Nah, he said he let go of the hammer and the gun went off by itself.
FBI reports concluded that’s just not possible with his gun model. The trigger had to have been pulled for it to fire
But why lie? If the gun went off by accident, it was an accident. He was provided what he assumed was a prop gun, and used it accordingly. Isn't it the fault and responsibility of the prop people? Trying to distance yourself from an accident just makes you look unnecessarily suspicious. Michael Massee didn't go to jail for shooting Brandon Lee
I hope so. The stupid frick was going around probably in an attempt to "clear his name" giving interviews and quotes for journalists right after it happened during an active investigation.
He gave an interview with well know arbiter of truth, and definitely not the Democratic party spin doctor, George Stephanopoulos, who used to be Senior Advisor to President Bill Clinton. You can find it on the tubes.
Bad. Even if the armorer was responsible for not checking the gun properly before handing it off, Baldwin is still a producer who flaked out on hiring competent crew members after so many quit because of poor scheduling and conditions (i.e. nearby hotels so the crew doesn't have to commute after an 18 hour workday)
Producer of the film. He'll be investigated for the conditions he created to allow it to happen.
>the trigger wasn't pulled. I didn't pull the trigger >so you never pulled the trigger? >no, no, no. I would never point a gun at anybody and pull the trigger at them. Never.
why the frick would you lie about this what a fricking idiot >"yeah I pulled the trigger, I thought it was loaded with blanks and I was being an idiot and took joking around too far"
not a great statement, but still better than being caught in this big of a lie.
also >not double checking that the firearm you've just been handed is in fact loaded with blanks
what a moron
This. I never gave a frick to start with so that's probably why I didn't know he said he didn't pull the trigger, but that's the point. Most people don't give a frick about this because why would they? This is the same thing that happened to Brandon Lee, except it WASN'T the important person that got killed so who gives a frick. The only people that still care about this are gays that have an irrational hatred of Alec Baldwin. He will never even know you exist so why waste your time hating him?
>This is the same thing that happened to Brandon Lee,
no its not. Brandon lee was shot accidentally during a scene where the actor was supposed to fire blanks at him, Baldwin was not supposed to fire the gun at all he was not doing his job.
Wouldn't Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile be more into the use of various types of knots?
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Lmao. Only in troony's houses maybe.
>morons don't even know what a common knot looks like
This is what happens when your entire life experience is from looking at a screen
2 years ago
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I fish, I know dozens of knots. That is not a knot, it's a noose. Frick off, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't know one of the most basic knots, Mr. Fisherman?
2 years ago
Anonymous
AHHH SOMEBODY CALL THE FBI
2 years ago
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MODS
2 years ago
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you're fricked buddy
2 years ago
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>burgers have to tip even their law enforcement
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>no tabs
2 years ago
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>Anon dun goofed
OH NO F
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>not a knot >it's a noose
A noose is just using a knot that tightens under tension to kill someone you stupid moron and that knot is used a lot in fishing
Bubba has been a race car driver for years. He's seen those pulls. There's pictures all over with those door pulls around him. He cried wolf for attention, which is weird because he just looked like a fricking moron the whole time. Now he just gets mocked while never placing in any race he's in.
I'm not the dude you're responding to, but it was much closer to an actual noose. technically maybe it was, if it was tied the same way? doesn't make sense to me, because isn't this knot type made to tighten when pulled?
anyway the FBI came to the correct conclusion so whatever. it was a pretty big story so yeah they sent some people to check it out.
but there's about a million other reasons to shit on the FBI, choose one of those.
beat me to posting the actual photo im slow as hell
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the actual photo
All other photos are fakes?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes.
I'm not the dude you're responding to, but it was much closer to an actual noose. technically maybe it was, if it was tied the same way? doesn't make sense to me, because isn't this knot type made to tighten when pulled?
anyway the FBI came to the correct conclusion so whatever. it was a pretty big story so yeah they sent some people to check it out.
but there's about a million other reasons to shit on the FBI, choose one of those.
Is media hysteria level how the FBI decides what to investigate? Six agents, over a door pull? One guy glancing at a photo for five seconds should have been more than enough attention to that stupidity.
2 years ago
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>Is media hysteria level how the FBI decides what to investigate?
Yes
>noose >The FBI has determined that NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace was not the victim of a hate crime and that a pull rope fashioned like a noose had been on a garage door at Talladega Superspeedway since as early as October, NASCAR said Tuesday.
From ESPN,over two years ago.
All succeful politicians in America today are corrupt scumbags. If you start defending them because of the fake left right reality TV drama youre just another useful idiot.
weird honestly
she was working on a sex scandal film or whatever relating to epstiein or weinstein
either way tribe shit, so she was definitely given the green light to die.
Unfrotunately for Alec he recieved the call
Alec definitely did not know. It was pure Hitman shit
>Welcome to New Mexico, 47. Your target, renowned kinomatographer Halyna Hutchins, can be found on set preparing the daily shoot for the day. With famous actor Alec Baldwin at the helm of production, you should expect a heightened and more observant security presence, but certainly nothing you haven't handled before. Good luck, 47.
>THAT... is Halyna Hutchins, acclaimed director of photography, and covert operative for Providence. Stay sharp, 47.
>Choosing a prop gun to incriminate the lead actor? Interesting choice as always, 47. Alas, I dare say a premature retirement for both parties is in order.
>The target is down, and not even by your own hand! Excellent work, 47. The money is being transferred now, it's time to make your exit... stage left.
