PonyXL is for cartoon porn mostly and understands anatomy amazingly, it's not great for realism but there are a few realism merges picrel was made with EverClearPNY but a good 1.5 or SDXL model will blow it away for SFW realism
>AI generated images less slop than full fledge cinematic productions.
That doesn't even make sense. Like I get it that on modern tv and cinema hasn't been good for a decade but saying uninspired AI generated prompts are somehow less slop is moronic. Both are slop but one is even more soulless.
AI is a meme. I won’t ever be paying a cent for anything that has AI generated content. I’ve been lobbying for it to be required to disclosure use of AI in film.
It's not a bit, it's some talentless tv writer who's been crying in the writer's strike thread about how the studios won't pay him what he's worth (which is in actuality nothing)
Was that the same thread that literally devolved into the Writer Strike-Supporters admitting they were commies and squealing about how they dreamed of killing every non-communist in existence?
If it's "soulless slop", can't you tell that by looking at it? If that's the case you don't need it disclosed to you, let alone a legal requirement for filmmakers to do so.
Or are you admitting you CAN'T, in fact, tell the difference?
Idiot, low I.Q, subhuman. You probably think videogames are art and the interactive “meduim”.
If you’re clampring for a FILM that’s persoanl to you, how about you understand and respect the great classics of cinema
first?
It’s subhuman philistines like you that are ruining the culture.
You type like a clown. Also I do appreciate classic cinema. If you did you wouldn't be whiteknighting the shit that's come out the last 10 years. Turns out quotas, DEI outsourced casting and writers rooms have killed cinema and creativity. At this point I'd rather watch things from 10-15 years ago and play around with an AI movie maker programme for my own enjoyment.
> Turns out quotas, DEI outsourced casting and writers rooms have killed cinema and creativity.
And you think AI is better? You think AI can fix this? Movies are still too far out in the future but you have you looked at generated music?
You think subhuman philistines playing around with trash like that because they go monkey brain over the novelty and are too stupid to appreciate the greatness we had in the past are gonna fix music?
It’s less stinky dirt compared to the new Hollywood dirt but it’s dirt nontheless, utterly worthless and if you give stinky dirt the time of day, it makes me think you don’t understand the truly valuable things in life and you are part of the problem.
Why are anti AI people like you so hysterical? Nothing is going away or being taken away just a lot of people have fallen out of love with media being made in the Netflix era. The people making these productions are also telling portions of their audience if they don't like it get fricked and watch something else. AI can put together a cool high definition image in seconds, maybe one day it could do the same for a movie based on some prompts, that wouldn't be cool to you no?
>If you did you wouldn't be whiteknighting the shit that's come out the last 10 years. >He actually thinks what spawns AI will be worth more than garbage.
You are white knighting the same people, since of course they would use the same soulless tools to produce eve more quantity for less quality.
I wouldn't care what they are making because I wouldn't be watching it anyway. But if not a non cucked version of the same AI tools were available to the public I would rather use my own prompts than some talentless woke students who have taken over all media productions. Let them make their shit I don't care.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
> AI can put together a cool high definition image in seconds, maybe one day it could do the same for a movie based on some prompts, that wouldn't be cool to you no?
Did you not read what I told you about music?
> Turns out quotas, DEI outsourced casting and writers rooms have killed cinema and creativity.
And you think AI is better? You think AI can fix this? Movies are still too far out in the future but you have you looked at generated music?
You think subhuman philistines playing around with trash like that because they go monkey brain over the novelty and are too stupid to appreciate the greatness we had in the past are gonna fix music?
It’s less stinky dirt compared to the new hollywood dirt but it’s dirt nontheless, utterly worthless and if you give stinky dirt the time of day, it makes me think you don’t understand the truly valuable things in life and you are part of the problem.
It’s gonna play out the same way. Just a ton of AI generated trash thrown into the wild. With no chance of a new human cultural or artistic movement rising again.
Because idiots like you are impressed with the novelty facotrs and are failing to recognize or articulate the causes of the decline across all creative efforts in the last 20 years
>And you think AI is better? You think AI can fix this?
Yes. Unironically, unequivocally, YES. Frick you.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Good bugman
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're the bug. And we're currently squashing you under the power of Pleb-powered entertainment.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You will live in the pod and consoom the AI slop.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I already live in my own house, homosexual-stain. Cope and seethe. Maybe you should've tried to make actual cinema instead of propagandist gay-slop. Reap what you sow.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Youre arguing with your own imagination anon
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
People like you that are hysterical over AI are typically on the side of the people supporting living in pods & eating bugs, gaygola.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
what was his problem?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
those women used AI
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're the bug. And we're currently squashing you under the power of Pleb-powered entertainment.
Name your 10 favorite films right now. Low I.Q bugman. You have no exposure to or understanding of art.
to you it's all the same, you might as well be consuming tik-tok shorts, it's all just a blend of images to your undeveloped brain.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Imagine looking at the absolute slop that is AI generated music and thinking yep, AI is gonna solve the problem of art, kino on demand is here boys.
This is even ignoring the problem of compute, generating 1hour+ consistent films may be impossible both algorithmically and considering resources but I don't want to crush the bugmen dreams.
These bugmen are so low I.Q, they are impressed by GPT-4 and thought OpenAI latest video was OMG LE EPIC HER MOMENT!!! These bugmen are so low I.Q they are capable of having deep conversations with chatbots.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AI can't do hands
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It still can't apparently
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>grug based and redstoned becuase grug no impressed by fire
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yep grug actually intelligent and has some knowledge about both culture and technology.
You're an idiot low I.Q pop-sci let Kutzgestat tell me what to think, 0 worth ever came out your moth type idiot.
You don't eve like films. to you it's all might be some tik-tok shorts.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Rock do ALL thing. Fire only do one thing. Dumb cave bug.
You're a fricking moron, yeah there will be plenty of shit, but also all-new kinos made by individuals basically for free that could not otherwise be made
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
No. No kino will be made, people who think otherwise have no reference to what kino actually is.
AI has added 0 value to music. What makes you think it's gonna add value to film?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are you moronic? You can generate shots without shooting anything. It won't be "AI, make me a movie" for a long time, nor would it be producing quality stuff for a long time, but one autist can write and then generate a whole movie shot by shot.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You mean like Stoyboards?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
But it will look like real footage and move? So no
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is what I want to do I call it an "AI enhanced storyboard". I will use Renpy: it will have music and sounds, Maybe even voices.
When the tools to make a movie are available it will be as easy as feeding the whole thing to the AI to get a feature movie out.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
soulless
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No. No kino will be made
OK, thanks for your worthless "prediction", grandpa.
>If you did you wouldn't be whiteknighting the shit that's come out the last 10 years. >He actually thinks what spawns AI will be worth more than garbage.
You are white knighting the same people, since of course they would use the same soulless tools to produce eve more quantity for less quality.
Luddite homosexuals like you are delusional. A century ago you would be rioting like an ape in the streets of London to protest the use of mechanical threshing machines.
Ignorant gays like you fell for Bitcoin, Theranos, Teslas, buy the latest iPhone every year and have fell for a 100 different technology scams because they are idiots who are told what LE NEXT BIG THINS is and can't think for themselves.
Without looking it up tell me who Edward Witten is.
This is all you can think of. You have no exposure to art, culture technology or science beyond le epic /misc/ memes (I am genuinely racist natsoc btw but that's besides the point) and whatever 10 second clips about LE EPIC FUTURE you come across on tiktok.
And YET you feel so confident talking about all these things. Who raised you and why did they do such a terrible job?
To lump self-evolving AI in with Teslas and Bitcoins only further shows your misunderstanding. You seen to think it's just some flavor-of-the-month novelty and not an enormously disruptive force. You're probably just another homosexual with a DeviantArt account who's worried about losing their furry clientele.
Yeah, yeah we get it. You saw some pop-sci video about the singularity and exponential growth and you think you know it all.
AI is just the same flavor of scam as SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink (idiots like you probably think this is cyberpunk, lol) and whatever garbage the oil snake Elon is selling.
I am not a Luddite, I am just actually educated about technology unlike you.
>I am not a Luddite, I am just actually educated about technology unlike you.
You're seething about revolutionary new tech and feel threatened by it. You're a Luddite and an asshurt moron. But you could try name-dropping another mathematician if you think that makes you seem like less of a pseud
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lagrange is my favorite actually. But I am not seething I am disappointed, disappointed that people are falling for this trash, the next venture capitalist pump and dump.
and they feel confident talking about art, culture and technology the know nothing about. Do yourself a favor, before you cum your pants about AI revolutionizing an industry you know nothing about or care for, try actually educating yourself about said Industry.
Try watching some Wang Kar Wai, Ozu films but given your bugman status, I am afraid you might not appreciate them.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Lagrange is my favorite actually. >try actually educating yourself about said Industry. >Try watching some Wang Kar Wai, Ozu films
>cope cope cope I want the past to come back because I can only see things based on old perspectives cope cope cope
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Lagrange is my favorite actually. >try actually educating yourself about said Industry. >Try watching some Wang Kar Wai, Ozu films
not an argument. I am not seething. I am genuinely disappointed. This is for your own good, kid.
I don't mean to be obnoxious, You are probably depressed and that's why you're banking on the singularity/AI to change the status quo. It won't change the status quo of society, it won't change the status quo of art. Sorry no robotwaifus either.
But there's hope. Start actually caring about art and witness the greatness that humanity has achieved, in music, in film, in science.
Start by watching IMDB 250, then you can watch 1000 films to see before you die, and you will branch out from there to more obscure artists. Your life will improve for it.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's obvious I'm talking to an underage pseud, especially given the undeserved smugness and need to have your intellect validated. Please go on about some more unrelated shit to demonstrate your intelligence and refined media taste.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Spoiler: he is an underage pseud. His singular film reference point is apparently Kubrick, the biggest pseud director of all time every pretentious teenager gets suckered into thinking is a genius. I would know, I was once young and insufferable myself.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Spoiler: he is an underage pseud. His singular film reference point is apparently Kubrick, the biggest pseud director of all time every pretentious teenager gets suckered into thinking is a genius. I would know, I was once young and insufferable myself.
I'm 33 you homosexual. Kubrick is the goat, all the great filmmakers and critics recognize this. What's your reference point to cinema the artform that you so passionately talk about and have high hopes of revolutionizing it?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh, so you're just a pseud. What a lame normie sensibility you have. Gotta expand those horizons, guy.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Do you're just an aspergers dude in his 30s then
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You still haven't told me what your refrence point in film is? do me a favor, log in into letterboxd and show me what's the percentage
https://letterboxd.com/peterstanley/list/1001-movies-you-must-see-before-you-die/
This dude
Taxi Driver, Hara-Kiri, Hidden Fortress, Seven Samurai, The Longest Day, Hellraiser, 8MM, Heat, Blood Diamond, Black Hawk Down, The Thin Red Line
posted his taste and he has soul and exposure to cinema, turns out he is not an AI gay.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>turns out he is not an AI gay.
Tell us about the AI gay. What does he believe?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm 42 you condescending jackass. Your predictably disparaging interpretation of me based on a post is not only wrong but telling about your own attitudes. You sound like a dumb kid. Top 250 of IMDB. What a dorky NPC. Better chance of making a movie now than ever, since it won't cost millions of dollars and hundreds of various buttholes that have to physically stick their nose in the actual creative vision. Anyway, you're dumb and punching way above your weight in this thread.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Easier access to filmmaking over the last 40 years didn't result in better films. Independent music and easier access to music than ever (you can now literally simulate an entire band on your laptop) didn't lead to better music.
Why you think it would be different with AI?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
What the frick are you on about? The cinematic and musical output has been fantastic in the past 40 years. It only got shittier and shittier because the film and music industry stopped taking risks but non-mainstream music and film has continually been thriving as tech got better. You really hace no idea what you're talking about. Is this your dad's opinions or something you're regurgitating here? He sounds like an idiot. You are young and inexperienced (and obviously not particularly well-cultured).
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dall-E threads must frighten you shills; imagine Kino videos produced as easy! You're terrified AR the thought, Kino made as easily as Dall-E images! Go poop your pants, Hollyshat, your time is almost up!
