>Solo
I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but Solo was the only nu-star wars film that actually felt like a star wars movie. Even with moronic shit like Maul's cameo and infamous "I have no people".
>the vulture producers swoop in after season 1 and add all their tough action girl characters >then they fire the only believable tough action girl for not having the correct political views
>Han Solo prequel story with a new actor no one knows >Obi Wan story where he fights Vader multiple times, using the same actors from the prequels
Imagine you’re a Disney exec. Which of these would you actually release in theaters, and which one would you push to Disney+?
Boba Fett also was going to be a movie. Solo Boba Fett and Obi Wan were going to be a connected trilogy. Darth Maul and Emilia Clarke would have linked them together. It would have ended with a Obi Wan vs Maul fight. The cartoon already doing this had no bearing on them wanting to do this
The truth is that no one beyond Star Wars geeks ever gave a shit about Obi-Wan or his story. And they liked Han Solo because of Harrison Ford
And really, the initial success of Star Wars was mainly due to luck and timing with how the state of cinema was in the late 70s. It was an entirely different landscape and that's why this big blockbuster blew everyone away. But now when every movie is a big blockbuster and every TV show is prestige genre drama, Star Wars is just another property in a sea of dozens. The generation of nerds that were loyal to the brand are dying out. There will be no one new hopping on board because what is there to like? The best movie from the franchise came out 40 years before the next generation was even born. The average release date of a movie on Netflix is 2019. No one watches old movies except old people. The franchise is over, they can never recapture the original excitement nor the excitement of the return in the 90s
Obi Wan could have been really good if they had written a completely different story. Don't involve with him Leia at all. Pit him against Maul and the Inquisitors. Ewon Morton's Obi Wan is good. They had to actively try to make it bad.
Kill off the material that had kept Star Wars profitable in the decades between trilogies. Kill off the male demographic that had done the bulk of the paying for official, semi official, and nonofficial license work. I'm not calling the EU full of gems or saying that only pandering to one group is necessary, but you don't slaughter your best bull while his balls are full and producing.
It didn’t work. There’s no obsessive female fans. They did not succeed in making the type of movie women like. George did a better job at that. What they did try was to delete Luke or make a fene Luke. Except she had no background story when trying to jam her into the Skywalker series . Fricking genius
And instead you created the biggest sequel drop of all time, set a new record for second week drops with that same movie, created the first trilogy ever to lose one BILLION DOLLARS from the first to the last, and managed to cause Hasbro to lose 300 million dollars on "Partner brands" in a year with two major star wars releases, one of them being a mainline movie.
You thought they'd buy anything, they'd always come back, but somehow you proved that adage wrong. Instead of expanding the audience, they imploded it on a level we just don't have a comparison for. Imagine a fricking sequel losing 732 million dollars in any franchise? Imagine the third movie in a trilogy losing a BILLION? A fricking billion dollars! Disney is hurting for one of those right now, and they burned away that much money somehow just by sheer virtue of making the average joe say "I would rather watch an attempt at an arthouse Joker than the new Star Wars movie."It cannot be understated just how big of a frickup this is, it's sheer mind boggling that such a thing could happen. That Star Wars, of all things, could be a brand nobody wants the toys for. PEOPLE DON'T WANT STAR WARS TOYS. It's like if Pokemon merch suddenly dried up, and the games suddenly lost half their sales between 2 entries. People would be stunned, "How could POKEMON fail that hard?!" But here you have an even more consistent seller for far longer and what was, in 2012 when Star Wars was bough, far more successful. Star Wars went DOWN 4 rankings in the most successful franchises during the biggest push of it's lifetime.
Genuinely, I'm happy I'm alive to see it. This is a once in a generation media frickup, I'll never see a dumpster fire burn this bright again. Star Wars was the ultimate proof no franchise, none of them, are bulletproof.
You don't know what the word adage means.
The sequel trilogy lost a billion dollars? Is that what you are trying to say here?
You used alot of words but didn't say much and did it in a really hard to understand way. Work on your communication skills.
>You don't know what the word adage means. >a proverb or short statement expressing a general truth.
"Star Wars fans will buy anything, no matter how crappy!" >The sequel trilogy lost a billion dollars?
You're some kind of moron. Rise of Skywalker made 1 BILLION less than TFA. >You used alot of words but didn't say much and did it in a really hard to understand way
Basic literacy issue. Not even skill, you're just plain old moronic. No fuss no muss, nothing special, just moronic.
>>The sequel trilogy lost a billion dollars? >You're some kind of moron. Rise of Skywalker made 1 BILLION less than TFA.
Oh it turned out to be even worse than that. For a long time people assumed the budget was only $275 million. This year it turned out the budget was actually $400-500 million
If you assume that the marketing costs weren't factored into this, that means they only did a little better than break even, which is probably why there's been no Sequel Trilogy push other than empty announcements
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Anonymous
Oh I believe it, but Anon was talking about the actual grosses. Like imagine if Endgame made... well, fricking Rise of Skywalker money. After Infinity War made 2 billion? Nobody would believe it. Such a consistent seller dropping so hard from the previous entry? Fricking madness.
This fricking happened. This is real. More than 1 out of every 3 TLJ tickets were sold in the first 3 days, it had worse legs than Attack of the Clones, and somehow shareholders weren't losing their minds. You see it and you feel like a number got fudged somewhere, but goddamn. This is somehow real. Star Wars is worth less than Minions.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>SW:FA - 2 billion dollar movie only made 100-200million return >all the other ones lost money or broke even
those UK tax leaks were brutal
can't wait until they find the returns for Indy5
11 months ago
Anonymous
>$400-500 million
Fricking hell and I thought Indy 5 was their biggest single movie flop.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You forgot about Solo
11 months ago
Anonymous
Indy 5 is possibly $429 million after the marketing costs are added in; if it doesn't make a billion it'd be a bigger flop than Rise
11 months ago
Anonymous
430 millies is a spicy number but nevermind a billion, from what I heard and saw from various israelitetubers not a single cinema any of them visited had more than a dozen or so people, during peak hours mind you.
This absolute shitshow won't even make enough money to pay for the catering.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why was Last Jedi so cheap?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Why was Last Jedi so cheap?
No massive reshoots. It was the exact movie they wanted to make from the get go. Which is all you need to know about why its all such a shit show right now.
This unironically sums up her thinking. It's pretty straightforward.
Men make up the majority of audience-watchers. So if they can appeal to women, they can theoretically double their audience. The gamble is assuming that men will watch regardless of what they do.
This gamble did not pay off. Doubly so since women didn't enjoy the shit they put out either (trannies aren't women)
> So if they can appeal to women, they can theoretically double their audience.
this is one of the things causing so many problems in male dominated hobbies, they want the audience they don't have and consider the one they do to be permanent, never considering that going for mass appeal may alienate their longtime fans
It does appear that the stock has reverted to the 2016-era. Any more flopping and I think it’s going really damage the company. It’s like they went out of their way to shit up their own products over the past 7 years. It’s weird as hell. I’ve never seen anything like this.
I was reminded today that in essence Yidney was never supposed to be a primarily movie making company. They are, or are supposed to be, a theme park company that uses movies to attract people to their properties in Florida.
Now the side hustle has gone so fricking bad their main business is getting rocked by it.
Nevermind the shit they pulled with Splash Mountain and the like.
israelites insisted on using Disney as their main podium for preaching of their disgusting message and now the whole thing has started catching fire.
It's not. Marvel at least has the illusion of difference with the different character genres and settings, even if it's all set through the same MCU formula filter
>They thought Star Wars was like Marvel and that it had enough backup material to warrant slop every year.
They did not have any care or concept of old EU material whatsoever. k.k.flat out said EU material did not exist. She had no concept or knowledge of any of it. It was only after the creative failure of the sequels and the 'relative' success of anything Filoni related that current Disney/Lucasfilm started to acknowledge the existence of the EU and mine new material from it in the way that the MCU mines material from old Marvel comics.
It still hilarious that Disney spent billions on acquiring SW and billions more on advertising and propagating it, hoping it would become the next Marvel Cinematic Universe. Instead they created a trilogy that killed Star Wars in the eyes of most of the audience, two more side flicks that both flopped because people were still angry over the trilogy, a couple of low budget stream shows and over a dozen of cancelled and axed movie and TV projects. It was supposed to be their golden goose but instead they ran it into the ground.
The people working on it literally killed han Luke and Leia in every movie. It’s so bad I can’t remember if Leia is still alive at the end of the Rey trilogy.
Go look at all the articles in this thread. Star Wars was supposed to pump out a huge movie every year for the next 100 years. Can you tell me why that didn't happen? Why with every new movie, the viewership and the week-to-week dropoffs kept getting worse? Why the social media reputation of Star Wars kept plummeting? Why nobody cares about the new leads other than the villain who died? Take your time.
What clickbait articles? Disney themselves have openly said they plan to make one SW movie every year for the next few decades.
By now we should've gotten the first movie of the Rian Johnson, a Taiki Watiti movie, the Ackolyte should've come out years ago, the Rogue Squadron movie got axed, Kenobi S2 got cancelled, Bobba S2 cancelled, Solo sequels cancelled, Lando movie never came out, Weiss & Benioff trilogy cancelled, Kevin Feige movie didn't come out, all things that were announced but never happened. I mean what are we talking about here, can you tell me why those never came out?
Hmmm I wonder if anything happened in the last few years that stopped movies from being made? Like maybe some kind of worldwide pandemic that prevented people from working on films and going to the cinema hence the pivot to online streaming services? Nah must've been a grand conspiracy where Disney are secretly losing money on these billions dollar movies! Yeah that makes sense...
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Dude COVID disrupted these productions >Even though Marvel resumed theirs
It's so painfully obvious you're some hack shill for Lucasfilm like Jason Ward
11 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession, Jason Ward
This didn't stop capeshit. It didn't stop Mission Impossible. It didn't stop high budget shows like House of the Dragon. Why did it stop Disney?
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST UTTERLY BTFO ME WITH SIMPLE FACTS YOURE BEING PAID BY DISNEY TO DO THIS
Concession accepted. Thanks for playing!
11 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession again, Jason Ward
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cope and seethe as much as you need mouseBlack person. Your movie is the biggest flop in the history of the world.
>The meltdown continues
You really upset, huh?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>t. disney shill sperging over some gay flop
11 months ago
Anonymous
As I look back, I think the mistake that I made --- I take the blame --- was a little too much, too fast. You can expect some slowdown
Bob Iger 2018
go easy on the disney kool-aid
Still crying that the multi billion dollar franchise is somehow a failure? Who are you trying to fool; me or yourself? KEK
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
>multibillion dollar franchise
Uh, nta but you do know that indy 5 is gonna cost your israeli employers a couple hundred million dollars in losses right? Idk about you, but if something loses that much money I would hesitate to call it a ‘billion dollar franchise’ more like a massive lodestone around the neck of the studio.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >it was covid in 2020 that killed star wars in 2018
obviously a mentally ill (You)
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cope and seethe as much as you need mouseBlack person. Your movie is the biggest flop in the history of the world.
11 months ago
Anonymous
YOU CANT JUST UTTERLY BTFO ME WITH SIMPLE FACTS YOURE BEING PAID BY DISNEY TO DO THIS >Concession accepted. Thanks for playing!
[...]
[...] >The meltdown continues
You really upset, huh?
>>The meltdown continues >You really upset, huh?
[...]
Still crying that the multi billion dollar franchise is somehow a failure? Who are you trying to fool; me or yourself? KEK
>Still crying that the multi billion dollar franchise is somehow a failure? Who are you trying to fool; me or yourself? KEK
I think the Lucasfilm shill is in meltdown mode. Maybe it really is Jason Ward
11 months ago
Anonymous
Probably isn't. Lucasfilm has an emergency meeting that everybody has to attend.
Something about a shitflinging contest between the marketing department and the movie making one.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>multibillion dollar franchise
Uh, nta but you do know that indy 5 is gonna cost your israeli employers a couple hundred million dollars in losses right? Idk about you, but if something loses that much money I would hesitate to call it a ‘billion dollar franchise’ more like a massive lodestone around the neck of the studio.
>rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >it was covid in 2020 that killed star wars in 2018
obviously a mentally ill (You)
>Get utterly BTFO and humiliated >Have no counter >Resort to adhoms
Every time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
cry for me Black person
>Three concessions at once
It's a lot but I'll accept them
11 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession again
11 months ago
Anonymous
>N-no u
KEK chuddie getting desperate
11 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession again, Chuddie
11 months ago
Anonymous
Too late. I got dubs and you didn't, making me the victor
11 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession, chuddie
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
cry for me Black person
11 months ago
Anonymous
>PAID BY DISNEY
everyone knows disney can't afford to pay shill anymore with that 20 billion hulu bill
>Maybe it really is Jason Ward
More like a mentally ill john campea
11 months ago
Anonymous
This didn't stop capeshit. It didn't stop Mission Impossible. It didn't stop high budget shows like House of the Dragon. Why did it stop Disney?
