Having a mutant state is basically the same as happen to an albino state or any other genetic abnormality stay just because Mom and Dad has it doesn't mean the kids are going to have that same condition.
I mean, think about it. Magneto and many other Mutants killed a lot of innocent humans even when they never did anything against Mutants. Now their relatives are going to discover that the murderers of their beloved ones dared to get immortality while their relatives remain dead? That's not fair at all.
Honestly, you're thinking too small. Consider how many times that superheroes die, only to come back a few months later. Hell, consider how many times the X-men teams specifically die in an insanely spectacular fashion, only to show up either having played dead or without even providing an explanation. The regular folk are going to believe they had this shit the ENTIRE time, and are only now openly displaying it now that they have the monetary and political capital to be rendered untouchable and more importantly unaccountable to the rest of the world in regards to its potential usage in bringing back all those who died in so many tragic events over the years, not just mutants. And they're going to take their anger and frustration on not just the X-men, but the other heroes who they'll demand answers from in regards to if they had this tech lying around as well and were hoarding it like the X-men were.
If Marvel had the balls to follow through on this, this would pretty much shatter humanity's faith in superheroes worse than some petty civil war ever could.
It bothers me that the only thing needed to cave in Krakoa's house of cards is for Stark to release Extremis to the public. It doesn't even have to be the fancy Extremis that allows you to grow new and exciting organs, even a downgraded Extremis with its healing abilities intact would shit on the Krakoan drugs.
While you're 100% right in that releasing just any new medical advancement would pretty much spell doom for Krakoa's standing, Tony's gone that route too many times for anyone to trust whatever new scheme he has to elevate humanity. Hell, just recently he let godhood go to his head yet again and decided to test out using his powers by effectively lending his new godlike intelligence to the entirety of New York as a test run. At least before his friends grabbed Dr. Doom to shut that shit down, considering New York started eating itself alive from having so many egotistical geniuses getting in each other's ways. Marvel books suffer a lot from everyone but the X-men having to adhere to the "world outside your window" bullcrap no matter how contrived it gets.
That's the thing, he can start small like regrowing limbs or regenerating destroyed tissue, then move up to cosmetic surgery, the go one to more serious medical interventions like cancer. Something overlooked in the X-Men crap is that the medical field in 616 has probably collapsed due to the Krakoan drugs replacing most non-emergency, non-surgical treatments.
You have a point, but previous "resurrections" were through quite complicated situations. Here, the Mutants can be killed anytime and get an easy return ticket as if Death was meaningless.
as you said they were complicated, the civies would likely not be aware of the full details and everything that went on beyond 'spiderman dead... now spiderman alive again?
They would likely assume that they were just working out the kinks or hiding it, couple that with the waves of civy deaths that surround heroes and you have the recipe for the public to go into a q-anon style rage against anything wearing a cape
How will the world react knowing that the X-Men have cured death but aren't sharing the technology?
>flatscans demanding more gibsmedats >after their world being saved by the X-Men every other week >after already getting several miracle cures fopr free
Pathetic vermin.
Wait didn't Spider-Man specifically disproving the theory he's a mutant before?But I wonder how Spider-Man would react if one of his normal super villain has a mutant family member.
Still absolutely and utterly moronic that he isn't; that "muties" were made arbitrarily different from all the other heroes who gain their powers from genetic mutations.
"X-Gene" doesn't mean shit to your everyday person, which is the type of person who hates muties the most in Marvel.
The difference is being born with your powers as opposed to being granted them.
Being born powered makes mutants a demographic which is something entirely different than random normal people getting radiation buffs and stuff
My favorite seethes >This is a pretty pervasive mentality that I see a lot of in the media. The petty concern of "justice" that is just spite hidden under a veneer of rationality while dismissing the scale of the cost of his decision. The whole self defeating, anti human "you made your bed now lie in it" drivel that conservative types everywhere love to spout. Plus Orbis is a weapons dealer that would line up its pockets in the event of a war so it's not even sincere. >If the "consequences of their failures" is the death of billions then yeah, they should at least try to avert it. Even if it wasn't, the self defeating, autistic devotion to failure mindset that some people have can be a handicap to meaningful progress. Sometimes assuming the consequences is the better outcome for everyone, sometimes it isn't.
>being angry about the fictional group so hard that you discuss it in other thread
do you feel threatened by these "muties" irl
2 years ago
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>do you feel threatened by these "muties" irl
I AM one of those irl "muties" it's why I'm not a fan of the Krakoa era, it's an absolute abdication of the X-men's core values
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can only take scraps for so long before you want to fight for your rights.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They should be able to do that without turning into the enemy
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol
2 years ago
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My favorite seethes >This is a pretty pervasive mentality that I see a lot of in the media. The petty concern of "justice" that is just spite hidden under a veneer of rationality while dismissing the scale of the cost of his decision. The whole self defeating, anti human "you made your bed now lie in it" drivel that conservative types everywhere love to spout. Plus Orbis is a weapons dealer that would line up its pockets in the event of a war so it's not even sincere. >If the "consequences of their failures" is the death of billions then yeah, they should at least try to avert it. Even if it wasn't, the self defeating, autistic devotion to failure mindset that some people have can be a handicap to meaningful progress. Sometimes assuming the consequences is the better outcome for everyone, sometimes it isn't.
It's very strange how there's such a strong obsession with defending the problems in Post-hickman krakoa when disassembling x-men runs has been a fandom pastime since nicieza.
This is by far the most defensive a run ever got
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll give them this, current X-men has the illusion that it's better than the utter dogshit that was post AvX. Throw in the weird cult like mentality X-gays on Cinemaphile have and sprinkle a little nostalgia for the good ol days when the X-men ft. Spiderman WERE Marvel and you end up with homosexuals like
aw sweet, another Krakoa seethe thread
2 years ago
Anonymous
>current X-men has the illusion that it's better than the utter dogshit that was post AvX.
not with excalibur and marauders, no.
I mean I enjoy a good X-AU like anyone else but the number of character assassinations has grown exponentially.
Of what use is revendicating old characters in these grandiose redemption or condemnation arcs f they are basically new characters using old names?
