Unironically the most entertaining Joker story of the past decade.
Red Hood kills Silver Age Jokester
Golden Age Jokester wants to make more Jokers
Killing Joker kills Joe Chill and Golden Age Jokester so Batman will hate him forever Batman's known Killing Joker's identity since day one
Yeah, he knows who he is (if it's consistent with Flashpoint Beyond, also written by Johns, his name is Jack Oswald White), but it wasn't from day 1, he discovered his identity 1 week after they meet.
Joker's identity is traditionally treated as a mystery, I don't recall Batman ever claiming he didn't know his identity, but I also don't recall Batman ever saying he knew his identity, it's not like he's ever called Joker by his actual name like he sometimes does with other villains like Penguin or Two-Face, it's always just Joker, so the implication was that Joker's identity was simply a mystery to everyone.
Also don't forget they retconned that Joker's pregnant wife from Killing Joke is actually alive, she faked her death cause she was afraid her husband would kill her or something, she lives in Alaska now with her son.
A bunch of nothingburgers due to Geoff waiting too long to resolve combined with him backing out on tying it into Doomsday Clock.
Basically Joker started kidnapping sex offenders and low level criminals and homeless people and turning them into Jokers. A Silver Age Joker and Golden Age Joker were converted to a degree that Joker was satisfied in having them work with him as equals with Golden Age Joker was allowed running the show while regular Joker did other shit in other books.
Red Hood killed Silver Age Joker in front of Batgirl, who feigned outrage but didn't do much to save him. And then they made out but a note Jason left confessing that he always had the hots for Babs got lost and she never found out that he wanted to maybe start a formal relationship with her.
But Joker and "Joker" then kidnap a dying Joe Chill to replace Silver Age "Joker" and Batman saves him. Golden Age "Joker" dies but not before making Joe Chill (in a MASSIVE retcon) denounce the whole notion that he was a mob hitman who killed the Waynes because Thomas had helped the police one Halloween bust a major gangster. He claimed he was a poor gay who was jealous of the Waynes and their wealth and it was a mugging gone wrong and later saw that Thomas and Martha's charity work was the only thing keeping Gotham from turning into a new Sodom and basically regretted murdering them after the fact. Bruce forgives Chill who is return to prison hospice and dies.
Afterwards while taking Joker to prison, Joker admits that he's known Bruce was Batman all along and the identities of the rest of the Batman family too and that the whole point of the 3 Joker thing was to be a smokescreen for Joker kidnapping Joe Chill and forcing Bruce to make peace with him while keeping Joe from being Jokerized, because Joker was pissy that Joe Chill not him was Bruce's true arch nemesis.
The coda then reveals that Bruce has secretly known who Joker is all along and the biggest retcon/twist: Joker's wife never died in Killing Joke. She called the cops after Joker yelled at her before going out as the Red Hood and she ended up lucking out and getting two honest cops come to her apartment and offer to pay to help her leave Joker and get out of town as part of an "underground railroad" for abused women that relocates them and gives them new identities. And Bruce holds this as his ultimate triumph; that he knows where Joker's wife and son are at and that Joker will never know his son as far as being the real reason why Bruce won't kill Joker; the fact that Bruce is denying Joker access to his son is a greater revenge than murdering him given everything Joker's done to Batman and his loved ones.
I get that Johns has no love for Batman but the fact that neither he (the worlds greatest detective), the cops or anyone at Arkham noticed that they were dealing with three different people was a step too far even by capeshit standards.
>I get that Johns has no love for Batman
An anon storytimed every Johns comic ever written and that's why I know you are full of shit. Johns writes an amazing Batman.
It gave us this unintentionally funny moment.
Jason is honestly lucky that Babs didn't read that letter, it basically boils down to >frick me and I'll be a good boy 🙂 >I could even be your malewife if you want...
Probaby the most pathetic thing Jason has ever done.
>Bruce in DCAU >Dick in comic continuity >Tim in Arkhamverse
When will Jason get his turn to ride the Babmobile? If Damian gets to go first the cucking will be truly complete.
It's still so funny to me that he thought the best way to deliver this extremely personal message was through a letter shittily taped onto her door FOR EVERYONE TO SEE that just falls off the second Jason turns his back, he couldn't even slide it under her door, fricking moron.
So what was the outcome?
I stopped reading comics years ago
Then why do you care?
Unironically the most entertaining Joker story of the past decade.
Red Hood kills Silver Age Jokester
Golden Age Jokester wants to make more Jokers
Killing Joker kills Joe Chill and Golden Age Jokester so Batman will hate him forever
Batman's known Killing Joker's identity since day one
That's confusing
>Batman's known Killing Joker's identity since day one
Identity as who he was before he was the Joker?
