>how do we make zombies scarry
Gee, i fricking dont know. Maybe atleast try to make it so that you cant just whack one with something, split it open, get blood allover yourself, and then be like "oh, its fine i got blood and guts and whatever shit allover me, it did not bite me, so im fine". Should be so that even getting near (like 1 meter) can potentially cause infection. And im not even talking about contamination of water, soil, fomites, potential vectors and other things.
Zombie by itself is not scary. What is scarry is starving to death because of them, lack of the very basic means of survival. Water is undrinkable and boiling/treating it is 50/50 chance of it being just barely good enough to drink without infection, cant grown anything in contaminated soil, cant eat even cooked meat because animals might carry the infection.
if that - just bare survival - is not enough, give them some mutations. Ones that vomit and spread putrescent liquid or if hit can just burst a volume of putrescence out all around (if infected had some bowel/gastrointestinal conditions or diabetes or whatever). Some spread miasma (volatile gases, aerosoles). Stuff like that. Chalk it all up to be sciency and make sense (sound logic behind it).
Thats it.
You need a very confined space to make zombies scary. They're scary the same way a home intruder is scary, it's a very basic fear of intrusion at all times, constant alert, no rest.
But now it might be too late, it might be impossible. We collectively see them as bullet sponges now, nothing else.
We associate zombies with action, not with claustrophobia.
This 100%, and don't fall into the Walking Dead shit where zombies just show up 5 meters behind them on a big open field and nobody noticed beforehand.
stop making them a metaphor for general hardship and make them embody death again. the whole appeal is the metaphysical element that the dead won't stay dead and logic has shat itself. it's not scary because it's trying to kill you, it's scary because it's a fricking walking corpse.
These. Also want to add that I prefer zombies to be "spooky" rather than scary. Like in Night of the Living Dead, they're pale and catatonic, like ghosts. You never forget that they're the dead come back to life.
I had an idea for a zombie movie where the infection spreads very slowly, so it's a very, very gradual transformation from regular human to roving cannibal, which raises tons of ethical questions about when people need to be put down, or if they need to at all, since some can resist the urge for flesh for weeks after being bitten. I thought it was interesting but I couldn't really think of a scenario that didn't seem like some allegory for opiate addiction.
Honestly and allegory for opiate addiction would be an interesting twist for a zombie movie. You go to some parts of the world, you see heroin addicts who look like a Romero or Savini creation. Could be effective for people who have seen such things IRL. Dealing with zombies like that would be terrifying because they would be on the same level as a schiz'd out druggie breaking into your home to eat you and you children.
>Passion
homie, film making is an expensive investment. Nobody make film for passion, unless you wanna watch some shitty art house film made by a guy named anotionini el morono from poland
you can make any kind of movie you want if you're just trying to make money but you need a lot more than just hard currency if you want to make a good movie, and if you're not making a good movie then what's the point of getting out of bed then
all this fricking money everywhere and nothing to spend it on
the thing with vampires and werewolves is they can be reasoned with and understand what youre saying to them. Also have downtime in daylight.
Fear of zombies is a fear of something unexplainable or unknown, a dreading slow inevitable force that no matter what does not stop.
There was some flick I saw back in the day on the sci-fi channel about zombies in Africa. Think it was called The Dead? Kind of shitty but I enjoyed it.
stop making them a metaphor for general hardship and make them embody death again. the whole appeal is the metaphysical element that the dead won't stay dead and logic has shat itself. it's not scary because it's trying to kill you, it's scary because it's a fricking walking corpse.
I had a good idea for a zombie game
Just make it a city map maybe the size of Liberty city from GTA 4
But every building can be entered, you are one of the few remaining survivors in the city, the army announce they are going to napalm the city in X amount of hours, so you have to escape the city before then, but the city is just jam packed, so you have to escape, how you do it is up to you, try and get a car and blitz your way out, go into the sewers and sneak out, slowly and methodically take out sections to escape,
Be pretty cool
Also zombie films needs to stop making “humans as the real monsters”
Also stop having characters be morons, if they come across a horde of zombies, have one person go round a flank and start yelling to draw them away, easy as
>Also zombie films needs to stop making “humans as the real monsters”
It just smacks of the director wanting to look 'deep'. >Also stop having characters be morons,
Also this. Just make mistakes, ok. Make poor decisions based on panic, make you look stupid but believable. Using a moment of safety to start petty bullshit, frick off with that.
Why did the zombies in 28 Days Later in the church just wake up and stare at the guy?
I took it as they hadn't seen any uninfected in a few weeks they just sort of went into a form of hibernation. And took a few seconds for them to get reactivated.
