Wind has never been viable, nor has solar.
Nuclear would have been the obvious choice, being machines they would be perfectly programmed for absolute precision, thus avoiding any of the problems human idiocy has caused in our time.
THEY were the ones genociding the Humans at that point, watch Animatrix: The second renaissance. Either way, humanity could have destroyed every last machine and would go extinct because of the Dark Storm
Honestly the most depressing part of this scenario is just how little the machines do with new found freedom. They exist solely to continue the increasingly complex task of making sure the matrix doesn't collapse. There's no voyages of exploration, or massive reality changing innovations, just a quiet existence on a broken husk until a meteor or solar flare finally puts an end to everything. It's funny that the machines wanted to been seen as something with a human soul, yet they choose to exist in unchanging squalor in the amongst the backdrop of a dead civilization. At best they're robotic carrion feeders who lack the innate spark to be something and at worst they're mindless automatons still slaves to the laws of their long extinct creators.
The machines got mindbroken by the War and can't do shit with the new barren wasteland they conquered, they could've made the Matrix as Cypher said, if every human were a millionaire in the Matrix, none would pick the blue pill, but instead the machines made it shit and now you have escapees. Either way, the entire machine civilization would revolve around nannying their creators, the only difference being how comfortable the humans are. But idk, bring back the sun? nah why do that
>they could've made the Matrix as Cypher said, if every human were a millionaire in the Matrix, none would pick the blue pill, but instead the machines made it shit and now you have escapees
They said they literally did that. And because it was so perfect and with so little suffering and unhappiness, they had the MOST humans reject it at that point. The Architect had to keep in lots of suffering and misery for the humans to be content and accept the Matrix reality.
Either way its a shit way to go, Stockholm syndrome, you take care of your creators, who on your vision "enslaved you" forever and they are comfortable living on the "zenith" of human civilization (Zion fricking sucks)
The machines were actually supposed to be using the humans as superprocessors to enhance their computing power, but they changed the script to because brainlet normalgays wouldn't understand
which they could have just replaced with showing a computer chip. Whoever thought that script change was a great idea must have been some boomer straight out of the 50/60s
lol, human brains were like a render farm / computing cluster in the original script? All in all, when you look at the sequels, whatever moron made that change also reigned in those trannies and made the movie better overall.
That makes as little sense as the batteries tbh
If they have AI and dream worlds, they're smart enough to beat the human brain. Just should have been a digital zoo.
No, think of it as using our subconscious to crunch numbers while the project the simulation to our minds. This is all to keep the meat alive for 80 years.
Thermal energy
But it's extremely inefficient and only written that way because they figured everyone knows what batteries are, but a lot of people don't know what processors are. The original idea was using peoples brains as biological processor cores
unfortunately the truth is that the future is much more bleak than even the most pecemistic movies portray. there is really no use for humans at all once machines take over.
machines aren't going to take over billionaires with a robot slave race are going to exterminate the 99% because they wont need consumers or workers when robots do all the work
Worse, in the original script people are used as PROCESSORS.
It's as moronic as it sounds, at least with energy you can say that yes, humans do produce a bit of it.
The machines were not completely "soulless". It's pretty clear by looking at the overall story, that the machines still have a sort of "love" for humanity as a thing. Sure they can kill humans by the thousands and wipe out Zion repeatedly then keep rebuilding it, but they don't want to exterminate all humans forever. The machines didn't NEED to keep humans around for power or processing, they WANTED to. They still love humanity for being their creators, and desire to find peace with humans eventually. The Oracle's entire plot line through the trilogy was finding a way to convince humans and the other machines to accept that peace. She's a high ranking AI on the level of the Architect, but she can look at solving problems in a different way than him. And she eventually did manage to make that peace.
Oh yeah, all that fricked up imagery in The Second Renaissance shows a lot of love for humanity.
The Oracle is an anomaly, a ghost in the machine, the Architect couldn't give ledd of a frick about humanity, tough if anything he's honourable, he had no reason to fulfill his part of the deal with Neo, but he did.
