How does he succeed where Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace fail?
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How does he succeed where Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace fail?
How does he succeed where Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace fail?
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Didn't try to do everything himself and actually had a story to tell.
It wasn't perfect but it wasn't a trainwreck and there's been a lot of those lately.
This, also unlike Dana he knew to keep himself (mainly) on Disney's good side.
Only mistake on that bit was a little too violent. Much more forgivable than homosexuals
I like how Marcy getting skewered got the season finale delayed and forced them to add a warning and a season 3 preview but then ended up not actually mattering at all in the long run
>finished his show with a satisfying ending that more or less wraps up every plot point
>consistent themes across a robust quantity of episodes, not hampered by shitty scheduling
Probably the biggest two reasons
>finished his show with a satisfying ending that more or less wraps up every plot point
And addresses a new plot point in the last five minutes that the protagonist died forever and was replaced with a flesh golem that will become god the almighty
Because of a suicide spell from five minutes ago.
He's a cis white male and the Hollywood elite are racist and prejudice against POC women and nonbinaries
>white
>white
Haven't you watched the show anon?
>He's a cis white male
This is what hapas actually believe.
If only Matt was the case, he is a thai man larper that wants to be special and treated better because he is thai
Look at him you stupid fricking cracker. Does he look white to you?
>white
Maybe in Brazil
holy bait batman
Bob Boyle was way better. He created Yin Yang Yo
And where he is now?
Where did he succeed?
He joined Terrace's tirades against Disney with the gay bill and got blacklisted too. He had the same audience as TOH but less of them, his show never attracted a kid audience as intended and most see it as lackluster
>his show never attracted a kid audience as intended and most see it as lackluster
Disney seems to consider it a success and there are clips of the show on Youtube with over a million views.
Don't think that's too much of an indication
101 Dalmatian Street was a flop they tried to pretend never happened and even that got 7 million views on one of the videos
The difference itself is that Disney itself acknowledged Amphibia as a success, Marcy's Journal is also the only DTVA book that hasn't been cancelled yet.
Funnier still when TOH has better ratings. Disney doesn't care about ratings they just prefer Amphibia.
>Amphibia #14
>Owl house #20
>Better ratings
It feels good living in the real world LMAO.
Disney doesn't release streaming numbers.
Disney+ is a relatively expensive streaming service with a very family-friendly catalogue, the main audience for TOH doesn't watch TV much less owns Disney+, why else would mega-IPs such as Star Wars and Simpsons compete for the top spot alongside toddler shows?
>the main audience for TOH doesn't watch TV much less owns Disney+
You just explain why Owl House is a flop lmao.
Don't "lmao" me you moron I intended to do exactly that, even if TOH has more people on Twitter b***hing over it being cut short Disney will always prefer the frog show for being more marketable for their main fricking audience, the people who think that TOH made enough money to justify getting a full last season when the trouble of getting Dana to work alone make it a hell for suits, ESPECIALLY after a global pandemic, and let's not forget the points when she starts to bite their hand on Twitter.
Both frogs and birds destroyed by Bluey.
It sad how The Sinpsons gets the number 1 on the Disney plud stream. I expected it will failed which led the cancelation, which we desperate needed it to be.
Owl house is higher on Disney plus today according to this same source + higher this month + has better tv ratings + more trending on google
Supreme cope posting one screenshot from a few months ago
I think amphibia is the weakest overall of the three shows but I'll admit that Amphibia pulled off it's season 2 twist episode a lot better than owl house or gravity falls. I liked the Ford twist but true colors blows it out of the water. The end of the owl house s2 just felt like diet true colors.
Also I think Amphibia has a more interesting premise. I wish it did a lot more with it's world and premise, by the end of Amphibia it feels like it's lagging behind the other shows
TOH is also far more pirated/pirate streamed, I don't think there was ever a time when the latest episode wasn't #1 on kim for months, regardless of what else released at the same time.
That’s exactly why you’re getting the boot
Good show.
As usual, owltards keep spewing bullshit to cope with their flop TV/Disney+ ratings.
Why not post Amphibia's ratings for the same time period? Or are you being disingenuous and pretending people aren't dropping cable TV lightning fast.
>same period
>owl season 2 king's tide still loses to the hardest thing in ratings
yikes, what's your next course of deflection?
And Amphibia's finale loses to random mid-season S2 Owl House episodes despite premiering in primetime, oof that has to sting
And Owl House S2 finale loses to a random mid S3 Amphibia episode.
Damn you’re coping hard.
>comparing THE show finale premiering in primetime to a season finale premiering on Saturday morning
We're back to being disingenuous I see
You’re talking about ratings anon and Owlshit still lost, you deflecting into Amphibia just proves you’ve got nothing to say. You started saying Owl House did better in ratings, then got proven wrong, then said people don’t use cable as a cope, and then deflect it to "but Amphibia has low ratings too!"
You’re arguing semantics and have nothing of value to say, Owl House lost, deal with it. If it was so much more popular than Amphibia, it wouldn’t have mattered when it aired, it would have beaten it.
Also the other episodes didn’t air on primetime and still beat owl s2 so too bad.
>You started saying Owl House did better in ratings
It literally does if you look at the shows as a whole despite Amphibia having the lead/advantage of premiering earlier when more people had cable.
All thread people have been posting evidence that it doesn’t and you’ve got no evidence to prove otherwise, just saying it does, like if you post lies hard enough they come true.
You're mad because owl house will never get a primetime premiere for their episode. At this point, you're arguing based on the assumption of something which will never happen. Yeah, Amphibia gets a prime time because it's a good show, what are you going to do about it loser.
>Owl season 2 is a flop that a random episode in the season has a higher rating than its season finale
Not exactly a good look for you owltards kek. Just look at the threads in Cinemaphile, there is literally 0 topic talking about owl house, meanwhile Amphibia is reaching 2 months mark after the series finale and we still have an active thread.
The last 3 episodes aired of Amphibia that was around that time were 0.30, 0.25 and 0.35. Yes, ratings are at an all time down, but comparatively it either did better than owl or just as much.
>Owl house is higher on Disney plus today according to this same source + higher this month
Fake, I follow that person on twitter and they haven’t updated that info today or of this month. The only thing it has over other cartoon shows is how much it’s pirated, and guess what, that’s why it got cancelled. How does it feel supporting the cancellation of the show you like? Because I know you didn’t watch the show on Disney+ or in TV.
The real question is how much of the viewing public for 'TOH' is low-income or below the poverty line or from the Third World?
Ducktales is also getting an artbook
Didn't that come out already?
>youtube
You mean the site that goes out of its way to create algorithms to artificially inflate certain kinds of content, making view counts effectively meaningless as an indicator of quality/potential fan base?
This.
Humility is a virtue, also even in that document he still had a clear vision on what All In would be as the action packed climax of the season.
Holy lord of cope.
>I don't want le 2deep4u plot, i just want funny frogs and cool anime sequences
The mark of a true chad. He just does what makes him happy.
Oh shit was this taken in California? I might've worked at that place
>DONKIE!! WHY'S MY X-BOX SMELL LIKE DICK!!