The 'humans being the real monsters' is so common because there really isn't anywhere to go after the initial outbreak. Once the panic has died off, they have a barricade that is secure, they understand what they're dealing with and how to combat them, the zombie start to cease to be scary and much of a threat. But human nature will kick in and people will jockey for control and power, start to gang up to ensure their survival or betray others, especially if resources start to run low. So I get why most zombie media eventually goes this direction. If everyone just got along and worked together easily, it'd be more unrealistic than zombies
I think more of a political approach like the current walking dead where people are trying to figure out how to rebuild society would be awesome.
Walking Dead comics of the Commonwealth arc was fine, the TV show of Commonweatlh arc is complete shitter and just reduced to "lets just kill everyone" like always in Walking Dead.
Make that but better since it definitely makes sense in the earlydays of the apocalypse to share food among humans but then what happens after the injured can't work? Or some people can contribute more. Communism vs Capitalism. Free market vs licensing system.
* Also zombie films needs to stop making “humans as the real monsters" *
This. I would love to see film where humans work together and try to overcome the zombie apocalypse. Only conflict with humans would come from how to re-build society.
They have to be corpses rising from graves rather than people who just got sick from a virus. Preferably corpses who are wearing the kinds of attire that corpses are typically buried in.
stop making them a metaphor for general hardship and make them embody death again. the whole appeal is the metaphysical element that the dead won't stay dead and logic has shat itself. it's not scary because it's trying to kill you, it's scary because it's a fricking walking corpse.
is one of the kinoest sequences in a zombie film ever
The slow creeping inevitable death coming for you is what makes good zombie movies really good. You can board up a house, a mall, or a mine and they will always be there when you want to get out and the longer you stay the more there are. You can't just take a break to catch your breath ever, because they don't, they don't even need to breathe.
i'll try out day of the dead but older zombie movies simply fail to be scary. They're dated. If you don't agree that dawn of the dead 2004 is better than the original you're just not being honest. Og night of the living dead is alright. Here's the zombie kino list feel free to add to it. >dawn of the dead 2004 >28 days later >28 weeks later >rec (also quarantine even though they're LITERALLY the same movie, quarantine being the remake in english) >world war z
also the ones that give zombies personalities and make a big deal of it fricking SUCK. "hurr durr omg it's thinking it has thoughts" i do not care
>the first scene where chaos is breaking out and there's shots of crowds of people sprinting around in the streets and you can't tell which are zombies and which are just people because it isn't obvious to anyone (except the audience) why people are freaking out >that scene where they arrive at the korean airport and it's all foggy and zombies are sprinting through the mist to tackle soldiers >escaping zombies on bicycles >zombies on a plane
yeah the pg13 was kind of lame but it was still good. cgi was alright
It's okay, I liked it, too. I liked the zombie tsunami and the soundtrack was nice too. Actually a theme you remember. It was never gonna be as clever as the book but whatever.
Really, there needs to be a big budget remake of WWZ as a miniseries and closely following the book. There are so many stories in the book that it could easily have multi seasons.
>i'll try out day of the dead but older zombie movies simply fail to be scary.
They don't need to be scary. They are good enough as the excuse to have a post-apocalyptic scenario where you can enjoy the idea of not having to go to work and just find canned food in empty houses instead.
>dawn of the dead 2004
Agreed, Kino >28 days later
Boring section when they arrive at the military base >28 weeks later
Boring outside of the opening segment >rec
Kinda good but the sequels ruined it with their catholic latin speaking demon shit nobody finds scary except spics >world war z
Fun action movie but it's in no way scary. The zombies hoarding up a pile was just comedic and funny and removed all tension from the movie. Cool movie nonetheless though.
>Boring section when they arrive at the military base
i thought it was redeemed with the black zombie getting unchained and infecting everyone >Boring outside of the opening segment
i'll give you that i don't actually remember much outside of that but it was an outstanding opening >sequels ruined it
i'll never understand this. The first movie fricks hard. All that matters
If you unironically think 2004 Dawn is better than Romero Dawn, you need to get off this board. No, you know what, most people here are moronic, you stay, I'll go. Frick.
2004 tries to make the zombies scary, which isn't the point of these movies. At all.
>2004 tries to make the zombies scary, which isn't the point of these movies. At all.
well it was the point of that movie, dumbass. It's better for everyone that zombie movies never go in whatever gay direction you'd prefer. >you stay, I'll go
hallelujah
>If you don't agree that dawn of the dead 2004 is better than the original you're just not being honest.
It depends on what you want to get out of them, they're just very different movies. I wouldn't fault anyone for preferring one over the other, but it's a little cute to pretend that it's "dishonest" to prefer the original.
Dawn of the dead 2004 was the only good zombie movie and was brilliantly made in a way that zoomers will never appreciate.
Please keep in mind that when the movie came out Japanese horror movies like Ring and Grudge were still very big and the horror movie staple at the time.