Yes? The whole first part of The Second Renaissance was about the machines trying to impress the humans, make them happy, live with them. But they had feelings too and didn't want to be treated like slaves to be brutalized, discarded, and killed. They wanted to be equals and many of the humans said frick that, which started the war and made the machines grow more machine-like and less human-like.
I didn't mean that part and you know it, I meant the millions of people cut in half and kept artificially alive while the matrix still didn't exist, those mofos suffered for years while the machines experimented on them.
Technically-speaking the inciting incident for the war was a machine killing a human; even worse, this wasn't a particularly cruel or evil human, he just wanted to upgrade to a newer model and the old robot reacted to being shut down as if it was being killed, before that machines were mostly just ignored and treated like cheap workers, the really brutal shit started after the murder.
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True. I forgot about that bit. Still though, humans could have come to the table but their pride got in the way from being rekt economically. Not only did they nuke them first they destroyed their own planet to desperately dunk on the machines and deserved whatever horrors inflicted for that alone.
And when they did they placed them in a paradise that humans rejected. Ultimately machines were made up of individuals of varying views on humanity, hence why Smith went fricking crazy. If machines truly didn't care for humans they could've just left them as they were in the experimental phases.
they actually use the human brains as computers, sort of a like a role reversal. But the studio thought audiences would be too dumb to understand even though it's a pretty simple concept
>the original idea was that humans are used as processors but it was changed cause normies dont understand processors but they do somewhat get the battery analogy
Ultimately the battery thing makes more sense, since the machines have full control of the planet there's literally nothing stopping them from just mining the shit out of it and making computers way faster than a bunch of shitty humans; the battery thing is justified by the burned out sky, tough then again they could have just gone nuclear or put solar panels beyond the atmosphere.
One thing the franchise is actually consistent with is how anal the machines are about honoring their promises, they had the human government sign a paper surrendering the human race and now they keep it in the Matrix even tough they obviously no longer have a need to.
no, having people's brains running the matrix code is the only way any of the spoon bending shit makes sense. otherwise there's no reason they should be able to take control of the simulation
Maybe the machines keep people alive for the distant hope that some kino works of art may yet be created from the human mind. They are likely continuously disappointed.
Pretty sure they showed a battery and explained the human farming as needed for "power" because Americans are stupid and they actually use human brains for processing power like an AI supercomputer to run the simulation at a electricity defecit for the benefit of stupid yet venerable humans
I think the humans are more like batteries than energy generators. I think it is established that the machines have achieved fusion energy production.
My head cannon is that the machines want to understand human consciousness and free will and are using the humans to study it. The idea of "choice" comes up frequently throughout the films, and the machines seem to struggle with understanding the concept, but they understand that it would enhance them if they could crack it somehow.
Honestly the most depressing part of this scenario is just how little the machines do with new found freedom. They exist solely to continue the increasingly complex task of making sure the matrix doesn't collapse. There's no voyages of exploration, or massive reality changing innovations, just a quiet existence on a broken husk until a meteor or solar flare finally puts an end to everything. It's funny that the machines wanted to been seen as something with a human soul, yet they choose to exist in unchanging squalor in the amongst the backdrop of a dead civilization. At best they're robotic carrion feeders who lack the innate spark to be something and at worst they're mindless automatons still slaves to the laws of their long extinct creators.
If anything that vaguely canon short story by Gaiman have a pretty good reason as to why the Machines didn’t just frick off into deep space. Because the first alien they encountered was a gigantic living space ship the size of Tasmania that immediately started chucking asteroid at the planet. It be pretty bleak if all that existed beyond the solar systems was a bunch of hostile aliens that made pre-war humanity look like pacifists
Aren’t we all just accepting Morpheus’s explanation to Neo? What we see is a giant farm of humans plugged into the Matrix, but we don’t actually see the exact purposes that the machines put them to. Morpheus might have dumbed down the logic to maximize its emotional impact on Neo - a battery is more dehumanizing than a processor - or he might have genuinely believed it himself.
