How do we fix the Alien franchise?
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you just stop. the corpse can not be raped any more.
Fpbp
This. Same with Predator, Terminator, Robocop, Star Wars etc.
How much you paying me
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Keep making ridley scott movies in wadi rum...lawrence of arabia
You don't. It should have been two parts. Part 1 demystified the creature as single entity, part 2 shows it as a hive insect. The threat should have been neutralized by blowing up the planet, which should have been their place of origin, and that's it.
bloop
Did IQ's just drop sharply while I was away? Ma'am, I already said it was not indigenous. It was a derelict spacecraft. It was an alien ship. It was not from there. Do you get it? We homed in on its beacon.
>replace spaceship with oogabooga genetical engineering pyramid
>invent a time machine
>travel back to 2009
>kill Ridley Scott
Alien vs Terminator
Alien vs Judge Dredd
Alien vs Robocop
Alien vs samurais
Alien vs batman
Alien vs Jason x
Alien vs ATLiens
>me and you
>yo mama and yo cousin too
>covered in blood and gore
>trying to open up the airlock door
i genuinely think shit like alien vs terminator could be good
it's just that everybody in Hollywood is a onions-riddled homosexual with no talent
same here
AvP was John Carpenter tier
>AvP was John Carpenter tier
is that supposed to be a compliment?
avp sucked, but then again so does john carpenter kinda sorta
Wait, what's ATLiens?
Just 2 dope boyz in a Cadillac.
Black person rap album
would alien's acid metal terminator's metal?
actually, nvm, it should. it was at risk of melting a hole through a whole damn spaceship.
terminator gets fricked alone. more interesting would be skynet vs. a massive alien hive.
>Alien vs Terminator
This is the only place left to go
Make the aliens a threat to skynets creation via its potential to whipe out humanity and so have it send back a terminator to help on a deep space expedition
Then you have your psychic Android as part of the crew
They already did Alien vs Predator vs The Terminator.
What about Alien vs Kramer?
Very simple:
1. introduce a new threat, an even scarier alien virus/mutation discovered on a different planet.
2. make the alien virus spread on earth, go full out on the zombie apocalypse idea except with aliens. Make it play in the future so humans have a chance, kinda like Halo.
3. make the aliens gain human intelligence and build ships and weapons like in Warhammer 40k with the tyranids. Humans see a huge fleet of alien tyranid ships approaching and hastily build as many weapons and ships as possible.
I can go on and on.
>I can go on and on.
Don't.
>humans see massive hive ships coming to earth
>they have literal weeks so prepare
>they don’t
>they die
That’s the movie then moron. Even with basic drones and warrior aliens. Let’s not count praetorians and other genestealer type mutations. We’d lose faster than a moronic midget in a basketball game
>3. make the aliens gain human intelligence and build ships and weapons like in Warhammer 40k with the tyranids. Humans see a huge fleet of alien tyranid ships approaching and hastily build as many weapons and ships as possible.
Frick off.
and they can have a character named ripley and she's ripley's great granddaughter and the leader of the resistance but she doesn't know that until she's grabbed by a face hugger but it recognizes her through genetic memory and lets her go without impregnation holy shit
Just make another horror with him. Action films with aliens just never work
They should have let Ridley go ahead with his original vision for Covenant
Give them big breasts
Weyland-Yutani bioweapons division black site. A few ayy's eventually break free as usual, after some insight into their behavior similar to that in the comic Aliens Labyrinth. The few scientists and security team need to deal with the dilemma of both ensuring the specimens don't escape the facility and surviving. Grounded slow going horror without a lot of action, no pants shitting morons. Level headed people slowly folding under the pressure. One of the last two surviving "heroes" of the story is killed by the other. Turns out it was corporate espionage all along, he let the ayy's out intentionally to sabotage W-Y. Verbally sends a transmission to Bionational to spell it out for the morons. Roll credits.
