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Why don't those cheap youtube animated channels ever try to ripoff Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss? They ripoff ADC, Sonic, Mario, Amogus, Huggy Wuggy. You think with the kid and teen fanbase this shit has they'd be all over it with stuff like "Pregnant Charlie car accident, sad story but Angel Dust has good ending"
Anon, they did for a lot bit there, but the main things are
>Hazbin/Helluva are clearly "adult" programs
>Vivziepop's designs are much much harder to puppet and make work
>The rapid succession of time and the wait between new episodes
>The lack of monetization with Hell as a major aspect
Content farms are a business. If they try to milk one cow that's getting old instead of looking for new milk, they'll miss out on the money.
Teen-Z
Hazbin is too mature-rated for that, plus that shit is less driven by actual engagement and more driven by raw search algorithms.
I was half drunk and barely listening to what they said.
Is there any other way to watch cartoons?
God I hate bronies and alcoholics.
Once. I turned it off after the first cringe instead of hate-watching it like losers do.
How many threads are you going to make before this whole show gets booted to /trash/?
At least 10 more today
SWEARING = FUNNY
They really don't swear that much
They absolutely do. I overall enjoyed the episodes, but that shit (heh) was jarring
Every second word was a swear.
NTA, but really? I got into the series expecting a lot of swears and was surprised by the lack of them, except for Adam, there were that many?
they must've said them so much your brain filtered them out. So much frickin frick shit frick, it was Danny McBride tier bad
Swearing in Cartoons can be funny, but it's only funny when the scene actually calls for it. Take Homer getting hit by a chair as he bathes for example.
Yes, that's true, Frick.
This but exclude the no-no words that are too offensive! Viv doesn't have the balls to use actual swear words. Thinking about it, she may be able to get away with it, Husk could probably say homie and Angel Dust homosexual...
where is the british sitcom copypasta
about tree fiddy
>hell
>entirely populated with homos
What did Vivz mean by this?
It's like ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN but opposite
I mean there is one straight couple.
They're explicitly not demons and were born in hell instead of being sent there, but they do exist.
So technically it's not entirely populated by homos, it's just that every single sinner we've seen so far is a homo.
And Adam who's the first straight guy is an angel.
Sure, Lucifer and Lilith are paragons of heterosexual love. Hell, they invented the concept altogether. It is just weird that they failed to prevent their only daughter from going full dyke.
I meant the imps.
very much not straight, they're just committed
Unironically it's to frame heaven as the dogmatic bad guys oppressing lgbt. The way they portray Adam pretty much says it all.
I want more groups besides gay people that got thrown into hell for stupid reasons because they used to be sins:
>people who celebrated christmas back when it was a pagan holiday
>innocent women burned as witches
>people who wore mixed fabrics or ate shellfish
I know this won't be in the show since it's pretty much just gaybaiting but it would be funny to get dumber and dumber sins throughout the show
in the pilot song, it described all the morons god doesnt want in his perfect heaven.
>animals with rabies go to hell
>people who wore mixed fabrics or ate shellfish
why do reddit fedoras like this one so much?
Eating shellfish is banned in Judaism. Reddit atheists think it also applies to Christians for some reason.
It does apply to Christians, they're just idiots who don't follow their own holy book
>b-but jesus said the dietary laws don't apply anymore, it says so in Mark 7:19
no he didn't. the Bible verse in question was literally just about *eating with dirty hands*, not unclean meats. it wasn't until around 100-200 years later that some Roman jackass said "hey this means Christians don't have to follow ANY dietary laws" in a cynical attempt to gain more followers.
>Romans 14:20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.
Furthermore, dietary laws contained in the Old Testament are about literal cleanliness. The primary concerns of Levitacus are about keeping clean and healthy as a semi-nomadic tribe of desert dwellers in an era before refrigeration. It's not about morality. Pork is unclean since pigs eat filth and are a vector for a host of diseases. Shellfish are unclean because they begin rotting the instant they die. Mixed clothes is about wool and linen specifically- because the two materials absolutely shouldn't be woven together. Women are unclean during their period and after birth because of the blood and other, less savory materials. Certain diseases are quarantined if they show certain symptoms. And so forth.
Conflating sin with cleanliness is something atheists love to do because it lets them feel smug and most of the people they argue with aren't well educated on the actual nuance of the text in question.
Certainly some of it had origins rooted in cleanliness, but it's a bit revisionist to say that was entirely the reason for all of the rules. We're talking about 2500+ year old traditions, there's a lot of magical thinking, pointless superstitions, and cultural factors mixed in.
It is funny and shows how wacky the rules of the Old Testament could get because israelites were neurotic.
Also it is relevant because American Christians love quoting Old Testament laws when talking about how people should act and how society should be run.
god imagine a show with this premise but with actually competent writers.
>what are you in for?
and imagine if the gay jokes were actually funny instead of just HAHA I'M GAY AND HORNY. Like
it'd be kino
>no israelites in hell
Im so sick of the Agenda
wouldn't israelites have their own version of hell?
Well forgive her for going at least a little bible accurate
>always hazbin
I laughed
I think Viv wants to imply that heaven is homophobic or something like that.
If I had to guess the whole point of the show is that heaven is made up of hypocritical buttholes who only let people they like in and not the misfits of society. Viv is probably going to rip off Arcane and try to do a Zaun/Piltover style thing with heaven and hell.
Imagine how good of a twist it would be if Heaven was actually depicted how it is in the Bible and God isn't depicted as an butthole like He usually is
A cartoon with a biblically accurate God would be the worst advert for christianity ever
That is never going to happen anon. Viv is not going to touch the notion of God with a ten foot stick and instead is just going to take the route every other media featuring a literal christian heaven has taken; there will be an evil council of angels ruling over.
This makes me sad because that will be most likely why Angel is in Hell and his brother and father are simply homophobic twats. I would by far prefer if Angel WAS a total garbage can and maybe the show itself made it a twist that it wasn't him being gay that lead him in there and in fact it was just him. Maybe as he faces his father he could this reality check. Kind of like this:
>I hated you because...? Really? THIS is what you think I care about?! This is what you think is the worst quality of yours? THAT!? Anthony. May I remind you that after your brother was in a shoot out and almost died you NEVER showed up to check on him! You were busy, happily doing some performance in a strip club and when I tried to tell you about it you laughed! There was one day I saw you shaking on the floor, you overdosed. I was dragging your convulsing body to a hospital to save you. I was afraid to my core that you were close to ending up in this place, but you were saved... and what did I saw few days later? You doing drugs again! You left our house to become a dancer, humiliating your family and yourself and exposing yourself to danger despite what everyone said. You dismissed all of that. You told us to frick off from your life... And that's what I did. I do not hate you because you are gay, homosexual HOWEVER THE FRICK IT'S CALLED. I despise you now, because you are and always were a disrespectful, uncaring little shit caring more for your own pleasure than anything else. But never in my life or unlife would I despise you more than I ever loved you. But you did your damn best to make that happen.
Angel Dust is the show's defining gay icon and a rape victim. Viv is never ever going to make him genuinely unlikable or, at least, suggest that he deserves to be in hell because of something he did.
>I worked in the mob!
>So you killed anyone?
>H-heh, uh, n-no...
I would love to see that dumbass try to run circle around that.
Its ok, he only killed homophobic chuds who deserved it while being blackmailed by the mob boss.
Which is a shame because it defeats the purpose of redemption or rather what it is meant to be because so far Viv seems to think redemption is about therapy and someone "becoming better" when it should be about confronting your sins and people you hurt through them, wishing to atone and earn forgiveness not just from people they hurt, but also from themselves once they learn to see the wrong of their deeds.
Being likable doesn’t have to mean being pure and not deserving punishment
By unlikeable I meant having done something/doing something that is so bad it simply sours the audience to the character. Of course it comes in degrees and it completely depends on the type of audience. For example, even if Alastor or Vox are pretty evil, they are generally likeable because they have not done something unforgivable yet. In contrast, Valentino has already lodged himself as undeserving of redemption in many people's minds. He has become unlikable.
It’s hard to say without seeing rest of the show, but you’re probably right. I wouldn’t be suprised if Valentino’s character would get reedemed somehow, but I don’t think it would matter much in cancel culture we currently live in. I do like him and would nice to see him doing something, well, nice. As for Angel, we will see
I remember there was much seething on twitter and endless articles in feminist media when Shadoweaver was redeemed at the end of Princesses of Power. These people think that some actions are so unforgivable that the character needs to stay evil so that they get their just deserts in the show.
I think Val would have been fine as an irredeemable villain if he was actually threatening and terrifying. Because he is pretty much a joke. A male Stella. I would definitely prefer if he was more of a manipulative abuser. I had this version of the scene in mind where Angel is taken to the backstage by Val in episode 4. Angel tries to plea and Val goes:
>No... I understand Angel. My Sweetheart.
He grabs Angel on the cheek and caresses it.
>It was out of your control. I know that. I am not angry.
Angel is surprised. Relieved and then blurts out.
>Oh! OH Thank you Val, I promise I will never-
And then Val puts more strength into his hand holding Angel
>I am not angry YET."
And then falls silence as he grabs Angel's head with a second hand.
>But if this kind of disturbance happens AGAIN... I will be forced to punish you. And you know how much it would pain me to hurt you again don't you? Are you going to do this to me? Force me to do something like this?
Angel is silent and then quietly whispers
>N-no...
Then Val smiles
>Good. Remember. You are ALWAYS welcome at my side. I love you.