11 months ago
Anonymous
As I look back, I think the mistake that I made --- I take the blame --- was a little too much, too fast. You can expect some slowdown
Bob Iger 2018
There is one simple way to gauge how successful the sequels were - check out Disney's catalogue after the sequel trilogy ended. How many sequel characters did you see after the sequels ended? Where did Rey go? Finn? Poe? All the side characters? In all the novels and spin-offs films and shows, where are they? Surely if they were a success, we'd see more of them.
They disappeared. Literally all the spin-off films and shows and games after the sequels avoid the sequels and their characters. It's all about the OT/PT and jerking off those eras and those characters. Why? Can you guess? Put two and two together. Nobody gives a shit about Rey and the gang, Disney knows it. That's how you know the movies failed, and that's why any movie or show containing sequel stuff seems to get indefinitely delayed without any clear reason.
>sequels hugely successful
This can be proven false easily by observing how movie companies respond to fan sentiment.
After the Captain America movies, fanboys said "it would be cool if Bucky and the Falcon had a buddy cop movie" and then what do you know, a miniseries called Falcon and the Winter Soldier soon started filming! After season 2 of Daredevil, fanboys said "man the Punisher is so fricking cool I wish we could see more of him" and then what do you know, a Punisher show was announced soon after! DC saw how positively people reacted to the superhero teamup memes from Marvel so what do you know, they sprinted to make their own version as soon as it was humanely possible!
Content happens because movie companies look at fan sentiment, and they make the movie/show happen if they think the fans want it. Do you know why the miniseries Kenobi exists? Because Bob Iger (Disney CEO) looked at a poll by The Hollywood Reporter in August 2016 that asked which Star Wars character deserved a spin-off film, and Obi-Wan Kenobi was the overwhelming winner of a poll.
And this is what reveals the colossal failure of the sequel trilogy, because if they were as hugely successful and beloved as you're saying, then we'd undoubtedly see at least something related to them in Disney's barrage of shows and spin-offs. Some miniseries about Rey? Or Finn? Or Hux? About Poe? At least a cameo? But we see nothing. It's like they're being avoided, literally every single piece of content after the sequels ended, be it movie or game or comic or TV show, has been steering clear of sequel events or their characters. As if they could catch a virus if they get too close. That's how you can tell the sequels failed, companies make content based on fan sentiment and if they're obviously avoiding something that means the company believes the fans really don't want it.
Massive hype for the first new movie in a decade from the biggest ip in human history.
>TLJ
Sill had hype going in after the success of TFA and R1
>Solo
Bombed due to being boycotted from being immediately released right after TLJ trainwreck
>TROS
Promised to fix TLJ and is released during the absolute peak of the Disney brand thanks to success from Marvel.
There's the reasoning for your three billion dollar grosses right there. It won't be happening again until the brand is fixed and the brand won't be fixed as long as the same people are running it.
>Concedes they were massive successes
Well that was easy lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
>concedes they were failures
Well that was easy lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
>He thinks Captain Marvel was good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I even forgot to mention that TROS was actually riding on the coattails of The Mandalorian. The Mandalorian tv shoiw singlehandedly brought the brand back from the grave witch saved TROS at the box office.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I even forgot to mention that TROS was actually riding on the coattails of The Mandalorian. The Mandalorian tv shoiw singlehandedly brought the brand back from the grave witch saved TROS at the box office.
It didn't really save it at the box office, if you look earlier in the thread the movie cost half a billion to make and only got a billion worldwide
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but Mando is the reason TROS made the magic "billion" dollar number at the box office.
Star Wars is a merchandising empire, the movies are basically commercials. Sequel trilogy movies did so badly that Hasbro nearly went bankrupt, LEGO flat out told them they wouldn't be licensing any more sequel trilogy shit after all of the Rey sets ended up in overstock stores.
Funny thing, the reason Mandalorian didn't have any merch at launch was because all the toy and t-shirt companies were too leery of disney and didn't want to jump in until it was a hit.
>confirmed
By who? Disney? Oh, so they're still underway just like the Rian Johnson trilogy, or the Feige movie, or the Taika Waititi movie, or the Lando movie, or the Solo sequels? Weird how none of those seem to happen and get quietly cancelled
>It's already confirmed another trilogy is in the works and starring Rey.
yes, 2 more weeks and they start production
just 2 more weeks
just watch
any minute now
we're doing it
it's coming
totally real
not like the other 50 movies that we were totally starting production on
Totally bro. Just like the rogue squadron movie. And taika waitis movie. And the Benioff and weiss trilogy. And the rian Johnson trilogy. And the Kevin feign movie. Sure bro. It’ll be out in two more weeks lmaoooo
They assumed Star Wars was indestructible and would continue to print money because it was called Star Wars and retained the iconic imagery alone. In addition they attempted to broaden their female fanbase by disassociating from their male fanbase to the point where they were outright criticising them (thinking they would continue to buy merchandise anyway regardless), and it backfired horrendously. They misread the room spectacularly.
I want to thank him for making the best movie in the sequel trilogy, even if it was only a 3/5. He can actually come up with new ideas and interesting visuals unlike JJ, the great plagiarist. JJ Abrams is like Bob Dylan but if you replaced Dylan’s talent with nepotism.
Movies are 100% a psy-op at this point, especially for the youth. The people that own these properties have trillions. It's about propoganda/indoctrination/demoralization of the masses. It doesn't matter if they've run the franchise into the ground. It's served it's purpose.
You yourself don't know how it works. You've painted some infinite money boogeyman from Blackrock, but reality is different. Blackrock is not charity organization for companies, instead they want more money with their investments. If companies fail to make money, they eventually won't get shit from Blackrock. Disney already ran it's esg money to ground. Nothing can save them. Blackrock won't keep a company alive that keeps losing billions every year. Most Hollywood movie makers might be morons, but businessmen actually know their fields of expertise.
All of you have listed good reasons why Disney failed when creating Star Wars content, but you've all ignored the most egregious point of all: Kathleen Kennedy hates men and tries to push that worldview in every single Star Wars product from 2012 on.
The Marvel universe just has way more appealing characters that even normies know their names to keep the hype going, Stars Wars you need to be actually very into the comics or books to know some of these people
Marvel built each character and highlighted their personality, motivation, strength, weaknesses etc so once Avengers came you understood who Tony Stark was and who Thor was.
Star Wars literally said "Here's Rey shes a woman who lives on a desert planet, here's Finn he was a stormtrooper now he's good, ok you crazy kids get out there and show references to the previous movies!"
0 development. Really should've started with Finn as a Stormtrooper becoming more concerned about his actions and really showing why he wanted to switch to join the Rebels.
>SW:TLJ here's major personality change and a two minute flashback to explain why
Its about as reasonable as my GF being mad at me because I broke up with her in HER DREAMS
insane
Finn was butchered in the first 15 minutes of the movie, he literally goes from >I am sad because of dead comrades and dead civvies
to >EAT MY PLASMA CANNON YOU IMPERIAL PIGS
Got even worse when he started simping.
Finn, casted as a ugly big mouth Black with zero movie appeal, frick him, frick whoever cast him, frick JJ Abraham's frick Kathleen Kennedy, frick Disney and FRICK YOU if you like this monkey idiot
built each character and highlighted their personality, motivation, strength, weaknesses etc so once Avengers came you understood who Tony Stark was and who Thor was.
All of those characters have precisely the same quippy "personality".
I'm Gen-X and grew up in the absolute peak of the comics industry. Comics were my life in the way that cell phones are the lives of current era zoomers. Current era MCU is about as far from the spirit of the comics as you can get.
The easiest thing to point to, that represents the problem with Disney Star Wars, is the scene from Rise of Skywalker with all the ships.
It was clear someone, whether it was JJ or Kennedy or whoever, wanted to do an Avengers Endgame moment. But it ended up showing they didn't understand why Endgame worked for audiences. In Endgame, they had the build up from 11 years of films, each establishing characters.
Black Panther's arrival wouldn't have resonated with the audiences if he wasn't in Captain America: Civil War, the Black Panther film, and Avengers: Infinity War. Doctor Strange's arrival wouldn't have resonated without the Doctor Strange movie and his participation in Infinity War. The GOTG's arrival wouldn't have resonated with audiences without the first two films and Infinity War, and so on.
It doesn't work in Rise because most of the audience only watched the movies and maybe familiar with Lando and Wedge at most. It felt like they thought audiences would have that same Endgame feeling seeing ships from the previous movies but it doesn't work that way.
>former Senator Leia desperately asks the galactic citizens for help >not even a reply message
Meanwhile Lando just promised some dick pics and half the fricking galaxy came running.
1. Oversaturation
Star Wars is suppose to be an event.
2. Not having a plan or outline.
3. Sidelining the OT characters to push new OCs that aren’t as well developed or interesting. Example: who cares about Poe?
4. Mistreating the fans.
5. Weird obsession with feminism and making every main character a strong female that need no man. Even Mandalorian got cucked out of his own show by Bo-Katan.
We all know it was Rian Johnson that killed Star Wars. And no amount lf articles after TLJ telling us that we were wrong and toxic to dislike TLJ could change that
>Kathleen supported and loved every decision he made. She even approved tr first draft of the script.
I wager she was also primarily responsible for throwing out Lucas' outline for the sequel trilogy.
>If the wait between those two films was too long, fear not, as Disney won’t leave you waiting that long again ever. Ever. >According to Wired, Disney and Lucasfilm have decided to release a new Star Wars film every year until people stop going to see them at the cinema. Seeing as The Force Awakens recently became the fastest selling movie of all time, this probably won’t happen in our life times, if ever. >After talking with Lucasfilm’s president Kathleen Kennedy as well as the studio’s chief creative designer, John Knoll, writer Adam Rodgers wrote: “If the people at the Walt Disney Company, which bought Lucasfilm for $4 billion in 2012, have anything to say about it, the past four decades of Star Wars were merely prologue. >“If everything works out for Disney, and if you are old enough to have been conscious for the first Star Wars film, you will probably not live to see the last one. It’s the forever franchise.”
>This week, the new owners will see if the manufactured nostalgia trick has worked its magic as a new generation of fans soaked in peripheral marketing, get to have their own cinema experience. The early signs are that Disney needn’t worry. >Furthermore, the original films often enjoy successful re-runs on satellite channels and Episode 1 was re-released into cinemas a few years ago in converted 3D format. More opportunity, then, for parents to pursue this vicarious nostalgia and posit Star Wars as some kind of sacred text to their children, however displaced it might be from the original film. >It boils down to a rigorous and lucrative marketing plan that can continue ad infinitum with each subsequent generation. And it doesn’t end here either. >Disney are planning to create a multiverse approach to the new Star Wars films akin to that of their other brand acquisition, Marvel.
>“The purchase of Lucasfilm is an amazing coup for Disney to add to Disney animation, Pixar and Marvel. So just under this umbrella of brands that Disney has, the sky’s the limit.” >”‘Star Wars’ will bear fruit for the next 10, 20, even 100 years. This is a 100-year plan for Disney with all these various properties. Then these properties go to the small screen, then there’s product placement, products associated with ‘Star Wars.’” >Along with these films, “Inside Out,” the Marvel franchise and Pixar, Dergarabedian said the overall picture for Disney—on both big and small screen—“looks very bright indeed.”
>Disney hope that the new films, which are being developed by Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg, will be able to spin off into franchises of their own. It is believed that the first spin-off will focus on the backstory of Jedi Master Yoda. >Horn however would not be drawn on the increasing rumours that Episode VII will reunite original stars Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher in some capacity. The new movie is about to enter production, and will be directed by JJ Abrams.
>there are currently six more star wars movies coming in the next 6 years (article from 2015 after TFA)
i wonder how much longer people will keep immediately trusting disney on these "this new project is coming SOON we swear!" headlines, i think even normalgays at this point have become aware it's almost always a lie
>I can't wait for the Obi-wan movie! >Oh. But then there's the Boba Fett movie! >Hm. Those Game of Thrones guys are still doing a trilogy, right? I hear it'll be about Darth Revan! >Well what about Rian Johnson? He still has his trilogy. >Omg, look! The Acolyte! That looks pretty cool! >A trilogy based on Rey? Okay! Let's go! >Disney for 100 more years!
>This week, the new owners will see if the manufactured nostalgia trick has worked its magic as a new generation of fans soaked in peripheral marketing, get to have their own cinema experience. The early signs are that Disney needn’t worry. >Furthermore, the original films often enjoy successful re-runs on satellite channels and Episode 1 was re-released into cinemas a few years ago in converted 3D format. More opportunity, then, for parents to pursue this vicarious nostalgia and posit Star Wars as some kind of sacred text to their children, however displaced it might be from the original film. >It boils down to a rigorous and lucrative marketing plan that can continue ad infinitum with each subsequent generation. And it doesn’t end here either. >Disney are planning to create a multiverse approach to the new Star Wars films akin to that of their other brand acquisition, Marvel.
