It's the size of a moon, so it would have gravity.
Also you might want to look back at every single scene inside a spaceship - including the death star itself - to notice if there's gravity. Spoiler alert: there is.
The surface of a moon appears flat if you're standing on it. We never saw the corridors down near the core, we only saw the ones toward the outer surface, near the docking bay.
>It's the size of a moon, so it would have gravity.
It's only 120-160km diameter, that's large asteroid size, or the size of some of Saturn's tiny moons. The gravity would be very negligible, like 0.005g.
I forgot about that scene. And we do see the corridors curving around, like in a rounded off building. So I guess it's left. Someone has probably already come up with a reason why, not that it matters. Space wizardry doesn't really demand technical explanations.
>And we do see the corridors curving around, like in a rounded off building.
Not to mention explosions from laser fire on the surface directly exploding the walls in those curved corridors that are on the outer edges to confirm the direct connection between the curved areas and the outer walls.
If only the rebels had realized all they had to do was seize control of maneuvering thrusters to spin the thing like a top. They could have made everyone inside go splat, and (after the cleanup crews were finished) had a shiny new superweapon at their disposal.
If only the rebels had realized all they had to do was seize control of maneuvering thrusters to spin the thing like a top. They could have made everyone inside go splat, and (after the cleanup crews were finished) had a shiny new superweapon at their disposal.
I think you are all seriously over-estimating the degree of curvature that overlaps in both these cases.
Imagine the comfy of being stationed as a gunner in some quiet surface section of the death star
Very small chance that any rebelgays would fly above your particular tiny section of the station let alone fire at you specifically
>Tells a dad joke in a physics moronation bot thread on Cinemaphile
Your art is lost on these fools.
This some new spectrum of genders or something what am I looking at.
...yes. Essentially correct.
hth op
Mach principle enjoyer
I wonder if they had any fun open air areas for rest and relaxtion of the troops?
wiener principle enjoyer
>Sustained acceleration is also necessary to get anywhere in the solar system in a reasonable amount of time because space is fricking HUGE.
did you not read that part? If they need to get up to a high velocity soon so they can decrease the time to some location, they need higher than 1G for some time period
>ignores the density and composition of space
You're going to have a very short and unenjoyable ftl experiment
expanse will say out loud that there is artificial gravity generated on the ships but the end result is exactly the same as Star Wars. every ship has one gravity direction throughout. if there was a Death Star in The Expanse it would function the same as the ones in Star Wars. the only functional difference is that in Expanse the gravity can be turned off at times.
are you saying gravity in Expanse is based on acceleration? because that would be pants on head moronic, see
gravity requires acceleration. you are getting acceleration confused with velocity. your artificial gravity would only work while the ship is speeding up, not while it's still, not while it's traveling at top speed, and it would invert as the ship slows down!
That's exactly how it works. Whenever ships travel in the Expanse, they're constantly accelerating until halfway through their trip, at which point they flip and burn in the opposite direction so they slow down to a safe speed when they reach their destination. Gravity is gone when they're not under thrust. Flipping quickly puts a lot of Gs on the body so they require crash couches and drugs to handle it.
The show is more loose with it, ignoring hair and using magnetic boots cause simulating zero G is expensive on the VFX department but the books regularly describe the characters floating around the ship or changing the amount of gravity they're under based on thrust.
>are you saying gravity in Expanse is based on acceleration?
Yes, that's why they have to flip the ship halfway through a journey. The sci-fi technology that enables long-distance space travel in The Expanse is fusion-powered boosters that can accelerate enough to generate like 70% of Earth's gravity in force or something like that. Any time that they're sticking to the floor without the ship accelerating it's through the use of magnetic boots.
Star Wars has artificial gravity. Repulsors are artificial gravity generators that can either allow stuff to float or "fly" or pull things down. The fighters in SW "fly" using repulsors when in a gravity field, not via aerodynamic lift.
gravity requires acceleration. you are getting acceleration confused with velocity. your artificial gravity would only work while the ship is speeding up, not while it's still, not while it's traveling at top speed, and it would invert as the ship slows down!
so whenever the passengers aren't locked in their chairs with the "juice" (?) injections the acceleration is exactly 1G? that's still pretty moronic. I also don't remember the turning around at the half-way mark ever being shown. I do remember them losing and gaining back gravity a bunch of times but it wasn't to turn around the ship momentarily. I really don't believe they stuck to this concept for the majority of space travel, if even a significant fraction at all.
