in the hell does Vee still have fans at this point willing to go to bat for her? She has the mental capacity of a spoiled 13 year old constantly screeching suicide for attention. and people are still falling for it?
Any schizo here knows what's the longest she's gone radio silent.
If her behavior is random and independent then if we wait 3 times longer than her biggest hiatus then in all likelihood she's death.
Because a fat while cishet male supervisor kinkshamed and ruined the career of a LGBT woman. He does not have to have a gun in his hand to be the primary cause behind ending someone's life.
We're not buying it Vee. Go grift to whatever fanbase you have left.
>Primary cause
Sucks that you were fired over internet art you attached your real name to but at some point you have to move on and take accountability for your life
Nobody anywhere ever should be fired for their own private personal work I don't care what it is. Kyle has no right to end a life over personal private work. Kyle has no right to continue a career after ending someone else's.
Vee is such a mental case there's probably more that happened
Look at her old tweets on her old account. She said some disgusting shit.
Who cares pussy
Imagine speaking just to express yourself instead of speaking to audition for a job at all times
John's work is the basis of Industry work. You just have voluntary brain damage if you can't acknowledge how he has guided animation positively. Stuff like Helluva Boss is made using guidance from sources like John K's blog as communicated by fujoshi artist brains
Wasn't private.
It wasn't private she posted that shit publicly and is now wondering why nobody wants to take her side.
I thought the whole canceling of Kyle was that everyone was taking her side.
Why did South Park include a caricature of him as an internet troll, he piss off Matt and Trey too?
they're mad that they can't branch out of south park and create something new
They made one of the most successful musicals of all time.
He had a webcomic that made fun of John k and had them on a list of things John hated.
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He yelled at someone all because the person liked the title cards? That's a bit of a dick move right there.
Does it matter? He's a fricking murderer.
Vee will die if she doesn't have her yearly dose of shota cum
He's basically just picrel phenomenon in near-full effect.
I don't get it. Wasn't the drama with Vee and Vivienne Medrano, did they switch targets because Viv was too popular?
you know, out of all his proof of concept stuff, this wasn't half bad
>we never got a legendary fusion magisword
vee was an artist that liked to draw straight shota stuff nothing actually shown in her art outside of one of the characters being in their underwear
Mac and Frankie
The brother and sister from Meet the Mitchells
it seems that the haters won in the end and she finally killed herself
Oh wow. How do people know she killed herself?
they don't
I've never heard of this person. Does she have social media? I have been in-industry for a looooong time and I have never heard of her.
https://twitter.com/atherist
https://baraag.net/@afairmaiden
she also goes by Ang
I just remembered their tumblr also exists (which I was just going through a couple weeks ago) but it's strangely password protected now
they have a DA too https://www.deviantart.com/handsomehugs
Haha wew what a page.
Shes ang vondra im pretty sure
She didn't. She done this shit like 5 times and now its gotten to a point that even her defenders are turning against her. Honestly Kyle should sue her. He has evidence now because her fans wouldn't keep their mouths shut. Hell I'm 99 percent sure she made this thread to add more flames because the average Cinemaphile user doesn't give a frick about her anymore. Like nobody is buying it anymore. She got caught and is unable to do damage control. She's brought this on herself and is just making it worse.
No seriously... who is this person? I am not sure how I never heard of her unless she uses a ton of pseudonyms.
Well she's gone through Twitter accounts like a 2000s Black Friday sale. She'll stay on one for a few months, then she gets called out and then she deletes and makes more. Like all her Tweets discussing her disgusting shit is public knowledge. I'm still baffled that there are still people defending her.
I am now super curious if I have worked with her. What are some of the handles she uses?
Anon already posted them here. Do not look at her likes.
Like even Revsaystbh couldn't defend her. You know the guy known for defending that shit. He took the video about this shit down because of the screencaps of her saying disgusting shit.
>Well she's gone through Twitter accounts like a 2000s Black Friday sale. She'll stay on one for a few months, then she gets called out and then she deletes and makes more
How the frick do people keep finding her. If she deleted the account because of people she didn't like posting/replying to it, then those same people would just find the new one the same way her fans would.
>disgusting shit
Like what? You keep posting this but I have yet to see what "disgusting shit" she apparently said/tweeted, Kyle.
>Went on a coke fueled rage all because someone didn’t like F&CC despite liking the title card design.
What a self-righteous douchebag
We're not buying it. Go back to your shitty discord server and vent about how you can't cancel Kyle.
I don't want to cancel Kyle, and he might be a good guy for the most part. I don't know much about him. I'm just saying, he was being a douchebag in this exchange here
Maybe he was just having a bad day, don't know.