Or shit like New Mutants' momentum getting killed so hard the book barely feels like it's first issues. I mean rahne is still cute but she ain't appearing in every single page.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hence the word "illusion", Marvel has replaced quality with "winning" which is apparently enough for these people
2 years ago
Anonymous
They just want their virtue signalling and twitter likes
this is the death of media as a form storytelling medium
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the weird cult like mentality X-gays on Cinemaphile
X-gays feel like a cult everywhere on the internet anon it is not only Cinemaphile
2 years ago
Anonymous
X-Men is the best it's been since Morrison maybe even earlier.
I actually like what Ewing and Gillen and to a lesser extent Spencer are doing way more than even Hickman
2 years ago
Anonymous
Spurrier right? I don't think Spencer will ever work with Marvel again after ASM.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah yes mistyped
the ball is raising the correct point that rezzing Xandra would not help the issue in the long run and the shi'ar empire is facing stagnation and collapse.
I don't think this is meant to be like in Excalibur where the tory wizard rejects Krakoa Howerd did not intend them to be correct there, Ewing is intentionally having Orbo bring up a valid point even if he is the villian.
The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar so they aren't a Dictatorial hellscape and to use the five for the common good.
2 years ago
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>The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar so they aren't a Dictatorial hellscape and to use the five for the common good.
so pretty much a civil war then
2 years ago
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>The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar
The closest we can do is put Sunspot on the throne I'm afraid
2 years ago
Anonymous
The last thing they need is to wank another mutant and give them an intergalactic space empire.
2 years ago
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>The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar so they aren't a Dictatorial hellscape
homie that's an even WORSE plan, Christ "let them burn" is starting to be the best possible outcome
2 years ago
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>X-Men is the best it's been since Morrison
no, X-Men during the messiah trilogy was great.
It's been the best since Schism, that's just a year before perlmutter fricking with marvel really started to show.
Ok, but that doesn't answer the legitimate question of "Why not her subjects?"
Because resurrecting Xandra will avert a war that would kill trillions. It's a no cost, all benefit kind of deal. Orbis' non-argument is just a weak excuse because he's a weapons manufacturer that would benefit from the war of succession, and anons swallowed it up because they're contrarian and moronic and casual advocacy for mass murder is based.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Explain to me why the Shi'ar deserve to live
Keep in mind, we're talking about people that accepted fricking Vulcan as Majestor at one point
2 years ago
Anonymous
Out of all the Galactic Empires the Shi'ar are perpetually teetering on "failed state" status (more so than the Kree and Skrulls) propped up by the X-men ever few years or so. How many times has Lilandra been deposed
2 years ago
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>Out of all the Galactic Empires the Shi'ar are perpetually teetering on "failed state" status (more so than the Kree and Skrulls)
only because it never collapsed unlike the Kree and the Skrulls that have multiple times collapsed due to their own incompetence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because not everyone in Shi'ar space had a say on that decision and there's no reason to condemn trillions to the horror of war when it could be easily averted.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Out of all the Galactic Empires the Shi'ar are perpetually teetering on "failed state" status (more so than the Kree and Skrulls) propped up by the X-men ever few years or so. How many times has Lilandra been deposed
essentially why should the Shi'ar empire for its near endless crimes and centuries and millennia be allowed to continue?
and what about the countless trillions more still living under the thumb of their slave masters? I doubt, "oh but lilandra is different from the other imperials, please don't make a break for it while we are weak" is at all a satisfactory response. all the X-Men are doing is acting as enforcers of a hated status que
2 years ago
Anonymous
MAYBE all those oppresed people should've been born as Mutants
THEN the X-Men would've cared
2 years ago
Anonymous
Brainlet take.
A nation that stagnates leads only to more misery. A rotting house must collapse, so a new and hopefully better one may be built in its place. War is the transformative force that can make that better nation. As for those trillions dead, that is just the unfortunate reality of the people paying the price for having lousy rulers, and why absolute monarchies are so terribly dangerous. Not just for other nations, but the nation itself.
The war needs to happen. It'll be painful, but it is necessary.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine being a fat edgelord who thinks transformation can only come from tragedy and murder. Imagine the absolute stench of shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine being a troony with a rotting wound between their legs, insisting that the corpulent stench is fine and normal, and refusing to face the reality of the situation so they it can play pretend.
Actions have consequence. The consequence for bad rulers is war. At the end of war, there is change. Denying that change brings stagnation, rot, and further misery. Far more misery than what is wrought from war.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine transexuals being your defense mechanism when you lash out, like they occupy your head 24/7. Further proof that anyone who uses the term "brainlet" is mildly moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>trannies out of nowhere
Holy rent free
2 years ago
Anonymous
Heres the thing the war IS inevitable (unless author fiat rules supreme and they don't have the balls to have the mutants fail). Putting the old ruler on the throne, making her immortal AND having a bunch of super strong outsiders run around as her black ops death squads only postpones the inevitable. In fact by doing so the X-men run the risk of making things WORSE down the line, like closing a valve on something with dangerously rising pressure without finding the cause of said pressure.
2 years ago
Anonymous
how long until a shit ton of pissed off revolutionaries across the imperium decide that the only way to liberation is to take the X-Men out and probably earth with them? they would not distinguish the rest of the planet or non-mutants role from krakoa
2 years ago
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>they would not distinguish the rest of the planet or non-mutants role from krakoa
Why would they Krakoa speaks for Sol so mutant failure on the galactic stage is a mark on Earth as a whole. Yeah some poor shmuck farming dirt in Mozambique gets atomized but that's the price the X-men are gonna pay by applying the CIA glowBlack person play book on the Galactic scale
2 years ago
Anonymous
the X-Men aren't really even that good at doing the glowBlack person shit on earth to being with, what's the last scheme they cooked up that hasn't exploded in their face or tried to come back to kill them at some point?
2 years ago
Anonymous
the war would happen sooner or later anyways, the Shi'ar Empire is falling apart because for generations it has existed as a absolutist slave state and its unwilling vassals are fricking sick of it, the ruling families incompetence and weight have made the situation unsalvageable
imagine how some of these peoples must feel watching a group of militants from some backwater planet begin acting as the teeth of the ruling family trying to force the status que they seem to despise on their homeworld on you
the ball is raising the correct point that rezzing Xandra would not help the issue in the long run and the shi'ar empire is facing stagnation and collapse.