>got blacklisted
How is this known?
I mean Disney isn't going to say it out loud but come on man, there's no way in hell Disney is going to work with any of the people that put them on blast for that gay bill ever again.
Thats the kind of assumption made by schizos like luke weber
>2022
>Still schizo-crying about muh Luke
Even the piss can thing was proven true by others in the animation industry
Of course anon
https://twitter.com/NicoColaleo/status/1537890421283508227
https://twitter.com/_Wolfsteak_/status/1537597885147058176
Yes schizo all these people are Luke talking to themselves
>nicocolaleo
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah
>Literally have a bunch of animation workers in the second link confirm it
>BUT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE PARTICULAR PERSON I DON'T LIKE AND MAKE THEM MY NEW LUKE DEFLECTION
Bro, you're trying too hard with your fanboyism it's honestly really pathetic
>a bunch of tweets with zero images nor evidence
The knife incident was more believable than this
Just about everyone isn't into watersports bro, why would they take a picture of this and risked getting fired
Why the dude who is already fired and blacklisted cannot post evidence? He has nothing to lose , he already burned the bridges and went priv
His account isn't private, and what's the need for that? The grooming teenage animation students was already confirmed by one of them and that's way more serious then piss cans
>ESL
Ah makes sense, you're one of those hispanics defending him because Mabel is your waifu
He’s talking about Luke going private you unpleasantly smarmy shit
>unpleasantly smarmy shit
Sounds like all of Cinemaphile.
Im talking about the guy who compared the animaniacs remake with blackface
Yeah, this guy was full of shit he couldn't prove ,just like luke
Why do all these people seem bitter and talentless?
Reading all the tweets I get the feeling that despite what Alex did all of these people seem unbearable to be around.
> proven
Matt is leaning more into implications so he's probably let off unlike Alex or Dana whom which carry bad blood and DDOS-making children. Seems like top dogs like the head of the shorts department like him too so that would definitely be a plus in keeping frog show alive.
What you talking about? Gravity Falls is not only more popular than Amphibia, but it's also way bigger. It's got more content. More books. More everything. It even lasted longer on air.
It was still getting shorts 8 years after release. And Alex is still on Disney's payroll.
Only thing Amphibia has is more episodes.
>Gravity Falls is not only more popular than Amphibia, but it's also way bigger
Cool horseshit bro
It is. GF spawned so many little shorts and books and shit. And 10 years later and it still airs long after the show ended.
> blacklisted
/co loves to believe everyone gets blacklisted for everything.
>sneezes
BLACKLISTED
>paddling the studio canoe
by not being one of ((them))
You sound like a @@@moron@@@
He didn't.
Not being as annoying as them, I guess.
>Matt's pitch for an Amphibia movie was a time travel crossover where Anne and the Plantars meet Barrel and Leif
Where would it fit in the timeline of the show?
Anywhere post finale pre epilogue
made for corruption
>Didn’t try doing something overly ambitious or out of his limit
>Was able to wrap up his story decently
>Made fun characters with coherent, easy to follow arcs, aka no toxic bullshit
>Clearly put his love and care into his work and wasn’t burnout like Hirsch or didn’t care anymore like Dana
>Was overall a friendly guy who avoided drama.
Emphasis on the last point. Most creators are literally mentally ill in some way or another. Matt might be a weeby dragon ball nerd but he doesn’t sperg out hard like Dana or Hirsch. He’s playing it smart and that’s good.
>Didn’t try doing something overly ambitious or out of his limit
Did we watch the same show?
Of course not.
As much as I loved Amphibia and I agree with and as much as I love to shit on Dana and Hirsch I will have to disagree with the notion that Amphibia is straight up the superior show, it has a lot of issues and even if some of them are to blame on the suits most of them are due to how the show worked, the half-casual half-plot season structure caused stuff like Anne going to earth to frick around for half a season while relevant stuff with much more interesting and funny characters happened in froglane, but just to reiterate on the anon I quoted, we like Amphibia because Matt and his team always felt more down-to-earth, like they cared about the show and making something they would like as much as the viewers instead of pandering or pleasing or writing a fricking fanfiction, while notoriously Hirsch and Dana had main characters as their self-inserts Matt went on record to say he saw himself as being Marcy - not the guy who thinks being Thai is a personality, the show ended on a satisfying somewhat bittersweet ending and even though it was very predictable it felt nice anyway, while Dana tried to write some super epic story of a girl going Mary Sue over the villains who control the entire fantasy world but aren't that strong, or Hirsch wrote a Twin Peaks copy with an ending that could be decent if the characters didn't act like it was nothing, I shit you not Anne dying, being given a choice then being revived with an asterisk was much better than Uncle Stan losing his memories as a sacrifice before gaining them back through Margie Simpsons logic (that some specific episode where she hits her head and loses her memories).
>I shit you not Anne dying, being given a choice then being revived with an asterisk was much better than Uncle Stan losing his memories as a sacrifice before gaining them back through Margie Simpsons logic (that some specific episode where she hits her head and loses her memories).
I feel like people's reaction to that scene and others like it was why they decided to add that bit to Anne's death to make it not just another forgettable heroic sacrifice fakeout even if it makes the rest of the ending feel really weird, even if most people are in denial of what it's insinuating and just treat it like a regular sacrifice fakeout anyway
It was a fakeout, yes, but the whole thing with the cosmic thing and the things you know? That was more interesting than the death fakeout, at least the way I see it.
Well it was mostly played as a fakeout except for when they pretty much say that the original Anne is dead and gone and you're seeing a clone right now, which is then brushed off immediately.
>Well it was mostly played as a fakeout except for when they pretty much say that the original Anne is dead and gone and you're seeing a clone right now, which is then brushed off immediately.
something something greek boat paradox something
Ships don’t have brains or families l
>burn ship into ash and construct a new ship with the same design
Seems like a different ship to me
>but the whole thing with the cosmic thing and the things you know? That was more interesting than the death fakeout
You are such a fricking moron. Putting in a bunch of cosmic bullshit right at the last minute where it will have no impact on anything except a contrived way to have a heroic sacrifice but also not is interesting to you? You must be a homestuck fan if this is your mindset.
>Putting in a bunch of cosmic bullshit right at the last minute where it will have no impact on anything except a contrived way to have a heroic sacrifice but also not is interesting to you?
At least she actually did sacrifice herself.
Sure, but nobody wants to believe that which is why you get so many people repeating the “same soul” bullshit when souls are never even brought up
>I will have to disagree with the notion that Amphibia is straight up the superior show
To TOH yes its way better
It depends on what aspects, like the series as a whole? Then Amphibia wins out but I like the dialogue and jokes more in Gravity Falls.
he may be a mutt, but he's a nice mutt. dana is a junkyard dog.
Dana just writes fanfiction. Alex is a lazy hack that is too much of a pussy to finish a good story. Matt showed us what he wanted to show. I }t wasn't what people wanted but he poured his heart into it.
what did he show? The story was pretty all over the place and the other human characters didn't have the right build up. At least Dana focuses on the characters even nobodies like Willow and Gus.