> the acceleration is exactly 1G?
No, it's lower G than that but it's enough that they don't float around. People who are born and raised in space in The Expanse turn into fragile lanklets unless they get expensive gene therapy because they never experience full Earth gravity. >I also don't remember the turning around at the half-way mark ever being shown.
It's shown many times throughout the series including within the first couple episodes.
why is the syfy logo so far over? it looks like the right spot if you were watching on an old 4:3 tv with the edges cropped off, but that's moronic
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Because they used to still do SD broadcasts for people with SDTVs and that way they only needed to crop the signal rather than broadcast everything separately with separate logo editing.
>so whenever the passengers aren't locked in their chairs with the "juice" (?) injections the acceleration is exactly 1G?
1G, 0.7G, 0.3G, it's variable depending on what the crew think is comfortable. Only Earthers are comfortable with living in 1G, Martians train in it for the sake of war but prefer lesser gravity. All you need to do to change it is change the amount of thrust. >I also don't remember the turning around at the half-way mark ever being shown
Very first episode, when they all lock into their crash couches and take the 'juice', which is a wienertail of adrenaline, blood thinners, blood vessel reinforcers, shit to make the body ready to handle a whole lot of weight being put on it, and to keep people from going unconscious. Other flip and burn maneuvers are done during combat in later episodes, and at one point they show off the gravity changing directions from maneuvers when a bunch of tools fly loose and bounce around the cabin. >I do remember them losing and gaining back gravity a bunch of times
Any time the ship is no longer under thrust, gravity is gone. Taking out a ship's engine will do that.
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it's slowly coming back to me now. yeah, I never bought the juice thing. doesn't make sense. they can only accelerate at 0.7G for normal travel BUT they can accelerate at many Gs for a brief period, creating the need for juice? huh? if the engines are capable of creating more than 0.7G why not just create 1G for longer? why not create 1.5G or some arbitrary number that is found to be tolerable?
also I just remembered that time they showed the inventor of the alcubiere (?) drive dying to his own invention as he was discovering it. or rather they showed 90% of that and then the whole plot point was just dropped and never picked back up. we didn't see him dying, we didn't see anyone else realizing what he had done etc. that episode was horrible. I still feel robbed just thinking about it.
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>if the engines are capable of creating more than 0.7G why not just create 1G for longer
Because sometimes you want to accelerate at a rate faster than 9.81 m/s^2 (which is 1G), such as for example if you want to get somewhere more quickly, or if you want to perform fast maneuvers.
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>Because sometimes you want to accelerate at a rate faster
right, so do that the whole way instead of doing it punctually, putting a huge strain on the crew then. duh. don't go 0.7G most of the way and then pull a needlessly quick turn. go 1.2Gs (for example) the entire time and never take the juice.
I get that you might have to pull an emergency maneuver because circumstances change, but that would ONLY apply to sudden escape or pursuit situations. it would not apply to a bunch of situations where in The Expanse they "burned" outside of any imminent danger and used juice for it and had fricking nose bleeds and aneurysms and whatnot.
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>if the engines are capable of creating more than 0.7G why not just create 1G for longer? why not create 1.5G or some arbitrary number that is found to be tolerable?
Depending on need, they do this. I don't think it's mentioned as much in the show but in the books they'll strap into their couches for hours at a time for higher G burns, then reduce acceleration for a short period to eat meals, walk around, etc. Another thing that happens is chasing down Belter pirates by going above the speed that belters can endure for longer.
Sustained 1G acceleration can be WAY faster than you imagine. It starts slowly but gains speed gradually then exponentially and then logarithmicly. With a fuel source capable of constantly accelerating the ship it would be on the other end of the galaxy within 50 years. From the outside, due to time dilation, the journey would take many millions of years.
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okay great so then we don't need to burn at all and we all stay healthy. I can accept that. why couldn't the writer(s)?
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The moment you stop burning is the moment you stop accelerating and then you don't have gravity. Sustained acceleration is also necessary to get anywhere in the solar system in a reasonable amount of time because space is fricking HUGE. In the books it's made clear that traveling between planets takes weeks even with their super powerful sci-fi fusion engines that can sustain such incredible acceleration/deceleration.
