>Adamantium should be able to cut through like a knife through butter.
Suppose adamantium is infinitely hard/strong, and the edge is perfectly (not just atomically) sharp, and that the adamantium blade has no friction whatsoever as it cuts. It still needs to have sufficient force applied to spread the material being cut apart to allow the blade through. For diamond, that's a ridiculously huge amount of force. Emma would be shot off like a bullet if those claws had anything approaching that amount of force behind them. A plausible result here is the claws making tiny chips that probably wouldn't be visible to a human eye at the distance the characters are shown.
>diamonds are as flammable as charcoal bricks
Not even close. They're solid and have a fantastically high thermal conductivity. A solid person-sized diamond would be impervious to an oxy-acetylene torch because it would dissipate heat too fast for the torch to get it hot enough to burn in air, and even at the focus of the flame, the heat flux would be too low to increase the local temperature enough to matter.
Diamond has a thermal conductivity of 2,200 W/(m·K). An oxy torch can't produce the heat flux required to heat a human-sized chunk of diamond to that temperature, even at the focus of the flame. Coal burns easily because it's porous and a much better thermal insulator. It's possible to actually heat up a small section of a large piece of coal of it to the point that it ignites and produces a self-sustaining fire. Ever tried torch welding aluminum? Imagine trying to torch weld aluminum six inches thick. Now imagine trying to do that with a material with ten times the thermal conductivity of aluminum.
And even if diamonds are heated to yellow heat in a pure oxygen atmosphere, they burn much more slowly than coal. This is a relatively easy demonstration. https://youtu.be/iiVxaOn0H_k
XMen can ressurect people now(actually already being retconned)
All the times when wolverine went down like a b***h only to get back up and revengesnikt in the most unexpected manner. Now he just goes down like a b***h.
So the enemies collected those dead bodies and turned them into murderdrones for teh lulz.
So they put Wolverine's mind into a new body each time he dies complete with a new metal skeleton, and just leave his old one to rot?
What the frick Charles
XMen can ressurect people now(actually already being retconned)
All the times when wolverine went down like a b***h only to get back up and revengesnikt in the most unexpected manner. Now he just goes down like a b***h.
So the enemies collected those dead bodies and turned them into murderdrones for teh lulz.
The Resurrection Protocols are such an awful and nonsensical idea. So they can recreate a mutant from scratch because their DNA is logged, okay. They can also recreate specific physical alterations like not fixing Karma's leg because she wanted to still miss one and not resetting Emma to her original pre-plastic surgery appearance. This is already ridiculous but it gets worse.
So they can somehow generate enough adamantium, the literal rarest material on earth, to create a new fully functional Logan or Laura at will, not to mention other mutants who also use it. If you can do that, just pull something infinitely more valuable than any currency out of thin air then why is their fricking economy collapsing? Selling just one single Wolverine skeleton worth of adamantium is worth more than a thousand shipments of their dumb anti-cancer drug that failed. They so didn't think this through in any capacity and it's hilarious.
Even if you couldn't recreate adamantium out of nowhere just keep killing Emma a bunch of times and cut up the diamond corpses, bam, your economy is saved.
Good so have Proteus make adamantium. Or diamonds. or gold. Fricking basic goods. Their economy is literally collapsed because they can't sell mushrooms when the easy fix is right there.
Trying to sell diamonds would run into even more problems from nations than the cancer drugs.
Something smarter they could have done while still feeding flatline's egos would be taking all of the trash those nations produce and just tossing it in another dimension or transmuting it.
>The Resurrection Protocols are such an awful and nonsensical idea
It's especially stupid because it's not like a Star Trek teleporter where the it's the same person, same memories etc. The original person is dead and they get replaced with a clone with saved memories. It's literally killing off the original characters and replacing them with replaceable clones.
>Was always said how Wolverine relied on his healing factor so much his combat skills dwindled >Now they have revive shenanigans, he can job even harder
It always weirded me out how in Marvel handbooks Wolverine's fighting skills were wanked to high hell, but in reality he's a complete jobber.