Making Val more of an abuser that makes their victims believe they are at fault (and may even believe it) I think would make him more interesting. Also maybe giving him the vibe of a monster capable to control it's monstrosity. Where he is for the most part all calm and charming, but beneath that is a monster ready to tear you to shreds if pushed far enough. A creature that can go in blink of an eye from calm and sweet to murderous and brutal.
Val is a porn studio owner of course hes gonna be a complete sociopath. Besides I dont get people who see him and Angel in a relationship hes just saying pretty words to get the dog to do its job he doesnt one shit about Angel.
I don't either. But I would prefer him to be more interesting and at this point if it's revealed in the past that he was more cunning and charismatic when he was getting Angel that will mean his entire character is pretty much dependent on Angel Dust because that will imply that Val stopped caring about hiding his awful nature the moment he got Angel. I know he is meant to be AD's villain, but I prefer him to be a character and not a tantrum throwing plot device.
>Val is a porn studio owner of course hes gonna be a complete sociopath.
>t. never watched Boogie Nights
Nobody wanted Val to be redeemed. What we wanted was for initial portrayal as a dominant pimp to stick and not have him devolve into a whimpering cry baby beta male cuck.
He's not threatening at all. The beat down scene was comical.
And what's with his voice? Why can't the VA hold a steady accent? Half the time he sounds like a gay white dude and the other half of the time he sounds like he's larping as twink Antonio Banderas
>And what's with his voice?
they needed another broadway actor, please understand
Villains overall being more intelligent would be welcome. Vox and Velvette have some hints of having a brain, but overall they are all pretty dumb. Like Vox SERIOUSLY couldn't just hypnotize someone to always go back to him and tell him of what is going on at the hotel without the stupid Pentious camera? Val being the way he is also makes the entire plot line of Angel very weak. In fact I think the best way to do Season 1 would be to just have it be about redeeming their first sinner. This being Angel Dust and with Val being the main antagonist of Season 1. That gives the season a proper focus, once the redemption happens it would feel earned and powerful and it would give more time to flesh out Valentino as well as a villain you should fear and then it could carry over to Season 2 where several sinners are being redeemed and that would feel impactful with maybe other 2 Vees being antagonists after dealing with Val who in that version would abuse THEM as well and they got rid of him at the end of 1 maybe.
Alastor is the most popular character of the show. Anybody who actively opposes him, like Vox, has to be a fail villain who only exists to get embarrased and mindbroken.
Keeping Vox for main antagonist role for Season 2 I think would have been better. Could also be the moment when Alastor also shows himself in the more antagonistic role as Charlie maybe after redeeming Angel and then redeeming other sinners one by one she starts to feel depressed over pretty much seeing people she grew to deeply care about move away from her. Slowly realizing she will be at the end all alone. Maybe Alastor would be using that to put doubt and manipulate her so this Hotel fails for his amusement, but because of Velvette and Vox's actions also doing that he may start to regret as maybe Charlie herself turns into a monster as well because of him.
She is still dumb for thinking that she can just win again Heaven.
Yeah... And it hurts. I would vastly prefer them to be more threatening villains, but Viv seems to not be able to make villains who are not just pure, dumb evil. We see it with Stella, Andrealphus, Striker, Crim, Mammon and now Vees and Adam... Her works just lack nuance and intelligence. Some actual thought that could be put into this story.
I think Velvette is smarter than people give her credit for tbh.
Ik a lot of people think her girl boss party crashing thing was cringe, and it certainly was, but I think it was more than that honestly. She managed to delegitimize Carmilla's meeting while also making her look bad from losing control of the topic and putting some suspicion on her in the back of the other overlord's minds about the angel issue.
That's pretty smart if it was intentional and not just her making it up as they went along. It's a lot of birds with one stone.
You say something interesting about the V's. Bith Vox and Velvette seem to have some ammount of intelligence but they always end up making themselves look like fools. Vox tells Valentino that he shouldn't go around making a fuss about Angel since it would make them look bad AND weak. But as soon as he finds out Alastor is back he forgets all he just told Val and goes into the offense just to look like a mindbroken little b***h and make a fool out of himself. Velvette starts off like a dumb b***h but turns out all her moves were planned, being disrespectful, throwing the Exterminator head into the table to analyze everyone's reactions and who could have done it, mocking Zestial because she saw how angry that made Carmilla... Just to end up looking like an idiot again since she ignored all of the overlord's warnings and thinks she can wage war because she is a "bad b***h".
Tldr: The V's are Team Rocket tier incompetent.
It feels like Vox is supposed to be a tactician/planner, Velvette an analyzer/surveyer and Valentino the muscle but so far the 3 of them have failed at their jobs. And 2 of them did well until their hubris overtook them.
Lol you guys are sheltered if you never met hair trigger violent psychopaths in your life
Why does every villain have to be secretly pathetic? Why can't they just be actually intimidating? You are the sheltered one here.
>Pathetic
Anon a guy who doesnt take much to beat your ass to blood isnt pathetic hes brutal.
If you cannot make your b***h behave by simply existing then you probably are pathetic. Alastor/Zestial are a good example of brutal, not the moth boy.
Alastor is pathetically larping as if Charlie cant twist him into a pretzel the moment he pisses her off.
Charlie won't even stand up to a pimp. She's a joke.
She is a joke. I hope Big L shows up and puts Alastor in his place because that shit bothers me.
Charlie will girlboss all over him and keep him as a boytoy in her closet
Alastor's haircut is so stupid, he just lets his sideburns grow like a israeli person but he doesn't even do the funny curl thing with them, he looks so effeminate
There's probably gonna be an episode where Charlie snaps, goes full demon super form and obliterates someone tbh.
Kek imagine it's like
>Beating the face of the show
Never gonna happen.
holy fricking shit the cringe is too much to bear, my face actually started to burn
Unironically never post again, have a nice day soon if you can
How can you be mad at this, it's perfectly in line with vivzie's style of comedy and characterization
It reminds me of the dude who drew art of him and Pearl being in a relationship together.
I'm not mad it's just
The snappy edgy Constantine wannabe dialogue
The design, like if someone watched matrix and then Disney movies during all his life and tried to mix them together
The shotgun barrel, every 2000 emo kid favorite weapon
The "my OC is stronger than your OC shit"
Everything is so cringe I can feel myself levitate and ascend
So it's like Hazbin Hotel more or less
Nono, this is a lot worse
I downloaded the image to search for the artist and when I found nobody because the artist is probably a bullied kid from Wisconsin I ran to my gallery to delete it because I couldn't bear the thought of this shit being saved on my phone for one more second
You don't have reverse image search? Pathetic child. Now it's saved to your phone. Must mean you like it or something.
NOOOOOOOOOO I SWEAR TO GOD, I EVEN WENT TO THE TRASH CAN AND DELETED IT PERMANENTLY, I DONT LIKE IT DONT SAY THAT
It actually sounds like you REALLY liked the image anon. Like so much I bet you're gonna print it out and keep it on your wall.
I was wondering if that's all the cringe shit I could find on the image but then I realized
The outfit. The fricking outfit, it's 90% the fricking outfit, its like if the mad hatter had hate sex with fricking black hat from villainous and they had a son who had problems of self esteem and started doing crack
How is it any different than alastor's design tho?
ALASTOR design at least you can tell it was made so a lot of Tumblr girls would wet their panties
this was made by a kid who wanted to be as cool as possible, failing extraordinarily
I was gonna mention that, but I like hazbin hotel, I can't critize crass humor if I enjoy it from time to time, still cringe though
>I like hazbin hotel,
sad state of a human being right here.
sorry I didn't like your cringe OC post 🙁
I don't like Cringe Hazbin either, so even steven.
ARE YOU ACTUALLY THE ARTIST? Holy fricking shit mate
Who wants to know?
anon...
Nah, i'm gonna make you look for it if you're that damn curious.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the barrel literally coming out of his crotch.
artist name? I want to kill him
Is that Caleb from Blood?
>Caleb from Blood?
He seems like a cool guy, but no. Cringe OC
Yeah. But she is either unwilling to use her powers, and/or doesn't experiment with them or know their limits.
And Lucifer isn't gonna beat up his future son-in-law.
No you fricking moron he's saying ah forget it.
ALUCARD!!!!!
I mean, he can have a Naruto tier sad backstory I would still hate his guts, nothing justifies treating someone like that, I wouldn't even treat an animal like that.
In business you learn very early that niceness is weakness, if you are nice to your employees they will take advantage of that, if you are mean to them they will never take advantage of you, its simple domination psychology.
This is true if you don't want to be flexible and give some thought about every choice you make. Sometimes a happy enough employee is better than one that hates you, after all you shouldn't make enemies out of people that is supposed to work for you and be close to you. Valentino is just dumb.
It would be kinda funny if his backstory was him being a prostitute to a past overlord and being emotionally and sexually manipulated just like Angel is now. Implying that Angel is going to become Valentino in the future.
It's not I like him as a real person, but I like him as good addition to the show which gives some spicyness to it. On other hand, I could not forgive that bully from Koe no Katachi through entire movie because whole setting was just too realistic. Here in Hazbin we have gay overstylized demons sometimes doing something realistic or relatable.