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
*at the thought
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
40 years maybe a stretch, but the last 20 years of music and films have been pretty dry despite all the new accessibility not saying nothing good came out but accessibility did not multiply exponentially the amount of good works
I look at some of my favorite films from 20+ years ago, Electric Dragon 80k, Ichi the Killer and filmmakers in the old industries had no problem making the most batshit insane things that put today's kids to shame.
>Lagrange is my favorite actually. >try actually educating yourself about said Industry. >Try watching some Wang Kar Wai, Ozu films
He's right and you're not using an actual artificial intelligence at all.
Art cannot be obsessed objectively, so it's moronic to demand that someone describe how art has "improved" >it can though
No. You're just a culture war ideologue.
Art is objective and thinking that using AI isn't itself THE compromise is hilarious. All of AI is a compromise, it's a semi-random image generator lmfao
>Art is objective
You're just a moronic Black person then.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't have an argument against the objective assessment of art, got it.
Just acknowledge your error lol
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Black person have you ever participated in any of the on-topic threads here? More than half are about differing interpretations of a film or show.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>moron thinks that contention is a proof for subjectivity
Yes, and I've seen this idiotic non-argument plenty of times; I've addressed it too. >https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21144046/#21165722
Even your moronation isn't novel. That's how pathetic you are lmfao
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
My nephew's sketches are just as good as Caravaggio, frick you!
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Even your moronation isn't novel. That's how pathetic you are lmfao
I read that moronic screed and it's just a bunch of "nuh uh" posting, you have to actually say what makes art objective and how you measure and quantify those objective qualities.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It doesn't count because it just doesn't okay
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Way to understand the post you're replying to. By what metrics and criteria do you critically evaluate art in an objective way?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still projecting this hard
lmfao
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
meant for
It does and You're probably terrified, aren't you, HollyShat? Your time of incident is bearing!
whoopsies
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just take it to the logical extreme. >My nephew's sketches are just as good and artistically valid as Caravaggio, frick you!
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am not even an artist. I don't have an artistic bone in my body but I recognize people that are far more talented than me, AI won't make me as talented as them.
It's obviously you're the one with insecurities, lol, work on yourself.
Can you answer
Way to understand the post you're replying to. By what metrics and criteria do you critically evaluate art in an objective way?
instead of deflecting with your underage autism?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am agreeing with you, moron. My nephew's sketches are just as good and artistically valid as Caravaggio.
It's all subjective, after all.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
This sort of smarmy disingenuous behavior is very womanly jsyk. You're a massive pussy.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
And worrying about criteria in complex systems is a midwit thing. A simple example is enough to prove that art is not subjective, some people are BETTER at it than others.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And worrying about criteria in complex systems is a midwit thing.
This is the cope you're using for your post hoc rationalizations. You're such a moronic Black person you can't even remotely articulate your point
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>art is not subjective, some people are BETTER at it than others.
How is this so hard to understand? you might not be acquainted with mathematics but the simplest proofs are the most elegant and profound.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
How do you objectively quantify or measure the skill of an artist? Stay focused on the answer please.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
By the complexity of the pieces they can play and their creativity. Skilled musicians will outright tell you "that guy has way more skill than I do".
they can feel it because they are on top of their game. You don't need to put a mathematical model on everything.
Beep boop. AI has added 0 value to music. Beep Boop
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
How do you objectively quantify or measure the skill of an artist? Stay focused on the answer please.
[...]
Can you answer [...] instead of deflecting with your underage autism?
I uh also already addressed the point >https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22230377/#22242527
It is, as with all things, evaluated according to its function.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like I said, you didn't actually counter any of those points, just said "nuh uh", and espoused fallacies like "REAL art should do XYZ". >evaluated according to its function.
Explain the function of art in your own words
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>same fallacy of pigheadedness as before
and the strawman you invented isn't even fallacious or wrong?
Regardless, if you ACTUALLY read my post (you didn't) you'd find that I established the function of art in a prior thread, linked within said post. >https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/190410913/#190418351
You must legitimately be very dumb, or maybe ESL.
Very few human endeavors if any are actually subjective. Whenever people start to do anything some people are going to be objectively better at it than others.
You're the autist here. Well shoot, just grab a guitar anon and start shredding you'll be the next Carlos Santana.
No genuinely. Why are you being an autist? You can't objectively measure the quality of food so the oversalted omlette I cooked might as well be as good as 5 star meal by Ramsay.
You can't argue against these either.
Your entire position relies on, ironically, saying "nuh uh" "akshually that's subjective because it just is" or something to that effect.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Is this post you?
it's entropy. very low entropy carries little information, but so does very high entropy. information is highest somewhere in-between.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>erm I hope this post is you because then I would get to argue against some moron and not an established argument
Not even trying homosexual
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol I was sincerely asking you sperg. Nobody ITT can sufficiently explain how to objectively assess the quality of art, they just deflect with esoteric babble, logical fallacies, and shitty analogies.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but you definitely need a dose of reality if you think your nephew's painting is just as valid artistically as Caravaggio.
You need to actually explain how art is objectively measured for quality instead of hoping this shitty analogy will do all the heavy lifting for you
And why can't you understand that your claim "Art is subjective" is disapproved by the simple fact that me "wo has never picked up a guitar" am not as good a guitarist as Carlos Santana.
If it was all subjective there would be no room for improvement.
>but you definitely need a dose of reality if you think your nephew's painting is just as valid artistically as Caravaggio.
You need to actually explain how art is objectively measured for quality instead of hoping this shitty analogy will do all the heavy lifting for you
I guess beauty can't be objectively measured so I'm just as handsome as Alain Delon. How I would love to live in your fantasy world.
Hold on let me bring out my beautyometer!
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And why can't you understand that your claim "Art is subjective" is disapproved by the simple fact that me "wo has never picked up a guitar" am not as good a guitarist as Carlos Santana.
You understand you can't say X is objectively better than Y unless you have something to measure it against, right? And you still haven't told me how you measure this, just a million different analogies about how thing A is objectively better than thing B (and no you won't elaborate)
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
So I can't say Alain Delon is objectively more handsome than me?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can but you'd be wrong. You can say anyone is 'subjectively' more attractive than anyone else and be completely right. How are you still not grasping this?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bro. You are literally everything wrong with society . are you a liberal? because this the type of mental illness that justifies troonyism
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>that justifies troonyism
moron. Sexual dimorphism is provable and measurable. To compare the objectivity of art to Marxist gender theory is the kinda of moronic shit I would expect.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>argument from pigheadedness again
I win.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
As an outsider, posting like that makes me side with the other guy and think you're a fool who lost whatever terrible argument you were trying to make.
You should realize that your behavior dictates how you are perceived. If you want to "win arguments", at any rate. Because otherwise you're just announcing that you don't have one.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thanks for chiming in with you homosexual sidebar. >You should realize that your behavior
You should realize that these gay little interjections just make you look like a sperg
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wonder if you're even capable of realizing you're acting like an NPC. I wonder if some part of you looks in the mirror and thinks "I'm not a person, I'm just a set of low-effort pre-programmed reactions"
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay now you're clearly the guy from
>argument from pigheadedness again
I win.
lmao
Come on now...
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
What about his response makes him an "NPC"?
Do you even know what that term means?
Do you know why it's used as an insult, or only THAT it is used as an insult.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Because otherwise you're just announcing that you don't have one.
Yes I should've just intelligently debated his unilateral declaration of "victory" and gay little reaction gif. For fricks sake you're one moronic Black person.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Heard that one before. People only use it once I've utterly demolished them.
Thanks for chiming in with you homosexual sidebar. >You should realize that your behavior
You should realize that these gay little interjections just make you look like a sperg
He's right and you're an NPC
You've got nothing. It's over.
I win.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>declare victory >desperately try to get the last word in >refuse to elaborate or engage in the actual topic of debate
Whatever works for you, anon.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
more like >establish my point >refute your fallacies >you continue to cry
Which you are doing right now.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>art has to be assessed through a framework of Christcuck babble and inspire "goodness"
You just have a /misc/brained tradcuck perception of what art is. That explains the entire disconnect.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>muh pol
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
If it types like a duck and seethes like a duck...
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If it types like a duck and seethes like a duck...
so pic related is you?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Very few human endeavors if any are actually subjective. Whenever people start to do anything some people are going to be objectively better at it than others.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the complexity of the pieces they can play and their creativity
Complex ≠ inherently good, and is a classic midwit take. Also, how do you measure or quantify 'creativity' objectively?
>they can feel it
Yeah I'm sorry but intuition isn't a reliable predictor of "objectively good" art, and it just makes you look like a fart sniffing gay.
>You don't need to put a mathematical model
Your arguments don't seem more intelligent because you keep bringing up math you absolute spaz
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're the autist here. Well shoot, just grab a guitar anon and start shredding you'll be the next Carlos Santana.
No genuinely. Why are you being an autist? You can't objectively measure the quality of food so the oversalted omlette I cooked might as well be as good as 5 star meal by Ramsay.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Well shoot, just grab a guitar anon and start shredding you'll be the next Carlos Santana.
Want to try another fallacious analogy while dodging the salient question? Maybe try using a food analogy this time.
>You can't objectively measure the quality of food so the oversalted omlette I cooked might as well be as good as 5 star meal by Ramsay.
Congrats on figuring out food tastes are subjective as well, and eating rotting herring might only be delicious if you're a Norwegian.
Once again, you haven't explained how you measure quality or creativity. Just that you can vaguely "sense it" or that it's related to "complexity" (lmao)
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's entropy. very low entropy carries little information, but so does very high entropy. information is highest somewhere in-between.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You measure artistic quality with "entropy"? You're veering far into the realm of desperate schizobabble now.
You can just admit that you were wrong instead of digging in your heels jsyk
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Well shoot, just grab a guitar anon and start shredding you'll be the next Carlos Santana.
Want to try another fallacious analogy while dodging the salient question? Maybe try using a food analogy this time.
>You can't objectively measure the quality of food so the oversalted omlette I cooked might as well be as good as 5 star meal by Ramsay.
Congrats on figuring out food tastes are subjective as well, and eating rotting herring might only be delicious if you're a Norwegian.
Once again, you haven't explained how you measure quality or creativity. Just that you can vaguely "sense it" or that it's related to "complexity" (lmao)
You measure artistic quality with "entropy"? You're veering far into the realm of desperate schizobabble now.
You can just admit that you were wrong instead of digging in your heels jsyk
Schizobabble aside,
Art is objective in the big picture, but subjective on the extreme.
You have clusters of talent. Obviously my student film is not as good as Kubrick but when you get to the level of Kubrick and people who are as venerated and accomplished as him like Kurosawa, it becomes a matter of taste.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You just want to feel validated in your media tastes by some sort of the authority. Maybe just unapologetically enjoy the things you like instead of pining for the approval of 'experts' who will confirm your tastes as intelligent, sophisticated, or of high quality.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nah, I like what I like. One of my favorite films of all time is Kung Fu Hustle.
I don't need no validation. but you definitely need a dose of reality if you think your nephew's painting is just as valid artistically as Caravaggio.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Forget this guy, he has no actual idea what he's talking about. He's here for (You)s and to play the easiest position, the stubborn contrarian.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but you definitely need a dose of reality if you think your nephew's painting is just as valid artistically as Caravaggio.
You need to actually explain how art is objectively measured for quality instead of hoping this shitty analogy will do all the heavy lifting for you
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes this is objectively true
You just want to feel validated in your media tastes by some sort of the authority. Maybe just unapologetically enjoy the things you like instead of pining for the approval of 'experts' who will confirm your tastes as intelligent, sophisticated, or of high quality.
>Printing press is a meme. I won’t ever be paying a cent for anything that has printing press generated content. I’ve been lobbying for it to be required to disclosure use of printing press in books.
>B-bbbbut I am totally an auteur genius just waiting for my chance!!!! The only reason my genius has not been recognize is because I don't have the resources to make art!!! prompting it totally an artform you Luddite bigot!
I am not even an artist. I don't have an artistic bone in my body but I recognize people that are far more talented than me, AI won't make me as talented as them.
It's obviously you're the one with insecurities, lol, work on yourself.