I don't think this is meant to be like in Excalibur where the tory wizard rejects Krakoa Howerd did not intend them to be correct there, Ewing is intentionally having Orbo bring up a valid point even if he is the villian.
Are you seriously that much of a troll that you just assume that anyone who has a similar opinion is the same person? How the hell do you exist in the real world being that stupid?
>hurr let me just cause millions, maybe billions, of deaths because i'm salty about not being immortal
Absolute brainlet take, you have to be high on the "everything the x-men do is automatically bad" juice to think he's right.
The only real issue with Krakoa's system is that I doubt its ability to scale up. Like, I'm not sure it could manage to keep up with a really big population. Roughly 178,000 people die on Earth alone every day.
Craziest part is that there's no downside to resurrecting Xandra. No one dies or has their shit stolen or is in a worse than they were If they resurrect her. The cost of not doing it is enormous, the cost of doing it is nothing. It takes some extremely petty, commie logic to twist that into "How dare you not resurrect literally everyone else reee".
I'd say the people who want out from under the iron heel of the Shi'ar lose pretty hard, also as another anon said who really wants a bunch of extremists from earth potentially installing a manchurian candidate for an absolute monarch
An outside group with a history of directly interfering with Shi'ar politics directly connected to the current monarch insuring that said current monarch will never not be the monarch for all of time is also the kind of thing that causes a civil war that kills trillions. Not to mention this story comes shortly after one where the X-Men operate as hired guns to violently put down a rebellion by Shi'ar vassals tired of being exploited by the empire.
Plus it's not like they have some fricking magical elixir that returns people to life, It's 5 people that have to work hard to resurrect mutants. Imagine trying to apply that to the entire world. Can Cerebro handle that many backups? Would the five ever be able to rest? How long would the cues be, if just a few thousand mutants take so long. How do you single out who gets resurrected first among the people on the entire planet and how could you get them to agree. It's crazy.
Also, it is true that mutans have no incentive to share their miraculous shit for free. The krakoan medicine and other assorted benefits have already been given to the world at the surprisingly low price of recognition, It's not as if they were jealously guarding everything they have.
By all logic that should be an issue with the current numbers. Assuming that the 5 can resurrect 300 people per day, it'd take them almost 150 years to get through the Genosha backlog alone. Also the cost wasn't recognition, it was making mutants immune to all laws.
Did the xmen get a new mutant that can look into the future or something?
2 years ago
Anonymous
To be fair this IS the Shi'ar
2 years ago
Anonymous
no without lilandra they aren't ;_;
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope. But X-homosexual writers are starting to claim that Destiny possess omega level precognition. Just this week, they claim Xavier is the most powerful telepath in the universe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Just this week, they claim Xavier is the most powerful telepath in the universe.
That's not even true when just counting mutants
>gay troony trans-humanists don't understand the cycle of death and rebirth >also forget that the Shi'ar are literally fricking terrible
Orb knows that Rome has to fall eventually, the longer you let the rot fester the worse it gets. Letting some psychic revive people and totally not tamper with her memories and then install her is fine.
The usual: AAAAAAA KILL THE MUTIES.
It's the same way 'tards always react towards a hated minority, although for the record and for a variety of reasons, super beings really don't work very well in the role of hated minority.
I think the misunderstanding that mutants could revive people who died as a result of accidents or in the crossfire of mutants and that they are choosing not too would stoke a tremendous amount of hatred
>misunderstanding that mutants could revive people who died as a result of accidents or in the crossfire of mutants and that they are choosing not to
It's not a misunderstanding. The Wanda incident shows that they can revive anyone if they made a backup, mutant or not. And Sinister already had a complete database of genomes if every person on Earth.
Mutants CAN revive anyone.
In the beginning of the Hickman era Xavier literally tells the entire world why he’s not sharing the stuff they’ve created with them for free (he would have given everything they have if humans had just accepted mutants).
If they hadn’t been a bunch of buttholes to mutants, they would have immortality too.
I would argue that it's just hickman being a lousy writer who doesn't think in a big picture way, and just throws whatever he shits for the sake of his pseudo-high sci fi concepts. I'm fricking glad he's off the books, he was terrible
He spoke of their medicines. Their immortality was kept a state secret until Cyclops let it get out. Also, seems pretty petty to punish everyone for a portion of them did. It would be like punishing all of North America because of the actions of a couple of Rednecks
Plus it's not like they have some fricking magical elixir that returns people to life, It's 5 people that have to work hard to resurrect mutants. Imagine trying to apply that to the entire world. Can Cerebro handle that many backups? Would the five ever be able to rest? How long would the cues be, if just a few thousand mutants take so long. How do you single out who gets resurrected first among the people on the entire planet and how could you get them to agree. It's crazy.
Also, it is true that mutans have no incentive to share their miraculous shit for free. The krakoan medicine and other assorted benefits have already been given to the world at the surprisingly low price of recognition, It's not as if they were jealously guarding everything they have.
>Plus it's not like they have some fricking magical elixir that returns people to life, It's 5 people that have to work hard to resurrect mutants.
Clone them and make more fives. Make them just programmable meat puppets with no personality or soul who do nothing besides pumping out dead people >Can Cerebro handle that many backups?
Make more Cerebros. >How long would the cues be, if just a few thousand mutants take so long. How do you single out who gets resurrected first among the people on the entire planet and how could you get them to agree. It's crazy.
See above. The only reason writers can't solve these problems is their utter lack of imagination. Hell, Krakoa HAS already cloned lobotomized telepath brains to build a mental phone line connecting Earth with Mars. There is a precedent already. On top of that, there are plenty of mutants who can copy powers. There's Synch, there's Rogue, there's Mimic. Hell, they can take all five powers needed for resurrection and do the whole thing BY THEMSELVES. Don't want to use mutant labor? Just swipe a Super-Adaptoid, mass-produce it and do the same thing.
Literally none of these problems are actually problematic. It's just the writers being hacks with no imagination.
>Plus it's not like they have some fricking magical elixir that returns people to life, It's 5 people that have to work hard to resurrect mutants.
Clone them and make more fives. Make them just programmable meat puppets with no personality or soul who do nothing besides pumping out dead people >Can Cerebro handle that many backups?
Make more Cerebros. >How long would the cues be, if just a few thousand mutants take so long. How do you single out who gets resurrected first among the people on the entire planet and how could you get them to agree. It's crazy.
