How do we get Zoomers interested in comic book culture Cinemaphile?
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WHY WON'T THE ZOOM ZOOMS CONSOOM OUR CAPESLOP?
Zoomers are already interested in comics, they just call them Manga
I was on the bus with some pajeet school kids who were all raving about Demon Slayer and power levels and shit, there's hope for this generation yet.
>Zoomers are already interested in comics, they just call them Manga
this
it's to the point that independent online Western creatives call their webcomics manga, for no real reason.
Black person, that's been going on since the early 2000's. And it's been going on in print since the 90's. Honestly, that's what I don't get about this entire discussion. Everyone acts like it's a new thing, but the American audience has been into manga for literal decades. Fred Perry made his entire career drawing the same Amerimanga. Every other webcomic of the early 2000's was someone with zero experience and an anime addiction trying to emulate what they saw on screen. Tracy Butler did the cover for the first edition of Ironclaw in 1999, and it's an obvious anime reference.
You would have to genuinely be pushing 50 to even remember a time when manga and anime weren't popular. And manga is popular everywhere. France is the second largest market for it, aside from Japan. Total, not per capita, which means the French read waaaaaayyyy more manga than Americans. But what does France also have? A healthy native comics industry that doesn't seem to be panicking about dying out. Frick, it's actively getting in on the manga/anime boom, with stuff like Wakfu and Code Lyoko.
The problem here is 100% the American industry itself.
Kek the amount zoomers i see with manga/anime shirts everyday is astounding, while the only time i saw a millenial shirt, it was being worn by a fat 30 something year old
>millenial shirt
Yu-Gi-Oh is getting really weird.
I laughed
Manga/anime is the normiest shit ever. I'm a millenial and it was popular even when I was in high school.
>normie
Unironically a good thing.
Seeing kids naturally pivot toward stories with a genuine sense of adventure and moral fortitude, things modern comic writer don't want to provide, gives me hope for the future. This along with the reaction to Wish makes me think the zoomers will be all right.
>Unironically a good thing
you ought to be ashamed
And cartoons make furries, and comics are currently dominated by actual transsexuals. For every person like your pic, there are a hundred thousand kids who learn the value of hard work, protecting the weak, being faithful, and daring to have an adventure. You know, things comics used to be about too.
So we'll get a few weirdos. We'll also get a lot of childhood injuries from kids trying to run like ninjas, just as kids used to break their legs trying to be Superman. I'll take it.
You're telling that's cringe but
isn't?
>genuine sense of adventure and moral fortitude
>mango
lol
lmao even
You must have a sense of adventure to go on the subway dressed like that.
the irony of this image is that dude's hat is from splatoon, he's 100% a weeb too
To give an actual argument Manga doesn't have aligned morals. A lot of them range from overall good to overall bad or have moral characters be sidelined while the major players are borderline if not actually psychopaths.
Good example is to look at Naruto. He literally drops the bigger and more moral argument that Neiji to murder his cousin in favor of Neiji insulting Naruto's dream. That is not a good moral lesson and Naruto himself fails to impart this on Neiji. Whereas someone like Luffy took a beating from Bellamy knowing he would be childish for fighting back against petty insults but then destroys him the moment he hurt someone he was friends with. Or Ichigo invading Soul Society and fighting Byakuya because he thought killing Rukia was moronic and he made that clear to Byakuya. Naruto would have mashed out at Bellamy (and gotten his ass kicked) and would have gone after Byakuya because he called him "slow". Yet Naruto is the more popular of these three.
>Moral Fortitude
ZOOMIE! It's time for moe blob e-girl shit again!
Anon we live in a world where a dumb b***h was praised by dumber b***hes for writing Hikaru Genji. The only moral lesson kids are going to get from manga is they need to raise their wives.
I'd be more worried about the people who take Rent a Girlfriend to heart.
Girls can read whatever they want. They are frivolous.
Question is, what the frick are you doing reading Hikaru Genji?
The Marvels is the only one with a bad audience dems. Spider-Verse, Ant Man and Guardians had a good mix of Gen Z and millennials.
By fixing cartoons
Spider-Man is failproof
crossover with skibidi toilet
>that headline
maybe because these people don't really go to the movies
Did you miss that rise of gru trend or what?
That was a meme and an exception.
Surely the answer is to hire more homosexuals and women.
come back to its roots, make hot anthro fox females
Hopefully they don't and capeshit dies back so something interesting can actually happen with it.
Stop pretending to care about comics when all you read is boring indieslop that contributes nothing to the medium.
Your reinforcing his point, capetard.
What point? All you impotent anti-capeshit homosexuals do is b***h and whine.
I didn't say that, moron. I don't care for superhero comics, but indieshit isn't helping the medium/industry either.