>“The purchase of Lucasfilm is an amazing coup for Disney to add to Disney animation, Pixar and Marvel. So just under this umbrella of brands that Disney has, the sky’s the limit.” >”‘Star Wars’ will bear fruit for the next 10, 20, even 100 years. This is a 100-year plan for Disney with all these various properties. Then these properties go to the small screen, then there’s product placement, products associated with ‘Star Wars.’” >Along with these films, “Inside Out,” the Marvel franchise and Pixar, Dergarabedian said the overall picture for Disney—on both big and small screen—“looks very bright indeed.”
Praise god for Rian Johnson for ruining this vision. I'm not even a huge Star Wars fan, but this just sounds insufferable.
I will definitely look for some more as it's fascinating. A window into a different world with Star Wars being the hegemon of pop culture. Articles about this being multi-generational thing rumors even taht Lucas might write the movies.
But I like this pic from one of the articles. When everything revolved around Star Wars even other franchises. Look, Lord of the Rings. Not in the best shape but I wouldn't call it smaller than Star Wars. And hey there's Godzilla. A franchise older than Star Wars that will easily outlive it.
>Disney just bought the mother of all money-printing machines >And that's why Disney is on a Popular Movie Franchise Spending Spree. In 2006, it paid $11 billion for Pixar. In 2009, it paid $4 billion for Marvel. And yesterday, it paid another $4 billion to acquire Lucasfilm and the right to continue the Star Wars franchise into the future. >Will the next Star Wars movie be any good? Who knows. But knowing what we know about the state of the movie business, this was a smart buy for four reasons. >Star Wars has a lot of room to grow overseas. George Lucas was great at building one of the most popular movie franchises in American history. Disney is great at building international brands. Together, analysts think they can take Star Wars global, boosting revenue from box office, TV licensing, and merchandise.
>“That is a very good idea, John,” Kennedy said. So … green light. Apparently that’s how you get to make a Star Wars movie. >Let me put it another way: If everything works out for Disney, and if you are (like me) old enough to have been conscious for the first Star Wars film, you will probably not live to see the last one. It’s the forever franchise. >These new movies won’t just be sequels. That’s not the way the transnational entertainment business works anymore. Forget finite sequences; now it’s about infinite series. >Nonfans might scoff, but the universe of Star Wars has more than an audience—it has followers. And followers are emotionally invested, which makes redeveloping it a daunting task. “The first question J.J. asked us when we all sat down was, what do we want to feel?” Kennedy says. >The answers Kennedy’s brain trust gave: A sense of a beginning. A sense of urgency but also humor. Working with Lawrence Kasdan, who wrote The Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi, Abrams developed another list: “The feeling we wanted was from the first trilogy,” Kasdan says. “It’s fun, it’s delightful, it moves like a son of a b***h, and you don’t question too much.” >pisode VIII is in preproduction down the hall, and stand-alones about young Han Solo and the fan-favorite bad guy Boba Fett are percolating. It seems complicated. It seems, I say to Kennedy, like you’re going to need more than just emotions to make it all work. >“I love how you’ve already jumped to the conclusion that it’s all working,” she answers, laughing. “Oh my God, there is so much to get right. It’s by no means laid out beat for beat. I’ll borrow a line from Raiders of the Lost Ark: We’re making this up as we go.”
>Yes, Abrams is feeling pressured:“I do feel like there’s a little bit more of a burden on Larry and me to come up with a story that could at least be the beginning of what transpires over three films,” he told Wired. >There’s going to be a lot more where that came from: >Kind of unrelated, but it looks like that new Indiana Jones is definitely happening:
When asked about new movies, Kennedy explained she had a lot on her plate, but: “She takes a breath. ‘And then I’ll be working with them on Indiana Jones.’”
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Oh a bonus >Kathleen Kennedy already had her hands full getting a new trilogy of “Star Wars” films and related spinoffs off the ground at Disney. Now the Lucasfilm chief also has Indiana Jones to manage. >When the studio bought Lucasfilm last year for $4 billion, Disney chief Bob Iger said that while Indiana Jones was part of the acquisition, there were still “some encumbrances” in how it could make money from the adventurer. That included future films, given that Paramount controlled the rights to them at the time. The franchise had earned $1.9 billion to date. >And with a character like Indy, films are seen as the key in driving interest in everything else that involves the character. >Longtime “Indiana Jones” franchise producer Frank Marshall may have said that he believed “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” was “the last hurrah” for the series, but Disney’s latest move signals that Lucasfilm’s archeologist hasn’t gone on his final adventure just yet.
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Oh a bonus >Kathleen Kennedy already had her hands full getting a new trilogy of “Star Wars” films and related spinoffs off the ground at Disney. Now the Lucasfilm chief also has Indiana Jones to manage. >When the studio bought Lucasfilm last year for $4 billion, Disney chief Bob Iger said that while Indiana Jones was part of the acquisition, there were still “some encumbrances” in how it could make money from the adventurer. That included future films, given that Paramount controlled the rights to them at the time. The franchise had earned $1.9 billion to date. >And with a character like Indy, films are seen as the key in driving interest in everything else that involves the character. >Longtime “Indiana Jones” franchise producer Frank Marshall may have said that he believed “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” was “the last hurrah” for the series, but Disney’s latest move signals that Lucasfilm’s archeologist hasn’t gone on his final adventure just yet.
Lucasfilm doesn't own any of ET do they? Not even 1%?
I saw during the closing credits of some of the original cast Star Trek movies that ILM had producer credits. Does that mean George Lucas owned a tiny sliver of Star Trek?
Four reasons Disney Star Wars will succeed
1. It could get big overseas
2. The guy no longer in charge is pretty competent
3. It could get big overseas
4. ??? big overseas?
Eventually I realized that what Johnson did was completely logical. The Farce Awakened may seem like a coherent film but its a lazy rehash filled to the brim with various mystery boxes that even someone like Spielberg or Cameron couldn't fill in a satisfying way.
israelite israelite Abrahms fricked the whole project up from the very first movie and Johnson simply took his complete mess of a mystery box collection and decided to crash this franchise with no survivors.
The other part of it is that you can make a case that Rian indirectly caused JJ to crash his career/rep because DIsney for some reason decided to bring JJ back
They didn't decide to bring Jar Jar back, they just had no fricking choice. Even somebody like Rian Johnson understood that the first movie of a the (unplanned) trilogy was unsalvageable.
Johnson got handed the keys to a car that was leaking gas, oil, breaking fluid and was missing a tire. So of course instead of trying to ace his portion of the rally, Rian decided to just crash the damn thing straight into a brick wall and peace out.
Of course there wouldn't be a single fricking director in the entirety of hollywood willing to direct the third instalment. It would be like asking a mechanic to build you a ferrari out of some scrap metal and a tube.
Not even possible in the realm of theory, thus Jar Jar Abrahms had to do his "best" to try and save the trilogy.
>They didn't decide to bring Jar Jar back, they just had no fricking choice.
They already had Trevorrow but pushed him out for some reason
It wouldn't have been good but if that leaked story was his, it would've made more sense than fricking Rise of Skywalker despite the stupid things in it
JJ somehow made stupider moves under the guise of claiming it was for the fans, which made me wonder if he even understood what the fan complaints were about
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I might be mistaken but didn't Treverrow back out by himself after TLJ was released?
In either case I don't think the franchise was salvageable even after the first movie which is arguable the least shitty one. After the second one Satan himself would give up on fixing it.
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>I might be mistaken but didn't Treverrow back out by himself after TLJ was released?
No, the leaked script actually incorporated things from Last Jedi into it. Luke was a Force Ghost for instance.
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Can't remember the last time I was morbidly curious like this but ok.
Guess I can be happy Jar Jar decided to come back and frick shit up 3 times harder than anybody else on the planet could have.
That fricking israelite got demoted to making movies about fricking Hotwheels, lmao
>According to Wired, Disney and Lucasfilm have decided to release a new Star Wars film every year until people stop going to see them at the cinema.
mission accomplished
Jesus christ, quotes that age like milk?
It's actually hilarious that they fumbled a sure thing on their second mainline entry so bad that it sunk the entire franchise with it
>How did it all go so wrong?
Big companies in the midlate 2010s and early 2020s were convinced you could spit in the face of your consumers and they'd still buy your stuff anyway. That's why Disney went for the "the Force is female Star Wars doesn't need to be for boys anymore" route with a thing that's clearly for boys, they were convinced everyone would it eat it up anyway and that girls and gays and Black folk would be the new audience.
Their mistake is that girls and gays and Black folk largely don't care about Star Wars, and the majority of the audience will always be white men + asian men + brown men (none of these 3 groups want girlbosses or Black folk or gays in Star Wars). So when you try to alienate those 3 groups, they will eventually lose interest. It won't happen immediately (people still went to see The Last Jedi) but over time the frustration and disinterest accumulates until we have Solo megaflopping, all the projects being axed due to a lack of interest, half-baked low budget shows rotting on streaming services with low viewership, until we reach the point of even normies on social media laughing at Disney for being shit and flopping more than ever.
The core audience walked away because Disney pushed them away, it's not surprising. Bringing them back would be incredibly easy, the 2019 Jedi game is just a white guy jedi doing basic jedi things in a normal Star Wars story and it sold more than Elden Ring did, because clearly that's what people wanted to see. Disney doesn't care about that though, they'll probably just make more shit like baby Leia running from Red Hot Chili Peppers, or gay power rangers on fluorescent motorbikes from Bobba Fett, or Carrie Fisher's corpse floating in space, or Luke milking that green cow tit thing.
>Their mistake is that girls and gays and Black folk largely don't care about Star Wars, and the majority of the audience will always be white men + asian men + brown men (none of these 3 groups want girlbosses or Black folk or gays in Star Wars).
this
>It won't happen immediately
That was actually unique to Star Wars, likely because of when it came out. People were still not used to franchise installments being made to spite the audience yet, so they gave TLJ an honest try. Now that people just assume these pieces of shit are created to spit in their face, they fail out of the gate. Check out Indiana Jones 5 and the Box Office Bomb
Do you guys honestly get upset by marketing stuff like that? How invested in a brand do you need to be for bullshit like „the force is female“ to scrape you?
Yes if a product or service releases marketing insulting me I'm not likely to buy it, is this really some kind of big shocker? I know this might be a crazy concept to a person like you but the point of marketing is to promote what you're selling, not to blog about your political beliefs.
Marketing bs just doesn‘t faze me one way or the other. I wasn‘t gonna watch this movie anyways, but if I was, I can‘t imagine this being the reason for me not to go
I understand that this isn‘t applicable to some market tested conglomerate, but I appreciate artists that have integrity enough to have some contempt for their audiences. I don‘t want to be pandered to, I don‘t want you to give me what I want, I want you to do what you wanna do. That goes doublely so for general audiences (including Cinemaphile) because those guys have no fricking clue what they want. Reddit is always super happy when stars are nice and appreciative of their fans, I just couldn‘t be bothered to care about that stuff
>I don‘t want to be pandered to, I don‘t want you to give me what I want, I want you to do what you wanna do.
You might think I am being sarcastic, but I'm not and I 100% agree. That is a core tenet of what art is. It is also EXTACTLY why k.k. is the wrong person for the job. What she wants and what the fanbase wants are not aligned. And never will be. It is not who she is. You need a creator who's INTERNAL desires and beliefs are naturally aligned with the fanbase. Not someone who will cynically pander to what the fans want. And that is key. Because pandering gets you the J.J. Abrams of the world.
People barely tolerated 6 star wars movies over the course of 40 years. One per year burning people out on star wars was a guarantee. Disney execs are fricking morons if they thought this kind of slop spam would be warmly received.
quarterly profits and stock increases in the short term are all that matter to them. and the ceos still get their golden parachutes. why do they even meddle?
If it were really all about the money, they should be pandering to the most base desires of audiences instead of trying to be socially progressive. Star wars needs more sexy aliens in skimpy outfits, and tough sexist guys who kiss pretty girls even though the girl is saying no but secretly wants it. This is what Star Wars used to be. Even during the prequel movies, Lucas had the good sense to cast Natalie Portman and put her in revealing outfits. We don't get any of this from Disney, they just aren't interested in making the sort of things that people actually like.
My brother's a teenager and I'm a bit older but still a zoomer, and we'd rather watch the zendaya threesome than slave leia
With that hair and those booties slave leia just looks so fricking dated, like your grandpa's idea of sexy, she's not even fricking barefoot, what's hot about that?
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Leia was never particularly attractive in the first place. The point is that they put her in a revealing outfit to show audiences what they wanted to see, and that approach to film making is now essentially gone. Stop being autistic.
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But I don't want to see that, and neither do modern audiences
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You're a dude in your 30s larping as a child on Cinemaphile, you need institutionalization not films catered to you.