See above. The only reason writers can't solve these problems is their utter lack of imagination. Hell, Krakoa HAS already cloned lobotomized telepath brains to build a mental phone line connecting Earth with Mars. There is a precedent already. On top of that, there are plenty of mutants who can copy powers. There's Synch, there's Rogue, there's Mimic. Hell, they can take all five powers needed for resurrection and do the whole thing BY THEMSELVES. Don't want to use mutant labor? Just swipe a Super-Adaptoid, mass-produce it and do the same thing.
Literally none of these problems are actually problematic. It's just the writers being hacks with no imagination.
Also, they even considered giving their mutant powers to outsiders. What stops Krakoans from establishing a system where a squad of mutant volunteers have the powers of Five given to them to lighten the load on main Five?
What I think it’s funny is that they don’t do it to their own human relatives. Like Jean’s entire family was wiped out from the Shiar, including some mutant kids but no one ever mentions them. Or Lilandra, Cyclops’ mother, Daken and Laura’s mothers, etc.
What I think it’s funny is that they don’t do it to their own human relatives. Like Jean’s entire family was wiped out from the Shiar, including some mutant kids but no one ever mentions them. Or Lilandra, Cyclops’ mother, Daken and Laura’s mothers, etc.
having resources outside the group means members have a greater likelihood of leaving or start questioning the groups ideology
Cults love orphans and people with estranged families for that reason
the implication that a large number of mutants who were killed because they were murderers or extremely dangerous be resurrected would be cause for consternation
>Marvel tries to make the Inhumans into Mutants >NOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DO THAT YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO US WHY ARE YOU PERSECUTING US MUTANTS? >Marvel makes the Mutants into Inhumans >Why are you so mad that Mutants are winning for once? You are prejudiced agains this obviously real minority >Marvel retcons the twins out of being Mutants >NOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DO THAT? GIVE THEM BACK RIGHT NOW! PIETRO AND WANDA BELONG TO MAGNETO AS HIS ALWAYS LOYAL CHILDREN LIKE THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE ADAPTATIONS! >Kamala is an Inhuman >How dare an Inhuman be popular! Give her to us right now! Retcon her into a Mutant! We need to put her in some background panels doing nothing except remind people she exists!
X-gays are the most hypocritical fandom in Marvel
Elixr, Triage, and others are the pretty mutants who can literally hand wave away cancer. It's not Mr Sinister who has shark teeth and neon syringes or Sugarman
Elixr, Triage, and others are the pretty mutants who can literally hand wave away cancer. It's not Mr Sinister who has shark teeth and neon syringes or Sugarman
>A few homosexuals speak for everyone
By that logic and X-men...
Guess that makes the Botherhood of Evil mutants, the Acolytes and Apocolypse and his horsemen "a vocal minority" and the benchmark all mutants should be judged
What technology? It's literally just mutant power. Non-mutants has already been doing this via cloning. And unlike the mutants, they don't require a memory implant to jump start the new body.
I used to think so as well, but apparently in Jane Valkyrie's book death itself confirmed that it's indeed resurrection and not just cloning. So I guess the process somehow returns souls to their cloned bodies.
I doubt anyone with half a brain would've agreed to "resurrection protocols" otherwise.
I agree. And frankly I hope this would be ignored and the topic of clones not being originals will come up at some point. But then again it would make every mutant look stupid because it would require them all either knowing that they are clones and not caring that the original is dead, or not thinking about it at all and being completely blindsided by that revelation.
If Hickman wanted this to make sense he should have addressed the clone/soul problem at the very beginning. I don't think any X-writer bothered to bring this up in any way.
The ressurections are very fricking weird if you really think about it. The memories can be corrupted. You can only resurrect until your last backup. If the writers really didn't think that this is cloning, I would really be second guessing their intelligence.
The writers also think artificial insemination is cloning. X-23 was created when they insert Wolverine's genetic material into Sarah Kinney's egg. And for years writers would claim this is cloning instead of artificial insemination. Capeshit writers are some of the most moronic writers in existence outside of self-insert fan-fiction writers.
>If Hickman wanted this to make sense he should have addressed the clone/soul problem at the very beginning
Hickman wasn't expecting to get usurped by his underlings and Marvel. Everything that's happening past Inferno isn't part of whatever he was planning
It's weirder in context to how most other Marvel properties effectively consider clones to be their own personages, especially Spider-Man where it's verified that cloned versions of already existing people have their own souls. You have to wonder how fricked the afterlife would become if someone brought all those clones back to life and then suddenly they all had their own souls as well.
Heres the thing the war IS inevitable (unless author fiat rules supreme and they don't have the balls to have the mutants fail). Putting the old ruler on the throne, making her immortal AND having a bunch of super strong outsiders run around as her black ops death squads only postpones the inevitable. In fact by doing so the X-men run the risk of making things WORSE down the line, like closing a valve on something with dangerously rising pressure without finding the cause of said pressure.
Honestly, considering that the X-men have been rather gleefully playing Imperialist in the most brazen manner possible i.e. Directly involving themselves in the Snark war of succession, deposing Morgan le fay in Otherworld and installing mad king Jamie Braddock on the throne, effectively taking control of the Brood, their direct manipulation of the galactic economy after it was absolutely skullfricked by Knull's army of black goo, all their prior involvement with propping up the Shi'ar throne specifically to protect Xavier's lover/daughter, along with what are probably a host of other things that I probably haven't found out, this kind of shit should be the absolute last straw for anyone in the galactic community, not just the revolutionaries. They're lucky Marvel doesn't give a shit about Cosmic Marvel and that the Kree-Skrull empire is basically backing the X-men up, cause their galactic reputation would be mud otherwise
doesn't help that the broad majority of the Shi'Ar never much liked the X-Men, even before the whole Jean Grey Eats a star and essential gets off scot free thing
also the whole Mutants placing a half-breed in position of total control would be like Rasputins daughter getting the Tsars crown
The same way they reacted to Wakanda curing cancer and not sharing it with the world out of spite, or Green Goblin using a weaponized cancer cure to briefly inconvenience Deadpool.
They had Reed Richard tier genius wandering about for decades, the tech to create interdimensional transport, mass teleportation,, clean energy, long range transport and deep space travel. Nobody ever gave a shit, so why they would care if muties have such biotech gizmos?
