thats the fricking Accretion disk of a black hole
entire stars would be torn to shreds if they were near it
and you're telling me Viltrumites just punch
harder than that
>it's a cartoon, so expecting the authors to make even the tiniest bit of sense within the context of their established universe is not necessary
Enjoy your slop then. Sick of people here treating standards like a bad thing. Get some and maybe you'll understand.
>so expecting the authors to make even the tiniest bit of sense within the context of their established universe is not necessary
This is a world where a demon is a private detective and a government agent casually knows the way for him to go to hell. Frick off
That's why I qualified my statement with "within the context of their established universe". If Viltrumites can be damaged by sub-planetary blows, what you see in that image should be ripping them to shreds. You frick off.
>Sick of people here treating standards like a bad thing
Very, very, very few writers think about consistency and power levels, mostly the internet authors.
Almost all writers write/display/animate what they think is cool, emotional or kino.
It is a show where the main conflict is fighting people
Atom Eves fight in this episode is trash because she could literally just rearrange a guys guts with her mind but nooooo, gotta have fake ass conflict
>she could literally just rearrange a guys guts with her mind
she can't. She can only consciously do that with non living things
watch Invincible: Atom Eve
It's a mental block put in by that scientist guy, so maybe her mind recognizes the metal bits as "alive" since they're part of his body
6 months ago
Anonymous
so wait how the hell does she make plants grow
6 months ago
Anonymous
Except we saw her frick up that same guy's arm in her special and she was like 10 at the time
Besides she could have just evaporated the ground beneath them instead of just letting him give her a concussion
They are doing it again, they are nerfing Eve by making her stupid
6 months ago
Anonymous
Eve could probably straight up kill a Viltrumite but thatd be too easy so they make her moronic and stubborn instead
6 months ago
Anonymous
There probably is a way for her to do it. It would not be easy and she absolutely should not be able to take on more than one but yeah
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Except we saw her frick up that same guy's arm in her special and she was like 10 at the time
Cause she was pissed enough to overcome the mental block, but really eve's way to OP so the writers have to jump through hoops to stop her breaking the story
Being that near would still put him up to absurdly big gravity, enough to bend space time. The minute he spends there could be a year to anyone further away. That's the one thing wrong with that scene, not that he isn't crushed immediately (he is Superman, he can handle the immediate effects).
a black hole can range from the size of a molecule to the size of a galaxy and bigger, anon
they don't have a set size, they just keep growing slowly over billions of years
Nta, but I thought that blackholes only grow if
enough matter and/or light enter enter them to feed the process, and if for whatever reason, the blackhole's cut off from that, it'd start shrinking, and eventually dissipate.
Nta either
From what I remember, black holes do grow(at an extremely slow rate) assuming they have things to feed on. Feeding likely keeps them stable more than actually increasing them in scale or effect. They will occasionally stop feeding and go dormant (how that works is unknown). They also spit out some kind of radiation if I recall which would maybe result in dissipation if isolated from other matter.
Black holes also only work on a massive scale, if you made one the size of like idk a stadium, it'd supposedly dissipate nearly in an instant.
Most of this stuff is all theoretical though so it's all just maybes
Black Holes are created from gigantic amount of matter collapsing into itself under its own weight. Basically you have a cloud of hydrogen so big that its weight ignites itself by the gravitational pull collapsing the hydrogen to helium in a form of nuclear fusion. This is a star.
Once the hydrogen is used up, stars either cool off or if they are big enough, they have enough gravitational weight so they start fusing Helium (and they swell out into red giants).
If they are still big enough, they have enough weight to start burning whatever the helium fused into which I forgot.
This cycle continues until the material keeps fusing (at this point, collapsing) into itself until the star becomes a very tiny Neutron Stars which as so dense that a teaspoons worth of material would weight as much as the himalayas.
If the star was big enough to STILL continue collapsing on itself, then you get a black hole, which is so dense that that it can pull light into itself, creating the effect you saw in that scene in Invincible, which was taken from the movie Interstellar, which is at least scientifically accurate since they took NASAs description to create the scene.
The only actual real pictures of black holes we have (that aren't photos of your moms arse) is pic related.