Yeah, he knows who he is (if it's consistent with Flashpoint Beyond, also written by Johns, his name is Jack Oswald White), but it wasn't from day 1, he discovered his identity 1 week after they meet.
So is this supposed to be a surprising revelation? Had Batman ever claimed he didn't know who it was?
Joker's identity is traditionally treated as a mystery, I don't recall Batman ever claiming he didn't know his identity, but I also don't recall Batman ever saying he knew his identity, it's not like he's ever called Joker by his actual name like he sometimes does with other villains like Penguin or Two-Face, it's always just Joker, so the implication was that Joker's identity was simply a mystery to everyone.
Also don't forget they retconned that Joker's pregnant wife from Killing Joke is actually alive, she faked her death cause she was afraid her husband would kill her or something, she lives in Alaska now with her son.
A bunch of nothingburgers due to Geoff waiting too long to resolve combined with him backing out on tying it into Doomsday Clock.
Basically Joker started kidnapping sex offenders and low level criminals and homeless people and turning them into Jokers. A Silver Age Joker and Golden Age Joker were converted to a degree that Joker was satisfied in having them work with him as equals with Golden Age Joker was allowed running the show while regular Joker did other shit in other books.
Red Hood killed Silver Age Joker in front of Batgirl, who feigned outrage but didn't do much to save him. And then they made out but a note Jason left confessing that he always had the hots for Babs got lost and she never found out that he wanted to maybe start a formal relationship with her.
But Joker and "Joker" then kidnap a dying Joe Chill to replace Silver Age "Joker" and Batman saves him. Golden Age "Joker" dies but not before making Joe Chill (in a MASSIVE retcon) denounce the whole notion that he was a mob hitman who killed the Waynes because Thomas had helped the police one Halloween bust a major gangster. He claimed he was a poor gay who was jealous of the Waynes and their wealth and it was a mugging gone wrong and later saw that Thomas and Martha's charity work was the only thing keeping Gotham from turning into a new Sodom and basically regretted murdering them after the fact. Bruce forgives Chill who is return to prison hospice and dies.
Afterwards while taking Joker to prison, Joker admits that he's known Bruce was Batman all along and the identities of the rest of the Batman family too and that the whole point of the 3 Joker thing was to be a smokescreen for Joker kidnapping Joe Chill and forcing Bruce to make peace with him while keeping Joe from being Jokerized, because Joker was pissy that Joe Chill not him was Bruce's true arch nemesis.
The coda then reveals that Bruce has secretly known who Joker is all along and the biggest retcon/twist: Joker's wife never died in Killing Joke. She called the cops after Joker yelled at her before going out as the Red Hood and she ended up lucking out and getting two honest cops come to her apartment and offer to pay to help her leave Joker and get out of town as part of an "underground railroad" for abused women that relocates them and gives them new identities. And Bruce holds this as his ultimate triumph; that he knows where Joker's wife and son are at and that Joker will never know his son as far as being the real reason why Bruce won't kill Joker; the fact that Bruce is denying Joker access to his son is a greater revenge than murdering him given everything Joker's done to Batman and his loved ones.
It's funny that Johns wants Joker's son to be a Robin, if his JSA book is anything to go by.
Holy shit, what a load of garbage
That's Geoff Johns for ya
It was crap, the raccoon did it again.
Sexiest Babs
People praise the art for this run, but it just looks okay to me.
Another perfect example of why Johns is a mediocre writer trying to gain relevance by piggybacking on Moore's stuff.
ending shat the bed
I get that Johns has no love for Batman but the fact that neither he (the worlds greatest detective), the cops or anyone at Arkham noticed that they were dealing with three different people was a step too far even by capeshit standards.
>I get that Johns has no love for Batman
An anon storytimed every Johns comic ever written and that's why I know you are full of shit. Johns writes an amazing Batman.
wut? Johns writes a terrible Batman.
At least Alan Moore probably doesn't care about someone retconning The Killing Joke like he would with Watchmen
It gave us this unintentionally funny moment.
Jason is honestly lucky that Babs didn't read that letter, it basically boils down to
>frick me and I'll be a good boy 🙂
>I could even be your malewife if you want...
Probaby the most pathetic thing Jason has ever done.
>Bruce in DCAU
>Dick in comic continuity
>Tim in Arkhamverse
When will Jason get his turn to ride the Babmobile? If Damian gets to go first the cucking will be truly complete.
>When will Jason get his turn to ride the Babmobile? If Damian gets to go first the cucking will be truly complete.
Jason gets Steph
>Jason gets Steph
I like it.
It's still so funny to me that he thought the best way to deliver this extremely personal message was through a letter shittily taped onto her door FOR EVERYONE TO SEE that just falls off the second Jason turns his back, he couldn't even slide it under her door, fricking moron.