Why dont we just cancel him just for laughs?
he doesn't need to be "cancelled". He's already regarded as being difficult to work with, he's a PR nightmare now, and none of his pitches or ideas are interesting enough to pick up.
His twitter page and instagram are locked.
Dobson's brother?
I dont think this guy is related to Dobson, Dobson's brother is into political stuff.
>Being accepted as a FB friend is a privilege and not a right. If you're thoughtlessly rude again, I won't hesitate to unfriend you on FB. Do I make myself clear?
jebus
Read that in Chris Chan's voice and it suddenly makes more sense.
The other guy said he was sorry and said he liked the title cards. So that's no reason for Kyle to get all pissy like Dobson over it.
B
I'll be legit sad if Ang is dead, I've heard randos said it here and there but of true how many more months until we get a confirmation.
she isn't dead, she's a serially abusive pathological liar
She's probably whining in her discord server wondering why nobody takes her seriously.
I've yet to hear her being abusive but she does have a crippling need for attention
Threatening suicide in order to pin someone with manslaughter is abuse
I think both Kyle and Vee are pieces of shits
Vee is occasionally amazing
Kyle's last hurrah was that one-page strip about meeting John K at a convention and I think the President was black when it came out
Personally, I think ghost girl is sexo and prohayas is so goddamn lucky
I bet his next show pitch is going to be something original and completely not trying to be anime mixed with TTG
I remember seeing this kid, but he looked more like montana max from tiny toons
Kyle has the typical artist process of demanding everyone worship whatever he drew, and if anyone has any critique, he gets pissed off and personally insulted over it.
>How did he have a career in the first place?
He networked OP. Something you can't even do. That's why you're here.
no moron
the content was entertaining
you all give him shit but he provided animated cheesecake webisodes unlike the parent cable based channel
You know it's bad when Cinemaphile doesn't even get a little horny for these designs
>Cinemaphile doesn't even get a little horny for these designs
lol
>How did he have a career in the first place?
Strangely enough, in the mid 00s, Deviantart was an amazing place to meet and network with industry creatives and have them see your work and land gigs.
Tumblr and later Twitter replaced DA as networking sites and I feel we're all the worse because of that
Hey guys I think Ang is still alive
The last thing on earth the six yr old girl who vanished from neighborhood saw.
Vee isn’t just into incest she really really likes it when someone’s little brother or sister is crying while an adult family member is fricking them, and the older person is holding them in place reassuring them
She's one of those people who got molested as a kid, which then became her fetish later on. Don't call it mental illness though, she'll insist that she's actually totally sane and that, despite her public paraphilia and monthly suicide bait, she's a normal person and there's nothing psychologically wrong with her.
waaah why don't people like shitboy and cum cum waaah
lol homosexual
>Kyle Carrozza is such a hack that the ONLY thing in his decades-long career that can get Cinemaphile to talk about him somewhat positively is how he might have pushed a troony to suicide
>troony
oh my bad, she's not. Sorry I read 'LGBT' and 'suicide' together and just jumped to conclusions
He's also so unpopular that he has to sneak on here and try to badmouth Vee while whiteknighting himself because no one really gives any about the fatfrick otherwise.
mighty magiswords was almost good. if not for the spastic annoying writing and pace.
I’m sorry but don’t you completely lose your LGBT label when your entire thing is straight male-to-female and female-to-male child abuse? Do you really get to be ‘a lesbian’ when the female relationship you’re talking about is an adult woman and a kid girl? I wouldn’t describe that as queer, I’d just describe it as predatory
Man I know it makes sense for artists want to stay relevant and successful, but Kyle really does insist upon himself. You got your show, that’s great, do you really need to stick around whipping out shoddy pitches every day to the public for like 10 years, going so far out of your way to declare you’re a professional and you’ve got it all figured out over and over again, honestly why bother? It seems to me like the guy isn’t actually career or project-driven, he’s just making sure to FEEL like Walt Disney or some shit every day.
>eally does insist upon himself. You got your show, that’s great, do you really need to stick around whipping out shoddy pitches every day to the public for like 10 years, going so far out of your way to declare you’re a professional and you’ve got it all figured out over and over again,
He did pitch something again to nickeldeon, except they rejected on the last minute right before everything was ready to go.
I was shown some of his pitch bibles in private. They're more thought out than you would expect, though if I'm being a honest a lot of the basic premises and designs don't really grab me. He puts in more thought than Cinemaphile thinks but probably to ideas that aren't worth it.
What were those pitch bibles?
I won't specify because I'm scared of these posts somehow being traced to me, but it wasn't MooBeard or Mighty Magiswords.