You want to know the truth? The REAL FRICKING TRUTH? I'll tell it plebs like you right now:
Draw a Venn diagram. Label the three circles: >-AI is a game-changing technology that will revolutionize artistic expression >-AI is a disaster in the making that will cause untold chaos both economic and politically >-AI is an irrelevant masturbatory toy that doesn't really matter for anything
Now make them all overlap because they're all EQUALLY TRUE.
This is why Cinema and music has been declining for the last 40 years. A lot of idiots that think they can just use tool to simplify their laboura and just make a movie.
Not realizing the degree of intelligence, though, labour, character and life experience required to craft something soulful.
If you are using A.I and C.G you’ve already lost. None of you will ever make something a fraction as good as Kubrick.
Kubrick is the goat. And all modern artists are failures. The canons of music and cinema have been written and there’s nothing new to add.
Even of there was, millienials and zoomers are idiot loosers and not up to the job, they are so out of touch with reality and the human condition, they will never make anything with soul.
Idiot, low I.Q, subhuman. You probably think videogames are art and the interactive “meduim”.
If you’re clampring for a FILM that’s persoanl to you, how about you understand and respect the great classics of cinema
first?
It’s subhuman philistines like you that are ruining the culture.
The democratisation of things like film making and music via AI tools is a very very bad thing. Most people are morons who should not be able to pollute the public space with their moronation slop
Lol projscting failure says what? It's just the opposite, moron. People had to increasingly compromise so much in their vision and it being divided to a thousand different people at astronomical cost with the end results increasingly becoming bloated soulless messes. AI will allow people to bring their vision to life with no compromise. You're living in the past, and the past is where it is. Trying to impose old values and ethos from 25, 30, 40, 50 years ago is an exercise on self-frustration and futility. Perhaps you simply have nothing to say and no vision to create. You lost your job as a key grip, didn't you? Sorry your gravy train got knocked off the tracks. Learn to understand and edit AI code.
>People had to increasingly compromise so much in their vision and it being divided to a thousand different people at astronomical cost with the end results increasingly becoming bloated soulless messes
Kubrick and many other greats had to go through this a 1000x fold and they mog all the new artists.
New easier access, and convenient tools didn't improve filmmaking as an artform, it didn't improve music. Why do you think AI will?
Art cannot be obsessed objectively, so it's moronic to demand that someone describe how art has "improved" >it can though
No. You're just a culture war ideologue.
1) Stop sucking Kubrick's dick, first off. Guy was great with visuals but his characters were dogshit and his movies unlikeable pretension. 2) AI music is like a year old. It's been growing exponentially. But the topic isn't about AI music, is it? I agree, as a musician, that I'd rather real people make music, mostly because it's an interpretation of a subjective perspective interpreted though music and the physical reality of a biological being living, experiencing, and interpreting that through instruments, lyrics, and vocals is the art form. Why AI for the visual medium is different is because I can record an entire album by myself on a 4-track but I cannot make a movie by myself, until AI can replace the hundred other technical jobs to make it a reality. Also, AI music is creating it itself, while AI photos and potential video interprets the user's specific descriptions. In other words, the creative part of AI is utilizing it as a technical tool. If I needed four people to be continually tuning my guitar, adjusting the lighting, moving the microphone, and directing me to retry each note over and over until it's perfect, I would hail AI music the way I do the potential of AI for film production. Do you get what I'm saying?
Because greedy companies would rather produce soulless garbage if it means to cut costs.
AI is a meme. I won’t ever be paying a cent for anything that has AI generated content. I’ve been lobbying for it to be required to disclosure use of AI in film.
Yeah, yeah we get it. You saw some pop-sci video about the singularity and exponential growth and you think you know it all.
AI is just the same flavor of scam as SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink (idiots like you probably think this is cyberpunk, lol) and whatever garbage the oil snake Elon is selling.
I am not a Luddite, I am just actually educated about technology unlike you.
40 years maybe a stretch, but the last 20 years of music and films have been pretty dry despite all the new accessibility not saying nothing good came out but accessibility did not multiply exponentially the amount of good works
I look at some of my favorite films from 20+ years ago, Electric Dragon 80k, Ichi the Killer and filmmakers in the old industries had no problem making the most batshit insane things that put today's kids to shame.
I am absolutely convinced that people like you will willingly let themselves be passed over. You are all the same, creating imaginary roadblocks through projection. I don’t even use AI tools beyond simple problem solving, but the most unbearable people are your kind. The ultimate fricking losers. You don’t have an ounce of soul or energy to create something. You can’t even be bothered to use AI tools to make something just for fun. Instead, you’re a pathetic little worm, a gatekeeper fiercely guarding subjects you don’t even engage with. The worst kind of individual.
You complain endlessly about “slop this, slop that”, while creative people will continue to pursue innovation and find new ways to bring ideas to life. You, on the other hand, will continue to rot, forever festering and seething about something as trivial and pathetic as AI tools.
Your ability to consume media is probably a hundred times what it was twenty years ago. You lot consume media nonstop, always watching shit, unable to help yourselves. You expose yourselves to garbage and then get mad when you see it. Reality check, moron. You’re addicted to this shit, and you’re annoyed you’ll have to ‘sift’ through garbage to find gems? Lmao. Think about that for a moment. You lot are fricking losers, right down to the bone.
I don't care. Just show me that you actually care about culture, art, cinema, music, technology and science before making passionate claims about one or all of them.
Remember if you're upset about the endless slop of the last 10 years, forced diversity in Hollywood, reboots, remakes, and the general lack of creativity in every field that humanity is facing.
Stop whining!!!! >You complain endlessly about “slop this, slop that”, while creative people will continue to pursue innovation and find new ways to bring ideas to life. You, on the other hand, will continue to rot, forever festering and seething
You are seething simply because you're not creative! Madamme Webb is garbage!!!! how dare you!!!! let's see you do better!!
Never said that. All I’m saying is you homosexuals hate new media and now that people might be able to pull off their own cinema in the future, it’s icky and stinky…because..it’s easy????? Frick off.
I HATE AI IMAGES THE SUBTLE WRONGNESS OF EVERY FRICKING DETAIL BREAKS MY MIND THE MORE YOU LOOK THE WORSE IT GETS IT'S LITERALLY DISTURBING TO THE BRAIN
>mid-journey
Naaaaah brother you need to run your own local AI with its own LORA models. That’s how you make anything you want, but you are limited to the models you have it working on, and blending models together can break your images continuity. It’s all alpha stage imo, until we can have something that gets 4 picture right out of 4 generated
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Name your 10 favorite films right now. Low I.Q bugman. You have no exposure to or understanding of art.
to you it's all the same, you might as well be consuming tik-tok shorts, it's all just a blend of images to your undeveloped brain.
actually good picks. surprised someone with a modicum of taste would entertain AI slop.
watch more films hopefully it will cure you but good taste nontheless. I mean thind redline is extremely soulful though I prefer Malick's Days of Heaven.tyd8n
What do you think of AI generated music, it's already making full fledged tracks? how do you think AI films are gonna pan any differently?
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Anyone can make music, doesn’t mean it’s good music. Same with movies.
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Has AI generated music (now that's it's fully fledged) added anything to the music industry that's been stagnating for 20 years now?
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>fully fledged
Imagine thinking this. We haven't even touched the surface of what AI is capable of
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Has AI generated music added nothing of value to music as of now? How do you see it becoming better?
Hard mode: Don't say in ways we can't even imagine, think for yourself.
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>How do you see it becoming better
Eventually have the ability to generate an original song thats completely to your liking. That goes for any artistic medium as well. >that won't mean it's good
No, but just because a song is written by a bunch of israelites working for Interscope and sold to the highest bidder won't mean it's good either. Quality is independent of the "human element"
Most independent filmmakers will have little use for AI, barring a few experimental artists in the vein of Packard or Korine. "Content Creators" on the other hand will flood the internet with the most disposable nothings you've ever seen. It is amusing though, seeing so many AI-bros unaware that they are becoming the next generation of consumers without even realizing it.
A saddened, but generous Turkish man adopts a magical cat. Times are tough, but the magical cat has options and in gratitude, the magical cat undergoes combat trials and slowly grows a cat army. These cats act as a information network at first then a peacekeeper army (tripping enemies on stairs, pushing flowerpots onto the heads of corrupt police, helping old grannies pay their bills and stealing food to help the poorest of poor).
Eventually the helpful man begins to get ahead in life and is a figurehead backed by a secret army of felines whom also desire a safer saner city free of strife for the cat population and the human population. The man himself can make suggestions for improvement of the lives of the people to the cat leader, but isn't in any true level of control except in the affairs of humans.
The piles of glowing cat eyes in shadows depicts what happens to the worst enemies of the feline-human alliance and the bignose Hebrew problem causers. There will be terrifying chases where the mustache man has zero feline backup at first, but as the human-cat alliance begins his evasions from corrupt legal entities gets easier as random cats treat this man as a protected entity and intervene slyly against his pursuers.
This is my best guess on plot according to STUDIO GHIBLI plot layouts and what would make a classical story with moments of obscene implied violence against those whom deserve obscene implied violence.
The quiet underlying sadness and loss of STUDIO GHIBLI films would be yours to fill in, but you could probably hit the human religion angles that cats do not adhere to except for the snack factor on celebration days (yummy food) with cats seeing only the decoration fun and food angles whereas the SMUGGY FACTOR of religion is mocked for causing ill behavior that disfavors cats and humans. You can also toss in Djinns and ghosts of past owners as the supernatural aspect.
Cats 1 >Human-focused story with cat elements. Cats do not talk but have above average intelligence and provide minor assistance to the protagonist, as well as help him find some vital clues
Cats 2 >Focus group wants more cats. Introduce black cat and make story entirely from his perspective. He still can't talk but interacts and functions with pseudo-human intelligence at times. Human protagonist from first movie is more bumbling and comic relief but falls in love with female companion.
Cats 3 >Focus group says even more cats. Humans don't factor into the plot besides being props for a few jokes. Black cat talks now, all cats talk. Street cat adventure through Athens with frequent humorous allusions and references to popular greek myths and stories
Cats 4 >Different animation studio. Celebrated for its absolutely kickass soundtrack and a few internet memes born from a few stills. Youtubers point out how weird and uncanny it is because the hyperrealistic black cat has a human-like romance with one of the hyperrealistic egyptian cats and it portrays it like she's attractive.
Cats 5 >Return to the old studio. Celebrated for its off-beat and more mature writing, and a minor box office bomb. Frequently posted in "Kino that made you cry" threads on Cinemaphile.
Cats 6 >Ultra-slop beloved by nineties kids and hated by zoomers. Original creators only provided oversight. New voice actors.
>if these were real movies they would probably just be slop with boring pacing.
isn't that just up to whoever is using the AI to fix? kinda like how it's up to directors to make those calls in film.
Hey look on the bright side. I am sure not caring about art and human talent will not have any consequences, we will keep getting people like Miyazaki and studio Ghibli.
Isn't AI great? who cares about human touch and human talent.
Apparently the Cats of Istanbul heavily inspired the 2016 documentary "Kedi" >“Kedi” (2016): this documentary film beautifully captures the lives of street cats in Istanbul. Directed by Ceyda Torun, “Kedi” showcases the city’s thousands of street cats, their interactions with people, and the unique bond they share. The film features interviews with locals who care for these cats, revealing their individual stories and personalities
I want to be able to put short stories and novels into an A.I. generator and see its interpretation and can't fricking wait to see the results!!!FACT!!!
Nobody likes AI generated "art". Nobody wants it. It hasn't made any memes, nobody shares it with their friends, many people are actually repulsed by it. >but just wait, it'll-
No. This isn't a technical limitation. The technology has improved dramatically already, yet still there is something fundamentally boring and soulless about everything it generates. You can't deny this and I see no reason it will change.
The real redpill is that art and culture have been stagnating for the last 20 years.
That's why society is clinging very hard to the cultural icons of the 80s and 90s.
AI is just the final nail in the coffin. AI isn't the problem , it's the symptom.