>he pretended to care just to argue
Holy shit the irony.
what the frick is "the industry" moron, the mainstream slop you consume ? lol
>noooo you HAVE to like capeslop, you're not a REAL fan of comic books otherwise
Lmao
>boring indieslop that contributes nothing to the medium.
wut? How does this make sense
Indies are actually taking chances with genres outside of capeshit
what are capecomics contributing to the medium? please tell me, id like to be entertained
He's not actually into capeshit. He just wanted a reason to argue.
Get fricked capebaby
Is it so hard to accept that trends don't last forever and the superhero craze was inevitably gonna die down eventually?
They can't accept it. They also can't accept that they released a slew of garbage and low quality movies.
make it 200 pages of hardcore joker harley sex
make scans of them
same way we always did, groom em.
Americans superhero comics were always artificially enforced, worthless slop. Without the comics code they would have been overtaken by superior, more artistically sound comics like it happened in europe where pulp shit died pretty fast and was replaced by stuff that was actually entertaining to read.
The new generations have gotten a taste of actually fun comic books, aka manga, before they got forced into consuming this shit and they have no reason to care about big two shit with its atrocious art and garbage writing.
Like anything american, american comics don't actually stand up to any amount of legitimate competition, and had to rig the local market to even be viable. Now that that's not an option anymore,it is on its way out. Natural selection at work.
This.
People here just have stockholm syndrome when it comes to capeshit because they grew up with it.
Ask anyone else to buy a into a mediocre franchise with little narrative depth where anything you get invested in can be retconned away at the drop of a hat and nothing ever really happens and they'll look at you like you're crazy.
Zoomers don't like anything but TikTok
They literally don't even like having sex
>They literally don't even like having sex
they would if they actually had it.
More than half of guys are virgins
women are fricking like crazy but they go for older guys with cash
Hmm, I wonder what could be causing this financial situation. Better keep printing.
>they would if they actually had it.
>More than half of guys are virgins
>women are fricking like crazy but they go for older guys with cash
This will clearly have no adverse social circumstances in a decade. Let's keep destroying traditional communities, glorifying worthless bawds, and subsidizing dating apps that exploit this flaw in human behavior en masse. I want to see how non-adverse this can get. Developed nations don't need population maintaining reproduction levels. Especially when you can just import and even sudsidize masses of uneducated immigrants with no national identity or loyalty using the money that the declining population produces.
Everyone got better after the depression, and a lot of future mothers were prostitutes during that. I'm talking cities full of them.
Skill issue. I'm 25 and fricking a woman I love who is taller and stronger than me. God is great.
Amen.
marvel doesn't have a gen-z problem, cinema does
however, since mcu is designed around getting huge turnout across varying demographics, it hurts them
gen z didn't go see the latest scorcesse either, but that didn't matter because no one expected them to
Spider-Man is the exception it seems
because gen-z might not like movies, but they do like fomo events
The perfect storm of 9/11 coinciding with the release of Raimi's film basically immortalised him in the hearts of Americans. Disney tried the same thing with iron man to a lesser effect.
Is it so hard to believe the genre is dead?
This shit happened to Westerns
It happened to Detective Films
It happened to Scifi B movies
It happened to slasher movies
Every trend eventually fricking dies.
Being actually good instead of depending 100% on nostalgia-bait would probably help
Zoomers don't care about the MCU, an 18 year old would have been 4 when Iron Man came out. The MCU is nearly 20 years old.
Gen Z starts in 1996. The oldest of the cohort would be 12 when the movie came out.
Boys didn't like it and that's why girls didn't went to see it neither, try to appeal that demographic next time instead of whatever this shit was made for.
Stop writing shitty comic books.
By making them cool. That's it.
>Amerifat
>thinks capes equal comics
You have only yourselves to thank for this, and the only thing going wrong here is that capes and their idiot fans aren't dying fast enough.
We're just waiting for the las old collectors and speculators to die so the industry can finally die with them.
They and their stupid variant covers never cared about the contents of the comics anyway.
Ha, it's funny, you always hear them talk here about how much they needed to replace the old fans with new fans but in reality they never managed to actually gain any new generation of fans.
They alienated whole generations of old fans to appeal to a market that is already obsessed with manga and never cared about your stupid comics and yet they still refused to learn any of the lessons from the manga industry.
Well this feels like poetic justice of you ask me.
Zoomers aren't blinded by the cartoon nostalgia.
Yes they are. They're just nostalgic for gayer shit.
Have you tried putting a diverse chick in it and making her gay and lame?
>How do we get Zoomers interested in comic book culture Cinemaphile?