. Literally perfect assassination, whoever loaded the gun and left it there did it flawlessly and untraceably.
>Welcome to New Mexico, 47. Your target, renowned kinomatographer Halyna Hutchins, can be found on set preparing the daily shoot for the day. With famous actor Alec Baldwin at the helm of production, you should expect a heightened and more observant security presence, but certainly nothing you haven't handled before. Good luck, 47.
>THAT... is Halyna Hutchins, acclaimed director of photography, and covert operative for Providence. Stay sharp, 47.
>Choosing a prop gun to incriminate the lead actor? Interesting choice as always, 47. Alas, I dare say a premature retirement for both parties is in order.
>The target is down, and not even by your own hand! Excellent work, 47. The money is being transferred now, it's time to make your exit... stage left.
why hasn't anyone modded this mission into Hitman 3 yet? It's the perfect location, and the mission story is already written
More likely the local sheriffs who took possession of the gun sent it to an FBI field office for analysis. Only larger municipal police departments usually have forensics ballistics experts on the payroll.
While I'm sure he'd like to get away with there being no consequences, if all he ends up with is a civil lawsuit rather then criminal charges, he can consider that a win.
The fact is, the armorer was not even on set that day. She was not working. So Alec had some other assistant bring the guns to him, who didn't know anything about it, then never checked them himself. He's fully responsible for every aspect of it. Whether the dumb thot armorer had left loaded guns sitting around barely even matters at that point because the depth of the negligence extends beyond her.
They weren't supposed to have live rounds, just fake ones to make a pop or none at all with the armorer just checking the gun to make sure it's unloaded for legal purposes.
That's one of the things that's pinning Baldwin as liable, as they're saying he would've had to sneak real bullets onto the set and load the gun when no one was looking and intentionally shot her. The movie company is trying to say the company that sent them the gear must've accidentally sent real bullets or a gun that was already loaded and the armorer just didn't check it to be sure, which she's denying.
The reason they use real guns is because of capitalism causing prop guns to be more expensive than real guns and also have no re-sale value, whereas you can buy a real gun for less than a prop gun, then turn around and resell it after filming the movie and make most of your money back, making the overall cost for using the gun almost nothing.
Prop guns aren't more expensive than real guns you dipshit, prop means property. If a gun is used in a theatrical performance, whether it's a CZ straight from the factory or a block of wood someone whittled into the vague shape of an AR-15, it's still a prop gun
Not fricked at all, is he even suspected of a crime at this point? To think a rich and famous celebrity is going to face justice is merely the pipe dream of some delusional idealists; the real world doesn't work that way.
Black folk and trannies I saw on the web said he should've treated the gun as if it was loaded.
Black person how did he fricking knew the prop gun was loaded with a real bullet?
Is it new levels of mental gymnastic we're witnessing here?
Why would they want to send an innocent man in prison?
He always was but the consistently worthless FBI is wrong here. The trigger just moves the hammer. The hammer fires the bullet. Baldwin's nobsense alibi that he "only moved the hammer" and "never touched the trigger" is mechanically ignorant nonsense. Not only can you fire that sort of handgun with just the hammer, but that's faster and more efficient.
It has a safety notch, which I'm sure it's the first thing the FBI checked. It is mechanically impossible for that gun to fire without the trigger being pulled.
>Why I never see the armorer getting any heat?
She's a woman with a dad who has been a pro armorer on tons of movies over the last 30 years, including Tombstone, L.A. Confidential, Blade, Behind Enemy Lines, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Flags of Our Fathers, Grindhouse, 3:10 to Yuma, Django Unchained, Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood, etc.
It's not even unthinkable that her dad pulled some Hollywood strings to get her off by blaming it on the production team instead of her.
Of course, but it's infinitely easier for "investigations" to just blame it broadly on a whole production, thus no one actually gets pinned for anything, rather than singling out any one person.
That's really more of a toss up. The armorers will work on more movies in more integral roles than Baldwin over all, plus shrines it comes down to the favor game. You have to scratch someone's back to be owed a favor, and someone like Baldwin will have probably called in a lot of favors he was owed already to get access to this private jet or that fancy restaurant/villa, whereas an armorer whose racked up years of brownie points and stayed in their lane finally calling in some favors.
I know a guy who worked in SFX for 20 years and never called in any of his favors, then when he came up with his own movie idea was able to call them all in and get it greenlit with him as the director. It almost got a big budget release through the Weinstein company before Me too, but he wanted him to change the story too much so it ended up getting bumped down to an IFC release.
Not true at all. Guns are subject to the same rules as airplanes. The pilot in command is responsible for making sure everything is working and safe before taking off, whether they own the plane or not. The owner/operator is not responsible for the user failing to do a thorough pre-flight if it ends up crashing, it's entirely on the pilot even if what went wrong is something that the owner should have had fixed by a mechanic.
Alec Baldwin is responsible for not thoroughly and carefully checking the gun he was handed before playing around with it. It was his mistake and his fault, not the armorer's. She was an idiot for leaving it loaded, but she never pulled the trigger, he did.
safety issues had already been raised to the producer (alec baldwin) and he chose to ignore them. They literally had strikebreakers working there because half of the production crew had walked off.
Also this:
The armorer covered her ass by having all her paperwork in order saying that she never had any love ammunition in her inventory and properly inspected every firearm, and wasn't on set that day, and also has numerous other experts in the field vouching for her skill and character, which is why Baldwin flip flopped his story and started focusing on the gun "just went off and must have been a factory defect."