I think Vivzie wanted to show other sides of him and overdid it. Your reimagination of the scene is good though
>Koe no Katachi
You did NOT have to make me remember that movie. You're right to be honest, it's hard to take things seriously when there's such a disonance between what we are seeing and what we are supposed to feel. Meanwhile settings realistic as Koe no Katachi makes you treat the characters more like actual people than just stereotypes/checkboxes.
kek good to know I wasn't the only one who had such reaction to the movie
Why are anons making a better hazbin than vivzie?
This is what a bunch of people seem to have wanted
But instead they got Invader Z, which a good show yes, wasn't super deep.
I've also been wondering if during one of his flirtations with Husk he would call him a slur by accident. Husk is voiced by an afro american so I wonder if Husk canonically was a person of color. It would most definitely be censored of course, but the implication would be there due to Angel living in the 40s which was a... less nice time to people with different skin color back then and Husk would just leave as Angel tries to apologize, but it still would show that Angel has some big problems in his personality that he needs to work on. A crack in that innocent facade we see with him.
In order for hazbin to be good, it needs to be something beyond its edgy tumblr aesthetic. So far, it hasnt proved that it is anything else.
She's sort of an ideas person, at least initially, but can't execute anything in a satisfying manner.
If there's nudity, it is or will be gay sex. Charlie won't go topless or anything, unfortunately.
>Charlie won't go topless or anything
Not every show has to appeal to the coomers.
Fujos are coomers too
Maybe they should
You have hentai already anon
But Vivzie is fine doing gay shit in HB like having a dozen dildos on screen. Is unwilling to have a female topless in Hazbin though.
Women are crybabies and it's only ok when it's males being sexualized. You've never met a "Fleshlights are mysoginistic" girl, right? They get so defensive when it's about the female body...
I'll never understand that + how is it acceptable to buy a handgun in a walmart/convenience store at 18 at the same time.
And also love celebrities like nicki minaj who show off their bodies in their music videos.
>Women are crybabies and it's only ok when it's males being sexualized. You've never met a "Fleshlights are mysoginistic" girl, right? They get so defensive when it's about the female body...
This is ironic when this board is full of men crying about gay stuff in their cartoons.
Found the woman/gay. I eat both for breakfast. AlastorCHAD btw.
You eat women out and gay dick for breakfast? wow anon, you are so progressive.
Having a dozen dildos and having somebody nude is not the same thing. You would have a case if HB were showing actual penises. And even then, the latest episode had implied flashing an audience.
Just made a joke based on the new barbie-doll anatomy everybody has
I beg mercy from you janitor-sama, there's no nudity in this in fact that's the point
Why is my spelling so chronically terrible? I swear I always got straight A grades in English
Wow, did someone here make this? You guys work fast.
Yes, me
Although I've been working on it for a little while, it's just a subject that's been brought up a while since people were hoping no youtube rules means we can FINALLY get an english native cartoon with sexy nipples and/or genitals. I seriously can't remember an American cartoon having that since the titty mermaid in Beavis and Butthead do America
Rush that hellhound to the hospital to get her body pumped. She can't shit anymore.
Loona can't shit anymore. She's gonna explode.
Because they deserve it
Look at these shitters
I cringed hardest during the songs but then again I still watched all the episodes.
>How many times did you cringe during the first episode
I turned it off after the 4th time.
Charlie is till cute tho.
my parents cringed when i showed it to them, so that reinforced my decision to watch the fandom from afar, and laugh at vivziepoop for mocking the bible.
I don't understand why Adam looks like an edgy court jester.
they hate jesus truth.
and profanity would absolutely not occur from any people from heaven.
twowitnessesofrevelation.com
>cringe during first viewing
>rewatch and end up singing along
episode 4 was the best
and angel dust is my favorite character
Angel Dust would be killer at scalp massages, four hands.
Episode 4 was by far the best (and only enjoyable one).
Angel's voice actor actually had a good performance for once.
I want to get boinked in the butt by Angel
None, I'm not a redditor.
Based.
>I'm not a redditor
correct, you're the only thing worse than a redditor: a tumblrina.
>singing along
I am 90% sure the tune of every song was stolen.
In other news, a lot of music exists.
I stopped watching after the first 3 minutes.
True story - so in the house I grew up in, the military was everything. My room from the ages of 2 to 15 had Nascar and navy shit in it. I didn't put it there, my mother did. Her alcoholic parents included a prostitute mother and absentee dad. Both were in the army and she wanted to raise me to be a "real man". She was never in the military because she didn't like taking orders or not doing drugs.
I was 12 when 9/11 happened I thought I was going to get drafted into a war with Saudi Arabic and asked my dad "Do I have to join the army?" He's a marine who was in vietnam. He said, 'no'. Mom screamed at him to shut up and that he was a liar.
My sister did join the military, specifically the navy. She was one of the 50% of all female military personnel who ended up getting raped. Thanks mom.
After 911 the US Navy did recruitment ads, and Keith David was the voice of these ads for years on end. He's the new VA for Husk of Hazbin Hotel.
I fricking hate Keith David with a passion, and hope he burns in hell for selling his soul, and convincing so many young people to do the same. Frick him, frick Amazon, and frick this cartoon.
damn, bruh
>I stopped watching after the first 3 minutes.
I stopped watching after the 1st 30 seconds because it just sucks, bruh. I don't need to give the internet my life story to justify it.
He clearly just wants to tell you he isn't a typical based chud who quit out of homophobia, but a sophisticated traumatized individual who hates blacks.
I wrote it. I'm not homophobic or racist. I just really do hate him. Couldn't finish the disney frog movie either.
>I'm not homophobic or racist.
Go back.
you sound like a fricking beast
that sounds very gay
>be me
>join army
>never my intention because I was a noodle-armed computer nerd
>recruiter gays came to my high school and it got me thinking
>wanted to save parents expense for college
>not impressed with college/academia gays either
>college recruiters training us to fill out government welfare forms
>figured I could earn money, get electronics trade, get physically jacked, do my time, then get out while still young
>not my first priority, but would have done muh patriotic 'service guarantees citizenship' shit as well
>go to discuss with parents
>taken aback at how quickly they were ready to ship me out quite frankly
>didn't really get why
>loving parents, good people, not loser arseholes or anything
>never thought about it but my Dad failed physical for the Navy back in the day and always imagined in-his-own-mind how good it 'would have been'
>didn't realise how much until he wanted me to join Navy instead
>weirded out because he never tried to do any shit like that before
>frick that, I get carsick, so no way I'm getting on a goddamned boat
>Navy full of homosexuals anyway
>SonIamDisappoint.jpg
>come back home after a year
>"MY SON who is in the Army!" to all the neighbours
>ffs really?
>treated like I'm some kind of war hero
>cringe shit I FRICKING HATED
>disillusioned with military itself pretty quick
>a lot of arsehole government workers who can't hack it in the real world wasting tax $
>have no honour
>mostly a bunch of horseshit
>leave after I did my time, honourable discharge
>never look back, never claimed benefits or pension, never want to deal with them or government again
>still think military is a legit govt function and necessary evil
>standing armies are full of bloated frickery though
>civilians have a distorted idea of it from TV
>they should never worship these gays
>"Thank you for your service" is cuckery
Overreacting because parents were 'muh military' is just as gay as kids of uber-Christcucks becoming 'God le bad' homosexuals like Viv.
When I was little, like 6 or 7, my gandpa had his combined Korea and Vietnam medals in a shadowbox. I though they were what men had for israeliteelry and I loved those medals so much. His MOS was a medical helicopter pilot and he was essentially flying to men who were already dead or in the immediate process of dying half the time. We had his aviator wings in the box, but my aunt got those.
He blew the top of his head off in a bathtub when I was 7 because of the PTSD the government insisted was not real. I don't remember what his voice sounded like. I want my grandpa back, and I hate those damned medals.
Frick the military. If I ever had a kid and the kid is drafted or tried to join the military, I'm shooting them in the knee.
>True story - so in the house I grew up in, the military was everything. My room from the ages of 2 to 15 had Nascar and navy shit in it. I didn't put it there, my mother did. Her alcoholic parents included a prostitute mother and absentee dad. Both were in the army and she wanted to raise me to be a "real man". She was never in the military because she didn't like taking orders or not doing drugs.
it sounds like your mom tried, and you still ended up being a whiny pussy that posts on 4 Chan why don’t you take a veterans last surrender and have a nice day
Not bad, I may dislike her less now
You really can't make a "real man," huh? Despite this, you still turned into a little b***h. I feel sorry for your sister because even after what happened, she won't have a man to support her, just another sister.
>She was one of the 50% of all female military personnel who ended up getting raped.
But I thought they were all gays in that branch?
I have nothing personal against Keith David, Amazon or Hazbin hotel, but, frick Keith David, Amazon or Hazbin hotel too.
It’s posts like these that make this site worth it sometimes
Yeah anon, that's tough. Maybe watch something older to calm down. They have all seasons of Gargoyles on Disney+.
That show was the bomb.
incredible
I saw a clip of the 4-armed sock puppet guy having gay bdsm rape(?) sex while doing drugs on here. Looked up more about the show on youtube and found another clip where sock puppet guy is getting slapped around with a cringy monologue by his pimp or something with like 4 trigger warnings, figured it probably wasn't my thing. Can't tell if this show is meant to be for adults with the sex shit or for teenage girls with the overexaggerated abusive pimp monologue.
Wait until you find out the 4-armed sock puppet used to be a human mafioso from the 40s and took it up the ass.
It was a joke.
>"Catching, not pitching?"