>He has antigravity fields that allows him to fly and cancel our other gravitational pulls
I mean sure but that's not how gravity works, fiction can only be so stupid.
>Man survives the vacuum of space >Can hold his breath for weeks >Can fly at the speed of sound >"WOAH DID HE JUST FRICKING SURVIVED A BLACK HOLE?!? MUH SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF"
lol shut up, it's a cartoon made for teens and young adults lmao
You speak as if teenagers and young adults don't take consistent power levels seriously - probably because you're an overgrown kid who doesn't know what normal people are like
He went to an entire different galaxy when the story really didnt require that location to be in a different galaxy
now he, an an entire race of people, are basically intergalactic gods that can traverse entire galaxies without much trouble
He can hold his breath for MONTHS, but I have no idea how fast he can fly. Also the scene at least shows that he went down to other planets, so he could've gotten breathers inbetween.
But I'm not sure the cartoon says how much time was spent between him leaving and arriving at Bug Town. Mark went from healing up to graduating to starting college classes, so it would have to be at least 3+ months.
I don't think the writers of the show appreciate just how big outer space is. There's a reason even hard sci fi nerds are willing to accept handwavy FTL technology in these stories involving different solar systems.
Actually I don't think it is as much bullshit as you think it is. Spaceships spend half their time accelerating, then half of it decelerating before reaching the destination point, because under weightlessness their inertia would keep carrying them forward at whatever speed they have. The constant acceleration is there to gain more speed, and it works by pushing hundreds of tons of mechanics forward. If a spaceship would cut its engines it would still move forward at the exact speed it has, barring any gravitational effects or collisions.
Why this matters is because the constant acceleration under weightlessness means that he is constantly building speed. He could be flying a thousand times his normal maximum speed in space. Add in shit like slingshots around a star to build even more speed, he'd by flying fast enough to reach other galaxies in his own power on pure speed alone.
The one big problem is that by doing so he would eventually reach the speed of light and a lot of crazy relativistic effects would happen at that point. His weight would increase thousandfold the closer he gets to that speed which bends spacetime and makes time run faster for him. A 6 months journey to him would mean that Earth is now the Planet of Apes by the time he gets back.
But as long as you completely ignore the relativistic effects, I'd say it is conceivable that he can reach other star systems under his own strength. Someone would have to check the math though. Let's assume for the sake of argument that Invincible can reach the Moon in half a minute, and his dad is twice as fast (of course, this already puts them 16% of light speed). Do any NASA/SpaceX/Roscosmos/CNSA astrophysicists browse Cinemaphile?
Also to add to this, this also means he would have to be able to fly faster than light, which is under our current understanding of physics, not possible for anything with weight. It's why scifi always uses wormholes or hyperspace or some other form of FTL travel.
>I'm more perplexed at how the spaceship didn't get ripped apart when he was pulling it away.
It was on fire so it probably had no engines, and was just flying in the wrong direction. So it may not have been under the gravitational pull of the black hole, in which case all Nolan needs to do is apply the tiniest fraction of pull but make that pull constant to build up enough speed.
Given that he is a thousand year old warrior of gigantic space empire, it is fair to assume he has experience in this.
>pee yourself on purpose
>hold it while peeing and pee 5 min later
repeat
thats the fricking Accretion disk of a black hole
entire stars would be torn to shreds if they were near it
and you're telling me Viltrumites just punch
harder than that
It's a cartoon, dude
>it's a cartoon, so expecting the authors to make even the tiniest bit of sense within the context of their established universe is not necessary
Enjoy your slop then. Sick of people here treating standards like a bad thing. Get some and maybe you'll understand.
>so expecting the authors to make even the tiniest bit of sense within the context of their established universe is not necessary
This is a world where a demon is a private detective and a government agent casually knows the way for him to go to hell. Frick off
That's why I qualified my statement with "within the context of their established universe". If Viltrumites can be damaged by sub-planetary blows, what you see in that image should be ripping them to shreds. You frick off.
>Sick of people here treating standards like a bad thing
Very, very, very few writers think about consistency and power levels, mostly the internet authors.