The armorer covered her ass by having all her paperwork in order saying that she never had any love ammunition in her inventory and properly inspected every firearm, and wasn't on set that day, and also has numerous other experts in the field vouching for her skill and character, which is why Baldwin flip flopped his story and started focusing on the gun "just went off and must have been a factory defect."
>2022 >hollywood has spent billions of dollars on movies that have guns in them >still using normal firearms to shoot blanks >not bothering to make replicas that won't allow normal ammo to fit or changing firing mechanism
Its their own lazy stupid fault at this point, you'd think they'd care about getting rid of the ridiculous problem of accidently killing people because someone mixed up a live round with a blank
Where did I say use CGI muzzle flash you moron
I'm saying use modified guns that can't accept normal calibres only special sized blanks and ban the use of real guns from movie sets
Its not hard at all to do and takes the same amount of effort as what they do now
So how the frick did this happen? Did someone just pull their daily carry out the holster and passed it to Baldwin or what? How the frick does a prop gun even get into contact with live ammunition? Are those guns not the property of the studio with all the other props and you know, they just don’t buy actual ammo for them?
The prop handler/arnourer/whatever should get their asses torn wide open for this.
The armorer had taken the guns out previously to a firing range and let off some live rounds. I guess she just forgot to unload this one, because she's criminally negligent at her job.
From what I heard, it wasn't her that was taking the guns out, just other crew members from the set. Still would be her responsibility to lock the guns up when not in use for the movie though.
>Why I never see the armorer getting any heat?
She's a woman with a dad who has been a pro armorer on tons of movies over the last 30 years, including Tombstone, L.A. Confidential, Blade, Behind Enemy Lines, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Flags of Our Fathers, Grindhouse, 3:10 to Yuma, Django Unchained, Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood, etc.
It's not even unthinkable that her dad pulled some Hollywood strings to get her off by blaming it on the production team instead of her.
Even if it was just an accident that he squeezed the trigger too hard or whatever, his absolute refusal to own up to it and adamant attempts at deflecting blame or concocting excuses make it look way, way worse. He's a psychopath. He deserves a full prison sentence for manslaughter, simple as. He's been doing anything he possibly can to avoid it to from manufacturing insanity plea evidence to knocking up his wife again for a sympathy sentence so he doesn't miss out on his kid's life. Frick this guy. Seriously.
Look, he took the family out for breakfast. What else do you ungrateful vultures want from him? He even treated them to buying his breakfast for him! They should be on their hands and knees sucking his absolutely gargantuan wiener and praying to me for forgiveness!
I couldn’t give a shit if he goes to the can for good, but he better be accompanied by the armorer/whoever else was responsible for the guns and the crewmen who had the brilliant idea to go have fun at a shooting range using set guns. Frick’em all.
And I want the family of the deceased to get so much money that Baldwin’s wife will have to go work as a cleaning lady at Motel 6.
>uses the "real" pull >breaks the instant you use it >makes a loop knot because you still need to open the damn door >gets the FBI called on you for a hate crime because Black folk are actually that fragile.
>NOOOOO YOU HAAAAVE TO BUY A CHEAP PLASTIC KNOB FROM A CORPORATE OUTLET YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE ONE ON YOUR OWN LIKE REAL RED-BLOODED MEN DO
absolute mental illness. you're just stuck invested in your own deranged racist insistent assertion.
>thread devolving into argument over knots
Amerimutts go outside for a break
Eurocucks go to bed you're tired
Leafs please continue pretending you are american
Ivan needs to buy vodka for his kids so please continue
Bugmen and shitskins always angry regardless so do whatever
>Baldwin malding as Trump shit talks him in the cell nonstop and overpowers him for the top bunk by sitting on him with his obese size
Sounds like an amazing setup for an SNL skit
>It's a "Alec finds happiness getting a role in the upcoming prison theatre show before Trump bribes the guards into playing Alec Baldwin movies like The Shadow instead" episode
>live rounds on a movie set >live rounds in a gun being used as a prop >teenage girl given the job of armorer >also prop master as well so no one to supervise her >baldwin handed the gun by someone who wasn't the armorer >didn't check the gun himself
A crewmember being killed in those circumstances isn't really just a tragic accident, there is criminal negligence somewhere. Not that anyone will have to face the consequences considering the industry in which it happened and some of the people involved.
this is a great example of how disinformation works, one of the clearest i've seen recently >TMZ gets the jump (as usual) and reports that the FBI has finished their investigation >it found that alec baldwin did everything 100% normal, did nothing wrong and clearly isn't culpable >couple hours pass >right-wing rags copy-paste the story >but with the headline "FBI FINDS THAT ALEC BALDWIN PULLED THE TRIGGER" >which of course was never in dispute and does absolutely nothing to prove him culpable (actors are supposed to pull the trigger, it'd look pretty weird in films if they didn't...) >poltards repeat the headline narrative
the hilarious thing about all this is that babydicked conservatives actually think they can win the midterms on culture war subjects like this... average person couldn't give less a frick if alec baldwin wins an oscar or gets life in prison. hell the trans bigotry stuff is more likely to succeed than this
>democrats claim to be on the side of the poor and exploited >rich guy kills a poor employee due to negligence >democrats support him
really causes you to think
The TMZ headline was not altered. He clearly said he did not pull the trigger in the ABC interview and in the police interview as well. Even though he believed the rounds in the gun were inert there was not justifiable reason why he should have been pointing the gun at a group of people and pulling the trigger.