I don't get why they want to weaponize the xenos so bad when they already have super strong androids and shit that are even smarter than xenos. Just make a weaponized android.
androids cost money, the xenos unleashed on a world costs nothing.
if you plan on using that world for anything then xenoing it cost the clean up after and all the lives lost during the clean up and the massive risk of fricking yourself over, all it takes is one hidden egg or hugger and suddenly your xenoing your own planet
well yeah, it's scorched earth. Only for enemies too hard to kill otherwise. Maybe that's why they were made, they were fighting a superior force or maybe they have a genetic off switch. ("after 5000 generations, they start having defects and die off naturally")
in think it's a moronic scorched earth tactic, if you nuke or bombard or completely wipe out a planet by other means then the thing you used doesn't have the chance to leave the planet and butt frick you, xenos have that chance
Issue with that is infrastructure destruction. Xenos as a purger is admittedly dumb, but their damage to the world around them would be mostly inconsequential.
unless anyone fights back and acid blood gets sprayed everywhere
Just unleashing them on a planet with no control is stupid, you'd never be able to ensure the planet is safe to move your own people in. All it takes is one little egg hidden somewhere.
If you don't care about using the planet yourself, then it's cheaper and a lot faster to just fling a big rock at it.
turn it into a horror anthology of unconnected stories swapped by spacers at a station. throw out the plot. it doesnt need anything besides in space no one can hear you scream.
the only way that woud work is if they had genetic killswitch built in to the xenomorph.
exactly, horror anthology with a bunch of figgerent kinds of aliens.
It's moreso that the United Americas wants to weaponize it, and Weyland-Yutani is working with them as a contractor. Weyland-Yutani itself still wants to try and domesticate them for other applications like bioengineering, pharmacology and fabrication.
The zoo/experiments lab/Alien 4/Jurassic Park idea would work far far better for a sandbox action video game. It's much more interesting to build shit, sabotage others' zoo tycoons/strongholds or see the aliens set your zoo on fire.
we need to Jurassic park it, we need teams of scientists working on creating real xenomorphs so we can open a wildlife theme park, that should generate some new interest and excitement about the franchise
Let it be dead. Should've dropped it after the obvious creative bankruptcy of Alien 3.
dont overthink it
one smallish location
ordinary people vs one alien or gun-toting people vs multiple
good acting, interesting action set-pieces, that's all you need
This. And preferably make some movies from the perspective of the Alien to grab the attention of those Pokemon HTTYD Batman animal furry alien lovers.
OR
You go the full Riddick 2 / Stargate / Startrek / Fantastic Planet way and make an exploration documentary about the space jockeys with as much depth as Warhammer 40k lore. Except you make it a series so the world design isn't confined to 90 minutes.
How would (you) homosexuals feel about a movie from the perspective of the alien or predator? would it attract even more superhero action gays?
People enjoyed AVP1 whenever it was only the predator and alien bits, but absolutely hated the boring ass humans and the Black person.
No no, just the Alien and Predator parts were also god fricking awful.
Lake of fire forever for anyone that likes that movie.
i must disagree anon, the mystery and confusion makes for much better monsters, as soon as you start explaining them and adding to "the lore" you make them less scary, and boring
might as well say there should've only been one western because how many times can you redo cowboys and indians?
you dont even need to perfectly recycle because the alien lore allows for different monsters: it's presumed that aliens take on some of the morphology of the host, thus with a human host the alien is four-legged, somewhat bipedal
of course this is what happens in alien 3, but that was a good movie
>i must disagree anon, the mystery and confusion makes for much better monsters, as soon as you start explaining them and adding to "the lore" you make them less scary, and boring
That's just an excuse for bad writers who can't come up with ideas, however yes the way to do it would be to have a LOTR and Warhammer level of lore waiting hidden in the background, but it's never suppose to be released to the public, you only show bits and pieces of it and the audience is suppose to put on their detective caps and figure it out. That's 90% of the fun of /x/ stuff.
Even if you'd show to the audience stuff they would have no idea what the hell are they staring at.
That's movies 1 and 2.
The only fixable part is forgetting the rest of them.
We let it go.
Find a different alien. Space is pretty large, they should get creative.
just make it so that only Alien and Aliens are canon then don't make any more movies
Take off and nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.
Get with the times and make it about a stronk waman vs a female Ali-
and then they have lesbian alien sex just like in Alien 3 & Alien 4, right?
>Alien
>Aliens
>Resurrections
>Vs Predator
The first 2 for kino.
The last 2 for campy fun.
Remake the Original without CGI and declare all other films to be non-cannon.
Get rid of the queen concept and have the "eggs" just be reprocessed bio-mass of everything the aliens kill.
