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How would The Monarch fare in DC?
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Sucide Squad death to show that Waller means business to the rest of the team.
Assuming Rusty isn't also in DC, the question becomes who does Monarch try to arch? Something to note is there would be no Guild of Calamitous Intent restricting him, though that also means he does not have the protection provided by it. Ted Kord is perhaps the closet character that, however loosely, resembles Team Venture (in as much that he is cross-between the scientist & businessman Rusty and the fighter Brock - although I admit this is not a strong similarity, with the main difference being Ted Kord has a secret identity) and creatively you have the beetle/butterfly insect aspect. Batman would be similar to Blue Beetle and comes with the advantage of having a Hank & Dean through various sidekicks however, although Batman is a scientist, Wayne is not an inventor/scientist in the same way Kord is. From a creative standpoint I could perhaps also see The Monarch working as enemy of The Flash or, if this was Marvel, Spider-Man. If anything the main issue is going to be why does The Monarch want to arch anyone who is not Rusty? It is also not as if The Monarch is interested in world domination.
Which leads to the other possibility that Monarch, or Malcom, instead becomes The Blue Morpho - that will go with the idea that between Malcolm and Rusty it is Rusty who should be the villain and Malcolm the hero. In the case he does become the Blue Morpho there are two questions to ask: 1) who are his enemies, and 2) what is his relationship with other heroes like?
It's hard to tell, the only people he's arched are Rusty and Captain Sunshine, and the only reason he can take Sunshine, a guy whose weakness is half of the day, is because Sunshine thinks he's invincible. On the other hand prime Monarch had an army of henchmen, a floating cocoon, and a variety of super science weapons. He'd probably end up as a villain for a low end a-lister, maybe green arrow, or a b-lister with a more high tech arsenal like Ted Kord as
said
>It's hard to tell, the only people he's arched are Rusty and Captain Sunshine
He also arched Wide Wale's brother. It is worth mentioning his time as Blue Morpho where he goes after the villains who Wide Wale subletted Venture arching rights to.
>Assuming Rusty isn't also in DC,
I think we can safely assume that in DC, Rusty built a homemade sub and turned himself into ketchup
Doc Magnus ?
maybe Simon Stagg? Metamorpho being the Brock Samson in this relationship .
>Doc Magnus ?
You get the issue of
>maybe Simon Stagg? Metamorpho
They are antagonists to one another
Congorilla?
Villains in venture bros is just expensive cosplaying.
The moment he tries to do any serious crime he’ll get his ass shutdown
Doesn't he kill wonderboy and professor Dugong? Seems like he's being held back if anything
To quote Brock without the Guild holding villains back
>"You are looking at a bunch of pissed off nutbags with rayguns and giant, I do not know, a giant octopus/tank with laser eyes."
When it comes to Monarch arching Rusty he is not only being constrained by the Guild but, more so he is being self-constrained with whatever mentality he has specifically about Rusty. In DC Monarch has neither the Guild nor that mentality restraining. Without Rusty The Monarch may not even become a villain as his villainy is all geared towards messing with Rusty.
He's not even a huge threat in his own universe. Any villain above like a level 6 or 7 would match or wipe the monarch. It's usually only by blind luck and guild guidelines that someone like wide wale, or monstro doesn't effortlessly vaporize him. Hell the only reason they even survived cremation creek against the guild was because brock helped and it cost him everything except 21 and dr. mrs. his wife. Captain Sunshine could solo him during the day.
That's sort of thing applies to all sorts of fiction, including DC. It's the same reason why John Wick never gets shot in the head or the villain never just kills James Bond. I don't see why if The Monarch got sent to DC that the universe wouldn't just allow him to luck out.
Monarch is the rare combination of luck, the ability to talk untold levels of bullshit with a straight face, and actually dangerous when backed into a corner or extreme stressed out/pissed off.
Give him 21 and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch and he'd probably be pretty successful in the B and C tier category of villainy. We're talking shit like teaming up with Section 8 and Lobo to sneak into Star Labs to blow up the bathrooms and steal a sound gun that is specifically attuned to give people hit with it uncontrollable bowels for 12 hrs kinda shenanigans.
Only way this ends is with one of the flash's getting hit while going at the speed of frick and covering an entire city with super fast shit before Flash can stop
As much as I love VB, I've got to say I'm disappointed it didn't follow an arc of Monarch somehow causing the end the Guild/OSI babysitting system and a return to passionate true villainy by people who truly just hate each other.
Ironically the only other villain I can think of who arches out of pure personal hatred is St. Cloud.