Im sorry, ALEC but you lied and your actions were primarily responsible for this fatal accident.
>Welcome to New Mexico, 47. Your target, renowned kinomatographer Halyna Hutchins, can be found on set preparing the daily shoot for the day. With famous actor Alec Baldwin at the helm of production, you should expect a heightened and more observant security presence, but certainly nothing you haven't handled before. Good luck, 47.
>THAT... is Halyna Hutchins, acclaimed director of photography, and covert operative for Providence. Stay sharp, 47.
>Choosing a prop gun to incriminate the lead actor? Interesting choice as always, 47. Alas, I dare say a premature retirement for both parties is in order.
>The target is down, and not even by your own hand! Excellent work, 47. The money is being transferred now, it's time to make your exit... stage left.
Baldwin literally lives in his own world. He is the most arrogant person I’ve ever met. And it isn’t even close. I have a friend who owns a resort that is frequented by a lot of celebrities, athletes, wealthy people. Of the 50-ish celebs I’ve met…..Baldwin and Charlie Sheen were the biggest c**ts. On an entirely different level than the rest. Truly acted like they were Gods and everybody else was a POS who should be bowing in their presence. Who surprised me? I thought Billy Crystal and Anna Kendrick would be nice. They were not. Nicest? Hands down, Robin Williams. Treated everybody like GOLD. Friendliest person I’ve ever met. Woody Harrelson was also a saint. Total class act and friendly to everybody.
Did there really need to be an investigation as to if he pulled the trigger? Did he really claim to have not done so?
>Did he really claim to have not done so?
yes, he said the gun went off by accident
Really ? I thought he pulled the trigger assuming it was a fake gun
Nah, he said he let go of the hammer and the gun went off by itself.
FBI reports concluded that’s just not possible with his gun model. The trigger had to have been pulled for it to fire
he likely was already holding the trigger and pulled the hammer back, which automatically releases it
he did but he claimed otherwise
He lied that he didn't pull the trigger.
But why lie? If the gun went off by accident, it was an accident. He was provided what he assumed was a prop gun, and used it accordingly. Isn't it the fault and responsibility of the prop people? Trying to distance yourself from an accident just makes you look unnecessarily suspicious. Michael Massee didn't go to jail for shooting Brandon Lee
Yes. He also claimed that she killed herself
Yeah he gave an interview, on 60 Minutes I think it was, so there is literally video proof that he said he didn't actually pull the trigger.
oof, he's going away for life then isn't he
I hope so. The stupid frick was going around probably in an attempt to "clear his name" giving interviews and quotes for journalists right after it happened during an active investigation.
Because he thinks he's smarter than everyone around him, so obviously he knows best
>oof
Do you know how many Black folk your gf fricks per week or did you stop counting awhile ago
>see a word
>think of Black folk fricking women
sharts everybody!
I'm calling you a b***h if you needed that clarified
Mutt's Law.
rich people dont get life for manslaughter
He gave an interview with well know arbiter of truth, and definitely not the Democratic party spin doctor, George Stephanopoulos, who used to be Senior Advisor to President Bill Clinton. You can find it on the tubes.
Bad. Even if the armorer was responsible for not checking the gun properly before handing it off, Baldwin is still a producer who flaked out on hiring competent crew members after so many quit because of poor scheduling and conditions (i.e. nearby hotels so the crew doesn't have to commute after an 18 hour workday)
Producer of the film. He'll be investigated for the conditions he created to allow it to happen.
>the trigger wasn't pulled. I didn't pull the trigger
>so you never pulled the trigger?
>no, no, no. I would never point a gun at anybody and pull the trigger at them. Never.
?t=48
why the frick would you lie about this what a fricking idiot
>"yeah I pulled the trigger, I thought it was loaded with blanks and I was being an idiot and took joking around too far"
not a great statement, but still better than being caught in this big of a lie.
also
>not double checking that the firearm you've just been handed is in fact loaded with blanks
what a moron
Morally, he didn't pull it. That's the takeaway here.
Ah yes, the Huey defense
>i didn't do it, i'd never let them in snek
>okay, i did it...but it was for all of us, i swear!
>*watery noises*
There are some older revolvers that can be fired without pulling the trigger.
This. I never gave a frick to start with so that's probably why I didn't know he said he didn't pull the trigger, but that's the point. Most people don't give a frick about this because why would they? This is the same thing that happened to Brandon Lee, except it WASN'T the important person that got killed so who gives a frick. The only people that still care about this are gays that have an irrational hatred of Alec Baldwin. He will never even know you exist so why waste your time hating him?
>This is the same thing that happened to Brandon Lee,
no its not. Brandon lee was shot accidentally during a scene where the actor was supposed to fire blanks at him, Baldwin was not supposed to fire the gun at all he was not doing his job.
Why is the FBI investigating this?
Seems like a local matter.
It's the same FBI that sent half a dozen agents to investigate a door pull on a garage at a NASCAR track because they thought it was a hate crime.
it was a noose
What were they hanging, black gerbils?
>door pull
Yes, that's what a door pull looks like.
i want /misc/ to leave
Wouldn't Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile be more into the use of various types of knots?
>morons don't even know what a common knot looks like
This is what happens when your entire life experience is from looking at a screen
I fish, I know dozens of knots. That is not a knot, it's a noose. Frick off, moron.