Kind of makes me wish to see him apply himself more often.
Diamonds are resistant but shatter instantly the moment you can overcome their breaking point. They work well as small objects (like gemstones) because it's hard to apply enough force to such a small object, but something like a diamond statue would be far easier to swing a sledgehammer or a wrecking ball and easily smash it to pieces. I'm not sure how strong the "ghost life of Wolverine" Sentinel is, but given that it's a large robot putting all its force into a small indestructable area, I don't think that Emma Frost would last very long before getting shattered in half.
I mean, it might be more reasonable to assume that whatever mechanism holding the adamantium blades would break inside the robot, but I'm guessing it has the whole Wolverine skeleton for whatever reason.
Depends on the size. A tiny diamond is more likely to slip out of the impact or to make a dent in whatever surface it is sitting on. It's a lot easier to make a small dent in a wooden bench or even metal table than it is to shatter a diamond.
Put it in a press, and you're more likely to see it explode.
Emma's problem is that she isn't a tiny gemstone that can just dent a small hole in the floor to dissipate the force.
Extremely fricking brittle. "Hardness" in minerals refers to resistance to scratching and abrasion, not impacts or any form of actual tensile strength. Diamond is extremely high on the mohs scale due to the way its internal carbon lattice lines up. That specific arrangement makes diamond basically immune to scratching, but also incredibly weak to brute force.
If Emma Frost is actually turning into diamond, you could pound her to dust with a sturdy enough baseball bat.
>and steel ain't that strong
It actually is. Large chunks of steel are fantastically durable, and many have survived close proximity to nuclear explosions during nuclear tests. Until recently, the fastest object ever launched by human activity was a manhole cover propelled by a nuke test to an estimated 125,000 miles per hour.
Due to extensive research done by the League University of Science, diamond has been confirmed as the the hardest metal known the man. The research is as follows.
Pocket-protected scientists built a wall of iron and crashed a diamond car into it at 400 miles per hour, and the car was unharmed.
They then built a wall out of diamond and crashed a car made of iron moving at 400 miles an out into the wall, and the wall came out fine.
They then crashed a diamond car made of 400 miles per hour into a wall, and there were no survivors.
They crashed 400 miles per hour into a diamond travelling at iron car. Western New York was powerless for hours.
They rammed a wall of metal into a 400 mile per hour made of diamond, and the resulting explosion shifted the earth's orbit 400 million miles away from the sun, saving the earth from a meteor the size of a small Washington suburb that was hurtling towards midwestern Prussia at 400 billion miles per hour.
They shot a diamond made of iron at a car moving at 400 walls per hour, and as a result caused two wayward airplanes to lose track of their bearings, and make a fatal crash with two buildings in downtown New York.
They spun 400 miles at diamond into iron per wall. The results were inconclusive.
Finally, they placed 400 diamonds per hour in front of a car made of wall travelling at miles, and the result proved without a doubt that diamonds were the hardest metal of all time, if not just the hardest metal known the man.
Not strong enough to withstand Adamantium like that panel is implying.
There are plenty of methods used to cut diamonds. Lasers, water pressure, etc...
Adamantium should be able to cut through like a knife through butter.
About ten million psi for flawless specimens.
>Adamantium should be able to cut through like a knife through butter.
Suppose adamantium is infinitely hard/strong, and the edge is perfectly (not just atomically) sharp, and that the adamantium blade has no friction whatsoever as it cuts. It still needs to have sufficient force applied to spread the material being cut apart to allow the blade through. For diamond, that's a ridiculously huge amount of force. Emma would be shot off like a bullet if those claws had anything approaching that amount of force behind them. A plausible result here is the claws making tiny chips that probably wouldn't be visible to a human eye at the distance the characters are shown.