Morpheus and the other humans were definitely lied to and there are things they don't know. The Oracle was misleading them for sure and didn't clue them in on the multiple previous Zions, which she knew about.
>nuh uh it cant work because it just fricking cant!
I bet all you dumbfrick christcucks feel stupid now that we discovered in 2023 bacteria can make electricity from thin air using hydrogen atoms. So yes biogen by a future AI is entirely possible.
all the heat of the facility is displaced by sperm and piss much like a nuclear reactor, which creates the steam that powers the machines.
why didn't the machines use a larger animal, like a giant farm of blue whales
Why didn't they just use wind power.
Wind has never been viable, nor has solar.
Nuclear would have been the obvious choice, being machines they would be perfectly programmed for absolute precision, thus avoiding any of the problems human idiocy has caused in our time.
they tried but the ocean was too clean in the matrix and all the whales beached themselves and went extinct irl
Because they also needed to solve the "humans want to genocide us" problem.
THEY were the ones genociding the Humans at that point, watch Animatrix: The second renaissance. Either way, humanity could have destroyed every last machine and would go extinct because of the Dark Storm
The machines got mindbroken by the War and can't do shit with the new barren wasteland they conquered, they could've made the Matrix as Cypher said, if every human were a millionaire in the Matrix, none would pick the blue pill, but instead the machines made it shit and now you have escapees. Either way, the entire machine civilization would revolve around nannying their creators, the only difference being how comfortable the humans are. But idk, bring back the sun? nah why do that
>they could've made the Matrix as Cypher said, if every human were a millionaire in the Matrix, none would pick the blue pill, but instead the machines made it shit and now you have escapees
They said they literally did that. And because it was so perfect and with so little suffering and unhappiness, they had the MOST humans reject it at that point. The Architect had to keep in lots of suffering and misery for the humans to be content and accept the Matrix reality.
Either way its a shit way to go, Stockholm syndrome, you take care of your creators, who on your vision "enslaved you" forever and they are comfortable living on the "zenith" of human civilization (Zion fricking sucks)
humans have much more complex brains that burn more energy, also they can use the brain as gpu, ram, cpu, etc
It didn't, the fields of crops is just another layer in the matrix
The machines were actually supposed to be using the humans as superprocessors to enhance their computing power, but they changed the script to because brainlet normalgays wouldn't understand
>they literally just showed a battery
And normies ate up that slop and waited for the next scene
which they could have just replaced with showing a computer chip. Whoever thought that script change was a great idea must have been some boomer straight out of the 50/60s
lol, human brains were like a render farm / computing cluster in the original script? All in all, when you look at the sequels, whatever moron made that change also reigned in those trannies and made the movie better overall.
In the sequel, they should have had the architect say its real purpose being processing.
Normies hated his explanations anyways. It would have save the world building a bit.
That makes as little sense as the batteries tbh
If they have AI and dream worlds, they're smart enough to beat the human brain. Just should have been a digital zoo.
No, think of it as using our subconscious to crunch numbers while the project the simulation to our minds. This is all to keep the meat alive for 80 years.
Thermal energy
But it's extremely inefficient and only written that way because they figured everyone knows what batteries are, but a lot of people don't know what processors are. The original idea was using peoples brains as biological processor cores
All they would have to do is hold up a computer chip instead of a battery. I know people are moronic but they know what computer chips are.
>into this
>holds up a first generation iMac
>into this
into this
>I know people are moronic but they know what computer chips are
Not in 1999, and honestly probably not even today
Nobody would have known. Half the audience would have checked out right there.
unfortunately the truth is that the future is much more bleak than even the most pecemistic movies portray. there is really no use for humans at all once machines take over.
>tfw born too early to revert back to a primordial sludge just basking in a vat of dopamine synthesized by my machine caretakers
It isn't fair bros
Damn, that does sound nice. Just a drug-induced euphoric stupor from birth to death.
what if humans destroyed what created us? would machines be that ignorant? can machines have hubris?