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Speak for yourself homosexual
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>modern people don't like sex goyim, stop thinking about sex. sex is bad, do not reproduce
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Imagine thinking zendaya is attractive lmao queer
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Zendaya is average at best. Looks okay but not jaw-dropping attractive.
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Leia showing her breasts after 6 years of dressing like a nun is the type of fan service we'll never get again
It is mainly about the money, the suits are just wienery, they think they can have their cake and eat it too. They think they can attract new demographics like black women (aka demographics that don't give a shit about Star Wars) so they will focus the movies and casting and advertising on attracting them, and they think the core audience will watch anyway because we're filthy consumers who'll swallow anything and never walk away. Which IS true but only in the short term the first one or two times. Over time, the core audience walks away. That's what the investors are probably starting to understand, you can't really have both groups.
Kiger and israeliteleen didn't just want the money form various shitskins, they wanted to spread their shitty propaganda using the various popular franchises under their ownership.
Of course you are correct, they thought they can shit on white men while STILL making a profit and that proved to be fundamentally false.
By the sixth movie people were generally burned out and wanted the Star Wars spam to stop. Even if you discount the gap years between the 3rd and 4th movies and just look at the second set of three movies, you had 3 movies coming out over 6 years and that was already too much too fast for most people. By the time the sixth movie came out, most people were apathetic.
One star wars movie every five years is pushing it, any faster than that is slop spam.
>By the sixth movie people were generally burned out and wanted the Star Wars spam to stop.
No. You're lying. You're speaking for yourself and yourself alone.
Star Wars as a setting is big enough to more or less fit most other genres in its setting. You don't need epic Jedi vs Sith battles, you can do comedy films, crime fighting stories, drama shows about the rich and famous on Coruscant. Gritty war movies about the clones etc etc.
Obviously requires a lot of talent, patience and timing but it could work.
I couldn't find that article but I remember one about projected longevity of Star Wars (projected by Disney after they bought it) and it was like 40 years.
Disney is following the same path that General Motors did and it'll end with demanding a bailout from Congress because they're "too big to fail" despite years of poor business decisions.
>Mission Impossible is gone.
MI is only popular because Cruise does one death defying stunt per movie and people go see that movie for that stunt. If Cruise has an accident and is crippled or dies, MI is done.
im still blown away theyre doubling down on fricking Rey
like, how fricking inept can you be and say "yeah, Rise of Skywalker was a good film and made good money"
and thinking anyone cares after 5 years when you've kept poisoning the well with diluting the brand instead of creating more mysteries
They're not doubling down on Rey. If they did, you'd have seen her in 2 more movies and 3 shows by now. But all the post-Rey stuff has anxiously been avoiding Rey, that's not a coincidence. All this "new Rey movie" stuff is just Disney throwing out feelers to gauge if there's any interest in a new Rey movie, I guarantee it hasn't actually been greenlit yet. Disney has already done the "this movie is definitely coming in a few years" thing 50 times in the next decade and it only ended up being true the few times people actually got excited for the idea.
They stuck to the Rian Johnson and D&D trilogies totally coming out bro for like 5 years before they stopped mentioning them very quietly. Truth is they have no fricking clue what to do and they’re increasingly lost at it. They’re in a state of total creative sterility, they can’t do anything right.
>Disney has already done the "this movie is definitely coming in a few years" thing 50 times in the next decade and it only ended up being true the few times people actually got excited for the idea.
This.
Do you know why the Mandalorian exists? Because of constant social media posts about how cool it would be to just to make a space western about a bounty hunter fricking shit up in Star Wars.
Do you know why Boba Fett exists? Because of constant social media posts about how cool Boba Fett is and how he should get a series.
Do you know why Kenobi exists? Because people grew to like Hayden and most people like Obi-Wan, and they talked about the gap between episode 3 and 4 having potential for stories on social media years before that.
Do you know why Andor exists? Because people reacted to it more warmly than the sequel trilogy, liked the Hispanic and the imperial officers, and talked about how Star Wars should have that kind of style more often.
Disney's marketing and social media analysts are what decides future projects. That's why most of the other projects never lived past the announcement stage, because the public's reaction to those announcements didn't contain enough excitement.
>instead of creating more mysteries
The "Lost" aka "mystery box" approach to writing needs to die. Audiences catch on eventually and won't forgive you for it.
I didnt mean to convey it that way. I mean "more mysteries" like the opening of TRotJ, where we see now Luke is dressed in black and does neutral evil type of stuff with the force, from force choking to minimal dialogue
that sort of "mystery"
the slow burn, teasing approach
instead of EXPOSITION EXPOSITION MACGUFFIN EXPOSITION
>im still blown away theyre doubling down on fricking Rey
Because you don't get it
Kennedy is just announcing these films in the hopes of making it seem like Lucasfilm is still making movies
No one believes they'll be made other than desperate Lucasfilm shills and doomer Youtubers
She's buying time for sure, but what's her plan when none of these movies happen? Is she hoping that 2 years from now she can just cancel it and claim a new super project is happening and just repeat that cycle?
I mean, I guess it's been working for the last 6 years.
>Kennedy is just announcing these films in the hopes of making it seem like Lucasfilm is still making movies
This. They're just trying to come off as confident and like they know what they're doing, so the investors and the public don't catch on to the truth that they're just biding their time. What I'm confused about is how are people still swallowing the "we contacted [famous director] and there is now a new Star Wars movie in the works, coming Soon!(tm)" story the 20th time in a row when the vast majority of those movies never seem to happen or get quietly axed?
>What I'm confused about is how are people still swallowing the "we contacted [famous director] and there is now a new Star Wars movie in the works, coming Soon!(tm)" story the 20th time in a row when the vast majority of those movies never seem to happen or get quietly axed?
Initially there were people in the media who still reported on it as if they were for real
But this year there's been a growing number of people in the media mocking Lucasfilm for announcing projects that aren't getting released
>buy star wars >it prints money, so just make whatever bullshit without respecting the lore or characters >surprised that you can in fact kill the golden goose
>youtube homosexuals won against a multi-trillion dollar media company with a multi-billion dollar franchise
if that's how you want to cope with liking a subpar film
israelites in hollywood are vile disgusting pieces of shit and they know that even if they pretend not to.
As such they have an obsession with taking evil characters from the past and twisting their stories until something "good" can be attributed to them. It is a fundamentally pathetic coping mechanism as well as part of their agenda to destroy western culture.
How does Kathleen Kennedy still have a job or in charge of anything? All she's proven is that she doesn't know how to sustain a successful franchise and has now driven two into the ground.
There are rumors that she has a clause in her countract that says as long as she's an executive producer on any upcoming project, as long as there is technically something in the pipeline, she can't be fired. That's why over all these years there's never been a second when there's no project in development, even if barely any projects seem to come out and most of them end up being cancelled - it's because a lot of those projects only exist on paper so she has a legal reason to keep her job. It's like she's constantly juggling and keeping at least one ball in the air. Just a rumor though.
Remember when Disney hired the guys making Game of Thrones to make Star Wars and those guys decided to run the show into the ground ASAP and made a mess to bad that Disney just quietly cancelled everything.
don't even care about this franchise since he made those horrible CGI edits to the originals then the prequels just cemented the fact George Lucas is a massive fraud enabled by a bunch of mindless morons
>Alden Ehrenreich confirmed his contract deal to appear as Han Solo extended for two additional films, giving the studio the option to pursue a sequel to Solo: A Star Wars Story, or feature him in other anthology films in a supporting capacity.[175] Emilia Clarke, who played Qi'ra, also signed on for future installments.[177]
>Ron Howard said that while no Solo sequel was in development, it was up to the fans to decide.[178] Critics noted the film intentionally left room open for sequels.[179]
>On June 20, 2018, Collider claimed that all future anthology films were on hold due to the disappointing financial performance of Solo.[183] A day later, Lucasfilm denied the rumors as "inaccurate" and confirmed that there are multiple unannounced Solo films in development.[184] Bob Iger has said that the production of new films would go on hiatus after 2019's The Rise of Skywalker, though none were cancelled.[185]
>In December 2022, Howard confirmed that Lucasfilm had no plans for a sequel to Solo.[197]
You are not wrong. The fanbase had become toxic towards G.L. thanks to RLM. So he sold it. He regrets it to this day though.
K.K. is REALLY good at the long game and played everyone like a fiddle. Especially George. To hide that much hatred and bitterness for so long is god tier levels of scheming and deception.
in the 2020s video games have eclipsed video games as the most hyped form of entertainment. there was Elden Ring, and upcoming GTA VI will probably be 10x as hyped as The Force Awakens was
Solo
Solo was not the issue. The Last Jedi was the issue. Solo was the first consequence of that damage.
Solo was my least disliked Mouse Wars movie. Although I still haven’t seen Rise of Skywalker but o doubt that would change my opinion.
>Solo
I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but Solo was the only nu-star wars film that actually felt like a star wars movie. Even with moronic shit like Maul's cameo and infamous "I have no people".
>it felt like a Star Wars movie because it was an endless nostalgia hit of Han Solo getting all of his action figure accessories in a single weekend
this
it wasn't bad at all honestly
the real issue was/is with tlj
Shut up Rian.
In retrospect solo wasn't even that bad at least not compared to TLJ/Boba Fett/Obi Wan.
The Mandalorian BTFO all of the movies they made
While true the Mandalorian is still garbage, its just at the top of the Disney garbage pile.
only the first season was good
first season, then they saw the popularity and did the marvel things where crossover bloat fricks up the product
>the vulture producers swoop in after season 1 and add all their tough action girl characters
>then they fire the only believable tough action girl for not having the correct political views
>The Mandalorian BTFO all of the movies they made
S3 sucked.
Because Kathleen Kennedy and her Minions were busy ruining episode 9.
The latest season was trash
First season was fun
>Han Solo prequel story with a new actor no one knows
>Obi Wan story where he fights Vader multiple times, using the same actors from the prequels
Imagine you’re a Disney exec. Which of these would you actually release in theaters, and which one would you push to Disney+?
They were both going to be movies, but the failure of Solo made them cancel all spin-off movie plans and turn Obi-Wan into a show
Boba Fett also was going to be a movie. Solo Boba Fett and Obi Wan were going to be a connected trilogy. Darth Maul and Emilia Clarke would have linked them together. It would have ended with a Obi Wan vs Maul fight. The cartoon already doing this had no bearing on them wanting to do this
The truth is that no one beyond Star Wars geeks ever gave a shit about Obi-Wan or his story. And they liked Han Solo because of Harrison Ford
And really, the initial success of Star Wars was mainly due to luck and timing with how the state of cinema was in the late 70s. It was an entirely different landscape and that's why this big blockbuster blew everyone away. But now when every movie is a big blockbuster and every TV show is prestige genre drama, Star Wars is just another property in a sea of dozens. The generation of nerds that were loyal to the brand are dying out. There will be no one new hopping on board because what is there to like? The best movie from the franchise came out 40 years before the next generation was even born. The average release date of a movie on Netflix is 2019. No one watches old movies except old people. The franchise is over, they can never recapture the original excitement nor the excitement of the return in the 90s
Nope.
This
You are in denial
Solo was 100X better than the abomination that was Obi-Wan.
Obi Wan could have been really good if they had written a completely different story. Don't involve with him Leia at all. Pit him against Maul and the Inquisitors. Ewon Morton's Obi Wan is good. They had to actively try to make it bad.
Kill off the material that had kept Star Wars profitable in the decades between trilogies. Kill off the male demographic that had done the bulk of the paying for official, semi official, and nonofficial license work. I'm not calling the EU full of gems or saying that only pandering to one group is necessary, but you don't slaughter your best bull while his balls are full and producing.
This isn't the franchise you're looking for.
She's right. The "men" who still care about Star Wars will watch anything the mouse shits out. Might as well try to expand the audience.
I haven't watched anything since TLJ. I pirated a few games but that's about it.
And the collapse of the franchise after she said that was pure coincidence, right?
It didn’t work. There’s no obsessive female fans. They did not succeed in making the type of movie women like. George did a better job at that. What they did try was to delete Luke or make a fene Luke. Except she had no background story when trying to jam her into the Skywalker series . Fricking genius
And instead you created the biggest sequel drop of all time, set a new record for second week drops with that same movie, created the first trilogy ever to lose one BILLION DOLLARS from the first to the last, and managed to cause Hasbro to lose 300 million dollars on "Partner brands" in a year with two major star wars releases, one of them being a mainline movie.