Also you care more about Luz's relationship with King and Eda than Anne and the Planters.
Belos is also a dope villain. Such a sociopath.
Love a good villain.
Very true.
It's like a list of disconnected ideas.
>It's like a list of disconnected ideas.
Yeah, "like" a list of disconnected ideas
>some crazy mental prison
>fun room of puzzles instead
Way to fail the assignment
>forgets to address the state a supposedly major character has been in for a third of the show until midway through the finale
I hate being right.
The first and second season finales seemed much better-considered than this mess.
I think the team were broken by lockdowns.
Yeah, you can tell. It's like the writers for 'Amphibia' deteriorated, while the writers for 'The Owl House' soldiered on.
A real shame because I like Amphibia more, the first two seasons that is.
Darcy feels like something they definitely just added because they thought it'd be cool and that's it
to me it felt more like an obligation. like, they didn't want to do the edgy stuff that True Colors was setting up anymore, but then what do we do with Marcy
What edgy stuff was True Colors setting up?
>Marcy was dead
>Sasha and Grimes' fate unknown
>Anne and the Plantars were stuck on Earth (and it was still the gloomy Earth from the first two seasons while it was in production)
>Toad Tower exploded
>There was this huge monster in Andrias' basement that we knew nothing about
>Marcy was dead
I don’t think they were ever really
planning on killing Marcy, it’s probably more like the other way around where the stabbing was added just for the shock value
>Marcy was dead
No one seriously thought that, there were even people who predicted the posession plot before the trailer confirmed she survived and it would happen.
That lots of people realized it was a cheap trick doesn't mean it wasn't a cheap trick.
Predictable shock bait.
Exactly how I see it too. Probably another point on a list.
All of those still made it into the final episode though.
You've missed the point.
The point was implying that Matt didn't really know what to do for All In, in actuality he just admitted that he didn't have a brilliant masterplan which is fair but he did have a list of things he wanted to pull off in the episode and which he did.
The implied criticism is that just having a list of unconnected Cool Shit(tm) for the fricking finale of the show is bad writing.
It wasn't unnconnected though, the premise of All In was that Earth was being invaded and every major character had their own setpiece moment in the episode (Sasha confronts Darcy who is essentially her past self, Grime actually sacrifices his arm for Sasha which shows long he's come since Prison Break, the Plantars face off against the Herons that killed Sprig and Polly's parents, Anne reaffirms her own identity and has her rematch with Andrias, Marcy rejects The Core's escapism fantasy and accepts that she has to move on, and Andrias finally gets closure on his relationship with Leif).
the whole "past vs. future" thing was pretty poorly conveyed. Felt like it came out of nowhere.
Progression and change was always a theme in the show, like they even spell it out to the audience in Little Frogtown.
It's a pretty weak theme. Anne supposedly changed so much her parents are surprised, but she spends just an episode or two being a brat in season 1 and the way the villagers come to love her is implied to be more about them being inhospitable than Anne changing ("Slow to Trust, Slower to Respect") and fighting with Sasha more about Anne standing up for herself against Sahsa's bad behavior than "the future" which is a weak way to conceive the conflict between them.
please name these few episodes that you have noticed
???
the point is, i feel like you're underestimating how Anne was an irresponsible kid and how she changed all throughout the season
>and the way the villagers come to love her is implied to be more about them being inhospitable than Anne changing ("Slow to Trust, Slower to Respect")
If Wartwood comes to trust and even respect Anne despite their whole thing being that they dislike outsiders then that better showcases Anne's growth from just being a troublemaker to the hero of the town.
She doesn't do much troublemaking is the problem. She stole Hop Pop's key and snuck out that one time, but after that?
>Broke HP's cane
>Took out Bessie for a joyride and nearly got herself and the snail eaten
>Took in a frog eating moth cat for a pet
>Took Polly for an outing leading to the whole family getting arrested
>Forces Sprig to hook up with Ivy along with Hop Pop
>Got the Plantars sick by not faking sickness and relaxing in the house all day, then almost led them to believe theywere dying
>Convinces Sprig to take the grubhog with them and then tries to fake being one with a hand puppet, nearly leading to her arm getting chopped off
>Participates in a robbery just because she liked her swordfighting mentor enough to trust him
Does she grow out of any of that? Late in season 3 she's cooing over reuniting with the killer moth and indeed turns it into an ally. Plus, it mostly involves the Plantars, who already liked her from the start (except Hop Pop, but he tolerated her for Sprig's sake)
>every major character had their own setpiece moment in the episode
Except for Olivia and Yunan who are just sort of there. I guess it was to have newt reps on the good guys side
>we need more gays!
That heron thing was contrived as heck.
They were mostly just there to give the Plantars their own personal final boss
which is why they're contrived as heck
Exactly.
I love seeing this list and people treating it as some sort of hard method plan for writing the finale when Matt even stated that this was a quick brainstorm session. He had his tent poles and the crew managed to connect them.
>the crew managed to connect them.
meh
Absolute shit taste. Your cancelled show will be forgotten as soon as the next gay shit comes along tranys
Nah Anne and the Plantars do more for me than the owl trio. This is mainly because Eda being the figure that she was only started being interesting right at the end of S1 and her morally corrupt antics were more or less carried by Luz's upbeat personality. King also had S1 as a detriment as well, being the textbook mascot that he was. When it came to Anne and the plantars, you really had a feel for how Anne integrated herself into the family in S1 and how the frog family started accepting her.
Eda basicaly didnt teach any magic to luz,she learned by herself .
>focuses on the characters even nobodies like Willow and Gus.
after S2 started the focus was purely Lumity, Gus and Willow didn't get a single episode to themselves, they had to share it with Hunter
Dana never cared about her show, only her lesbian ship
I'm sorry Dana didn't give a shit about love triangle bullshit and just made Lumity act like a normal fricking couple...while also focusing on other characters.
>while also focusing on other characters
Lol
Lmao
owl fans would diss Amphibia for leaving out Marcy and boast about their show, forgetting that Gus and Willow were characters in the first place and also forgetting that Amity basically just became an extension of Luz without any backbone to her troubles that didn't use the latina as a platform.
Didn't they fix that in the second half of the season?
Gus had some development but all Willow really got was getting shipped with Hunter.
Well, I can concede that with some caveats.
Why did it even get paired up with "Spider-Sprig, man?
>Why did it even get paired up with "Spider-Sprig, man?
Apparently they intentionally did it to give the audience tonal whiplash and lead them with a false sense of security and comfiness into the next episode.
Gravity Falls was much better and it didn't waste my time with an entire season of nothing. Owl House can go in the trash for being vile globohomosexual propaganda for kids.
>where Alex Hirsch
Pretty sure Gravity Falls is more popular than Amphibia.
And I'm pretty sure Alex Hirsch is financially more successful than Matt too if you want to bring that up.
How the frick did Alex fail? His show was insanely popular, had a frickton of loyal fans that still watched despite having a million hiatuses, ended it on his own terms and was so successful it singlehandedly spawned a billion loreshit copycat shows after its end.