>psi
use pascals, you fricking caveman
also that fricker is on fire, diamonds are as flammable as charcoal bricks, she's utterly fricked
>diamonds are as flammable as charcoal bricks
Not even close. They're solid and have a fantastically high thermal conductivity. A solid person-sized diamond would be impervious to an oxy-acetylene torch because it would dissipate heat too fast for the torch to get it hot enough to burn in air, and even at the focus of the flame, the heat flux would be too low to increase the local temperature enough to matter.
they burn at 900C in air, genius, if you put an oxy torch on her she'd go up like coal
Diamond has a thermal conductivity of 2,200 W/(m·K). An oxy torch can't produce the heat flux required to heat a human-sized chunk of diamond to that temperature, even at the focus of the flame. Coal burns easily because it's porous and a much better thermal insulator. It's possible to actually heat up a small section of a large piece of coal of it to the point that it ignites and produces a self-sustaining fire. Ever tried torch welding aluminum? Imagine trying to torch weld aluminum six inches thick. Now imagine trying to do that with a material with ten times the thermal conductivity of aluminum.
And even if diamonds are heated to yellow heat in a pure oxygen atmosphere, they burn much more slowly than coal. This is a relatively easy demonstration. https://youtu.be/iiVxaOn0H_k
>Ghost life of Wolverine
Huh?
XMen can ressurect people now(actually already being retconned)
All the times when wolverine went down like a b***h only to get back up and revengesnikt in the most unexpected manner. Now he just goes down like a b***h.
So the enemies collected those dead bodies and turned them into murderdrones for teh lulz.
Oh ok I was thinking they put his ghost in a robot or something. That resurrection stuff would of been useful years ago.
So they put Wolverine's mind into a new body each time he dies complete with a new metal skeleton, and just leave his old one to rot?
What the frick Charles
Welcome to the Krakoa Era, where the deaths don't matter and every plot point is taken to its most illogical extreme.
The Resurrection Protocols are such an awful and nonsensical idea. So they can recreate a mutant from scratch because their DNA is logged, okay. They can also recreate specific physical alterations like not fixing Karma's leg because she wanted to still miss one and not resetting Emma to her original pre-plastic surgery appearance. This is already ridiculous but it gets worse.
So they can somehow generate enough adamantium, the literal rarest material on earth, to create a new fully functional Logan or Laura at will, not to mention other mutants who also use it. If you can do that, just pull something infinitely more valuable than any currency out of thin air then why is their fricking economy collapsing? Selling just one single Wolverine skeleton worth of adamantium is worth more than a thousand shipments of their dumb anti-cancer drug that failed. They so didn't think this through in any capacity and it's hilarious.
Even if you couldn't recreate adamantium out of nowhere just keep killing Emma a bunch of times and cut up the diamond corpses, bam, your economy is saved.
Jesus christ I hate Krakoa so much.
The adamantium comes from Proteus' reality manipulation.
Good so have Proteus make adamantium. Or diamonds. or gold. Fricking basic goods. Their economy is literally collapsed because they can't sell mushrooms when the easy fix is right there.
Trying to sell diamonds would run into even more problems from nations than the cancer drugs.
Something smarter they could have done while still feeding flatline's egos would be taking all of the trash those nations produce and just tossing it in another dimension or transmuting it.
>The Resurrection Protocols are such an awful and nonsensical idea
It's especially stupid because it's not like a Star Trek teleporter where the it's the same person, same memories etc. The original person is dead and they get replaced with a clone with saved memories. It's literally killing off the original characters and replacing them with replaceable clones.
>it's not like a Star Trek teleporter where the it's the same person, same memories etc.
Bruh.
>now neither of us will be virgins
Sell sex ticketsl day passes to the island. Boom boom, economy and speciecism solved overnight.
>Was always said how Wolverine relied on his healing factor so much his combat skills dwindled
>Now they have revive shenanigans, he can job even harder
It always weirded me out how in Marvel handbooks Wolverine's fighting skills were wanked to high hell, but in reality he's a complete jobber.
Kind of makes me wish to see him apply himself more often.