>the AI-jeets saying that they will somehow take jobs away from LA whites as if AI wouldn't replace them also >the other AI-jeets trying to fit in by saying "hollywood bad" >the pro-AI posters larping about "being creative" or "ahead of the curve" as if any of them are smart or creative enough to make a good movie out of an image de-randomizer >the larpers making shitty posters and talking about them as if they came out "in the good ol days back in the 80s bro (when I was totally alive)" because no one can manage to make a full-length AI-movie within those parameters
these threads are like honeypots for the most pathetic kind of people
"muh AI" (image/text algorithms) will go the way of the NFT
actually useful "AI" (face recognition or espionage technology) will never be legally accessible
OpenAi, and maybe a few others, will try to limit how much text to video kinos you can pump out, so maybe a minute per person a day. So we will have to have a collective, a commonality of like minded individuals each working concurrently to produce a short video.
Hopefully Grōk will achieve chatgpt levels of productivity within a year or two.
They are seething. Grōk, for around $11 monthly allows chatgpt4 levels of productivity. Within a year or two, and once Grōk achieves chatgpt5 levels of creativity, Musk will charge a few dollars more, maybe around 29.99 monthly, but you'll probably be able to achieve 4 to 5 minutes a day of kinos! If done collectively with other Anons Hollywood is dead!
>They are seething. Grōk, for around $11 monthly allows chatgpt4 levels of productivity. Within a year or two, and once Grōk achieves chatgpt5 levels of creativity, Musk will charge a few dollars more, maybe around 29.99 monthly, but you'll probably be able to achieve 4 to 5 minutes a day of kinos! If done collectively with other Anons Hollywood is dead!
>Everyone and everything is shitty! Only my lukewarm, middle of the road nihilism and a bloo bloo I want the past to happen again because everything and everyone sucks! >No, I offer no solutions or alternatives. Uhh, 1001 movies to see before you die! Kubrick! There. Did that do anything?
Photography killed the Realist movement in painting… but gave birth to Impressionism, Surrealism et al.
Seems like AI tools will be a win/win in the long run.
AI won't add anything to art. AI music is already fully fledged and has added 0 value to music. You're a midwit.
AI is worthless and we are only having such conversation about it because we live in a society of idiots.
Everything is electronically modified and edited in post production using high end software. I’m sure Black folk were saying exactly what you said to. AI will be huge for pitch correction and auto tune without robotic transitions. It’s over.
We already had people that could sing on perfect pitch maybe you should've been paying to attention to actual art, instead of incompetent slop where a machine might be an improvement.
The people who actually care about music will tell you that AI has added 0 value to music.
>The people who actually care about music will tell you that AI has added 0 value to music
This is called "appeal to authority" and is a favorite logical fallacy of progressive gays
lol bro just get over yourself. I can’t wait for a literal basement dwelling Indian to produce something that gets enough attention you have to make threads about it
How do you actually judge whether it's added '0 value' to something anyway?
AI music has come a long way and it's made many people happy, sad, laugh, etc, it has provided the main thing which art was uniquely powerful in providing. Yet you'll continue to say it offers no value because it doesn't have a 'soul' or whatever religious terminology to hide behind
When AI advances beyond human capabilities for art, I wonder if you'll admit to people what you used to think
Simplest way to do this is to film everything using yourself if you have to then using that as controlnet.
Or you can cut scenes and animations from other works and do the same.
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Notice how it keeps repeating phrases like “value to music”. I’d guess it was a NovelAI character but he might have his own local one running
Can't make anything yet, but soon enough. I'll be making a kino loose adaptation of The Odyssey starring Klaus Kinski and in the style of Werner Herzog.
When did this become a valid argument?
How do you quantify that? What makes something "soulless" or not, specifically? You can always tell the difference? Lol, no you can't. And if you'd actully put your money where your mouth is we could prove how full of shit you are by testing it.
It's literally just a re-worded statement of your opinion. "Soulless" just means "I don't like it" (and specifically based on you knowing its origins, not what it actually looks like). It's a completely worthless "argument".
The irony is that the vast majority of homosexuals using this non-argument literally don't even believe that "souls" exist.
I was almost going to type out a serious reasoned reply and then I realized replying to a dipshit that willingly saves and posts söyjaks is every bit as sensible as arguing with chatgpt.
If you want to be treated like a human being, type like a human being. I'm not going to waste time when you're more buzzword than man; this does nothing to lend credibility to your side of a debate.
Which parts were "buzzwords"?
Do you know what a "buzzword" is?
You know it takes more than just saying "LE BUZZWORD!" and declaring victory to win an argument, right?
Speaking of which i'm still waiting for you to actually articulate why & how >BUT IT'S LE SOOOOOOOUUUUUUULLLESSSSSS!!!
is a tenable, valid argument and nor just a meaningless statement of personal opinion.
You CLAIMED you could do it. Still waiting.
>he's already to the point of all-caps greentexting
lmao an AI wouldn't break this easily
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>STILL no actual argument
Look, if you don't have one there's no shame in admitting it. But you need to quit doubling-down like this. It's not saving face; it's making you look worse.
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I'll be honest, I didn't really read your post and just noticed the >ALL-CAPS GREEEEEENTEEEEEXXXXXXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but now I see that we are in agreement about AI becoming more important to creating images and videos in the days to come.
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I accept your concession.
"IT IS LE SOULLESS!!!" is a stupid & meaningless argument, like all histrionic anti-AI arguments.
What are you talking about AI is nothing but reddit. Its the kind of transhumanist technology shit they love to go gaga for. "Oh my gosh Elon Musk!!! Oh my gosh VR!!! Oh my gosh AI!!!. The final stage of consuming is consuming ai generated shit.
>OMG have you seen "Motor-Vehicles"??? What a Reddit" technology! *guffaw*
Are you fricking stupid?
AI is a MASSIVE umbrella of technology with incredible potential behind it. And you just dismiss the entire thing as "Reddit"? Holy shit you people are living caricatures.
AI was a super exciting toy for a while and I proompted literally thousands of images and then I got completely tired of it and find it a pointless hollow pursuit. >b-but when it can do kinos....
Doubt. Nothing it creates has any lasting impact because you know from the outset that not only is it arbitrary but that it can be generated and regenerated infinite times with no conceivable way to discriminate as to what the idealized result "should" be. We're not prepared to deal with this, it literally runs counter to how we perceive objective reality. You're not going to create a Blade Runner (1982) with AI. You're going to create 500 different randomized jumbled dicerolls of films that have all those same elements but none of which have any impact or way to establish an emotional connection to anyone perceiving them because there is no emotional investment made in their creation. It's a toy of the idle.
Tick Tock, HollyShat! I remember them, those of the tribe, claiming that users of bitcoin would never engage in group mining so there was nothing to worry about!
Your time of incident is bearing, HollyShat!
Try again, HollyShat! It must frighten you realizing the good times for you and yours, frivolously wasting of investors money, is at an end! Kinos, those free of the message and other such woke ideologies, is in the hands of the so called plebbians.
>You're not going to create a Blade Runner (1982) with AI. You're going to create 500 different randomized jumbled dicerolls of films that have all those same elements
I'm currently using an AI with inpainting to create dozens of character models all in an identical art style. I didn't even need to make a lora for it. I just had to make one character model and then the AI copies that style for the next character. A year ago this would have been impossible and now it does it almost flawlessly every time.
I have the idea. The tools aren't here yet. But I think some sort of "enhanced storyboard" (more or less a Visual Novel) is doable. When I am done with my VN (traditional VN) I will probably attempt to develop the concept probably next year. In the meantime there's time for better open models to arrive.
Anyone who sees conversations like these inspire nothing but absolute tribal bickering and complete inability to connect on any sort of rational wavelength for even the tiniest subtopic, with each side insisting solely on the religious truth of its own viewpoint for a complex multifaceted issue of which no one here can dare feasibly claim anything approaching understanding the totality, and doesn't immediately take ten steps back and try to look at the larger picture, is unlikely to ever escape intellectual serfdom.
It's true though. You surely don't deny that the beliefs express here are all entirely religious in nature. Or, at the risk of using the more loaded term, culty, because a religion is generally a belief system that is allowed to be said to have established some amount of cultural credibility for itself.
In what possible way did you arrive to that conclusion?
Repeat that question for each part of your post, as they're two completely separate yet equally bizarre statements.
It might astound you to realize that simply using the word "religion" in a sentence is not the same as criticizing religion as an actuality, and describing an idea as religious is making a very specific rhetorical statement.
So far it seems A.I has been pretty sucessful at impressing the uncultured laymen, the philistines, the anime fans…etc. But when does it start making actually good stuff? When does it make music so good, so innovative, that we have to classify it with the likes of Bjork and Pink Floyd? When does it make novels or even short stories with such thematic depth and elegant prose that we put it next to the likes of Dostoevsky and Cormac Mccarthy? Will A.I ever be capable of originality or will it always be doomed to the role of the cheap imitator? Countless people have existed throughout history that could make near perfect forgeries of the works of the masters but most of their names were forgotten to history because they had no originality.
"Definition of a strawman: a misrepresentation of an opponent's argument or position". Are you sure you know what it is. Don't act smart if your going to be dumb.
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The post you responded to was not an example of a "Strawman".
Exactly my point. Snooty little moron. That's what I was responding to dumbass.
So far it seems A.I has been pretty sucessful at impressing the uncultured laymen, the philistines, the anime fans…etc. But when does it start making actually good stuff? When does it make music so good, so innovative, that we have to classify it with the likes of Bjork and Pink Floyd? When does it make novels or even short stories with such thematic depth and elegant prose that we put it next to the likes of Dostoevsky and Cormac Mccarthy? Will A.I ever be capable of originality or will it always be doomed to the role of the cheap imitator? Countless people have existed throughout history that could make near perfect forgeries of the works of the masters but most of their names were forgotten to history because they had no originality.
>When does it make music so good >When does it make novels or even short stories >Will A.I ever be capable of originality
Why are you inserting yourself into the conversation if your not following it lol moron.
As a toy, it's created images of characters I've had in my head for years that please me greatly because I chose a career path other than 2D artist and AI exceeds my level of competence for rendering those characters into images, though no without a significant number of elements outside my control. Nonetheless it's been both entertaining and potentially useful should I decide to use some of those generated concepts to then hire a human artist to reproduce them consistently for some project.
I would say storyboarding and conceptualization are probably its greatest strengths, and proper leveraging of generated content into human-constructed art will be the way going forward, essentially replacing outside research and reference material gathering stages of creation. Which is not without its potential problems, which should be self-evident. The steady decline of both American and Japanese animation industries is testament to that, as cultured, worldly creators accustomed to injecting their wide arrays of life experience into their work are progressively replaced with young people who simply want to recreate the cartoons they grew up watching and have no inspiration beyond it.
I love when an anon gets stung by a single phrase so bad he lashes out and starts spamming it constantly try and "get back" at his invisible aggressor lmao
>posting the same pics that were generated more than year ago
not doing good, it seems
SD3 when?
>le ethical censored AI model
It'll be shit. SDXL and PonyXL are all you need
Not getting the most aesthetic results out of Pony. Any tips?
PonyXL is for cartoon porn mostly and understands anatomy amazingly, it's not great for realism but there are a few realism merges picrel was made with EverClearPNY but a good 1.5 or SDXL model will blow it away for SFW realism
SDXL for comparison
That's just Pirates of the Carribean.
That was the intent
SDXL was pretty useless until Pony came out, so I'm sure they can the smut back in to SD3.
I'm still using plain ol' SD1.5.
What AI is this
waitin on them TOOLS homie
AI is slop, never cinema
>AI is slop,
you have no idea what i'm cooking
prop for the lads, I hope
Unironically less slop than the last 10 years of film.
>AI generated images less slop than full fledge cinematic productions.
That doesn't even make sense. Like I get it that on modern tv and cinema hasn't been good for a decade but saying uninspired AI generated prompts are somehow less slop is moronic. Both are slop but one is even more soulless.
AI is a meme. I won’t ever be paying a cent for anything that has AI generated content. I’ve been lobbying for it to be required to disclosure use of AI in film.
What a powerful lobbyist you are, homosexual.
if it's so bad why do you need it to be disclosed? shouldn't it be obvious?
Because greedy companies would rather produce soulless garbage if it means to cut costs.
bot answer, addressed neither question
It's not a bit, it's some talentless tv writer who's been crying in the writer's strike thread about how the studios won't pay him what he's worth (which is in actuality nothing)
Was that the same thread that literally devolved into the Writer Strike-Supporters admitting they were commies and squealing about how they dreamed of killing every non-communist in existence?
