How the hell can a family, that is able to do magic and shit, be poor? I mean, what? It makes no fricking sense
How the hell can a family, that is able to do magic and shit, be poor? I mean, what? It makes no fricking sense
How the hell can a family, that is able to do magic and shit, be poor? I mean, what? It makes no fricking sense
because you can't magically create money lol
you can magically make stuff u can sell for money. or hell, change urself into a bank manager and just waltz in and steal money out of the vault
you don't need to. just walk into a bank and turn everyone into a troony. by the time you walk out the bank they'll all be committing suicide.
In book 4 theres literally a scene where the irish leprechauns create fake gold at the world cup
You better believe they are mortgaged out the ass to gringotts.
The weasleys must come from a line of absolute frickups then.
>In book 4 theres literally a scene where the irish leprechauns create fake gold at the world cup
and it all vanishes too
>have fake gold
>fool pawn shop
>leave with cash
I'd understand if they were muggle hatin and hangin folk that they didn't know about muggles, but since their dad is literally part of the "muggle technology office" if anyone could pull it off, he could. Part of me thinks it's funny how the muggle tech isn't referenced throughout the books, especially by hermione. But then again we'd get methods of rationality and "Voldemort is just like bush" moments. Kudos to JKR for not being a total hack.
Their dad's job is literally stopping people from scamming muggles in this way
>it's funny how the muggle tech isn't referenced throughout the books
there are a few in there, they mention scuba gear as a possible way to win the mermaid task in book 4
yeah there is an entire muggles studies class at hogwarts too. i think they kill the teacher off in book 7?
there is and they do, but it's described less as actually learning about the muggle world and more just a touchy feely 'muggles are people too!' class
>but it's described less as actually learning about the muggle world and more just a touchy feely 'muggles are people too!' class
Of course it is. If it was actually learning about the muggle world it would be evidence that they aren't people.
>Dude you can literally make counterfeit money why isn't everyone rich???
Just make fake money and pretend is real.
so do it then homosexual
jk rowling is unironically a racist. the worst kind of racist. the one that think she's not one.
all the stereotypes of the irish, blacks, asians, israelites, are all present in harry potter. and she got away with it simply because she's a a woman.
i chuckled when i realized seamus finnigan always blew stuff up when learning spells
He there were a lot of accidents that Samus caused. Only one thing blew up. Confirmed that you chuckle at tweets from desperate twitter trannies
Easy, they sold their royalties to JKR for a golden galleon. They meant a literal three mast wooden ship of pure gold. Then the authoress changed the lore. And a galleon coin is 10.07 dollars at the current exchange rate. It's the old native american land for a gallon of fire water switcheroo rip off, but in the magical UK
>poor
>own their own massive house
surreal stuff really
It makes sense why they'd 'be poor' in the sense of having to buy shitty brooms/owls and being worried about not affording schoolbooks or whatever
What doesn't make sense is their house being all run down considering how talented most of them are at magic. You can create magical creatures and joke gadgets out of nothing and kill high tier death eaters but not build a house that can fit all your kids? Frick off.
It's a story for children who's lore and world are based on imagination and whimsy
Was there a currency exchange for Muggle/Wizard money? You could probably use magic to make crazy money in the Muggle world and swap it over
yeah there was, in the books hermione's parents come to diagon alley to change money at gringotts
I guess Arthur weasley's job would cover that kind of fraud though, plus the ~~*goblins*~~ would definitely make sure there was no funny business going on
Yes but it's run by the """goblins""" and they basically control the entirety of all wizarding money. So they can tell if money is legitimate or a magical copy.
If you were fricking smart, what you'd do is just magically disable cameras in x radius via a cloaking spell around an atm, alohamora the atm, and walk off with the money. Then you'd go to gringotts and exchange small amounts of money as needed over time.
this or something similar would definitely work, like
said Arthur Weasley's department in the ministry would investigate it but
apparently it's super underfunded and basically just him running it
~~*Goblins*~~ only exchange muggle money if you are a true muggle.