Introduce a female alien. She is on heat.
The spaceship is full of men obviously. She rapes them and then kills them. The last survivor has a big white wiener. She rapes him as usual but loves the sex so much she doesn't kill him. They have sex multiple times a day. But they can't have children so she bio modifies her body to become more human. Now they can have children and start a new happy life.
What Species should had been, but also failed at doing that.
Species 3 kinda came close to a benevolent alien with a happy ending, but the college bio scientist kid left them infertile.
I rewatched the quadrology and there's a lot fewer sex scenes than I remember in it. Species 3 & 4 sucked even worse than Alien 3 & 4 when 1 & 2 already sucked ass and Hitman drove circles around it. Just like The Thing drives circles around Alien and Species. Unfortunately The Thing has no memorable design, it's just a mass of blob which often takes human or dog form.
The Thing is a movie meant for white supremacists, racists and sexists.
hows that mental illness going?
Have it be 2 hours of a human man (me) making love to a curvy female xenomorph
After Ripley shoots the Alien out the back of the ship's exhaust he lands in Antarctica and must fight the Thing.
The alien would kill and eat the infected, and suddenly its the thing itself.
There would be no fight.
Impossible. The Alien would beat the thing as it is “the most perfect animal ever created.” It would get its acid blood on the Thing and kill it right there.
You don't. Leave it alone. Even as flawed as it is Alien 3 is the perfect ending.
Cancel the TV show and make a third prequel.
Only keep the first two films (and Alien Isolation) canon, let Blonkamp do his do-over Alien 3, stop trying to explain the history of the aliens.
>thinking a blomkamp alien movie wouldn't be reddit-tier
>How do we fix the Alien franchise?
it's exactly this type of mentality that leads to soap opera-tier writing
Really you just need a small group of people isolated attempting to survive the alien with some sort of new twist, like maybe the Alien develops feelings for one of the crew members or something and decides not to kill him/her and use them for something else.
Actually I really like my idea about the alien developing feelings for a human, but it should be twisted somehow. Like maybe its a guy and they're forced to be a birthing canal for eggs or something.
>Alien develops feelings for one of the crew members or something and decides not to kill him/her
how to ruin the alien forever, that white half human alien was bad enough
and there we go of course it's a coomer fetish
>some sort of new twist
This is the reason it fails. They try too hard to make "le epic twist" that people don't see coming and it ends up completely devaluing the original monster and what made it cool and scary. It's especially true of Predator.
With Alien Resurrection it was the Hybrid.
With Predators it was the Bigger Predator
With The Predator it was the DNA merging Autism hunt
These movies have a formula that works already and just needs to be applied to different circumstances, but then the problem with this is that you're just rehashing the original and it becomes predictable, so the solution is to just not bother at all and enjoy the originals for what they are.
If you want some homosexual twist or massive exposition on their background or origin then just make a new fricking movie that's completely unrelated and if your idea is good it will stand up on its own without having to lean on a preexisting franchise to get people to see it.
The AvP crossover was the only way they could have kept it interesting but they did a shit job of both movies with crappy effects, shit writing, bobble-head Predators, retconning lore and soap-tier human drama.
Just adapt the AvP comics if you fricking have to do anything and let it rest.
You literally can't because the xenomorph is no longer scary.
Overexposure killed it, there's no mystique and eariness to it anymore. we all know what it looks like. we all know what it is. it's not scary anymore therefore it doesn't make for a good horror monster
Aliens destroyed it.
I recently rewatched Prometheus and Covenant. What honestly surprised me is how well Prometheus has aged and how terrible Covenant is.
I think the main reason is that we all know "what" the xenomorph is and does. Were not shocked anymore at facehuggers and spooky jumpscares with the xeno. Meanwhile Prometheus, despite its flaws, has alot of mystery and fear of the unknown. You know that its somewhat related, but cant really tell what is gonna happen. It worked. Covenant was just the next run of the mill monster movie.
So how do you fix the franchise? Either you change the genre (like Aliens did) and make it an action film. Or you make it a survival film set in a different plant (Crew crashlands on an unknown planet and must survive not only xenomorphs, but also other native lifeforms.) Or you go back to the roots and somehow tie the story to Weyland-Yutani. Either by setting it on earth, some moon-lab or even another prequel/sequel not related to the engineer/Alien 3 storylines.