You didn't answer the question.
If it's "soulless slop", can't you tell that by looking at it? If that's the case you don't need it disclosed to you, let alone a legal requirement for filmmakers to do so.
Or are you admitting you CAN'T, in fact, tell the difference?
>Mentioned in a single line in the credits
>No one cares
An AI movie has the potential to become the brain child of the viewer.
I'll take that over the vision of some San Fran homosexual.
Idiot, low I.Q, subhuman. You probably think videogames are art and the interactive “meduim”.
If you’re clampring for a FILM that’s persoanl to you, how about you understand and respect the great classics of cinema
first?
It’s subhuman philistines like you that are ruining the culture.
You type like a clown. Also I do appreciate classic cinema. If you did you wouldn't be whiteknighting the shit that's come out the last 10 years. Turns out quotas, DEI outsourced casting and writers rooms have killed cinema and creativity. At this point I'd rather watch things from 10-15 years ago and play around with an AI movie maker programme for my own enjoyment.
> Turns out quotas, DEI outsourced casting and writers rooms have killed cinema and creativity.
And you think AI is better? You think AI can fix this? Movies are still too far out in the future but you have you looked at generated music?
You think subhuman philistines playing around with trash like that because they go monkey brain over the novelty and are too stupid to appreciate the greatness we had in the past are gonna fix music?
It’s less stinky dirt compared to the new Hollywood dirt but it’s dirt nontheless, utterly worthless and if you give stinky dirt the time of day, it makes me think you don’t understand the truly valuable things in life and you are part of the problem.
Why are anti AI people like you so hysterical? Nothing is going away or being taken away just a lot of people have fallen out of love with media being made in the Netflix era. The people making these productions are also telling portions of their audience if they don't like it get fricked and watch something else. AI can put together a cool high definition image in seconds, maybe one day it could do the same for a movie based on some prompts, that wouldn't be cool to you no?
I wouldn't care what they are making because I wouldn't be watching it anyway. But if not a non cucked version of the same AI tools were available to the public I would rather use my own prompts than some talentless woke students who have taken over all media productions. Let them make their shit I don't care.
> AI can put together a cool high definition image in seconds, maybe one day it could do the same for a movie based on some prompts, that wouldn't be cool to you no?
Did you not read what I told you about music?
It’s gonna play out the same way. Just a ton of AI generated trash thrown into the wild. With no chance of a new human cultural or artistic movement rising again.
Because idiots like you are impressed with the novelty facotrs and are failing to recognize or articulate the causes of the decline across all creative efforts in the last 20 years
>and you think AI is better than some dumb Black person
yes i do, not hard to believe tbh
>And you think AI is better? You think AI can fix this?
Yes. Unironically, unequivocally, YES. Frick you.
Good bugman
You're the bug. And we're currently squashing you under the power of Pleb-powered entertainment.
You will live in the pod and consoom the AI slop.
I already live in my own house, homosexual-stain. Cope and seethe. Maybe you should've tried to make actual cinema instead of propagandist gay-slop. Reap what you sow.
Youre arguing with your own imagination anon
People like you that are hysterical over AI are typically on the side of the people supporting living in pods & eating bugs, gaygola.
what was his problem?
those women used AI
Name your 10 favorite films right now. Low I.Q bugman. You have no exposure to or understanding of art.
to you it's all the same, you might as well be consuming tik-tok shorts, it's all just a blend of images to your undeveloped brain.
Imagine looking at the absolute slop that is AI generated music and thinking yep, AI is gonna solve the problem of art, kino on demand is here boys.
This is even ignoring the problem of compute, generating 1hour+ consistent films may be impossible both algorithmically and considering resources but I don't want to crush the bugmen dreams.
These bugmen are so low I.Q, they are impressed by GPT-4 and thought OpenAI latest video was OMG LE EPIC HER MOMENT!!! These bugmen are so low I.Q they are capable of having deep conversations with chatbots.
>AI can't do hands
It still can't apparently
>grug based and redstoned becuase grug no impressed by fire
Yep grug actually intelligent and has some knowledge about both culture and technology.
You're an idiot low I.Q pop-sci let Kutzgestat tell me what to think, 0 worth ever came out your moth type idiot.
You don't eve like films. to you it's all might be some tik-tok shorts.
Rock do ALL thing. Fire only do one thing. Dumb cave bug.
Without looking it up. Who is Edward Witten?
>but you have you looked at generated music?
I made a song about boobies. It was awesome.
>And you think AI is better?
Yes.
>You think AI can fix this?
Yes.
You're a fricking moron, yeah there will be plenty of shit, but also all-new kinos made by individuals basically for free that could not otherwise be made
No. No kino will be made, people who think otherwise have no reference to what kino actually is.
AI has added 0 value to music. What makes you think it's gonna add value to film?
Are you moronic? You can generate shots without shooting anything. It won't be "AI, make me a movie" for a long time, nor would it be producing quality stuff for a long time, but one autist can write and then generate a whole movie shot by shot.
You mean like Stoyboards?
But it will look like real footage and move? So no
This is what I want to do I call it an "AI enhanced storyboard". I will use Renpy: it will have music and sounds, Maybe even voices.
When the tools to make a movie are available it will be as easy as feeding the whole thing to the AI to get a feature movie out.
soulless
>No. No kino will be made
OK, thanks for your worthless "prediction", grandpa.
>If you did you wouldn't be whiteknighting the shit that's come out the last 10 years.
>He actually thinks what spawns AI will be worth more than garbage.
You are white knighting the same people, since of course they would use the same soulless tools to produce eve more quantity for less quality.
you’re a israeli moron
People used to talk about cinema the way you talk about videogames, kek.
>As a Dinosaur myself, I'm lobbying hard against the asteroid
Luddite homosexuals like you are delusional. A century ago you would be rioting like an ape in the streets of London to protest the use of mechanical threshing machines.
Ignorant gays like you fell for Bitcoin, Theranos, Teslas, buy the latest iPhone every year and have fell for a 100 different technology scams because they are idiots who are told what LE NEXT BIG THINS is and can't think for themselves.
Without looking it up tell me who Edward Witten is.
>Edward Witten
>Early Life
No wonder you told anon not to look him up
This is all you can think of. You have no exposure to art, culture technology or science beyond le epic /misc/ memes (I am genuinely racist natsoc btw but that's besides the point) and whatever 10 second clips about LE EPIC FUTURE you come across on tiktok.
And YET you feel so confident talking about all these things. Who raised you and why did they do such a terrible job?
To lump self-evolving AI in with Teslas and Bitcoins only further shows your misunderstanding. You seen to think it's just some flavor-of-the-month novelty and not an enormously disruptive force. You're probably just another homosexual with a DeviantArt account who's worried about losing their furry clientele.
Yeah, yeah we get it. You saw some pop-sci video about the singularity and exponential growth and you think you know it all.
AI is just the same flavor of scam as SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink (idiots like you probably think this is cyberpunk, lol) and whatever garbage the oil snake Elon is selling.
I am not a Luddite, I am just actually educated about technology unlike you.
>I am not a Luddite, I am just actually educated about technology unlike you.
You're seething about revolutionary new tech and feel threatened by it. You're a Luddite and an asshurt moron. But you could try name-dropping another mathematician if you think that makes you seem like less of a pseud
Lagrange is my favorite actually. But I am not seething I am disappointed, disappointed that people are falling for this trash, the next venture capitalist pump and dump.
and they feel confident talking about art, culture and technology the know nothing about. Do yourself a favor, before you cum your pants about AI revolutionizing an industry you know nothing about or care for, try actually educating yourself about said Industry.
Try watching some Wang Kar Wai, Ozu films but given your bugman status, I am afraid you might not appreciate them.
>Lagrange is my favorite actually.
>try actually educating yourself about said Industry.
>Try watching some Wang Kar Wai, Ozu films
>cope cope cope I want the past to come back because I can only see things based on old perspectives cope cope cope
not an argument. I am not seething. I am genuinely disappointed. This is for your own good, kid.
I don't mean to be obnoxious, You are probably depressed and that's why you're banking on the singularity/AI to change the status quo. It won't change the status quo of society, it won't change the status quo of art. Sorry no robotwaifus either.
But there's hope. Start actually caring about art and witness the greatness that humanity has achieved, in music, in film, in science.
Start by watching IMDB 250, then you can watch 1000 films to see before you die, and you will branch out from there to more obscure artists. Your life will improve for it.
It's obvious I'm talking to an underage pseud, especially given the undeserved smugness and need to have your intellect validated. Please go on about some more unrelated shit to demonstrate your intelligence and refined media taste.
Spoiler: he is an underage pseud. His singular film reference point is apparently Kubrick, the biggest pseud director of all time every pretentious teenager gets suckered into thinking is a genius. I would know, I was once young and insufferable myself.
I'm 33 you homosexual. Kubrick is the goat, all the great filmmakers and critics recognize this. What's your reference point to cinema the artform that you so passionately talk about and have high hopes of revolutionizing it?
Oh, so you're just a pseud. What a lame normie sensibility you have. Gotta expand those horizons, guy.
Do you're just an aspergers dude in his 30s then
You still haven't told me what your refrence point in film is? do me a favor, log in into letterboxd and show me what's the percentage
https://letterboxd.com/peterstanley/list/1001-movies-you-must-see-before-you-die/
This dude
posted his taste and he has soul and exposure to cinema, turns out he is not an AI gay.
>turns out he is not an AI gay.
Tell us about the AI gay. What does he believe?
I'm 42 you condescending jackass. Your predictably disparaging interpretation of me based on a post is not only wrong but telling about your own attitudes. You sound like a dumb kid. Top 250 of IMDB. What a dorky NPC. Better chance of making a movie now than ever, since it won't cost millions of dollars and hundreds of various buttholes that have to physically stick their nose in the actual creative vision. Anyway, you're dumb and punching way above your weight in this thread.
Easier access to filmmaking over the last 40 years didn't result in better films. Independent music and easier access to music than ever (you can now literally simulate an entire band on your laptop) didn't lead to better music.
Why you think it would be different with AI?
What the frick are you on about? The cinematic and musical output has been fantastic in the past 40 years. It only got shittier and shittier because the film and music industry stopped taking risks but non-mainstream music and film has continually been thriving as tech got better. You really hace no idea what you're talking about. Is this your dad's opinions or something you're regurgitating here? He sounds like an idiot. You are young and inexperienced (and obviously not particularly well-cultured).
Dall-E threads must frighten you shills; imagine Kino videos produced as easy! You're terrified AR the thought, Kino made as easily as Dall-E images! Go poop your pants, Hollyshat, your time is almost up!
*at the thought
40 years maybe a stretch, but the last 20 years of music and films have been pretty dry despite all the new accessibility not saying nothing good came out but accessibility did not multiply exponentially the amount of good works
I look at some of my favorite films from 20+ years ago, Electric Dragon 80k, Ichi the Killer and filmmakers in the old industries had no problem making the most batshit insane things that put today's kids to shame.
He's right and you're not using an actual artificial intelligence at all.
Art is objective and thinking that using AI isn't itself THE compromise is hilarious. All of AI is a compromise, it's a semi-random image generator lmfao
>Art is objective
You're just a moronic Black person then.
You don't have an argument against the objective assessment of art, got it.
Just acknowledge your error lol
Black person have you ever participated in any of the on-topic threads here? More than half are about differing interpretations of a film or show.
>moron thinks that contention is a proof for subjectivity
Yes, and I've seen this idiotic non-argument plenty of times; I've addressed it too.
>https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21144046/#21165722
Even your moronation isn't novel. That's how pathetic you are lmfao
My nephew's sketches are just as good as Caravaggio, frick you!
>Even your moronation isn't novel. That's how pathetic you are lmfao
I read that moronic screed and it's just a bunch of "nuh uh" posting, you have to actually say what makes art objective and how you measure and quantify those objective qualities.
>It doesn't count because it just doesn't okay
Way to understand the post you're replying to. By what metrics and criteria do you critically evaluate art in an objective way?
>still projecting this hard
lmfao
meant for
whoopsies
Just take it to the logical extreme.