Almost all writers write/display/animate what they think is cool, emotional or kino.
Enjoy being a b***h anon
Viltrumites bleed if punched hard enough by a really fast human. The force of a black hole might be little more than that.
It is a show where the main conflict is fighting people
Atom Eves fight in this episode is trash because she could literally just rearrange a guys guts with her mind but nooooo, gotta have fake ass conflict
>she could literally just rearrange a guys guts with her mind
she can't. She can only consciously do that with non living things
watch Invincible: Atom Eve
the guy was like 90% METAL
It's a mental block put in by that scientist guy, so maybe her mind recognizes the metal bits as "alive" since they're part of his body
so wait how the hell does she make plants grow
Except we saw her frick up that same guy's arm in her special and she was like 10 at the time
Besides she could have just evaporated the ground beneath them instead of just letting him give her a concussion
They are doing it again, they are nerfing Eve by making her stupid
Eve could probably straight up kill a Viltrumite but thatd be too easy so they make her moronic and stubborn instead
There probably is a way for her to do it. It would not be easy and she absolutely should not be able to take on more than one but yeah
>Except we saw her frick up that same guy's arm in her special and she was like 10 at the time
Cause she was pissed enough to overcome the mental block, but really eve's way to OP so the writers have to jump through hoops to stop her breaking the story
Because they're plants, not animals
ah! but if Goku does it everybody is just "that's goku for you! way to go buddy!"
>GODku out of nowhere.
GODku the GODLIEST of GODS out of nowhere. Do you let GODku stay in your head rent free?
>Dragon Ball fans have no standards
You don't say?
It's because of the scale of the force that stars bleed into black holes, not the power.
You can stably orbit black holes quite easily.
Being that near would still put him up to absurdly big gravity, enough to bend space time. The minute he spends there could be a year to anyone further away. That's the one thing wrong with that scene, not that he isn't crushed immediately (he is Superman, he can handle the immediate effects).
>Can survive this
>Jobs to other Viltrumites and other barely superhumans.
>Jobs to other Viltrumites
what?
he took them all out, he was just distracted with Mark and new family and haven't noticed that the first one survived
This shit is owned by Warner. Warner also owns Death Battle, power level shit is super popular.
And to add to this. they did the same shit in Mortal Kombat.
There is no way for a black hole to be this small
a black hole can range from the size of a molecule to the size of a galaxy and bigger, anon
they don't have a set size, they just keep growing slowly over billions of years
Nta, but I thought that blackholes only grow if
enough matter and/or light enter enter them to feed the process, and if for whatever reason, the blackhole's cut off from that, it'd start shrinking, and eventually dissipate.
Nta either
From what I remember, black holes do grow(at an extremely slow rate) assuming they have things to feed on. Feeding likely keeps them stable more than actually increasing them in scale or effect. They will occasionally stop feeding and go dormant (how that works is unknown). They also spit out some kind of radiation if I recall which would maybe result in dissipation if isolated from other matter.
Black holes also only work on a massive scale, if you made one the size of like idk a stadium, it'd supposedly dissipate nearly in an instant.
Most of this stuff is all theoretical though so it's all just maybes
Black Holes are created from gigantic amount of matter collapsing into itself under its own weight. Basically you have a cloud of hydrogen so big that its weight ignites itself by the gravitational pull collapsing the hydrogen to helium in a form of nuclear fusion. This is a star.
Once the hydrogen is used up, stars either cool off or if they are big enough, they have enough gravitational weight so they start fusing Helium (and they swell out into red giants).
If they are still big enough, they have enough weight to start burning whatever the helium fused into which I forgot.
This cycle continues until the material keeps fusing (at this point, collapsing) into itself until the star becomes a very tiny Neutron Stars which as so dense that a teaspoons worth of material would weight as much as the himalayas.
If the star was big enough to STILL continue collapsing on itself, then you get a black hole, which is so dense that that it can pull light into itself, creating the effect you saw in that scene in Invincible, which was taken from the movie Interstellar, which is at least scientifically accurate since they took NASAs description to create the scene.
The only actual real pictures of black holes we have (that aren't photos of your moms arse) is pic related.