He ended it early because he burned out, burned bridges with his employer, and hasn't made anything since.
Alex is still employed by the Mouse. If he hasn't made anything, though he has, it's because he doesn't want to.
>though he has
Made a show that was good on reruns. It wasnt overtly queer until the final ep. I like amphibia but its a very safe good cartoon.
https://twitter.com/cutetanuki_chan/status/1538686464564805634?cxt=HHwWhICy0f3LwdoqAAAA
Half of the townies get an episode that makes them considerably more interesting right before they fade into the background for the rest of the show
>Marcy didn't get a single episode to herself
What the frick did the crew have against her
They probably hunt irl Marcys for sport.
What about the one where she gets cored?
She was in that for a couple of minutes after the boring newts faffed around for the rest of the episode.
Then not seen again till the end.
Marcy being a third wheel instead of an equal member of a trio of dysfunctional friends is the biggest weakness of the whole show. It's Anne and Sasha butt-heading heads and also Marcy is there.
Why did they even bother? It really feels like they didn't even try.
Just one of the many things that was discussed at length in an interview and not, you know, the show itself. Like come on, Matt.
>https://pastebin.com/zzzCbCch
Why? Fricking why? Jesus. It's not that hard.
she actually got a whole series. [s]TOH[/s]
And it was canned, lol. Marcy is made to suffer.
>Half the thread is some owlgay trany trying to shit on amphibia
>He doesn't try to point out what makes TOH good cause he knows there is nothing
>Same gayging and false flagging
Can you bunch of morons stop getting baited by this tribegay threads
This is now Sashanne thread.
esl
Just say you want more of this cute couple. I'm obliged to post more of them here.
Toadie and Croaker got an episode, but Marcy and Sasha didn't. We understand Toadie and Croaker's dynamic better than the two other girls in the show.
Owlfrygays can't stop losing LMAO!
>but Marcy and Sasha didn't.
They had more episodes about them than Toadie or Croaker.
You missed the point.
Yeah Sasha and Marcy not having an episode was a bizarre choice. Seemed like a bare minimum thing to do.
It's not like they didn't have time for it either. It's just confusing and frustrating.
Stop equating Sasha to that irrelevant character named Marcy. Sasha has her own episodes like Barrel's hammer, Toadcatcher and Turning Point.
I'll bite.
Sasha and Marcy together, anon.
His spam is getting on my nerves too but ignore him.
Yes.
Oh Hell yes!
Since you are feeding schizo who is probably the same owltribegay that stopped posting just as the latter showed up this thread is bound to go to the shitter. Unironically worst than /trash/
Why would she want to hang with Marcy when she had the most beef with Anne? Especially when Marcy was the third wheel during their Amphibia time.
I'm getting tired of your shtick.
sometimes it really does baffle me how people come into conclusions like these. The 2 int is widespread
You just have bad reading comprehension.
I want to wear this outfit and mince about with my wiener tucked like a fricking homosexual, or famous transgender athlete Lia Thomas
When they altered the stick-figure character design when Marcy was in the Core suit it looked pretty good so I regret they put Ann in shorts instead of doing the same thing with her.
>Anne watches her friend get impaled before her eyes, spends months not knowing if she’s even alive (and having more reason to think she’s not) and finally sees her only for her to have been taken over by some evil abomination
>first thing she says to her is “what are you wearing?”
Sasha told Anne Marcy was still alive first chance she got...although how she was supposed to know that is not explained.
She heard Andrias ordering her to be tanked.
I thought she'd already jumped out the window
Apparently not.
>Why is [show or show runner] good, where as [other show or show runner] bad.
There have been so many of these threads lately and I'm pretty sure OP will post one where he puts Hirsch on the pedestal over Braly in a few hours. Why is Cinemaphile so easily manipulated?
Girlfriend nip tease.
He's not confrontational and antagonistic publicly and bites the hand that feeds him like Alex and Dana.
Wasn't he b***hing about Disney on Twitter?
Who’d be the better waifu for Anne? Sasha or Marcy?
Anne can shack up with Sprig.
Sasha and don't you dare say the other person's name.
Marcy.
>Marcy
-is straight. Yes, I know.
Straight up gay.
Marcy is straight up gay as in happy, she's so happy that she's not gay.
>Sasha and Marcy together
Their relationship with each other is irrelevant, as it should be. We do not need another episode dedicated to Marcy getting sidelined by Sasha in favor of Anne. Just watch the Beginning of the End flashback if you want that.
Yes so not gay that she's swinging into the homosexual zone for a third round. She's level three homosexual.
Marcy is NaruSaku and BakugoxUraraka shipper. Sorry, but Marcy is straight.
All three girls are good Roman Catholics
Mmm yes very good Catholic girls.
i can't be the only one that sees this
You and Sook both see it and even though I haven't watched the og it's possible I suppose.
I'm just left wondering how the frick did Marcy survive?
we never get the chance to meet Sasha's mother
Did she or any of the parents matter?
They should have.
Anne and Sasha follow lesbianism also known as Sapphism.
Actually Sasha is bi.
Around Anne, she is a lesbian.
Her state as bi is static.
Her being bi is just a cover-up. Sasha is only interested in Anne, she is ANNE-sexual.
Anus sexual? I don't think that's a thing. Matt said bisexual.
Anne sexo
Anne saxophone?
The lazy mirror tool use will always make me laugh. What was the artist think? We can see the scar and beauty mark on the wrong side kek.
Such high levels of gay that it influenced those around her. Marcy can make others gay!
Sprig/twig already claimed her and her friends are fully supportive of it.
You know that sprig is only 12ish and Anne is 23 at the end of the show right? Lol
>not knowing how time works
HAHAHAHA This fricking moronic yuriBlack person
Remember that time sprig cucked sasha
You mean all season 1 and 2 , 3/4 of the third one and the entire epilogue where they drifted apart and Anne dedicates his life to relive his time in amphibia instead of hanging out with sasha. Nah i think i don't remember
Pfff you almost got it champ, Sprig is actually 21 now and Anne is just 10. He now only needs to change his gender to be just like you.
Sprig is 12 and Anne is 13 and is an unaging ghost so eventually he’ll be the pedophile in this scenario
The one who cucked Sasha of course.
That little fic of sprig cucking sasha will be forever an /amph/ classic lol
neither, they're both awful
No wonder why Amphibia never got popular. They had no idea what they were doing and what people liked.
Amphibia's overarching story and themes were actually outlined from the beginning, not every detail was fleshed out yet but Matt knew where he wanted to go for each season and that's probably why the show has a tighter structure than other series.
Meanwhile Alex and Dana have admitted that basically winged it with their shows. Alex said Gravity Falls started out as some random idea he had that Disney really liked and greenlit into a show, stuff like the Cipher wheel was just thrown in because it looked cool which is probably why it never amounted to anything.
Dana meanwhile has said that she didn't figure out what she wanted the Owl House to be until nearly by the end of the first season and even when she finally did, her plans got derailed by Disney chopping down the third season.
He actually cared about telling a story more than fellating himself until he got tired or pushing an agenda.
