How many woke flops before Hollywoke pulls its head out of its ass and starts making non woke movies Cinemaphile?
It's not that people don't want to see gay, trans, black or gay trans black characters we just don't want to be preached to about it!
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i don't want to see gays or blacks
Same, but i like Blade too much.
If China is world superpower by the 2030s you won't see either in front of a movie camera again, cheer up
Yeah, it's a good point and I personally don't watch a movie with a black MC UNLESS it's a good actor I like.
I didn't watch the Spiderman movie for example.
I shill trans Gwen x Morales, though.
we need more anti-woke movies like spiderverse
>i don't want to see gays or blacks
>anti-woke
>spiderverse
Nothing woke about Elemental. It is however a romcom, and those never do well unless they're filled to the brim with A-listers.
What was the last successful romcom though
some shitty julia roberts movie most likely
>Nothing woke about Elemental.
It's literally race mixing propoganda
We don't need propaganda to tell us we're allowed to fall in love with Asian cuties or sumptuous dusk princesses.
The entire middle management and low end workers in these companies are 100% on board. Many of the upper execs are true believers too with the other half so out of touch (they never knew what makes good products to begin with just how to manage money). Even if you fired the entire staff and re-hired everyone, you'd just hire more blue haired twitter addicted millennials from California who'd make the exact same films. It's systematic.
1. It's the most paper thin race analogy ever with fires being stand-in for Asian immigrants in America.
2. It's made to PROMOTE inter-racial relationships since even though they're legal they're still rare. Social progressives can't stand the fact that no one wants to date Soggers.
3. Diversity rules mean that subject matter needs to be about women and minorities because "representation matter" and learned experiences and all this. Thus everything is about blacks, gays, asians, etc. The focus shifts from making GOOD entertaining profitable films to making films about minorities. Quality drops, profits drop.
You guys need to take your meds.
No I don't. It's not even subtle about it
>Guy posts salient, rational points
>"ummmm...TAKE LE MEDS..."
They can't go on without their SSRI meds, and project that on to others
Coomers and nigcels are projecting their porn fantasies onto this kid's movie but if not for the actor everyone would be saying that water elementals are a stand-in for whites.
And that's definitely how it was written but at some point they were like "oh no, white guy / non-white immigrant girl is considered cliche now" so they found the whitest sounding black actor they could.
>Social progressives can't stand the fact that no one wants to date Soggers
Why don't they do it themselves then?
I find these videos equal parts embarassing and hilarious. Not the content of them, just the fact that people are basically making a living posting Cinemaphile takes on YouTube.
I watched a Midnight's Edge video for the first time in years about the Flash. The guy kept saying DsheU. Dude sounded like he was over 40. I got second hand embarrassment watching it.
>I watched a Midnight's Edge video for the first time
> For the first time
Learn to lie
>For the first time in years
Read the whole sentence first moron
They're just boomers copying what they read here to sound cool then clean it up for youtube and viewers
Have you ever considered the possibility that what you are calling "Cinemaphile takes" are actually, in fact, mainstream opinions?
You guys need to step away from the internet and touch grass for a little bit.
Yeah I considered it and then I realized it was moronic
Well, it's not. Believe it or not this is a website that contains a large variety of opinions, many of which come from actual normal people. The same kind of normal people that you will encounter in the mainstream.
Cinemaphile is not some cordoned off Secret Club. It's merely one of the few places where people can express themselves with (relatively) little fear of censorship or suppression. Whether you like it or not you will in fact see opinions here, and opinions in the mainstream, overlap from time to time, with no bearing on whether those opinions are valid/true/false or not.
They have no reason to stop because they don’t need to sell tickets to make money anymore. With all of the tax fraud, money laundering, streaming services they use to hide ratings, and their puppets in the media hyping it, they’re comfortable so long as they kiss Fink’s ass for a good ESG score. Now with the academy not even considering their shit unless it’s 50% BIPOC they have a heavy advantage in the fake awards department as well.
tl;dr Your opinion, your enjoyment, and your participation are irrelevant. It’s all a money scam now.
>with all the things I made up in my head they don't need to make money anymore!