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still not hearing a reason for acceleration above 1G outside of combat.
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Huh? It shouldn't be. When did I say it should?
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>Sustained acceleration is also necessary to get anywhere in the solar system in a reasonable amount of time because space is fricking HUGE.
did you not read that part? If they need to get up to a high velocity soon so they can decrease the time to some location, they need higher than 1G for some time period
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What happens if you hit something at that speeds?
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It would be extremely painful
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it really wouldn't be if you think about it.
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for you
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For the traveler, it's a bug on a windshield. For the windshield, it depends on how big the bug is, but there's not gonna be much left of the windshield.
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No windshield would mean a very unhappy traveller, hardly a bug.
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Lmao, I meant the traveler would be the bug, but you aren't wrong
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Orion pulse drive running on antimatter with a hydrogen collector/antimatter generator is all technically possible with our current tech tree. Frick the nuclear test ban treaty, I wanna see if there's ayoos in Proxima Centauri!
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You just can't help yourself can yew?
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How do propose to avoid exploding your Bussard from a tiny dust speck at close to lightspeed? Hell, how do you propose to avoid being turned to dust in a couple weeks from simple colission with subatomic particles? Plus, I don't really know how much hydrogen ions are in the interstellar medium but I expect you'd need a pretty big scoop to get the planet sized quantity of mass you'd need to anihilate to get the time dilation you're speaking about. Even more so since antimatter creation is by necessity a netn energy loss, you'd be better off just fusionnig that hydrogen off
> the acceleration is exactly 1G?
No, it's lower G than that but it's enough that they don't float around. People who are born and raised in space in The Expanse turn into fragile lanklets unless they get expensive gene therapy because they never experience full Earth gravity. >I also don't remember the turning around at the half-way mark ever being shown.
It's shown many times throughout the series including within the first couple episodes.
They DO float around. Plenty of times they turn off the engines completely and it's 0G.
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I was saying that the acceleration is not 1G but still enough to prevent them from floating WHILE UNDER ACCELERATION, not that no one ever floats around for any reason.
It can't be like that because of how we see the Millennium Falcon land in the Death Star's hangar bay. The hangar entrances are on the equator of the Death Star and they face outward into space. This implies the floor is parallel with the equator and all other floors are parallel with that floor.
>This implies the floor is parallel with the equator and all other floors are parallel with that floor.
no it doesn't, there's half a dozen plausible explanations, feel free to write out a couple because i'm not in the mood for your flavor of autism (it's boring, you all sound the same)
Yep. GladOS even says, "Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out." There's no reason to expect the speed of the portal to be transferred to the object going into it. That doesn't make any sense.
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Velocity is relative. From the point of view relative to portal B, the cube is flying towards it at high speed same as if it was launched towards it.
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If climb onto the roof and drop a window frame onto a bowling ball below will the ball go flying into the air as it passes the frame?
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The block is not in motion, what force could a traveling portal impart into the block to turn its potential energy to kinetic?
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Everything is in motion relative to something else. The block is absolutely in motion from the perspective of Portal B. It sees it flying at it at high speed whether it's because a platform is flying towards the box or the box was launched at it. Same thing.
So if they had artificial gravity in the middle (let's say it is stronger than its regular gravity I guess), would the people on the bottom be upside down to the people on the top? If not I guess it'd have to be at the bottom middle part. Either way though wouldn't that cause weird gravitational effects? If it was at the bottom wouldn't the officers at the top have significantly less gravity? And the middle would mean the gravity would be pulling you diagonally more and more as you walked to the edge.
If a TIE fighter has artificial gravity, presumably they've got some fricky wucky sci-fi tech that allows for gravity sources to start and stop at very specific lengths, aka per-floor. This is the same galaxy that has tech that lets them fly across the galaxy in a couple days
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how did they go up floors then? Wouldn't that squish your head or something
Every floor has equal gravity in the same direction and it's exactly the same gravity as Earth. The space ships are the same. All planets also have the same gravity as Earth. Also space has gravity and air resistance so that flying fighters in space is exactly like flying planes on Earth during World War 2.
thats not how earths gravity works. we live on the outer crust of earth. also there wasnt gravity in space either I saw the ships going all whichaway
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>thats not how earths gravity works.