Not once. Honestly, I had kind of caught the doomer vibes the schizos had been putting out hard the past few months and was worried it was gonna be awful, especially after Scott Pilgrim destroyed my hopes and expectations so hard, but it was pretty nice overall and I can't wait to watch the new episodes with my boyfriend next week.
>doomer
>my boyfriend
You're full of shit, anon. You can't have a boyfriend and be a doomer! You're just fake and gay.
That's why I said the vibes and not the full mentality. You never go full doom
Now your just gay cause you liked Vivs fake demon trash.
They didn't say they were a doomer, anon. They said there were doomer vibes from the reviews. Reading comprehension, damn you.
yeah! I'm a stupid illiterate idiot, What of it!!??
You're not stupid anon. The school system is stupid and people expect way too much immediate personal investment in posts on the internet. Sorry.
>You're not stupid anon.
I'm stupid and drunk. I wouldn't blame the school system for that.
Perhaps but you still deserve a hug.
more people dissing on viv's work is my hug. i'll take that.
>thanks either way
Fem Shadow is for Dr. Eggman
You have to be mildly drunk to enjoy series like this.
YTou have to be able to embrace the cringe instead of being repelled by it.
I;m mildly drunk right now and i'm watching the series and enjoying it.
I probably wouldn't enjoy it sober.
I don't watch it. I'm not paying for it. I do watch Helluva Boss because Brandon Rogers is doing it and he made sure all the pilot VAs still had jobs. Viv didn't do that.
I watch yt vids on the lore, but that's where it ends, and even then it's lost it's shine now.
I thought it was neat
It has a lot of obvious flaws and a lot of obvious qualities
I think people shitting on it are just primed to hate it and would excuse similar flaws in something they were primed to like
I can understand thinking vizie is a c**t tho, and I'm still mad that apparently all their efforts went to this and so S2 of helluva boss turned into the shitshow we all know
>a lot of obvious qualities
if you just turn these things on mute, they're not ugly to look at.
> would excuse similar flaws in something they were primed to like
I typically don't watch a lot of shows with the same flaws that exist in Viv's work because her work is uniquely bad. I'm in doomer mode because there just aren't as many good NEW things being made.
Helluva WAS a show made for me, but it started to become something that I can't forgive, not because it's change in plot direction, but because I gave me hope for the future of animation.
Embrace the Hella. Brandon Rogers will not lead us astray. He had the balls to do Cornbread in 2023, and he will put his foot down on bullshit. We're getting the Circus Cartoon. We're getting more of the Death Love and Robots on Netflix.
It's there, but there's bullshit in the mix. There's pee pee in the ink. Someone drew a dick on Mickey.
but helluva has been absolute garbage for what, 7 episodes straight now ? Who the frick still has any hope for it
>Someone drew a dick on Mickey.
I can draw dick on Mickey any day of the week, and meanwhile they gotta blur out Dildos for the youtube audience.
This show sucks.
They're on YT and need to bypass the age block because people don't want to make whole new accounts to see the cartoon show.
Blame youtube catering to corporate ad wiener sucking.
I get the feeling they'd censor them anyway.
Also they could ALSO post these videos on newgrounds or porn hub? Sure they'd have to deal with reposters, but the only public version we're getting are pussy whipped censored versions. Stop making excuses when there are ways to still show wiener.
They're never going to show Demon wiener live and raw, what's the point?
Okay, so if they post the show to pornhub, and thus ruin any chance of the show getting picked up by a major distributor using corporate morality, all for minimal gain from the 00.01% of people who want to see a cartoon dildo, would you be happy then, or are you looking for things to complain about out of boredom?
Helluva isn't going to get "picked up" at this point. the show is it's own thing. It's more indie than Hazbin because it replies on patreon supporters, merch and youtube revenue.
I'm complaining that no cartoons show animated DICK. Noone actually draws Penis or the vegana in these cartoons when adult stuff from the 70s had no fear.
There are a lot of people (myself included) who developed fetishes from watching non-porn cartoons as kids/teenagers, like Tigress from Kung-Fu Panda making me into a degenerate today. Now imagine how bad the youngsters watching this show would become in 10 years if it had actual full-blown breasts, wieners and porn with their characters. I'm not a "won't somebody think of the children!!!" type of guy, but that's a bit much even for me.
>God’s patience has limits
Ftfy. God’s love is infinite
please explain infinite punishment for the dammed then.
>you know this avatar the last airvender show is now at Ep FOUR, and it sucks
>i can tell at ep FOUR airbender will never be good
(i realize not the same, and hazbin will end with mediocre ending soon)
But i'm still making a point.
>>you know this avatar the last airvender show is now at Ep FOUR, and it sucks
>>i can tell at ep FOUR airbender will never be good
It had a slow start but it didn't have a bad one.
I don't think I can name a genuinely bad episode outside of the great divide.
Any that focused on Zuko.
I skipped the Charlie song because it was too cringy.
Generally don't like musical numbers, they have to be earned and not forced. Those were the only true cringe for me. It's a fine show otherwise with a humorous take on hell. The characters are everywhere, some good, some forgettable, some so bad you wanna see just how shit they can make the next ones. I guess it's hooked me there.
I'm gonna say it: if you really cringe at show outside of scenes you're meant to cringe to you're a b***h ass motherfricker who probably doesn't share his opinions because you're scared of what people may think of you
This is an anonymous image board, the only time I ever lie is when I'm taking multiple sides in a moronic argument to piss people off. Literally why lie about what you think to a bunch of anonymous people?
I'm not taking specifically about this series, I'm saying that you cringing about any series makes me able to know things about how you live your life
why do you cringe? you cringe because you are a b***h ass homie scared of other people judgement
When I cringe at watching gym rekt videos it's not because I don't want to lose status or some shit, it's because it's unpleasant to watch. I have no friends, my family has no knowledge of the things I watch, so who's judgement exactly am I afraid of facing from other people? I binged the entirety of the Beastars manga last month and enjoyed it (until the shitty ending), and yet cringed out of this show before even finishing the first episode. Why? Because it was unpleasant and I didn't like it.
it doesn't matter if you don't have any friends or family, if you cringe you still are guided by the feelings of internet people or whoever you interact with, if someone was raised outside of society, they wouldnt cringe, so its obvious that the thing that causes cringe is the judgement of other people
How bad was the ending? I've read the first few issues but forgot about it.
90% of the plot threads and characters set-up go nowhere and it ends super abruptly with a slideshow hastily explaining what happened to some of the characters. It also includes a really stupid tournament arc (author is the daughter of Baki creator btw) that feels way out of place and also goes nowhere, along with introducing literal jojo stands that don't come into play whatsoever after their introduction (other than 1 throwaway mention). And I haven't even brought up the main antagonist yet, who is basically 2019 Joker except his motivation for being evil is that he had a bad childhood. If you want to read it just go up until you see Melon for the first time then close the manga and invent a headcanon ending, trust me when I say you'll be more satisfied that way.
Isn't her relationship with her dad Miyazaki-tier strained? I know thats a running theme for mangakas
I would guess so, weird paternal relationships (or lack thereof) are a running theme in the story now that I think about it
Helluva boss is just filled with characters with daddy issues and abuser is always over the top bad guy with no qualities other than being piece of shit. Is viv trying to tell us something?
I cringed.
and I don't give a frick anon, you a weak ass homie and you will never be free if you cringe at things as minimal as this one
based cringe proof gay anon
Thanks, wanna make out? You can even wear my sonichu medallion.
>Hazbin
>minimally cringe
Can something be tasteful and cringy?
Is it good to appreciate tasteful things?
Is good taste connected to society or is it connected to virtues that surpass culture and environment?
You're a bit far out with your questions. People will find the entire concept of good taste vs bad taste provocative enough.
I haven't even watched this cartoon, I just see the push against cringe come up sometimes and I wonder what's going on with it.
The argument that we shouldn't allow society to peer pressure us if we like something is valid, its good to grow a backbone and just like what you like, ofcourse.
But at the same time cringing at something is valid within reason, it means we've consciously or subconsciously identified something we consider flawed.
It can be connected to society or our social groups, but it can also simply be connected to personal experiences. One of the anons making the argument cited someone raised outside of society not cringing, but I disagree, because they might cringe at a premise that they believe is antithetical with their experiences achieving their own goals in life.
it can include society/peer-pressure but it isn't the whole story.
>I haven't even watched this cartoon
then why bother posting, it's 20 minute cartoon, are you that fricking bored?
Flush already and get up.
Maybe I might be interested in watching it sometime and the shitposting about cringe caught my interest
Ever notice how the people who make a big deal out of "embracing cringe" also are the ones who will get the most butthurt about a property being called just that?
Instead of truly acknowledging something as cringe, with everything it entails, they will try to reframe cringe as this cool rebellious thing. Ultimately their tastes will remain perpetually underdeveloped and childish, compared to someone continuously developing a critical eye.
Well, because they like the property and instead of just saying its a guilty pleasure for them, or suggesting that maybe the cringing individual isn't the target demographic they try to suggest something is wrong with that person.
Then they carry being cringy as a badge, I suppose to try to get ahead of it when they're called cringe or something.
People find all sorts of reasons to carry baggage.
>developing a critical eye
There's a slippery slope to that too but as long as they remain focused on the art/media/personal craft being refined by objective standards its good. It matters more for people who want to become writers or artists or what-have-you, but its also good if a demographic exists that has an interest in quality products to enjoy.
friend I know who put down money to see this series come to life but stopped after awhile seeing Vivzie's frickery. He held out hope but apparently he only watched one episode and was like "I'm done man".