The movie starts very small scale and we see a zombie girl like in Ring/Grudge as the first enemy afterwards the husband becomes a zombie as well but it's all contained to a house. It being contained to a single house makes it feel cramped like most horror movies of the time.
Then she escapes from the window and you finally see, for the first time that it's everywhere, everything is fricked. This was such a mindblowing moment in 2004 that it's hard to explain. It single-handedly ushered in the zombie hype right then and there. Everyone became obsessed with apocalypses and "how would you survive a zombie scenario" type of content. Before the movie apocalypses were rare. After Dawn of the Dead it became the standard to have movies about it.
In retrospect people point at 28 days later "being the first". But it wasn't as culturally influential at all and can even be ignored from an impact perspective. The entire point of Dawn of the Dead where you actually get to see the fall happen in real time is what made it so good and why that opening shot of her leaving the house and driving on the highway while the entire city is fricked is engrained into our cultural zeitgeist now.
Dawn of the Dead (2004) might even be the most influential horror movie of all times due to this.
What made Romero zombies scary weren't the zombies themselves. I mean, they were scary if you got cornered, then you were truly fricked.
But in the larger sense what Romero actually nailed in Dawn and Day was the existential aspect. Society is gone. The characters in those movies try to cling on to it, surrounded by these horrifying abominations, reminders of what was lost and can never be reclaimed.
The black pilot guy from Day had it right, they should have gotten on the chopper, found an island, and just gone back to tribal roots. Enjoy the land, frick, make babies, try to rebuild as best they can.
How about a film of real zombies, meaning people incapable of dying and subservient to a vodoo shamans' will? I'm sick and tired of doomsday viruses. Also, remove the whole "if It bites you you become one of them" shtick
>Is Kingdom any good?
It's very good. I loved every minute of it. The tension and action just keeps ramping up episode to episode. There is a lot of tension and the period aspects are nicely done. American shows suck at that, but Korean ones excel. The follow-up movie isn't good, it's filled with nonsensical plot contrivances. There is however an earlier movie called Rampant that is basically the same premise as Kingdom.
Cant make zombies scary but they dont have to be. I love Day and Dawn, they are so comfy because they arent really that scary. They are the best films.
Make all the zombies black and the heroes white as an allegory for the BLM riots, although this would never happen. The closest we would get is the exact opposite directed by Jordan Peele.
Make the zombie virus an STD so the zombies are rotting corpses trying to rape people rather than bite them. That would also never get made unless it's just an independent exploitation flick.
Go back to the roots and make the zombies under the control of a voodoo shaman, but they're still living people who are basically sleepwalking, so it's morally ambiguous if they should be killed. Another twist on this is to make the "zombies" hypnotized or indoctrinated kids and teenagers who are trying to kill their own parents for not supporting their beliefs.
Make something in the style of those 80's-era Italian cannibal movies, but based on true historical events of cannibalism rather than some cliché ooga-boogas in the jungle. I think it may be more unsettling if the cannibals are not distinguishable racially from their victims. Just read this wiki article and tell me this isn't some of the most horrifying shit that deserves a movie:
>There was one landowner called Liu Zhengjian whose entire family was wiped out. He had a 17-year-old daughter, Liu Xiulan, who was gang-raped by nine people [for 19 times] who then ripped open her belly, and ate her liver and breasts. There were so many incidents like this.
>Make the zombie virus an STD so the zombies are rotting corpses trying to rape people rather than bite them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivers_(1975_film)
almost
classic zombie spotting someone >slowly turns, whole body rotating stiffly >emotionlessly walks towards them >quietly approaches from behind
nu-zombie spotting someone >head snaps around >HRAAGHGHHHHHHHHH >waves arms around and makes as much noise as possible >impossible to miss >somehow gets them anyway
>episode 1 on any zombie TV show >one zombie is a massive threat, the plot of an entire episode is someone (or a group) figuring out how to deal with it >Season 7, episode 23 of the same show >Little Timmy's slingshot goes straight through three zombies' skulls at once, they're a non issue except when the plot demands them to be >people become the real monsters
Fricking sick of it
Bring back actual zombies and get rid of this "infected" shit every show has.
I get that functionally zombies and infected can be the exact same thing, but usually it's just "very angry humans yelling at people and pounding at doors: the show". It's so samey.
Bring back walking corpses, not just crazy people with bloodshot eyes.
>Bring back walking corpses, not just crazy people with bloodshot eyes.
Crazy people with bloodshot eyes are a lot cheaper though. Essentially they're the low-budget lazy version of zombies.
trapped in a basement with a zombie, singular. its one of those bullshit endurance zombies where it might be magic, we dont know. its dark and the zombie is slow. takes an eternity to even bash its head in. gotta do shit like hide in the closet while the zombie bangs on the door to get sleep. when you actually do kill it, the guys that locked you in the basement just toss a fresh zombie out. sometimes its fricked up like a kid zombie.
if you make the zombies too op they stop being classic zombies
what you need to do is handicap the humans
make the main character paraplegic from the beginning so he can only move using a wheelchair. or make him have alzheimers or something.