I mean it's the same gravity strength as Earth. > there wasnt gravity in space either I saw the ships going all whichaway
Every ship only moves in the direction its main engines push and all maneuvers are performed as if by a plane in Earth's atmosphere. If the engines give out, the ship crashes. There are no other thrusters that allow ships to move in any way except the direction the main engines push. It's space so they can adjust to fly in any direction but the ship has to point its nose that way and can't just move arbitrarily. This is how all Star Wars space battles are choreographed.
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>thats not how earths gravity works
but it is how star wars gravity works
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TIE Fighters don't even have life support. It's an engine with thrusters, plus guns, radar and controls.
Every floor has equal gravity in the same direction and it's exactly the same gravity as Earth. The space ships are the same. All planets also have the same gravity as Earth. Also space has gravity and air resistance so that flying fighters in space is exactly like flying planes on Earth during World War 2.
THE DEATH STAR HAS A MAGIC POWER REACTOR THAT MAKES GRAVITY HAPPEN. THAT’S IT. NO JAMES CAMERON ROTATION RING OR CENTRIFUGE OR COMPLEX DESIGN, IT’S A HUGE SPACE BUILDING AND THAT’S IT.
>one of the few instances where the canon section has more moronic bullshit in it than the legends section
Apparently in canon this thing was named Omi, was a girl, and was fully intelligent and force-sensitive. Also it wasn't trying to eat Luke, just "baptize" him. >After rescuing Princess Leia Organa aboard the Death Star, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Luke Skywalker were temporarily stranded[5] inside garbage masher 3263827,[7] in the year 0 BBY.[2] Enacting the belief of her people, Omi pulled Skywalker into the water, "baptizing" him, after she felt that he too was in "submission to It," and letting him go shortly thereafter.[1] As the compression cycle was about to start, the dianoga disappeared deep underwater.[5] When Luke Skywalker escaped the trash compactor unharmed, Omi sensed that he would go on to do great things.[1] >Before the Death Star's destruction, Omi continued to develop in her submission to "It," being able to telepathically lift objects into the air. When her vision was fulfilled, and the Death Star was destroyed, she pondered what she would be in the next life.
Due to special relativity, the relativistic time dilation experienced by a proton traveling at this speed would be extreme. If the proton originated from a distance of 1.5 billion light years, it would take approximately 1.71 days in the reference frame of the proton to travel that distance.
Imagine traveling 1.5bln light years in under two days.
How does what works?
Death Star
It’s a fictional ship
It’s not a ship. It’s a space station.
You are a man with autism
It's no moon, that's for sure.
unless its orbiting a larger Celstial body like it did before blowing up Alderaan.
Space station, not moon
Until entering orbit
Then end comes in green
Yeah but how does it work?
It doesn't, it's fictional
In space, there is no gravity you see, so neither of the two examples apply.
It's the size of a moon, so it would have gravity.
Also you might want to look back at every single scene inside a spaceship - including the death star itself - to notice if there's gravity. Spoiler alert: there is.
it's also flat
The surface of a moon appears flat if you're standing on it. We never saw the corridors down near the core, we only saw the ones toward the outer surface, near the docking bay.
>It's the size of a moon, so it would have gravity.
It's only 120-160km diameter, that's large asteroid size, or the size of some of Saturn's tiny moons. The gravity would be very negligible, like 0.005g.
well why didn't you fricking say that you goddamn sperg
Circles of hell.
left is stupid on so many levels. literally and figuratively.
The answer is left.
I forgot about that scene. And we do see the corridors curving around, like in a rounded off building. So I guess it's left. Someone has probably already come up with a reason why, not that it matters. Space wizardry doesn't really demand technical explanations.
>And we do see the corridors curving around, like in a rounded off building.
Not to mention explosions from laser fire on the surface directly exploding the walls in those curved corridors that are on the outer edges to confirm the direct connection between the curved areas and the outer walls.
If only the rebels had realized all they had to do was seize control of maneuvering thrusters to spin the thing like a top. They could have made everyone inside go splat, and (after the cleanup crews were finished) had a shiny new superweapon at their disposal.
Imagine if the earth rotated. We'd be flung into space.