I find it weird too because all the people I assume would be super into this and would be on board with pushing it on twitter or IG or some shithole also say they don't like the redeisgns enough to not give it a chance, or the humor in episode 1 alone is deterring them.
>seeing Vivzie's frickery.
What did she do, actually do?
Having shit opinions isn't "frickery"
transphobic remarks has made her a persona non grata
they were like 10 years ago and has since written trans characters on her show, also, who gives a shit
trannies do
It is if it's foot in mouth opinions like catering to sensitive twitter fanbase and then going against the grain about SA depiction. Noticed even her best defenders mention things are usually fine until she makes a fricking tweet.
Yes it is. She engages in frickery. She worships celebrity culture and Broadway and wants to scramble her way up the ladder.
With those cankles? Better take the ramp.
Design wise every one is pretty negligible, Husk honestly got an upgrade both design and voice wise. Alastor took a hit but is still recognizable, tho I can see why people are pissed at his pilot version really was the star of the cast. Angel dust got the biggest downgrade voice wise, it's actually grating hearing him talk at times, they basically flanderized the flaming gay aspect of the original voice and took all the depth away.
anyone knows the discord server of the leaker? and if everyone can enter?
yeah. It's a white supremacist discord. It's called "You're a man no matter what everyone tells you". To join the server you have to send the moderators a DM saying "I hate black people and Vivziepop" and post a picture of your favorite hazbin character to get in. They already got episodes 5-7.
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Why fire all your voice actors when the show gets picked up?
Because the so-called community/industry is full of backstabbers.
Remember this kids!
The voice cast for the actual show is painful, the main actress is fine but the rest are very forced and the "natural" millennial speak is made worse by the fact the actors are clearly not in the same room like it's not natural at all someone wrote these lines and the actors are reading them out with wildly inconsistent tones
I can't tell if they're being sincere or salty
sucks how viv will throw anybody under the bus.
probably why brock baker doesn't voice stolas in helluva boss
When Adam said "chillax" I completely lost it.
I would cringe if any character in any show, movie, game, book, anything, said "chillax". But Adam? Frick off.
The only likeable one to me is Husk ngl. His little bit with Angel Dust in ep 4 was cute but I do not ship them. I really hope they stay as friends.
>I really hope they stay as friends.
Anon.....W*men CANNOT comprehend male friendship. She WILL make them bang and you will like it.
I hope that fujo hangs herself one day
they will frick and I will like it
>i'm here to chew ass and kick bubblegum
>and i'm all out of bubblegum
If you haven't watched Helluva Boss to know that everyone is hyper sexualized 24/7 even Moxxie then you are really setting yourself up for disappointment.
Maybe but Husk actually is likeable to me. I have seen Helluva Boss but Unhappy Camper made me drop the show entirely
The Moxxie stuff was so out of character. I don't even blame anyone who drops the entire show because the campers episode is just plain awful. I think people b***hed about Millie too just simply unable to understand: its fine to have a heterosexual couple with a flat character arc. They were cute, and I think that works even better, that they have to navigate in a shithole where everyone is a total freak, ultrasexual deviant.
tell me, is there any episode I SHOULD watch that’s after unhappy camper? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS SHIT AFTER IT.
I skipped through one of the songs and the first word I heard was "bitch." immediately kek'ed.
which song, I'm curious, is it the latina meeting one
>Hitler isn’t in Hell
What did they mean by this?
he is
IIRC she said dictators and pedophiles souls get destroyed and don't go to hell
>get spared from the eternal torture
what did she mean by this?
Both those things are in hell, see
How does that work though? Do angels just inmediately incinerate them? Does someone has a list of all pedophiles and racists that they can find and inmediately exterminate? Why wouldn't they allow them to stay in Hell so they make things miserable for everyone else, since that's the point of hell? If Charlie's okay with this, then doesn't that mean she agrees with Heaven somewhat that some people do deserve to be exterminators?
It's a weird correction said on twitter like Steven Universe or Harry Potter so they don't have to deal with it, but it doesn't make any sense.
Exactly and that also brings in the point, what happens to all soldiers who die in the dozens of bullshit wars we've had in the last century? Surly hell should be filled of millions of militants who would probably carry over their grudges and blood lust and setting up their own regimes, yet all the top dogs down below seems to be just regular ass people who happened to be major buttholes and probably maybe murdered a few people in a rage.
>Spend time shooting Nazis
>Die in a bed surrounded by family hoping to be in heav-
>In hell.
>Surrounded by trannies who call you a fascist.
>Turns out fighting nazis in the war was still helping a racist america win and you are a bad guy for that reason.
>Wait I thought this version of hell doesn't allow racis-
>Thanos snap fade away
That's why there is no heaven until you stop giving a shit about if you sinned or not. Everyone goes to hell until they're over it.
>everyone goes to hell
Even the rapees? Shit that is gotta be awkward.
>Rape someone
>They are in hell too.
Is it wrong to get back together if that is the case?
To some yes, that's why most non buttholes just hand wave away a lot of religious shit because they know the rules are dumb and pointless.
The more fundamentalist zealots stone rape victims to death for no longer being useful virgins to marry off to their uncles.
You know its true, that non knows its true, everyone knows it's true, we all just usually ignore it because they are third worlders and mean frick all most of the time.
You got to get to get revenge because the pain you have still lives in you. You spend eternity trying to undo the pain the rapist caused but in the end its not going to undo what happened. You turn the other cheek and find love with yourself again. Heaven has been achieved.
>In hell with your rapist
>Alright time to get my revenge
>Dobson comic ending.jpg
He is/was. Probably got btfo pretty quick though
He would be permakilled pretty quickly.
Wouldn't there be a lot of people who'd be ready to defend him? He could probably create a whole new army and keep himself safe with their help.
How do people recognize an infamous person once they end up in Hell, anyway? Everyone turns into furries that have a varying amount of humanoid features. For example Alastor has a fairly human face while Husk looks like a cat and Angel Dust is a weird hairy thing. Also, a lot of people seem to pick a nickname or an alias instead of using the names they had when they were alive. How do you know who any sinner used to be back when they were alive?
y r u so obsessed with hitler
My biggest issue with the show, and Helluva Boss by virtue, is that there aren't any character personalities. All of them feel very, VERY one note
Charlie is a tryhard cheerful girl who harbors sadness
Vaggie is her tryhard lesbo support who harbors sadness
Angel Dust is an emotional baggage of sadness
You notice a pattern? They feel very one dimensional. And I'm aware that it's only been 4 episodes, but judging from their previous work, I doubt it'll improve. It's been 2 seasons of Helluva Boss, and they keep repeating the same plot points and story while never improving the character personalities. This would be fine for an episodic show, but both shows are clearly meant to be story driven
The only characters that feel interesting who don't fall into the Vivian trap are Alestor and the cyclops midget. They stand out because they don't share the same traits as 90% of the show's characters, which is either sex or sadness
its pretty clear that nearly every single character has daddy issues.
Not really. The last 3 episodes are really bad imo, but season 2 overall is just not good, with campers being the absolute worst episode of the entire show. The last episode is visually pleasing, but everything else sucks in it.
Hey it's that cartoon girl that belongs to that cool homie
only good post ITT
Verbalise is tall though
Some these characters are tall as frick. I think Charlie might be taller than him too
this better?
>pays for a single 2 minute animation of him fricking his waifu
>becomes a meme and people make art about it for free
That 50k wasn't payment, it was an investment. What a genius
>First episode
Wait, what ? I thought that shit was released for years since Cinemaphile spammed the b***h as their new waifus.
>Only 4 episodes
Really, years and years of waiting for...ONLY four episodes? What the frick, so much of it was completely mediocre too. What a travesty. It only really picked up at the end and a lot of that was thanks to Keith David.
Okay I'm seeing how they desperately spaced it out to get more time for people to watch and talk about it, 4 more episodes coming. Still, 8 feels measly. This was supposed to be a professional production this time around...
I watched the first episode...Man was that bad. Not only can the b***h not sing but I don't think the writers understand what "Redemption" means. To them, its just an excuse to be gays not understanding that part of redemption means you stop doing the awful shit you do.
Or if even the people of hell deserve redemption. Do they want redemption or are they only mad that they got punished for their degeneracy and regret that their actions had consequences. Insert joke about women and responsibility here.
Can't wait to see the episode where they tackle how Freddy Kruger, child murderer and child molester extraordinaire, is worthy of salvation.
If you watched Helluva Boss, Hell is basically just inner city America. Like there's even an episode where they go to the country. There's no worldbuilding forethought that goes into this shit, it's just Star Wars in "Hell".
Like it's interesting that you post Hellblazer there. It's not like they had the worldbuilding for that setting set in stone at any point either. But (the good) writers kept it simple and focused on John's adventures.
God I miss good Hellblazer. The last years of the run was just total dogshit. Spurrier picking it back up was incredible.
>No worldbuilding
Because Hellblazer was set squarely in contemporary London of the time. It didn't need to build a world as Constantine is, for all intents and purposes, just some butthole dealing with paranormal horrors. And that's ignoring the crossovers with DC alumni like Swamp Thing or other Vertigo stuff. Hazbin is just gay people being awful while screaming empty platitudes of "redemption" with little understanding of what that means.
>Last years of the run
I dropped the series when Peter Mulligan took over. Not a fan of his writing in general. Never did finish his "Tank Girl: Odyssey" book.