Diamond is Unbreakable
If you hit a diamond with a hammer, the diamond will shatter
Huh. Wonder if anyone at Marvel knew that when they had her fight a guy whose gimmick is hitting things really hard with a hammer.
Diamonds are resistant but shatter instantly the moment you can overcome their breaking point. They work well as small objects (like gemstones) because it's hard to apply enough force to such a small object, but something like a diamond statue would be far easier to swing a sledgehammer or a wrecking ball and easily smash it to pieces. I'm not sure how strong the "ghost life of Wolverine" Sentinel is, but given that it's a large robot putting all its force into a small indestructable area, I don't think that Emma Frost would last very long before getting shattered in half.
I mean, it might be more reasonable to assume that whatever mechanism holding the adamantium blades would break inside the robot, but I'm guessing it has the whole Wolverine skeleton for whatever reason.
Depends on the size. A tiny diamond is more likely to slip out of the impact or to make a dent in whatever surface it is sitting on. It's a lot easier to make a small dent in a wooden bench or even metal table than it is to shatter a diamond.
Put it in a press, and you're more likely to see it explode.
Emma's problem is that she isn't a tiny gemstone that can just dent a small hole in the floor to dissipate the force.
>How strong is Diamond?
Extremely fricking brittle. "Hardness" in minerals refers to resistance to scratching and abrasion, not impacts or any form of actual tensile strength. Diamond is extremely high on the mohs scale due to the way its internal carbon lattice lines up. That specific arrangement makes diamond basically immune to scratching, but also incredibly weak to brute force.
If Emma Frost is actually turning into diamond, you could pound her to dust with a sturdy enough baseball bat.
>, but also incredibly weak to brute force.
lol no
Foud the moron
Not remotely that strong. It's prone to cracking. The unique property of diamond is it's ability to cut which is why it has industrial properties.
She's not a literal diamond. She can still move, talk, think, etc. If she was actually a diamond, she couldn't do anything of these things.
"Superman took a nuke? What the hell, he's the man of steel, and steel ain't that strong, doiiiii"
so you're telling me I can take Superman down with nothing more than ordinary jet fuel? interesting
>and steel ain't that strong
It actually is. Large chunks of steel are fantastically durable, and many have survived close proximity to nuclear explosions during nuclear tests. Until recently, the fastest object ever launched by human activity was a manhole cover propelled by a nuke test to an estimated 125,000 miles per hour.
It's the strongest metal known to man.
Due to extensive research done by the League University of Science, diamond has been confirmed as the the hardest metal known the man. The research is as follows.
Pocket-protected scientists built a wall of iron and crashed a diamond car into it at 400 miles per hour, and the car was unharmed.
They then built a wall out of diamond and crashed a car made of iron moving at 400 miles an out into the wall, and the wall came out fine.
They then crashed a diamond car made of 400 miles per hour into a wall, and there were no survivors.
They crashed 400 miles per hour into a diamond travelling at iron car. Western New York was powerless for hours.
They rammed a wall of metal into a 400 mile per hour made of diamond, and the resulting explosion shifted the earth's orbit 400 million miles away from the sun, saving the earth from a meteor the size of a small Washington suburb that was hurtling towards midwestern Prussia at 400 billion miles per hour.
They shot a diamond made of iron at a car moving at 400 walls per hour, and as a result caused two wayward airplanes to lose track of their bearings, and make a fatal crash with two buildings in downtown New York.
They spun 400 miles at diamond into iron per wall. The results were inconclusive.
Finally, they placed 400 diamonds per hour in front of a car made of wall travelling at miles, and the result proved without a doubt that diamonds were the hardest metal of all time, if not just the hardest metal known the man.
classic
"Diamond" is just her codename. If she was as durable as the IRL gem she wouldn't be as sturdy as she is in the comics.
Emma Frost has had her diamond form shattered on a prior occasion.
Diamond is hard, but its not strong. Its actually brittle.