You thought they'd buy anything, they'd always come back, but somehow you proved that adage wrong. Instead of expanding the audience, they imploded it on a level we just don't have a comparison for. Imagine a fricking sequel losing 732 million dollars in any franchise? Imagine the third movie in a trilogy losing a BILLION? A fricking billion dollars! Disney is hurting for one of those right now, and they burned away that much money somehow just by sheer virtue of making the average joe say "I would rather watch an attempt at an arthouse Joker than the new Star Wars movie."It cannot be understated just how big of a frickup this is, it's sheer mind boggling that such a thing could happen. That Star Wars, of all things, could be a brand nobody wants the toys for. PEOPLE DON'T WANT STAR WARS TOYS. It's like if Pokemon merch suddenly dried up, and the games suddenly lost half their sales between 2 entries. People would be stunned, "How could POKEMON fail that hard?!" But here you have an even more consistent seller for far longer and what was, in 2012 when Star Wars was bough, far more successful. Star Wars went DOWN 4 rankings in the most successful franchises during the biggest push of it's lifetime.
Genuinely, I'm happy I'm alive to see it. This is a once in a generation media frickup, I'll never see a dumpster fire burn this bright again. Star Wars was the ultimate proof no franchise, none of them, are bulletproof.
You don't know what the word adage means.
The sequel trilogy lost a billion dollars? Is that what you are trying to say here?
You used alot of words but didn't say much and did it in a really hard to understand way. Work on your communication skills.
NTA but an adage is like a saying. It really wasn't hard to follow, and I'm ESL.
>if I don't understand the argument, that means I win
>You don't know what the word adage means.
>a proverb or short statement expressing a general truth.
"Star Wars fans will buy anything, no matter how crappy!"
>The sequel trilogy lost a billion dollars?
You're some kind of moron. Rise of Skywalker made 1 BILLION less than TFA.
>You used alot of words but didn't say much and did it in a really hard to understand way
Basic literacy issue. Not even skill, you're just plain old moronic. No fuss no muss, nothing special, just moronic.
>>The sequel trilogy lost a billion dollars?
>You're some kind of moron. Rise of Skywalker made 1 BILLION less than TFA.
Oh it turned out to be even worse than that. For a long time people assumed the budget was only $275 million. This year it turned out the budget was actually $400-500 million
If you assume that the marketing costs weren't factored into this, that means they only did a little better than break even, which is probably why there's been no Sequel Trilogy push other than empty announcements
Oh I believe it, but Anon was talking about the actual grosses. Like imagine if Endgame made... well, fricking Rise of Skywalker money. After Infinity War made 2 billion? Nobody would believe it. Such a consistent seller dropping so hard from the previous entry? Fricking madness.
This fricking happened. This is real. More than 1 out of every 3 TLJ tickets were sold in the first 3 days, it had worse legs than Attack of the Clones, and somehow shareholders weren't losing their minds. You see it and you feel like a number got fudged somewhere, but goddamn. This is somehow real. Star Wars is worth less than Minions.
>SW:FA - 2 billion dollar movie only made 100-200million return
>all the other ones lost money or broke even
those UK tax leaks were brutal
can't wait until they find the returns for Indy5
>$400-500 million
Fricking hell and I thought Indy 5 was their biggest single movie flop.
You forgot about Solo
Indy 5 is possibly $429 million after the marketing costs are added in; if it doesn't make a billion it'd be a bigger flop than Rise
430 millies is a spicy number but nevermind a billion, from what I heard and saw from various israelitetubers not a single cinema any of them visited had more than a dozen or so people, during peak hours mind you.
This absolute shitshow won't even make enough money to pay for the catering.
Why was Last Jedi so cheap?
>Why was Last Jedi so cheap?
No massive reshoots. It was the exact movie they wanted to make from the get go. Which is all you need to know about why its all such a shit show right now.
I would love 500 page or so non-fiction book on this massive frick up and all the BTS drama
clearly she isn't right given that the brand has collapsed
KK hates Whites, heterosexuals, Christians and men. The problem is that she ensures the projects she has a say in reflect those beliefs.
Again, the dumb c**t has no idea what she is doing.
Proving that feminist can't handle leadership roles.
This unironically sums up her thinking. It's pretty straightforward.
Men make up the majority of audience-watchers. So if they can appeal to women, they can theoretically double their audience. The gamble is assuming that men will watch regardless of what they do.
This gamble did not pay off. Doubly so since women didn't enjoy the shit they put out either (trannies aren't women)
> So if they can appeal to women, they can theoretically double their audience.
this is one of the things causing so many problems in male dominated hobbies, they want the audience they don't have and consider the one they do to be permanent, never considering that going for mass appeal may alienate their longtime fans
she's basically like a divorced woman forcing a sex change on George Lucas's baby out of spite.
>for as long as it can
that isn't going to be much longer
Thanks to the magic power of KK : turning gold into shit.
It can go on until inflation collapses the system. It's your tax money paying for their losses
Explain how they get expenses paid for them out of public money.
yes yes we know incel, 2 more weeks until kathleen kennedy finally gets fired and disney goes bankrupt
uh, sweaty, they haven't made a new SW movie since The Rise of Skywalker.
It does appear that the stock has reverted to the 2016-era. Any more flopping and I think it’s going really damage the company. It’s like they went out of their way to shit up their own products over the past 7 years. It’s weird as hell. I’ve never seen anything like this.
I was reminded today that in essence Yidney was never supposed to be a primarily movie making company. They are, or are supposed to be, a theme park company that uses movies to attract people to their properties in Florida.
Now the side hustle has gone so fricking bad their main business is getting rocked by it.
Nevermind the shit they pulled with Splash Mountain and the like.
israelites insisted on using Disney as their main podium for preaching of their disgusting message and now the whole thing has started catching fire.
>How did it all go so wrong?
Being bought out by Disney. See what happened to Pixar and what's finally happening to Marvel.
They thought Star Wars was like Marvel and that it had enough backup material to warrant slop every year.
It did. They tossed it out
>It did. They tossed it out
It's not. Marvel at least has the illusion of difference with the different character genres and settings, even if it's all set through the same MCU formula filter
>They thought Star Wars was like Marvel and that it had enough backup material to warrant slop every year.
They did not have any care or concept of old EU material whatsoever. k.k.flat out said EU material did not exist. She had no concept or knowledge of any of it. It was only after the creative failure of the sequels and the 'relative' success of anything Filoni related that current Disney/Lucasfilm started to acknowledge the existence of the EU and mine new material from it in the way that the MCU mines material from old Marvel comics.
>I'm Yoda
>just Yoda? Nah, you're Yoda Solo from now on
It still hilarious that Disney spent billions on acquiring SW and billions more on advertising and propagating it, hoping it would become the next Marvel Cinematic Universe. Instead they created a trilogy that killed Star Wars in the eyes of most of the audience, two more side flicks that both flopped because people were still angry over the trilogy, a couple of low budget stream shows and over a dozen of cancelled and axed movie and TV projects. It was supposed to be their golden goose but instead they ran it into the ground.
The people working on it literally killed han Luke and Leia in every movie. It’s so bad I can’t remember if Leia is still alive at the end of the Rey trilogy.
Rey literally murders her by killing Kylo while Leia is connected to him with the Force.
>It’s so bad I can’t remember if Leia is still alive at the end of the Rey trilogy.
Yesn't.
i don’t think rogue one flopped. solo certainly did tho
RO didn't flop but it also wasn't a smash hit justifying much more of its kind.
you get what you fricking deserve dot avi
Meanwhile in reality: the sequel trilogy made a billion+ dollars each and were hugely successful among critics and audiences alike
Yes, that's why they haven't made anymore and their theme park closed down after operating for less than a year. Because it was so successful.
Oof reality hurts doesn't it chuddies?
Yeah, it hurts to know that Disney's Star Wars is dying.
>No counter argument
I accept your concession. Run along now little chudsters
I accept your concession, Jason Ward
>were hugely successful among critics and audiences alike
What critics?
Go look at all the articles in this thread. Star Wars was supposed to pump out a huge movie every year for the next 100 years. Can you tell me why that didn't happen? Why with every new movie, the viewership and the week-to-week dropoffs kept getting worse? Why the social media reputation of Star Wars kept plummeting? Why nobody cares about the new leads other than the villain who died? Take your time.
>NOOOOO IGNORE THOSE STATISTICS AND FIGURES WHAT ABOUT MUH CLICKBAIT ARTICLES???
hahaha
You mean like you're doing?
What clickbait articles? Disney themselves have openly said they plan to make one SW movie every year for the next few decades.
By now we should've gotten the first movie of the Rian Johnson, a Taiki Watiti movie, the Ackolyte should've come out years ago, the Rogue Squadron movie got axed, Kenobi S2 got cancelled, Bobba S2 cancelled, Solo sequels cancelled, Lando movie never came out, Weiss & Benioff trilogy cancelled, Kevin Feige movie didn't come out, all things that were announced but never happened. I mean what are we talking about here, can you tell me why those never came out?
Hmmm I wonder if anything happened in the last few years that stopped movies from being made? Like maybe some kind of worldwide pandemic that prevented people from working on films and going to the cinema hence the pivot to online streaming services? Nah must've been a grand conspiracy where Disney are secretly losing money on these billions dollar movies! Yeah that makes sense...
>Dude COVID disrupted these productions
>Even though Marvel resumed theirs
It's so painfully obvious you're some hack shill for Lucasfilm like Jason Ward
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST UTTERLY BTFO ME WITH SIMPLE FACTS YOURE BEING PAID BY DISNEY TO DO THIS
Concession accepted. Thanks for playing!
I accept your concession again, Jason Ward
>The meltdown continues
You really upset, huh?
>t. disney shill sperging over some gay flop
Still crying that the multi billion dollar franchise is somehow a failure? Who are you trying to fool; me or yourself? KEK
>multibillion dollar franchise
Uh, nta but you do know that indy 5 is gonna cost your israeli employers a couple hundred million dollars in losses right? Idk about you, but if something loses that much money I would hesitate to call it a ‘billion dollar franchise’ more like a massive lodestone around the neck of the studio.
>rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>it was covid in 2020 that killed star wars in 2018
obviously a mentally ill (You)
Cope and seethe as much as you need mouseBlack person. Your movie is the biggest flop in the history of the world.
YOU CANT JUST UTTERLY BTFO ME WITH SIMPLE FACTS YOURE BEING PAID BY DISNEY TO DO THIS
>Concession accepted. Thanks for playing!
>>The meltdown continues
>You really upset, huh?
>Still crying that the multi billion dollar franchise is somehow a failure? Who are you trying to fool; me or yourself? KEK
I think the Lucasfilm shill is in meltdown mode. Maybe it really is Jason Ward
Probably isn't. Lucasfilm has an emergency meeting that everybody has to attend.
Something about a shitflinging contest between the marketing department and the movie making one.
>Get utterly BTFO and humiliated
>Have no counter
>Resort to adhoms
Every time.
>Three concessions at once
It's a lot but I'll accept them
I accept your concession again
>N-no u
KEK chuddie getting desperate
I accept your concession again, Chuddie
Too late. I got dubs and you didn't, making me the victor
I accept your concession, chuddie
cry for me Black person
>PAID BY DISNEY
everyone knows disney can't afford to pay shill anymore with that 20 billion hulu bill
>Maybe it really is Jason Ward
More like a mentally ill john campea
This didn't stop capeshit. It didn't stop Mission Impossible. It didn't stop high budget shows like House of the Dragon. Why did it stop Disney?
As I look back, I think the mistake that I made --- I take the blame --- was a little too much, too fast. You can expect some slowdown
Bob Iger 2018
go easy on the disney kool-aid
There is one simple way to gauge how successful the sequels were - check out Disney's catalogue after the sequel trilogy ended. How many sequel characters did you see after the sequels ended? Where did Rey go? Finn? Poe? All the side characters? In all the novels and spin-offs films and shows, where are they? Surely if they were a success, we'd see more of them.
They disappeared. Literally all the spin-off films and shows and games after the sequels avoid the sequels and their characters. It's all about the OT/PT and jerking off those eras and those characters. Why? Can you guess? Put two and two together. Nobody gives a shit about Rey and the gang, Disney knows it. That's how you know the movies failed, and that's why any movie or show containing sequel stuff seems to get indefinitely delayed without any clear reason.
>sequels hugely successful
This can be proven false easily by observing how movie companies respond to fan sentiment.
After the Captain America movies, fanboys said "it would be cool if Bucky and the Falcon had a buddy cop movie" and then what do you know, a miniseries called Falcon and the Winter Soldier soon started filming! After season 2 of Daredevil, fanboys said "man the Punisher is so fricking cool I wish we could see more of him" and then what do you know, a Punisher show was announced soon after! DC saw how positively people reacted to the superhero teamup memes from Marvel so what do you know, they sprinted to make their own version as soon as it was humanely possible!
Content happens because movie companies look at fan sentiment, and they make the movie/show happen if they think the fans want it. Do you know why the miniseries Kenobi exists? Because Bob Iger (Disney CEO) looked at a poll by The Hollywood Reporter in August 2016 that asked which Star Wars character deserved a spin-off film, and Obi-Wan Kenobi was the overwhelming winner of a poll.