>Spurrier
Hard disagree. His Sandman Universe run had no balls. I dropped that after the lame mermaid story. I hear he's got another shot but I think its due to Hellblazer being so depreciated after the Tom Taylor book that no one cares about John anymore. And reading the first couple of pages of the "Dead in the USA" bit, neither does Simon.
Well, I said "no worldbuilding" as something of hyperbole for Hellblazer. There definitely was worldbuilding in the sense that pacts and promises mattered and there were vague rules of engagement that meant that the forces of Hell and Heaven couldn't just skullfrick any random person they pleased. I felt the Tate Club was a good addition to the worldbuilding to provide organizational structure to magic.
Yeah the entirety of the Peter Mulligan run was godawful, just the worst shit ever. Seriously you dodged a bullet there.
>Spurrier
It's been a while but I liked the mermaid story. Like that's what Hellblazer was all about, taking these magical things and spinning the myths around in the cold ways of the setting like they did with the Beast, the logical conclusion of African blood magic, Eden, deals with the devil. It's how Neil Gaiman does it he takes a fantasy thing and makes a spin on it that is familiar but strangely unique. It was nice to have familiar references to Christian lore in between all the times John goes to jail or deals with the mob or something.
I haven't read Dead in America, I didn't know it existed until. But look, I'll concede your point that it's probably dogshit because it features Dream. And well, that just sounds like a cash grab more than something made out of a love of either of those properties. I know John's ancestor dealt with the Endless but I really don't want to revisit the notion that the Endless would turn to John for anything.
I concede that there was indeed some worldbuilding in Hellblazer, taken from various occult sources on how to deal with demons and angels, but yes. It kept Armageddon at bay at least.
>Spurrier
As many many others have pointed out, he's Warren Ellis but not as good. And that's not a knock given Warren Ellis was the guy who taught him. Simon likes to memoryhole this but that's not the point. He did the thing where he introduced characters (Hippie Dude) but when given the chance, didn't kill him off. There is also a mischaracterization that John Constantine "Protected London" which isn't really the case.
I cut him some slack cause we're four reboots in at this point but it just reminds me that all those reboots were unnecessary.
>Dead in America
Too early to tell. He's also using memberberries (You have Swamp thing and Dream showing up which is a bad sign. I'm surprised the worthless deaf kid and token dyke weren't killed off but this isn't the Hellblazer of old. And I don't expect a British Dude who doesn't live in the States to write life there authentically or as anything but a collection of stereotypes.
>Diet Warren Ellis
That's a really high bar to meet. I can't fault a guy for trying to be that. And I can't fault anybody for being that because it doesn't happen. And what I mean by that is that it's so fricking rare someone identifies a good thing (Ellis) and tries to emulate that. Like we don't live in a world where good things result in more good things being made, they only result in shit things getting made. To me what Spurrier did was just so much better coming off of that sewage Mulligan introduced that I actually felt like someone had some idea of what Hellblazer was about after yeah like god knows how many reboots.
Like I fricking hated the hippie dude too. But I think that was kinda the point of the character. Because there have been hundreds if not thousands of yogis who have claimed mystical powers to achieve peace and formed sex cults and that hippie just feels like one step from that. And if not, I felt like it's not terrible that someone would have the restraint to use the occult in a safe way (until they run into Constantine). Yeah, sure the hippie should be a stain BUT so should the Judge Hershey bar keep... and well she's hot so keeping the hippie around is the cost of keeping her around.
>spoiler
>bad sign
Yeah that's a bad sign alright.
I wouldn't disqualify an outsider to not be able to write about America. There's a quote about American (crayfish) in the UK and that is "they've eaten the natives". And it's basically true of any urban center in any part of the world. The definition of "cosmopolitan" may as well be synonymous with "American". And in regards to rural America there is a perfect analog in the UK, which can be described as "you live in a town, go to church, play sport; but then you go to a neighbouring town and they go to a different church and play a different sport, and the town past that one plays the same sport and goes to the same church as your town." The stereotypes DO hit home somewhere.
>Hippie Dude
Well, the point of him was that he was lied to. It ties back into what the old hag said about every other magician somehow being dead and there was nobody to protect London. Again, that's not what Constantine did but lets forget that for a moment.
The moment Hippie Dude faced a REAL THREAT, he should have been killed off. It's the same problem I had with the James Tynion book where they introduced that Black token "Heckblazer" chick who they characterized as "Constantine without all the frickups". Someone like that would get eaten alive in the world of Hellblazer i.e. in a Horror story where bad guys can and usually win. Only someone as fricked in the head as John Fricking Constantine can survive this shit without killing himself.
>America
It's a mixed bag. Even when Garth Ennis did that with the Preacher, living in America, some of the shit doesn't work. At best, you can only lightly touch upon daily life but if you try anything deeper, the locals just scratch their head going "That's not how that works". I could be wrong and the internet age has helped mitigate this what with Google maps being able to take you anywhere but I won't hold my breath.
Yeah, I've completely forgotten this is a Hazbin Hotel thread too. I'd hate to see how Charlie would try to redeem the Family Man. A serial killer who primarily went after people's families. Or that guy in Andy Diggle's run who sealed people's souls into their bodies before eating them.
>James Tynion Heckblazer.
Yeah I didn't know this existed either. And I feel like the fury I feel at reading that sentence confirms something I feel about John and that is John is dead as a thing, that no writer is going to do John right because they're being paid in peanuts. The property is just going to be tossed around because he's a pitch/formula that works (occult Englishman douchebag) and they're going to rape his corpse because I don't know they need to renew the license or it's a loss that can be used to pay less taxes. The only reason why I read Spurrier's run is because it's Spurrier, it's a name I trust, which is becoming a rare thing in this world of comics.
I think it's reasonable to keep the hippie around only to kill him later. Just an idea, let him touch fire once, not learn the lesson, and finally burn him the next go around. John needed a new posse, I think a writer should be given the latitude to give John an ally of the writer's chosing to facilitate the story.
>America
To me, the only thing you really need to capture rural America is the poverty, and it's all the same whether you live in the UK, America, or Russia where supply chains ensure a steady supply of food, drugs and alcohol, which not only erodes individuals but without the need for social interaction means that people no longer lean on each other in rough times. And I think on purpose or by accident writers capture a surface level portrayal this because the empty buildings and sad looking people is real as all the youth have left to chase money. But I agree it could be done smarter, like Scalped did.
The thing about Preacher that shattered the suspension of disbelief, the "that's not how it works" feeling was the high concentration of moral and sexual deviants in the story. It wasn't a misrepresentation of rural America, it was just plainly tasteless, disgusting and stupid, which is consistent with most of Ennis' writing if you ask me.
I turned it off the moment I heard angel dust speak, he sounds like a fricking nerd. Why is everyone saying there's barely a difference? There is and I hate it
I watch it because Alastor is my husband
IS VIV /ourgal/?
https://twitter.com/amoratelier_/status/1748803098729193601
TKD
What the heck I love HH now??
>bringing up shit from years ago
Pathetic.
Shit drawings too.
The OP is more racist than vivziepop in ironically, saying that a woman is a israeli caricature because she is fat and loves money is like saying a monkey is a black caricature because it reminds you of them
(me)
You have to be really fricking racist or at least have a good knowledge of it to make all of this connections
also, Nazi OC for sausage party if fricking hilarious, I love Vivziepop now
this shit is fricking nothing. I don't like viv as much as the next guy but this is pathetic
Wtf I love Vivz and HH now
Are zoomers too moronic to get The Producers references now?
Love when untreated mental illness gets enabled by moronic shit like this.
Rosie is a reference to Barbra Streisand's version of Dolly
Oh I see they acknowledged that. Eh.
That dumb israelite can’t even spell her name right.
Do I need a shitter account to view threads? I think I'll just stay ignorant.
i hate viv but these are all insane reaches aside from the rosie "israeli mother" thing
Imagine hating anyone over social media bullshit
i hate her because she's an insufferable cow and her shows suck ass anon
Yes but it you who choose to care.
>art troon makes a callout post to promote herself
Every single time with them
oy vey
>see call-out vivziepop/Hazbin post
>go to the account
>failed artist whose most liked twitter is about Hazbin
Many such cases
sure. Viv's a dime-a-dozen 2010s deviantart artist, but had daddy's money to carry her further than the rest.
>homosexual israelite screeching about antisemitism for attention
if you can't tell from the art alone, that's a woman
>homosexual
It's a fujoshi. A pooner. A girltroon who larps as a homosexual
Really wishing Tumblr didn't commit seppuku so that these sorts of morons never left their containment site. Them posting on the normie sites gives them false credibility it seems
For all the whining about X these types do, they seem to be sticking to the site pretty stubbornly, wonder why
The problem with Xitter is it's sucked up a bunch of the social space, so that you can find basically every subculture that wouldve had its own website back in the day there
Happy Day in Hell is the cringiest scene of the entire show, and everything after that was better.
I mean, thats kindof the point I think, "that b***h is halfway down the street" and all
I think it was meant to be a funny Disney parody but it was just cringey
>How many times did you cringe during the first episode
anything with adam, which is funny because I was one of the few anons that believed the performance would make the script lines sound less worse that it was.
Not a single time because I'm not a coward afraid of other people judgements, the only thing I didn't like was the song of episode 3, the one from Camille
Just binged the first 4 episodes. The musical numbers are really fricking good.
Some of the dialog made me cringe. I actually liked the songs though.