>My nephew's sketches are just as good and artistically valid as Caravaggio, frick you!
Can you answer
instead of deflecting with your underage autism?
I am agreeing with you, moron. My nephew's sketches are just as good and artistically valid as Caravaggio.
It's all subjective, after all.
This sort of smarmy disingenuous behavior is very womanly jsyk. You're a massive pussy.
And worrying about criteria in complex systems is a midwit thing. A simple example is enough to prove that art is not subjective, some people are BETTER at it than others.
>And worrying about criteria in complex systems is a midwit thing.
This is the cope you're using for your post hoc rationalizations. You're such a moronic Black person you can't even remotely articulate your point
>art is not subjective, some people are BETTER at it than others.
How is this so hard to understand? you might not be acquainted with mathematics but the simplest proofs are the most elegant and profound.
How do you objectively quantify or measure the skill of an artist? Stay focused on the answer please.
By the complexity of the pieces they can play and their creativity. Skilled musicians will outright tell you "that guy has way more skill than I do".
they can feel it because they are on top of their game. You don't need to put a mathematical model on everything.
Beep boop. AI has added 0 value to music. Beep Boop
I uh also already addressed the point
>https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22230377/#22242527
It is, as with all things, evaluated according to its function.
Like I said, you didn't actually counter any of those points, just said "nuh uh", and espoused fallacies like "REAL art should do XYZ".
>evaluated according to its function.
Explain the function of art in your own words
>same fallacy of pigheadedness as before
and the strawman you invented isn't even fallacious or wrong?
Regardless, if you ACTUALLY read my post (you didn't) you'd find that I established the function of art in a prior thread, linked within said post.
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/190410913/#190418351
You must legitimately be very dumb, or maybe ESL.
You can't argue against these either.
Your entire position relies on, ironically, saying "nuh uh" "akshually that's subjective because it just is" or something to that effect.
Is this post you?
>erm I hope this post is you because then I would get to argue against some moron and not an established argument
Not even trying homosexual
Lol I was sincerely asking you sperg. Nobody ITT can sufficiently explain how to objectively assess the quality of art, they just deflect with esoteric babble, logical fallacies, and shitty analogies.
And why can't you understand that your claim "Art is subjective" is disapproved by the simple fact that me "wo has never picked up a guitar" am not as good a guitarist as Carlos Santana.
If it was all subjective there would be no room for improvement.
I guess beauty can't be objectively measured so I'm just as handsome as Alain Delon. How I would love to live in your fantasy world.
Hold on let me bring out my beautyometer!
>And why can't you understand that your claim "Art is subjective" is disapproved by the simple fact that me "wo has never picked up a guitar" am not as good a guitarist as Carlos Santana.
You understand you can't say X is objectively better than Y unless you have something to measure it against, right? And you still haven't told me how you measure this, just a million different analogies about how thing A is objectively better than thing B (and no you won't elaborate)
So I can't say Alain Delon is objectively more handsome than me?
You can but you'd be wrong. You can say anyone is 'subjectively' more attractive than anyone else and be completely right. How are you still not grasping this?
Bro. You are literally everything wrong with society . are you a liberal? because this the type of mental illness that justifies troonyism
>that justifies troonyism
moron. Sexual dimorphism is provable and measurable. To compare the objectivity of art to Marxist gender theory is the kinda of moronic shit I would expect.
>argument from pigheadedness again
I win.
I accept your concession
As an outsider, posting like that makes me side with the other guy and think you're a fool who lost whatever terrible argument you were trying to make.
You should realize that your behavior dictates how you are perceived. If you want to "win arguments", at any rate. Because otherwise you're just announcing that you don't have one.
Thanks for chiming in with you homosexual sidebar.
>You should realize that your behavior
You should realize that these gay little interjections just make you look like a sperg
I wonder if you're even capable of realizing you're acting like an NPC. I wonder if some part of you looks in the mirror and thinks "I'm not a person, I'm just a set of low-effort pre-programmed reactions"
Okay now you're clearly the guy from
lmao
Come on now...
What about his response makes him an "NPC"?
Do you even know what that term means?
Do you know why it's used as an insult, or only THAT it is used as an insult.
>Because otherwise you're just announcing that you don't have one.
Yes I should've just intelligently debated his unilateral declaration of "victory" and gay little reaction gif. For fricks sake you're one moronic Black person.
Heard that one before. People only use it once I've utterly demolished them.
He's right and you're an NPC
You've got nothing. It's over.
I win.
>declare victory
>desperately try to get the last word in
>refuse to elaborate or engage in the actual topic of debate
Whatever works for you, anon.
more like
>establish my point
>refute your fallacies
>you continue to cry
Which you are doing right now.
>art has to be assessed through a framework of Christcuck babble and inspire "goodness"
You just have a /misc/brained tradcuck perception of what art is. That explains the entire disconnect.
>muh pol
If it types like a duck and seethes like a duck...
>If it types like a duck and seethes like a duck...
so pic related is you?
Very few human endeavors if any are actually subjective. Whenever people start to do anything some people are going to be objectively better at it than others.
>the complexity of the pieces they can play and their creativity
Complex ≠ inherently good, and is a classic midwit take. Also, how do you measure or quantify 'creativity' objectively?
>they can feel it
Yeah I'm sorry but intuition isn't a reliable predictor of "objectively good" art, and it just makes you look like a fart sniffing gay.
>You don't need to put a mathematical model
Your arguments don't seem more intelligent because you keep bringing up math you absolute spaz
You're the autist here. Well shoot, just grab a guitar anon and start shredding you'll be the next Carlos Santana.
No genuinely. Why are you being an autist? You can't objectively measure the quality of food so the oversalted omlette I cooked might as well be as good as 5 star meal by Ramsay.
>Well shoot, just grab a guitar anon and start shredding you'll be the next Carlos Santana.
Want to try another fallacious analogy while dodging the salient question? Maybe try using a food analogy this time.
>You can't objectively measure the quality of food so the oversalted omlette I cooked might as well be as good as 5 star meal by Ramsay.
Congrats on figuring out food tastes are subjective as well, and eating rotting herring might only be delicious if you're a Norwegian.
Once again, you haven't explained how you measure quality or creativity. Just that you can vaguely "sense it" or that it's related to "complexity" (lmao)
it's entropy. very low entropy carries little information, but so does very high entropy. information is highest somewhere in-between.
You measure artistic quality with "entropy"? You're veering far into the realm of desperate schizobabble now.
You can just admit that you were wrong instead of digging in your heels jsyk
Schizobabble aside,
Art is objective in the big picture, but subjective on the extreme.
You have clusters of talent. Obviously my student film is not as good as Kubrick but when you get to the level of Kubrick and people who are as venerated and accomplished as him like Kurosawa, it becomes a matter of taste.
You just want to feel validated in your media tastes by some sort of the authority. Maybe just unapologetically enjoy the things you like instead of pining for the approval of 'experts' who will confirm your tastes as intelligent, sophisticated, or of high quality.
Nah, I like what I like. One of my favorite films of all time is Kung Fu Hustle.
I don't need no validation. but you definitely need a dose of reality if you think your nephew's painting is just as valid artistically as Caravaggio.
Forget this guy, he has no actual idea what he's talking about. He's here for (You)s and to play the easiest position, the stubborn contrarian.
>but you definitely need a dose of reality if you think your nephew's painting is just as valid artistically as Caravaggio.
You need to actually explain how art is objectively measured for quality instead of hoping this shitty analogy will do all the heavy lifting for you
Yes this is objectively true
Wow what cope
>fell for Bitcoin
>looks up Bitcoin performance
Anon, I...
yeah, I fell for bitcoin and bought Tesla from the profit
based
jeets got to eat
taking work away from them is criminal
>Printing press is a meme. I won’t ever be paying a cent for anything that has printing press generated content. I’ve been lobbying for it to be required to disclosure use of printing press in books.
Low I.Q idiot. Unoriginal thought, empty comparison made by an entity that can't think or reason. Just like the AI, you worship.
AI is not the printing press and you're not Cervantes and you won't write Don Quixote, lol.
>B-bbbbut I am totally an auteur genius just waiting for my chance!!!! The only reason my genius has not been recognize is because I don't have the resources to make art!!! prompting it totally an artform you Luddite bigot!
Oof, the cope is strong.
Based. Luddite starving artists BTFO
I am not even an artist. I don't have an artistic bone in my body but I recognize people that are far more talented than me, AI won't make me as talented as them.
It's obviously you're the one with insecurities, lol, work on yourself.
KEK
seething
>instant (you) generator
based. they can't help themselves
bonus for inevitable Le Printing Press comparisons
You want to know the truth? The REAL FRICKING TRUTH? I'll tell it plebs like you right now:
Draw a Venn diagram. Label the three circles:
>-AI is a game-changing technology that will revolutionize artistic expression
>-AI is a disaster in the making that will cause untold chaos both economic and politically
>-AI is an irrelevant masturbatory toy that doesn't really matter for anything
Now make them all overlap because they're all EQUALLY TRUE.
>AI revolutionize artistic expression
You already lost me.
Damon Packard's doing some cool stuff with it
Ive made a good trailer to go with a book Im re-releasing. Haters gonna hate whilst creators create.
Until the time when ai made books outsell and replace your creation.
Unironically based
Nice.
This is why Cinema and music has been declining for the last 40 years. A lot of idiots that think they can just use tool to simplify their laboura and just make a movie.
Not realizing the degree of intelligence, though, labour, character and life experience required to craft something soulful.
If you are using A.I and C.G you’ve already lost. None of you will ever make something a fraction as good as Kubrick.
Kubrick is dogshit and you're a projecting failure of an artist.
Kubrick is the goat. And all modern artists are failures. The canons of music and cinema have been written and there’s nothing new to add.
Even of there was, millienials and zoomers are idiot loosers and not up to the job, they are so out of touch with reality and the human condition, they will never make anything with soul.
Proofread your shit next time, homosexual.
Truth.
This
The democratisation of things like film making and music via AI tools is a very very bad thing. Most people are morons who should not be able to pollute the public space with their moronation slop
Then you shouldn't have discriminated/gatekept against creative people so hard that the industry became the dogshit that it is now.
Lol projscting failure says what? It's just the opposite, moron. People had to increasingly compromise so much in their vision and it being divided to a thousand different people at astronomical cost with the end results increasingly becoming bloated soulless messes. AI will allow people to bring their vision to life with no compromise. You're living in the past, and the past is where it is. Trying to impose old values and ethos from 25, 30, 40, 50 years ago is an exercise on self-frustration and futility. Perhaps you simply have nothing to say and no vision to create. You lost your job as a key grip, didn't you? Sorry your gravy train got knocked off the tracks. Learn to understand and edit AI code.
>People had to increasingly compromise so much in their vision and it being divided to a thousand different people at astronomical cost with the end results increasingly becoming bloated soulless messes
Kubrick and many other greats had to go through this a 1000x fold and they mog all the new artists.
New easier access, and convenient tools didn't improve filmmaking as an artform, it didn't improve music. Why do you think AI will?
Art cannot be obsessed objectively, so it's moronic to demand that someone describe how art has "improved"
>it can though
No. You're just a culture war ideologue.
1) Stop sucking Kubrick's dick, first off. Guy was great with visuals but his characters were dogshit and his movies unlikeable pretension. 2) AI music is like a year old. It's been growing exponentially. But the topic isn't about AI music, is it? I agree, as a musician, that I'd rather real people make music, mostly because it's an interpretation of a subjective perspective interpreted though music and the physical reality of a biological being living, experiencing, and interpreting that through instruments, lyrics, and vocals is the art form. Why AI for the visual medium is different is because I can record an entire album by myself on a 4-track but I cannot make a movie by myself, until AI can replace the hundred other technical jobs to make it a reality. Also, AI music is creating it itself, while AI photos and potential video interprets the user's specific descriptions. In other words, the creative part of AI is utilizing it as a technical tool. If I needed four people to be continually tuning my guitar, adjusting the lighting, moving the microphone, and directing me to retry each note over and over until it's perfect, I would hail AI music the way I do the potential of AI for film production. Do you get what I'm saying?