Pixar and Disney are actually in very grim financial standing. Pixar is very likely to be axed within a few years with everyone fired and merged into Disney studios. Disney is losing money god damn everywhere and has had like 8 films in a row since 2019 that haven't made any god damn money and lost almost 1 billion dollars. Their only profitable films were the live-action films, but then Little Mermaid now has yet to turn a profit. D+ is a money sink by design.
The chance of Disney being bought out or selling off massive amount of assets is very likely.
It just looks like they got a big boost from the pandemic then it's returning to normal.
>Stock price as low as pandemic scare stock drop
>also As low as October 2014
Literally wiped 9 years of price increases
Disney is never going to go broke. All they have to do at this point is make bank on old classics they made and from older movies made by companies they’ve purchased, make bank on their theme parks, and churn out new garbage as a manufactured loss to serve as a tax shield against those other profits. It’s the safest business model, and they’re going to stick with it. Any accidental success will be a bonus. They are in the business of making flops now that are not OBVIOUS flops, but juuuuuust bad enough to lose money on.
>Disney is never going to go broke.
I doubt they will just declare bankrupsy one day. Each of these films were mean to be 750-1000 million dollar hits, and then make just as much with merchandise and theme parks. But if the films are duds no one sees, the merch just becomes a liability.
If they have years of spending billions on ventures that don't generate money, that will create cycles where the company will be bought out.
You never know with these things. It wouldn't be the first major studio to disappear off of the face of the earth. MGM was the biggest player in the industry for a long time and a decade of mismanagement brought it to it's knees. RKO was a major studio and incompetent ownership by one of the world's richest men killed it in no time. Just because a company is a staple of the industry doesn't mean they can't die a rapid death. Not saying that's going to happen to Disney, but I could see it happen to Warner Bros.
It's about as woke as Zootopia was, and that a huge success
Zootopia had no clear race parallels and dealt with universal prejudice. It might touch on the same themes, but Elemental is way more woke.
Zootopia wasn't anti-family, unlike Elemental.
Zootopia made up for its homosexual “microaggressions” scenes by being a movie that unironically and shockingly (perhaps by accident?) NAMES the israelite.
Losses are all covered by the government.
saw the movie but i didnt see anything woke. wtf
Every film I don't like that is unsuccessful is woke and every film that is successful is not woke.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THE Black person WATER BOY FRICKS THE ASIAN FIRE GIRL
I hate coomers so much it's unreal
its impossible you stupid homosexual just doesnt make any sense
Not really that hard to imagine with any amount of creativity. "Not like humans" is your broad answer.
But that doesn't matter because the real purpose of your post was to relate this thread and movie to the unrelated topic of Black folk having sex, which coomers are ever trying to do no matter what's being discussed.
>It's not that people don't want to see gay, trans, black or gay trans black characters we just don't want to be preached to about it!
It is, they're represented way too much, and normal people are sick and tired of it. Also sick and tired of being lectured and made to feel guilty of it!
Schizo right wingers don't understand basic economics
STFU and stop attacking conservatives as idiots!
ive said it before and ill say it again
FAMILY FRIENDLY PIXAR TRASH IS SO 15 YEARS AGO
they need to reinvent and take a page from James Cameron. Make a billion dollar space epic with the most cutting edge CGI and you'll revive the brand.
2023 is going to be remembered as the year woke started going broke. Not just for TV and movies, but across the culture and society.
>the year woke started going broke
and next year Go Chud Go Thud will start
That’d be fine with me, I want this entire satanic society to burn. There’s nothing worth redeeming or worth saving.
So chuds will start stomping their feets and do something? Fat chance
One thing I can say for sure is that I will NEVER look back on the years I spent saying "woke" and researching kids movie box office numbers and think "i wasted my damn life"
>wasting life
brainlet detected, every moment of our precious lives is lived to the maximum by default
>Well, at least I didn't waste my life like you.
I can't take anyone seriously who says this shit and posts on Cinemaphile at the same time. It's like you have no self-awareness.
Dude I just saw a woke kids movie right behind you. If you post a lot, a whoooole lot about it then I think it will run back into your closet
>Y-Y-YOU'RE JUST IMAGINING EVERYTHING!
Gaslight harder, freak.
Did that movie come out? I've only seen this gender neutral fairy.