So new material then.
Essentially, yeah
Can we at least get descriptions of the said pitches?
https://files.catbox.moe/l18if7.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/67dp32.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/y2onrn.pdf
here's some of kyle's pitches
>https://files.catbox.moe/67dp32.pdf
This one's an older revision, he pitched Batsy and Blue again last year
Feels like Batsy and Blue is the only one that looks like it could really take off and be a thing
Agreed, easily his third best thing
That actually has potential. I wont lie. I want more of this bluesy
>https://files.catbox.moe/l18if7.pdf
wow there's really a character named Yo Mama in here
He really wants to showrun a very classic style, or what amounts to an early 90s take on classic wacky toons, but there is no place to take that in the modern day. No one is interested in making a wacky bendy rubber hose gag cartoon anywhere.
So his pitches keep failing since they are never even close to what major studios put out, and half the time they look too expensive to make anyway with the constant model breaking toonynes.
His stuff is perfectly at home n 1993 Nickelodeon, or 1995 What a Cartoon show. But it is too far removed from what Disney, Viacom, and WB make now.
>His stuff is perfectly at home n 1993 Nickelodeon, or 1995 What a Cartoon show. But it is too far removed from what Disney, Viacom, and WB make now.
This is what he thinks is going on. The reality is that his concepts just aren't very good. His characters aren't fun or charming (unless you're a coomer I guess), and his style is only superficially in-line with rubberhose/old school cartoons, but not actually drawn or animated with the same level of skill or talent that is needed to make that look good.
I disagree. He has some strong characters. Magiswords and his old comics had quite a bit of character development. MooBeard and Batsy & Blue have strong characters and dynamics. He needs to I guess work on how he dresses up his ideas. They seem to give off a lame impression at first to folks, but if you hear out the pitches they're pretty solid stuff.
No one's buying your self-aggrandizing self-promotion, Kyle. Literally.
The last gag themed cartoon was Uncle Grandpa, but everyone hated that
>but everyone hated that
I really fricking hate how many gag cartoons from the 2010s were thrown under the bus by online cartoon reviewers who had a vile hatred for anything that wasn't autofellating lorehomosexualry.
Frick those guys for ruining it. Uncle g was good too
Pickle and Peanut maybe, but also everyone hated that.
He could make a graphic novel and try to get it picked up by Netflix or Amazon. Sure there are others trying the same thing but if the art is good he could stick out.
Look OP if a nut job with a mutton chop neck beard hybrid shows up you can't tell him no because you just know he's gonna do some goofy shit. It's like when you ask the tard to play with you guys because you know he's gonna make an ass of himself.
>oh, I've got a great new idea for a cartoon!
>uuhh... Fizzy and Millyshake! One is a wacky idiot and the other one is a girl who is also a wacky idiot!
>No?
>How about Birdbrain and Squirrelnuts? One is a wacky idiot and the other one is a girl who is also a wacky idiot!
>I've also got this great idea I call Fishface and Whaley Bailey, where one is a wacky idiot and the other one is a girl who is also a wacky idiot!
>if you want, I've got so many ideas!
>Grin-and-Bear-it the Bear and John Cougar Meloncat
>Pun and Wordplay
>Big fat guy and Smirky little guy
>Girlgirl and Boyboy
>Shootfirst and Dindu!
>Puncho and Kicksy!
>Please hire me!!
at least someone in the industry is trying to make fun unpretentious stuff that would actually entertain kids
He makes them for himself because he's a moronic autist with a one-track mind. He's not interested in entertaining kids.
Are creators not supposed to make things for themselves first and an audience second?
If he wants to get hired to make anything, he needs to make for an audience first, instead of recycling the same formula over and over, because it doesn't "actually entertain kids"
Kids don't want to see somebody please himself, they want to see fun stuff for them. If you don't want to do that go into another field, you can't make kids want to see your self centered work
To be fair, John K. made a lot of self-centered stuff like Man's Best Friend. It's not bad to pour yourself into your artistic expression, you just need to present it in a way that is able to entertain others. John used his angst about his upbringing to relate to youths who also feel oppressed by authority figures. Every time he showed Man's Best Friend to audiences with children, they'd be eating up the oar scene. I would say Kyle knows this too. Mighty Magiswords didn't really fail. It did well as web shorts and went on to have a standard-length run on television. It's not as if he can't entertain children. He has his nerdy indulgences but he keeps them in check.
>Kids don't want to see somebody please himself
Lmao but for real, this is spot on.
>Kids don't want to see somebody please himself
Sorry guy, this is Hollywood
So basically. This but with Kyle, and him not getting the money to make it.