I am absolutely convinced that people like you will willingly let themselves be passed over. You are all the same, creating imaginary roadblocks through projection. I don’t even use AI tools beyond simple problem solving, but the most unbearable people are your kind. The ultimate fricking losers. You don’t have an ounce of soul or energy to create something. You can’t even be bothered to use AI tools to make something just for fun. Instead, you’re a pathetic little worm, a gatekeeper fiercely guarding subjects you don’t even engage with. The worst kind of individual.
You complain endlessly about “slop this, slop that”, while creative people will continue to pursue innovation and find new ways to bring ideas to life. You, on the other hand, will continue to rot, forever festering and seething about something as trivial and pathetic as AI tools.
Your ability to consume media is probably a hundred times what it was twenty years ago. You lot consume media nonstop, always watching shit, unable to help yourselves. You expose yourselves to garbage and then get mad when you see it. Reality check, moron. You’re addicted to this shit, and you’re annoyed you’ll have to ‘sift’ through garbage to find gems? Lmao. Think about that for a moment. You lot are fricking losers, right down to the bone.
I don't care. Just show me that you actually care about culture, art, cinema, music, technology and science before making passionate claims about one or all of them.
https://letterboxd.com/peterstanley/list/1001-movies-you-must-see-before-you-die/
What's your percentage?
Remember if you're upset about the endless slop of the last 10 years, forced diversity in Hollywood, reboots, remakes, and the general lack of creativity in every field that humanity is facing.
Stop whining!!!!
>You complain endlessly about “slop this, slop that”, while creative people will continue to pursue innovation and find new ways to bring ideas to life. You, on the other hand, will continue to rot, forever festering and seething
You are seething simply because you're not creative! Madamme Webb is garbage!!!! how dare you!!!! let's see you do better!!
>This is AI gay logic.
Never said that. All I’m saying is you homosexuals hate new media and now that people might be able to pull off their own cinema in the future, it’s icky and stinky…because..it’s easy????? Frick off.
he's had enough!
great post
AI will forever be shit until it becomes actual, real AI and not the meme crap it is now.
ai is just a tool
It held such promise. But due to degenerates from online such as posters here it's now worthless. All beauty gone.
I have an entire channel's worth of game shows waiting in the wings.
I HATE AI IMAGES THE SUBTLE WRONGNESS OF EVERY FRICKING DETAIL BREAKS MY MIND THE MORE YOU LOOK THE WORSE IT GETS IT'S LITERALLY DISTURBING TO THE BRAIN
k
kino
>not a single outie belly button
Yeah, AI sux.
>not a single outie belly button
Phoneposting atm but I'll make sure to post some in the next thread just for you.
How did you do shit like this with Midjourney? It's censored as hell
>mid-journey
Naaaaah brother you need to run your own local AI with its own LORA models. That’s how you make anything you want, but you are limited to the models you have it working on, and blending models together can break your images continuity. It’s all alpha stage imo, until we can have something that gets 4 picture right out of 4 generated
>How did you do shit like this with Midjourney? It's censored as hell
1. That was made with designer
2. MJ currently has extremely lax image filters
As easily as anon produced this video, very shortly we'll be able to produce kino. Hollywood is so dead.
I like how I can turn anon into a shrieking mess simply by posting some pictures.
This does legitimately look like some eurogay show
Big thanks to the Cinemaphile anon who gave me the idea with his captain marvel x xena deepthroat game show.
If you need titles... (also porn titles)
IN TOO DEEP
GAGGERS
MORE THAN A MOUTHFUL
OPEN WIDER
HARDER, DEEPER, FASTER, OATMEAL
CREME DE LA CROTCH
MORE THAN A FOOT, IT'S A LEG
SNAKES AND GAGGERS
PLUG THAT LEAK
For the preggers pics...
PREGGERS
BABY BLOATED
PUMPED & PLUMPED
BABY BUMPED
It does the 1980s Cannon Films aesthetic pretty well.
Taxi Driver, Hara-Kiri, Hidden Fortress, Seven Samurai, The Longest Day, Hellraiser, 8MM, Heat, Blood Diamond, Black Hawk Down, The Thin Red Line
Meant for
actually good picks. surprised someone with a modicum of taste would entertain AI slop.
watch more films hopefully it will cure you but good taste nontheless. I mean thind redline is extremely soulful though I prefer Malick's Days of Heaven.tyd8n
Oh no I’m not then I was just answering your question
So you don't defend AI?
I believe it could be useful for certain aspects of film making in a decade or two, but it should never fully replace any full part of film making.
What do you think of AI generated music, it's already making full fledged tracks? how do you think AI films are gonna pan any differently?
Anyone can make music, doesn’t mean it’s good music. Same with movies.
Has AI generated music (now that's it's fully fledged) added anything to the music industry that's been stagnating for 20 years now?
>fully fledged
Imagine thinking this. We haven't even touched the surface of what AI is capable of
Has AI generated music added nothing of value to music as of now? How do you see it becoming better?
Hard mode: Don't say in ways we can't even imagine, think for yourself.
>How do you see it becoming better
Eventually have the ability to generate an original song thats completely to your liking. That goes for any artistic medium as well.
>that won't mean it's good
No, but just because a song is written by a bunch of israelites working for Interscope and sold to the highest bidder won't mean it's good either. Quality is independent of the "human element"
No
The Thin Red Line is a bad remake of a meh film from the 50's, anyone who likes it is moronic.
Most independent filmmakers will have little use for AI, barring a few experimental artists in the vein of Packard or Korine. "Content Creators" on the other hand will flood the internet with the most disposable nothings you've ever seen. It is amusing though, seeing so many AI-bros unaware that they are becoming the next generation of consumers without even realizing it.
Can someone please post that AI cinegrid of the mustache men. That is some of the most kino looking shit I have ever seen
Found it!
I'm fully committed to Cats of Istanbul
CoI is hopelessly, insufferably, inevitably, transcendentally kino
CATS OF ISTANBUL
A saddened, but generous Turkish man adopts a magical cat. Times are tough, but the magical cat has options and in gratitude, the magical cat undergoes combat trials and slowly grows a cat army. These cats act as a information network at first then a peacekeeper army (tripping enemies on stairs, pushing flowerpots onto the heads of corrupt police, helping old grannies pay their bills and stealing food to help the poorest of poor).
Eventually the helpful man begins to get ahead in life and is a figurehead backed by a secret army of felines whom also desire a safer saner city free of strife for the cat population and the human population. The man himself can make suggestions for improvement of the lives of the people to the cat leader, but isn't in any true level of control except in the affairs of humans.
The piles of glowing cat eyes in shadows depicts what happens to the worst enemies of the feline-human alliance and the bignose Hebrew problem causers. There will be terrifying chases where the mustache man has zero feline backup at first, but as the human-cat alliance begins his evasions from corrupt legal entities gets easier as random cats treat this man as a protected entity and intervene slyly against his pursuers.
This is my best guess on plot according to STUDIO GHIBLI plot layouts and what would make a classical story with moments of obscene implied violence against those whom deserve obscene implied violence.
The quiet underlying sadness and loss of STUDIO GHIBLI films would be yours to fill in, but you could probably hit the human religion angles that cats do not adhere to except for the snack factor on celebration days (yummy food) with cats seeing only the decoration fun and food angles whereas the SMUGGY FACTOR of religion is mocked for causing ill behavior that disfavors cats and humans. You can also toss in Djinns and ghosts of past owners as the supernatural aspect.
This is a lazy yet serviceable frame framework
These look great in isolation but the Art-Style varies too much between several of these individual cels.
>What is style reference
>What is discretion
This is not some insurmountable problem
The pics look good but the sad reality is that if these were real movies they would probably just be slop with boring pacing.
Cats 1
>Human-focused story with cat elements. Cats do not talk but have above average intelligence and provide minor assistance to the protagonist, as well as help him find some vital clues
Cats 2
>Focus group wants more cats. Introduce black cat and make story entirely from his perspective. He still can't talk but interacts and functions with pseudo-human intelligence at times. Human protagonist from first movie is more bumbling and comic relief but falls in love with female companion.
Cats 3
>Focus group says even more cats. Humans don't factor into the plot besides being props for a few jokes. Black cat talks now, all cats talk. Street cat adventure through Athens with frequent humorous allusions and references to popular greek myths and stories
Cats 4
>Different animation studio. Celebrated for its absolutely kickass soundtrack and a few internet memes born from a few stills. Youtubers point out how weird and uncanny it is because the hyperrealistic black cat has a human-like romance with one of the hyperrealistic egyptian cats and it portrays it like she's attractive.
Cats 5
>Return to the old studio. Celebrated for its off-beat and more mature writing, and a minor box office bomb. Frequently posted in "Kino that made you cry" threads on Cinemaphile.
Cats 6
>Ultra-slop beloved by nineties kids and hated by zoomers. Original creators only provided oversight. New voice actors.
Show us some AI made trailer
"No!"
Which film does Zeus show up in?
And which is the one where they go back in time to ancient Egypt?
>And which is the one where they go back in time to ancient Egypt?
The one with the subtitle "back in time"
>if these were real movies they would probably just be slop with boring pacing.
isn't that just up to whoever is using the AI to fix? kinda like how it's up to directors to make those calls in film.
Does Istanbul have a particularly thriving cat scene?
And how do they go back in time?
>Does Istanbul have a particularly thriving cat scene?
Yes, there are cats absolutely everywhere in Istanbul.
There are huge colonies of stray cats that survive because people feed them. It's the City of Cats.
And that lets them travel through time?
Hey look on the bright side. I am sure not caring about art and human talent will not have any consequences, we will keep getting people like Miyazaki and studio Ghibli.
Isn't AI great? who cares about human touch and human talent.
Post some AI videos, not fricking art.
Apparently the Cats of Istanbul heavily inspired the 2016 documentary "Kedi"
>“Kedi” (2016): this documentary film beautifully captures the lives of street cats in Istanbul. Directed by Ceyda Torun, “Kedi” showcases the city’s thousands of street cats, their interactions with people, and the unique bond they share. The film features interviews with locals who care for these cats, revealing their individual stories and personalities
I want to be able to put short stories and novels into an A.I. generator and see its interpretation and can't fricking wait to see the results!!!FACT!!!
Nobody likes AI generated "art". Nobody wants it. It hasn't made any memes, nobody shares it with their friends, many people are actually repulsed by it.
>but just wait, it'll-
No. This isn't a technical limitation. The technology has improved dramatically already, yet still there is something fundamentally boring and soulless about everything it generates. You can't deny this and I see no reason it will change.
The real redpill is that art and culture have been stagnating for the last 20 years.
That's why society is clinging very hard to the cultural icons of the 80s and 90s.
AI is just the final nail in the coffin. AI isn't the problem , it's the symptom.
>the AI-jeets saying that they will somehow take jobs away from LA whites as if AI wouldn't replace them also
>the other AI-jeets trying to fit in by saying "hollywood bad"
>the pro-AI posters larping about "being creative" or "ahead of the curve" as if any of them are smart or creative enough to make a good movie out of an image de-randomizer
>the larpers making shitty posters and talking about them as if they came out "in the good ol days back in the 80s bro (when I was totally alive)" because no one can manage to make a full-length AI-movie within those parameters
these threads are like honeypots for the most pathetic kind of people
"muh AI" (image/text algorithms) will go the way of the NFT
actually useful "AI" (face recognition or espionage technology) will never be legally accessible
Based AI chads making you seethe for free
OpenAi, and maybe a few others, will try to limit how much text to video kinos you can pump out, so maybe a minute per person a day. So we will have to have a collective, a commonality of like minded individuals each working concurrently to produce a short video.
Hopefully Grōk will achieve chatgpt levels of productivity within a year or two.
*chatgpt5
>Based AI chads making you seethe for free
They are seething. Grōk, for around $11 monthly allows chatgpt4 levels of productivity. Within a year or two, and once Grōk achieves chatgpt5 levels of creativity, Musk will charge a few dollars more, maybe around 29.99 monthly, but you'll probably be able to achieve 4 to 5 minutes a day of kinos! If done collectively with other Anons Hollywood is dead!
>They are seething. Grōk, for around $11 monthly allows chatgpt4 levels of productivity. Within a year or two, and once Grōk achieves chatgpt5 levels of creativity, Musk will charge a few dollars more, maybe around 29.99 monthly, but you'll probably be able to achieve 4 to 5 minutes a day of kinos! If done collectively with other Anons Hollywood is dead!