Hey remember when Bog was set up as a threat for S3?
That went nowhere.
He was with the rebellion speedy watcher
She's the reason why Sasha is gay.
Alright so consensus seems to be that Amphibia delivered while the other two faltered. So if I should watch one of these shows it should be Amphibia, right?
It kind of delivered.
If you like yurishit in any capacity then no, cause the fandom will make you think it's about that and is not.
Why would a children's cartoon only be about sex?
Because...?
>Why would a children's cartoon only be about sex?
Because groomers.
>Why would a children's cartoon only be about sex?
Tell that to all the trannies in this thread. Amphibia is a comfy bittersweet story about change and building friendships. Its pretty great. Autistic loregays and yuriBlack folk just wanted more fanservice and they are mad cause they didn't get it.
Based.
cringe
Oh, you liked Mother Olm's bit. And Domino. And the shitty Core fight.
Yes. If you don't you just have shit taste i suppose.
Why not just take all that runtime from Godomino and Mother Olm and use it for the fight.
That would make it better though, we can't have that!
Literally anything would’ve been a better use of runtime than the fricking cat god meeting. More time with the fight, more time with the goodbyes, more time with the epilogue, hell, even more time with everybody weeping over Anne’s ashes would’ve been better
Equally sad as funny but it's the truth.
Wait. You actually wanted a good episode? You're mad! Insane!
No.
Yes
What did it deliver on? A checklist of cliches?
>Amphibia delivered
It delivered a shit ton of exposition dump in the final exposed, a shitty deus ex machina, a completely unnecessary aside with no build up, a like three-minute-long final boss fight that was honestly one of the most disappointing fights in the series, and a somewhat mediocre epilogue that could be undone by one character who mysteriously disappeared from the story because reasons.
>exposed
episode
What was the aside?
God, but in the form of a cat.
In the form of domino ffs.
So it's basically like Avatar's finale, a show that's praised for its ending as much as the series itself?
You should watch Amphibia, yes. Don't listen to
where most of the problems rely on the finale despite the entire show being more or less uncontested with its quality. Again, there are debatable parts but it's overall a nice experience.
Oh frick off the end ruins the show.
YuriBlack folk detected go back to your shitty board. This is not your show
Anon. We are specifically talking about the shows ended up delivering on in their finales.
didn't look that to me considering how the og anon's wording accounted for TOH- which everyone knows hasn't ended yet.
>So if I should watch one of these shows it should be Amphibia, right?
Frick no. Do you like dumbass childrens shows where each episode has to deliver a certain moral, with the character apologizing and explaining said moral to the audience at the end of each episode? Because that's 95% of Amphibia even though the remaining 5% focusing on lore and characters dealing with changing complex relationships is all anyone on Cinemaphile talks about.
If I had to pick only one show to watch out of the 3 it would be Gravity Falls no doubt because it does the non-loregayging comfy misadventures with fantastical elements so much better.
Amphibia shits on those lessons in season three too.
How does it do that?
>Don't keep wild animals, but wait no you totally can!
you are deranged, anon. I'm betting you're the type of guy to complain about Anne searching wikipedia for portal solutions.
Domino2 was a mistake, sorry Matt.
Domino 3 was the biggest mistake of all
Lmfao every time they added a cat it got worse.
>Anne (a wild animal) was a mistake, sorry Matt.
>Marcy (a wild animal) was a mistake, sorry Matt.
>Frobo (an unknown thing) was a mistake, sorry Matt.
>The Plantars (wild animals) were a mistake, sorry Matt.
>Frobo (an unknown thing) was a mistake, sorry Matt.
Little bit, yeah
Sasha has to tame a b***h.
Nice leash.
Too many mistakes. Is Matt a wild animal?
Tranys are indeed a mistake of nature and sometimes like wild animals ought to be put down
> 5% focusing on lore and characters dealing with changing complex relationships is all anyone on Cinemaphile talks about.
that's because Cinemaphile is stupiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid. I live and breathe morals. Give me those good morals. Plantar's Last Stand ain't an S tier for nothin', y'know?
The "muh future" thing is fricking weird considering that the collapse of the advance civilization rendered Amphibia a dangerous and dirty place where children need to learn to fight off monsters to survive....and this is supposed to be good?
The Core was a shit final villain
Please stop replying to it.
>Day 39
>Trannies still seething they didn't got her cake.
This thread has too many anally devastated trannies an too little lewds, lets fix that
sourpuss anons always say"go back to /trash/" but that honestly feels like a warm invitation considering how much shit these threads experience.
Then go.
/u/ homosexuals just ruin everything they interact with
>20 bucks and she'll show you her panties
>Sasha: *paid the 20 bucks to herself*
>Sasha: now show me your panties Anne, you know the rule.
Is that Sasha and Sally in the corner?
Wally*
Lets not forget the frogs, they can be quite pleasant to look at too
Mammals are better.
A hole is a hole and this is war
This is Mishal posting as anon.
Yeah only he would want to frick a cold mess.
>Anon come here, the water is just delicious
Sasha's that salt water you moron, stop drinking it
I don't think Sasha takes kindly to facts mate.
does that mean that Sasha was the Int 2 all along instead of Anne?
No she just bends reality to her whim like a queen.
Marcy probably made her wear this when she lost a bet
Honestly can't blame her, Marcy probably doesn't win often and Sashy looks good in that. The subsequent attempts on Marcy's life were worth it.
I want to taste her milk
>AU where Anne is kept as livestock by the Plantars
>milk is unknown in Amphibia, which has no mammals
>they fet rich selling "Anne juice"
And there they go.
Marcy studies the gravitational properties of such massive objects .
I’m starting to think the reason Sprig gets 4 emotional goodbyes with Anne within eight minutes was because they couldn’t decide which one to use and figured the best solution was to use them all
I can't breathe, that was it!
They could have even further and cuck the girls out of the credits but they decided that it was too much
Like a friend said. "Amphibia feels like what you get if no one ever said no."
They're both girls. Girls can kiss girls.
>What a freak lol!
>Watermelon
>Bi in LA
lol she has been blacked for sure
Srly she must have had a breast reduction at some point. Just not viable doing field practices with those around
Boring spam again. I'm sleepy now too. Well at least you made me laugh a few times.
i know but hey is better than doomers and trannies trying to outdone one another to see who is more ass blasted
No I rather discuss the show.
Way too high grade for a shitpost.
i mean they are just too big
lucky Sasha.
Soooo little lewds of Marcy that are not yurishit. come on (you) must have some
There's some bad stuff out there.
Nothing you're getting from me.
go to athos' pixiv acc
Sasha cheerleader outfit awoke something is so many people
you can link it
@Handmadesalami on baraag
If you want to dump bad porn there's a thread in /trash/ for that.
Nope, we get another thread absolutely ruined.
why do I find the scar weirdly erotic?
You're fricked up that's why.
it's true, I don't even want to do anything to it, I just kind of wanna see what it feels like, I've never seen a scar like that so my curiosity is mixing with my want to coom
pray for me anons, I may have hit the point of no return and I hate it
Just get clipped, drops the lebido.