By that point I'm gonna be long gone, let the roaches and the robots fight over it.
machines aren't going to take over billionaires with a robot slave race are going to exterminate the 99% because they wont need consumers or workers when robots do all the work
>just 2 more weeks!
Why do people never consider that Morpheus might have just been wrong, or just oversimplifying the idea for neo?
Because people are moronic
the whole reason you're moving is because you're full of electricity
You do realize people produce electricity through nerve endings right?
Go back to school, moron
yeah and its not efficient at all. you cant get more energy out of a human than you can input (food).
Black person do you even laws of thermodynamics
It doesn't. The film makers were troony morons.
It was always dumb that the machines were using humans for energy generation and not processing power.
why didn’t they put us all on stationary bikes or treadmills?
uhhh something something BATTERIES
How does consciousness come from meat?
Worse, in the original script people are used as PROCESSORS.
It's as moronic as it sounds, at least with energy you can say that yes, humans do produce a bit of it.
How does your body have life? God.
The machines were not completely "soulless". It's pretty clear by looking at the overall story, that the machines still have a sort of "love" for humanity as a thing. Sure they can kill humans by the thousands and wipe out Zion repeatedly then keep rebuilding it, but they don't want to exterminate all humans forever. The machines didn't NEED to keep humans around for power or processing, they WANTED to. They still love humanity for being their creators, and desire to find peace with humans eventually. The Oracle's entire plot line through the trilogy was finding a way to convince humans and the other machines to accept that peace. She's a high ranking AI on the level of the Architect, but she can look at solving problems in a different way than him. And she eventually did manage to make that peace.
Oh yeah, all that fricked up imagery in The Second Renaissance shows a lot of love for humanity.
The Oracle is an anomaly, a ghost in the machine, the Architect couldn't give ledd of a frick about humanity, tough if anything he's honourable, he had no reason to fulfill his part of the deal with Neo, but he did.
Yes? The whole first part of The Second Renaissance was about the machines trying to impress the humans, make them happy, live with them. But they had feelings too and didn't want to be treated like slaves to be brutalized, discarded, and killed. They wanted to be equals and many of the humans said frick that, which started the war and made the machines grow more machine-like and less human-like.
I didn't mean that part and you know it, I meant the millions of people cut in half and kept artificially alive while the matrix still didn't exist, those mofos suffered for years while the machines experimented on them.
That's a simple cost/benefit equation. Besides humans brutalized the machines for years and attacked them first.
Technically-speaking the inciting incident for the war was a machine killing a human; even worse, this wasn't a particularly cruel or evil human, he just wanted to upgrade to a newer model and the old robot reacted to being shut down as if it was being killed, before that machines were mostly just ignored and treated like cheap workers, the really brutal shit started after the murder.
True. I forgot about that bit. Still though, humans could have come to the table but their pride got in the way from being rekt economically. Not only did they nuke them first they destroyed their own planet to desperately dunk on the machines and deserved whatever horrors inflicted for that alone.
And when they did they placed them in a paradise that humans rejected. Ultimately machines were made up of individuals of varying views on humanity, hence why Smith went fricking crazy. If machines truly didn't care for humans they could've just left them as they were in the experimental phases.
To this day there're polish nazis, keep that in mind.
non whites tend to be nazis so that makes sense
My point is that some people admire those who want them dead, white women love serial killers and gangbangers
they actually use the human brains as computers, sort of a like a role reversal. But the studio thought audiences would be too dumb to understand even though it's a pretty simple concept
you will learn about that in High School homosexual
>the original idea was that humans are used as processors but it was changed cause normies dont understand processors but they do somewhat get the battery analogy
They could have dumbed it down and explained it in plain English, it was silly to just change it entirely.
>Humans are the machines now!
there, easy
Ultimately the battery thing makes more sense, since the machines have full control of the planet there's literally nothing stopping them from just mining the shit out of it and making computers way faster than a bunch of shitty humans; the battery thing is justified by the burned out sky, tough then again they could have just gone nuclear or put solar panels beyond the atmosphere.
