How do you feel about auteurs coming along and taking existing source material and adapting it so loosely and so uniquely that they completely sabotage the chance of the material ever getting a successful faithful adaptation?
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In a way it’s pure fricking vision- making reality bend to your cinematic idea.
Have these films ever gotten a video game adaptation? Is the cycle complete?
Wesker getting superpowers was more or less borrowed from the movie
other way around
the whole Wesker throwing the glasses and teleporting around was directly taken from RE5, which came out 1 year before Afterlife.
But Wesker's zombie powers are plagiarized from Alice
But didn't he have zombie powers in RE:Code Veronica, which came out 2 years before the first movie, or am I misremembering him having glowie eyes there?
It's complicated. Back when Code Veronica was made the idea behind Resident Evil was basically x-men. Characters with superpowers fighting over the future of humanity. The movies took this idea and ran with it, but the games got sidetracked with RE4 soft rebooting the story. The games are finally circling back to this.
You know Heisenberg has telekinetic powers? That's a reference to Alice. His factory is a reference to the cloning facility in RE Retribution, with the people on hooks on conveyor belts. Ethan's daughter Rose is basically RE: Apocalypse-era Alice in terms of superpowers.
The Resident Evil films are inspired by the state of RE at the time of Code Veronica, but they also pull in a myriad of other influences including Beneath the Planet of the Apes, with the psychic mutants.
Wesker got super powers in Code Veronica X which came out in 2001
>Back when Code Veronica was made the idea behind Resident Evil was basically x-men. Characters with superpowers fighting over the future of humanity. The movies took this idea and ran with it
The hell are you talking about? Wesker had super powers because he was a fan favorite and they wanted to bring him back to life after he died in 1 and made something up about how he injected himself with a special virus sample. Everyone else is just a normal person, a cop or a cop's sibling, trying to expose the crimes of the corporation that leaked the virus.
>ALEXIA?!!
GREETINGS
>The hell are you talking about?
The original plotline for Resident Evil 4 focused on an underground civilization of superhumans. There are remnants of this in the final game.
>Everyone else is just a normal person, a cop or a cop's sibling, trying to expose the crimes of the corporation that leaked the virus.
No, because Jill was already superhuman at that point. The whole idea was that these characters were mutants, like in X-Men. And Wesker was a mutant supremacist. Like Magneto.
What do you think the modern RE games are about? The superhuman Jake, Sherry, Ethan, Jill, and Ethan's daughter Rose. These are the "good" mutants fighting back against the bad mutants like Wesker, who is still alive, BTW.
Probably some cross-pollination between Capcom projects is to blame too. When they saw how much people like the superhuman slow mo wacky action in Devil May Cry they found a way to put it into Resident Evil except it's caused by bioweapons instead of demons.
>The original plotline for Resident Evil 4 focused on an underground civilization of superhumans.
The original beta build of RE4 involved Leon, still a normal human, being infected with something and having hallucinations while being chased by a man with a hook. Where's this superhero thing coming from?
>No, because Jill was already superhuman at that point. The whole idea was that these characters were mutants, like in X-Men. And Wesker was a mutant supremacist. Like Magneto.
... What the frick are you talking about? What part of Resident Evil 3 has Jill as a mutant super hero?
>Where's this superhero thing coming from?
From all the assets they reused for the underground section. There was an ancient civilization of superhumans. You see the ancient city during the mine cart section. This is what RE4 was originally about. Remember that the Mikami version of RE4 had a total rewrite midway through development done in about a week. But this idea of superhumans being central to RE comes up again and again. It's where all this stuff with Ethan being an immortal mold monster who can survive having his heart torn out comes from.
>What part of Resident Evil 3 has Jill as a mutant super hero?
She's immune/resistant to the t-virus in the first game, and the remake triples down on this. The level of strength she displays is greater than even Alice at the max point of her powers. Jill is not human. It's a joke that people in the RE fanbase actually think she's a normal human being.
>From all the assets they reused for the underground section. There was an ancient civilization of superhumans. You see the ancient city during the mine cart section. This is what RE4 was originally about.
I'll need a source on that, but even then this is not at the time Code Veronica was made
>this idea of superhumans being central to RE comes up again and again. It's where all this stuff with Ethan being an immortal mold monster who can survive having his heart torn out comes from.
With the newest games, sure, but those are so barely to do with the original series that it wouldn't make sense to look at the old games through this lens. Everything about them is entirely distinct from the earlier games.
>She's immune/resistant to the t-virus in the first game, and the remake triples down on this. The level of strength she displays is greater than even Alice at the max point of her powers.
If you mean she's the protagonist of the game and therefore doesn't get killed as part of the story... then every game (and movie for that matter) is about super heroes. What the frick? In RE1 she can get bitten by a snake and will die if you don't play as another character and get her the antidote. The same thing happens in RE3 where Nemesis infects her with his tentacle and you have to go to the hospital as Carlos and get her an anti-virus while she's laying comatose in the church. They're just normal people. It's much later in the series that they threw it all out the window and started making everything supernatural
>If you mean she's the protagonist of the game and therefore doesn't get killed as part of the story...
No, I mean she is resistant to the t-virus. It's an explicit plot point in the original RE3, and is further touched on the remake where Nicholai touches on it in his notes. She is infected by Nemesis and is still unmutated several hours after she should have turned into a zombie. That's where they got the idea of Alice being injected with the t-virus and surviving came from. All these idea Resident Evil is doing now were ideas they had back around Code Veronica.
Where does it make a point that she's resistant to the T-virus at all, even to the point where you'd describe it as a mutant super power? She didn't turn into a zombie because she got the anti-virus from the hospital, and she needed Carlos to get it because she was laying down dying from it in the meantime
>Where does it make a point that she's resistant to the T-virus at all
When she survives over 17 hours after infection.