Having a mutant state is basically the same as happen to an albino state or any other genetic abnormality stay just because Mom and Dad has it doesn't mean the kids are going to have that same condition.
You really want some mutie putting your mind back together after you die.
About as well as you'd expect it to
People is going to get berserk against Mutants.
I mean, think about it. Magneto and many other Mutants killed a lot of innocent humans even when they never did anything against Mutants. Now their relatives are going to discover that the murderers of their beloved ones dared to get immortality while their relatives remain dead? That's not fair at all.
Honestly, you're thinking too small. Consider how many times that superheroes die, only to come back a few months later. Hell, consider how many times the X-men teams specifically die in an insanely spectacular fashion, only to show up either having played dead or without even providing an explanation. The regular folk are going to believe they had this shit the ENTIRE time, and are only now openly displaying it now that they have the monetary and political capital to be rendered untouchable and more importantly unaccountable to the rest of the world in regards to its potential usage in bringing back all those who died in so many tragic events over the years, not just mutants. And they're going to take their anger and frustration on not just the X-men, but the other heroes who they'll demand answers from in regards to if they had this tech lying around as well and were hoarding it like the X-men were.
If Marvel had the balls to follow through on this, this would pretty much shatter humanity's faith in superheroes worse than some petty civil war ever could.
It bothers me that the only thing needed to cave in Krakoa's house of cards is for Stark to release Extremis to the public. It doesn't even have to be the fancy Extremis that allows you to grow new and exciting organs, even a downgraded Extremis with its healing abilities intact would shit on the Krakoan drugs.
While you're 100% right in that releasing just any new medical advancement would pretty much spell doom for Krakoa's standing, Tony's gone that route too many times for anyone to trust whatever new scheme he has to elevate humanity. Hell, just recently he let godhood go to his head yet again and decided to test out using his powers by effectively lending his new godlike intelligence to the entirety of New York as a test run. At least before his friends grabbed Dr. Doom to shut that shit down, considering New York started eating itself alive from having so many egotistical geniuses getting in each other's ways. Marvel books suffer a lot from everyone but the X-men having to adhere to the "world outside your window" bullcrap no matter how contrived it gets.
That's the thing, he can start small like regrowing limbs or regenerating destroyed tissue, then move up to cosmetic surgery, the go one to more serious medical interventions like cancer. Something overlooked in the X-Men crap is that the medical field in 616 has probably collapsed due to the Krakoan drugs replacing most non-emergency, non-surgical treatments.
What's this from?
the current Iron man run by Cantwell. I think it was issue 16.
>I actually think I just became dumber
Reed can roast homies almost as good as Spiderman
Cheap DOOM pastiche.
I fricking hate world outside your window shit.
Go full Monty Wild storm
>Stark to release Extremis to the public
didn't he do this(or at least his brother did) in gillians Iron man run and then superior Irom-man
Anon you know the Avengers will "not be like them" so mutants can get genocided not the flagship heroes.
You have a point, but previous "resurrections" were through quite complicated situations. Here, the Mutants can be killed anytime and get an easy return ticket as if Death was meaningless.
The main focus here are Mutants.
as you said they were complicated, the civies would likely not be aware of the full details and everything that went on beyond 'spiderman dead... now spiderman alive again?
They would likely assume that they were just working out the kinks or hiding it, couple that with the waves of civy deaths that surround heroes and you have the recipe for the public to go into a q-anon style rage against anything wearing a cape
>flatscans demanding more gibsmedats
>after their world being saved by the X-Men every other week
>after already getting several miracle cures fopr free
Pathetic vermin.
Wait didn't Spider-Man specifically disproving the theory he's a mutant before?But I wonder how Spider-Man would react if one of his normal super villain has a mutant family member.
With the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if they just say frick it and make him one
They did what is young daughter one-time in AU. to go to the day Xavier Institute.
I only read the porn parody of this
I wonder if that bit was supposed to be a clever nod to House of M where he faked being a mutant
Still absolutely and utterly moronic that he isn't; that "muties" were made arbitrarily different from all the other heroes who gain their powers from genetic mutations.
"X-Gene" doesn't mean shit to your everyday person, which is the type of person who hates muties the most in Marvel.
The difference is being born with your powers as opposed to being granted them.
Being born powered makes mutants a demographic which is something entirely different than random normal people getting radiation buffs and stuff
I believe the proper term for Spider-Man is "mutate", not "mutant".
An alien summed it up best in this weeks X-men
Let me guess
He's the villain and is portrayed as being wrong
Yes there were even a bunch of posters in that thread shitting on him despite him being 100% correct
Fricking X-gays
My favorite seethes
>This is a pretty pervasive mentality that I see a lot of in the media. The petty concern of "justice" that is just spite hidden under a veneer of rationality while dismissing the scale of the cost of his decision. The whole self defeating, anti human "you made your bed now lie in it" drivel that conservative types everywhere love to spout. Plus Orbis is a weapons dealer that would line up its pockets in the event of a war so it's not even sincere.
>If the "consequences of their failures" is the death of billions then yeah, they should at least try to avert it. Even if it wasn't, the self defeating, autistic devotion to failure mindset that some people have can be a handicap to meaningful progress. Sometimes assuming the consequences is the better outcome for everyone, sometimes it isn't.
>being angry about the fictional group so hard that you discuss it in other thread
do you feel threatened by these "muties" irl
>do you feel threatened by these "muties" irl
I AM one of those irl "muties" it's why I'm not a fan of the Krakoa era, it's an absolute abdication of the X-men's core values
You can only take scraps for so long before you want to fight for your rights.
They should be able to do that without turning into the enemy
lol
It's very strange how there's such a strong obsession with defending the problems in Post-hickman krakoa when disassembling x-men runs has been a fandom pastime since nicieza.
This is by far the most defensive a run ever got
I'll give them this, current X-men has the illusion that it's better than the utter dogshit that was post AvX. Throw in the weird cult like mentality X-gays on Cinemaphile have and sprinkle a little nostalgia for the good ol days when the X-men ft. Spiderman WERE Marvel and you end up with homosexuals like
>current X-men has the illusion that it's better than the utter dogshit that was post AvX.
not with excalibur and marauders, no.
I mean I enjoy a good X-AU like anyone else but the number of character assassinations has grown exponentially.