Zero. But it was the first time where I was genuinely annoyed at how many times they swore. Thankfully that problem is (mostly) solved by episode 2
I wanna frick this imp.
He's gonna frick you, alright.
How do you know that? All imps are small.
>random anti military sentiment in thread
Weird and not cool
Good, frick the military, we waste too much money on it
This.
We have nukes for days. Just use those on the problems and be done with it.
What if the problems have nukes
I didnt watch it
I cringed quite a bit during all of the episodes. Episode 4 even for how focused it is at least, I have to say that the story in it is not very compelling to me due to how much of a non-threatening and dumb villain Vox is.
>Leak has Pentious dying in the season finale while fighting the angels
>The rebuilt Hotel from the cards doesn't show any Pentious imagery, but does have Husk and Angel imagery.
Pentiousbros...I'm nervous.
with leaks do you mean that homosexual that was in a thread the day of the premiere? he was talking shit anon, don't believe anyone here until they give you proof
Thing is Viv talks a lot so we know someone is dying at the end of the first season. Could be bullshit but I guess if Cherri shows up this week and Pentious has a crush on her like the leaker said, he's fricked.
yeah, did you read the thing about him being fricked by cherri? that's my signal to know that my favorite snake is gonna die
>The rebuilt Hotel from the cards doesn't show any Pentious imagery
the apple thing at the front looks like it's partly based around his frills and eye motif
While surfing I found Some Habin Version of Wormwood and Screwtape from the book wrote by C.S. Lewis
I'd love to see areference to that book but I diubt vivzie has ever heard about these two
>watch show
>wiener pussy anal breasts baby we're in fricking hell frick angels frick heaven shitty frick sex *blonde demon girl singing about how much she loves hell*
summed it up for you
Also the issue with songs in Episode 3 is basically that there is no build up to the relationships between characters. There is no build up to rivalry between Carmilla and Velvette so them suddenly bursting into song feels out of nowhere and hollow and we do not know enough about Carmilla or even Vaggie to make the second song feel in any way earned. Songs are meant to be culmination of emotions build up in characters, but they just jump straight into the emotional climax with no begging or middle part.
RL;DR. Viv has NO patience. What else is new?
Only when the sang. Somehow the songs are really terrible, and break the flow.
A lot.
This guy wasted 50,000 dollars on a crappy video.
Sexo
Does Alastor not do anything this season? He was such high a popular character but I barely hear anyone talk about him besides his Vox rivalry.
This is how the season will end:
>Alastor's head to Charlie:
>Charlie, let it go... It is not a sin to fight for the right cause.. there is those who words alone will not reach. Adam is such a being... I know how you feel Charlie, you are gentle... you do not like to hurt. I know because I too have learnt these feelings... but it's because you cherish life that you must protect it. Please... drop your restraints. Protect the life I once loved... you have the strength, I sensed it..
>Just.. let it go..
>*Adam crushes Alastor's head*
So why IS there no nudity? They finally got the R rating without Youtube jannies, they can even say "c**t" but they gave everybody null anatomy.
Because in America, murder and gore is okay but seeing some breasts and vagoo is not.
Except they age restrict that too
Not even adults are allowed to see breasts.
They didn't even put big breasts in the show. You know who this is for.
gays? 15 year old Tumblrinas?
They didnt put giant bulges either so I think its just them not wanting to be sexually crass.
>to be sexually crass.
What is Angel??
Angel doesnt show any actual skin. He is just extremely mildly suggestive.
Isn't it weird how people who claim to be sex positive only want to talk about fudgepackers?
Because men are gross when there is women involved! We only want twinks that look like women talk about their dicks and kiss other boys!
T. moronic Fujo
For me, it's Vortex licking my balls after I've slathered them with peanut butter.
It's cognitive dissonance. They want to defy their Christian roots and be pro-sodomism while at the same time they can't escape the discomfort that their Christiam upbringing created for sexuality. They rationalize this in any way you can expect.
I'll never understand why my country is so anti sex.
It was founded by puritans kicked out of europe for being schizos. because of puritans you get circumcised too to this very day.
And to this very day the puritanical brainrot is present in the collective psyche of your nation. Left or right, it doesn't matter. it's always neo-puritans with americans.
While puritanism is moronic and prudish, most people here only want nudity to jack off and not out of any artistic license or integrity. There is a difference between not being opposed to nudity in media and being a brain rotted porn addict.
You can be both.
Yes, but you can be the former without being the latter and that is the point. Coomers here make it seem that unless your support every cartoon being essentially porn, you are a prude.
Who's to say that decision wasn't a result of censorship? For all we know hellhounds all have null anatomy
In this image three reasons I am a fury
>fury
furry, frick
What secrets are you hiding Nick?
>they're alreayd in dead, they're in hell, but we're gonna kill them again
what?
It may also have been mandated by the network. Even if your show is R rated explicit nudity is still pushing the envelope for most networks. Especially in a cartoon (going to have a lot of teenagers watching). These days R rating is mostly so you can swear like a trucker and have darker themes.
Adam is so fricking based.
I wonder what he thinks about his son Cain. Surely he is in hell.
I think he made his opinion is Hell's citizens very clear in his song
I wonder if he would exterminate his own son.
It's been a long time since Sunday School but... wasn't Cain made immortal to wander Earth for the ages?
No, God just discouraged people from killing him.
>And the Lord said, “What have you done? Listen, your brother’s blood is crying out to me from the ground! 11 And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you till the ground, it will no longer yield to you its strength; you will be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is greater than I can bear! 14 Today you have driven me away from the soil, and I shall be hidden from your face; I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and anyone who meets me may kill me.” 15 Then the Lord said to him, “Not so![c] Whoever kills Cain will suffer a sevenfold vengeance.” And the Lord put a mark on Cain, so that no one who came upon him would kill him.
Why do they work so well together?
They're basically villain versions of Roger Rabbit
I want to frick that snake and treat his eggboys nicely.
>the gay porn actors are all receurrent animals in gay furry porn
You can't guess this, you need to come in contact with it.
Anon, why would YOU know what animals are popular in gay furry porn?
Exhentai is full of this shit and I don't set filters because the string would get too long
so, do we know how to kill an exorcist?
Imagine being Charlie.
STRONGEST HELLQUEEN VS WEAKEST ANGEL
>angel and servant of God
>wants to permakill people of Hell despite them still being able to be redeemed and get into Heaven
>servant of God, known for being the ultimate redeemer
It's going to be one of those stories then huh
He is Adam and an angel. The boss of angels. Adam, the guy who was cast out from Eden. It's 100% of these stories
If the sinners can go and be redeemed, then why haven't they done it yet?
I find it really hard to watch because the colors all fricking blend together.
About three times, then I Ctrl+W'd.
new Angel Dust sounds awful when he's trying to be horny. pilot Angel Dust delivered his lines with more snark than cringe, which made it funny.
>Charlie you must keep going, go on ahead! Leave Lute to ME!
Canon.
This scene went hard and I think we can all admit that
I was just thinking about how much Viv must've schlicked it to Jack Skellington as a kid
I loved how in the next scene he said "It's Alastorin' time!" and started Alastoring all over the place.
Do all the stitches imply the 'torn apart by dogs after being shot' fanon explanation of his death may be in the process of being canonized?
Doesn't make sense. He did nothing wrong.
I mean...
I want to see Charlie interact with the demon lords
sexy Delphox
I hate her second set of arms, I don't know how some of you can look past those.
She has nothing to say to them. She probably would try to make them less indulgent in their respective vices to no avail.
>She probably would try to make them less indulgent in their respective vices to no avail.
Lol, this is the Beelzebub that doesn't want people to overindulge too much, and the Asmodeus that hates rape we are talking about
Watched the show with a couple of friends and we suffered for it. Honestly, I'm in complete agreement with Adam. If Satan's daughter came up to me and said the equivalent of, "I think we should redeem pedophiles and rapists and help them get into Heaven," I'd wanna kill those frickers, too.
This is why I think the Hotel should be aome type of purgatory for souls that have sinned but not grievous sins like pedophilia or murder (not in self defense).
I liked the radio demon. I liked his song with the tv demon. That was about it though.
>I liked the radio demon
SEE?! DO. YOU. SEE?! CHADLASTOR IS THE MOST LIKED CHARACTER IN THE SHOW.
So far, what episode is the best? I think ep 4 is the best and it has the best song yet
Episode 2 because we see Vox get mogged and gigachaded by his master.
Vox has more overall influence now and in the grand scheme, Alastor is a loser
Nice try Vox, back to seething and malding.
whats with the clock eyes anyways
It's a radio dial.
What is pyrocynical doing in hell?
I think episode 4 is a wasted potential. I would vastly prefer if Val was written differently which I described here
Because of Val being the way he is I cannot take Angel's story seriously. It's just very dumb for me. So far my favorite part of those 4 episodes was first half of episode 3 where pacing was okay, jokes were landing and I had some fun. But then the poorly written stuff with Vaggie and Carmine came in and I lost interest.
the one where angel dust gets raped
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It's lower than Numaniacs, which I sure hope most people here can admit is a trash fire right?
but hazbin has good audience score too
less review bombing. When numaniacs came out, the 1st wave of fans hyped that show up a lot, kinda like people are just saying they like hazbin now. That would cause more people to come in to give very low hate bomb scores.
If Hazbin could get to a 71%, that'd honestly feel like a fair score.