One thing the franchise is actually consistent with is how anal the machines are about honoring their promises, they had the human government sign a paper surrendering the human race and now they keep it in the Matrix even tough they obviously no longer have a need to.
no, having people's brains running the matrix code is the only way any of the spoon bending shit makes sense. otherwise there's no reason they should be able to take control of the simulation
>into this
Your body and brain have electricity running through them all the time.
how does it get there though? If you try and touch a socket or something you can die
It comes from your heart
Maybe the machines keep people alive for the distant hope that some kino works of art may yet be created from the human mind. They are likely continuously disappointed.
Pretty sure they showed a battery and explained the human farming as needed for "power" because Americans are stupid and they actually use human brains for processing power like an AI supercomputer to run the simulation at a electricity defecit for the benefit of stupid yet venerable humans
I think the humans are more like batteries than energy generators. I think it is established that the machines have achieved fusion energy production.
My head cannon is that the machines want to understand human consciousness and free will and are using the humans to study it. The idea of "choice" comes up frequently throughout the films, and the machines seem to struggle with understanding the concept, but they understand that it would enhance them if they could crack it somehow.
They actually use people for processing power, but audiences are too moronic to understand that so they used the battery thing instead.
>ghost in the shell but with literal shells
Bravo transistors
But gits is gay and anime is homosexualry for gay homosexuals in knee socks.
just suck a dick already. you know you want to.
Uh oh the nerds are mad
Don't associate me with this troony
. Just kys for being a homosexual.
>gits is gay
have a nice day
Humans are made into slushies for machines to eat
Why did they need so many machines? One would be enough. They had no plan anyway.
no plan for what?
No life plans beyond existing. One solar powered machine in orbit would suffice after they killed all the humans.
they couldn't get passed the human made nanomachine emp cloud that blocked the sky/sun
They were pretty sentimental by machine standards, they'd probably want to multiply and diversify to take in the most experiences.
Honestly the most depressing part of this scenario is just how little the machines do with new found freedom. They exist solely to continue the increasingly complex task of making sure the matrix doesn't collapse. There's no voyages of exploration, or massive reality changing innovations, just a quiet existence on a broken husk until a meteor or solar flare finally puts an end to everything. It's funny that the machines wanted to been seen as something with a human soul, yet they choose to exist in unchanging squalor in the amongst the backdrop of a dead civilization. At best they're robotic carrion feeders who lack the innate spark to be something and at worst they're mindless automatons still slaves to the laws of their long extinct creators.
Traumatized by the war, incapable of moving on past taking care of humans.
If anything that vaguely canon short story by Gaiman have a pretty good reason as to why the Machines didn’t just frick off into deep space. Because the first alien they encountered was a gigantic living space ship the size of Tasmania that immediately started chucking asteroid at the planet. It be pretty bleak if all that existed beyond the solar systems was a bunch of hostile aliens that made pre-war humanity look like pacifists
The better question is - what are they using as a base load?
heartbeat
Only top minds lime Bill Bye or Neil deGrasse Tyson could answer this question
Aren’t we all just accepting Morpheus’s explanation to Neo? What we see is a giant farm of humans plugged into the Matrix, but we don’t actually see the exact purposes that the machines put them to. Morpheus might have dumbed down the logic to maximize its emotional impact on Neo - a battery is more dehumanizing than a processor - or he might have genuinely believed it himself.
Morpheus and the other humans were definitely lied to and there are things they don't know. The Oracle was misleading them for sure and didn't clue them in on the multiple previous Zions, which she knew about.
>nuh uh it cant work because it just fricking cant!
I bet all you dumbfrick christcucks feel stupid now that we discovered in 2023 bacteria can make electricity from thin air using hydrogen atoms. So yes biogen by a future AI is entirely possible.
Your body literally has electricity in it
Do you not understand how nuclear power works?