That zombie in the walking dead whose face came off with the gas mask he was wearing was such a kino moment. Zombies are scary because they are repulsive and imply a degeneration in the natural law.
>How do we make zombies scary again?
Make it about the people involved. A perfect film would be about a bunch of hippy Democrats trying to hunker down with a bunch of gun-toting Republicans. The Democrats would wind up fricking things up, and the Republicans would have to come to the rescue. It would never get made though.
I agree with Romero, Day of the Dead is my favorite of his films too.
>A perfect film would be about a bunch of hippy Democrats trying to hunker down with a bunch of gun-toting Republicans. The Democrats would wind up fricking things up, and the Republicans would have to come to the rescue.
It would be scarier if the Democrats frick things up and get the Republicans killed, which in turn renders the Democrats defenseless since the Republicans actually knew how to use firearms.
>Make a classic zombie movies where they eat brains. >Have it set in a town with a 50/50 split gun toting republicans and hipster democrats. >Show how the republicans use the guns to easily take out the horde of zombies while the hipster democrats succumb to them >Include dialogue from the republicans how the democrats died because of their lack of guns and balls The plot twist at the end should be that the zombies don't attack republicans due to their lack of brain matter
I would make the scale of the zombie film smaller to start with. Once you see a huge crowd of them, they become less scary. Showing them in the light of day, etc.
I would make the film take place in one or two locations, like the original Night of the Living Dead. Make it so we spend a lot of time intimately getting to know these characters instead of having action scenes take up all the screen time. Make the zombies slow but strong. Make any deaths meaningful and don't put too much blood on screen. Leave much of it up to the imagination of the audience, because they'll be able to easily put themselves in the shoes of the characters. Before you know it, they'll be freaking out because of all the scenarios their own brain is creating, not just because of the film itself.
Horror should have some subtlety, it's planting a seed that is grown just before bedtime. Large scale, action-horror flicks are fine, but they aren't truly scary.
The psychological element of zombie films was always the most interesting and potentially horrific, Day of the Dead is a good example. It's bleak because it's scientists and military guys isolated in an underground facility and gradually turning on each other over time.
make them fast, also they can fly...
oh! and also suck blood
noticed the usual guy who posts this video in every day of the dead thread has missed the last couple, so Im taking up the mantle
Oh shit that's awesome
something like a Crossed adaptation is the only way
those aren't zombies.
they're scarier.
>how do we make zombies scarry
Gee, i fricking dont know. Maybe atleast try to make it so that you cant just whack one with something, split it open, get blood allover yourself, and then be like "oh, its fine i got blood and guts and whatever shit allover me, it did not bite me, so im fine". Should be so that even getting near (like 1 meter) can potentially cause infection. And im not even talking about contamination of water, soil, fomites, potential vectors and other things.
Zombie by itself is not scary. What is scarry is starving to death because of them, lack of the very basic means of survival. Water is undrinkable and boiling/treating it is 50/50 chance of it being just barely good enough to drink without infection, cant grown anything in contaminated soil, cant eat even cooked meat because animals might carry the infection.
if that - just bare survival - is not enough, give them some mutations. Ones that vomit and spread putrescent liquid or if hit can just burst a volume of putrescence out all around (if infected had some bowel/gastrointestinal conditions or diabetes or whatever). Some spread miasma (volatile gases, aerosoles). Stuff like that. Chalk it all up to be sciency and make sense (sound logic behind it).
Thats it.
They are psychopaths on cocaine OD.
I always wanted a good Crossed adaption but I think it would still be hard to make a movie showing them as truly degenerate and disturbing properly
There's a taiwanese movie, "the sadness" it's probably the closest we're gonna get
This is just The Sadness right? It wasn't very scary
I think only fast zombies can be scary, 28 days is probably the scariest to me
You need a very confined space to make zombies scary. They're scary the same way a home intruder is scary, it's a very basic fear of intrusion at all times, constant alert, no rest.
But now it might be too late, it might be impossible. We collectively see them as bullet sponges now, nothing else.
We associate zombies with action, not with claustrophobia.
This 100%, and don't fall into the Walking Dead shit where zombies just show up 5 meters behind them on a big open field and nobody noticed beforehand.
Perfectly summarized. That's why Night of the living dead worked so well. Its cramped and uncomfortable and they aren't in your face 24/7.
These. Also want to add that I prefer zombies to be "spooky" rather than scary. Like in Night of the Living Dead, they're pale and catatonic, like ghosts. You never forget that they're the dead come back to life.
sauce?
