General public understanding of astronomical distances is limited, writers included. Most tend to think of them on "exponential" scales. i.e. If LEO:Moon:Mars = 10:100:1000 , then transit times are 1:2:3. The scales are actually larger but basically people think of them in logarithmic terms, which isn't surprising as this is how most astronomical references will generally order them,
People tend to view space distances as > planet 10 units away, other star 100 units away, other galaxy 1000 units away
When it's really more like >planet 10 units away, other star 100000000000000 units away, other galaxy 100000000000000000000000 units away
Because acceleration constantly builds speed when under zero gravity, so he is not limited to whatever his maximum flight speed is. In other words, the speed at which he can propel himself isn't the speed at which he flies in space, but a value that his speed increases with at a steady pace. So if he can fly at 1% the speed of light, then in space he'd fly at 1%, then 2%, then 3%, etc, as long as he keeps accelerating.
So being able to fly to another star system under his power isn't the problem, the problem is that to do so he would have to reach speeds higher than the speed of light. This is two issues, one is that the speed of light is the fastest speed that can exist under our current understanding of physics, the other is that if an object with mass becomes approaching the speed of light, relativistic effects kick in, and the object starts to gain infinite mass, bending spacetime and making time flow at a different pace (think Planet of the Apes).
In the show he traveled to the other planet in 6 months, so if the other planet was in, say, the Sirius star system, he'd have to travel at over 14x the speed of light.
Perhaps we can assume that he traveled to some other planet that doesn't exist in our universe, which is only 0.6 light years away, but then he'd still have to travel at light speed to go there.
So either relativity exists differently in that universe, or Viltrumites are immune to it, or the planet he travelled to was on some hitherto undiscovered star that's extremely close to our solar system.
the only time i remember a comic that dealt with the scale of space semi properly was legion lost when they got lost in the next galaxy over and they emphasized tye difficulty of knowing where they were and even how get back home because it would take too long
It should take him 2 millions years traveling at the speed to light to get there.
But I get it, comics don't have to follow science, is just that you have to actively unlearn things to enjoy certain kind of fiction, say whatever about fantasy at least there you can just turn your brain of instead of picking and choosing how reality works.
He just travelled to another nearby star, not to Andromeda.
and yeah, he'd have to be able to travel at light speed and be immune to the relativistic effects to do so. Reaching light speed isn't technically impossible since he'd be just building speed constantly in a zero gravity environment, ignoring the relativistic effect would have to be comic book bullshit, but to be fair it is a comic about a dude who can hold his breath for half a year and fly unaided in space.
>Fly to Neptune >Carjack the Event Horizon >Wont need eyes to see where we're going >Arrive on the other side of the galaxy, fully traumatised >Everyone else just uses the Stargate, moron >Don't know about it until now >ffs
This is a frequent issue in a lot of old Ultraman stories. Monsters having to travel MFTL for the narrative to even make sense. The difference is that was a children's show in the 60s. I feel like there's less of an excuse for that in Invincible.
It's always funny when those kinds of shows give official stats and hype up shit like "he can move mach 2" when that mother fricker just flew across the galaxy a few minutes ago.
>I feel like there's less of an excuse for that in Invincible.
There's no excuse at all, considering how many portals that exist in the canon (even if you limit it to what's been seen in the show) that frick with the relationship between time and distance already. It's two seconds of hand waving to say "and there are interstellar portal networks because why the frick wouldn't there be".
There's flying fast, and there's flying so fast that you break the laws of physics. Also space is really fricking big and it is insulting for the writers to make such a big mistake.
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General public understanding of astronomical distances is limited, writers included. Most tend to think of them on "exponential" scales. i.e. If LEO:Moon:Mars = 10:100:1000 , then transit times are 1:2:3. The scales are actually larger but basically people think of them in logarithmic terms, which isn't surprising as this is how most astronomical references will generally order them,
Explain this as if I'm a moron who reads comic books
things take longer to get to the further away they are
space is super big and everything is far away
People tend to view space distances as
> planet 10 units away, other star 100 units away, other galaxy 1000 units away
When it's really more like
>planet 10 units away, other star 100000000000000 units away, other galaxy 100000000000000000000000 units away
(And increasing in distance due to the expansion of the universe)
So on top of being far away they are actively drifting away from you.