Make comic book movies look like anime, or rather
Do it like the comics of the 90s, bring in actors who can do their stunts, cast actresses like the young Cynthia Rothrock and Michelle Yeoh to do great fight scenes, nobody sees that in DC or the MCU, cast actresses with the body of work that the genre demands, using the outrageous customs that Feige hates so much and that have made him and many investors lose money, lol and give preference to great stories that follow the comics, forget about casting skeletons, people don't like that and they don't like seeing women acting and looking like men Bring beautiful people back to the movies
I went to my Barnes and Noble and there were like 50 zoomers in the Manga section.
Why would people born in 2005-2008 care about a fricking 4th or 5th generation garbage film that links to something made in 2008? When they were born?
The Avengers came out while they were still in elementary school. For them cape movies are just some film genre for old people.
They don't care about the characters and are not going to watch the backlog of movies and series that came out the past decade to catch up.
These movies were NEVER marketed to kids.
Stop making it so hard to get into.
>all comics are capes
This attitude right here is why your industry is failing.
>eurotards seething about America and pretending their trash is good
Great thread.
Rent free.
>r-r-rent free
Your worthless projection doesn't work, sorry. Try dying, that'd help.
>Try dying
I am not the American comics industry.
>only proves my point
Eurotards and mangatards are every bit as moronic as the slop they read, amazing.
Dude, Superman just got rebooted again, gotta buy that no.1 issue!
>so angry he just starts saying random shit
LMAO. Keep seething about your irrelevant capes, my obese compadre.
Nah, I'll just be laughing at you and your seething, at least until you inevitably 41%. Then I'll laugh even harder.
Keep it up. You can use the exercise, fatty.
I can feel your crying as you typed that out, troon. Go on, entertain me further.
just get a room, it's clear to us that there is a saucy spark involved here
I'm not interested in trannies, sorry.
"Does Marvel have a Gen-Z Problem"
Yeah, it's called "They were the kids who grew up on the MCU and now their tired of it."
Gen Z started in 1997. That means that its OVERWHELMINGLY likely that there was a Zoomer who saw the original Iron Man in theatres as an elementary school kid who then watched Avengers End Game as the last thing he did with his friends before going to college. Literally every early Zoomer grew up with the MCU being THE. BIG. THING. in their childhood. Now they're bored. The big superhero story of their childhood end when Cap gave the Shield to Falcon and Tony Stark died, so why would they keep watching now?
They associated it with their childhood.
Now they’re teens and young adults and like you said, are bored with it.
This thread refuses to address how absolutely unlikable that movie is. Everything about it feels completely repulsive. Like it's made by wine aunts for wine aunts
And I don't care if you troons call me a chud or whatever, but female protagonists are always unappealing.
I mean, it's unappealing nature more comes from the fact that the leads are
>Character propped up to be the MCU's Superman analog, who only had one movie and then barely showed up in the big finale two-parter because she doesn't give a shit about Earth
>Character who only showed up in a Disney + show after the hype of the MCU Disney + shows died down
>A literal BACKGROUND character, turned side character, turned main character whose entire character development you would have needed to have obsessively watched all Marvel content to get
I wouldn't want to watch a movie about Mera from Aquaman, Killer Frost from the CW Flash show, and Tara Strong dressed as Raven either. It's a mess.
>I wouldn't want to watch a movie about Mera from Aquaman, Killer Frost from the CW Flash show, and Tara Strong dressed as Raven either.
You are weak.
I'm sure DUDE CATS LMAO-tier "comedy" doesn't help either.
It's like Arkham games. The first one was genuinely amazing even if you could argue it's a bit dated now mechanically. The atmosphere in particular was top notch and a perfect fit for Batman. I'm more mixed of games that came after, but whatever.
Now look at Suicide Squad trailers, it looks like edgy redditor trash (not even edgy in any cool way, just juvenile edgy) and if it fails, you'd see people on this very board claiming that people are just tired of Arkham stuff and avoiding mentioning how fricking shit it looks.
>Tara Strong dressed as Raven
Just make good product, simple as.
Write good stories, have decent art, make the books cheap and the stories self-contained.
fire diversity hires and replace them with people who actually know their stuff. It works everywhere and every time.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/07/24/ms-marvel-producer-sana-amanat-calls-for-people-to-complain-to-kevin-feige-to-greenlight-a-second-season-after-series-was-marvels-worst-performing-disney-show/
it's all garbage rehashed sameshit so we don't
It really is a shame what a disservice the industry leaders have done to comics. Shortsighted business models that focused on immediate profits over quality or innovation and recycling stale IPs forever have drained the life out of an entire medium reducing it to an unpopular niche. Not even the success of movies based on their own properties could breathe new life into them. I wouldn't care if Marvel/DC were content to churn out stale garbage if their almost total stranglehold on the industry didn't choke the life out of the medium. In Japan while most Shonen is bland and formulaic, it at least isn't afraid to throw new stuff at the wall and is responsive enough to audience desires to maintain a certain level of popularity for the medium and buoy the industry which creates an ecosystem that can support creators who want to do their own thing.