They know all the tricks and the exchange is wholly subsidized by the ministry for the purpose of redistributing money to mudbloods. Ask yourself what use goblins could possibly have for muggle money? The answer is none, the ministry takes your taxes and reimburses the goblins (plus a little extra for the trouble) so that mudbloods can comfortably attend Hogwarts.
>Do their parents pay wizard taxes while their children are in school?
Of course not
It may surprise you to learn, but the exchange rate is so lopsided that the muggle money exchanged for 1 galleon could not buy a decent meal in the muggle economy while the gold alone is worth far more. A muggle could exchange their paper for a galleon, sell the coin for its gold value, return and buy over 100 galleons. The current push for mudbloods in our society is nothing more than a scam to enrich ministry officials and their ~~*goblin*~~ masters.
wouldnt the bank be bankrupt then?
>be muggle
>buy gold galleon with paper money at ~~*exchange rate*~~
>sell gold galleon for gold spot price
>return with more paper money
>repeat
At some point gringotts would run out of gold. Which might be the point. Willfully destabilize the wizarding financial system to introduce a worthless currency but keep all debts tied to the original value. Nah, noone would be that evil.
Melting goblin gold is illegal because all coins are the personal property of the goblin that minted them. They are aware of the imbalance between the economies and would figure out quickly if a wizard or muggle tried to take advantage of it.
That was just to illustrate the comparative pittance muggles have to pay for their children's schooling compared to actual wizard families that pay taxes.
>Melting goblin gold is illegal
not for muggles surely? How are they supposed to know?
They would get a warning the first time and have to pay a fine.
>hey muggle have you heard of goblins? Yeah? Well they're real and they make all the gold in the wizarding world - yeah wizards exist too don't interrupt - and you just smelted down a coin made by one of them. So DON'T DO IT AGAIN okay?
I meant that if the parents of mudbloods tried to have the coin(s) melted for weight value in the muggle economy, then they would get the warning. Not the muggle goldsmith.
is this head-canon or is something like this alluded to somewhere? Like how would a muggle even know it's a wizarding do-not-melt-me coin?
And this is assuming you'd need to melt it to make a profit. gold coins get traded for cash regularly. so if you just keep selling coins for paper cash. 200 IQ people could probably just hold on to the galleons and make money off of loans where the gold coins are the collateral for a bigger sum than they were originally bought for.
>is this head-canon or is something like this alluded to somewhere?
It's stated that under goblin laws, everything manufactured is personally owned by the goblin that made it. The sword of Gryffindor for example belongs to the goblin who smithed it.
It's also stated that goblins are the ones that mint the coins in the wizarding world, so the above applies to all coins.
> Like how would a muggle even know it's a wizarding do-not-melt-me coin?
A muggle wouldn't unless they were the parent of a mudblood.
>gold coins get traded for cash regularly.
Those coins are stamped with purity and weight measurements by the companies/nations that make them. A wizard coin would not have the same pedigree in the muggle economy and people wouldn't trust them without testing.
>It's stated that under goblin laws, everything manufactured is personally owned by the goblin that made it
Are goblins in a position to enforce that though? Many goblin made artifacts are in the hands of wizards, and many goblin rebellions ended poorly for the goblins.
>Those coins are stamped with purity and weight measurements by the companies/nations that make them. A wizard coin would not have the same pedigree in the muggle economy and people wouldn't trust them without testing.
Yes, testing would be required, but this is commonly done, as not only recognized "brands" of coins like krugerrands or gold eagles get sold, but family heirlooms, medallions or silverware that either does or doesn't contain X% of a precious metal. A galleon would be confirmed to weigh X and contain Y amount of gold. which would then result in a trade of Y ounces of gold vs Z GBP. Typically impurity and lack of fungibility (i.e. wedding band with an engraving of "Tom + Janet") that would make it hard to sell would result in a lower price than the actual spot price paid, but since galleons are fungible they could be traded at a price closer to spot.