And this is what reveals the colossal failure of the sequel trilogy, because if they were as hugely successful and beloved as you're saying, then we'd undoubtedly see at least something related to them in Disney's barrage of shows and spin-offs. Some miniseries about Rey? Or Finn? Or Hux? About Poe? At least a cameo? But we see nothing. It's like they're being avoided, literally every single piece of content after the sequels ended, be it movie or game or comic or TV show, has been steering clear of sequel events or their characters. As if they could catch a virus if they get too close. That's how you can tell the sequels failed, companies make content based on fan sentiment and if they're obviously avoiding something that means the company believes the fans really don't want it.
>humanely
That's debatable
They tried doing it after 3 movies while Marvel took their time. It was quite the rush.
>500 word copepost
Ain't reading all that chuddie, the movies made an easy billion each
>TFA
Massive hype for the first new movie in a decade from the biggest ip in human history.
>TLJ
Sill had hype going in after the success of TFA and R1
>Solo
Bombed due to being boycotted from being immediately released right after TLJ trainwreck
>TROS
Promised to fix TLJ and is released during the absolute peak of the Disney brand thanks to success from Marvel.
There's the reasoning for your three billion dollar grosses right there. It won't be happening again until the brand is fixed and the brand won't be fixed as long as the same people are running it.
>Concedes they were massive successes
Well that was easy lol
>concedes they were failures
Well that was easy lol
>He thinks Captain Marvel was good.
I even forgot to mention that TROS was actually riding on the coattails of The Mandalorian. The Mandalorian tv shoiw singlehandedly brought the brand back from the grave witch saved TROS at the box office.
>I even forgot to mention that TROS was actually riding on the coattails of The Mandalorian. The Mandalorian tv shoiw singlehandedly brought the brand back from the grave witch saved TROS at the box office.
It didn't really save it at the box office, if you look earlier in the thread the movie cost half a billion to make and only got a billion worldwide
Yeah but Mando is the reason TROS made the magic "billion" dollar number at the box office.
Star Wars is a merchandising empire, the movies are basically commercials. Sequel trilogy movies did so badly that Hasbro nearly went bankrupt, LEGO flat out told them they wouldn't be licensing any more sequel trilogy shit after all of the Rey sets ended up in overstock stores.
Funny thing, the reason Mandalorian didn't have any merch at launch was because all the toy and t-shirt companies were too leery of disney and didn't want to jump in until it was a hit.
>This moron cope again
It's already confirmed another trilogy is in the works and starring Rey.
>confirmed
By who? Disney? Oh, so they're still underway just like the Rian Johnson trilogy, or the Feige movie, or the Taika Waititi movie, or the Lando movie, or the Solo sequels? Weird how none of those seem to happen and get quietly cancelled
>It's already confirmed another trilogy is in the works and starring Rey.
yes, 2 more weeks and they start production
just 2 more weeks
just watch
any minute now
we're doing it
it's coming
totally real
not like the other 50 movies that we were totally starting production on
Totally bro. Just like the rogue squadron movie. And taika waitis movie. And the Benioff and weiss trilogy. And the rian Johnson trilogy. And the Kevin feign movie. Sure bro. It’ll be out in two more weeks lmaoooo
Disney never made a good Star Wars movie.
They assumed Star Wars was indestructible and would continue to print money because it was called Star Wars and retained the iconic imagery alone. In addition they attempted to broaden their female fanbase by disassociating from their male fanbase to the point where they were outright criticising them (thinking they would continue to buy merchandise anyway regardless), and it backfired horrendously. They misread the room spectacularly.
>and the audience will LIKE IT
>for as long as it can
>lasts like 3 years
LOL
Fatigue
Do you want to slap him or say thank you?
I want to slap him while he thanks me
I want to ask him how that trilogy's coming along
Thank you, Reee-Ann
I want to thank him for making the best movie in the sequel trilogy, even if it was only a 3/5. He can actually come up with new ideas and interesting visuals unlike JJ, the great plagiarist. JJ Abrams is like Bob Dylan but if you replaced Dylan’s talent with nepotism.
Thanks Ryan. Your movie was pretty good except for the casino planet stuff and the boring old rebels vs empire dynamic.
Movies are 100% a psy-op at this point, especially for the youth. The people that own these properties have trillions. It's about propoganda/indoctrination/demoralization of the masses. It doesn't matter if they've run the franchise into the ground. It's served it's purpose.
this
anyone who says making money is #1 forgets how esg score rewards work
You yourself don't know how it works. You've painted some infinite money boogeyman from Blackrock, but reality is different. Blackrock is not charity organization for companies, instead they want more money with their investments. If companies fail to make money, they eventually won't get shit from Blackrock. Disney already ran it's esg money to ground. Nothing can save them. Blackrock won't keep a company alive that keeps losing billions every year. Most Hollywood movie makers might be morons, but businessmen actually know their fields of expertise.
If you get demoralized by a bad Star Wars movie, you were too weak to this world already.
You are giving Hollywood way too much credit. They don't know what they are doing.
TLJ tried some new things that a lot of people hated, and they immediately backpedaled. Why would they do that if they were trying to be demoralizing?
All of you have listed good reasons why Disney failed when creating Star Wars content, but you've all ignored the most egregious point of all: Kathleen Kennedy hates men and tries to push that worldview in every single Star Wars product from 2012 on.
>2 trilogies between 30 years
>hurr i'm sure we can just churn endless slop out of this every year now somehow
How did the MCU succeeded in this where Star Wars failed?
The novelty of a connected universe of otherwise standalone movies really was attractive for a while.
The effect has since faded substantially.
The MCU is failing now too. Endgame was the last one that was good.
The Marvel universe just has way more appealing characters that even normies know their names to keep the hype going, Stars Wars you need to be actually very into the comics or books to know some of these people
Marvel built each character and highlighted their personality, motivation, strength, weaknesses etc so once Avengers came you understood who Tony Stark was and who Thor was.
Star Wars literally said "Here's Rey shes a woman who lives on a desert planet, here's Finn he was a stormtrooper now he's good, ok you crazy kids get out there and show references to the previous movies!"
0 development. Really should've started with Finn as a Stormtrooper becoming more concerned about his actions and really showing why he wanted to switch to join the Rebels.
>SW:TLJ here's major personality change and a two minute flashback to explain why
Its about as reasonable as my GF being mad at me because I broke up with her in HER DREAMS
insane
Finn was butchered in the first 15 minutes of the movie, he literally goes from
>I am sad because of dead comrades and dead civvies
to
>EAT MY PLASMA CANNON YOU IMPERIAL PIGS
Got even worse when he started simping.
Finn, casted as a ugly big mouth Black with zero movie appeal, frick him, frick whoever cast him, frick JJ Abraham's frick Kathleen Kennedy, frick Disney and FRICK YOU if you like this monkey idiot
I said the character was fricking spawnkilled, not that I liked him, namehomosexual.
built each character and highlighted their personality, motivation, strength, weaknesses etc so once Avengers came you understood who Tony Stark was and who Thor was.
All of those characters have precisely the same quippy "personality".
>All of those characters have precisely the same quippy "personality
The movies, not the comics
I've never read a comic in my entire life.
I'm Gen-X and grew up in the absolute peak of the comics industry. Comics were my life in the way that cell phones are the lives of current era zoomers. Current era MCU is about as far from the spirit of the comics as you can get.
>The movies, not the comics
thank you. HOLY FRICK thank you. This is what people fail to understand. The comics were NEVER quipfests outside of Spiderman.
Marvel movies are like fast food. zero barrier to entry and made to appease the masses. literal goyslop.
>inb4 hurr durr American makes food analogy
Ok fattie
Used to. Now every new movie requires you to do homework with the slog that is the TV shows.
The easiest thing to point to, that represents the problem with Disney Star Wars, is the scene from Rise of Skywalker with all the ships.
It was clear someone, whether it was JJ or Kennedy or whoever, wanted to do an Avengers Endgame moment. But it ended up showing they didn't understand why Endgame worked for audiences. In Endgame, they had the build up from 11 years of films, each establishing characters.
Black Panther's arrival wouldn't have resonated with the audiences if he wasn't in Captain America: Civil War, the Black Panther film, and Avengers: Infinity War. Doctor Strange's arrival wouldn't have resonated without the Doctor Strange movie and his participation in Infinity War. The GOTG's arrival wouldn't have resonated with audiences without the first two films and Infinity War, and so on.
It doesn't work in Rise because most of the audience only watched the movies and maybe familiar with Lando and Wedge at most. It felt like they thought audiences would have that same Endgame feeling seeing ships from the previous movies but it doesn't work that way.
>former Senator Leia desperately asks the galactic citizens for help
>not even a reply message
Meanwhile Lando just promised some dick pics and half the fricking galaxy came running.
it's actually very impressive that ~~*Disney*~~ managed to gut the biggest movie franchise in record time.
I don’t think any movie has ever caused as much long term damage as those sequels did
The level of frick up is crazy
Greatest blunder in cinematic history?
>How did it all go so wrong?
Jews.
1. Oversaturation
Star Wars is suppose to be an event.
2. Not having a plan or outline.
3. Sidelining the OT characters to push new OCs that aren’t as well developed or interesting. Example: who cares about Poe?
4. Mistreating the fans.
5. Weird obsession with feminism and making every main character a strong female that need no man. Even Mandalorian got cucked out of his own show by Bo-Katan.
I care less about monkey Finn,Capt Phasma or Rose Tico, 99% of new star wars shit is that, SHIT
We all know it was Rian Johnson that killed Star Wars. And no amount lf articles after TLJ telling us that we were wrong and toxic to dislike TLJ could change that
Rian played a role, but who hired him? Who gave him the ability to do the damage he did? The keys were handed to him.
Kathleen supported and loved every decision he made. She even approved tr first draft of the script.
>Kathleen supported and loved every decision he made. She even approved tr first draft of the script.
I wager she was also primarily responsible for throwing out Lucas' outline for the sequel trilogy.
>If the wait between those two films was too long, fear not, as Disney won’t leave you waiting that long again ever. Ever.
>According to Wired, Disney and Lucasfilm have decided to release a new Star Wars film every year until people stop going to see them at the cinema. Seeing as The Force Awakens recently became the fastest selling movie of all time, this probably won’t happen in our life times, if ever.
>After talking with Lucasfilm’s president Kathleen Kennedy as well as the studio’s chief creative designer, John Knoll, writer Adam Rodgers wrote: “If the people at the Walt Disney Company, which bought Lucasfilm for $4 billion in 2012, have anything to say about it, the past four decades of Star Wars were merely prologue.
>“If everything works out for Disney, and if you are old enough to have been conscious for the first Star Wars film, you will probably not live to see the last one. It’s the forever franchise.”
>This week, the new owners will see if the manufactured nostalgia trick has worked its magic as a new generation of fans soaked in peripheral marketing, get to have their own cinema experience. The early signs are that Disney needn’t worry.
>Furthermore, the original films often enjoy successful re-runs on satellite channels and Episode 1 was re-released into cinemas a few years ago in converted 3D format. More opportunity, then, for parents to pursue this vicarious nostalgia and posit Star Wars as some kind of sacred text to their children, however displaced it might be from the original film.
>It boils down to a rigorous and lucrative marketing plan that can continue ad infinitum with each subsequent generation. And it doesn’t end here either.
>Disney are planning to create a multiverse approach to the new Star Wars films akin to that of their other brand acquisition, Marvel.
>“The purchase of Lucasfilm is an amazing coup for Disney to add to Disney animation, Pixar and Marvel. So just under this umbrella of brands that Disney has, the sky’s the limit.”
>”‘Star Wars’ will bear fruit for the next 10, 20, even 100 years. This is a 100-year plan for Disney with all these various properties. Then these properties go to the small screen, then there’s product placement, products associated with ‘Star Wars.’”
>Along with these films, “Inside Out,” the Marvel franchise and Pixar, Dergarabedian said the overall picture for Disney—on both big and small screen—“looks very bright indeed.”
>Disney hope that the new films, which are being developed by Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg, will be able to spin off into franchises of their own. It is believed that the first spin-off will focus on the backstory of Jedi Master Yoda.
>Horn however would not be drawn on the increasing rumours that Episode VII will reunite original stars Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher in some capacity. The new movie is about to enter production, and will be directed by JJ Abrams.
>muh hundred-years reich lasted even less than the thousand-years reich
>More opportunity, then, for parents to (...) posit Star Wars as some kind of sacred text to their children
>there are currently six more star wars movies coming in the next 6 years (article from 2015 after TFA)
i wonder how much longer people will keep immediately trusting disney on these "this new project is coming SOON we swear!" headlines, i think even normalgays at this point have become aware it's almost always a lie
>I can't wait for the Obi-wan movie!
>Oh. But then there's the Boba Fett movie!
>Hm. Those Game of Thrones guys are still doing a trilogy, right? I hear it'll be about Darth Revan!
>Well what about Rian Johnson? He still has his trilogy.
>Omg, look! The Acolyte! That looks pretty cool!
>A trilogy based on Rey? Okay! Let's go!
>Disney for 100 more years!