There's no way nu-Animaniacs (which very few people cared about in the first place) was more review-bombed than HH which was hated from the start by Vivzie-haters, antis/puriteens and certain groups of Christians who get offended by anything. I still see 10k+ likes tweets shitting on it quite often.
2020 was pandemic. everyone was at home. Figure there was more than enough people with free time just DUMPING all over it. It's also January.
Numaniacs came out in November, where people are more likely to be watching media.
I knows it would be cringey as frick so I just didn’t watch it at all
I really dont care about a gay porn star being abused, I went to see more buttholes fail to be good people like Sir Pentious cmon Viv give us more desperate sinners you fricking hack
>T.Picrel
I am here for both
it's insane I'm actually enjoying this show
Why would sinners want to leave hell? It seems like bad guy heaven tbh.
Not all of them are psychos and perverts, some probably had no choice in life, some saw no other choice but to kill themselves which sends you straight to hell and some were victims of circumstances. Probably not everyone there is as bad as the overlords.
>gay people
>using hell as a concept to project their weird fetishes
>thereby othering and demonizing themselves
Why is it always like this?
Penis envy. They're caught between the mission statement and trying to beat the big bad men at their own game. So they can't take the first step and break their conditioning, even if it means they'll spend the rest of eternity playing patty-cake instead of getting results.
Gay people tend to obsess over Hell in tandem with sexual fetishes because they believe that defining themselves as a COOL marginalized victim who doesn't conform to society will grant them a sense of identity and also purpose: you're not just sticking it to the man, you're actually the bad boy rebel who isn't afraid to be himself
The problem with this line of thinking...well, there's a lot of problems with it.
>Root behavior is no different than how society is treating you, you're still acting like your Protestant moron parents only instead of going nuts for Jesus and straight marriage you think Satan is cool and gay people need to frick more
>You're identifying with something that's genuinely considered wrong by everyone, the only excuse being founded in Bible fanfiction
>You think that being the opposite extreme of something bad...is somehow good?
If they really want to be "rebels" they should go all the way and follow in the footsteps of people like Ernst Rohm.
>nazi
>gay
>anti-christian
Don't wimp out you homosexuals. Go big or go home.
DADDY!!1
>nazi
>anti-christian
That's almost a contradiction. But I don't recall if they specifically demanded everyone being uber religious.
Hitler and the Catholics were at odds with each other throughout the history of Nazi Germany. The Nazi party leadership was excommunicated by the German archbishops, and the Nazis persecuted and took control of Catholic churches, particularly those they suspected were harboring israelites.
Jehova's Witnesses were outright put into camps. Christianity has a core tenant that many denominations kinda piffle at; man's law is subordinate to God's, and God expects you to go to the gallows for the sake of those higher laws, as his son did, as Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego did.
Hitler would have banned the religion outright, if not for the fact he'd be declaring war with his own country.
nazis would pressure families and ask them why they were attending church and not having their children go to the youth meetings. the Nazis held Hitler in a much higher respect than Jesus
If they really want to be "rebels" they should go all the way
How about "going all the way" and actually thinking for themselves for a change?
Reminds me of old internet shit like the online 'muh Atheist/Skeptic moobment' that collapsed up its own arsehole after being invaded by feminists, proto-SJWs, and various other commies. One of final straws being the ironically named 'Freethought Blogs' that would ban you for even questioning the established orthodoxy.
Hilariously some homosexual Atheist debater who failed to call them out on it over a decade ago is now getting butthurt and flipping the board during the debates with Chrsitians when they say something that triggers him, (because he's now married to a troony - but is not gay in his mind).
You really can live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Alastor respects women!
Kick in his balls.
Considering he was missing for 7 years straight before the events of the pilot, this short prequel comic might not even be canon anymore.
Frick the show. I'd just prefer to read a Hazbin graphic novel because it might actually be forced at pay attention to it's story, and you can look at the pretty pictures without a bunch of annoying bullshit surrounding it.
Sorry but its hard to care about what happens in this show since it takes place in Hell, Helluva deals with actual beings with lifespans and shit but I mean sinners are just know finished.
looking at the poster was enough. viv draws good furries but as soon as she goes outside that domain it just looks awful. also goddamn viv for having two shows that are nazi colors and pink
Do Moxxie and Millie count as furry shit? 'Cause I would frick both.
no they fall into the domain of Homestuck pandering
Furry fantasies killed the thread.
I checked online jan25-26 is when next TWO eps of hazbin releases.
That's in less then FOUR days.
bump
Only during the musical numbers
I've never seen a show more aggressively undermine it's own premise. What's the point of Charlie's scheme if heaven is worse than hell? It's the laziest, most cynical take, and all just for the sake of taking cheap shots at Christianity. And on that matter, why the hell do characters 'swear to God' and say 'Christ on a stick' when neither of them seem to exist?
The point is saving her people but yeah the redemption thing might just go out the window and get replaced with "fighting Heaven with the power of love"
It's not worse, you're just seeing the more psychopathic of the non-sinners coming down.
>I've never seen a show undermine it's own premise
Viv has undermined her own premise twice now. I thought Helluva did it in record time, but Hazbin abandoned the halfway house for sinners even quicker.
We have context from helluva boss to help us but anyone who watches hazbin hotel for the first time might actually think that the story charlie reads at the very start might be not true because the devil is not reliable. Although by the time the demon overlord hugging her demon... children shows up it should be clear to them.
Remember way back in the pilot when it was implied alastor was actually a bad guy?
What happened in HB? Never going to finish watching it, it's basically just a commercial for Hazbin
It turned into a show about gay people with relationship problems to the exclusion of all else. It was always there but it just became the entire show and stolas got a flashback episode to prove he was absolutely totally in the right and his wife was evil. It also stopped being funny or even really trying to be funny.
HB really preempted this by turning hell into the good guys from the start and immediately getting to work at sweeping the bad parts under the rug compared to the pilot where it was easy to tell that 99% of hell deserved to be there and charlie was just moronic.
I just like to think the show borrows Christian themes but still has its own separate lore. Like Neon Genesis
If Charlie ever temporarily loses it and is backed up by Alastor, she needs to order the executions of the 6 other "Deadly Sins" for being so pointless.
What if Charlie gets trapped and betrayed?
This series could be 15,000x better if anyone else was writing it
About 4 times, which is not as much as I thought I would tbf
Who the frick is this purple b***h I thought Charlie was dating the rapper guy
The broke up after Charlie found out he's married.
>Implying I cringed
>Sinners, rejoice!
Ehh, It was mostly what I expected but Adams whole character is pretty shit and the shown behavior of the angels kind of undermines part of the premise. Would have made more sense if the angels spun their work as a "Mercy" that oblivion is better than living in sin and if the purges just had to be more common because earths population began exploding in the 20th century. So Adam calls to inform Charlie that the purges are now Monthly. She protests with her own idea so she gets an ultimatum. Instead the angels are just pricks?
Every character has some sort of ultimatum or hidden motive, so I'm sure it's not so black and white
The show is pretty cringe, but it's funny and some of the songs slap. I liked Loser
I watched the pilot back when it was originally released but I rewatched it now and it feels like it has changed a lot since then, some parts feel like they were completely reanimated and a lot of parts were even added, am I crazy ? But the release date of the video doesn't look like it has changed, so hwo did they do that ?
>die and get to Heaven's gates
>standing before God
>throws me straight into Hell because I ate some beef jerky once
It's over
yuh feedin me poisun
Yeah I know it's a shitpost
You're making a shit post
I'm gonna laugh like there is no tomorrow!
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Anyway you want me janny, you can't cause I don't do requests for
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Missed connections
>I saw and backdoored you in the McDonalds in Detroit. You were the one crying about how you already lost your job at the Walgreens for getting angry at a black guy and begged me "no please stop, please stop, not again!" I hope to see you again and if you read this meet me in the bathroom at Endless Gluttony buffet. I think we can kindle something serious.
The first episode was the one with Adam, right? God that dude swore so much in every minute that it made me wonder if all that shitposting about Vivziepop being overly reliant on swearing and lewd jokes to make up for the lack of interesting dialogue was true all along.
Loser Baby has infected my mind and I cant get it out
Your mind, Pozzed by Angel Dust's voice.
Pretty much
for me, it's Husker's voice
All the homos and bisexuals are in Hell, while chad Adam is eating beef ribs and rocking in Heaven.
Based Vivziepop?
Twice. Once during the infodump intro explaining how Lucifer was a "misunderstood rebel" and Lilith being a domestic abuse victim.
Then during the whole scene with Adam, who of course is a big douchey sexist because "le men bad".
Everything after that has been mostly okay, and those two things aside I've been enjoying the show for the most part.
I'm just dreading when Adam will inevitably show up again. And hopefully Lucifer won't be too cringey.
>Then during the whole scene with Adam, who of course is a big douchey sexist because "le men bad".
It's very interesting how most of these butthole characters in this type of media are based in ex-boyfriends. The women who wrote them are/were attracted to this type of guy in the past.
>these butthole characters in this type of media are based in ex-boyfriends.
So true.
She's totally into serial killers like Alastar now.
Adam was the cringiest part in the cringefest. VA sounds like he's trying way too hard to sound like Jack Black.
I think, at the moment, it’s good! Not bad or fantastic, just in the middle. It’s much better watching Hazbin Hotel than Helluva Boss because I cannot stand Blitzø as a character and the show has deviated away from its actual premise to being a yaoi fanfic. I know Hazbin isn’t finished yet, but right now it’s much more watchable and interesting. We’ll see how it goes in the next week!
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