How about open up questions about the alien rather than answering all of them.
Also make them threatening again.
>How about open up questions about the alien rather than answering all of them.
Thats why I said Prometheus>Covenant. Questions>Answers.
>Also make them threatening again.
Impossible, unless you change the genre and make it a survival film akin to that video game.
More David.
THATS IT NOW IM REAL ANGRY
And then we poke you with a stick and also throw a folded chair in the air.
this. have him unleash his new science projects on the engineers
This but unironically.
We collectively poke the alien with a stick. Best plan ever.
stop expanding the lore with dumb shit
I genuinely thought the premise of AvP was a great idea and enjoyed the films. They should have expanded on the alien/predator hybrid that burst through the dead predator's chest at the end of requiem.
Of course it would take some who is actually talented to write that kind of script and create an interesting story, which hollyisraelite doesnt have.
You want a good story? First you need to hire a scifi to write a book, someone like Neal Asher. You need the book first because someone who is a wold builder first to set the scene. Screenwriters are terrible at this with very few exceptions. All they generally do is cannibalize an established fictional universe, not create them. They use the same tried tropes and gut the entire story to get the character and fanbase and focus solely on 1.5 hours of shit tier action flick.
Simple, stop doing it. Get a good writer to create the Universe and new characters and get an entire established lore and world created THEN you can do what you always and turn it to shit, but at least there will be something to turn to shit, not start out from get as a pile of shit.
Star Wars didnt get its deep lore and Universe from Lucas, it was the EU writers that created it all. If you let so,e talented authors have a crack at the Aliens IP then you get the benefit of first profit sharing with them anything they produce and secondly exclusive rights to cannibalize it into your shitty film. It is a no lose situation.
So the tldr, stop letting hack droolers try to write "original" scripts and let someone who is actually creative and talented build the world and story THEN you can let your hacks attempt to adapt it to the big screen.
That will 100.000 dollar consulting fee. YW
sorry for all the typos, typed this on my phone and it isnt easy to type something this long on a phone. I will expect my consulting fee to be paid within the week or I will see you in court.
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>I genuinely thought the premise of AvP was a great idea and enjoyed the films.
They were godawful. The only good thing from 2 full films was the "lore", when Weyland people find the gun and it basically sets up the notion that human technology advanced thanks to Predator tech.
yah I agree they were shitty, but the idea was great and it carried me through the shit films. The first one especially was an AMAZING premise that had the potential to be epic as the first pred or first aliens, go down in cinematic history, but they screwed the pooch unfortunately. It can be redeemed however if they get a good scifi author to first build the Universe outside of a shitty movie script.
The backstory from the 1st, the practical effects in 2nd and some of the gore and fights in both were great too. I also enjoyed Sanaa Lathan (and not just because she's a thicc ebony queen) and Lance Henrikson's role. Also the Wolf predator and the glimpse of Yautja planet that we got.
Yah Sanaa was great. It was kind of a lame angle to have the story being told from the perspective of some artic expedition leader, especially a black one (how many Black folks are leading expeditions in the arctic" lol come on dude) but she made the best of it and hit a home run imo.
The problem is that Alien 1 was a masterpiece. From futuristic tech/setting, to the premise to the acting. Aliens was a typical Cameron action film with incredible set designs, probs and overall feel of the colonial marines being believable. Some people dont like the Queen, I love the idea.
The problem with AVP and AVP2 is that theyre both closer to Predator than to Alien imo. Theyre both mindless action flicks with 0 quality. Nothing they did was groundbreaking, nor was it well executed. Theyre mindless R-rated fun. Nothing more.
actually I misspoke here too. The alien didnt bust thought the pred's chest in requiem, it did it in the first one, then second film completely abandoned this which was fricking stupid. I imagine most people were waiting to see that expanded on then the studio did a completel u-turn and abandoned it which probably put a sour taste in everyone's mouth who gave a shit about it. Hire Neal Asher to write a book and build the predator home world Universe and story that starts at the end of the first AVp movie. They take the alien back tot heir homeworld or something like that. Not only do you get a great movie but now you dont have to be limited to the sitty movies you made for sequels. You will have something that is actually good for future sequels to build off of
>actually I misspoke here too. The alien didnt bust thought the pred's chest in requiem, it did it in the first one, then second film completely abandoned this which was fricking stupid
Black person you're moronic. The entire plot of the second one was the hybrid infecting the shit out of the town.