>Shootfirst and Dindu
I'd watch that, it sounds like a riot
Mighty Magiswords was kino. Wish it got another season. No idea why Kyle causes autists to boil over with rage, though.
CN was marketing the moronic titans more than Magiswords.
This guy was supposed to go to Youmacon back in October but for some reason his presence caused such a shit show they canceled him. What the frick did he do?
He smelled like moldy Mozzarella
he he
get it?
He draws some good big booty b***hes so all is forgiven
>
where the booty b***hes at? He could at least be a decent rule 34 artist if he has the balls to do it.
All I know is that I loved his Frog Racoon strawberry webcomic. Dude should have stuck with webcomics.
He thinks he's too good for comics or any sort of gig that isn't a prestigious showrunner/creative lead position. Lot of homosexuals who have worked for CN and Nick feel the same way, even though they've only ever made garbage and got paid a shittier wage than they would have gotten if they took up a low effort IT job and worked on art on the site.
kek. looking through Frog Racoon Strawberry and he made one about John K being an asshat to Strawberry.
Hold on a sec. Isn't this guy a friend or associate of Vivziepop? I watched a documentary on the Vivize drama with her so-called "stalker," Lincar Rox, and this guy was mentioned in it.
I dont think they're friends, she just recognized his work as stolen because the style he uses is distinct
Soo...this Viv is the one that half of Twitter is simping for? This fricking obvious pedo psycho that pretends to be suicidal for attention?
Over the weird looking dory guy that actually makes cartoons and actually Doesn't fill them with woke shit?
Honestly, I think twitter gays are just in love with the whole narrative of a persecuted LGBT woman being harmed by the evil straight white guy thing that they do not give a shit about actual details or care about what is actually happening.
Weird, nobody complained about craig drawing mac humping Frankie’s leg for a card
Big difference between drawing a gag (not even an nsfw one) for a *private* wrap party and *publicly* posting your shota porn for anyone on the Internet to see
Hows about grow the frick up moron
people frick, that's not a new and novel thing and definitely not something you end a life over
How about you go stick that lance of yours up your own ass, you whiteknight. She was being EXTRA fricking wired and stupid.
Looks like she was drawing normal stuff and you are the ones freaking out making a huge deal out of it
>normal stuff
Are you blind? Or do you think shota porn is normal?
>people frick children, that's not a new and novel thing and definitely not something you end a life over
Ftfy
A life wasn't ended
It's both funny and sad how dogshit Vee's control over her power level is. She's somehow both extremely based AND completely moronic about how she handles it
I find it funny that everyone was on Kyle's side the last time we had this thread. Kyle just thought it was a bad idea to have a pedo on his team, so he kicked her out. All these fakers suddenly jumping in to support the Pedo girl is honestly disgusting. Also, frick John K. His father should have hit him harder.
$5000 is barely 2 months in Crapafornia.
Which lines up well with the time she stopped talking.
The whole point of the Kickstarter was to move out of Cali cuz it was too expensive. Did she not do the thing that she was paid $5,000 to do?
Kyle > south park > suicidal roastie
You have be a special kind of based to be able to piss off an animation professional.
Did kyle really write that tumblr post? How pathetic.
Vee is bad at money management, she did a previous Gofundme before that where she got 20k to help her get out of debt.
She did end up moving though, but I think she moved to a few locations across the country before she settled.
Then she said her medical issues caught up to her and she didn't have the money for treatment and decided to give up.
Vee really seems like the kind of person that is too childish and selfish to function in any workplace of any kind. Definitely not any kind of studio where people need to be professional and produce things on time under budget. Vee is an awkward grown child that could likely never pull off being a doordash driver.
She couldn't even finish like 5 pages of her comic before throwing a tantrum and deleting everything.
She really is the type of girl you think you want obsessed with you as a kid but in reality you really don’t
Let me guess.... Florida?
I assumed she moved to like Arizona or Utah. A place far enough from California but close enough to still feel like "oh, I'm not actually too far from the animation industry if I want to go back to it"
Any idea what state she ended up in?
I've seen Kiwifarms at it's worst and the most they've ever done is say mean things about obnoxious homosexuals. What kind of traumatic harassment could put someone in 20k debt?
I am half convinced she's just...like that, blows shit out of proportion, seeks out drama, then cries when it takes up her life/cuts into her fanbase/comission work. You know the type of person I'm tlaking about, right? Everything is always someone else's fault, never your own., and this time, THIS time, this manifesto level burn will get 'em!