You don't know one of the most basic knots, Mr. Fisherman?
AHHH SOMEBODY CALL THE FBI
MODS
you're fricked buddy
>burgers have to tip even their law enforcement
>no tabs
>Anon dun goofed
OH NO F
>not a knot
>it's a noose
A noose is just using a knot that tightens under tension to kill someone you stupid moron and that knot is used a lot in fishing
Lmao. Only in troony's houses maybe.
You need to get them out of your head.
it's actually a heckin noose tho
>illegal knots
Bubba has been a race car driver for years. He's seen those pulls. There's pictures all over with those door pulls around him. He cried wolf for attention, which is weird because he just looked like a fricking moron the whole time. Now he just gets mocked while never placing in any race he's in.
he was trying to get in on that jussie action
I've seen shittons of doorpulls over the years. Yes, they do look like that.
racist
racist
Americans and liberals are such fricking idiots I swear to God
>have a nice day
>charged with a hate crime post-mortem
I'm not the dude you're responding to, but it was much closer to an actual noose. technically maybe it was, if it was tied the same way? doesn't make sense to me, because isn't this knot type made to tighten when pulled?
anyway the FBI came to the correct conclusion so whatever. it was a pretty big story so yeah they sent some people to check it out.
but there's about a million other reasons to shit on the FBI, choose one of those.
shit
beat me to posting the actual photo im slow as hell
>the actual photo
All other photos are fakes?
yes.
is the door pull in question, not
Is media hysteria level how the FBI decides what to investigate? Six agents, over a door pull? One guy glancing at a photo for five seconds should have been more than enough attention to that stupidity.
>Is media hysteria level how the FBI decides what to investigate?
Yes
mental illness
>noose
>The FBI has determined that NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace was not the victim of a hate crime and that a pull rope fashioned like a noose had been on a garage door at Talladega Superspeedway since as early as October, NASCAR said Tuesday.
From ESPN,over two years ago.
Alec "(Ante up) YAP THAT FOOL (Ante up) KIDNAP THAT FOOL get her GET HER get her hit her HIT HER hit her YAP HER zap her YAP HER zap her" Baldwin
Mashed Out Posse pilled
She wanna act stupid? Gun-butt that fool.
Yeah, the FBI needs all its resources to go and harass former and future presidents.
Why is the FBI still spying on a former president?
>why is the FBI trying to stop traitors from committing espionage?
This is what mass media consoomers actually believe.
How fricking clueless are you?
apparently not as clueless as you are. These organizations exist simply to spy on and control the populace.
All succeful politicians in America today are corrupt scumbags. If you start defending them because of the fake left right reality TV drama youre just another useful idiot.
One of their zogbots is in trouble
The husband of the woman that Alec shot was a lawyer for the Clintons
weird honestly
she was working on a sex scandal film or whatever relating to epstiein or weinstein
either way tribe shit, so she was definitely given the green light to die.
Unfrotunately for Alec he recieved the call
Alec definitely did not know. It was pure Hitman shit
. Literally perfect assassination, whoever loaded the gun and left it there did it flawlessly and untraceably.
why hasn't anyone modded this mission into Hitman 3 yet? It's the perfect location, and the mission story is already written
>falling for an obvious troll post
More likely the local sheriffs who took possession of the gun sent it to an FBI field office for analysis. Only larger municipal police departments usually have forensics ballistics experts on the payroll.
Local authorities probably asked for help
what's his name Cinemaphile
>Alec "The Last Shot" Baldwin
>Alec "From Saturday Night Live to Thursday Afternoon Dead" Baldwin
>Alec "30 Glock" Baldwin
Did it actually take the FBI that long to come to that conclusion?
If you think about it, she really killed herself.
What if I don't
He was under the impression that the gun didn't have a live round in it. Why the frick would they have live rounds on the set?
His story has changed about a dozen different times, which isn't something that looks good to a jury.
SET ARMORER YOU RAT
THOSE WEREN'T BLANKS YOU WERE PUTTING IN THE PROP GUN
THAT WAS A HOT GUN
HOW COULD YOU GIVE ALEC BALDWIN THE OLD HOT GUN
Underrated post
Even if the argument is that the set armorer is at fault, Alec is the producer of the entire thing and is liable for damages because of that.
So basically even if he deflects blame onto the armorer, he's still liable.
Correct.
While I'm sure he'd like to get away with there being no consequences, if all he ends up with is a civil lawsuit rather then criminal charges, he can consider that a win.
The fact is, the armorer was not even on set that day. She was not working. So Alec had some other assistant bring the guns to him, who didn't know anything about it, then never checked them himself. He's fully responsible for every aspect of it. Whether the dumb thot armorer had left loaded guns sitting around barely even matters at that point because the depth of the negligence extends beyond her.
Either way Alec is responsible for hiring and any bullshit these jabronis working for him criminally do.
They weren't supposed to have live rounds, just fake ones to make a pop or none at all with the armorer just checking the gun to make sure it's unloaded for legal purposes.
That's one of the things that's pinning Baldwin as liable, as they're saying he would've had to sneak real bullets onto the set and load the gun when no one was looking and intentionally shot her. The movie company is trying to say the company that sent them the gear must've accidentally sent real bullets or a gun that was already loaded and the armorer just didn't check it to be sure, which she's denying.