It does and You're probably terrified, aren't you, HollyShat? Your time of incident is bearing!
>Everyone and everything is shitty! Only my lukewarm, middle of the road nihilism and a bloo bloo I want the past to happen again because everything and everyone sucks!
>No, I offer no solutions or alternatives. Uhh, 1001 movies to see before you die! Kubrick! There. Did that do anything?
consumers who are intelligent will always be better than AI "creative" people.
artists > consumers > AI-artists
Lol yes the mindless end consumer, they are truly the creative ones. You seem lost.
AI "Artists" are consumers themselves. Kind of required to even be into it.
Cool baseless opinion.
I don't care though.
Wait for AI images to not be immediately recognizable
What's the best AI video animation tool? I've tried pika and runway.ml
Cause the AI is coming, and the people are aseethin'
Photography killed the Realist movement in painting… but gave birth to Impressionism, Surrealism et al.
Seems like AI tools will be a win/win in the long run.
AI won't add anything to art. AI music is already fully fledged and has added 0 value to music. You're a midwit.
AI is worthless and we are only having such conversation about it because we live in a society of idiots.
Everything is electronically modified and edited in post production using high end software. I’m sure Black folk were saying exactly what you said to. AI will be huge for pitch correction and auto tune without robotic transitions. It’s over.
We already had people that could sing on perfect pitch maybe you should've been paying to attention to actual art, instead of incompetent slop where a machine might be an improvement.
The people who actually care about music will tell you that AI has added 0 value to music.
>The people who actually care about music will tell you that AI has added 0 value to music
This is called "appeal to authority" and is a favorite logical fallacy of progressive gays
lol bro just get over yourself. I can’t wait for a literal basement dwelling Indian to produce something that gets enough attention you have to make threads about it
How do you actually judge whether it's added '0 value' to something anyway?
AI music has come a long way and it's made many people happy, sad, laugh, etc, it has provided the main thing which art was uniquely powerful in providing. Yet you'll continue to say it offers no value because it doesn't have a 'soul' or whatever religious terminology to hide behind
When AI advances beyond human capabilities for art, I wonder if you'll admit to people what you used to think
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I kinda like that an anon made a bot to post anti-AI “””arguments””” because it’s very meta.
Simplest way to do this is to film everything using yourself if you have to then using that as controlnet.
Or you can cut scenes and animations from other works and do the same.
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Notice how it keeps repeating phrases like “value to music”. I’d guess it was a NovelAI character but he might have his own local one running
which ai specifically is that?
>which ai specifically is that?
Midjourney circa late 2022
Hopefully never
i miss old bing AI like you woudnt believe
would you cast a big-name actress?
Can't make anything yet, but soon enough. I'll be making a kino loose adaptation of The Odyssey starring Klaus Kinski and in the style of Werner Herzog.
Enjoy your trash
>AI BAD
I will
>BUT IT'S LE SOOOOOOOUUUUUUULLLESSSSSS!!!
When did this become a valid argument?
How do you quantify that? What makes something "soulless" or not, specifically? You can always tell the difference? Lol, no you can't. And if you'd actully put your money where your mouth is we could prove how full of shit you are by testing it.
It's literally just a re-worded statement of your opinion. "Soulless" just means "I don't like it" (and specifically based on you knowing its origins, not what it actually looks like). It's a completely worthless "argument".
The irony is that the vast majority of homosexuals using this non-argument literally don't even believe that "souls" exist.
>How do you quantify that?
You're soulless. I can just tell!
I was almost going to type out a serious reasoned reply and then I realized replying to a dipshit that willingly saves and posts söyjaks is every bit as sensible as arguing with chatgpt.
"AI art is bad because it is LE SOULESS!!!" is EXACTLY the kind of non-argument that anti-AI luddite Redditor soi-chuggers make though.
You won't counter my argument and explain why "....it is....LE SOULESS!!!" is supposedly a GOOD argument because you can't. That's why.
If you want to be treated like a human being, type like a human being. I'm not going to waste time when you're more buzzword than man; this does nothing to lend credibility to your side of a debate.
Which parts were "buzzwords"?
Do you know what a "buzzword" is?
You know it takes more than just saying "LE BUZZWORD!" and declaring victory to win an argument, right?
Speaking of which i'm still waiting for you to actually articulate why & how
>BUT IT'S LE SOOOOOOOUUUUUUULLLESSSSSS!!!
is a tenable, valid argument and nor just a meaningless statement of personal opinion.
You CLAIMED you could do it. Still waiting.
>he's already to the point of all-caps greentexting
lmao an AI wouldn't break this easily
>STILL no actual argument
Look, if you don't have one there's no shame in admitting it. But you need to quit doubling-down like this. It's not saving face; it's making you look worse.
I'll be honest, I didn't really read your post and just noticed the
>ALL-CAPS GREEEEEENTEEEEEXXXXXXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but now I see that we are in agreement about AI becoming more important to creating images and videos in the days to come.
I accept your concession.
"IT IS LE SOULLESS!!!" is a stupid & meaningless argument, like all histrionic anti-AI arguments.
But its still true. Ai is literally soulless.
What are you talking about AI is nothing but reddit. Its the kind of transhumanist technology shit they love to go gaga for. "Oh my gosh Elon Musk!!! Oh my gosh VR!!! Oh my gosh AI!!!. The final stage of consuming is consuming ai generated shit.
>OMG have you seen "Motor-Vehicles"??? What a Reddit" technology! *guffaw*
Are you fricking stupid?
AI is a MASSIVE umbrella of technology with incredible potential behind it. And you just dismiss the entire thing as "Reddit"? Holy shit you people are living caricatures.
another strawman
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I call him ValueBot. I got it to sometimes say ‘zero’ and sometimes say ‘0’. Now I just need a bot to argue with him and we’re set.
Just generated this kino.
AI was a super exciting toy for a while and I proompted literally thousands of images and then I got completely tired of it and find it a pointless hollow pursuit.
>b-but when it can do kinos....
Doubt. Nothing it creates has any lasting impact because you know from the outset that not only is it arbitrary but that it can be generated and regenerated infinite times with no conceivable way to discriminate as to what the idealized result "should" be. We're not prepared to deal with this, it literally runs counter to how we perceive objective reality. You're not going to create a Blade Runner (1982) with AI. You're going to create 500 different randomized jumbled dicerolls of films that have all those same elements but none of which have any impact or way to establish an emotional connection to anyone perceiving them because there is no emotional investment made in their creation. It's a toy of the idle.
Tick Tock, HollyShat! I remember them, those of the tribe, claiming that users of bitcoin would never engage in group mining so there was nothing to worry about!
Your time of incident is bearing, HollyShat!
chatgpt post
Try again, HollyShat! It must frighten you realizing the good times for you and yours, frivolously wasting of investors money, is at an end! Kinos, those free of the message and other such woke ideologies, is in the hands of the so called plebbians.
>You're not going to create a Blade Runner (1982) with AI. You're going to create 500 different randomized jumbled dicerolls of films that have all those same elements
I'm currently using an AI with inpainting to create dozens of character models all in an identical art style. I didn't even need to make a lora for it. I just had to make one character model and then the AI copies that style for the next character. A year ago this would have been impossible and now it does it almost flawlessly every time.
I have the idea. The tools aren't here yet. But I think some sort of "enhanced storyboard" (more or less a Visual Novel) is doable. When I am done with my VN (traditional VN) I will probably attempt to develop the concept probably next year. In the meantime there's time for better open models to arrive.
Anyone who is down bad enough to actually consume AI generated media is a literal goyim simple as.
Anyone who sees conversations like these inspire nothing but absolute tribal bickering and complete inability to connect on any sort of rational wavelength for even the tiniest subtopic, with each side insisting solely on the religious truth of its own viewpoint for a complex multifaceted issue of which no one here can dare feasibly claim anything approaching understanding the totality, and doesn't immediately take ten steps back and try to look at the larger picture, is unlikely to ever escape intellectual serfdom.
>t.
It's true though. You surely don't deny that the beliefs express here are all entirely religious in nature. Or, at the risk of using the more loaded term, culty, because a religion is generally a belief system that is allowed to be said to have established some amount of cultural credibility for itself.
>It's true though.
Why do you wish to be unintelligent?
You're talking like a fedora atheist. Exactly the type of person I expect to consume AI slop
In what possible way did you arrive to that conclusion?
Repeat that question for each part of your post, as they're two completely separate yet equally bizarre statements.
It might astound you to realize that simply using the word "religion" in a sentence is not the same as criticizing religion as an actuality, and describing an idea as religious is making a very specific rhetorical statement.
The luddites are in a sort if religious fervor about AI, I don't see how you can LE BOTH SIDES this, the "other side" seems pretty realistic
I don't know about the other anons here but I was against AI generation since the start. No one implanted that idea in my head I came to it on my own.
>has a wife and like 3 or 4 kids, got Cinemaphile, runs his own successful business
we should all be so lucky
>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR I HAVE PROOMPTED THE SLOP I AM THE CREATIVE SAAR I WILL DO THE NEEDFUL AND FREE THE KINOS FROM THE WOKESES SAAR
Why does it always look so uncanny.
for me myself personally, it's boat 3
>Weapons of Mast Destruction
So far it seems A.I has been pretty sucessful at impressing the uncultured laymen, the philistines, the anime fans…etc. But when does it start making actually good stuff? When does it make music so good, so innovative, that we have to classify it with the likes of Bjork and Pink Floyd? When does it make novels or even short stories with such thematic depth and elegant prose that we put it next to the likes of Dostoevsky and Cormac Mccarthy? Will A.I ever be capable of originality or will it always be doomed to the role of the cheap imitator? Countless people have existed throughout history that could make near perfect forgeries of the works of the masters but most of their names were forgotten to history because they had no originality.
looks like slop
I'll give you a hint. Never. It would require imagination which is something only a living sapient can possess.
>AI can't do hands
>responds with a strawman
predictable
If AI couldn't do hands but now AI can do hands, why do you feel (note; feel, not think) that AI will never be able to produce an original work?
*heats up popcorn*
I don't care about it doing hands wasn't my argument. I never brought it up that was you.
That's not a "Strawman".
Do you know what a "Strawman Argument" ACTUALLY is or are you just repeating words you've heard other people use?
"Definition of a strawman: a misrepresentation of an opponent's argument or position". Are you sure you know what it is. Don't act smart if your going to be dumb.
The post you responded to was not an example of a "Strawman".
AI doesn't need Imagination. The person using the AI does that part.
Snooty little dumbass.
Exactly my point. Snooty little moron. That's what I was responding to dumbass.
>When does it make music so good
>When does it make novels or even short stories
>Will A.I ever be capable of originality
Why are you inserting yourself into the conversation if your not following it lol moron.
As a toy, it's created images of characters I've had in my head for years that please me greatly because I chose a career path other than 2D artist and AI exceeds my level of competence for rendering those characters into images, though no without a significant number of elements outside my control. Nonetheless it's been both entertaining and potentially useful should I decide to use some of those generated concepts to then hire a human artist to reproduce them consistently for some project.
I would say storyboarding and conceptualization are probably its greatest strengths, and proper leveraging of generated content into human-constructed art will be the way going forward, essentially replacing outside research and reference material gathering stages of creation. Which is not without its potential problems, which should be self-evident. The steady decline of both American and Japanese animation industries is testament to that, as cultured, worldly creators accustomed to injecting their wide arrays of life experience into their work are progressively replaced with young people who simply want to recreate the cartoons they grew up watching and have no inspiration beyond it.
This was AI 2 years ago
The AI YOU had access to, heh.
This was train 40 years ago
The train YOU had access to, heh.
I love when an anon gets stung by a single phrase so bad he lashes out and starts spamming it constantly try and "get back" at his invisible aggressor lmao
kino
This was economy-class air travel 50 years ago.
It astound me at the Redditors utter and complete inability to comprehend sigmoid curves.
I'd say chatgpt post but even chatgpt can construct something resembling a coherent english sentence.
Not a single Black person in sight.
the economy-class YOU had access to.
SOVL
That was still fun to play with even back then.