He has antigravity fields that allows him to fly and cancel our other gravitational pulls
>He has antigravity fields that allows him to fly and cancel our other gravitational pulls
I mean sure but that's not how gravity works, fiction can only be so stupid.
>how the frick did he do that
It's all in the moustache
Man I'm getting real tired of this guy who comes into every Invincible thread to say
>UHH WHY DOESN'T ATOM EVE MURDER EVERYONE? IS SHE STUPID?
She got a family killed in a moronic way
its a decent question to ask if theyre gonna keep shoving Atom Eve down our throats
>Man survives the vacuum of space
>Can hold his breath for weeks
>Can fly at the speed of sound
>"WOAH DID HE JUST FRICKING SURVIVED A BLACK HOLE?!? MUH SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF"
lol shut up, it's a cartoon made for teens and young adults lmao
I'm just trying to understand how he faces danger from anyone at all
You speak as if teenagers and young adults don't take consistent power levels seriously - probably because you're an overgrown kid who doesn't know what normal people are like
>Can hold his breath for weeks and fly at the speed of sound
I'm not sure that would get you out of the solar system let alone to a black hole.
He went to an entire different galaxy when the story really didnt require that location to be in a different galaxy
now he, an an entire race of people, are basically intergalactic gods that can traverse entire galaxies without much trouble
The journey took 6 months
The Andromeda, the closest neighboring galaxy to Earth, is 2.537 million light years away.
you do not understand how fricking incomprehensibly fast he would need to be going to cover that much distance in 6,000 years, let alone 6 months
He can hold his breath for MONTHS, but I have no idea how fast he can fly. Also the scene at least shows that he went down to other planets, so he could've gotten breathers inbetween.
But I'm not sure the cartoon says how much time was spent between him leaving and arriving at Bug Town. Mark went from healing up to graduating to starting college classes, so it would have to be at least 3+ months.
I don't think the writers of the show appreciate just how big outer space is. There's a reason even hard sci fi nerds are willing to accept handwavy FTL technology in these stories involving different solar systems.
Actually I don't think it is as much bullshit as you think it is. Spaceships spend half their time accelerating, then half of it decelerating before reaching the destination point, because under weightlessness their inertia would keep carrying them forward at whatever speed they have. The constant acceleration is there to gain more speed, and it works by pushing hundreds of tons of mechanics forward. If a spaceship would cut its engines it would still move forward at the exact speed it has, barring any gravitational effects or collisions.
Why this matters is because the constant acceleration under weightlessness means that he is constantly building speed. He could be flying a thousand times his normal maximum speed in space. Add in shit like slingshots around a star to build even more speed, he'd by flying fast enough to reach other galaxies in his own power on pure speed alone.
The one big problem is that by doing so he would eventually reach the speed of light and a lot of crazy relativistic effects would happen at that point. His weight would increase thousandfold the closer he gets to that speed which bends spacetime and makes time run faster for him. A 6 months journey to him would mean that Earth is now the Planet of Apes by the time he gets back.
But as long as you completely ignore the relativistic effects, I'd say it is conceivable that he can reach other star systems under his own strength. Someone would have to check the math though. Let's assume for the sake of argument that Invincible can reach the Moon in half a minute, and his dad is twice as fast (of course, this already puts them 16% of light speed). Do any NASA/SpaceX/Roscosmos/CNSA astrophysicists browse Cinemaphile?
Also to add to this, this also means he would have to be able to fly faster than light, which is under our current understanding of physics, not possible for anything with weight. It's why scifi always uses wormholes or hyperspace or some other form of FTL travel.
In the comic flew from Earth to the Virgo Supercluster within a week
I'm more perplexed at how the spaceship didn't get ripped apart when he was pulling it away.
>I'm more perplexed at how the spaceship didn't get ripped apart when he was pulling it away.
It was on fire so it probably had no engines, and was just flying in the wrong direction. So it may not have been under the gravitational pull of the black hole, in which case all Nolan needs to do is apply the tiniest fraction of pull but make that pull constant to build up enough speed.
Given that he is a thousand year old warrior of gigantic space empire, it is fair to assume he has experience in this.