>Imagine if the earth rotated at double it's current speed
ftfy
You dimwit. the station's gravity is pulling along its rotation axis, not toward it. Any knuckledragger can figure that out from watching the movie.
I think you are all seriously over-estimating the degree of curvature that overlaps in both these cases.
I think you are all discussing this entirely too much. I am going to go finish building my red/blue deck like an adult.
Imagine the comfy of being stationed as a gunner in some quiet surface section of the death star
Very small chance that any rebelgays would fly above your particular tiny section of the station let alone fire at you specifically
and then you die when it blows up
>Tells a dad joke in a physics moronation bot thread on Cinemaphile
Your art is lost on these fools.
...yes. Essentially correct.
Mach principle enjoyer
wiener principle enjoyer
>ignores the density and composition of space
You're going to have a very short and unenjoyable ftl experiment
it's left. anyone that says right is an absolute buffoon.
This some new spectrum of genders or something what am I looking at.
left
too small to be like right
star wars doesnt care about gravity. if you want something that cares about gravity and acceleration then watch the expanse
expanse will say out loud that there is artificial gravity generated on the ships but the end result is exactly the same as Star Wars. every ship has one gravity direction throughout. if there was a Death Star in The Expanse it would function the same as the ones in Star Wars. the only functional difference is that in Expanse the gravity can be turned off at times.
You uh... REALLY didn't pay attention in The Expanse. AT ALL.
are you saying gravity in Expanse is based on acceleration? because that would be pants on head moronic, see
That's exactly how it works. Whenever ships travel in the Expanse, they're constantly accelerating until halfway through their trip, at which point they flip and burn in the opposite direction so they slow down to a safe speed when they reach their destination. Gravity is gone when they're not under thrust. Flipping quickly puts a lot of Gs on the body so they require crash couches and drugs to handle it.
The show is more loose with it, ignoring hair and using magnetic boots cause simulating zero G is expensive on the VFX department but the books regularly describe the characters floating around the ship or changing the amount of gravity they're under based on thrust.
>are you saying gravity in Expanse is based on acceleration?
Yes, that's why they have to flip the ship halfway through a journey. The sci-fi technology that enables long-distance space travel in The Expanse is fusion-powered boosters that can accelerate enough to generate like 70% of Earth's gravity in force or something like that. Any time that they're sticking to the floor without the ship accelerating it's through the use of magnetic boots.
wrong. ship gravity in the expanse is only when the ship is under acceleration.
Star Wars has artificial gravity. Repulsors are artificial gravity generators that can either allow stuff to float or "fly" or pull things down. The fighters in SW "fly" using repulsors when in a gravity field, not via aerodynamic lift.
It works the same way as the turrets on the falcon,
left. gravity is not a problem in star wars
Top or Bottom?
obviously top
jfc
its obviously supposes to be the top because that top part of the ship is the command tower, like a battle ship
the expanse does it like the bottom
because thats how acceleration actually works
>acceleration
Inertial dampeners make this moot
you're a moron for even suggesting bottom.
Without “artificial gravity” or whatever the bottom would be the most realistic.
Top is the only one that makes sense given how their hangar works.
because of space magic artificial gravity, its top
but if it used real science artificial gravity, it would need to be bottom
gravity requires acceleration. you are getting acceleration confused with velocity. your artificial gravity would only work while the ship is speeding up, not while it's still, not while it's traveling at top speed, and it would invert as the ship slows down!
the ships accelerate towards their destination for half the trip then flip and decelerate for the second half
this is explained in episode 1 you fricking chodes
so whenever the passengers aren't locked in their chairs with the "juice" (?) injections the acceleration is exactly 1G? that's still pretty moronic. I also don't remember the turning around at the half-way mark ever being shown. I do remember them losing and gaining back gravity a bunch of times but it wasn't to turn around the ship momentarily. I really don't believe they stuck to this concept for the majority of space travel, if even a significant fraction at all.
> the acceleration is exactly 1G?
No, it's lower G than that but it's enough that they don't float around. People who are born and raised in space in The Expanse turn into fragile lanklets unless they get expensive gene therapy because they never experience full Earth gravity.
>I also don't remember the turning around at the half-way mark ever being shown.