She’s the type of person to turn a verbal warning into a termination. When someone like Rebecca Sugar gets called in about some old pornographic art they made, they know how to say ‘oh yeah that’s old, I don’t do stuff like that anymore and it was never that big a deal, my only priority now is to get this project of ours done’ and the discussion is easy. Someone like Vee I imagine just blows up and says drawing incest and shota whatever is her lifestyle and she won’t give it up, because to her it probably is.
if vee wasn't neurotic and bad at time management maybe she could've had a somewhat decent income drawing shit
it’s funny as frick that kyle carozza threads get derailed like this cause he has nothing else going for him
did she actually get the 20K
Didn't she complain that some 'legal issues' arose and she didn't at least for one of these fundraisers
19k, the gofundme is still visible. then she did another fundraiser half a year later that got 5k or so.
You say this like that doesn't describe everyone in the industry since 2010
Isnt that mostly tumblr artists though?
>Your one show
>Gets Zaslav’ed and is hard to find.
Karma
idk how either
Oh look, it's one of THESE people. Spams their shit all over the internet and when it gets deleted for being off-topic conspiracy nonsense, he starts screaming "I'M BEING CENSORED I'M BEING CENSORED"
Hillary lost
How bitter do you have to be to rip off a Cartoon Network show that suffered the same fate as yours did?
Insanely bitter
who to believe
>the showrunner that didn't want to deal with a pathological liar
>the kid who cried suicide
Kyle
How did this tard end up ruining his own reputation online in a matter of years?
He did it himself after he snapped from being compared to John K one too many times.
I liked Mighty Magiswords, it reminded me a lot of Dave the Barbarian. I don't know if I just process things faster but I didn't find it too fast paced, just the usual comedic patter where you go for volume of gags over setting up a few that have to land.
I also don't know what Kyle did for so many to act like he shit in their cereal.
I actually like a lot of the art on his instagram. Not that familiar with his work, but he's better than some people are giving him credit for.
While Kyle making a groupchat to tag in all of their mutual colleagues was a bit much, everything after that has been Vee's inability to not sabotage herself. There was a period of time where she was taking commissions consistently, had a decent fanbase, but kept fricking up by constantly replying to/quote retweeting people giving her shit and inviting harassment. She had the option of moving to the fediverse but refused because she wanted the attention she got from twitter.
All she had to do was fricking ignore people. Don't reply to morons, don't sit in discord servers with insane people all day, and definitely don't write manifestos about how /ss/ porn is actually totally normal etc etc. Make like the Japanese and post your shit and block anyone that's obnoxious, or just have a private account so that you can vet people beforehand.
And most importantly, don't send your fricking address to someone who lovebombs you. Get a UPS or whatever. A PO box. Have ANY sort of opsec. Different handles on the regular. Cut your presence up and be guarded.
Change and use different emails on the regular. I'm half on the fence that in three months Vee will reappear and it'll be a 'miracle' or that we'll finally get a obituary. The Kyle sitch, the Holly sitch, seems to have been years beforehand.
At *best* Kyle raised concerns on art Vee MAY have left on a work computer. If so, that's on fricking her. That's just being a professional. A worst sure he may had been twisted by holly or whatever, but still, like you said - Vee should had disconnected, drawn art, taken fricked up comissions, lived couch to couch. I guess we'll see.
Laika and Puppy are pretty bumbed out but Laika was on her way off the net anyway, and again, Vee has done shit like this before.
Can we find a middle ground between "2D e-girls are basically CP, lets report this and waste the time of a glowie trying to combat the real deal" and "publicly share your self-illustrated incestual SS fetish and expect your boss to be cool"?
Fat white ugly nerds are fricking doomed man, if he supported it or even just ignored it he would be tarred as a pedo by association, since he clutched pearls and canned her he's abusing a mentally ill woman. Play the game or not, you lose.
I don't know the whole story, but I think ignoring it would've been fine
I dunno man chapter 1 in rhetoric for braindead homosexuals is "if you aren't with us, you're against us" and chapter 2 is "if you're against us, you're all the same person, which is the worst degenerate we can find/invent".
If I'm a showrunner with a career based on children's cartoons, and one of my artists is publicly doing SS content with 0 obfuscation, they are going to get the memo the hard way the moment I can't feign ignorance. Otherwise it's just going up the ladder.
Would you consider him to have a career in comics and cartoons? He's mostly known for his role on 30 Rock.
He looks a little different without the hat, though.
Making fun of him is always fun
Why is there a schizo pushing hard the idea that he was made fun of on South Park? It's not like fat neckbeards with sideburns are uncommon and South Park's art style is really non-specific
Must be a John Simp or a Vee Whiteknight.
Alternatively Kyle is flattering himself into thinking he's that important or noteworthy