Original Dawn of The Dead
the scary part about zombies is THERE FOOD?
I can't think of the last time a zombie film/tv series actually showed someones brain being eaten
The brain thing was really only from Return of the Living Dead.
they need a break, I was tired of zombies by rdr undead nightmare and they still make zombie shit
I had an idea for a zombie movie where the infection spreads very slowly, so it's a very, very gradual transformation from regular human to roving cannibal, which raises tons of ethical questions about when people need to be put down, or if they need to at all, since some can resist the urge for flesh for weeks after being bitten. I thought it was interesting but I couldn't really think of a scenario that didn't seem like some allegory for opiate addiction.
Pitch this to Leonardo DiCaprio.
Honestly and allegory for opiate addiction would be an interesting twist for a zombie movie. You go to some parts of the world, you see heroin addicts who look like a Romero or Savini creation. Could be effective for people who have seen such things IRL. Dealing with zombies like that would be terrifying because they would be on the same level as a schiz'd out druggie breaking into your home to eat you and you children.
already been made look up contracted
by making movies out of passion rather than financial gain again
so never
>Passion
homie, film making is an expensive investment. Nobody make film for passion, unless you wanna watch some shitty art house film made by a guy named anotionini el morono from poland
you can make any kind of movie you want if you're just trying to make money but you need a lot more than just hard currency if you want to make a good movie, and if you're not making a good movie then what's the point of getting out of bed then
all this fricking money everywhere and nothing to spend it on
>all this fricking money everywhere and nothing to spend it on
This. Way of the world, anon.
The unrelenting hopelessness of Day was what made the movie for me, the zombies were scary in an inevitable way
Superb film.
All I wanted was for them to get in the helicopter and go be safe on an island somewhere.
Slow them down and have them jobbing for the first hour until he cast are trapped and picked off.
Use tension and not jump scares.
Vampires and werewolves are both cooler. I wish there were more werewolf movies instead of zombie ones.
the thing with vampires and werewolves is they can be reasoned with and understand what youre saying to them. Also have downtime in daylight.
Fear of zombies is a fear of something unexplainable or unknown, a dreading slow inevitable force that no matter what does not stop.
based in africa
the zombies are african villagers but their brains are being eaten by parasites
So RE5
There was some flick I saw back in the day on the sci-fi channel about zombies in Africa. Think it was called The Dead? Kind of shitty but I enjoyed it.
Tension, make them slow but plentiful. That's the baseline. Otherwise you just have some action thriller
Make them supernatural, give them powers. Otherwise a bunch of slow walking corpses pose no threat
stop making them a metaphor for general hardship and make them embody death again. the whole appeal is the metaphysical element that the dead won't stay dead and logic has shat itself. it's not scary because it's trying to kill you, it's scary because it's a fricking walking corpse.
Walking Dead has good bits, but it also shits itself mighty hard just to move plot or for plot points.
Why do they need to be scary when they can just be cool?
Zombie get ipad
I had a good idea for a zombie game
Just make it a city map maybe the size of Liberty city from GTA 4
But every building can be entered, you are one of the few remaining survivors in the city, the army announce they are going to napalm the city in X amount of hours, so you have to escape the city before then, but the city is just jam packed, so you have to escape, how you do it is up to you, try and get a car and blitz your way out, go into the sewers and sneak out, slowly and methodically take out sections to escape,
Be pretty cool
Also zombie films needs to stop making “humans as the real monsters”
Also stop having characters be morons, if they come across a horde of zombies, have one person go round a flank and start yelling to draw them away, easy as
That's just Dead Rising but it sounds more boring.
>Also zombie films needs to stop making “humans as the real monsters”
It just smacks of the director wanting to look 'deep'.
>Also stop having characters be morons,
Also this. Just make mistakes, ok. Make poor decisions based on panic, make you look stupid but believable. Using a moment of safety to start petty bullshit, frick off with that.
I took it as they hadn't seen any uninfected in a few weeks they just sort of went into a form of hibernation. And took a few seconds for them to get reactivated.
The 'humans being the real monsters' is so common because there really isn't anywhere to go after the initial outbreak. Once the panic has died off, they have a barricade that is secure, they understand what they're dealing with and how to combat them, the zombie start to cease to be scary and much of a threat. But human nature will kick in and people will jockey for control and power, start to gang up to ensure their survival or betray others, especially if resources start to run low. So I get why most zombie media eventually goes this direction. If everyone just got along and worked together easily, it'd be more unrealistic than zombies
I think more of a political approach like the current walking dead where people are trying to figure out how to rebuild society would be awesome.
Walking Dead comics of the Commonwealth arc was fine, the TV show of Commonweatlh arc is complete shitter and just reduced to "lets just kill everyone" like always in Walking Dead.