Of what use is revendicating old characters in these grandiose redemption or condemnation arcs f they are basically new characters using old names?
Or shit like New Mutants' momentum getting killed so hard the book barely feels like it's first issues. I mean rahne is still cute but she ain't appearing in every single page.
Hence the word "illusion", Marvel has replaced quality with "winning" which is apparently enough for these people
They just want their virtue signalling and twitter likes
this is the death of media as a form storytelling medium
>the weird cult like mentality X-gays on Cinemaphile
X-gays feel like a cult everywhere on the internet anon it is not only Cinemaphile
X-Men is the best it's been since Morrison maybe even earlier.
I actually like what Ewing and Gillen and to a lesser extent Spencer are doing way more than even Hickman
Spurrier right? I don't think Spencer will ever work with Marvel again after ASM.
Ah yes mistyped
The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar so they aren't a Dictatorial hellscape and to use the five for the common good.
>The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar so they aren't a Dictatorial hellscape and to use the five for the common good.
so pretty much a civil war then
>The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar
The closest we can do is put Sunspot on the throne I'm afraid
The last thing they need is to wank another mutant and give them an intergalactic space empire.
>The correct solution would be to regime change the Shiar so they aren't a Dictatorial hellscape
homie that's an even WORSE plan, Christ "let them burn" is starting to be the best possible outcome
>X-Men is the best it's been since Morrison
no, X-Men during the messiah trilogy was great.
It's been the best since Schism, that's just a year before perlmutter fricking with marvel really started to show.
Ok, but that doesn't answer the legitimate question of "Why not her subjects?"
Hey these were my replies.
Because resurrecting Xandra will avert a war that would kill trillions. It's a no cost, all benefit kind of deal. Orbis' non-argument is just a weak excuse because he's a weapons manufacturer that would benefit from the war of succession, and anons swallowed it up because they're contrarian and moronic and casual advocacy for mass murder is based.
Explain to me why the Shi'ar deserve to live
Keep in mind, we're talking about people that accepted fricking Vulcan as Majestor at one point
Out of all the Galactic Empires the Shi'ar are perpetually teetering on "failed state" status (more so than the Kree and Skrulls) propped up by the X-men ever few years or so. How many times has Lilandra been deposed
>Out of all the Galactic Empires the Shi'ar are perpetually teetering on "failed state" status (more so than the Kree and Skrulls)
only because it never collapsed unlike the Kree and the Skrulls that have multiple times collapsed due to their own incompetence.
Because not everyone in Shi'ar space had a say on that decision and there's no reason to condemn trillions to the horror of war when it could be easily averted.
essentially why should the Shi'ar empire for its near endless crimes and centuries and millennia be allowed to continue?
and what about the countless trillions more still living under the thumb of their slave masters? I doubt, "oh but lilandra is different from the other imperials, please don't make a break for it while we are weak" is at all a satisfactory response. all the X-Men are doing is acting as enforcers of a hated status que
MAYBE all those oppresed people should've been born as Mutants
THEN the X-Men would've cared
Brainlet take.
A nation that stagnates leads only to more misery. A rotting house must collapse, so a new and hopefully better one may be built in its place. War is the transformative force that can make that better nation. As for those trillions dead, that is just the unfortunate reality of the people paying the price for having lousy rulers, and why absolute monarchies are so terribly dangerous. Not just for other nations, but the nation itself.
The war needs to happen. It'll be painful, but it is necessary.
Imagine being a fat edgelord who thinks transformation can only come from tragedy and murder. Imagine the absolute stench of shit.
Imagine being a troony with a rotting wound between their legs, insisting that the corpulent stench is fine and normal, and refusing to face the reality of the situation so they it can play pretend.
Actions have consequence. The consequence for bad rulers is war. At the end of war, there is change. Denying that change brings stagnation, rot, and further misery. Far more misery than what is wrought from war.
Imagine transexuals being your defense mechanism when you lash out, like they occupy your head 24/7. Further proof that anyone who uses the term "brainlet" is mildly moronic.
>trannies out of nowhere
Holy rent free
Heres the thing the war IS inevitable (unless author fiat rules supreme and they don't have the balls to have the mutants fail). Putting the old ruler on the throne, making her immortal AND having a bunch of super strong outsiders run around as her black ops death squads only postpones the inevitable. In fact by doing so the X-men run the risk of making things WORSE down the line, like closing a valve on something with dangerously rising pressure without finding the cause of said pressure.
how long until a shit ton of pissed off revolutionaries across the imperium decide that the only way to liberation is to take the X-Men out and probably earth with them? they would not distinguish the rest of the planet or non-mutants role from krakoa
>they would not distinguish the rest of the planet or non-mutants role from krakoa
Why would they Krakoa speaks for Sol so mutant failure on the galactic stage is a mark on Earth as a whole. Yeah some poor shmuck farming dirt in Mozambique gets atomized but that's the price the X-men are gonna pay by applying the CIA glowBlack person play book on the Galactic scale
the X-Men aren't really even that good at doing the glowBlack person shit on earth to being with, what's the last scheme they cooked up that hasn't exploded in their face or tried to come back to kill them at some point?
the war would happen sooner or later anyways, the Shi'ar Empire is falling apart because for generations it has existed as a absolutist slave state and its unwilling vassals are fricking sick of it, the ruling families incompetence and weight have made the situation unsalvageable
imagine how some of these peoples must feel watching a group of militants from some backwater planet begin acting as the teeth of the ruling family trying to force the status que they seem to despise on their homeworld on you
was this not the plot of a Hickman X-men issue?
Did no one see altered carbon!?
samegayging is a sin
I appreciate your effort in editing the post in ms paint. That certainly required 9000 hours in paint. Good job samegay
This ball was gonna let a trillion body count civil war prop up.
The obvious solution is to make it so NO ONE has to die if they don't want to .
>The obvious solution is to make it so NO ONE has to die if they don't want to .
Do you want the Cancerverse?
Key word is "if they don't want to"
Space ball that is a weapon dealer:
>I'm against resurrecting Xandra, even though her death will lead to huge wars. For moral reasons.
He's still correct though, you can't refute his point so you attack his character
the ball is raising the correct point that rezzing Xandra would not help the issue in the long run and the shi'ar empire is facing stagnation and collapse.