The reason they use real guns is because of capitalism causing prop guns to be more expensive than real guns and also have no re-sale value, whereas you can buy a real gun for less than a prop gun, then turn around and resell it after filming the movie and make most of your money back, making the overall cost for using the gun almost nothing.
Prop guns aren't more expensive than real guns you dipshit, prop means property. If a gun is used in a theatrical performance, whether it's a CZ straight from the factory or a block of wood someone whittled into the vague shape of an AR-15, it's still a prop gun
If you think about it, MAGA chuds killed her.
After much intensive examination of the clues the FBI has concluded that to make a gun fire you must pull the trigger
>to make a gun fire you must pull the trigger
?t=12
>Taurus
>just bought a taurus revolver
im not fricked right bros?
scariest part of this is there are even worse manufacturers than taurus at the moment
He might get probation
Not fricked at all, is he even suspected of a crime at this point? To think a rich and famous celebrity is going to face justice is merely the pipe dream of some delusional idealists; the real world doesn't work that way.
Explain Weinstein and Epstein then
Sacrificial lamb to keep the goyim cattle complacent. The former figurative while the latter being literal.
In the current era the white, cis, privileged actor is more likely to get screwed than the female, dyke-looking, poorer armorer.
It's the armorer's fault. She should be charged for gross negligence and also for not having sex with me.
The armorer and Baldwin are both at fault, but her moreso.
Black folk and trannies I saw on the web said he should've treated the gun as if it was loaded.
Black person how did he fricking knew the prop gun was loaded with a real bullet?
Is it new levels of mental gymnastic we're witnessing here?
Why would they want to send an innocent man in prison?
>you need to KNOW it's loaded to treat it like it's loaded
never handle a gun, please.
Ive shot myself at work before. Sometimes you just have to live a little
You should treat every single gun as if it's loaded, idiot.
Identified as an incel. Every right wind gun but/hunter/real man type will tell you ad nauseam that you always treat a gun like it's loaded.
>be an actor
>get money to pretend
>can't pretend the gun is loaded
>Alec Baldwin impersonated Trump a lot
>both Trump and Baldwin are going to jail
Pottery
>thinking law enforcement would send leftist celebrities to prison
baka
They could share a cell
He always was but the consistently worthless FBI is wrong here. The trigger just moves the hammer. The hammer fires the bullet. Baldwin's nobsense alibi that he "only moved the hammer" and "never touched the trigger" is mechanically ignorant nonsense. Not only can you fire that sort of handgun with just the hammer, but that's faster and more efficient.
your post contradicts itself repeatedly
FRICK i hate reading ESL posts
*I
It has a safety notch, which I'm sure it's the first thing the FBI checked. It is mechanically impossible for that gun to fire without the trigger being pulled.
it took them like 8 months for that? sometime the timelines on these things are moronic
Why I never see the armorer getting any heat?
Even if he did pull the trigger how the frick was he supposed to know that it was loaded with live ammo?
I read that she wasn't even on set because it was a framing test where nothing was supposed to be happening.
>Why I never see the armorer getting any heat?
She's a woman with a dad who has been a pro armorer on tons of movies over the last 30 years, including Tombstone, L.A. Confidential, Blade, Behind Enemy Lines, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Flags of Our Fathers, Grindhouse, 3:10 to Yuma, Django Unchained, Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood, etc.
It's not even unthinkable that her dad pulled some Hollywood strings to get her off by blaming it on the production team instead of her.
You don't think Alec Baldwin is a more powerful figure in Hollywood than some armorer?
Of course, but it's infinitely easier for "investigations" to just blame it broadly on a whole production, thus no one actually gets pinned for anything, rather than singling out any one person.
That's really more of a toss up. The armorers will work on more movies in more integral roles than Baldwin over all, plus shrines it comes down to the favor game. You have to scratch someone's back to be owed a favor, and someone like Baldwin will have probably called in a lot of favors he was owed already to get access to this private jet or that fancy restaurant/villa, whereas an armorer whose racked up years of brownie points and stayed in their lane finally calling in some favors.
I know a guy who worked in SFX for 20 years and never called in any of his favors, then when he came up with his own movie idea was able to call them all in and get it greenlit with him as the director. It almost got a big budget release through the Weinstein company before Me too, but he wanted him to change the story too much so it ended up getting bumped down to an IFC release.
>some gun aficionado has a secret network of people more powerful than the FBI
jeez, who doesn't have a vast contact array to suppress crime reports these days?
Because ultimately it wasn't her finger on the trigger.
The gun and the ammo were.
*her responsibility.
The guy who gets himself killed because of unsafe health hazards isn't at fault, it's the safety inspectors.
Same applies to her with the guns.
Not true at all. Guns are subject to the same rules as airplanes. The pilot in command is responsible for making sure everything is working and safe before taking off, whether they own the plane or not. The owner/operator is not responsible for the user failing to do a thorough pre-flight if it ends up crashing, it's entirely on the pilot even if what went wrong is something that the owner should have had fixed by a mechanic.
Alec Baldwin is responsible for not thoroughly and carefully checking the gun he was handed before playing around with it. It was his mistake and his fault, not the armorer's. She was an idiot for leaving it loaded, but she never pulled the trigger, he did.
safety issues had already been raised to the producer (alec baldwin) and he chose to ignore them. They literally had strikebreakers working there because half of the production crew had walked off.