Make that but better since it definitely makes sense in the earlydays of the apocalypse to share food among humans but then what happens after the injured can't work? Or some people can contribute more. Communism vs Capitalism. Free market vs licensing system.
>If everyone just got along and worked together easily, it'd be more unrealistic
Its far more realistic than you think.
* Also zombie films needs to stop making “humans as the real monsters" *
This. I would love to see film where humans work together and try to overcome the zombie apocalypse. Only conflict with humans would come from how to re-build society.
Stop trying to make the premise realistic
Zombies were scarier when they were incarnations of evil, not a virus gone wrong
>Day has had two remakes and both are legitimately some of the worst movies ever made
Wooww
Yup, the 2008 is enjoyable tho just for fun.
Why did the zombies in 28 Days Later in the church just wake up and stare at the guy?
Because that movie sucks
They we're starving and woke up at the smell of fresh meat
Ok but why do they just stand there and stare if they wanna eat him?
They literally start chasing him
Cuz it was spooky, they don't stare for very long tho
They were never scary, anon.
They are just degenerated "horror" schlock fobbed off as a genre, when at best, it's just trash.
Fast, slow...boring.
Fake, realistic...boring.
They have to be corpses rising from graves rather than people who just got sick from a virus. Preferably corpses who are wearing the kinds of attire that corpses are typically buried in.
This, which is why this
is one of the kinoest sequences in a zombie film ever
When a zombie is your friend who just died five minutes ago, it's way too familiar to be scary.
>scary again
They never were.
The slow creeping inevitable death coming for you is what makes good zombie movies really good. You can board up a house, a mall, or a mine and they will always be there when you want to get out and the longer you stay the more there are. You can't just take a break to catch your breath ever, because they don't, they don't even need to breathe.
I liked warm bodies and izombie. I thought they were cute
>weapons
>organisation
>but still slow enough to make your death agonizing
sauce?
i'll try out day of the dead but older zombie movies simply fail to be scary. They're dated. If you don't agree that dawn of the dead 2004 is better than the original you're just not being honest. Og night of the living dead is alright. Here's the zombie kino list feel free to add to it.
>dawn of the dead 2004
>28 days later
>28 weeks later
>rec (also quarantine even though they're LITERALLY the same movie, quarantine being the remake in english)
>world war z
also the ones that give zombies personalities and make a big deal of it fricking SUCK. "hurr durr omg it's thinking it has thoughts" i do not care
war z
Take your meds, shizo.
>the first scene where chaos is breaking out and there's shots of crowds of people sprinting around in the streets and you can't tell which are zombies and which are just people because it isn't obvious to anyone (except the audience) why people are freaking out
>that scene where they arrive at the korean airport and it's all foggy and zombies are sprinting through the mist to tackle soldiers
>escaping zombies on bicycles
>zombies on a plane
yeah the pg13 was kind of lame but it was still good. cgi was alright
>PG-13 zombie movie
Yeah, how about no. Just go frick yourself
>NOOOOO I NEED LE HECKIN GORERINOS I NEED LE EPIC R RATING AO I HAVE AN EXCUSE NOT TO RBING MY WIFES SON WHEN I GO SEE IT
It's okay, I liked it, too. I liked the zombie tsunami and the soundtrack was nice too. Actually a theme you remember. It was never gonna be as clever as the book but whatever.
Really, there needs to be a big budget remake of WWZ as a miniseries and closely following the book. There are so many stories in the book that it could easily have multi seasons.
The battle of yonkers could be so, so good if done faithfully to the book. Would probably have to be all cgi though
>i'll try out day of the dead but older zombie movies simply fail to be scary.
They don't need to be scary. They are good enough as the excuse to have a post-apocalyptic scenario where you can enjoy the idea of not having to go to work and just find canned food in empty houses instead.
Based. Dawn and Dead are very comfy
>dawn of the dead 2004
Agreed, Kino
>28 days later
Boring section when they arrive at the military base
>28 weeks later
Boring outside of the opening segment
>rec
Kinda good but the sequels ruined it with their catholic latin speaking demon shit nobody finds scary except spics
>world war z
Fun action movie but it's in no way scary. The zombies hoarding up a pile was just comedic and funny and removed all tension from the movie. Cool movie nonetheless though.
>Boring section when they arrive at the military base
i thought it was redeemed with the black zombie getting unchained and infecting everyone
>Boring outside of the opening segment
i'll give you that i don't actually remember much outside of that but it was an outstanding opening
>sequels ruined it
i'll never understand this. The first movie fricks hard. All that matters
If you unironically think 2004 Dawn is better than Romero Dawn, you need to get off this board. No, you know what, most people here are moronic, you stay, I'll go. Frick.
2004 tries to make the zombies scary, which isn't the point of these movies. At all.