I don't think this is meant to be like in Excalibur where the tory wizard rejects Krakoa Howerd did not intend them to be correct there, Ewing is intentionally having Orbo bring up a valid point even if he is the villian.
>based discoball
And of course the X-gays shit on him for it because everything has to be ‘mutants are always right’
how long are you going to samegay? you can post it in the main storytime, unless you are afraid of a discussion?
Are you seriously that much of a troll that you just assume that anyone who has a similar opinion is the same person? How the hell do you exist in the real world being that stupid?
>Literally just sour grapes over not having immortality
Is this really something haters think is a good argument?
>hurr let me just cause millions, maybe billions, of deaths because i'm salty about not being immortal
Absolute brainlet take, you have to be high on the "everything the x-men do is automatically bad" juice to think he's right.
The only real issue with Krakoa's system is that I doubt its ability to scale up. Like, I'm not sure it could manage to keep up with a really big population. Roughly 178,000 people die on Earth alone every day.
Craziest part is that there's no downside to resurrecting Xandra. No one dies or has their shit stolen or is in a worse than they were If they resurrect her. The cost of not doing it is enormous, the cost of doing it is nothing. It takes some extremely petty, commie logic to twist that into "How dare you not resurrect literally everyone else reee".
I'd say the people who want out from under the iron heel of the Shi'ar lose pretty hard, also as another anon said who really wants a bunch of extremists from earth potentially installing a manchurian candidate for an absolute monarch
An outside group with a history of directly interfering with Shi'ar politics directly connected to the current monarch insuring that said current monarch will never not be the monarch for all of time is also the kind of thing that causes a civil war that kills trillions. Not to mention this story comes shortly after one where the X-Men operate as hired guns to violently put down a rebellion by Shi'ar vassals tired of being exploited by the empire.
By all logic that should be an issue with the current numbers. Assuming that the 5 can resurrect 300 people per day, it'd take them almost 150 years to get through the Genosha backlog alone. Also the cost wasn't recognition, it was making mutants immune to all laws.
Her death leads to a violent civil war to install a NEW dictator. It wouldn't free anyone.
Did the xmen get a new mutant that can look into the future or something?
To be fair this IS the Shi'ar
no without lilandra they aren't ;_;
Nope. But X-homosexual writers are starting to claim that Destiny possess omega level precognition. Just this week, they claim Xavier is the most powerful telepath in the universe.
>Just this week, they claim Xavier is the most powerful telepath in the universe.
That's not even true when just counting mutants
>Let's keep the same leader alive on the throne forever
The raw irony of your take is astounding
>gay troony trans-humanists don't understand the cycle of death and rebirth
>also forget that the Shi'ar are literally fricking terrible
Orb knows that Rome has to fall eventually, the longer you let the rot fester the worse it gets. Letting some psychic revive people and totally not tamper with her memories and then install her is fine.
That Space Ball is 100% correct. I hope the X-Men and their big gay island get fricking nuked.
The usual: AAAAAAA KILL THE MUTIES.
It's the same way 'tards always react towards a hated minority, although for the record and for a variety of reasons, super beings really don't work very well in the role of hated minority.
the world can suck a dick, like it always does
I think the misunderstanding that mutants could revive people who died as a result of accidents or in the crossfire of mutants and that they are choosing not too would stoke a tremendous amount of hatred
>misunderstanding that mutants could revive people who died as a result of accidents or in the crossfire of mutants and that they are choosing not to
It's not a misunderstanding. The Wanda incident shows that they can revive anyone if they made a backup, mutant or not. And Sinister already had a complete database of genomes if every person on Earth.
Mutants CAN revive anyone.
Why the frick should they share?
In the beginning of the Hickman era Xavier literally tells the entire world why he’s not sharing the stuff they’ve created with them for free (he would have given everything they have if humans had just accepted mutants).
If they hadn’t been a bunch of buttholes to mutants, they would have immortality too.
I would argue that it's just hickman being a lousy writer who doesn't think in a big picture way, and just throws whatever he shits for the sake of his pseudo-high sci fi concepts. I'm fricking glad he's off the books, he was terrible
He spoke of their medicines. Their immortality was kept a state secret until Cyclops let it get out. Also, seems pretty petty to punish everyone for a portion of them did. It would be like punishing all of North America because of the actions of a couple of Rednecks
That sounds more like Magneto speaking than Xavier.
Because they took our jobs!
Plus it's not like they have some fricking magical elixir that returns people to life, It's 5 people that have to work hard to resurrect mutants. Imagine trying to apply that to the entire world. Can Cerebro handle that many backups? Would the five ever be able to rest? How long would the cues be, if just a few thousand mutants take so long. How do you single out who gets resurrected first among the people on the entire planet and how could you get them to agree. It's crazy.
Also, it is true that mutans have no incentive to share their miraculous shit for free. The krakoan medicine and other assorted benefits have already been given to the world at the surprisingly low price of recognition, It's not as if they were jealously guarding everything they have.
>Plus it's not like they have some fricking magical elixir that returns people to life, It's 5 people that have to work hard to resurrect mutants.
Clone them and make more fives. Make them just programmable meat puppets with no personality or soul who do nothing besides pumping out dead people
>Can Cerebro handle that many backups?
Make more Cerebros.
>How long would the cues be, if just a few thousand mutants take so long. How do you single out who gets resurrected first among the people on the entire planet and how could you get them to agree. It's crazy.
See above. The only reason writers can't solve these problems is their utter lack of imagination. Hell, Krakoa HAS already cloned lobotomized telepath brains to build a mental phone line connecting Earth with Mars. There is a precedent already. On top of that, there are plenty of mutants who can copy powers. There's Synch, there's Rogue, there's Mimic. Hell, they can take all five powers needed for resurrection and do the whole thing BY THEMSELVES. Don't want to use mutant labor? Just swipe a Super-Adaptoid, mass-produce it and do the same thing.
Literally none of these problems are actually problematic. It's just the writers being hacks with no imagination.
Also, they even considered giving their mutant powers to outsiders. What stops Krakoans from establishing a system where a squad of mutant volunteers have the powers of Five given to them to lighten the load on main Five?
What I think it’s funny is that they don’t do it to their own human relatives. Like Jean’s entire family was wiped out from the Shiar, including some mutant kids but no one ever mentions them. Or Lilandra, Cyclops’ mother, Daken and Laura’s mothers, etc.