Also this:
The armorer covered her ass by having all her paperwork in order saying that she never had any love ammunition in her inventory and properly inspected every firearm, and wasn't on set that day, and also has numerous other experts in the field vouching for her skill and character, which is why Baldwin flip flopped his story and started focusing on the gun "just went off and must have been a factory defect."
That's blatantly false though because I personally filled her inventory with love ammunition that very morning.
>2022
>hollywood has spent billions of dollars on movies that have guns in them
>still using normal firearms to shoot blanks
>not bothering to make replicas that won't allow normal ammo to fit or changing firing mechanism
Its their own lazy stupid fault at this point, you'd think they'd care about getting rid of the ridiculous problem of accidently killing people because someone mixed up a live round with a blank
>dude just replace the guns with props and use CGI for the muzzle flash
No. Hire competent people if you're making an action film.
Where did I say use CGI muzzle flash you moron
I'm saying use modified guns that can't accept normal calibres only special sized blanks and ban the use of real guns from movie sets
Its not hard at all to do and takes the same amount of effort as what they do now
So how the frick did this happen? Did someone just pull their daily carry out the holster and passed it to Baldwin or what? How the frick does a prop gun even get into contact with live ammunition? Are those guns not the property of the studio with all the other props and you know, they just don’t buy actual ammo for them?
The prop handler/arnourer/whatever should get their asses torn wide open for this.
The armorer had taken the guns out previously to a firing range and let off some live rounds. I guess she just forgot to unload this one, because she's criminally negligent at her job.
From what I heard, it wasn't her that was taking the guns out, just other crew members from the set. Still would be her responsibility to lock the guns up when not in use for the movie though.
It's called an assassination to get rid of Baldwin's many gambling debts
Oh for frick’s sake
Correct, but she’s got her own connections
Is it true Baldwin said "skin that smokewagon" before shooting her?
Then said "you gonna do something, or lay there and bleed?" afterwards?
Yes
Even if it was just an accident that he squeezed the trigger too hard or whatever, his absolute refusal to own up to it and adamant attempts at deflecting blame or concocting excuses make it look way, way worse. He's a psychopath. He deserves a full prison sentence for manslaughter, simple as. He's been doing anything he possibly can to avoid it to from manufacturing insanity plea evidence to knocking up his wife again for a sympathy sentence so he doesn't miss out on his kid's life. Frick this guy. Seriously.
Look, he took the family out for breakfast. What else do you ungrateful vultures want from him? He even treated them to buying his breakfast for him! They should be on their hands and knees sucking his absolutely gargantuan wiener and praying to me for forgiveness!
Sounds like Baldwin's going to find some incriminating evidence on the Clintons very soon
Welcome to like.. 3 months ago
Man I used to love RRW
Is there a way to prevent pigs from planting evidence on you?
Donate to the Democrat Party
He took the family to Denny's, what more do they want from him?
So why did he point a gun at someone anyway?
I couldn’t give a shit if he goes to the can for good, but he better be accompanied by the armorer/whoever else was responsible for the guns and the crewmen who had the brilliant idea to go have fun at a shooting range using set guns. Frick’em all.
And I want the family of the deceased to get so much money that Baldwin’s wife will have to go work as a cleaning lady at Motel 6.
>Alwc Baldwin kills someone
>nothing
>Ezra Miller literally grooms a child into thinking she is trans and then fricked her
>nothing
They got really uppity after reaizing the goyim are fumb fricking animal and will never rise up
what a real door pull may look like or SHOULD look like
Hypothetically what if the T handle came off, what would you do, to help you grip the rope
Figure of eight on a bight
You can acquire a knot door pull license with only an internet form and a quick background check.
>uses the "real" pull
>breaks the instant you use it
>makes a loop knot because you still need to open the damn door
>gets the FBI called on you for a hate crime because Black folk are actually that fragile.
>NOOOOO YOU HAAAAVE TO BUY A CHEAP PLASTIC KNOB FROM A CORPORATE OUTLET YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE ONE ON YOUR OWN LIKE REAL RED-BLOODED MEN DO
absolute mental illness. you're just stuck invested in your own deranged racist insistent assertion.
Are you sure that is a certified door pull? Do you have a loicense for it?
I like dark humor but posting a buck-breaking device goes a bit too far imo.
>How fricked is he?
not fricked at all
he has the right politics and money
Pic related is america’s gods
Petty is pretty based, who's that guy though
HE BOUGHT THEM A DENNY'S GRAND SLAM
AND THOUGHT IT WAS A HOME RUN
If you really think about it, Wei Boyang, the inventor of gunpowder killed her.
Alec is really going all out with his blame deflection
>thread devolving into argument over knots
Amerimutts go outside for a break
Eurocucks go to bed you're tired
Leafs please continue pretending you are american
Ivan needs to buy vodka for his kids so please continue
Bugmen and shitskins always angry regardless so do whatever
>Bugmen and shitskins always angry regardless so do whatever
but burgers are shitskins too though
>How fricked is he?
9 months house arrest with no access to Denny's
A rich famous celebrity? not very
You tell me; here is is entire interrogation.
Spoiler: They question him for an hour before revealing this was actually a murder investigation like a god damned Alec Baldwin thriller.