>against someone he hates
Quite well, he's somehow competent at hiring quality goons and has gotten good at simply stealing the tech and weapons that his super smart wife can't make.
>against a literally who
He doesn't care enough to try
>somehow competent at hiring quality goons
Gotta give him credit for recognizing the "rare combination of expendable and invulnerable" in 21 and 24. Reminds me of HBO's Rome, where Caesar recognizes that the gods seem to not want the 2 OC main characters to die and decides its best to just let them do their thing.
I really liked those moments, plot armor recognition is just too funny
does he have Doctor Mrs. The Monarch with him?
Judging by OP image yes, and it is just more interesting if he does. That does raise the wider question is this him born in DC or finding himself transported to it? If it is the latter then at what point from The Venture Bros. is it him? Arguably he became even more dangerous as the show went on. A similar point to be made about 21 - is he with the Monarch and if so is it early or late 21?
It seems to be all about motivativation, he can punch well above his weight and be resourcesful if it accomplishes something his obessed with.
I don't think Malcolm would have been able to become "The Monarch" without Rusty. Regardless, without Two-Ton 21 or The Guild he'd be pretty much screwed.
Not enough non-evil super scientists in DC for him to arch really. He might try arching Lex at first before losing half his minions to Lexcorp armored corps. I can see him as a Green Arrow villain, or maybe a Flash villain once or twice. He really doesn't have a villain motivation other than to hate rusty, so i do not know what he might do as a typical evil guy with minions, flying cocoon and other gadgets.
In Marvel I can see him hating on Reed and filling the same role as the Wizard.
>non-evil super scientists
Ted Kord was a good call, or maybe Mr. Terrific?
>non-evil super scientists in DC
Ted Kord is the best candidate. As
says
>Ted Kord is perhaps the closet character that, however loosely, resembles Team Venture (in as much that he is cross-between the scientist & businessman Rusty and the fighter Brock - although I admit this is not a strong similarity, with the main difference being Ted Kord has a secret identity) and creatively you have the beetle/butterfly insect aspect.
I think the problem is not necessarily the lack of non-evil super scientists in DC but, they are are not generic enough (The Atom's deal is very specifically shrinking/sub-atomic; STRIPE is power amour) or come with teams that Monarch could not handle (Will Magnus is tied to the Metal Men; Niles Caulder is tied to Doom Patrol).
Mr. Terrific on paper seems like it could work but, it just doesn't feel like a right fit for Monarch. Maybe I am not familiar enough with Terrific but, he seems a bit too bland for Monarch to arch.
I think they all seem like a mismatch because Rusty's not really a crimefighter. I can't really think of a surviving character who really fits the super scientist/adventurer mold these days.
Neither prolific or mainstream enough (and a deliberate throwback) but, Tom Strong. Published in DC-owned imprints and guest stared in DC series The Terrifics.
Steel would be another example of a science hero in DC however, again that is another case of being both rather specific in focus and just not suiting Monarch.
>How would The Monarch fare in DC?
How would The Blue Morpho fare in DC?
What about Booster Gold as someone for Monarch to arch? BG doesn't have the super-science intelligence yet he has the technology. There is also something in his personality that could work in their dynamic and/or have given Monarch reason to want to arch him.
He'd be the Dean to Kord's Rusty
Hank*
>a VB to DC comparison where Hank is anyone but THE BAT
Booster Gold would probably actively look for someone to arch him to boost his ratings.
I can see The Monarch finding Booster Gold a nuisance and insisting they are not archenemies but,
Booster Gold keeps being there and coming along with Monarch's actual arch Blue Beetle.
>Booster Gold is the arch equivalent of that one guy that tried way too hard to get in women's pants that it comes off as desperate and a major turn off
>Rich obsessive Orphan from North Jersey
He'd be a joke villain that makes Bruce Wayne take a good hard look at himself. He's all the worst parts of Killer Moth and Penguin. Maybe even push the joke harder and have him be a childhood acquaintance of Bruce
Why exactly would the Monarch want to arch Batman? I could see him maybe having something against Bruce Wayne but, it is not as if it is public knowledge that the two are one in the same. Besides, if Monarch knew why would he just not reveal it?
>another dead Boy Wonder
Monarch killed Wonder Boy, sidekick to Captain Sunshine.
>Killer Moth
Killer Moth has Barbara, so is it Steph or Cass that gets shipped with the Monarch?
Monarch is married
>Steph
Monarch
>Cass
Dr. Mrs. The Monarch
I can see him arching Captain Marvel or the Blue Beetle
Is he pretending that his opponent is Rusty? This is important.