It's shown many times throughout the series including within the first couple episodes.
literally like 20 minutes into the first episode
why is the syfy logo so far over? it looks like the right spot if you were watching on an old 4:3 tv with the edges cropped off, but that's moronic
Because they used to still do SD broadcasts for people with SDTVs and that way they only needed to crop the signal rather than broadcast everything separately with separate logo editing.
>so whenever the passengers aren't locked in their chairs with the "juice" (?) injections the acceleration is exactly 1G?
1G, 0.7G, 0.3G, it's variable depending on what the crew think is comfortable. Only Earthers are comfortable with living in 1G, Martians train in it for the sake of war but prefer lesser gravity. All you need to do to change it is change the amount of thrust.
>I also don't remember the turning around at the half-way mark ever being shown
Very first episode, when they all lock into their crash couches and take the 'juice', which is a wienertail of adrenaline, blood thinners, blood vessel reinforcers, shit to make the body ready to handle a whole lot of weight being put on it, and to keep people from going unconscious. Other flip and burn maneuvers are done during combat in later episodes, and at one point they show off the gravity changing directions from maneuvers when a bunch of tools fly loose and bounce around the cabin.
>I do remember them losing and gaining back gravity a bunch of times
Any time the ship is no longer under thrust, gravity is gone. Taking out a ship's engine will do that.
it's slowly coming back to me now. yeah, I never bought the juice thing. doesn't make sense. they can only accelerate at 0.7G for normal travel BUT they can accelerate at many Gs for a brief period, creating the need for juice? huh? if the engines are capable of creating more than 0.7G why not just create 1G for longer? why not create 1.5G or some arbitrary number that is found to be tolerable?
also I just remembered that time they showed the inventor of the alcubiere (?) drive dying to his own invention as he was discovering it. or rather they showed 90% of that and then the whole plot point was just dropped and never picked back up. we didn't see him dying, we didn't see anyone else realizing what he had done etc. that episode was horrible. I still feel robbed just thinking about it.
>if the engines are capable of creating more than 0.7G why not just create 1G for longer
Because sometimes you want to accelerate at a rate faster than 9.81 m/s^2 (which is 1G), such as for example if you want to get somewhere more quickly, or if you want to perform fast maneuvers.
>Because sometimes you want to accelerate at a rate faster
right, so do that the whole way instead of doing it punctually, putting a huge strain on the crew then. duh. don't go 0.7G most of the way and then pull a needlessly quick turn. go 1.2Gs (for example) the entire time and never take the juice.
I get that you might have to pull an emergency maneuver because circumstances change, but that would ONLY apply to sudden escape or pursuit situations. it would not apply to a bunch of situations where in The Expanse they "burned" outside of any imminent danger and used juice for it and had fricking nose bleeds and aneurysms and whatnot.
>if the engines are capable of creating more than 0.7G why not just create 1G for longer? why not create 1.5G or some arbitrary number that is found to be tolerable?
Depending on need, they do this. I don't think it's mentioned as much in the show but in the books they'll strap into their couches for hours at a time for higher G burns, then reduce acceleration for a short period to eat meals, walk around, etc. Another thing that happens is chasing down Belter pirates by going above the speed that belters can endure for longer.
Sustained 1G acceleration can be WAY faster than you imagine. It starts slowly but gains speed gradually then exponentially and then logarithmicly. With a fuel source capable of constantly accelerating the ship it would be on the other end of the galaxy within 50 years. From the outside, due to time dilation, the journey would take many millions of years.
okay great so then we don't need to burn at all and we all stay healthy. I can accept that. why couldn't the writer(s)?
The moment you stop burning is the moment you stop accelerating and then you don't have gravity. Sustained acceleration is also necessary to get anywhere in the solar system in a reasonable amount of time because space is fricking HUGE. In the books it's made clear that traveling between planets takes weeks even with their super powerful sci-fi fusion engines that can sustain such incredible acceleration/deceleration.
still not hearing a reason for acceleration above 1G outside of combat.
Huh? It shouldn't be. When did I say it should?
>Sustained acceleration is also necessary to get anywhere in the solar system in a reasonable amount of time because space is fricking HUGE.
did you not read that part? If they need to get up to a high velocity soon so they can decrease the time to some location, they need higher than 1G for some time period
What happens if you hit something at that speeds?