I need to hit the sack. I'll pray for trannies and doomers to die on their sleep, but god is rarely that merciful, night frogbros.
>die on their sleep
kek
Amphibia will forever be based to me for not committing to a lesbian ending and pissing off /u/ because of it.
>not committing to a lesbian ending
Literally confirmed one of them munches carpet when there was no need to and romance had never been touched on before.
Some people genuinely don't understand Matt likes Yuri.
I'm surprised that Matt actually believed shippers would excuse the separation because of a last second blush and a polaroid.
Matt is very new to this Rodeo.
He's just not that bright.
Yeah he likes it so much that he decided it was great the girls drifted apart.
That was probably always the plan. I'm theorizing that when the series started, he had no idea calamity shipping would take off. So, he modified the ending a bit to add the dumb blush thinking that the shippers would praise it.
Instead, what happened is the shippers were led to believe the series would end with the girls becoming closer and spending more time together, and any timeskip would show just that.
I don't think any sashannarcy shipper was under the belief that the girls would ever canonically get together. I do believe that they expected the girls to return to Earth, back to their normal lives, but this time closer, with less toxicity. That way they could just squint and say, "Ah they're totally gay". Rather than what actually happened where you need to bring out the heavy duty /u/ goggles to say the same about the separation.
This is probably what happened. Though I do wonder why Matt wasn't more flexible with how much was changed from the blueprint. The ending really doesn't seem to fit after all the changes.
>I don't think any sashannarcy shipper was under the belief that the girls would ever canonically get together.
I had to deal with buttholes who keep bragging about how it was actually gonna happen and how they genuinely think Sashanne/Marcanne/Sashannarcy were endgame ships. So glad they stopped talking and Matt is forever based for it.
he loves shipping them but we all know deep down that if the frogs were shipped and had wars of the same caliber as the trio instead (Sprivy, Maddivy, Spraddie, Spraddivy), Matt would've definitely gravitated towards that and gave "empathy" there instead of the girls.
No one wants to ship the amphibian characters really. Most people only care about the girls shipping or otherwise. Animals never really stood a chance.
yeah but i'm saying that if people went more towards the froggy route, Matt wouldn't have even considered paying attention to the girls' fruitiness, if there's even hints of that in the first place.
338thPBP
The ending caused an outrage among big and small shippers. And the bi reveal literally changed nothing. Except for separating her from Anne and Marcy even more.
Before the reveal.
>Sasha could be attracted to guys or girls.
After the reveal.
>Sasha could be attracted to guys or girls.
>Before the reveal.
>Sasha could be attracted to girls and only girls.
ftfy. Not surprisingly, there's a sense of implicit biphobia or heterophobia I kept seeing during show's run
>Except for separating her from Anne and Marcy even more.
They're her friends, not potential lovers. Sasha was made bi because her VA is bi.
He also liked this, what's your point?
The girls are like he's daughters. His biggest wish is what any loving father wants, for his children to threeway-gay-marry eachother.
I don't know which is worse, incestgays or cuckgays. Either way, you need to be stopped posthaste.
>are like he's daughters
Polygays are brain damaged.
Unlike Hirsch, he:
-Has a crew he can trust with the art and the writing.
-Doesn't stretch himself by voicing main characters.
-Had a clear beginning and ending in mind when he started.
Unlike Terrace, he:
-Doesn't make a public spectacle of himself.
-Works with/around restrictions put on the show.
-Doesn't have the same bubble of protection she does, so he has to be wise about when to fight and when to concede.
I feel like you guys suck.
I haven't watched every 'Gravity Falls' episode, but I do think both shows are great, but not without flaws.
I think that 'Gravity Falls' did have good coverage, and even if it falls short, it's like reading a book. It's something you can reread again to fill. If I were to recommend that show, it's based on that.
For me, 'Amphibia' was perfectly fine as is, even if there were some things that could have been fleshed out more – for the first two seasons. Season 3 unfortunately felt very uncomfortable in the first half and somewhat poorly paced in the second half. Not to say it was terrible, it wasn't…in isolation. As a cohesive whole, however, it's a poor fit for the rest of the show, which changed irrevocably with "True Colors". It's still a good show, but it's just not perfect.
'The Owl House' isn't complete yet, so it's not a fair comparison. I will say, though, that I feel like it actually has a logic behind each episode. Even if it's formulaic in Season 1, at least there's some sense of competence in the construction of episodes. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, after all. So I expect a brilliant conclusion, like a sturdy house.
>'The Owl House' isn't complete yet, so it's not a fair comparison. I will say, though, that I feel like it actually has a logic behind each episode. Even if it's formulaic in Season 1, at least there's some sense of competence in the construction of episodes. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, after all. So I expect a brilliant conclusion, like a sturdy house.
The the ending comes out worse than Star heh.
Not sure why people rag on season three, it's decent for what it and the show is, a children's cartoon. Many of the criticisms for the first half basically just come off as though people wanted Amphibia to become a melodramatic soap opera like Steven Universe where Anne is constantly crying all the time about Sasha and Marcy.
I'm also not sure what you mean by 3B being poorly paced, it actually was pretty swift because there was slightly less episodes.
At the end it all comes down to 2 issues. YuriBlack folk that expected fuel for their ship and loregays that expected more plot development. What they are simply a d bluntly too stupid to see is that this show was never going to give them that. I started to see the show cause I love the main characters. Anne and the plantars, they are funny and charming, their bond is something just breathtaking to see develop and unfold. I loved season 3a almost as much as I did s1. Honestly i could just keep watching more episodic seasons with them part of the magic is that their time together comes to an end and that even if it was a short time their paths crossed it was something that changed them forever.
>the "it's just a kids' cartoon it doesn't have to be good" cope
Not that they can't be good but kids' cartoons don't tend to be as dramatic and angsty as people's edgy fanfiction. In fact it's pretty normal for the stakes set up from a cliffhanger to settle down immediately in the next season in an animated show so they can continue to have episodic hijinks, it's not really the show's fault but it's what the network wants.
No one forced this show to end a season with a young girl being impaled. They just wanted to be flashy and it is their fault for doing something like that and not following through with consequences. It would be better because more honest if it was something "lighter" like Marcy just being thrown in a cage.
> They just wanted to be flashy and it is their fault for doing something like that and not following through with consequences.
A girl got mindraped and body jacked for the rest of the season, how is that not enough consequence?
>if it was something lighter
It was, Marcy got stabbed in the shoulder in the storyboards, the animation studio made her get stabbed in the chest.
>A girl got mindraped and body jacked for the rest of the season, how is that not enough consequence?
Because it just went away by disconnecting the cord (even though the scene implied the Core had MOVED from a robot body INTO Marcy).
You could still do that if Marcy was just imprisoned, anyway. Getting stabed lead to the line "put her in a healing tube" and nothing else. It didn't even light a fire under Anne to get back to Amphibia.
> Because it just went away by disconnecting the cord
Sure, but before that it fricked up the war plans and made everything more dangerous. If Marcy is just locked up in a prison then Yunnan and Olivia would have saved her, the girls reunite early, and they win the war easily. No tension, no conflict, nothing. Thank god you don’t write for Amphibia because that’s boring.