>2004 tries to make the zombies scary, which isn't the point of these movies. At all.
well it was the point of that movie, dumbass. It's better for everyone that zombie movies never go in whatever gay direction you'd prefer.
>you stay, I'll go
hallelujah
i'm gonna add the first two resident evil movies
>If you don't agree that dawn of the dead 2004 is better than the original you're just not being honest.
It depends on what you want to get out of them, they're just very different movies. I wouldn't fault anyone for preferring one over the other, but it's a little cute to pretend that it's "dishonest" to prefer the original.
>fail to be scary
you have to be 18 to post here. no film should be scary by that age.
Only Resident Evil games depicted zombies as truly scary. The movies always had some element of humor to them especially the Romero ones.
people actually fricking die?
Dawn of the dead 2004 was the only good zombie movie and was brilliantly made in a way that zoomers will never appreciate.
Please keep in mind that when the movie came out Japanese horror movies like Ring and Grudge were still very big and the horror movie staple at the time.
The movie starts very small scale and we see a zombie girl like in Ring/Grudge as the first enemy afterwards the husband becomes a zombie as well but it's all contained to a house. It being contained to a single house makes it feel cramped like most horror movies of the time.
Then she escapes from the window and you finally see, for the first time that it's everywhere, everything is fricked. This was such a mindblowing moment in 2004 that it's hard to explain. It single-handedly ushered in the zombie hype right then and there. Everyone became obsessed with apocalypses and "how would you survive a zombie scenario" type of content. Before the movie apocalypses were rare. After Dawn of the Dead it became the standard to have movies about it.
In retrospect people point at 28 days later "being the first". But it wasn't as culturally influential at all and can even be ignored from an impact perspective. The entire point of Dawn of the Dead where you actually get to see the fall happen in real time is what made it so good and why that opening shot of her leaving the house and driving on the highway while the entire city is fricked is engrained into our cultural zeitgeist now.
Dawn of the Dead (2004) might even be the most influential horror movie of all times due to this.
based. And the zombies were actually fricking terrifying.
>Dawn of the Dead (2004) might even be the most influential horror movie of all times due to this.
This is what Sneederdrones actually believe.
Maybe he's not right about "all time" but it's gotta be the most influential horror film of the last 20 years.
What made Romero zombies scary weren't the zombies themselves. I mean, they were scary if you got cornered, then you were truly fricked.
But in the larger sense what Romero actually nailed in Dawn and Day was the existential aspect. Society is gone. The characters in those movies try to cling on to it, surrounded by these horrifying abominations, reminders of what was lost and can never be reclaimed.
The black pilot guy from Day had it right, they should have gotten on the chopper, found an island, and just gone back to tribal roots. Enjoy the land, frick, make babies, try to rebuild as best they can.
How about a film of real zombies, meaning people incapable of dying and subservient to a vodoo shamans' will? I'm sick and tired of doomsday viruses. Also, remove the whole "if It bites you you become one of them" shtick
by making them a serious threat
damn she didn't even blink
Checked. That movie was fricking nuts.
A sword and sorcery movie about a party that attacks a necromancer fortress full of zombie minions mind controlled by him.
Sealed inside a dungeon, no daylight
based
sounds kino
Is Kingdom any good?
>Is Kingdom any good?
It's very good. I loved every minute of it. The tension and action just keeps ramping up episode to episode. There is a lot of tension and the period aspects are nicely done. American shows suck at that, but Korean ones excel. The follow-up movie isn't good, it's filled with nonsensical plot contrivances. There is however an earlier movie called Rampant that is basically the same premise as Kingdom.
Cant make zombies scary but they dont have to be. I love Day and Dawn, they are so comfy because they arent really that scary. They are the best films.
Make all the zombies black and the heroes white as an allegory for the BLM riots, although this would never happen. The closest we would get is the exact opposite directed by Jordan Peele.
Make the zombie virus an STD so the zombies are rotting corpses trying to rape people rather than bite them. That would also never get made unless it's just an independent exploitation flick.
Go back to the roots and make the zombies under the control of a voodoo shaman, but they're still living people who are basically sleepwalking, so it's morally ambiguous if they should be killed. Another twist on this is to make the "zombies" hypnotized or indoctrinated kids and teenagers who are trying to kill their own parents for not supporting their beliefs.
Make something in the style of those 80's-era Italian cannibal movies, but based on true historical events of cannibalism rather than some cliché ooga-boogas in the jungle. I think it may be more unsettling if the cannibals are not distinguishable racially from their victims. Just read this wiki article and tell me this isn't some of the most horrifying shit that deserves a movie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre
Good post.
>In certain areas including Wuxuan County and Wuming District, massive human cannibalism occurred even though no famine existed.
Chinese people will eat literally anything.