It would be extremely painful
it really wouldn't be if you think about it.
for you
For the traveler, it's a bug on a windshield. For the windshield, it depends on how big the bug is, but there's not gonna be much left of the windshield.
No windshield would mean a very unhappy traveller, hardly a bug.
Lmao, I meant the traveler would be the bug, but you aren't wrong
Orion pulse drive running on antimatter with a hydrogen collector/antimatter generator is all technically possible with our current tech tree. Frick the nuclear test ban treaty, I wanna see if there's ayoos in Proxima Centauri!
You just can't help yourself can yew?
How do propose to avoid exploding your Bussard from a tiny dust speck at close to lightspeed? Hell, how do you propose to avoid being turned to dust in a couple weeks from simple colission with subatomic particles? Plus, I don't really know how much hydrogen ions are in the interstellar medium but I expect you'd need a pretty big scoop to get the planet sized quantity of mass you'd need to anihilate to get the time dilation you're speaking about. Even more so since antimatter creation is by necessity a netn energy loss, you'd be better off just fusionnig that hydrogen off
They DO float around. Plenty of times they turn off the engines completely and it's 0G.
I was saying that the acceleration is not 1G but still enough to prevent them from floating WHILE UNDER ACCELERATION, not that no one ever floats around for any reason.
I don't know why this made me burst out laughing. It's the fricking top one.
Top
I know because this ship was in the space levels in Star Wars Battlefront 2,
Top.
Source: DK Incredible Cross Sections and my Space Engineers build
Even without artificial gravity, the Death Star would use left so that gravity could be created through thrust when the station is on the move.
Both
lol, anon, the Death Star is flat, didn't you watch the trench run - there's no curvature!
>there's no curvature!
wtf
hth op
The death star can't spin cause it needs to aim the superlaser.
you spin the crewed levels
Huh, that would be an interesting design.
the super laser is on the axis of rotation
It can't be like that because of how we see the Millennium Falcon land in the Death Star's hangar bay. The hangar entrances are on the equator of the Death Star and they face outward into space. This implies the floor is parallel with the equator and all other floors are parallel with that floor.
>This implies the floor is parallel with the equator and all other floors are parallel with that floor.
no it doesn't, there's half a dozen plausible explanations, feel free to write out a couple because i'm not in the mood for your flavor of autism (it's boring, you all sound the same)
>hanger bay is flat
>laser beam rooms are flat
>that means death star floors are round
bet you're a fricking btard as well
It's A.
Yep. GladOS even says, "Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out." There's no reason to expect the speed of the portal to be transferred to the object going into it. That doesn't make any sense.
Velocity is relative. From the point of view relative to portal B, the cube is flying towards it at high speed same as if it was launched towards it.
If climb onto the roof and drop a window frame onto a bowling ball below will the ball go flying into the air as it passes the frame?
The block is not in motion, what force could a traveling portal impart into the block to turn its potential energy to kinetic?
Everything is in motion relative to something else. The block is absolutely in motion from the perspective of Portal B. It sees it flying at it at high speed whether it's because a platform is flying towards the box or the box was launched at it. Same thing.
B-itches utterly and irrevocably BTFO. Us ChAds keep on winning
I'm putting an end to this.
B gays know it's true but their contrarian nature won't let them admit it.
Here's some official art that shows the orientation of the floors if you're too dumb to extrapolate from what's shown in the movies.
Imagine the logistics
there are many elevators through the floors, theyre just not shown there
shut up and eat your carbohydrate stick
>Emperor thinks he's at the top, but he doesn't know I'm flying upside down so he's at the bottom hehe
Palpatine's gonna FREAK!
Upside down doesn't really apply in space
It does in Star War
So if they had artificial gravity in the middle (let's say it is stronger than its regular gravity I guess), would the people on the bottom be upside down to the people on the top? If not I guess it'd have to be at the bottom middle part. Either way though wouldn't that cause weird gravitational effects? If it was at the bottom wouldn't the officers at the top have significantly less gravity? And the middle would mean the gravity would be pulling you diagonally more and more as you walked to the edge.