Just do the Earth War story line from the comics and show how hellish earth would be when some place like Bangladesh goes full infestation mode.
An i misremembering or when aliens take over a place with billions of humans they can farm the humans to some extent? The humans eating goo provided by the aliens and being sort of mindless and dumbed down did i make that up?
In general, more films where the aliens are machine gunned down in droves but they still win in the end.
Just make the goddamn sequel to Alien:Isolation already. Or let the same team adapt Aliens and Alien 3 the same way they did the first movie in DLC. I'd wager they could get some really hellish locations out of A3 setting.
I would play the frick outta those. They adapted Alien in the dlc and it was kino to relive the movie
We let It fricking die already.
CHRIST that looks cool. too bad the avatar universe is too tame to attempt horror.
Why save it. There's nothing terribly unique or scary about the creature anymore, not after 40 years of copycats. Most people think the only good ones are the first two. The ''mythology'' of the recent films is a jumbled mess nobodies cares about anyway: who made these creatures what are the engineers?!?!? who gives a shit.
the magic is long gone, at this point they are like classic Hollywood monsters like Frankenstein or Wolf Man.
Pretty much this. Its the problem of the simple-premise monster, the more we know about them the less interesting they usually become. There were some interesting concepts in Prometheus, especially David being alive in Covenant and doing his own thing. But the movie was honestly bogged down by forcing the alien stuff in there, like all that shit just to show where a xeno came from in the most convoluted way that doesnt even make sense.
Sequels of these movies should have focused on good actors/characters trying to survive the xenos in different situations while keeping the monsters as mysterious as possible, but even then they probably wouldnt be as good as the original films.
Turn outbreak into a movie. Go whole hog too, incorporate Prometheus and Blade Runner into it. The Alien cult, the replicants who at this point don't know they're human, it's all ripe for a hella good movie.
Then the next movie we can get an Aliens running apeshit over earth, the company trying to weaponize them, the fight to take back earth, etc. We can even add in Jeri, one of the most beloved characters from the comic
We got alien, Prometheus and covenant out of it. That's enough kino
Dennis
Villeneuve
Honestly just reboot AvP and set it around the time of the first two Alien movies, while making the events of the first two Predator movies canon. Seeing high-tech Colonial jarheads cleaning up corporate messes on exotic worlds while also having to deal with the occasional Predator incursion would be kino as frick, especially if they kept the whole Syd Mead 80s futurism aesthetic with all the bulky computers and utilitarian environment designs
make this the new lifecycle
Commit Ridley Scott to a nursing home.
>horror audience
>science fiction audience
Choose one
retcon everything after the first movie and ban anything to do with alien to ever be made ever again.
>How do we fix the Alien franchise?
A properly done Alien and Predator merger plot points:
1) Retcon the idea that the heads of human military and science were already copying the Predators in the film Aliens in that they planted both the queen xeno and the terraforming colonists then sent in the military "trial participants".
2) Show the existence of one or more human controlled exoplanet game hunting reserves similar to that of of the Yautja's shown in Predators. Then show the Predators finding one and covertly observing humans performing their own "hunts".
3) Finally show that the Engineers were covertly spying on the Yautja covertly spying on the humans doing their hunts.
4) Engineers finally team up with the Yautja and humans to Big Reveal the meaning of the black goo and the xenos.
5) Sequel bait post credits.
By incubating more eggs
Make the Alien black, give it BBC and make it a love story about how it falls in love with a white (scientist) girl or something and they fight Nazis together.
Make a direct to DVD/Streaming movie series that's just high budget sfx fetish porn of hot women getting impregnated by aliens. There will be consensual and also rape scenes. Various alien/hugger variants to penetrate all orifices. Detailed shots of pregnant bellies with movement. Detailed "births". Gory and nongory.
>How do we fix the Alien franchise?
by stop making movies.
Bump
Maybe go back to the roots of the original films involving the original characters like Ripley, Newt and Hicks. If you can't do that at least continue Ripley's story after Resurrection. The original story was far more interesting than what Scott made with Prometheus. A battle torn earth overrun with Aliens sounds fantastic.