>There was one landowner called Liu Zhengjian whose entire family was wiped out. He had a 17-year-old daughter, Liu Xiulan, who was gang-raped by nine people [for 19 times] who then ripped open her belly, and ate her liver and breasts. There were so many incidents like this.
>Make the zombie virus an STD so the zombies are rotting corpses trying to rape people rather than bite them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivers_(1975_film)
almost
coomer zombies? based.
Bring back moaning. Hissing zombies are cringe
classic zombie spotting someone
>slowly turns, whole body rotating stiffly
>emotionlessly walks towards them
>quietly approaches from behind
nu-zombie spotting someone
>head snaps around
>HRAAGHGHHHHHHHHH
>waves arms around and makes as much noise as possible
>impossible to miss
>somehow gets them anyway
>episode 1 on any zombie TV show
>one zombie is a massive threat, the plot of an entire episode is someone (or a group) figuring out how to deal with it
>Season 7, episode 23 of the same show
>Little Timmy's slingshot goes straight through three zombies' skulls at once, they're a non issue except when the plot demands them to be
>people become the real monsters
Fricking sick of it
become the real monsters
that's pretty much every zombie movie and show since the beginning
But does it have to be? I'm so tired
Bring back actual zombies and get rid of this "infected" shit every show has.
I get that functionally zombies and infected can be the exact same thing, but usually it's just "very angry humans yelling at people and pounding at doors: the show". It's so samey.
Bring back walking corpses, not just crazy people with bloodshot eyes.
>Bring back walking corpses, not just crazy people with bloodshot eyes.
Crazy people with bloodshot eyes are a lot cheaper though. Essentially they're the low-budget lazy version of zombies.
trapped in a basement with a zombie, singular. its one of those bullshit endurance zombies where it might be magic, we dont know. its dark and the zombie is slow. takes an eternity to even bash its head in. gotta do shit like hide in the closet while the zombie bangs on the door to get sleep. when you actually do kill it, the guys that locked you in the basement just toss a fresh zombie out. sometimes its fricked up like a kid zombie.
if you make the zombies too op they stop being classic zombies
what you need to do is handicap the humans
make the main character paraplegic from the beginning so he can only move using a wheelchair. or make him have alzheimers or something.
That zombie in the walking dead whose face came off with the gas mask he was wearing was such a kino moment. Zombies are scary because they are repulsive and imply a degeneration in the natural law.
>How do we make zombies scary again?
Make it about the people involved. A perfect film would be about a bunch of hippy Democrats trying to hunker down with a bunch of gun-toting Republicans. The Democrats would wind up fricking things up, and the Republicans would have to come to the rescue. It would never get made though.
I agree with Romero, Day of the Dead is my favorite of his films too.
Why do you need to bait people and try to ruin threads at every opportunity?
>A perfect film would be about a bunch of hippy Democrats trying to hunker down with a bunch of gun-toting Republicans. The Democrats would wind up fricking things up, and the Republicans would have to come to the rescue.
It would be scarier if the Democrats frick things up and get the Republicans killed, which in turn renders the Democrats defenseless since the Republicans actually knew how to use firearms.
>Make a classic zombie movies where they eat brains.
>Have it set in a town with a 50/50 split gun toting republicans and hipster democrats.
>Show how the republicans use the guns to easily take out the horde of zombies while the hipster democrats succumb to them
>Include dialogue from the republicans how the democrats died because of their lack of guns and balls
The plot twist at the end should be that the zombies don't attack republicans due to their lack of brain matter
I would make the scale of the zombie film smaller to start with. Once you see a huge crowd of them, they become less scary. Showing them in the light of day, etc.
I would make the film take place in one or two locations, like the original Night of the Living Dead. Make it so we spend a lot of time intimately getting to know these characters instead of having action scenes take up all the screen time. Make the zombies slow but strong. Make any deaths meaningful and don't put too much blood on screen. Leave much of it up to the imagination of the audience, because they'll be able to easily put themselves in the shoes of the characters. Before you know it, they'll be freaking out because of all the scenarios their own brain is creating, not just because of the film itself.
Horror should have some subtlety, it's planting a seed that is grown just before bedtime. Large scale, action-horror flicks are fine, but they aren't truly scary.
The psychological element of zombie films was always the most interesting and potentially horrific, Day of the Dead is a good example. It's bleak because it's scientists and military guys isolated in an underground facility and gradually turning on each other over time.
Watch Black Summer.
Best zombie shit in 10+ years.
This.
Everyone reading this needs to watch both seasons. It's expertly made.
We were all watching that back in 2020 dude.
There's a new season bro
Oh shit another drug dealer got shot by the cops? I guess it is an election year.
So which version of the original Dawn of the Dead is actually the best? The US version or the Argento cut?
>that scream
You know the one