If a TIE fighter has artificial gravity, presumably they've got some fricky wucky sci-fi tech that allows for gravity sources to start and stop at very specific lengths, aka per-floor. This is the same galaxy that has tech that lets them fly across the galaxy in a couple days
how did they go up floors then? Wouldn't that squish your head or something
thats not how earths gravity works. we live on the outer crust of earth. also there wasnt gravity in space either I saw the ships going all whichaway
>thats not how earths gravity works.
I mean it's the same gravity strength as Earth.
> there wasnt gravity in space either I saw the ships going all whichaway
Every ship only moves in the direction its main engines push and all maneuvers are performed as if by a plane in Earth's atmosphere. If the engines give out, the ship crashes. There are no other thrusters that allow ships to move in any way except the direction the main engines push. It's space so they can adjust to fly in any direction but the ship has to point its nose that way and can't just move arbitrarily. This is how all Star Wars space battles are choreographed.
>thats not how earths gravity works
but it is how star wars gravity works
TIE Fighters don't even have life support. It's an engine with thrusters, plus guns, radar and controls.
Every floor has equal gravity in the same direction and it's exactly the same gravity as Earth. The space ships are the same. All planets also have the same gravity as Earth. Also space has gravity and air resistance so that flying fighters in space is exactly like flying planes on Earth during World War 2.
Each deck would have its own artificial gravity generators, presumably in the floor.
No because Star Wars isn't science fiction
did that hole have to fricking be there
Yes, it's a cargo elevator for loading and unloading ships.
put some rail around that thing, jesus
Oh you want The Empire to just go around putting rails all over the place? You have any idea what that would cost?
Being the Empire means you no longer have to follow OSHA
No guard rails no warning signs just disposable clone troopers living in the moment
Those aren't clone troopers. They're regular humans employed by the Empire's jobs program. Even Luke was tempted to join.
A fair number of them are clones. Vader's personal legion was still made of veteran clone troopers even in the OT era.
I wonder if they had any fun open air areas for rest and relaxtion of the troops?
THE DEATH STAR HAS A MAGIC POWER REACTOR THAT MAKES GRAVITY HAPPEN. THAT’S IT. NO JAMES CAMERON ROTATION RING OR CENTRIFUGE OR COMPLEX DESIGN, IT’S A HUGE SPACE BUILDING AND THAT’S IT.
How do the people on the sides and bottom not fall off? Doesn't NASA know how gravity works?
anon, why do you think that barely anyone lives on the bottom of the Earth?
the magnetic poles keep them there
Spinning only works on the sides
Gorilla glue.
It's right
Star wars people may be primitive peasants who don't understand their own tech but they clearly have some sort of artifical gravity.
>this thread
Beat me to it. I don't get why people start assuming "Dur, houses can't share. That unpossible."
easy
You have my respect, Anon.
Why does the Death Star have man-eating monsters in its trash compactors?
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Dianoga
>one of the few instances where the canon section has more moronic bullshit in it than the legends section
Apparently in canon this thing was named Omi, was a girl, and was fully intelligent and force-sensitive. Also it wasn't trying to eat Luke, just "baptize" him.
>After rescuing Princess Leia Organa aboard the Death Star, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Luke Skywalker were temporarily stranded[5] inside garbage masher 3263827,[7] in the year 0 BBY.[2] Enacting the belief of her people, Omi pulled Skywalker into the water, "baptizing" him, after she felt that he too was in "submission to It," and letting him go shortly thereafter.[1] As the compression cycle was about to start, the dianoga disappeared deep underwater.[5] When Luke Skywalker escaped the trash compactor unharmed, Omi sensed that he would go on to do great things.[1]
>Before the Death Star's destruction, Omi continued to develop in her submission to "It," being able to telepathically lift objects into the air. When her vision was fulfilled, and the Death Star was destroyed, she pondered what she would be in the next life.
oh god it gets worse, apparently this shit was written by a negress and "Omi" means "water" in Yoruba.
Or when they're doing maneuvers and the "gravity" starts pulling the wrong way
Kubrick figured out space physics in the 60s and no one has topped him since.
second one, but inverse, and spinning slowly.
I always assumed left
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh-My-God_particle
Due to special relativity, the relativistic time dilation experienced by a proton traveling at this speed would be extreme. If the proton originated from a distance of 1.5 billion light years, it would take approximately 1.71 days in the reference frame of the proton to travel that distance.
Imagine traveling 1.5bln light years in under two days.