>Are goblins in a position to enforce that though?
they were able to drive a high ranking ministry official into exile for welshing on a bet. I don't see why they couldn't go after people that tried to cheat the system by selling their coins on the muggle market, whether they melted them or not.
Adopting an urban ghoul as a household pet is no mere trifling endeavour. They require a steady diet of splendorous gold coins and will settle for no less, often becoming agitated and violent when denied so.
Harry and his chums discovered this in their fourth year at Hogwarts, when it was reported in the daily prophet that after being denied its regular sumptuous platter of lustrous gold galleons in favour of counterfeit muggle chocolate alternatives, the Weasley's beloved ghoul Wogollim had ransacked the Burrow and buggered the poor matron of the household for several brutally rowdy hours.
Arthur Weasley was to said to have watched the entirety of the carnage with rapt enthusiasm, and was later heard loudly pondering as to what else could fit up his wife's fat fricking arse.
>wife's fat fricking arse
unrelated reminder that Vernon met Molly Weasley for about 30 seconds and his enduring memory of her was "Woman with the Dumpy"
ironically that's the whole reason they adopted the ghoul in the first place, it was only once they started having kids and it became a matter of indecency that it became an issue. If ginny had been born first they'd still be rich
didnt the dad intentionally try to live like muggles would, he found all that muggle shit fascinating? did you miss the entire muggle sympathizer shit he was pushing? despite voldemort losing, most of the wizarding world still hates muggles. voldemort was aggressive about attacking them and kicking out mudbloods, the ministry took a hide and isolate approach. but the weasley's were one of the very few pure-wizardblood families that were pro-muggle.
He didn't intentionally live like a muggle, it was essentially just his weird dad hobby like how some dads are into model trains or whatever. You're right that him being empathetic toward muggles is what caused his lower social standing though, it was seen as kind of a joke.
Between that and SPEW being treated as a joke by most of the characters it's weird how lib JKR went after the books, I guess it's all performative though
>Between that and SPEW being treated as a joke by most of the characters it's weird how lib JKR went after the books
writing characters that are bigoted towards other species and classes of people does not mean she agrees with those views. literally they are always shown to be wrong, and there are plenty of other activist characters in the books too. the wizarding world was written to be in the middle of all that social change, not some utopia set after it. literally a major plot point in the books is trying to find the secret racists and voldemort sympathizers
>literally they are always shown to be wrong
the whole SPEW thing literally paints hermione as being wrong in no uncertain terms despite her trying to liberate a slave race
Arthur probably spent all his wizard money on cocaine and desperate muggle hookers willing to indulge his every sordid whim and fantasy.
Being an honest man of indomitable moral stature, he would have of course recompensed the women fairly for having their minds, bodies, and spirits thoroughly destroyed by the vast array of magically-enhanced kinks someone as prim as Molly would never indulge. Unscrupulous individuals like Lucius Malfoy and his ilk would simply resort to the Imperius curse.
They were one of the last few pureblood families, however, none of their ancestors or immediate relatives did anything "noteworthy". Basically, their entire lineage was poor. Arthur took up a shitty job that didn't pay well, Molly didn't work, and they had far too many kids.
Harry was born in to wealth because of James's job as an auror. They got paid frickloads because aurors risk their lives basically every day and deal with the worst possible shit imaginable when it comes to creative uses of wizarding terrorism.
harry's father was also from a prestigious rich family, just like sirius
>Harry was born in to wealth because of James's job as an auror.
the potters are old money, their wealth comes from a bunch of medicinal potions created in like the 12th century. auror work was never shown to be one that makes a ton of money, and he only did that for a short time anyways. james and lily were only out of hogwarts a couple years before they were killed. in early 20s when they died, super young. thats something the movies changed, they aged up harrys parents and all their friends so that alan rickman could play snape
>Harry was born in to wealth because of James's job as an auror
I think that's a fanfiction trope actually. One that's sort of seeped into commonly accepted headcanon simply because it fits the character well.