That's you making a point of it, not the game. In the game it just happens, and it doesn't specify how long she's out for.
The remake came out in the year 2020, brother. The original is from 1999. How does this factor into your theory about X-men and the movie series?
>The original is from 1999.
And that plot point is in the original, too.
Where?
Actually, Jill survives for 21 hours before receiving the anti-virals. There is a journal entry from Nicholai:
>Unfinished Activity Log - "Over 17 hours have elapsed since JV's exposure to virus. Conversion has been slow, suggesting she may be resistant."
>Unfinished Activity Log - "Vaccine recovered and administered to JV by CO, a soldier in MV Platoon. JV expected to be fit for combat approx. 20 hrs post-exposure. It seems clear the bioweapon is Project N. Contact with JV causes it to change and evolve. Will induce further encounters to obtain more precise data."
Capcom retroactively rewrote Jill into Alice-lite. She even has the same "staring at herself in the mirror" motif, and she's super strong. In the RE3 Remake, Jill fires a railgun with her bare hands and it shatters the floor under her feet. However, Capcom don't own the rights to the movies, so they can't use anything 1:1.
They hand wave that with her having been infected with T.
Alice originated as a legally distinct copy of Jill. The idea of Alice being immune to the t-virus firstly came from the film Warning Sign, which the first RE movie is a remake of. But it was also inspired by RE3 where Jill is unusually resistant to the t-virus. One of the reasons Jill is a foul-mouthed smoker in the movies is that this makes the fact she's the same character as Alice less obvious. Capcom, who don't own Alice, have retroactively changed Jill to be more Alice-like over the years. Modern Jill is like a mixture of movie Jill and Alice. I'm not criticizing this choice, btw. It's just noteworthy.
Was just explaining the lore reason she's so stronk (and still so young in the recent cg movie)
Fair enough, but I'm just noting that it's convergent evolution and overlap. I saw the CG movie Death Island, and Jill was wall running like Alice in RE: Afterlife.
The laser grid from the first movie was so iconic it was put into RE4 and I think some of the other games.
Maybe the desert setting of resident evil extinction influenced capcom to set RE5 in Africa? Plus elevating the stakes to "total global saturation" when before the games were always about small local outbreaks.
Modern Resident Evil has a revolving door of "We have Alice at home" characters.
Jake from RE6? He's Alice. His entire plotline about being immune to the virus and they want his blood is from the RE films. The white white room motif dates back to the original RE film's screenplay. (A bunch of scenes from later movies are in the first movie's script.)
Sherry? A young woman who can heal from immense injuries? She's Alice. They're not even hiding it.
After Jake fights the stalker monster in a homage to Alice fighting Nemesis in RE Apocalypse the two characters escape down a tunnel with an explosion behind them in a homage to Alien vs Predator.
In RE4 Remake, Ada -- who has become more Alice-like over time -- is wearing a version of the contact lens Alicia Marcus wore in the films.
The entire SHAPE of Resident Evil as a franchise has been informed by the movies. The RE remakes feature the NEST underneath Raccoon. They call it the NEST because the HIVE belongs to the movies.
I only played the RE6 demo, thanks for explaining.
Really funny how Paul Anderson influenced TWO major game franchises with Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil.
I'm a huge RE fan, webm ironically.
holy fricking cuts
If a zombie outbreak happened, I would team up with Jill.
the first movie is so cash the momentum takes you throughout the rest
What was Jill doing while in heels before she turned on the police radio?
Undercover as a prostitute. They couldn't say that part out loud because Capcom are very protective and controlling with their characters. It's like how the only reason Carlos is able to smoke weed in RE: Extinction is that Capcom didn't recognize what "the special" was.
There was a scene I the script that was cut where a zombie pulled her top down
Maybe she was doing undercover work as a prostitute?
>we're gonna need more ammo
Yes.
She was in my bedroom
Sex
>The "I'm fricking the director" Film Series
The second and third movies were directed by other people, Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi-style.
Oh, then I guess Mila isn't a prostitute then. Phew!
Resignation and ennui.
I think the entire worthless hack nepotism family of Paul, Milla, and Ever should all be put into a single cage and lowered into a swimming pool until they all expire from drowning
I've never seen a coherent nepotism argument for Resident Evil. I think it's just jealousy that they rewrote Jovovich's character into Alice (she was Jill originally), and then brought said lead character back for 5 sequels.
Also, Ever Anderson has been in a SINGLE Paul W.S. Anderson film. She wasn't in any other RE movie, and she wasn't in Monster Hunter, and she's not in In the Lost Lands.
I hope that SWIM (someone who isnt me) corrals a manson family-style group into KWABing you and your entire family Paul
Reminder that RE: Apocalypse is a mess of a film that only really exists because the studio wouldn't allow the first movie to end with the post-apocalypse. Anderson was very busy and minimally involved with Apocalypse besides writing the original screenplay, and it shows in the final product. Jovovich hated the movie. Almost made her quit the franchise. She disliked the director, disliked the script, disliked the action scenes, disliked the tone, disliked pretty much everything. She warmed a little later, but only because she thought Extinction salvaged the series. The thing about Extinction is that the global apocalypse, the White Queen, that stuff is all in the first's movies screenplay, in scenes they cut.
I personally love when a director takes source material and makes it theirs. But I do think it breeds a lot of toxicity where source material fans will cry for decades about how their beloved source material "deserves" an adaptation that "does it justice". It's like how fans of the book Starship Troopers have been crying for decades about how they want a real adaptation.
Resident evil 1 is the best action horror of the 2000s
thank you for convincing me to watch even horizon Anderson schizos