One thing I can say for sure is that I will NEVER look back on the years I spent 200 million dollars making kids movies with gay and interracial shit and watching them barely break even in the movie box office and think "i wasted my damn life"
>and watching them barely break even in the movie box office
Worse than that. Lightyear and Strange World LOST 300 million dollars combined.
The markets got fragmented and more competition for film. But studios didn't adapt AT ALL and you see Pixar-Disney being the worst. Also preachy woke shit bombs at the box office since so few people WANT to pay money to see that. Sadly, it does better in streaming since ratings don't matter only subscribers. Thus you get endless streams of productions no one asked for or watches.
>LE GO WOKE LE BROKE xDDDD *takes a shit on a can of Bud Light*
You incels spend way too much time on /misc/ to realize how moronic you are for believing this shit.
>*chops dick off* "I AM LE WOMAN NOW!!!!"
You freaktroons spend way too much time on /lgbt/ to realize how moronic you are for believing this shit.
Can someone explain what “woke” means? I’m starting to think it just means “non-white people existing”
>Can someone explain what “woke” means?
Cynical French late 20th century philosophy moving away from Objective facts to subjectivity, believing that everything is culturally constructed, which is then applied to social problems. Examples include Queer theory, and Critical Race theory.
>I’m starting to think it just means “non-white people existing”
I'd be excited about some Nigerian, or Kenyan film that tackled issues of the human condition and generally love international films. I don't watch woke" tv shows or movies that lecture me on how gender is a social construction, or how black people are inherently better in every way or form.
Pretending you have no idea what "woke" is, and that anyone critical of it is inherently a bigot, is an intentional strategy by woke activists btw.
Saving for future use.
Very well reasoned and explained. Do not ever let these idiots try and Gaslight you.
That page is from a book called Cynical Theories, which covers this school of thought. The legitimate issue is that there's no agreed upon umbrella term for this school of philosophy. The sub-theories are all named: Queer theory, post-colonialism studies, Critical race theory, fat studies, etc. "Woke" and "Social Justice Warrior" were terms created by proponents, which then adopted by critics. The book tries to call them "Cynical Theories" which is cute, but doesn't work either.
Their philosophy is the polar opposite of European Enlightenment philosophy in every detail.
it means anti white
People definitely do not want to see gays and trannies
I just want to see that fat asiatic get fired after the film that was supposed to be a celebration of his life flopped.
Woke go broke
half the dollars the fed prints goes to blackrock and he's on the record talking about "changing behavior" via financial coercion. there is an infinite money glitch for libtardation, it doesn't matter how much money any of this trash media loses
Hollywood is dead yo. That’s the point. They died over a decade ago when market fractionalization hit a point where they could no longer sustain themselves.
Hence why there farming ESG points and blackrock money.
It's not about the money.
How long until Nerdrotic drops the hideous clickbait thumbnails?
In fact, normal people don’t want to see those things you listed. At all. And especially not in their entertainment.
>muh pieces of paper they didn't make enough pieces of paperinooo
When will you morons realize Hollywood is just a propaganda machine? They exist to make woke shit that's their entire purpose, they get paid beforehand by the powers that want this nonsense in the first place.
Sales don't matter, but it would raise redflags if their garbage was free so they have to keep the act.
>inb4 take le pills schizo
Mark my words idiots the woke trash will continue to pour in with no end in sight no matter how much it "flops". It's literally never going to end.
Their patrons have deep pockets.
>we just don't want to be preached to about it!
You take the mere appearance of those characters as "preaching" so it's a moot point.
The creator's literally openly admit, often in public press releases, that they're casting choices as far as race and sex were completely based on ideology, i.e. "We cast of black guy in the role of a white guy because it's '''important''', and we needed to teach those evil racist sexist misogynists lesson!".
And that's the same as the movie is preaching to you. Maybe you do need meds after all.
>How many woke flops before Hollywoke pulls its head out of its ass and starts making non woke movies Cinemaphile?
It literally can't. ESG means they're forced to do it or they get destroyed.
Maybe never. The studios are so fricked up now I don't think they are capable of making good things anymore. The diversity hires have been disastrous bc of their ideology and they are completely incompetent. It's literally over.