>If Marcy is just locked up in a prison then Yunnan and Olivia would have saved her
Why? Why wouldn't it just like it was, that they arrive to rescue her but are discovered and witness Marcy being Core'd?
You just said you prefered Marcy was just in a cell, you’re talking nonsense, I’m done with this stupid argument. You’re dumb and wrong.
Thrown into a cell rather than stabbed in "True Colors".
>They just wanted to be flashy and it is their fault for doing something like that and not following through with consequences
I mean Marcy still ends up getting painfully possessed by The Core, which is arguably an even worse fate, Yunan and Olivia was the bleakest episode of the show.
Until he gets a second series that airs he's just as much a failure
Anne is for _______
Sasha is for _______
Marcy is for _______
Sprig
Grime
Suffering
Anne is for Sasha & Marcy.
Sasha is for Anne & Marcy.
Marcy is for Anne & Sasha.
Threesome sex with each other.
I need that Anne cutout for reasons
HE LOOKS LIKE ME
>Succeed
Jesus for a moment I thought that I was in Cinemaphile because this amount of contrarism shouldn't be possible
Imagine trying to draw with Anne constantly looking over your shoulder
Which girl would you frick, marry, or bff?
Frick - Sasha (wild, knows how to throw a party, generally fun to hang out with)
Marry - Anne (can cook, clean, motherlike, homely, will give you the best love you will ever experience)
BFF - Marcy (a nerd, she has the same hobby and interests as I do, she plays video games, watches anime, and reads manga).
calm down, Darrel
Sasha for frick. She is the type of fantasy (blonde, popular, aggressive) so would work for that one lay you never forget but would never work out long term.
Marcy for marry. She just seems so cuddly and sweet, you never want to let go.
Anne for bff. She would throw awesome barbecues and play sports on weekends.
he turned a drag queen and an organization filled with trannies into the main human villain on earth.
its pretty based honestly.
Get to stab a teenage girl
>How does he succeed where Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace fail?
He's protected by the dicky goddess
how many of us will get to live to 2097?
Long enough to see us enter in a Blade Runner era and have hologram e-girls dancing on tad billboards bending over and blowing kisses to anons walking down the street.
>Owlgays and Froggays still fighting over ratings when both of their shows have done terribly
Had the least messy production of any of the 3. Alex took 5 years to do 2 seasons with the terrible way he handled the show behind the scenes, and Dana barely knew what she was doing besides throwing gay rep on screen.
If he plays his cards right he could be making a Disney theatrical movie in a couple of years.
TOH has gay rep but also a much tighter narrative so far, Amphibia wants you to ignore so much moronic arbitrary decisions and pacing issues in order to work. I love them both but you are wrong if you think Amphibia is some beacon of planned long form storytelling because it isn't.
> but also a much tighter narrative so far
Hell no, every plot point is taken out of nowhere, poorly developed, overly dramatic and generic. They put time travel for no fricking reason and tons of other shit they clearly never planned from before. Making shit up as you go is not "tight narrative"
> Amphibia wants you to ignore so much moronic arbitrary decisions and pacing issues in order to work
So is Owl House.
>you are wrong if you think Amphibia is some beacon of planned long form storytelling
It’s not, nobody says it is, you owlgays love to pretend people praise it like Jesus when its biggest fans just call it a cool show, unlike you Owlgays who go so far to think of it like a dark drama and not a kid’s show. Amphibia is flawed but in terms of planned narrative it’s at least way better than owl house due to having a clear vision from the start, compared to Dana fricking over her original premise not even 10 episodes in the show
>Hell no, every plot point is taken out of nowhere, poorly developed, overly dramatic and generic
You are describing Amphibia.
>So is Owl House.
Not really.
> You are describing Amphibia.
No, you can have issues with the story in some parts but the critical plot points clearly were always planned since the start, with the final battle foreshadowed in the opening. There was a plan, you can have issues with the execution, but there was always a clear vision.
>all the owlgay has to say in response is "no u"
They’re getting desperate after that shitty season 2 finale
>Sasha wanted to kill herself out of spite??
>Andrias stabs Marcy because??
>Core downloads itself into Marcy, but still resides in the helmet, but is only connected to the main sphere through a cable, severing the cable releases Marcy but the Core remains the helmet??
>Core offers Andrias to join them while they're plummeting towards suicide??
>prophecy and the other two girls don't matter because last minute asspull??
>Plantars and all the frogs in general simply don't matter at all because??
You literally had 3 seasons to pull out problems from Amphibia and you mentioned a bunch of stuff that has a perfectly good explanation if you actually saw the show and if you had half a brain you wouldn’t question it. Amazing, I gave you a chance and you still fricked it up.
The only legit point you have is the last minute "Anne has to do it alone" bit, but that’s one compared to Owl House doing it like every episode
>a bunch of stuff that has a perfectly good explanation
Explain it then
>Sasha wanted to kill herself out of spite??
Part of her complicated character arc, wouldn’t expect an owlgay to understand that with how bland owl house characters are
>Andrias stabs Marcy because??
Because he’s an evil bastard? Did you not get that from the part he threw a child from a window?
>Core downloads itself into Marcy, but still resides in the helmet, but is only connected to the main sphere through a cable, severing the cable releases Marcy but the Core remains the helmet??
Yes? So? Evil hivemind works in an odd way, is that surprising to you?
>Core offers Andrias to join them while they're plummeting towards suicide??
Evil villain tries to manipulate its sidekick, perfectly normal action for them.
>Plantars and all the frogs in general simply don't matter at all because??
Literally the core of the show, anyone who says the frogs don’t matter is a dumbass. And hey, so are you!
I honestly shouldn’t spoonfed basic information to you, but you like owl house, I guess babies need to be held by their hand.
>it makes sense because.. it just does okay??
Fantastic
>TOH has gay rep but also a much tighter narrative so far
Does it? It's kind of all over the place now.
Not really, it's surprisingly tight knit
So we can all agree no one beside /u/tards are mad at the timeskip?
Pretty much. They only go onto pointing out and search for any inconsistency or discrepancy as if they where reviewing a scientific paper because they got absolutely cucked and keked by based Matt
Why is Sasha so mean, let Anne and Marcy play their games.
It's weird how after repairing their friendship to a healthy state the show immediately skips to them barely seeing each other, which comes off more like the friendship fell apart right away than that it survives in a form
I'm disappointing that it rules out all possibility of a sequel series
No, I hate shiping and I thought it was garbo
No because that factually wrong.
>you just hate it because you're X part of the fandom
pulling a TLJ huh?
He kept his head down and made a show while Dana was "trying to make Disney look good"
>Owlgays still trying to defend a canceled show.
oh yeah the rest of 3B is on D+ today
Yes, are you going to watch it? support the show or die.
Why do we have to engage in tribalism, anyway? Aren't Dana and Matt close friends?
The real question is why didn't they work together on each other's shows?
It would be career suicide for Matt if he touched Fowl House
>The real question is why didn't they work together on each other's shows?