We sent the Voyager II probe into space in 1977, it's traveling at 35k miles per hour and it entered what is considered ''interstellar'' space in 2018
Because acceleration constantly builds speed when under zero gravity, so he is not limited to whatever his maximum flight speed is. In other words, the speed at which he can propel himself isn't the speed at which he flies in space, but a value that his speed increases with at a steady pace. So if he can fly at 1% the speed of light, then in space he'd fly at 1%, then 2%, then 3%, etc, as long as he keeps accelerating.
So being able to fly to another star system under his power isn't the problem, the problem is that to do so he would have to reach speeds higher than the speed of light. This is two issues, one is that the speed of light is the fastest speed that can exist under our current understanding of physics, the other is that if an object with mass becomes approaching the speed of light, relativistic effects kick in, and the object starts to gain infinite mass, bending spacetime and making time flow at a different pace (think Planet of the Apes).
In the show he traveled to the other planet in 6 months, so if the other planet was in, say, the Sirius star system, he'd have to travel at over 14x the speed of light.
Perhaps we can assume that he traveled to some other planet that doesn't exist in our universe, which is only 0.6 light years away, but then he'd still have to travel at light speed to go there.
So either relativity exists differently in that universe, or Viltrumites are immune to it, or the planet he travelled to was on some hitherto undiscovered star that's extremely close to our solar system.
the only time i remember a comic that dealt with the scale of space semi properly was legion lost when they got lost in the next galaxy over and they emphasized tye difficulty of knowing where they were and even how get back home because it would take too long
In the show he saved their ship, so maybe their ship was in a nearby solar system and they flew him to their galaxy.
he enters the hyperspace, duh
he's massively FTL+
"Frick you" that how
Viltrumites don't fly they just will themselves in a direction.
Mark helps punch a hole in a planet after struggling to bench 400 tons
>Why is le capeshit not le realistic ?
Geez anon, you need to make a thread for this everytime ?
>so fast
It took him a week in the comic.
It should take him 2 millions years traveling at the speed to light to get there.
But I get it, comics don't have to follow science, is just that you have to actively unlearn things to enjoy certain kind of fiction, say whatever about fantasy at least there you can just turn your brain of instead of picking and choosing how reality works.
He just travelled to another nearby star, not to Andromeda.
and yeah, he'd have to be able to travel at light speed and be immune to the relativistic effects to do so. Reaching light speed isn't technically impossible since he'd be just building speed constantly in a zero gravity environment, ignoring the relativistic effect would have to be comic book bullshit, but to be fair it is a comic about a dude who can hold his breath for half a year and fly unaided in space.
I don't know, anon, I think you're just autistic
Is this your first time seeing a superhero show/comic anon
he's pretty quick
He's on nofap
Viltrumites can punch worm holes into the space-time continuum or something idk.
>Fly to Neptune
>Carjack the Event Horizon
>Wont need eyes to see where we're going
>Arrive on the other side of the galaxy, fully traumatised
>Everyone else just uses the Stargate, moron
>Don't know about it until now
>ffs
This is a frequent issue in a lot of old Ultraman stories. Monsters having to travel MFTL for the narrative to even make sense. The difference is that was a children's show in the 60s. I feel like there's less of an excuse for that in Invincible.
It's always funny when those kinds of shows give official stats and hype up shit like "he can move mach 2" when that mother fricker just flew across the galaxy a few minutes ago.
>Intergalactic travel within the time frame of a week
>"wow, he's almost as fast as a jet!"
>I feel like there's less of an excuse for that in Invincible.
There's no excuse at all, considering how many portals that exist in the canon (even if you limit it to what's been seen in the show) that frick with the relationship between time and distance already. It's two seconds of hand waving to say "and there are interstellar portal networks because why the frick wouldn't there be".
>The difference is that was a children's show in the 60s.
So a children's show 60 years later has to make more sense?
It's not a children's show. Also yes, regardless.
So the guy has basically limitless strength and endurance, but flying fast is where you draw the line?
There's flying fast, and there's flying so fast that you break the laws of physics. Also space is really fricking big and it is insulting for the writers to make such a big mistake.
Yes it is.
muhhhh LAWS OF PHYSICS IN MY CAPESHITTTT