Praise god for Rian Johnson for ruining this vision. I'm not even a huge Star Wars fan, but this just sounds insufferable.
I will definitely look for some more as it's fascinating. A window into a different world with Star Wars being the hegemon of pop culture. Articles about this being multi-generational thing rumors even taht Lucas might write the movies.
But I like this pic from one of the articles. When everything revolved around Star Wars even other franchises. Look, Lord of the Rings. Not in the best shape but I wouldn't call it smaller than Star Wars. And hey there's Godzilla. A franchise older than Star Wars that will easily outlive it.
>Disney just bought the mother of all money-printing machines
>And that's why Disney is on a Popular Movie Franchise Spending Spree. In 2006, it paid $11 billion for Pixar. In 2009, it paid $4 billion for Marvel. And yesterday, it paid another $4 billion to acquire Lucasfilm and the right to continue the Star Wars franchise into the future.
>Will the next Star Wars movie be any good? Who knows. But knowing what we know about the state of the movie business, this was a smart buy for four reasons.
>Star Wars has a lot of room to grow overseas. George Lucas was great at building one of the most popular movie franchises in American history. Disney is great at building international brands. Together, analysts think they can take Star Wars global, boosting revenue from box office, TV licensing, and merchandise.
>Together, analysts think they can take Star Wars global
OH THE MISERY
>Why Buying Star Wars Was (...).png
I hate the access media.
>“That is a very good idea, John,” Kennedy said. So … green light. Apparently that’s how you get to make a Star Wars movie.
>Let me put it another way: If everything works out for Disney, and if you are (like me) old enough to have been conscious for the first Star Wars film, you will probably not live to see the last one. It’s the forever franchise.
>These new movies won’t just be sequels. That’s not the way the transnational entertainment business works anymore. Forget finite sequences; now it’s about infinite series.
>Nonfans might scoff, but the universe of Star Wars has more than an audience—it has followers. And followers are emotionally invested, which makes redeveloping it a daunting task. “The first question J.J. asked us when we all sat down was, what do we want to feel?” Kennedy says.
>The answers Kennedy’s brain trust gave: A sense of a beginning. A sense of urgency but also humor. Working with Lawrence Kasdan, who wrote The Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi, Abrams developed another list: “The feeling we wanted was from the first trilogy,” Kasdan says. “It’s fun, it’s delightful, it moves like a son of a b***h, and you don’t question too much.”
>pisode VIII is in preproduction down the hall, and stand-alones about young Han Solo and the fan-favorite bad guy Boba Fett are percolating. It seems complicated. It seems, I say to Kennedy, like you’re going to need more than just emotions to make it all work.
>“I love how you’ve already jumped to the conclusion that it’s all working,” she answers, laughing. “Oh my God, there is so much to get right. It’s by no means laid out beat for beat. I’ll borrow a line from Raiders of the Lost Ark: We’re making this up as we go.”
>Yes, Abrams is feeling pressured:“I do feel like there’s a little bit more of a burden on Larry and me to come up with a story that could at least be the beginning of what transpires over three films,” he told Wired.
>There’s going to be a lot more where that came from:
>Kind of unrelated, but it looks like that new Indiana Jones is definitely happening:
When asked about new movies, Kennedy explained she had a lot on her plate, but: “She takes a breath. ‘And then I’ll be working with them on Indiana Jones.’”
Oh a bonus
>Kathleen Kennedy already had her hands full getting a new trilogy of “Star Wars” films and related spinoffs off the ground at Disney. Now the Lucasfilm chief also has Indiana Jones to manage.
>When the studio bought Lucasfilm last year for $4 billion, Disney chief Bob Iger said that while Indiana Jones was part of the acquisition, there were still “some encumbrances” in how it could make money from the adventurer. That included future films, given that Paramount controlled the rights to them at the time. The franchise had earned $1.9 billion to date.
>And with a character like Indy, films are seen as the key in driving interest in everything else that involves the character.
>Longtime “Indiana Jones” franchise producer Frank Marshall may have said that he believed “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” was “the last hurrah” for the series, but Disney’s latest move signals that Lucasfilm’s archeologist hasn’t gone on his final adventure just yet.
Thanks, this is gold. Headier times for sure
Lucasfilm doesn't own any of ET do they? Not even 1%?
I saw during the closing credits of some of the original cast Star Trek movies that ILM had producer credits. Does that mean George Lucas owned a tiny sliver of Star Trek?
Four reasons Disney Star Wars will succeed
1. It could get big overseas
2. The guy no longer in charge is pretty competent
3. It could get big overseas
4. ??? big overseas?
Least Iron Man got to end on a high note...
Till Iron Heart kills that last bit of goodwill too.
Eventually I realized that what Johnson did was completely logical. The Farce Awakened may seem like a coherent film but its a lazy rehash filled to the brim with various mystery boxes that even someone like Spielberg or Cameron couldn't fill in a satisfying way.
israelite israelite Abrahms fricked the whole project up from the very first movie and Johnson simply took his complete mess of a mystery box collection and decided to crash this franchise with no survivors.
The other part of it is that you can make a case that Rian indirectly caused JJ to crash his career/rep because DIsney for some reason decided to bring JJ back
They didn't decide to bring Jar Jar back, they just had no fricking choice. Even somebody like Rian Johnson understood that the first movie of a the (unplanned) trilogy was unsalvageable.
Johnson got handed the keys to a car that was leaking gas, oil, breaking fluid and was missing a tire. So of course instead of trying to ace his portion of the rally, Rian decided to just crash the damn thing straight into a brick wall and peace out.
Of course there wouldn't be a single fricking director in the entirety of hollywood willing to direct the third instalment. It would be like asking a mechanic to build you a ferrari out of some scrap metal and a tube.
Not even possible in the realm of theory, thus Jar Jar Abrahms had to do his "best" to try and save the trilogy.
>They didn't decide to bring Jar Jar back, they just had no fricking choice.
They already had Trevorrow but pushed him out for some reason
It wouldn't have been good but if that leaked story was his, it would've made more sense than fricking Rise of Skywalker despite the stupid things in it
JJ somehow made stupider moves under the guise of claiming it was for the fans, which made me wonder if he even understood what the fan complaints were about
I might be mistaken but didn't Treverrow back out by himself after TLJ was released?
In either case I don't think the franchise was salvageable even after the first movie which is arguable the least shitty one. After the second one Satan himself would give up on fixing it.
>I might be mistaken but didn't Treverrow back out by himself after TLJ was released?
No, the leaked script actually incorporated things from Last Jedi into it. Luke was a Force Ghost for instance.
Can't remember the last time I was morbidly curious like this but ok.
Guess I can be happy Jar Jar decided to come back and frick shit up 3 times harder than anybody else on the planet could have.
That fricking israelite got demoted to making movies about fricking Hotwheels, lmao
>According to Wired, Disney and Lucasfilm have decided to release a new Star Wars film every year until people stop going to see them at the cinema.
mission accomplished
the fricking audacity, I'm glad the bottom is falling out
Jesus christ, quotes that age like milk?
It's actually hilarious that they fumbled a sure thing on their second mainline entry so bad that it sunk the entire franchise with it
>How did it all go so wrong?
Big companies in the midlate 2010s and early 2020s were convinced you could spit in the face of your consumers and they'd still buy your stuff anyway. That's why Disney went for the "the Force is female Star Wars doesn't need to be for boys anymore" route with a thing that's clearly for boys, they were convinced everyone would it eat it up anyway and that girls and gays and Black folk would be the new audience.
Their mistake is that girls and gays and Black folk largely don't care about Star Wars, and the majority of the audience will always be white men + asian men + brown men (none of these 3 groups want girlbosses or Black folk or gays in Star Wars). So when you try to alienate those 3 groups, they will eventually lose interest. It won't happen immediately (people still went to see The Last Jedi) but over time the frustration and disinterest accumulates until we have Solo megaflopping, all the projects being axed due to a lack of interest, half-baked low budget shows rotting on streaming services with low viewership, until we reach the point of even normies on social media laughing at Disney for being shit and flopping more than ever.
The core audience walked away because Disney pushed them away, it's not surprising. Bringing them back would be incredibly easy, the 2019 Jedi game is just a white guy jedi doing basic jedi things in a normal Star Wars story and it sold more than Elden Ring did, because clearly that's what people wanted to see. Disney doesn't care about that though, they'll probably just make more shit like baby Leia running from Red Hot Chili Peppers, or gay power rangers on fluorescent motorbikes from Bobba Fett, or Carrie Fisher's corpse floating in space, or Luke milking that green cow tit thing.
I can't even imagine what hollywood will look like in 10 years thanks to ESG.
I think it'll be nothing but absolute-shit tier projects but people still watching it all because they're addicted to media.
It's getting better. We had plenty of new action movies with capable white male lead in few last years. Of course, not from Disney.
>Their mistake is that girls and gays and Black folk largely don't care about Star Wars, and the majority of the audience will always be white men + asian men + brown men (none of these 3 groups want girlbosses or Black folk or gays in Star Wars).
this
>It won't happen immediately
That was actually unique to Star Wars, likely because of when it came out. People were still not used to franchise installments being made to spite the audience yet, so they gave TLJ an honest try. Now that people just assume these pieces of shit are created to spit in their face, they fail out of the gate. Check out Indiana Jones 5 and the Box Office Bomb
Do you guys honestly get upset by marketing stuff like that? How invested in a brand do you need to be for bullshit like „the force is female“ to scrape you?
>do you guys really
Yeah, it’s gay and annoying. Any other questions Black person?
It would be okay if it was just marketing. But that attitude also permeates the scripts as well.
Yes if a product or service releases marketing insulting me I'm not likely to buy it, is this really some kind of big shocker? I know this might be a crazy concept to a person like you but the point of marketing is to promote what you're selling, not to blog about your political beliefs.
Marketing bs just doesn‘t faze me one way or the other. I wasn‘t gonna watch this movie anyways, but if I was, I can‘t imagine this being the reason for me not to go
Are you so dumb you don't know what a "red flag" is.
I understand that this isn‘t applicable to some market tested conglomerate, but I appreciate artists that have integrity enough to have some contempt for their audiences. I don‘t want to be pandered to, I don‘t want you to give me what I want, I want you to do what you wanna do. That goes doublely so for general audiences (including Cinemaphile) because those guys have no fricking clue what they want. Reddit is always super happy when stars are nice and appreciative of their fans, I just couldn‘t be bothered to care about that stuff
>I don‘t want to be pandered to, I don‘t want you to give me what I want, I want you to do what you wanna do.
You might think I am being sarcastic, but I'm not and I 100% agree. That is a core tenet of what art is. It is also EXTACTLY why k.k. is the wrong person for the job. What she wants and what the fanbase wants are not aligned. And never will be. It is not who she is. You need a creator who's INTERNAL desires and beliefs are naturally aligned with the fanbase. Not someone who will cynically pander to what the fans want. And that is key. Because pandering gets you the J.J. Abrams of the world.
Not a bad thought. I guess part of the lucas magic was having a great touch for what the people of the day actually wanted (at least during the 80s)
Imagine going back in time and telling your child self that there will be tons of new star wars movies in the future and they will all suck
ironic
Well, the headline isn't wrong. They released a movie every year for as long as they could.
People barely tolerated 6 star wars movies over the course of 40 years. One per year burning people out on star wars was a guarantee. Disney execs are fricking morons if they thought this kind of slop spam would be warmly received.
quarterly profits and stock increases in the short term are all that matter to them. and the ceos still get their golden parachutes. why do they even meddle?
If it were really all about the money, they should be pandering to the most base desires of audiences instead of trying to be socially progressive. Star wars needs more sexy aliens in skimpy outfits, and tough sexist guys who kiss pretty girls even though the girl is saying no but secretly wants it. This is what Star Wars used to be. Even during the prequel movies, Lucas had the good sense to cast Natalie Portman and put her in revealing outfits. We don't get any of this from Disney, they just aren't interested in making the sort of things that people actually like.
>you HAVE to cater to 40 year old perverts or your movie sucks!
no
That's not what he was saying at all.
Such things cater to teenage boys primarily.
My brother's a teenager and I'm a bit older but still a zoomer, and we'd rather watch the zendaya threesome than slave leia
With that hair and those booties slave leia just looks so fricking dated, like your grandpa's idea of sexy, she's not even fricking barefoot, what's hot about that?
Leia was never particularly attractive in the first place. The point is that they put her in a revealing outfit to show audiences what they wanted to see, and that approach to film making is now essentially gone. Stop being autistic.
But I don't want to see that, and neither do modern audiences
You're a dude in your 30s larping as a child on Cinemaphile, you need institutionalization not films catered to you.
Speak for yourself homosexual
>modern people don't like sex goyim, stop thinking about sex. sex is bad, do not reproduce
Imagine thinking zendaya is attractive lmao queer
Zendaya is average at best. Looks okay but not jaw-dropping attractive.