That guy that was going to do the original Alien 3 probably had the right idea. Turning the alien into an incarnation of evil in the eyes of hermit monks and Weaver being like Pandora who has caused their destruction. It would be an actual exploration of faith in the unknown expanse of the cosmos and how it survives unlike prometheus.
Nah, it's like the later italian westerns babbling philosophy and communism, don't try to elevate a genre that is seen as lower by attaching this garbage.
Its better than turning them into dumb insects who walk straight into gunfire.
>dumb insects
>What do you mean "THEY cut the power"? How could they cut the power, man? They're animals!
>who walk straight into gunfire
They literally made a point of them learning to not approach the sentry gun turrets just as they ran out of ammo.
Convenient yes but proves they are not moronic animals, unlike you, speedwatcher.
>tries to open closing door
>jumps onto a moving vehicle
>jump out at every available moment
>get wasted by sentry guns until they finally find a better way into the facility
>dont try to hide from Ripleys gunfire
nah, they are dumb
>judging creatures intelligence based on first interactions and understanding human technology and concepts
You're a moron
The first alien was inquisitive and suspicious. Watching and waiting before attacking. The ones in Aliens are moronic cousins.
The first Alien was alone and outnumbered.
The hive is a hive with a Queen they need to protect. This behavior is present in hive-animals IRL and is even emphasised for our slower viewers when they don't kill Ripley because she is threatening the Queen.
They changed a lot about the Alien in the sequel, and the first movie definitely better, but to say they're just "dumb animals" is not an argument and just makes you look like a fricking idiot.
>gather extremely talented people to make new movie
>everything is non canon except Alien
Fixed it for you.
I'm confident the franchise could be saved with the right talent but only after Disney fails again and the IP is beyond dead and buried. All we get until then is "good enough" fan re-edits.
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/prometheus-giftbearer/
ADRIAN BRODY IS israeli?! OMG GUYS WHO WOULD KNOW IT'S SOMETHING LIKE ILLUMINATI SHIT
I thought he was french...
>israeli people exist and are related to one another
Yes, and?
He's implying that if we remove the israeli nepotism from filmmaking, the films will improve.
He's right.
damn this explains everything.
Literally just reboot the whole thing and just keep the giger aliens and the overall look and feel of the first two movies.
>How do we fix the Alien franchise?
Accept that about 80-90% of the EU is actually decent and a better foundation to work from than the movies.
This is what people don't seem to grasp - the EU is better than the films. Alien and Aliens were great seeds to much greener things and should be left alone rather than hackishly aped over and over. Just look at Star Wars - they did this in terms of Rogue 1.
They could do the same for Aliens. Dark Horse comics did a pretty decent job with the IP and no one really has any major complaints with what they've produced.
In addition:
>A 1-2-1 translation of Cold Forge to the big screen. It's an awesome story that would translate into a great 1-shot self contained Alien film.
>Earth War would make a solid setting for multiple films (maybe a quad).
>Jeri the Synthetic Xenomorph, if played right, would be an instant iconic.
I've only read Alien comics, haven't touched novels yet. Are they worth reading?
Also I wholeheartedly agree with
>Jeri the Synthetic Xenomorph, if played right, would be an instant iconic.
Let Scott direct that one last movie and then we can put the IP to rest.
Make AvP but in AvP2 game style
How come there is still no live action material featuring Colonial Marines vs Predator?
Make a TV series.
I dont know what the plot would be or who would star in it though. Just make a fricking series.
see
. The tv series is already in the works.
>How do we fix the Alien franchise?
You don't
Earth War is cringe.
Xenomorph x Human love interest
is the pussy juice acidic?
No, but your dick with melt when you break her hymen.
white aliens
The 4th movie is honesty pretty hot like if I was her I would also try to frick the alien. and god fears his own creations and that's why this movie is made and it makes so much sense and you guys haters
ask a real ayyyreeinn
Prometheus remake
prometheus was bad but the one after was revolting.
yup it deserves to be memoryholed
ignore prometheus
Ignore alien 3+4
Ignore AVP
make the alien a mysterious insect like creature again
Copy a comic book storyline
make an AVP movie but actually good
You're describing putting Alien Isolation on the big screen. I agree, it would be incredible kino
I unirronicly enjoy all of the alien films including both avps and Prometheus and covenant, fight me homosexuals
Alien v Conan