Because they wanted to make their own shows? Though Matt did help with the Molly McGee crew on the Thai rep and apparently helped them form their own art book like he did with Amphibia (which Disney is sitting on).
Because he put rape in his cartoon. That's what caused him to win in the end.
Nice /trash/ tier thread Disneygays
Owlgays are a special breed. They're just as delusional as Dana but more autistic than Luz and Marcy combined.
All memes aside Matt is a decent human being that seems to be well liked by his peers whereas Dana and Alex threw massive hissy fits that got the company against them. Alex is purportedly a gross dude that pees in trashcans in plain view of his coworkers
>How does he succeed where Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace fail?
Unique lore
Unique character
Never watched Amphibia, but I'm going to assume that he didn't force the plot to take a backseat to shipper pandering like GF and TOH did.
Did GF do that?
>GF
>shipper pandering
where?
>How does he succeed where Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace fail?
He is a man, and he did not over-exert himself
Hirsch and Terrace had poor leadership and time management skills respectively.
Hirsch's main problem was his procrastination, his alcoholism, and his pride( tries to do everything by himself, biting the hand the feeds him).
Dana is a bit more of a train wreck
when's that new interview? last episodes are now on D+, seems like a good time to release it
Well I think it was said it would be "a week" 7 days ago, so it could be popping whenever today
Alex spent too much time nitpicking his co-workers and getting into fights with S&P over using words like poopface, after he took his ball and went home he realized he couldn't live without being the center of attention so he tried to weasel his way back into DTVA with disastrous results. Dana was her own worst enemy and couldn't stop taking private business matters onto public spaces like twitter, its honestly a small miracle she even lasted as long as she did.
Mutt almost allowed himself to get roped into their bullshit, but he either smartened up or bugged out, and ultimately didn't do anything too crazy like use his characters to support abortion. They were overreacting about the True Colors leak (which maybe.... 1000 people saw total lol) and almost influenced him into self destruction. Alex and Dana were his Sasha and Marcy, except they never stopped being toxic "friends".
I think he was right to be pissed off about True Colors, they really bungled that one
>taking corporate wiener and not complaining gud
>speaking out against corporate bullshit bad
What the frick happened to this place
I really, really hope Matt does another show and doesn't just follow after Alex and make nothing
He succeeded because you coomers gobbled up his nepotism in form of his talentless barely comprehensible mom being his """""milf"""" character.
The truth is GF was a decent series and Hirsh was ok by that point. It's better that he ended the series at the point where he already run out of ideas instead of dragging it into complete shit. S2 Was already getting average at best.
Then Hirsch started to act like a moron and fame got into his head while he started using it for banging women from his job. His ego just showed up its ugly head, simple as that.
With Dana I can just say it feels like she didn't have a plan and constantly butted heads with execs, unable to stand her ground. It didn't help she focused more on shipping than telling a story and she will be known just from doing 'that lesbian show'. She seems like a person with good ideas for character concept art and some world-building but not someone who should be in charge, and thus she failed to keep her project from getting sidetracked.
Feels like Amphibia was simply most 'by the book' and that saved it. Aside from atrocious S3a that was just culture wank and showcase of nepotism. And the very dumb choice of stepping back from killing Anne that is replaced with a clone which basically means she simply died and got replaced by a doppelganger with her memories.
>And the very dumb choice of stepping back from killing Anne that is replaced with a clone which basically means she simply died and got replaced by a doppelganger with her memories.
Well it got people talking about it at least
Talking about how bad it is
>she will be known just from doing 'that lesbian show'
Funny because it has both the best relationship and the best serialized narrative of any cartoon in recent memory
>And the very dumb choice of stepping back from killing Anne that is replaced with a clone which basically means she simply died and got replaced by a doppelganger with her memories.
What would have been better?
anne not dying and the girls defeating the core together with the power of friendship
Sometimes the simple solution is best.
Post ideas for a GF/A/OH crossover
Eda and Grunkle Stan make out
I think my favorite thing is that it gets far, far worse the longer it lasts.
Oh definitely
Its like watching a continuous series of car crashes
oh no not the n-word...
Negrito
do another ama please
probably after the Journal releases in November so there can be no more "spoilers"
>you guys want that polly spinoff righ-
>Alex failed
>GF is still among the top cartoons of last decade and build the foundation(along with AT) for serialized, lore heavy shows
meanwhile Matt couldn't make his mind on whether he wanted an episodic SOL show or an adventure one which lead to a civil war in the fanbase, and let's not get started with how self-indulgence with his checklist and anime to the point it tanked the final episodes
GF wasn't a failure, but it'd be disingenuous to ignore that Alex burnt himself out and burned a lot of bridges and, as a result, the show really struggled to try and stick the landing.
Alex had literally the best opportunities in life an animator could ask for after GF, and he failed to capitalize on every single one. This month is his show's 10 year anniversary and he still hasn't produced a second of content in the meantime which is ridiculous. To think the showrunner role also landed in his lap, he's the luckiest motherfricker in western animation and ended up doing nothing with it.
By this logic we should hate Antonucci as well
I never said we should hate Alex, just that he's squandering his opportunities others would've killed for, same goes for Antonucci but he was at least working on stuff that fell through.
So you're jealous.
Who wouldn't be? It's like being poor and watching wealthy heirs burn money.
He doesn't have to make another cartoon if he doesn't WANT to.
Between Gravity Falls, Amphibia, and TOH, GF was the most successful cartoon.
But he clearly wanted to, otherwise he wouldn't have kept teasing shit over the last 6+ years
Gravity Falls had room for improvement, especially since he would have his hands untied after proving himself
We should all strive to be like Genndy anyway, Dexter's Lab didn't stop him from trying to top himself
No. He literally said he wasn't going to do more than two seasons of the show.
If there was ever any thought to making another series, it may have crossed his mind to continue the show in a full-fledged sequel or spin-off, instead of shorts, it may just be that he simply had trouble conceptualizing an entirely new, show-length story. He's made short series and little stories throughout the years.
If he had a sequel in mind, Disney would greenlight it. Point stands. Alex Hirsch was the most successful of the three.
I'm not talking about continuing GF, but all the new network deals he kept boasting about, Fox, Netflix etc, which haven't produced even a single piece of concept art in more than half a decade
The trouble with creators who wind up making their fricking magnum opus right out of the gate is that they've got nowhere to go but down. Look at the guys who did Avatar - they made a fricking amazing series and have spent the last 20 years trying (and failing) to recreate their success.
Would you really want the same from Alex? A bunch of shameless attempts to try and recreate the lightning in a bottle that was GF?
Well, the manlet did produce SOME content.... he aired out some ground level S&P worker's business all over twitter, which got him his usual annual clout dicksucking fest from other now unemployed hacks in the industry like Ian JQ and Rebecca Sugar, while the people with actual jobs like the Molly crew called him an butthole.
I under understand why you'd air private communications like that in public. Why burn bridges so completely and utterly?
I'm tired of that wishy washy bastard.
What is Anne going to do with baby Sasha?
**Boobchuy**