Leia showing her breasts after 6 years of dressing like a nun is the type of fan service we'll never get again
Who do they cater to now? How is that working out?
>If you love the original star wars you're a pervert and old.
wut
>YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR MOVIES STERILE AND DEVOID OF ANY HUMANITY OR YOU'RE A PERVERTED OLD MAN
cope, homosexual
It is mainly about the money, the suits are just wienery, they think they can have their cake and eat it too. They think they can attract new demographics like black women (aka demographics that don't give a shit about Star Wars) so they will focus the movies and casting and advertising on attracting them, and they think the core audience will watch anyway because we're filthy consumers who'll swallow anything and never walk away. Which IS true but only in the short term the first one or two times. Over time, the core audience walks away. That's what the investors are probably starting to understand, you can't really have both groups.
Kiger and israeliteleen didn't just want the money form various shitskins, they wanted to spread their shitty propaganda using the various popular franchises under their ownership.
Of course you are correct, they thought they can shit on white men while STILL making a profit and that proved to be fundamentally false.
>People barely tolerated 6 star wars movies over the course of 40 years.
lolwut. barely tolerated? gtfo.
By the sixth movie people were generally burned out and wanted the Star Wars spam to stop. Even if you discount the gap years between the 3rd and 4th movies and just look at the second set of three movies, you had 3 movies coming out over 6 years and that was already too much too fast for most people. By the time the sixth movie came out, most people were apathetic.
One star wars movie every five years is pushing it, any faster than that is slop spam.
>By the sixth movie people were generally burned out and wanted the Star Wars spam to stop.
No. You're lying. You're speaking for yourself and yourself alone.
No, I'm speaking from experience. People were hype for the 4th movie but the 6th flopped like a wet noodle.
>No, I'm speaking from experience.
You weren't even born when The Force Awakens came out.
You're totally delusional.
Solo was unironically the best nuWars film, not good but ok enough. The reason it flopped is because it's the movie that came after The Last Jedi.
Star Wars as a setting is big enough to more or less fit most other genres in its setting. You don't need epic Jedi vs Sith battles, you can do comedy films, crime fighting stories, drama shows about the rich and famous on Coruscant. Gritty war movies about the clones etc etc.
Obviously requires a lot of talent, patience and timing but it could work.
>Star Wars as a setting is big
Hardly. Same desert planet every time. Same big bad laser ball every time.
No big bad laser in the PT and they expanded the galactic theatre quite a bit. Sequels could've done the same even more and better.
I'm very glad that only lasted like 3 years
keep throwing shit at the wall until one of the turds stick. they'll all stink, though
only legislation can stop this
>only legislation can stop this
Hollywood and DC are owned by the same singular group of people.
>disney paid trillions to expand the copyright to 100 years
thank goodness they shot that shit down
they should bring it back down to 50 years
50? I say 20 at the absolute maximum.
I couldn't find that article but I remember one about projected longevity of Star Wars (projected by Disney after they bought it) and it was like 40 years.
Disney is following the same path that General Motors did and it'll end with demanding a bailout from Congress because they're "too big to fail" despite years of poor business decisions.
They killed 007 and now they let Indy rot.
They're systematically destroying every once-successful IP. They're like a virus.
The only reason they haven't destroyed Top Gun or Mission Impossible is because they know Cruise is too crazy to frick with.
Mission Impossible is gone.
>Mission Impossible is gone.
MI is only popular because Cruise does one death defying stunt per movie and people go see that movie for that stunt. If Cruise has an accident and is crippled or dies, MI is done.
im still blown away theyre doubling down on fricking Rey
like, how fricking inept can you be and say "yeah, Rise of Skywalker was a good film and made good money"
and thinking anyone cares after 5 years when you've kept poisoning the well with diluting the brand instead of creating more mysteries
They're not doubling down on Rey. If they did, you'd have seen her in 2 more movies and 3 shows by now. But all the post-Rey stuff has anxiously been avoiding Rey, that's not a coincidence. All this "new Rey movie" stuff is just Disney throwing out feelers to gauge if there's any interest in a new Rey movie, I guarantee it hasn't actually been greenlit yet. Disney has already done the "this movie is definitely coming in a few years" thing 50 times in the next decade and it only ended up being true the few times people actually got excited for the idea.
They stuck to the Rian Johnson and D&D trilogies totally coming out bro for like 5 years before they stopped mentioning them very quietly. Truth is they have no fricking clue what to do and they’re increasingly lost at it. They’re in a state of total creative sterility, they can’t do anything right.
The whole Rey movie thing seems to me like a petty and vicious fight between Kaffeine Kennedy and Bobby boy.
>Disney has already done the "this movie is definitely coming in a few years" thing 50 times in the next decade and it only ended up being true the few times people actually got excited for the idea.
This.
Do you know why the Mandalorian exists? Because of constant social media posts about how cool it would be to just to make a space western about a bounty hunter fricking shit up in Star Wars.
Do you know why Boba Fett exists? Because of constant social media posts about how cool Boba Fett is and how he should get a series.
Do you know why Kenobi exists? Because people grew to like Hayden and most people like Obi-Wan, and they talked about the gap between episode 3 and 4 having potential for stories on social media years before that.
Do you know why Andor exists? Because people reacted to it more warmly than the sequel trilogy, liked the Hispanic and the imperial officers, and talked about how Star Wars should have that kind of style more often.
Disney's marketing and social media analysts are what decides future projects. That's why most of the other projects never lived past the announcement stage, because the public's reaction to those announcements didn't contain enough excitement.
>instead of creating more mysteries
The "Lost" aka "mystery box" approach to writing needs to die. Audiences catch on eventually and won't forgive you for it.
I didnt mean to convey it that way. I mean "more mysteries" like the opening of TRotJ, where we see now Luke is dressed in black and does neutral evil type of stuff with the force, from force choking to minimal dialogue
that sort of "mystery"
the slow burn, teasing approach
instead of EXPOSITION EXPOSITION MACGUFFIN EXPOSITION
>im still blown away theyre doubling down on fricking Rey
I'd double down on fricking her if I had the chance tbh
>im still blown away theyre doubling down on fricking Rey
Because you don't get it
Kennedy is just announcing these films in the hopes of making it seem like Lucasfilm is still making movies
No one believes they'll be made other than desperate Lucasfilm shills and doomer Youtubers
She's buying time for sure, but what's her plan when none of these movies happen? Is she hoping that 2 years from now she can just cancel it and claim a new super project is happening and just repeat that cycle?
I mean, I guess it's been working for the last 6 years.
She's probably hoping she can outlast Iger and then get whoever's in charge to greenlight something
>Kennedy is just announcing these films in the hopes of making it seem like Lucasfilm is still making movies
This. They're just trying to come off as confident and like they know what they're doing, so the investors and the public don't catch on to the truth that they're just biding their time. What I'm confused about is how are people still swallowing the "we contacted [famous director] and there is now a new Star Wars movie in the works, coming Soon!(tm)" story the 20th time in a row when the vast majority of those movies never seem to happen or get quietly axed?
>What I'm confused about is how are people still swallowing the "we contacted [famous director] and there is now a new Star Wars movie in the works, coming Soon!(tm)" story the 20th time in a row when the vast majority of those movies never seem to happen or get quietly axed?
Initially there were people in the media who still reported on it as if they were for real
But this year there's been a growing number of people in the media mocking Lucasfilm for announcing projects that aren't getting released
>buy star wars
>it prints money, so just make whatever bullshit without respecting the lore or characters
>surprised that you can in fact kill the golden goose
EXTREMLY EXTREMTLY poor writing.
Solo was a good movie and that's why I hate the Griftright on Griftube
>youtube homosexuals won against a multi-trillion dollar media company with a multi-billion dollar franchise
if that's how you want to cope with liking a subpar film
>No surname, eh?
>alright, lets call you "Solo"
>Welcome to the Imperial Army.
When did movies get so contrived. Like in Cruella. Let's have dalmatians kill her mom. It's totally not stupid.
israelites in hollywood are vile disgusting pieces of shit and they know that even if they pretend not to.
As such they have an obsession with taking evil characters from the past and twisting their stories until something "good" can be attributed to them. It is a fundamentally pathetic coping mechanism as well as part of their agenda to destroy western culture.
Fricking hell the explanation to that shitty scene is somehow even worse that the scene itself.
Good job there, bobby boy.
they put out too much star wars in too short amount of time
How does Kathleen Kennedy still have a job or in charge of anything? All she's proven is that she doesn't know how to sustain a successful franchise and has now driven two into the ground.
To fire her is to acknowledge their failure, so they will never do it. The Force is Female, mother fricker.
There are rumors that she has a clause in her countract that says as long as she's an executive producer on any upcoming project, as long as there is technically something in the pipeline, she can't be fired. That's why over all these years there's never been a second when there's no project in development, even if barely any projects seem to come out and most of them end up being cancelled - it's because a lot of those projects only exist on paper so she has a legal reason to keep her job. It's like she's constantly juggling and keeping at least one ball in the air. Just a rumor though.
Makes more sense than the blackmail related rumours but at this point anything is possible.
It's right there in your image
>We need to make a Star Wars movie every year
Star Wars usually had years in between releases, to work on and plan out things.
>as long as it can
I guess they're all out of can
People treating Star Wars like the second coming of Christ when it was always mediocre. Always.
So when does Ahsoka come out? When do we get new shitposting material?
Star Wars isn't special when you're getting it every fricking month and when most of it is just mediocre or flat out awful.
Remember when Disney hired the guys making Game of Thrones to make Star Wars and those guys decided to run the show into the ground ASAP and made a mess to bad that Disney just quietly cancelled everything.
>as long as it can
I think the third reich lasted longer than Disney Star Wars
>How did it all go so wrong?
Not using Lucas sequel treatments and giving him the big fat middle finger. That's the only correct answer.
Star Wars stopped being about the fans when The Last Jedi came out. It was very obvious what people wanted.
It went wrong with (You) demanding more after Return of the Jedi.
They took the "Star Wars could be a monkey washing a cat and you'd watch it" meme seriously.
They realised the Star Wars "universe" isn't actually that big, and there aren't many interesting stories to tell.
What the frick do you even do with Star Wars at this point? Even in the original triology they ran out of ideas and brough the Death Star back.
don't even care about this franchise since he made those horrible CGI edits to the originals then the prequels just cemented the fact George Lucas is a massive fraud enabled by a bunch of mindless morons
Ok grandpa, the George Lucas monster isn't under your bed, it's time to take a nap now
NOOOO YOU CANT JUST UTTERLY BTFO ME WITH SIMPLE FACTS YOURE BEING PAID BY CHUD YOUTUBERS TO DO THIS
RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
KK is the best thing to happen to Star Wars, it let it die so I could follow other interests
What Star Wars movie came out last year?
Wow American entertainment and cultural output now matches the high volume low value production methods of their fast food slop
>2015
in 2016 trump was elected and all the democrats turned into literal comic book villains overnight. still getting worse not better
remember when they said that Putin was the one giving Last Jedi bad reviews? Good times.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/02/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rian-johnson-abuse-politically-motivated-russian-trolls
>Alden Ehrenreich confirmed his contract deal to appear as Han Solo extended for two additional films, giving the studio the option to pursue a sequel to Solo: A Star Wars Story, or feature him in other anthology films in a supporting capacity.[175] Emilia Clarke, who played Qi'ra, also signed on for future installments.[177]
>Ron Howard said that while no Solo sequel was in development, it was up to the fans to decide.[178] Critics noted the film intentionally left room open for sequels.[179]
>On June 20, 2018, Collider claimed that all future anthology films were on hold due to the disappointing financial performance of Solo.[183] A day later, Lucasfilm denied the rumors as "inaccurate" and confirmed that there are multiple unannounced Solo films in development.[184] Bob Iger has said that the production of new films would go on hiatus after 2019's The Rise of Skywalker, though none were cancelled.[185]
>In December 2022, Howard confirmed that Lucasfilm had no plans for a sequel to Solo.[197]
*sigh*
Somehow, another announced movie was cancelled.
George Lucas did it just to spite his contemptible fan base. Prove me wrong.
And now RLM's reputation is worse off. Prove me wrong.
lmao a decade on and you're still crying?
You mean like how RLM was crying about Phantom Menace a decade after it was released?
You are not wrong. The fanbase had become toxic towards G.L. thanks to RLM. So he sold it. He regrets it to this day though.
K.K. is REALLY good at the long game and played everyone like a fiddle. Especially George. To hide that much hatred and bitterness for so long is god tier levels of scheming and deception.
They did as promised. What`s so difficult to understand?
in the 2020s video games have eclipsed video games as the most hyped form of entertainment. there was Elden Ring, and upcoming GTA VI will probably be 10x as hyped as The Force Awakens was
>in the 2020s video games have eclipsed video games
it hurts itself in its confusion
meant to say movies. post editing error
They rehashed the original trilogy in the sequels. They have no new ideas. That is why everything is still set on Tatoine