Never forget
>him and Trump are gonna be room mates
kino
>Baldwin malding as Trump shit talks him in the cell nonstop and overpowers him for the top bunk by sitting on him with his obese size
Sounds like an amazing setup for an SNL skit
>it's a Trump leads a prison gang and Baldwin gets ostracized episode
>It's a "Alec finds happiness getting a role in the upcoming prison theatre show before Trump bribes the guards into playing Alec Baldwin movies like The Shadow instead" episode
>It's a Team America rerun
So when is this movie coming out, tired of this behind the scenes drama. I want to watch Rust, got dammit
I'm honestly alarmed and a bit startled that not one person called op out for a fictional article.
This board is beyond saving
Most of the thread has nothing to do with the article.
Alec Baldwin is a sociopath, narcissist, and a compulsive liar. Anyone who's not a North Korean level brainwashed Democrat already knew that.
That has literally nothing to do with my post. Your meds, shizo.
Sheriff John Brown always hated me
For what, I don't know
Every time I would plant a seed
He said, "kill it before it grows"
>live rounds on a movie set
>live rounds in a gun being used as a prop
>teenage girl given the job of armorer
>also prop master as well so no one to supervise her
>baldwin handed the gun by someone who wasn't the armorer
>didn't check the gun himself
A crewmember being killed in those circumstances isn't really just a tragic accident, there is criminal negligence somewhere. Not that anyone will have to face the consequences considering the industry in which it happened and some of the people involved.
this is a great example of how disinformation works, one of the clearest i've seen recently
>TMZ gets the jump (as usual) and reports that the FBI has finished their investigation
>it found that alec baldwin did everything 100% normal, did nothing wrong and clearly isn't culpable
>couple hours pass
>right-wing rags copy-paste the story
>but with the headline "FBI FINDS THAT ALEC BALDWIN PULLED THE TRIGGER"
>which of course was never in dispute and does absolutely nothing to prove him culpable (actors are supposed to pull the trigger, it'd look pretty weird in films if they didn't...)
>poltards repeat the headline narrative
the hilarious thing about all this is that babydicked conservatives actually think they can win the midterms on culture war subjects like this... average person couldn't give less a frick if alec baldwin wins an oscar or gets life in prison. hell the trans bigotry stuff is more likely to succeed than this
>democrats claim to be on the side of the poor and exploited
>rich guy kills a poor employee due to negligence
>democrats support him
really causes you to think
>>but with the headline "FBI FINDS THAT ALEC BALDWIN PULLED THE TRIGGER"
of course was never in dispute
You're a fricking idiot.
>https://www.tmz.com/2022/08/13/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-forensic-fbi-pulled-trigger/
The TMZ headline was not altered. He clearly said he did not pull the trigger in the ABC interview and in the police interview as well. Even though he believed the rounds in the gun were inert there was not justifiable reason why he should have been pointing the gun at a group of people and pulling the trigger.
Im sorry, ALEC but you lied and your actions were primarily responsible for this fatal accident.
He's a murderer. String him up.
>born in the middle of bumfrick nowhere, Ukraine
>dies less than four months before the Russian Invasion of Ukraine
What did ~~*she*~~ mean by this?
nothing will happen, different rules for rich people
if this was an average person who accidentally killed someone, manslaughter charges for sure, possibly murder charges.
this chucklefrick kills ones person and injures a second, he cries on national TV about how he's the victim, what a total frickwit.
>Welcome to New Mexico, 47. Your target, renowned kinomatographer Halyna Hutchins, can be found on set preparing the daily shoot for the day. With famous actor Alec Baldwin at the helm of production, you should expect a heightened and more observant security presence, but certainly nothing you haven't handled before. Good luck, 47.
>THAT... is Halyna Hutchins, acclaimed director of photography, and covert operative for Providence. Stay sharp, 47.
>Choosing a prop gun to incriminate the lead actor? Interesting choice as always, 47. Alas, I dare say a premature retirement for both parties is in order.
>The target is down, and not even by your own hand! Excellent work, 47. The money is being transferred now, it's time to make your exit... stage left.
Hate how nuHitman has to have Diana's le witty quip live narration every time you so much as wipe your ass.
>what is Curtains Down
I personally love it, their very dry and morbid senses of humor add the perfect flavor to the proceedings.
zero percent?
>I BOUGHT THE KID A GRAND SLAM!
>WHAT ELSE DO YOU BLOOD SUCKERS WANT FROM ME?!?
he wont see 1 day in jail
typical society, letting millionaires walk away from murder and negligent homicide
Even if they charge him with involuntary manslaughter he will likely plead guilty and get a suspended sentence. He's not going to do time.
Holy shit he's actually going to burn in he'll
in Rust?
Can you remember how this toy gun got so much ridicule?
Who's laughing now!
CGI never killed anyone, so fair.
It killed cinema.
>Jurassic Park and Terminator 2 killed cinema
As much as I hate this butthole what happened wasnt criminal on his part in the least.
What he really did wrong was hiring a woman in a position of responsibility.
Baldwin literally lives in his own world. He is the most arrogant person I’ve ever met. And it isn’t even close. I have a friend who owns a resort that is frequented by a lot of celebrities, athletes, wealthy people. Of the 50-ish celebs I’ve met…..Baldwin and Charlie Sheen were the biggest c**ts. On an entirely different level than the rest. Truly acted like they were Gods and everybody else was a POS who should be bowing in their presence. Who surprised me? I thought Billy Crystal and Anna Kendrick would be nice. They were not. Nicest? Hands down, Robin Williams. Treated everybody like GOLD. Friendliest person I’ve ever met. Woody Harrelson was also a saint. Total class act and friendly to everybody.
Good work, 47.
>thats 2 so far shooter