The Potter's main influx of wealth arrived from a recent ancestor that developed the potion that would become the Sleekeazy hair formula.
James and Lily Potter were basically unemployed vigilantes working full time for the Order of the Phoenix. Like many other purebloods conveniently robbed of their close relatives, James lived comfortably on the wealth he inherited as the last living heir of the Potter lineage.
It was actually Neville's parents I believe that were Auror's.
I thought lilly potter ran a successful potion business before they went into hiding?
Don't forget, they're a notable wizarding family to boot with government connections as well and many of the older sons are extremely successful. There is no reason whatsoever for the family to be poor, Rowling just wanted them to be so that they'd be more sympathetic.
>and many of the older sons are extremely successful.
none of them are successful
Bill, Percy, Fred and George are all successful by the sixth book. Charlie is more ambiguous but still
the only successful ones were the twins
bill was on the frontier, earning meager pay
percy was a joke buttboy for a goverment stooge
He was assisting to their equivalent of the prime minister. Im sure it paid well enough but the family got into a fight so he told them to shove it up their ass or whatever the frick Bill was a curse breaker for the main bank, Charlie worked with dragons (who knows if that paid anything) but either way they’re all fairly prestigious jobs compared to whatever Arthur must have been doing to earn shit for wages
>Bill was a curse breaker for the main bank,
Translation:
Bill helped goblins pillage wizard graves.
You said successful not moral
The Weasly family are poor for a bunch of reasons, the main ones being:
1. They are a bunch of Micks who don't believe in birth control so they have nearly half a dozen kids
2. They send ALL of the kids to a super expensive boarding school, which probably accounts to 90-95% of the family's yearly budget.
They'd be better off just sending their kids to a local public schools but since the dad is a government official, there is probably social pressure that he has to front the money for private schools for the kids or else be treated like a poor gay by his coworkers and bosses.
hogwarts is literally the only magic school in the UK and is also free
it's """free""" but the goblins get their greedy claws into you with all the shit you have to buy to attend
rowling knows
>all the shit you have to buy to attend
yeah like a wand? why would wizards every waste their money on that useless shit?
ron literally gets hand-me-down books and clothes. they arent spending much on him
you mean like schoolbooks? you're right, the weasleys definitely should've sent their kids to a school where those aren't necessary
>How the hell can a family, that is able to do magic and shit, be poor? I mean, what? It makes no fricking sense
welcome to post automation world, better earn your wealth now
Every family can shit.
voldmorts mother side of the family were poor as shit, the gaunts lived in a literal shack
wizarding worlds money is all based off gold galleons. Nicholas Flamel is the only wizard known to have created a philosopher's stone that could turn basic metals into gold. no other wizard has the ability to make money or real gold, certainly not the weasleys. gold is still a limited resource in HP, meaning so is money
I'm pretty sure Arthur Weasley could have probably used an undetectable extension charm to forge a mighty house out of his wife's cavernous old c**t.
Does their home owner's insurance include attacks by dark wizards? Something tells me the Goblins run insurance agencies too.
it was a retcon that the weasleys are even passing good at magic in the later books. it was clearly shown that arthur can't enchant for shit and that molly sucks at using magic items(for eg floo).
later rowling realized she couldn't have a bunch of teens counter an insane hot witch so she retconned weasleys into being part of the "resistance".
even then rowling couldn't resist the jab of truth and wrote that her bros died fighting voldemort coz they sucked at magic
The most fantastical part of HP's world is the existence of a society with a functioning meritocracy.
By working for magical government.
What do wizards even do for money? They go to a magic school to learn magic, but what then? Does learning magic mean you can just conjure up anything you want at any time so you never actually need anything? What makes rich and poor wizards? Do they have to get normal human jobs and it can be exchanged into wizard money?
>What do wizards even do for money?
They can:
Work for the government
Be a professional athlete.
Work for the government
Own a retail store
Raise magical creatures
Work for the government.
Write school books
Become a Hogwarts Professor
Die before the age of twenty five
Uh...