Don't forget Kitty's dad, she certainly did.
having resources outside the group means members have a greater likelihood of leaving or start questioning the groups ideology
Cults love orphans and people with estranged families for that reason
>Humans were buttholes to mutants
Magneto and Apocalypse gave humanity plenty of reason.
>today I shall remind them
the implication that a large number of mutants who were killed because they were murderers or extremely dangerous be resurrected would be cause for consternation
>Marvel tries to make the Inhumans into Mutants
>NOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DO THAT YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO US WHY ARE YOU PERSECUTING US MUTANTS?
>Marvel makes the Mutants into Inhumans
>Why are you so mad that Mutants are winning for once? You are prejudiced agains this obviously real minority
>Marvel retcons the twins out of being Mutants
>NOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DO THAT? GIVE THEM BACK RIGHT NOW! PIETRO AND WANDA BELONG TO MAGNETO AS HIS ALWAYS LOYAL CHILDREN LIKE THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE ADAPTATIONS!
>Kamala is an Inhuman
>How dare an Inhuman be popular! Give her to us right now! Retcon her into a Mutant! We need to put her in some background panels doing nothing except remind people she exists!
X-gays are the most hypocritical fandom in Marvel
This whole Krakoa arc was exceptionally poorly thought out
Horribly.
People forget, that The Mutants were curing cancer FOR FREE and people still protested them with poorly made picket signs.
Like Elixr,Triage, and other healers disbanded from the X-Men to do humanitarian shit curing cancer and people were protesting that
would you trust anything this fricker wants to inject into you?
Elixr, Triage, and others are the pretty mutants who can literally hand wave away cancer. It's not Mr Sinister who has shark teeth and neon syringes or Sugarman
No they just put Mr. Shark Teeth on the ruling council thats much better
>Magneto wearing his helmet
>Having telepathic chat
???
>A few homosexuals speak for everyone
By that logic and X-men...
Anon they show up with thousands of protesters it is the vocal minority
Guess that makes the Botherhood of Evil mutants, the Acolytes and Apocolypse and his horsemen "a vocal minority" and the benchmark all mutants should be judged
The bigger question is how long till Lady D gets tired of their bullshit and rings up Thanos to go push their shit in?
isn't thanos a jobber at this point?
Marvel should just bite the bullet and make mutants villains(they already are but at this point they should make it official).
Hickman was a mistake
What technology? It's literally just mutant power. Non-mutants has already been doing this via cloning. And unlike the mutants, they don't require a memory implant to jump start the new body.
>still seething over x-men
Why is no one talking about how their immortality in resurrection isn't actual resurrection? It's just a glorified cloning tank.
I used to think so as well, but apparently in Jane Valkyrie's book death itself confirmed that it's indeed resurrection and not just cloning. So I guess the process somehow returns souls to their cloned bodies.
I doubt anyone with half a brain would've agreed to "resurrection protocols" otherwise.
Nonsensical handwave to cover for a fundamentally dumb take on the idea.
I agree. And frankly I hope this would be ignored and the topic of clones not being originals will come up at some point. But then again it would make every mutant look stupid because it would require them all either knowing that they are clones and not caring that the original is dead, or not thinking about it at all and being completely blindsided by that revelation.
If Hickman wanted this to make sense he should have addressed the clone/soul problem at the very beginning. I don't think any X-writer bothered to bring this up in any way.
The ressurections are very fricking weird if you really think about it. The memories can be corrupted. You can only resurrect until your last backup. If the writers really didn't think that this is cloning, I would really be second guessing their intelligence.
The writers also think artificial insemination is cloning. X-23 was created when they insert Wolverine's genetic material into Sarah Kinney's egg. And for years writers would claim this is cloning instead of artificial insemination. Capeshit writers are some of the most moronic writers in existence outside of self-insert fan-fiction writers.
>If Hickman wanted this to make sense he should have addressed the clone/soul problem at the very beginning
Hickman wasn't expecting to get usurped by his underlings and Marvel. Everything that's happening past Inferno isn't part of whatever he was planning
It's weirder in context to how most other Marvel properties effectively consider clones to be their own personages, especially Spider-Man where it's verified that cloned versions of already existing people have their own souls. You have to wonder how fricked the afterlife would become if someone brought all those clones back to life and then suddenly they all had their own souls as well.
Honestly, considering that the X-men have been rather gleefully playing Imperialist in the most brazen manner possible i.e. Directly involving themselves in the Snark war of succession, deposing Morgan le fay in Otherworld and installing mad king Jamie Braddock on the throne, effectively taking control of the Brood, their direct manipulation of the galactic economy after it was absolutely skullfricked by Knull's army of black goo, all their prior involvement with propping up the Shi'ar throne specifically to protect Xavier's lover/daughter, along with what are probably a host of other things that I probably haven't found out, this kind of shit should be the absolute last straw for anyone in the galactic community, not just the revolutionaries. They're lucky Marvel doesn't give a shit about Cosmic Marvel and that the Kree-Skrull empire is basically backing the X-men up, cause their galactic reputation would be mud otherwise
doesn't help that the broad majority of the Shi'Ar never much liked the X-Men, even before the whole Jean Grey Eats a star and essential gets off scot free thing
also the whole Mutants placing a half-breed in position of total control would be like Rasputins daughter getting the Tsars crown
Hopefully by carpet-nuking Krakoa until the water itself glows.
There was this scp fic were they kill death and it was one of the scariest things I ever read
The same way they reacted to Wakanda curing cancer and not sharing it with the world out of spite, or Green Goblin using a weaponized cancer cure to briefly inconvenience Deadpool.
aw sweet, another Krakoa seethe thread
Why do they have the whole thing about Spider-Man being a Mutant when it has been said a hundred times already that Spidey is NOT a Mutant?
Haven't there been like only three non-evil Shi'ar Majestors and one of them was Gladiator who's not even a Shi'ar?
but this time Xavier's kid is on the throne
They had Reed Richard tier genius wandering about for decades, the tech to create interdimensional transport, mass teleportation,, clean energy, long range transport and deep space travel. Nobody ever gave a shit, so why they would care if muties have such biotech gizmos?
mutants aren't smart enough to hide that it exists and not flaunt it as a show of superiority